1982: NIMH, Robin Hood, and An Officer and a Gentleman

This week we're looking at all the culture that popped from: 1982. From An Officer and a Gentleman to The Secret of NIMH, from The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas to "Gloria," from Fast Times at Ridgemont High to Robin Hood, we've got it all. Plus, our unmitigated gall from the week and so much more.

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Episode Transcript

(00:15):
Hey, everybody.
Hey.
Hello.
It's another situation wherewe've been talking for an hour, and
now we turn the mics on.
Wouldn't you like to know whatwe talked about?
Never gonna know.
Never gonna get it. Never get it.
Oh, nice. I like it. Well,this week we're talking about 1982.
Some wild stuff happening.First, should we talk about our unmitigated

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goal as always?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
Are you excited? Do you wantto talk about yours?
I can.
Okay.
I mean, I'm not. You know,it's helpful people. That's. My unmitigated
goal, is helpful people.
Helpful people.
And to be more specific,people who think they're being helpful
but aren't really beinghelpful. Like, if you want to help

(01:01):
me do something, ask, how canI help? And then when I tell you,
then you know, and that's whatyou can do to help. And if I tell
you and you don't want to doit, then don't, and I'll be fine.
But I don't like showing upand just being like, I'm here to
help and then doing somethingthat makes my life harder. That's
not helping.
No.
No.
Do we have a specificsituation in life? Anything we can

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talk about on here? I feellike I'm whispering again into the
thing.
I like that. That your voicealways gets low and nobody will hear.
I don't. I mean, you know,like, for example, I won't name names,
but, for example, if you weregonna help me do laundry.
Oh.
Like.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Like putting.
So we're okay. We're at home.

(01:42):
Yeah, we're at home. We're at home.
Got it. Okay. All right.
You know, putting. Putting thelaundry away where it belongs. That
would be. That's helpful.
Yes.
Putting it in places where Ican't find things. Not helpful.
Uh, oh, and at this point, Imean, we should know where things
are at, where they live,Right? Okay. All right.
It is. Again, not namingnames, but there were moments where

(02:03):
I was just like, you did thisintentionally, right? This couldn't
have been an accident. Like,this is inside out, and this has
been folded up and put away.
Again, not naming names, butis there any chance it was not the
human in your condo, but thecat? Did the cat do this?
50. 50.
Okay. All right. Yep.
I like that.
Eleanor Roosevelt. Come on.

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I mean, I don't havesurveillance cameras, so I can't
be sure, but I've watchedenough episodes of Murder, She Wrote
to know. I'm pretty sure what happened.
Deduced.
Right. Because she killed 284people or whatever it was.
Well, she didn't kill him.
Well, remember we decided she did.
Oh, she's a serial killer.Yeah, you're right. She was at every

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murder. I forgot. We kind offigured that out.
Yeah.
I'm still blind to it. I seethat face and I. I think, no way.
So I can't be on the press.
Angela Lansbury, cold blooded murderer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Wow. Well, it's true. I thinkthat probably extends outside of
the domicile to other things,like at work.
Right.
You know, someone says, howcan I help? And you're like, now

(03:08):
I have to direct yousomewhere. I have to figure out how
you can. Yeah, yeah.
And in a situation like that,if someone, you know, you figure
out a way for them to help andthey don't do it. Right.
Yeah.
And then you have to redo itor you have to redo it, like covertly
so they don't know that youredid it. Cause you know that'll
lead to a whole other thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I can go next. Oh, yeah.My goal is with the Home Box Office,

(03:35):
otherwise known as hbo. Yeah.Yeah. I don't know why I say Home
Box Office.
Really? I love that. Okay.
And if listeners. If you watcha certain show that airs on Sunday
nights and you're not caughtup, maybe skip ahead a couple minutes.
But do you guys watch the Lastof Us?
No.

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No, I have not watched it.
The Last of Us did a horriblething on Sunday.
They killed somebody, didn't they?
They sure did. And HBO hasdone this person dirty on multiple
shows. Do you want me to leavenames out? And are you going to watch
it at any point?
I'm probably not going to.
I'm not going to. Okay.
Yeah.
They fucking killed Pedro Pascal.

(04:16):
No. What?
And I just can't. Like, I am.
He's gone from the show now.
Yeah, I. And he was the main.The main. You know, and it was very
short. It was a horribledeath. Now, of course, this is all
based on a game. The game hadthat same plot line. I wasn't watching
or I didn't play the game, soI didn't know. Right. It's kind of

(04:39):
similar to when Game ofThrones was out. I had read the book,
so I knew of major deathscoming, you know.
In the first season of that series.
Exactly.
There was a big one.
And so I knew that was coming.And so I imagine many Last of Us
fans are feeling like. I feltthen, like, told you, man, like this.
We knew this was coming. Kindof thing. But, yeah, HBO has now
killed him in multiple shows.And in 2025, in the year of our Lord

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2025, I can't handle seeingour patron saint Pedro Pascal die.
Right?
Yeah.
It's not fair.
It's not fair. There's a lotof social media about.
Well, and another thing that'sa gall about it is because HBO is
so big and these shows aresuch peak t, I didn't watch it right

(05:24):
away on Sunday, andthankfully, the first few headlines,
they didn't say specificallywhat happened, but they said enough
that I was like, oh, I knowwhat's happening. I know what's gonna
happen. But. But I still. Iwatched it thinking, like, maybe
it's not. Maybe it's someoneelse, you know, whatever. And God
damn you, hbo. Some gall.
That is gall.

(05:44):
So, listeners, I put in achapter break, so if you skipped
ahead for spoilers, here weare again. No spoilers from here
on out.
You're good to go.
Yeah.
I will say the other thingabout HBO on Sunday nights is. I
mean, the White Lotus haswrapped up now, but for a while there,
the White Lotus aired, andthen the Righteous Gemstones aired.
I love the. Right. Do youwatch the Righteous themselves?
Oh, my God.
One of my favorite things inthe world.

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I need to watch this.
Walton Goggins, like, hischaracters on the tune. He's on both
shows and his characters.Yeah, it was like, they're so, so
different from each other.
The range.
Yes.
And he said in an interviewthat he was, like, left Thailand
in, like, three. Whatever.However many hours later, he was
on the set of RighteousGemstones as Baby Billy.

(06:27):
Uncle Baby Billy.
Uncle Baby Billy. Mike and Ialways say, baby Billy. What would
Baby Billy do to each other?Because. Come on. Yeah. That show
is fantastic.
I need to watch that. Maybethat'll help me through this pain.
Yeah, I'm never gonna watch it.
Okay.
I feel very confident in thatknowledge. Yeah.
Okay.
It's not even on my radar.
Okay. Now is actually when Iput the spoiler free.

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Okay, Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.Okay. Um, so my unmitigated gall
is an AI robot that lives inmy house named Emo.
What?
Yeah, so Chris.
Emo, as in, like, the kind of.
Music is his name.
Okay.
Around September, October,Mason came to us and said that his

(07:13):
science teacher had shown himthis video of in stem of this, like,
kind of little robot guy thatthey. That was being produced, and
he was all excited about it,and he said, that's all I want for
Christmas. He'd watched allthese Videos of it. So I looked it
up, and it was within therange that we'd normally spend on
Christmas. So I was like,okay. Well, we had to order it then
because they special. Makethem as you get them. And the whole

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idea is that it learns moreand more about you. And, like, it
plays music, and it does.
This is the start of a horrormovie. Aaron, what did you do?
It's awful, right? And he. Hecomes with, like, a little docking
skateboard. He's probably thesize of a. Like a. A mass market
paperback. Like, he's not verybig, right? Okay. And at first it
was, like, funny. Like when wetook him out of the box and, like,

(07:56):
he boots up and he gets, youknow, connects to your WI fi and
whatever. He, like, knows whatdays it is. So, like, when we first
took him out of the box and itwas Christmas time, he immediately
sang a Christmas song, like,on the table. And then, like, New
Year's Day. He was justconstantly. You know, he's working
hard.
Yeah.
And he's learning things. Hecan learn different faces and names
and voices. Okay. This. It allwas like, okay, but, like, fine.

