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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Jack, I live in Varsity Late and I'm thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And Tartar Kid's edition of Gayleen Emily Jade's Double and
I Think returned seven am Monday, eight am. For the
grown ups here at one, It's an un hot Tomato
with Gailey and Emily Jade and.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Talk about something really serious. We've lost another little Aussie
life to a parent leaving them in a car. This
has happened in Sydney this time, so it's the second
one in as many months in Australia. It was a dad.
He was driving to work and he forgot that his
baby was in the car.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Didn't normally take the baby.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Town routine broken and when he went to pick up
his daughter from daycare in the afternoon, they said she
wasn't left there today, And apparently immediately he knew what
had happened. And the trauma is going to live with
everybody on that day because he immediately just started screaming,
I've killed my baby and went into complete shock. A
(01:00):
little girl was one years old and her name was Olivia.
And I have such sympathy for these stories because I
had a baby once and I did leave her in
the car. I forgot she was luckily in our garage
and she was asleep in the car and I went
into autopilot, unpacked the car and then realized about an
hour so later, Oh my gosh, my baby. It can
(01:22):
happen so easily. And I don't think this is a
time for judging. It's a time for solutions because it's
happening too much and we live in a hot country. Now.
I have done some deep diving along with more than
our producer.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And there's a lot of judgment that goes with it,
isn't there? There is.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
There's so many people on these pages where the news
is have reported it saying I would never do that.
I would never do that, And unfortunately, because the last
two have been dads in Australia, there's a lot of
judgment on the dads. But there's neuroscience behind it, and
I wanted to share this. It's so important to get
your head around the neuroscience. So it's called forgotten baby syndrome.
(01:59):
And it isn't about love or priorities, or being a
bad parent, or whether it's a mother or a father,
but it's about how our brain processes routine. So if
you've ever driven somewhere and you've zoned out and you
just get to the next location, and it's a path
that you travel a lot to work to home and
you go, oh my gosh, I can barely even remember
driving home. So that's our neurological pathway is doing the
(02:20):
routine that we know well, and so we do go
into autopilot. Okay, But how the brain works under stress
and exhaustion, which is obviously a new baby, it's what
happens to all of us. So when the routine changes,
like a different parent driving them, their brain goes back
into the autopilot and does what the routine is. So
(02:43):
for this dad and the dad up in far North Queensland,
it's about I'm driving to work now, and went to work,
jumped out of the car, went did their day's work
and then realized the tragedy that had happened. So it's
the brain genuinely leaving that everything is as it should
be because you're doing the normal routine. You've got your
(03:05):
work clothes on, you've kissed the missus goodbye, and you've
jumped in the car and off you've gone. But here
is where we can help find the solutions just by
talking about it. All the people that say I would
never do that. Just by talking about this and letting
you know the neuroscience behind it, your brain immediately goes,
I must remember never to do that. And so hopefully
(03:27):
when you're.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Kind of almost like a neuro reminder, it is.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And you are less likely to experience something like being
on autopilot because the conversation brings awareness to your brain.
So it's important for us to have these conversations on
air for everyone to make them.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Reprogram, reprogram.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So that's a great thing that we can do by
helping by saying, he's a neuroscience behind it. Do tell
yourself you will never do that, and then start thinking
of practices to help you not do that. And we've
talked about this on air before, but I thought it
might be nice to open it up up. What did
you do to not have forgotten baby syndrome? So I
know some people that put like a scarf over their mirror,
(04:09):
so they jump out of the car, they put the
scarf on the mirror, and that makes that process, makes
them go, Okay, I've got the baby in the back
of the car.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Little things.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
They're also aware that it's quite possible they could forget
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You do that you're tired, You've had a whole great
life beforehand, and then you have this baby and everything's
topsy turvy and.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It doesn't take long. So that's a heated car.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, that's right now. The other thing is like I've
got a Tesla and Tesla has puppy the puppy mode,
So when you jump out of the car, if you've
got your dog in the car, you press puppy mode
and then the airconn stays on the whole time, and
it's at like twenty degrees through one degrees. I reckon
Tesla being who they are, they should invent movement in
the car. So if there's any movement in the car
(04:57):
when you've shut the car up, then immediately the air
conc okay, so in case you haven't pressed the puppy mode,
any type of movement and then the aircon turns on
and then a sense of alert to your phone that
says there's movement in your car. Because my Tesla tells
me when I haven't locked it, So why shouldn't it
tell me if there's movement in the car.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Should there be maybe a mode that you could put
into baby on board. So when you're getting the car,
you put baby on board in the car and then
it has reactions to if it's not released.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Great idea, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So, and that would give you a mind up. For instance,
the doors won't open, Yes, the doors won't open if
the baby on bread buttons.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
There are cars that have this. I think your car
mon't have it alo where if you've opened the back
door when you jump out of the car, it flashes
or something.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, it just says check your rear seats.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But admittedly it does that every time I turn the
car off, So that just becomes noise like any of
the other beats.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So it's not a fool proof. So you could still
forget because it's just a routine.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What do you think more, You've got a baby, so
this would be really you've got a baby the same age,
so this would be a fear you'd have.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, this is nuts. So just thinking out loud and
just thinking of schools, like if Teddy or Millie didn't
rock up at school, do you get an email?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I do around about eleven o'clock. I get the your
child's absent and you haven't let us know.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
So why aren't we receiving that from childcare centers to
say where are the babies today? They were booked in today,
Where are they?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I would say, because babies are so often sick.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
But still a call or an email could save a
baby's life. Absolutely rue center. If I was a director,
that is something I would implement for an admin assistant
to do that could essentially save a life.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's right. But also it's checking in with a parent.
