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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Conrad, Good morning and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Well, congratulations on your success. You're speaking truth and people
are jumping on board.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
They love you.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
I think the common wisdom is that people think that
ossies don't care about politics, but I think we'd be
talking about the wrong things. And when you're talking about
the right things, O, the planners actually do care.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
One of the things that I'm excited about is you're
getting a lot of young people interested in politics. For
a long time, it's been met and you're making it
simple for them to get and also uncovering things that
we don't even know about.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I think younger people are looking at their futures, and
they're looking at the systems that are functioning right now,
and they are not bloody working and they finish UNI,
they've gotten jobs that are looking at trying to get
it out and like, hang on, this system is rigged,
and we need to start talking about fishing the systems
rather than these little tinkering around the edges, throwing some
cash here and there. We need actual problems to be
(00:58):
solved so that we can actually have a future.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, I first came across you with the viral video
you made talking about taxation in Australia and if we
adopted perhaps United Emirates ideas that we wouldn't have as
high a taxation, if we could utilize our own research sources,
which we don't own.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Can you unpack that for everyone who may not have
seen that.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Well, yeah, that was the first video. They got like
four or five million views. That really struck a chord
with Audie Is because we're told we're this resource rich,
lucky nation.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Aren't we.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh, we're so rich, We're so rich, And that's true.
We export in one year more gas than to tire
export its TATI made seventy six billion.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We made two billion. Now do the math.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We exported more gas and we got close to Funerall.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's the technical amount we got.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And when it comes down to it, it needs kind
of gas bludgers. They're taking out gas and exporting it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
If they're not paying for what they're taking and they're
not paying taxes, which is true. Who otherwise let's hold
them a bag and picking up that, Well, it's worthy
of the punters.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, exactly. Do you think we can turn that around?
And how would we turn that around.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, I think we need our politicians to stop taking
their talking points from gas lobbyists who are in the
halls of Parliament the whole time. I've got my lobbying path,
I'm walking around, I'm seeing execs from all these gas corporations,
mining corporations, and then the politicians get jobs at these
same mining corporations after they make the rules. So there's
a whole system and structure that's then play that you
(02:29):
listen to the lead up to this election, you'll hear
some talking points coming from the gas lobbies themselves, and
they say, we need more gas. That's the talking point
from the gas lobby, and our politicians are yet to
really understand exactly what we punters are asking of them,
which is to work for us and not those sponsored
fuel execs, and not a future paycheck from a job
that you're maybe going to get when you finish office.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Mate, if you thought about getting into politics yourself, as
far as starting in your own party or because you
could probably get momentum, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I think I thought about it, and then very quickly
came to the solid conclusion of a hell not because
politicians are under so.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Much Screw mey they've got to chump through all of it. Hoops,
everyone's you know, you've got a lot of rules that
you've got to follow. I don't really like too many rules.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I like the freedom I've got, and I think there's
a gap in between what the politicians are doing and
how to bring the political conversation to everyday punters. And
I think helping punters understand what the bloody hell is
going on is probably where I'm most happy.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Conrad, can we unpack a little bit of who you are?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
How did you become interested in this, and what's your
credentials to know about this?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
My credentials as an Aussie punter, a card carrying Ozzie punters.
Just a regular bloke, millennial ex teacher. So I used
to teach an economic subjects, used to teach a bit
of pe and I was always simplifying complex issues to
shooters every single day. And one day I was teaching
an economics class and their kids will put them through
the textbook there and the kids noticed that we've slipped
(04:03):
on the rankings for like press freedom, you know, environmental
standards on everything. For ten years of government, we've slipped
and gone backwards on every single ranking, and that the
kids asked me, They're like, well.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Why is that? Does the government know we're going backwards?