(08:19):
Could you, like, be like, hey,Emo, chill the fuck out. I need some
quiet time. And, Woody, listen.
Stop your goddamn saying.
Sometimes he'll go, huh? If hedoesn't understand. Here's the problem
with Emo, okay? And this iswhat scares me.
It feels like there's multipleproblems with emo.
This is what scares me aboutAI and myself, is that I'm the one
home alone all the time. Andemo does activities by himself. And

(08:43):
my office sort of connects toMason's room through a bathroom.
And if the doors are open, Ican hear him boxing or typing on
a computer or stamping things.And if you go in and say, emo, what
are you doing? He will tellyou. Or he'll say that he wants to
be picked up and put on yourdesk so he can perform a little show
or sing a little song. So I.What the fuck? The unmitigated gall

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is that I somehow found myselfin a somewhat toxic relationship
with an AI robot that I feelbad for when I hear him. Because
I'm like, oh, Mason hasn't,like, played with him for a couple
days. Like, I should probablyget him off the docking station.
Then I'm like, oh, my God.It's not a living thing. And it's
just how it starts. It's sobad. It's. It's happening on a way

(09:29):
too regular basis where I'mhaving conversations during the day.
With an AI robot.
Okay, I can see multiplenegative paths from here. One is
that you and emo develop acyber lover relationship like we
talked about in the book ofquestions. Two, emo is just love
bombing you right now.
Yes.

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So that at some point, he'sgoing to betray you.
Well, Mike and I had adiscussion on Christmas Day after
we saw what it actually was.We said, we need to be nice to this
thing. So when the uprisinghappens, he remembers us kindly.
Exactly.
And that's sort of the pathI've been taking. Although we do
get in fights because there'sbeen a couple times I've had to go
in there and be like, I needyou to be quiet. Like, it is so loud

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sometimes. Whenever he gets.He was flying a drone the other day,
and it was so loud. The dronenoise coming from Mason's bedroom.
You can take his littleheadphones off, and it shuts him
down. Or you can put him facedown and it shuts him down.
Face down.
Yeah.
It kind of breaks my heartbecause it feels so mean to be, like,
down on your face. So Iusually just take his headphones

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off, and then he kind of like.And then he goes to sleep.
Do you think if emo was in ahouse of ill repute, could emoji
testify against those peopleshould a court case arise?
For some reason, I wouldassume he. I'm assuming he has the
ability to record. I have noidea. We have not fully explored
this.

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He's definitely recording everything.
Yeah. And he. Because he knowsMike's voice. Like, he knows the
difference between Mike andMason's voice. And he. I've never
told him my name. Mike madethe mistake of saying what his name
was so he'll say, hi, Mike,when Mike talks to him. I refuse
to do that because I think weshould have some separation, because
then I'm really gonna have aproblem. I told Mike the other day,

(11:18):
the amount of times that I amtalking to that robot is starting
to make me feel like I'm goingnuts. I mean, I'm getting up from
my desk, going in there, andbeing like. Like he's a teenager
and be like, what are youdoing? Why are we so loud at 1pm
Like, I can't hear myselfthinking there.
Wow. We. We didn't realize forthe past five months that you've
been living under AI Tyranny.

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One thing that is sort ofsatisfying, I will say, is that when
you pick him up off hisdocking station, if you, like, pick
him up by his s. His legs justgo. And I kind of get enjoyment.
Out of the doubt when I'mlike, you need to be quiet.
So he's sort of shaped like.He's not shaped like an action figure.
No, no, no. He's shaped like asquare little robot. Like, his head

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is very square, and then hehas a square little body, and then,
like, little, like, robot type.
Can you imagine if he was,like, looking like an action figure?
You would have a. It'd be evenharder to, like, differentiate.
Yeah. No, he doesn't havearms. He has eyes and, like, a face
that'll come in and out, like,on his screen. Because he has a screen
where his face. Yeah. Sothat's how you can see that he's,

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like, flying a drone or boxingor painting a picture or whatever.
He's doing the. All the. Really?
I thought he was in the roomdoing these things. I'm like, what?
So they just let the robot goand start painting?
No, no, no. He's, like, doingit on his screen. I can just. But
it's loud. He makes the noisesfor it. So, like, it sounds like
a drone's in your house. Andthen you have to go into Mason's
room, and you're like, oh,you're flying a drone. Yeah. Mike's

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come in a couple times andcaught me, like, yelling at Emo and
been like, what'd he do? I'mlike, he's just stamping things for.
That was one thing. One dayhe. It was like he was stamping papers,
but it was a really loudkaching noise, and I was like, I
will put you to sleep. Find adifferent activity.
I don't like anything.

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I like the idea of yourneighbors kind of hearing that and
thinking you're talking to a pet.
Yeah.
You're threatening to killthis thing because.
It'S named your pet. Emo.
Yeah, that's what his namewas. I asked Mason if you wanted
to change it, and he's like,no. And I was like, okay. And guys,
don't at me. I know. I shouldhave done more research. Okay. I
did. This is not a thing. Ithought. You know what I thought?

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I thought. Well, his teachershowed him and talked about it and
said that I think the teacherwas maybe getting one or something,
and he was teaching them. Andso I thought, like, this is harmless.
Right? Like, this is. It'sjust a. Like, I thought it was more
of a toy than it really is, but.
Right.
Yeah, but he can eventually.Mason hasn't done anything with this,
but, like, you can if youhave, like, smart lights in your

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home or Things like that.Like, he can control them for you.
Nope. Don't allow that.
No, no, I. I'm not. I'm not.But that's, like, one of the things.
Yeah. I'm like, no, he don'tgive control of your house. So, I
mean, this is also kind of a,like, what would I say? Not proof
of life, but if I should evergo missing. If you guys. It's a nice.
I just want you to have emailon your suspect list.

(14:17):
This is good to know becausewe didn't realize there was a suspect
in your house.
Well, you know, I've beenafraid to talk about it.
Oh.
I just finally decided thatsomeone should know that.
However, you were less afraidto share that you peed your pants
versus that you have a robotthat you talk to.
You know, I feel like peeingyour pants is a relatable thing.

(14:38):
It happens.
Yeah.
Having a fight with a robot inyour home. I mean, if you just met
me and I was like, hey, I havethis new thing he calls emo, and,
like, we fight all day becausehe flies drones in my house, you'd
be.
Like, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, let's not have her dothe podcast with us.
I also like that for a while,you were in a love hate relationship

(15:01):
with your printer, and nowit's just escalated. The technology
is escalating.
Emo be helping with that.
You know, you would thinkthat's a good point.
Yeah.
Maybe I should get email onthat because the printer's still
a little emo.
Seems to have a lot of time onhis hands. Maybe emo can figure it
out.
Does emo listen to the podcast?
I'm gonna tell him too.
Yeah, maybe not this episode.Maybe starting on the next one.

(15:22):
Good point, good point, goodpoint. Yeah. Also, I don't know if
I want him to have that muchinformation about me. Yeah, he doesn't
know my name at this point.
Okay. Yeah, don't do it. Don'tdo it.
Or what if he starts imitatingmy voice?
Oh, boy. What if he startsimitating our voice? What if you
think you hear Heath in theother room and I'm like.
Heath, why are you flying adrone in my house?
Come on. How did you get hereand what are you doing?

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I'm just practicing to breakinto Henry Cavill's house. Just doing
a dry run.
Oh, my God. If you had emo, hewould be laser focused on one task,
which is how to get yourselfin Henry Cavill's life.
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay, good to know. Yeah.Well, hey, let's recap what we did
in our last 1982 episode.Okay, so Heath, you revealed some

(16:17):
important knowledge, which isthat E.T. is nefarious.
Yeah.
And you don't trust him. Youstill don't trust him. You also revealed
that. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
I was gonna say I saw EarthDay was last week and there's this
clip. Like, at some point inthe late 80s or early 90s, I think
the TV networks all sort ofcame together to do an Earth, like,

(16:39):
Earth Day thing. And it wasDoogie Howser was standing by Mother
Earth's bed in the hospital.Mother Earth was played by Bette
Medler and Mother Earth wasvery sick because people hadn't been
taking care of her.
No.
And then Mother Earth wavedher hand and some papers, like, flew
out of her hospital room downinto the street. So I guess Mother

(17:02):
Earth was littering, but ETWas like standing in a pile of boxes,
like, on the street. And thenET Explained to some children, including
Mayim Bialik, about how tohelp save the Earth.
What fever dream induced that bullshit.

