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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, it's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
What we're going to talk about now in a bit
of a trigger warning, but I think it's a really
important one because I want to talk about male childcare
workers in our childcare centers now. Of course, here on
the Gold Coast a couple of years ago, Ashley Paul
Griffith was arrested in twenty twenty two. It was for
his horrific crimes three hundred and seven he was eventually
(00:22):
convicted of And then just when you think that horror
is being dealt with and people are trying to move
on and be healed, another one happened in Victoria, this
time Joshua Dale Brown is his name, Seventy charges against
him and twelve hundred children are having to.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Be tested for STIs.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So it is disgusting, and so there are some very
big questions that we need to ask as a country
about who we trust to care for our kids. Now,
this is where it gets a little bit complex, because
there are a lot of calls to ban men from
working in childcare, or at least the latest has been
from changing nappies. I guess I just want to open
up the phones and ask the question, is this the
(01:03):
answer because I get really emotional about this because my
children's favorite person at their childcare was a man, and
he was a beautiful human. He helped our family with
our ADHD boy that was having difficulties. He would take
the kids outside and they'd search for snakes and they
would play real games the little boys. If you remove
(01:23):
men from childcare centers, what are we saying to these
little boys about men? So I feel like it's a
really big question. We need to ask bigger questions, things
like what are the systems for vetting, what are the
systems for reporting, what is the supervision going on? I
know in my kids childcare center there's windows everywhere. I
(01:44):
just don't think anything appalling like that could possibly happen.
So what are the childcare centers like where these were
able to happen? So I just want to open up
the questions, what open up the phones? What do you
think the answer is for childcare in Australia? Do you
think it is something simple like men can't change nappies?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't think that's completely outrageous. Well, I don't think
that's completely outrageous. Is it the way we build our
childcare centers? Windows everywhere?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It discriminates against men, of course it does fully so
by just saying it a blanket. I don't think the
solution is stopping a man from doing his profession because
of criminal activity by other people. And it's not fair.
It's just not fair on genuine people that want to
(02:33):
be in the system.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So what do you think the answer is.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think the answer would be maybe supervision or a
camera over the changing table area where everything is policed
and that's ordered every single day after every shift. But
then a camera around kids is also, yes, well, but
it's in amongst the professionals, you know what I mean, Like,
(02:57):
obviously the footage doesn't go anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I actually don't mind the idea of just no men
changing nappies. I definitely don't want men removed from childcare sinners.
I think that is the worst thing we could possibly do.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I think like that it takes away Yeah, it takes
away professional little boys being around male mentors, which they need.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Are you still don't you still.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Think I think you should that's part of the job.
I just think it's discriminatory against men to say that
you can't do this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, well, let's open up the phones. What do you
think is the answer. That's a simple answer that has
been flagged. Just they don't change nappies and they work
with the kids that are older. I mean, remember child
care is vast. They start from babies and they go
to five years to stop.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
A woman from doing the same thing. Absolutely, you know
it is on both sides of the table.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely, absolutely, So what do you think? And you know, please,
no answer is a wrong answer today because we do
need to find some solutions and it is obviously an
opportunity as well to shout out the beautiful childcare workers
that are out there and the beautiful childcare centers which
make it possible for so many of us to actually
afford our lives now, because without the opportunity to have
(04:14):
other people raising our kids, we can't be working.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So what do you think of table chat?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
No answer comment is a bad one double five two nine.
Give us a call, give us your thoughts.
Okay, it's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
What we're going to talk about now in a bit
of a trigger warning, but I think it's a really
important one because I want to talk about male childcare
workers in our childcare centers now. Of course, here on
the Gold Coast a couple of years ago, Ashley Paul
Griffith was arrested in twenty twenty two. It was for
his horrific crimes three hundred and seven he was eventually
(00:22):
convicted of And then just when you think that horror
is being dealt with and people are trying to move
on and be healed, another one happened in Victoria, this
time Joshua Dale Brown is his name, Seventy charges against
him and twelve hundred children are having to.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Be tested for STIs.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So it is disgusting, and so there are some very
big questions that we need to ask as a country
about who we trust to care for our kids. Now,
this is where it gets a little bit complex, because
there are a lot of calls to ban men from
working in childcare, or at least the latest has been
from changing nappies. I guess I just want to open
up the phones and ask the question, is this the
(01:03):
answer because I get really emotional about this because my
children's favorite person at their childcare was a man, and
he was a beautiful human. He helped our family with
our ADHD boy that was having difficulties. He would take
the kids outside and they'd search for snakes and they
would play real games the little boys. If you remove
(01:23):
men from childcare centers, what are we saying to these
little boys about men? So I feel like it's a
really big question. We need to ask bigger questions, things
like what are the systems for vetting, what are the
systems for reporting, what is the supervision going on? I
know in my kids childcare center there's windows everywhere. I
(01:44):
just don't think anything appalling like that could possibly happen.
So what are the childcare centers like where these were
able to happen? So I just want to open up
the questions, what open up the phones? What do you
think the answer is for childcare in Australia? Do you
think it is something simple like men can't change nappies?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't think that's completely outrageous. Well, I don't think
that's completely outrageous. Is it the way we build our
childcare centers? Windows everywhere?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It discriminates against men, of course it does fully so
by just saying it a blanket. I don't think the
solution is stopping a man from doing his profession because
of criminal activity by other people. And it's not fair.
It's just not fair on genuine people that want to
(02:33):
be in the system.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So what do you think the answer is.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think the answer would be maybe supervision or a
camera over the changing table area where everything is policed
and that's ordered every single day after every shift. But
then a camera around kids is also, yes, well, but
it's in amongst the professionals, you know what I mean, Like,
(02:57):
obviously the footage doesn't go anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I actually don't mind the idea of just no men
changing nappies. I definitely don't want men removed from childcare sinners.
I think that is the worst thing we could possibly do.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I think like that it takes away Yeah, it takes
away professional little boys being around male mentors, which they need.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Are you still don't you still.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Think I think you should that's part of the job.
I just think it's discriminatory against men to say that
you can't do this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, well, let's open up the phones. What do you
think is the answer. That's a simple answer that has
been flagged. Just they don't change nappies and they work
with the kids that are older. I mean, remember child
care is vast. They start from babies and they go
to five years to stop.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
A woman from doing the same thing. Absolutely, you know
it is on both sides of the table.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely, absolutely, So what do you think? And you know, please,
no answer is a wrong answer today because we do
need to find some solutions and it is obviously an
opportunity as well to shout out the beautiful childcare workers
that are out there and the beautiful childcare centers which
make it possible for so many of us to actually
afford our lives now, because without the opportunity to have
(04:14):
other people raising our kids, we can't be working.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So what do you think of table chat?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
No answer comment is a bad one double five two nine.
Give us a call, give us your thoughts.
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