Does the government know things are getting worse? Do they
know this?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
And that was the moment that really radicalized me that
when the government do know this? So why aren't they
working for us? So I went home sent a letter
to my mbabying like what do you want me to
tell them?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What do you want me to tell these kids? Because
if you want my honest of beIN in, it's because
you're working for corporate.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Bludges that don't pay tax, that just lobby you, and
you're not working for Rossie Fund and you're not working
for the shooters in my class.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And I've got a generic response back. And since then
I've just been making.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Videos online that seemed to strike a chord with regular
Ozzie punts.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So are you still teaching currently?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know? Listen I say I quit, They say I
was five. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Our parents apparently complain about my social media presence.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Who knows even the principle was like, yeah, I don't
know what they're.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Complaining about, but you know, parents are harder, had fast
masters to teachers.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So I have a lot of situations.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I'm here sitting with a year eight year old year
eight child, going, I'd love you to be teaching my
child these things.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'd love them to be interested in learning these things,
and they would be interested with a young, passionate teacher
like yourself, you would think.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
But then as you go to your parents teacher little events,
maybe as some of the parents there, if they would
have a wine, if their high school teacher suddenly had
four hundred thousand followers on Instagram, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Apparently that's the problem. Couldn't work it out.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
How else are we getting scammed? Do you think, like
for by the governments and the two parties? Really mostly.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I think at the core of every issue that we're
facing is the system is broken.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
The system has been set up a certain way to
benefit certain players.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And those players are the large monopolies and do wopolize
that control our economy. Those players are the big oil
and gas, Those players are housing investors.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They've rigged this system with their lobbyists over decades, and so.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
The system is working really well for them. Like look
at their profits. More works ten billions in profits. The
big four banks, there are oligopoli. There's a few of them,
and they control the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
They're doing really well.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
This system's working great, but for more and more of us,
it's not currently working. So in every important issue we're facing,
food prices, electricity prices, house prices.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Energy prices.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
These The at the core of this is a corporate machine,
often offshore, foreign owned, lobbying our politicians by giving them money,
lobbyists in their writing legislation. They own our media, so they.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Don't tell these stories. Because I think that's part of
the reason.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Why the stuff I'm saying is so popular, because most
corporate media aren't talking about it. I got I raised
over two I raised over eighty five thousand dollars with
two thousand regular Aussie hunters, put up seventeen billboards across
country and not a p from corporate.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Media around because this is the issue.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
They are protecting their financial interests and they don't want
to pay out what they are.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Let me have a look at the billboard, Tara, Can
you show it to me? Our social media marketer is
showing it to me. Why so small could be anything?
Genetics is awful, isn't it? No Oily aka that is
a great billboard.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Hey Ny you the patreons, my plunters on Patreon that
donate to me to.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Keep me going. They voted.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I said, do I have for my face on it?
And they said, yes, you do have at your faithless
So now my dumb marg is across the country pointing
out how small our royalty is compared to a smarter
country like Norway.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Norway has a.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Close to three trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund right because
of their oil, because they tax their oil at seventy
eight percent. We give our gas to these cartels for free,
and we do not have three trillion dollars and stuffer wealth.
In fact, we have billions in national debt that we're
young punts yes to pay later.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Is there a way we can change it? Like, is
it like if someone gets in, Is there a way
they can turn around and say to these people that
own these mining companies. Can we say, okay, you're not
paying tax because it's all offshore. Can we do a
tariff on weight of produce that's leaving the country or
(08:29):
something that they can't take anything without paying us?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, definitely, Like Norway essentially went through this exact thing.
Norway said all right, we're going to be co investors
in this resource because it's all.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Owned by the city. This is all that gas is
owned by everybody.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
And the Carfells kind of lose their mind and they're
going to tell you it's complicated.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They're going to tell you it's hard.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They said to the Noigi government, oh well, we'll just
leave and no one will be there to extract your oil.
And they're currently at a rate of seventy eight percent.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Right, that's what the Norwegian people.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Get from their oil and gas. And guess what they
said we leave. Guess what they didn't leave. They're still
their drill and gas. Because you know what, they'll take
a billion dollars in profit, even if they can't get
fifty billions in profit.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Because a billion it's still a lot of money. So
they're going to tell you it's hard. They're going to
talk down to punters like me, so, oh, you don't
get it.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Sovereign risk, it's all complicated, it's bloody not it's quite simple.