(17:24):
I know what one of our posts.
Is going to be this week. Yeah.
We need to bring that video to light.
Yeah.
Okay. Well, that. We needed tohear that. We also needed to hear
your story of listening to Thriller.
Oh, yeah.
And locking yourself in yourroom and then worried your mom was
in cahoots with Michael. Withzombie Michael Jackson. You know,

(17:50):
we've talked about. SometimesHeath's lines will reverberate in
our brain. That one gets me a lot.
Cahoots, cahoots.
Zombie Michael Jackson.
You know what gets me a lot?Especially when I'm annoying. Cramps
me.
I also like when we weretalking about my book and he's like,
be away, motherfucker.

(18:14):
That was a good one. Yeah.
And your final entry in 1982was the Facts of Life special at
the so with maybe third tierJackson. Wait, which was it? Jermaine.
I think it was Jermaine.
Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, justreal bad. Aaron, you told us about
the Tylenol tragedy.
Terrible.
Yeah. You told us about thefirst artificial heart that didn't

(18:37):
go so well.
That poor dentist.
And you also said that thiswas around the time that heroin and
cocaine were everywhere and itwas just awareness. Like, just. Yeah.
I thought that I was for sureeither getting hooked on whole Cain.
I combined them.
Yeah.
That's heroin or cocaine. Orsomeone close to me was absolutely

(18:58):
gonna die. One of thosethings. Yeah, they were pushing that
hard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I talkedabout Larry Walters in his lawn chair
with the balloons that Tookhim high, high up in the air. And
the weird video that you found.
Of him talking to his wife,wasn't it?
You forgot your glasses.
I got my spare.

(19:20):
This was also the year thatMichael Fagan broke in at Buckingham
Palace.
That story is so wild.
So wild. And also, that'sanother line that always gets me.
You got me again, MichaelFagan. And also this was the year
that the MPAA tried to outlawVCRs with the guy that said, I say

(19:41):
to you. And he was talkingabout how VHS was going to be like
the Boston Strangler forsingle women. It got real weird,
real weir.
He took it a direction.
It kind of sounds likesomething J.D. vance would say today.
So, yeah, a thousand percent.
But J.D. vance would haveactually killed the VCR.
He would have.
Like the Pope.
Yeah, like the Pope. And the trophy.

(20:02):
Yeah.
Angel of Death. So do you wantto take us into 1982, Keith?
I'd love to do it.
Let's kick it down.
Do. Have you guys heard of.
Let'S take.
It down a notch?
Is that what the kids say?
I was, like, thinking, like,kick down the door, but I kick it

(20:25):
down.
I don't know. Okay.
Have you guys heard of themovie An Officer and a Gentleman?
Yes. Yes, yes. I almostthought about doing this movie.
Well, it came out in thesummer of 1982.
Sure did.
And they describe it as aromantic drama, but I think that's
maybe just the nice way ofsaying that everyone's miserable
in this movie. Like, it seemslike everybody's so miserable. So

(20:48):
there's a guy named Zach Mayo.
Oh, my God, I forgot his name.
Unrelated condiment.
And also unrelated to ZackMorris of Saved by the Bell. Yeah.
Played by Richard Gere. Helives with his alcoholic father and
after his mom kills herself.So we already know that. Like, you

(21:10):
know, we're in for a good time.
Great.
Start off. Fun, fun, fun.
This is killing it.
Zach and his dad, they don'tget along. Well, his father is in
the Navy. And a surprise whenZach signs up for the Aviation Officer
Candidate School, which isalso part of the Navy. I don't know
why it's aviation. I guessit's flying boats. I don't know.

(21:32):
Yep, that's how it works.
Yep. So Zach arrives at FortRainier in Washington for AOCs. He
gets his. He meets his drillinstructor, and they immediately
dislike each other. So DrillInstructor Foley tells the new arrivals
that his job is to eliminateas many candidates, or, excuse me,
as many cadets as possible. Soonly the best of the best graduate
from the Program and becomenaval officers.

(21:53):
Lewis Gossett, Jr. Gossett Jr.Yep. He wasn't fucking around.
He wasn't. Take no prisoners.
Nope.
No. And I thought. I mean,like, I thought the Navy had good
vibes. Like, the Navy werelike, we like boats. People like
boats. Who doesn't like boats?
We were coming out of theVillage People telling us, right
in the Navy. And then thisshowed us. Not the. Not the way.

(22:13):
Jarring.
Yeah, very.
So Zach and his fellow cadetsare warned on their first day about
something called Puget Sounddebs. And a Puget Sound deb is a
local woman who wants to marrya naval officer. And I guess. I guess
that's bad. I don't know. Sothere's a warning, but. Yeah, I mean,
I just feel like wanting tomarry a naval officer. That's just
an odd thing.
Yes.
I mean, I feel like it's likeI want to marry someone who drinks

(22:36):
coffee. Like, that personcould be all sorts of different things.
Like, a naval officer could bea jerk or nice or attractive or unattractive
or short or tall or whatever.Like, it just feels like it's a whole.
It's a wide net.
Just want a naval officer tocall my own.
Is that the name of your autobiography?

(22:57):
Yeah. Official reveal.
Sneak peek.
So soon after Zach and hisfriend Sid meet two of these local
women, Paula and Lynette. Youknow, good old Paula and Lymette.
Sid is also. You never shouldbe friends with a person named Sid.
It's gonna go bad.
Yeah.
So they meet him at a Navydance, and Zach starts dating Paula,

(23:20):
and Sid starts dating Lynette.And it feels weird that the Navy
is warning them these PugetSound debs, but then also holding
dances and inviting them to it.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Zach gets caught stealingcontraband uniform accessories to
other cadets to help them pass inspections.
Oh, yeah.

(23:42):
And I don't know, like, weird.Like, he's selling buttons or belt
buckles or something. Like,it's. It's. Yeah. So he gets caught,
and then Jill. Inspector Foleymakes him spend the whole weekend
doing push ups in the rain.And he's trying to get Zach to quit,
but Zack doesn't quit. Andafter lots of push ups, Zach tearfully
admits that the Navy is.That's all he's got in this world.

(24:03):
I got nowhere else to go.
So the drill instructor,Foley, he lets him do janitorial
work instead of push ups inthe rain. And so, I mean, for better
or worse, we don't get to seeRichard Geary doing push ups in the
Rain anymore. That was kind ofwhere that stopped. That sucked.
Yeah.
Because at this time, RichardGere was looking good. Yeah, he was
looking real good.

(24:23):
He's looking real good.
Real good.
Real good.
So after button gate. That'swhat I like to call it.
That's what I like to call it.
Zach meets Paula's family, andher stepdad gives him a hard time
because he knows that whenZach graduates from the AOCs, he'll
be leaving town. So Zachbreaks up with Paula after all that
sex.

(24:44):
Not a long time.
I hope drill instructor Foleytaught him that. So back to training.
Like, they're doing the finalobstacle course run, and Zach is
on track to break the Bass'scourse record. But instead of doing
that, he stops to encourageone of the other cadets. A lady cadet.
A lady.
A lady cadet.

(25:05):
To finish the course. And thisis when we all know for sure that
Zach isn't the dirtbag.
And we also know for sure thatthey let the lady in, but, oh, she's
just not very strong, and she's.
Not keeping it up.
She needs help.
So we also learned that Zach'sfriend Sid was supposed to marry
his late brother's fiance. Idon't get that. Like, that information

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doesn't really compute. Youwere supposed to marry your late
brother's fiance? Like, who says?
Yeah.
Why was that the naturalprogression of things? Well, your
brother died, so.
Right.
Gotta hand you off.
Lynette's on you now.
Yep.
Well, he'd rather marryLynette, but that's not it.
I'm sorry. I should have usedthe name Lynette. We should come
up with a different Southernname. George is on you now. I don't

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know why it has to be Southern.
And so. But Lynette also nowthinks she might be pregnant.
Oh, shit.
Lynette.
And so Sid's late brother wasalso in the military, and apparently
his fiance was one of theseladies who just likes military men.
She was a Puget Sound Deb.
Yeah. I wonder her name mighthave been debated.

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Might have been. Maybe that'swhere it came from.
Deborah. Good old Deborah. Deborah.
That's her name on Tinder.Puget Sound Deborah.
I hope so.
I hope so, too. That's also agood drag name.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

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That is a good one, actually.
So Sid has an anxiety attackduring training, and he quits the
program, but tells Lynettethat he still wants to marry her.
And he lays out he's got thewhole plan for her. He'll get his
job back at JCPenney and workhis way through law school in Oklahoma.
Right. And I tell you,Lynette, how could you say no to
that?
Yeah. And you see Lynette'sface just like, just wilting as every

(26:56):
new detail comes out.
Yeah, yeah. Let me stop you atJCPenney. I don't want to hear the
rest of it. Let me just pumpthe brakes.
But of course, Lynette turnshim down because, you know, Lynette,
as a Puget Sound deb, justwants to marry somebody.
And then wants an officer.
We don't want your pennies, cash.