We have gas, we all collectively own it. We can
sell it to the US corporations, the Japanese corporations. But
there is a lot of interest pushing against that, so
you're going to hear it complicated, and I'm here to
just be the voice of reasons saying it's happened before
you eggheads, nerve number crunches. You're the guys that can
(09:39):
work out in the exact detail.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's not my job.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
My job is to know that it's simple and it
can be done, and we just have to set our
mind to it and stop listening to the lobbyists and
start listening to regularity punters.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, we voted you in. Do what we ask. That
is your job to do what we are.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Cool idea, I know, right, radical idea.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So there's two things I want to say.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
First of all, when you ca keep saying cartel, I
get a bit worried for you. I've watched enough movies
to know that you're speaking out against the cartel. Are
you worried about your personal safety?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And people often do ask me that because I'm a
laisse fair five by the seat of my pants kind
of blow.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Not really, but maybe I should be.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But honestly, at this point here, it's the regular of
these kinds that keep me safe. That's my audience slowly growth.
If I disappear, you'll have the answer to them. So
you know, my publicity is now my safety blanket. So
cheers for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now our pleasure.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So the second thing I had for you is we
are heading to an election.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Who that do we vote for?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, so's that's the question if you ask me. I
am very much voting on this idea of getting a
fair share of our resources, right, And so what I
do is I look at the voting records of the politicians.
I've got a website called day Vote for you dot com,
and I can see what.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
My politicians are voted for, so I can go to
feed it.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
UT's voting record anthy now an easy voting record, and
I can see, oh, Peter DUTs, he voted against capping
gas prices. He votes for mining tax cuts for mining organizations.
So I can easily rule out politicians based on their
voting records. So I try and not tell anyone who
they should vote for. But I think tick an issue
this one's mind. I look at voting records, and I
(11:19):
vote for the politicians that not only say they're going
to do something about getting out their share for our resources,
but actually vote for it and actually do something about it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Because but right, now.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Not even politicians are saying it because it's such an
unpopular thing for their lobbyist.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Group that they're too afraid to say it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Because as soon as they say we're going to start
taxing our resources, the mining machine in Australia will charge
up its propaganda machine like they did recently in Queensland
and do everything they can to make sure that the
government that's saying that is booted out. And I believe
that's why Albo is quite afraid of this. Wow.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Okay, it's so good talking to you, and I feel
like this so much more that you can unpack on
so many things that were affected by and again you're
saying that the solutions are easy.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But it's time.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
It's complicated the bat because they make it complicated because
they want to keep on winning.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah. It's the thing is I say it's easy because
our role is easy. Our role is to say, hey,
that's our gas, we're getting nothing for it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
We need to pay for it. Sure, it's complicated.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's the smarter people, economists and all these things to
come up with the rules so that these bludges can.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Stop not paying tax and can start actually paying tax
and can start paying for our resources.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
That part can be difficult, but we have the skill,
we have the education, we have the smart.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
People to do it. Our role is easy and we
just have to keep holding our politicians to account.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And you hear is what I will say. If you
hear a politician say quote, we need more gas, that's
the talking point from the gas lobby. We have so
much gas. It's not funny. We have so much gas.
We're exporting it to other countries like Japan who are
then they are exporting our gas for a profit.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's how much gas we have.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
So if a politician says we need more gas, that's
the cover so that the corporate lobbyists and the gas
companies can get more of our gas.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And export all of it because we are not even.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Five percent of our gas consumption. The rest is shift overseas.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Wow, we could talk to you forever, but we can
listen to all of these on your podcast What is It?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And the Punter is Politics podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
That's where we break down politics, make it simple for
the everyday punt up. People are going to try and
tell you politics is complicated. To make sure that you
don't engage and you don't pay attention and when you're
not at the table. These cartel lobbyists are sitting with
our politicians instead of us.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So yeah, you can listen.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
There been a pleasure, mate, great to meet.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Thank you.