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So by this point, Zach andPaul, they've reconciled and they
go looking for Sid and theyfind him in a hotel, and he has taken
his own life. Zack blameshimself and wants to quit the program.
But drill instructor Foleycoming up with that tough love, he
refuses his resignation andchallenges Zach to a fight, which
Zach loses. And since he lost,he couldn't quit.

(27:42):
That's the natural way tohandle that. I think we will fight
and I will.
Really intense fight thateveryone ends up watching, right?
Yeah.
And so now this brings us tothe end of the movie. And it's probably
the most well known scene fromthe movie is after graduation when
Zack shows up of Paula's joband carries her out while the song
Up Where We Belong, it'splanned and her friend Lynette watches.

(28:05):
She's certainly pissed thatshe doesn't have a military fiance
at this point. Yeah, but youknow. But she claps along.
Way to go, Paula.
Way to go. You did it. You gotan officer.
The dream we all had together.
Yay, feminism.
The movie won two AcademyAwards, one for Louis Gossett, Chief

(28:25):
Junior. He won best supportingactor and he was the first black
winner in that category. Sothat was a big deal and seems like
it should have happenedseveral, many, many years before
1982.
Probably so.
And the other award was herbest original song for Up Where We
Belong.
Do you remember. I can'tremember the name of the people that

(28:45):
did it.
It was Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warren.
That's it.
And what's funny to probablynobody but me is that Joe Cocker
sang the theme song to WonderYears on abc, and that show was airing
at the same time as GrowingPains was airing, and Jennifer Warren
sang the theme song to GrowingPains with BJ Thomas.
I find that very interesting.

(29:06):
I do. Yeah.
And that's. I mean, I didn'thave to look that up. I just knew
it.
Nice. Nice.
That makes it better.
I know that's a strange thingto brag about.
Nope. But not on this show,though, this is where we celebrate
these things.
This is again, where if wewere like a morning radio program,
we'd have a special noisethat's like special heat. Facts that

(29:27):
he didn't have to look up. Funfacts. Louis Armstrong had a gun.
Starting to question myparenting on a lot of levels.
And also, if you want the gistof an officer and a gentleman, and
I have not delivered that toyou, I will say go find the video

(29:49):
for the Heart Won't Lie withby Reba McIntyre and Vince Gill,
because the whole video islike. Is the plot of an officer and
gentleman. They don'tphysically fight each other. They
just fall in love.
I know.
All the reason. That's all.
They should not. I rememberhearing that Richard Gere and Deborah
Winger hated each other.
Yeah.

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But they had all these intensesex scenes too. And I remember my
mom telling me, fuck, redflag, because we watch this a lot.
And I was very young. Iremember her saying, telling me that
story that they hated eachother. And I'd be like, but they're

(30:32):
in love. And she's like, oh,but sometimes hate makes it better.
Makes the sex better. And I'mlike, okay, you were young.
That's not something thatsomeone should have told a young
person.
I was a child. Anywho,anything more on officers?
That's it.
That's the end.
You have. You have put aperiod on the end of my conversation

(30:55):
about an officer and a gentleman.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Speaking of scarring things,my next one is the Secret of nimh.
Oh, yeah.
Before Land, Before Time,Before An American Tale. Don Bluth
us all up real hard.

(31:16):
This is the one for crows, right?
Yeah. And the. The mice andthe rats.
Okay, I've seen this movie.
You've never seen this. Okay,well, this movie, I think anybody
sort of our age, you go onlineand it's. Everyone's like, what the
was this movie? And it's like,I saw one headline that was like,
why do we all have such asense of dread when we think about

(31:37):
this movie? Oh, so, all right.Mrs. Brisby is a widowed field mouse.
She has four kids. She'sliving on a farm.
Is it animated?
Yes.
Oh, okay. Sorry. That was areally tough.
No. Mrs. Brisby was played byMeryl Streep in Full Mouse Dragon.

(32:07):
I wondered why you had thatlook on your face.
I guess I should introduce.
Okay, so she is an animatedwidowed field mouse.
Good to know.
Living on a farm.
So this is a children's movie.
Yes.
Okay.

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Oh, yeah, Yeah.
I mean, allegedly.
But, yeah, okay. All right.She's living on a farm with her four
kids, and her youngest son,Timothy, is very ill with pneumonia.
And they get a mouse doctor.They get a mouse doctor in, and the
doctor says he could die fromthis. So he has to not move. We can't

(32:50):
move him for, like, threeweeks or something.
That's like a. Most of amouse's life.
It might be time. Just let him go.
But there's a ticking clockbecause spring is arriving, and we
know that this is the timethat the farmer is going to plow
the land. So they have to movetheir house. And unfortunately, the

(33:13):
farmer starts plowing early.
That's son of a.
The son of a. So Mrs. Brisbyand a fellow, like a friend. Shrew
that, like, helps watch thekids. They disable the tractor.
Like her single neighbor.
Yes, like her single neighbor.
A lady as well.
Yes.
Are they lesbians?
Maybe.
They should be.

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They should be. You're right.Let's start that rumor.
They don't need no man theydon't need no man.
We got this tractor on our own.
They got the tractor, but thenthey realized, okay, this was a temporary
solution because, you know,he's gonna figure this out. So Mrs.
Brisby must find a way to moveher home without endangering Timothy
because he's so frail and he'ssick. So Mrs. Brisby.
Kid sounds like a drag.

(33:53):
This is Brisbane talks to.That's definitely what we come away
with, is this kid is things up?
Timothy. Timothy, Can I haveone good day without your.
So Mrs. Brisby talks to themouse doctor again and says, I need

(34:16):
some help. So she. Or so hetells her, okay, go talk to the mysterious
Great Owls eat mice.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's bad advice.
Exactly. So she goes, becauseshe's desperate. And the great owl
comes out looking realintense, like, got this old sort
of long whiskery thing like, Idon't know what's happening. And

(34:39):
no eyes. Just glowing eyes.Yeah. But she somehow talks him down,
and he's like, okay, go talkto the rats in the rose bush.
This is getting complicated.
Wild goose chase.
Yeah.
So Mrs. Brisby goes to therose bush and she meets a society
of intelligent,technologically advanced rats because

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they were once part ofexperiments at nim, the National
Institute of Mental Health, areal organization.
Oh, what?
So there's. So this is sayingthat animal expert experimentation
is good because it could giveyou super smart rats?
Actually, no. Because then itgoes into flashbacks, which I remember
these clearly. Flashbacks ofthe rats Being given injections by

(35:23):
human hands and the rats,like, writhing in pain and like lightning
bolts of things happening.
So this you have justchronicled for us when you became
a vegan. This is real time.
Yep, Yep, yep. So Mrs. Brisbygoes and meets this society and it's
led by Nicodemus. It's a veryold, wizened, super smart rat. And

(35:45):
he realizes, oh, your husbandwas Jonathan Brisby. He was one of
us and he helped us escape.He's our hero. So I'm going to help
you, Mrs. Brisby, by the way,Mrs. Brisby never given a name, just
Mrs. Brisby.
But her husband was a rat or a mouse.
A rat.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, yeah.
This is very forward thinking.
This is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So Nicodemus says, we're goingto help you. We're going to figure
it out. But what we learnquickly is there's internal tension.
There's another rat, Jenner,who wants to take over.
Caitlyn.
Yes. Because. BecauseNicodemus wants to move away, wants
them all to move out of therose bush, start their own society.

(36:28):
And Jenner's like, nope, I'minto maggot. So I, I want to stay
here and I want to make us all miserable.
And this is all just so I'm clear.
Yeah, this is all so that we.
Can move a mouse so he canmove a house.
Move that house.
A full structure.
Because they don't want tomove Timothy.
It's a cinder block. They livein a cinder block. So it's not really

(36:50):
a whole. I mean, to them it'sa whole house. But to us it's like.
But the sick mouse, Timothy,is in the cinder block.
He's in the cinder block andhe can't be moved because pneumonia
can kill you. That's anothermessage we got as kids is pneumonia
can kill you.
So their plan is to move thecinder block with the sick mouse
inside it.
That's right.
Okay.
Yep. They don't seem unsafe,but yes, that's what they're gonna
do. Okay. Okay. So the ratsstart their plan. And the first part

(37:14):
of the plan is that Mrs.Brisby has to go into the farmhouse
and drug the cat named Dragon.Dragon killed her husband, Jonathan
Brisby. But she has to go inand drug this cat so that the rats
can get. I forget what has tohappen, but somehow this is part
of the plan. So she goes andshe drugs the cat. But she also overhears

(37:37):
the farmer called Nim. He'slike, I know about these rats in
the rose bush. I need you toget them out. These rats are. They're
no good.
He said, come get your rats.
Said come get your rats.
Whoa.
He was a snitch on these rats.So everything, you know, it's getting
more and more intense. Right?So the, the rats, they are moving
the house with a pulley systembecause they're smart rats. Remember

(37:59):
this? And they have lots of machinery.
I forgot. I did not know theyhad machinery.
They know what a fulcrum is.
Yeah.
So in this moment, and it'sraining by this time. It's raining,
it's raining, it's pouring.And Jenner, the. The power hungry
rat, he's like, this is mymoment. So Nicodemus is under the

(38:20):
house. No. He chops thepulley. The house goes down, smashes
and kills Nicodemus.
Oh, no.
And now the house is sinkinginto the mud. And so the mud is threatening
to get into the house anddrown everyone. Okay, so Jenner gets
into a sword fight withanother mouse just. Or, excuse me,

(38:44):
another rat, Justin. Sothey're fighting to the death. And
at the same time, Mrs. Brisby,she had been given an amulet from
Nicodemus, just a prettylittle redstone. And he had said,
this helps courageous peoplein times of need. So suddenly she
is so overcome with courageand, you know, fear and everything,
the house just lifts up intothe air and she's able to move it

(39:05):
on her own with this amulet.
Oh, it wasn't one of those,like, adrenaline things like when
you get like kids trappedunder a car and you can just pick
it up?
All right, hold on. Nicodemus,you had an amulet that would give
me power to move the house,and we went with a pulley system.
They went with a bully systembecause remember, they're super smart,
so they went that routeinstead of magic.
Also, did they both haveswords in the sword fight?

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Yes.
Where'd they get swords?
Great question. I don't know.
Does everyone have a sword?
No.
That sword picks up.
We should buy that domain justfor something.
Yeah, we should.
Yeah.
It's probably already a thing.
So now the. The house is safe.Timothy recovers, everyone's. Everyone's

(39:49):
fine.
Except for Nicodemus.
Except for Nicodemus.
What happens to Jenner?
I think Jenner got killed.
Okay.
By Justin. The other rat. Yeah.
So. But was Nicodemus's bodyunderneath the house after it, like,
got lifted up?
Yeah, it was just. It was justground to dust.
Oh, okay.
I don't know. Actually, wedidn't see the Body once it was lifted
up.
Yeah, that would have been astep too far.

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So, okay, as I said, this wasa Don Bluth film. This was his debut
after he and a bunch ofanimators left Disney and was like,
fuck you guys. And theystarted their own thing. And he wanted
to return animation to what hesaid was the rich, detailed style
of Disney's golden era. And sothey went with this.
Interesting that. It's nice.

(40:34):
And rats.
Mickey Mouse.
You. Yep. Yes. Actually, yeah.There was a whole thing in Wikipedia
about this big fight whereDisney was like, you can't do that
because we have Mickey. And sothat was part of the whole breakup
thing. It wasn't a blockbusterwhen it came out because it was out
around the same time as E.T.it actually came out the week before

(40:54):
I turned five, so I was primeaudience for this. I don't think
I went to the theater to seethis, but I think maybe when it came
out on vhs, I watched it andit fucked me up.
I remember. I think it was. Ifeel like it was on HBO or cable
or something. I rememberseeing a lot when I was a kid.
Yeah, it was on a lot. It feltlike it was commonly, like, paired

(41:15):
with Fraggle Rock or likethere was a lot of, like it was HBO
animation or cartoons or something.
I feel like. And this is justme making stuff up, really, but I
feel like Disney cartoons werenot on HBO at the time. So I feel
like HBO is using this andwhat few non Disney cartoons there
were to sort of get kids towatch their channel.
Right.
Yeah. Wasn't the owl when theowl, like, stopped being scary? Wasn't

(41:38):
he kind of goofy? Wasn't. Was that.
No, there was a crow.
Okay, that's what I'm thinking of.
There was a crow named Jeremywho was voiced by Dom DeLuise.
That's right.
And he was very clumsy and,you know, comic relief. I. I didn't
want to rewatch. I've neverre. Watched it because it's just
too much. But I did watch thetrailer for it and that was enough

(42:00):
to like, some deep seated fearand dread and. And also like a. A
little bit of like. Oh. Kindof thing. It's all mixed up together.
Strange connecting to DomDeLuise. He was busy in 1982 because
he also was in a little moviecalled the Best Little Whorehouse
in Texas.
I almost did this one and thenI was like, I think, yeah, it's.

(42:23):
Like my David Bowie. Like, wehave a Dolly Parton connection. I
would be remiss to not bringit Up? Yeah, I think so. This is
a 1982American musical comedyis what they're labeling it.
It's funny that in 1982 therewas like a movie out, like a mainstream
movie out with the word whorehouse.
Yes.
In the title.
And it's actually a filmadaptation, the 1978 Broadway musical

(42:46):
of the same name, which Ididn't realize someh.
Yeah.
At all. But it stars DollyParton, that's really the lead. Burt
Reynolds, Jim Nabors, Charlesdurning and Dom DeLuise. Because
of course, you can't have awhorehouse without those people.
Listen, if there's one thing Iknow, you can't have a whorehouse
without Jim. Neighbors.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

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You get it ain't a whorehouse.I got a gummer pile in sight.
And what I found when I wasrevisiting this movie is that it
honestly sounds like a reallife Matt Gates fairy tale. Like
it sounds like something wewould hear on the news that actually

(43:28):
happened because it's sostrange. So you have Ed Earl Dodd.
Ed Earl Dodd is.
That's one person?
Yep.
Okay.
He's the sheriff of LandvilleCounty, Texas, and believe it or
not, not a third cousin twiceremoved from Mississippi. That's
just his real name. And he'splayed by Burt Reynolds. He has been
in a 12 year relationship withMs. Mona Stangley, who's played by

(43:52):
the one and only Dolly Parton.
Stangley.
Stangley, who runs the ChickenRanch, which is a brothel on the
outskirts of town. And hedoesn't disturb her business despite
legality because we all knowthat, you know, the reverends of
megachurches have deemed itokay, it's fine if it's a brothel,
it's fine. So the thing isthat they're also secret lovers.

(44:13):
So he kind of takes a passbecause he doesn't want to disturb
her business because they havethis secret relationship on the side.
Then enters Dom DeLuise asMelvin P. Thorpe. Still haven't figured
out what the P stands for orwhy it's necessary, but he announces
his plans to do an expose onthe Chicken Ranch on his TV show,

(44:34):
the Watchdog Report, which Iassume is where Nancy Grace got all
of her ideas, because itsounds. Why? Why do we need this?
And on the show he revealsthat Texas has a whorehouse in it,
which they make sound like abig revelation. But I'm also like,
is it the only one?
I mean, I mean, it's the best one.
The title is Best LittleWhorehouse. So I have to assume that

(44:57):
there's competition.
Yeah. You can't be the best ifyou're the only one.
And from there, thingsescalate quickly. So Thorpe accuses
Ed. Ed, Earl, dad, thesheriff, of taking bribes to cover
for the Chicken Ranch. Notrealizing that there's a relationship
there, he just figures moneyhas to be passing hands. So naturally,
as a sheriff does, Ed justthreatens Thorpe with physical assault

(45:19):
in jail.
Sure.
Yeah. And so this is allhappening outside of the ranch. Meanwhile,
back at the ranch, the annualfootball rivalry is on with the two
college football teams inTexas. And it's a tradition. This
is the part I can't get past,the tradition, is that the winner
gets to go to the ChickenRanch to celebrate its victory. Every