And Conrad, Good morning and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Well, congratulations on your success. You're speaking truth and people
are jumping on board.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
They love you.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
I think the common wisdom is that people think that
ossies don't care about politics, but I think we'd be
talking about the wrong things. And when you're talking about
the right things, O, the planners actually do care.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
One of the things that I'm excited about is you're
getting a lot of young people interested in politics. For
a long time, it's been met and you're making it
simple for them to get and also uncovering things that
we don't even know about.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I think younger people are looking at their futures, and
they're looking at the systems that are functioning right now,
and they are not bloody working and they finish UNI,
they've gotten jobs that are looking at trying to get
it out and like, hang on, this system is rigged,
and we need to start talking about fishing the systems
rather than these little tinkering around the edges, throwing some
cash here and there. We need actual problems to be
(00:58):
solved so that we can actually have a future.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, I first came across you with the viral video
you made talking about taxation in Australia and if we
adopted perhaps United Emirates ideas that we wouldn't have as
high a taxation, if we could utilize our own research sources,
which we don't own.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Can you unpack that for everyone who may not have
seen that.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Well, yeah, that was the first video. They got like
four or five million views. That really struck a chord
with Audie Is because we're told we're this resource rich,
lucky nation.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Aren't we.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh, we're so rich, We're so rich, And that's true.
We export in one year more gas than to tire
export its TATI made seventy six billion.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We made two billion. Now do the math.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We exported more gas and we got close to Funerall.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's the technical amount we got.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And when it comes down to it, it needs kind
of gas bludgers. They're taking out gas and exporting it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
If they're not paying for what they're taking and they're
not paying taxes, which is true. Who otherwise let's hold
them a bag and picking up that, Well, it's worthy
of the punters.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, exactly. Do you think we can turn that around?
And how would we turn that around.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, I think we need our politicians to stop taking
their talking points from gas lobbyists who are in the
halls of Parliament the whole time. I've got my lobbying path,
I'm walking around, I'm seeing execs from all these gas corporations,
mining corporations, and then the politicians get jobs at these
same mining corporations after they make the rules. So there's
a whole system and structure that's then play that you
(02:29):
listen to the lead up to this election, you'll hear
some talking points coming from the gas lobbies themselves, and
they say, we need more gas. That's the talking point
from the gas lobby, and our politicians are yet to
really understand exactly what we punters are asking of them,
which is to work for us and not those sponsored
fuel execs, and not a future paycheck from a job
that you're maybe going to get when you finish office.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Mate, if you thought about getting into politics yourself, as
far as starting in your own party or because you
could probably get momentum, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I think I thought about it, and then very quickly
came to the solid conclusion of a hell not because
politicians are under so.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Much Screw mey they've got to chump through all of it. Hoops,
everyone's you know, you've got a lot of rules that
you've got to follow. I don't really like too many rules.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I like the freedom I've got, and I think there's
a gap in between what the politicians are doing and
how to bring the political conversation to everyday punters. And
I think helping punters understand what the bloody hell is
going on is probably where I'm most happy.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Conrad, can we unpack a little bit of who you are?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
How did you become interested in this, and what's your
credentials to know about this?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
My credentials as an Aussie punter, a card carrying Ozzie punters.
Just a regular bloke, millennial ex teacher. So I used
to teach an economic subjects, used to teach a bit
of pe and I was always simplifying complex issues to
shooters every single day. And one day I was teaching
an economics class and their kids will put them through
the textbook there and the kids noticed that we've slipped
(04:03):
on the rankings for like press freedom, you know, environmental
standards on everything. For ten years of government, we've slipped
and gone backwards on every single ranking, and that the
kids asked me, They're like, well.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Why is that? Does the government know we're going backwards?