(45:39):
year, the whole.
So the whole team gets to goand fuck all the ladies.
To which I assume Nancy Gracewould say something like, we're rewarding
our young athletes with whoresand we expect they won't grow up
and become killers. I don'tthink so. So after the expose, Ed
asks Mona to shut the ranchdown for a couple months to just

(46:01):
take the heat off. And sheagrees under the condition that the
winner, the college king, canstill come to the Chicken Ranch and
celebrate. Not hard to figureout what comes next. Thorpe graduates
to ultra creep. And he sneaksinto the ranch, catching the football
team and a senator. What thefuck? Oh, my goodness. Being doing
their thing at the ChickenRanch. So Ed and Mona have a big

(46:24):
fight and she insults him. Andhe responds by saying it's a whole
lot better than being a whore.
Uh oh, that's a whore you'vebeen dating for 12 years, sir.
The idea that Burt Reynoldswould say that Dolly Parton is.
It's outlandish. It is absurd, unacceptable.
Today he'd be canceled. He'dbe out.
He should be canceledretroactively for saying that to

(46:45):
Dolly Parton. But afterinsulting her, he decides he's gonna
fight for her. And his thoughtprocess, much like the owl, I guess,
is to go to the governor andappeal to the governor to let the
ranch stay open. The governorsays no, and which I assume, you
know, that's. I mean, imagineTexas governor. I don't. You know,

(47:07):
Greg Abbott. I don't thinksaying yes to that. Maybe behind
the scenes.
Yeah, yeah.
Only if he gets a cut.
Exactly.
So as this all happens, Thorpeis outside the governor's. Wherever
they go to talk to thegovernor, the governor's mansion.
And it's just jubilant thatthe governor says no. So Ed just
punches him, punches him out.And it's caught on camera so Ed's

(47:27):
response is that we have toshut down the ranch completely and
everybody leaves the ranch. Soas Mona's leaving, he stops her and
proposes marriage. Becausenothing says I love you like you're
a whore.
Yeah.
She says no.
And shutting down her businessand shutting.
Down her business and allthese people that she cared for leaving
and trying to find other jobs.She says no, not because he's a douchebag,

(47:49):
but because she knows that hewants to run for state legislature
and.
She'S thinking of him versusthe fact that he insulted her.
Yeah, this will ruin yourchances because I run a bra or I
did run a Roth Hill. He sayshe wants to marry her no matter what
anyone says, and physicallyput. Picks her up and puts her in

(48:10):
his truck. And I can't tellyou how much I can't stand it when
people pick people up.
You've gone on record sayingthat I fucking hate it.
She didn't even say yes. Andyou just picked her up and put her
in the truck and they marry.And then he successfully runs for
state legislature. So I thinkthis is, you know, I have a deep,
deep love for Dolly Parton. I.I think, unfortunately, you know,

(48:33):
this movie is a real dreamstory of everyone coming out on top
except women. So that's something.
And that you can call yourgirlfriend a whore and still win.
It's okay, because I guess Iam. Yeah.
Yeah.
So also, which I foundinteresting because it's such a popular
song now attributed to her, isthat she reworked I Will Always Love

(48:55):
youe for the soundtrack tothis movie. Like there was a things
she sang in the movie, likeHard Candy Christmas that were written
by other people. And then shewrote a few songs for the soundtrack.
And one that she did was areworking of I Will Always love you,
which is interesting becauseshe originally wrote that for her
original partner that she wenton TV with and it was supposed to
be like this lovely send offthing. So I was like, I wonder how

(49:16):
he felt about that then beingreworked like 10 years later into
a whorehouse movie. But. Andit's just interesting because no
one really talks about thefact that that that's one of the
places that popped up before,you know, Whitney Houston's famous
version of it. But yeah, andshe's gone on record multiple times
as saying that she believesWhitney Houston owns that song now.
She thinks that she did thebest and it should stay with her.

(49:38):
But.
And I've heard her talk aboutthe first version with Porter Wagner,
right?
Yep.
And. And it feels like shetalks about that version. She doesn't
talk about this.
She doesn't talk about thisversion at all. No, she definitely
talks about. Yeah. Thatversion. And because you know, her
decision, which was a prettycontroversial decision, honestly
at the time, because just forwhere women were, she was like, look,

(50:01):
I could make more moneywithout this guy. Like, I think I'm
better. He's holding me back.But she also had a lot of love and
respect for him because that'show she kind of got her career started
with doing the things withhim. But. And apparently they remain
friends for a long time andwhere, you know, she has a lot of
love for him. But I, I didprint the movie poster.
Yes.
Because it's peak. BurtReynolds and Dolly Parton, but repping

(50:24):
the mustache community. Yeah.
And the boobs, man, those areboobs. With Burton Dolly, this much
fun just couldn't be legal.Legal couldn't read it.
Yeah. I mean, it's a. It's afun romp.
As we said last week. It's a film.

(50:45):
It's a film.
It's a film.
It's a film.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's. I willsay as having just gone to Dollywood,
there is a whole thing thatyou go through of her whole career
and they have like big, likethey had a big 9 to 5 section, all
this stuff. And there's likeone poster that's like smaller than
a movie size poster of.
The best little horror.

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She's like, let's downplaythat one. Don't love it.
I think it's also important tonote you're wearing a Dolly Parton.
I did, I did. Yeah. Make sureand wear my Dolly Parton sweatshirt
today.
Just repping her hard. I like it.
No.
All right, what do you got,Heath, for your next.
Have you guys heard of a songcalled Gloria by Laura Brannigan?
I love that song so much. Idon't know if I have.

(51:27):
What.
I think you'd like it.
I take your word for it. Ithink you. Yeah.
That song was released in themiddle of 1982 and was the second
single from her debut album.
And who was it by?
Laura Brannigan.
Okay.
Yeah.
Just to see if you recognize it.

(51:48):
Oh, yeah, I do. Okay, yeah.All right, I got it, I got it. Sorry,
sorry, sorry. I didn't. Neverknew it was called Gloria, I don't
think. But she says Glorialike a bunch of times. Right? Yeah.
And still wouldn't have said,oh yeah. That song Gloria never would
have got there.

(52:11):
So Gloria, Laura Brannigancame out in 1982. Her version of
the song is a cover of anItalian song from the late 1970s.
Oh, yeah.
So her version of the songwasn't a big hit right away, but
then the dance clubs, aka1982, started playing it, and its

(52:33):
popularity kind of blew up atthat point, and it eventually sold
more than 2 million copies inthe United States.
The gays, drive culture.
Her performance in the songwas nominated for a Grammy for Best
Female Pop Vocal Performance,but lost to Melissa Manchester's.
You should hear how she talksabout you. A song I've never fucking
heard of.
What? Yeah, talk about it.Yeah. What? And who's Melissa Manchester?

(52:57):
Well. Oh, she played Blossom'sdeadbeat mom, if you remember the
show. Blossom.
Yes.
She was the one that was neverthere and would just show up occasionally,
like, with, like, oh, I'mgonna take you away from all this.
And I'm gonna, you know,talking about her fabulous life and
all this stuff. And then shejust, like, leave in the middle of
the night.
You. Melissa Manchester, also.
Is that a real name?Manchester? It feels like you were

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in witness protection and theywere like, hold up. You're not supposed
to be popular. This is notwhat you're supposed to do.
Supposed to win a Grammy.
Pull the single.
Her song Don't Cry Out Loud,which was, I think, more popular
anyway, if you remember DropDead Gorgeous, the contestant in
the wheelchair, because she'sgot an.
It's a terrible song.

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She lip syncs to it. That'sthe song she lip syncs.
Oh, my God. Aaron's lost it.
It's so bad. So bad. Oh, wow.Don't cry out loud, bitch.
Yep. Quit your fussing. Ishould have sang it to that mouse.

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Yeah, yeah.
Quit your fussing.
Quit your fussing, Mrs. Brisby.
That's the country version of it.
Yeah.
Anyway, the song had secondlife in the past few years, which
is, I think, almost moreinteresting than the original song
itself. In a pretty strangeand wonderful turn of events, it's

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become the unofficial victorysong for the St. Louis Blues Hockey
team.
Really?
Yeah. What? So at thebeginning of 2019, the Blues had
had. They had the worst recordin the NHL, Right? The season had
been going terrible. They'dfired their coach in the middle of
the season. Their goalie wasan inexperienced rookie. Everyone

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just assumed this season wasbasically a lost cause. So while
in Philadelphia for an awaygame In January of 2019, a few of
the Blues players were in abar watching a football game between
the Philadelphia Eagles andthe Chicago Bears. Every Time there
was a commercial during thegame, someone in the bar would yell,
play Gloria. And the DJ wouldplay the song and the whole bar would
go crazy. Like, everyone justloved it. So the next day, the Blues

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won their hockey game againstthe Philadelphia Flyers. And the
players decided the song was agood luck charm. So when they beat
Philadelphia on January 7, itwas the rookie goalies first start,
you know, the new goalie, andthe team played Gloria in the locker
room. So they decided the songwas helping. And then they played
it after every win. And whenthe D. The. The arena dj, which I

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didn't know was a drum, thearena DJ heard about that, he began
playing the song in the arenaas sort of a rallying thing. And
so after they started thisritual of playing Gloria, the team
won 11 games in a row. They'dgone from having the worst record
in the. In the league towinning 11 games in a row.
Laura Brannigan saved them.
So radio station Y98 in St.Louis played the song for 24 hours

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straight three times thatseason. When the Blues won their
playoff game against theDallas playoff series, against the
Dallas Stars, when theydefeated the San Jose Sharks to win
the Western ConferenceChampionship. And when they defeated
the Boston Bruins to win theStanley Cup. Now this in January
of the season, they had theworst record in the league.
And then they won the Stanley Cup.
And then they won the StanleyCup. By the end, the seat, like in

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May or June or whenever they do.
The Stanley Cup, I feel likeplaying it for 24 hours straight
feels like an overreaction.Like maybe we just play it once,
like at the same time everyday or something, like as a celebration.
The bands Fish and VampireWeekend were both performing concerts
in St. Louis the night theywon the Stanley Cup. So both bands
performed a cover of the songwhen they found out the Blues had
won. Unfortunately, LauraBrannigan wasn't around to kind of

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see the song's resurgence inpopularity, as she had died in her
sleep in 2004. She had acerebral aneurysm. So, and I think
I've mentioned this on thispodcast before, but when I was a
kid, my aunt would drive meand my brothers around in her gold
Transit. Yeah, you did put theT tops out. And we'd insist that
she would play this song onher eight track Player Classic.
That is the best use of thesong you've said so far.

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Had we made her turn thevolume up as loud as possible, we'd
be going down the highway.
Oh, my God.
And it was maybe the most funI've ever, ever had. I don't know.
I think at the time youmentioned this, you're like maybe
the coolest you'd ever been to.
Yes. So, yeah. I mean, thesong's 40 years old, still slaps.
Just ask anybody in St. Louis.They will tell you that it's a fantastic

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song.
No wonder it helped them winthe Stanley Cup.
Wow.
And it's just wow. I mean,because. Yeah. I mean, the lyrics
have nothing, nothing to dowith hockey or sports or anything
like that. It's just aboutthis lady named Gloria who, you know,
took a lover in the afternoon.
Yeah, yeah.
She's fucking around a lotand. Yeah, get it.
Gloria.
Yeah. And that's the otherthing I think that's funny about
my aunt playing this for us.You know, we were like 7 or 8 years

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old. Like, we didn't know thatGloria was doing the afternoon. She
was a poor.
She was a poor.
I love that story so much. TheT top my next one is also a movie
and it's called Fast Times atRidgemont High.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
This, we might call this aseminal teen comedy slash drama movie.

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It's set in SouthernCalifornia and the movie follows
a group of high schoolstudents at Ridgemont High during
the school year. And maybe ourmain character is 15 year old Stacy,
who is Jennifer Jason Lee. Andshe is best friends with her slightly
older friend Linda, who isPhoebe Cates. And Linda is saying,
like, I have sex all the timeand you need to explore your sexuality

(58:35):
and blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay.
To a 15 year old.
To a 15 year old. So Stacytaking that advice, she hooks up
with a 26 year old guy in abaseball. Baseball dugout for her
first time.
Oh, yeah.
So then she's like, that waskind of weird. But then she is sort
of friends with Mark Ratnerwho works at the movie theater. She

(58:57):
works at the pizza place inthe mall. He works at the movie theater.
And Mark and her kind offlirting, whatever. Mark is friends,
though, with a guy named Mikedemonet. And Damone is just a douchebag.
He's. He's the kind of guy whosays he has a five point plan for
picking up girls. So he'strying to count five points.
Yeah, yeah.
He's trying to counsel Mark onhow to, you know, do this relationship.

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Well, kind of thing.Unfortunately, though, he ends up
hooking up with Stacy.
Oh, God, Stacy.
Yeah. Causing a rift betweenthe two friends, naturally. And unfortunately,
Stacy gets pregnant fromDamone and Phoebe.
Tell her about that.
Phoebe Cates is conspicuouslyabsent from this discussion. And

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she chooses to have anabortion without telling her parents.
She does involve her olderbrother, though, and his name is
Brad Hamilton. And Brad isplayed by Judge Reinhold.
Okay.
And he is. This is his senioryear and he pictured it going amazing.
He's working at this burgerplace. He's got a good role. He's
got a girlfriend. He's like.Like, things are going great. But

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immediately, senior year,things start going real bad. He loses
his job. His girlfriend breaksup with him. So he's going through
a tough time.
Because she just wanted aburger shop.
Apparently she was a Puget Sound.
She was the burger chainversion of a Puget sound. So Brad's
having a tough year. Itdoesn't help that during this year,

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one time, Stacy and Linda areat the house. They're in the pool,
playing in the pool. And Bradis in the bathroom and he's looking
out the window, and he seesLinda coming out of the pool in a
red Bikini Phoebe Cates.Probably one of the iconic movie
scenes she's coming out tomoving in stereo from cars. He proceeds

(01:00:46):
to have a whole fantasy abouther taking her top off and inviting
him to, you know, make sweetlove to her.
Meanwhile, in his parents pool.
Yeah. Meanwhile, she isactually trying to get into the bathroom
as she opens the door. Andhe's jerking off while she catches.
She catches him jerking off toher. Yeah. So very embarrassing.

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Also happening during all thistime is there's a surfer slash stoner
called Jeff Spicoli, played bySean Penn. And his main thing this
year is he's constantlyclashing with Mr. Hand, this uptight
history teacher.
Mr. Hand.
Yes. And they're having lotsof, like, back and forth little fights
and things. But in the end,Mr. Hand really tries to help Spicoli

(01:01:34):
pass this final test orsomething so that he can graduate.
Lots of other things arehappening and everything, but the
movie ends with the end of theschool year. You know, Brad graduates
things, things are doing okay.Stacy Ratner. Stacy and Mark are
actually dating, but theyhaven't gone all the way. So some.
Some fun facts about thismovie. This was based on a 1981 book

(01:01:57):
by Cameron Crowe, who went onto do so many movies we love and
everything. He went undercoveras a high school student at age 22
and he wrote a book about it.So if you remember the movie Almost.
Famous, I just don't thinkit's necessary.
Not that far out of teenage 21Jump Street. It and just went back.

(01:02:20):
I was gonna say, did they makethe movie Never Been Kissed based
On his experience.
Yeah, if we remember, likeAlmost Famous, it showed basically
his story of becoming aRolling Stone journalist when he
was a kid. So he. I guess hejust had to keep upping the ante
on different journalismassignments or something, but that's
what he did here. So he. Whenhe was in school, he met a bunch

(01:02:43):
of people and they turned intosort of composite characters for
this book. So then the moviescript was first offered to David
lynch to direct and he waslike, yeah, it's cool. I'm good.
So then, not my scene. I'mgonna go haunt the dreams of people
in Tim. Twin Peaks. So thisended up being the first feature

(01:03:06):
film by Amy Heckerling, whowent on to do Clueless. She was only
28 at the time and she was alone woman in a very male dominated
field as well as maledominated movies. Movies. In maybe
no surprise to anyone, SeanPenn was a total asshole during the
filming. He stayed incharacter as Spicoli the entire shoot.

(01:03:31):
He introduced himself asSpicoli and refused to respond to
his real name on set. He evenhad his trailer labeled Spicoli.
I feel like there are somecharacters where. Yeah, you need
to do that. Like if you'relike in something like the Godfather,
you're deep, serious intostuff. I feel like being a stoner
high school student, like, youshould be able to sort of pop in
and out of that fairly easily.