Does the government know things are getting worse? Do they
know this?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
And that was the moment that really radicalized me that
when the government do know this? So why aren't they
working for us? So I went home sent a letter
to my mbabying like what do you want me to
tell them?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What do you want me to tell these kids? Because
if you want my honest of beIN in, it's because
you're working for corporate.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Bludges that don't pay tax, that just lobby you, and
you're not working for Rossie Fund and you're not working
for the shooters in my class.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And I've got a generic response back. And since then
I've just been making.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Videos online that seemed to strike a chord with regular
Ozzie punts.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So are you still teaching currently?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know? Listen I say I quit, They say I
was five. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Our parents apparently complain about my social media presence.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Who knows even the principle was like, yeah, I don't
know what they're.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Complaining about, but you know, parents are harder, had fast
masters to teachers.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So I have a lot of situations.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I'm here sitting with a year eight year old year
eight child, going, I'd love you to be teaching my
child these things.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'd love them to be interested in learning these things,
and they would be interested with a young, passionate teacher
like yourself, you would think.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
But then as you go to your parents teacher little events,
maybe as some of the parents there, if they would
have a wine, if their high school teacher suddenly had
four hundred thousand followers on Instagram, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Apparently that's the problem. Couldn't work it out.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
How else are we getting scammed? Do you think, like
for by the governments and the two parties? Really mostly.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I think at the core of every issue that we're
facing is the system is broken.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
The system has been set up a certain way to
benefit certain players.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And those players are the large monopolies and do wopolize
that control our economy. Those players are the big oil
and gas, Those players are housing investors.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They've rigged this system with their lobbyists over decades, and so.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
The system is working really well for them. Like look
at their profits. More works ten billions in profits. The
big four banks, there are oligopoli. There's a few of them,
and they control the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
They're doing really well.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
This system's working great, but for more and more of us,
it's not currently working. So in every important issue we're facing,
food prices, electricity prices, house prices.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Energy prices.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
These The at the core of this is a corporate machine,
often offshore, foreign owned, lobbying our politicians by giving them money,
lobbyists in their writing legislation. They own our media, so they.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Don't tell these stories. Because I think that's part of
the reason.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Why the stuff I'm saying is so popular, because most
corporate media aren't talking about it. I got I raised
over two I raised over eighty five thousand dollars with
two thousand regular Aussie hunters, put up seventeen billboards across
country and not a p from corporate.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Media around because this is the issue.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
They are protecting their financial interests and they don't want
to pay out what they are.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Let me have a look at the billboard, Tara, Can
you show it to me? Our social media marketer is
showing it to me. Why so small could be anything?
Genetics is awful, isn't it? No Oily aka that is
a great billboard.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Hey Ny you the patreons, my plunters on Patreon that
donate to me to.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Keep me going. They voted.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I said, do I have for my face on it?
And they said, yes, you do have at your faithless
So now my dumb marg is across the country pointing
out how small our royalty is compared to a smarter
country like Norway.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Norway has a.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Close to three trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund right because
of their oil, because they tax their oil at seventy
eight percent. We give our gas to these cartels for free,
and we do not have three trillion dollars and stuffer wealth.
In fact, we have billions in national debt that we're
young punts yes to pay later.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Is there a way we can change it? Like, is
it like if someone gets in, Is there a way
they can turn around and say to these people that
own these mining companies. Can we say, okay, you're not
paying tax because it's all offshore. Can we do a
tariff on weight of produce that's leaving the country or
(08:29):
something that they can't take anything without paying us?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, definitely, Like Norway essentially went through this exact thing.
Norway said all right, we're going to be co investors
in this resource because it's all.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Owned by the city. This is all that gas is
owned by everybody.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
And the Carfells kind of lose their mind and they're
going to tell you it's complicated.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They're going to tell you it's hard.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They said to the Noigi government, oh well, we'll just
leave and no one will be there to extract your oil.
And they're currently at a rate of seventy eight percent.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Right, that's what the Norwegian people.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Get from their oil and gas. And guess what they
said we leave. Guess what they didn't leave. They're still
their drill and gas. Because you know what, they'll take
a billion dollars in profit, even if they can't get
fifty billions in profit.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Because a billion it's still a lot of money. So
they're going to tell you it's hard. They're going to
talk down to punters like me, so, oh, you don't
get it.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Sovereign risk, it's all complicated, it's bloody not it's quite simple.
We have gas, we all collectively own it. We can
sell it to the US corporations, the Japanese corporations. But
there is a lot of interest pushing against that, so
you're going to hear it complicated, and I'm here to
just be the voice of reasons saying it's happened before
you eggheads, nerve number crunches. You're the guys that can
(09:39):
work out in the exact detail.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's not my job.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
My job is to know that it's simple and it
can be done, and we just have to set our
mind to it and stop listening to the lobbyists and
start listening to regularity punters.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, we voted you in. Do what we ask. That
is your job to do what we are.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Cool idea, I know, right, radical idea.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So there's two things I want to say.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
First of all, when you ca keep saying cartel, I
get a bit worried for you. I've watched enough movies
to know that you're speaking out against the cartel. Are
you worried about your personal safety?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And people often do ask me that because I'm a
laisse fair five by the seat of my pants kind
of blow.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Not really, but maybe I should be.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But honestly, at this point here, it's the regular of
these kinds that keep me safe. That's my audience slowly growth.
If I disappear, you'll have the answer to them. So
you know, my publicity is now my safety blanket. So
cheers for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now our pleasure.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So the second thing I had for you is we
are heading to an election.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Who that do we vote for?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, so's that's the question if you ask me. I
am very much voting on this idea of getting a
fair share of our resources, right, And so what I
do is I look at the voting records of the politicians.
I've got a website called day Vote for you dot com,
and I can see what.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
My politicians are voted for, so I can go to
feed it.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
UT's voting record anthy now an easy voting record, and
I can see, oh, Peter DUTs, he voted against capping
gas prices. He votes for mining tax cuts for mining organizations.
So I can easily rule out politicians based on their
voting records. So I try and not tell anyone who
they should vote for. But I think tick an issue
this one's mind. I look at voting records, and I
(11:19):
vote for the politicians that not only say they're going
to do something about getting out their share for our resources,
but actually vote for it and actually do something about it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Because but right, now.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Not even politicians are saying it because it's such an
unpopular thing for their lobbyist.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Group that they're too afraid to say it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Because as soon as they say we're going to start
taxing our resources, the mining machine in Australia will charge
up its propaganda machine like they did recently in Queensland
and do everything they can to make sure that the
government that's saying that is booted out. And I believe
that's why Albo is quite afraid of this. Wow.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Okay, it's so good talking to you, and I feel
like this so much more that you can unpack on
so many things that were affected by and again you're
saying that the solutions are easy.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But it's time.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
It's complicated the bat because they make it complicated because
they want to keep on winning.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah. It's the thing is I say it's easy because
our role is easy. Our role is to say, hey,
that's our gas, we're getting nothing for it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
We need to pay for it. Sure, it's complicated.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It's the smarter people, economists and all these things to
come up with the rules so that these bludges can.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Stop not paying tax and can start actually paying tax
and can start paying for our resources.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
That part can be difficult, but we have the skill,
we have the education, we have the smart.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
People to do it. Our role is easy and we
just have to keep holding our politicians to account.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And you hear is what I will say. If you
hear a politician say quote, we need more gas, that's
the talking point from the gas lobby. We have so
much gas. It's not funny. We have so much gas.
We're exporting it to other countries like Japan who are
then they are exporting our gas for a profit.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's how much gas we have.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
So if a politician says we need more gas, that's
the cover so that the corporate lobbyists and the gas
companies can get more of our gas.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And export all of it because we are not even.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Five percent of our gas consumption. The rest is shift overseas.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Wow, we could talk to you forever, but we can
listen to all of these on your podcast What is It?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And the Punter is Politics podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
That's where we break down politics, make it simple for
the everyday punt up. People are going to try and
tell you politics is complicated. To make sure that you
don't engage and you don't pay attention and when you're
not at the table. These cartel lobbyists are sitting with
our politicians instead of us.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So yeah, you can listen.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
There been a pleasure, mate, great to meet.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Thank you.
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