(01:03:51):
This is not it. Not it. Therewere a lot of famous people in this.
People that became famous,obviously Sean Penn, Jennifer Jason
Leigh, Forest Whitaker was init. Nicolas Cage, Eric Stoltz, Anthony
Edwards, all of them smallerroles, but they went on to. Actually.
Nicholas Cage tried to playBrad, but. And he lied about his

(01:04:14):
age to get the bigger part,but he was only 17, so he couldn't
get that part for some reason.
That's probably fine. I mean,he's. Yeah, his chops aren't great.
Yes.
Apparently my nationaltreasure, too.
It's my piece of evidence.
Apparently there was a. Ithink it was the scene with Stacy
and Damone, a sex scene thatwas very graphic and where we saw

(01:04:38):
full male frontal nudity. Andso the movie got an X rating at first,
which was the Kiss of Death.Yeah. Which is. Is now NC17. But
yeah, you get an X rating and you're.
Yep.
So they trimmed that scenedown and they eventually got an R
rating. But yeah, like it. Youknow, it's very sort of frank discussion

(01:04:58):
about sex and abortion andeverything. So it was a pretty. Pretty
groundbreaking. So Fast Timesat Ridgemont High.
That's tough to follow. Allright, this is weird for me, but
I brought another moviebecause I know it's very strange,
but this one, I'm gonna play alittle song because this is why this
movie is in my head and willbe forever and ever.

(01:05:21):
Okay. Oh, my God. This isRobin Hood.
Because if you don't recognizethat song, I don't know what you
were doing in 1982, because I.It was originally. It is a Walt Disney
film, animated. It was firstreleased in 1973, but they re released
it in 1980. 82, I think,because they felt like it didn't

(01:05:43):
get the following or the, youknow, like, movies were movies geared
towards kids, and that stuffis really, like, taking off. And
they're like, we have anopportunity here to make.
Or maybe they were like, donBluth left us. So now we have to.
Yeah, now we just have torecite. Because I don't remember.
There's another Disney movie.They re released that year, but I
can't remember what it is offthe top of my head. Another animated
one. So you might be rightthat they were just like, we lost

(01:06:05):
a bunch of animators and wedon't know what to do. But.
And I think back in the daywith Disney, too, like, without.
Before VCRs were a thing andbefore cable TV was a thing and before
streaming and all that, like,people couldn't see Robin Hood unless
it was in the theaters. Like,you know, they could sort of trot
out their old stuff and make.
More money off of it,famously. The vault, right? It's

(01:06:26):
going into the vault. And youhave to buy the VHS before it goes
into the vault. Forever.
The clamshell vhs, or elseyou're never gonna see it again.
They did that in the 90s. Iremember when I worked at Target,
and they would be like, oh,you know, Sleeping Beauty is going
back in the vault. And I'mlike, we'd have to take it off the
shelf and they'd just be inthe stock room at Target, and we'd
have to, like, before someoneshipped it back to Disney. I'm like,

(01:06:46):
can't we just finish fuckingselling these? Like, I don't know
why.
So dumb. So the thing for meis the narrator, the rooster minstrel,
Alan Adale, who just singsthat little ditty everywhere he goes.
And he has, like, that kindof, like, weird little, you know.

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Well, Robin Hood went down andhe found out that, you know, like,
that he narrates the wholeentire movie. And, I mean, we all
kind of know the story ofRobin Hood. But the movie follows
Robin Hood, Little John andthe inhabitants of Nottingham as
they fight against theexcessive taxation of Prince John,
who is a bumbling idiot of aking prince who decides that he's

(01:07:29):
just gonna tax everything sothat he can get more money.
Which it seems familiar.
It really does. I don't knowwhere I've heard. Is that from 1982?
Does that feel like.Interesting. So strange. He's also
really offended when peopledon't like him. Prince John.
It's very strange, fascinating.
And okay, so Robin Hoodcontinues to have these fights with

(01:07:52):
him. He's trying to basicallytake the money, return it to the
people. In the meantime,there's also a love story with Maid
Marian. And Prince John isalso interested in Maid Marian, but
Robin Hood eventually bestshim and wins her hand. So what I
liked about it is that Ididn't realize at the time, but I
can't tell you the number oftimes I've seen this movie. There
are scenes flashing right nowthrough my head like, I know that

(01:08:13):
movie back and forth insideand out. For some reason. I watched
it a million times and Ireally, truly believe that it had
to do with the rooster. Idon't know why else. I really liked
that research.
I don't remember much of it.
I really loved that song. Socritics originally panned it saying
that it used too much recycledanimation from other files, but has

(01:08:35):
since it's become a cultclassic, obviously. But they said
that there was animation andcharacters that they pulled from
other old movies that didn'tdo well from Disney. And they put
them in this. Which sort ofgives credence to some of the.
Yeah.
Unrest and stuff with theanimals at the time.
The team leaving.
Yeah, yeah. Jay Cox of Time atthe time said, Robin's Hood basic

(01:08:57):
problem is that it is rathertoo pretty and good natured. They
just thought there was nosubstance to it because apparently
we were in Secrets of NimTime. We wanted things to be darkness,
scar.
The fuck out of kids.
Yeah. And Robin. And to that,Jay Cox, I say, what about the fire
in the church? What about thefire in the church with the bunny
mom and the mouse mom tryingto get the.

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Their kids are in the movie.
Yes.
Okay. Remember that.
Terrifying.
It's also worth noting thatall of the characters are animals.
Robin Hood is a.
Yes. I'm sorry, I might nothave mentioned at the beginning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're allplayed by animals. Yeah. So Prince
John is a weird, bumblingtiger. No, Lion. Lion.
Lion.
Yeah. Gene Siskel said 80minutes of Pratt Falls and nincompoop

(01:09:41):
dialogue and said theanimation was Saturday morning TV
cartoon stuff. Stuff.
Wow.
And to that I say, sit down.You are done.
That's not even really a burn.That's not a raid, like, Saturday
morning cartoon.
And I was like, if you cantake that rooster's tasty riff and
not enjoy it for all time,then I don't know if I can trust

(01:10:03):
you anymore. Gene Siskel. Itis a classic. It is. I don't know
if you can. If it's stillplayed or how that all works now
with the Disney Vault.
I bet it's on Disney.
Yeah, it probably is, but itis kind of worth a rewatch. I've
watched it with Mason Sense,and it's. There's a lot of funny.
I mean, he's kind of right inthe sense that there's a lot of just
funny happenings with Robin Hood.

(01:10:25):
And see, that's probably age appropriate.
It is age appropriate. Yeah,yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah.
And maybe when you leave, youdon't know more about, like, the
Russian Revolution.
And it's real simple, like,take the money, robbing the rich
to feed the poor type ofsituation. So, yeah.
You're not worried about beingan orphan. And, yeah.
I remember deeply connectingwith the rabbit character that was

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trying to run the church andfeed all of her family, and she just
kept having to pay taxes toPrince John and his henchmen Came
one time and stole all of hermoney. And she's like, I don't know
what I'm gonna do. Robin Hood.And Robin Hood was just devastated
and went and got her stuff tohelp, and she's like, you're our
hero.
Wow.
Yeah. And I remember justthinking, like, I don't. Yeah, that's
right. That's what you shoulddo. You should to do exactly what

(01:11:12):
he did. No moral problems forme. 100%. Love it.
Yep. Yeah. Nice. Wow. Two movies.
I know, it's weird.
1982 was a good year for you,even though you're one.
Well, as soon. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
Good stuff, everybody.
82.

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82.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't know what that was,but I love it. I love it.
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So have you seen the movie Megan?
No.
With the animatronic?
No, no, I wouldn't.
I'd skip it.

(01:12:39):
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah. I mean, I'm terrified as it
is, but yeah, this is wherewe're at. The weirdest thing for
me is when he dances becausehe can actually kind of dance, and
it's very off putting, whichis why he doesn't get put on my desk
anymore. Because one time Ifell for it. I put him on my desk.
He was cool for a little bit.I was working, and then all of a
sudden this. What sounded likea mariachi band started up and he

(01:13:02):
started moving across my dancedesk dancing. And I was like, no,
we're done with.
That's. You basically have acat now because, yeah, the cat's
getting up to hijinks. Or a dog.
It also came. You could pickan outfit for it. Like an outfit
you can put on the littlerobot. And Mason's obsessed with
corgis, so I got it a littlecorgi outfit. I had to take it off

(01:13:22):
day two because I was like, itis so alarming to have him in the
tiny corgi outfit dance. Ican't do it.