Your child's not here today, are uoka?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yep? And a lot of the times I know that
when Coin went to daycare if he was sick, I
had to mark him absent on the app, so they
know that your child is sick. So if there's no
correspondence whatsoever, the question needs to be asked, where is
that child?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Absolutely well, that's something that could be a policy thing,
something that could run through government. You've hurt our suggestions,
If you could join the conversation, if you have any
suggestions anything. You know people are already trying, and let's
let's try and stop this from happening. It's double five seven,
one nine, give us call
Hi, I'm Jack, I live in Varsity Late and I'm thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And Tartar Kid's edition of Gayleen Emily Jade's Double and
I Think returned seven am Monday, eight am. For the
grown ups here at one, It's an un hot Tomato
with Gailey and Emily Jade and.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Talk about something really serious. We've lost another little Aussie
life to a parent leaving them in a car. This
has happened in Sydney this time, so it's the second
one in as many months in Australia. It was a dad.
He was driving to work and he forgot that his
baby was in the car.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Didn't normally take the baby.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Town routine broken and when he went to pick up
his daughter from daycare in the afternoon, they said she
wasn't left there today, And apparently immediately he knew what
had happened. And the trauma is going to live with
everybody on that day because he immediately just started screaming,
I've killed my baby and went into complete shock. A
(01:00):
little girl was one years old and her name was Olivia.
And I have such sympathy for these stories because I
had a baby once and I did leave her in
the car. I forgot she was luckily in our garage
and she was asleep in the car and I went
into autopilot, unpacked the car and then realized about an
hour so later, Oh my gosh, my baby. It can
(01:22):
happen so easily. And I don't think this is a
time for judging. It's a time for solutions because it's
happening too much and we live in a hot country. Now.
I have done some deep diving along with more than
our producer.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And there's a lot of judgment that goes with it,
isn't there? There is.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
There's so many people on these pages where the news
is have reported it saying I would never do that.
I would never do that, And unfortunately, because the last
two have been dads in Australia, there's a lot of
judgment on the dads. But there's neuroscience behind it, and
I wanted to share this. It's so important to get
your head around the neuroscience. So it's called forgotten baby syndrome.
(01:59):
And it isn't about love or priorities, or being a
bad parent, or whether it's a mother or a father,
but it's about how our brain processes routine. So if
you've ever driven somewhere and you've zoned out and you
just get to the next location, and it's a path
that you travel a lot to work to home and
you go, oh my gosh, I can barely even remember
driving home. So that's our neurological pathway is doing the
(02:20):
routine that we know well, and so we do go
into autopilot. Okay, But how the brain works under stress
and exhaustion, which is obviously a new baby, it's what
happens to all of us. So when the routine changes,
like a different parent driving them, their brain goes back
into the autopilot and does what the routine is. So
(02:43):
for this dad and the dad up in far North Queensland,
it's about I'm driving to work now, and went to work,
jumped out of the car, went did their day's work
and then realized the tragedy that had happened. So it's
the brain genuinely leaving that everything is as it should
be because you're doing the normal routine. You've got your
(03:05):
work clothes on, you've kissed the missus goodbye, and you've
jumped in the car and off you've gone. But here
is where we can help find the solutions just by
talking about it. All the people that say I would
never do that. Just by talking about this and letting
you know the neuroscience behind it, your brain immediately goes,
I must remember never to do that. And so hopefully
(03:27):
when you're.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Kind of almost like a neuro reminder, it is.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And you are less likely to experience something like being
on autopilot because the conversation brings awareness to your brain.
So it's important for us to have these conversations on
air for everyone to make them.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Reprogram, reprogram.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So that's a great thing that we can do by
helping by saying, he's a neuroscience behind it. Do tell
yourself you will never do that, and then start thinking
of practices to help you not do that. And we've
talked about this on air before, but I thought it
might be nice to open it up up. What did
you do to not have forgotten baby syndrome? So I
know some people that put like a scarf over their mirror,
(04:09):
so they jump out of the car, they put the
scarf on the mirror, and that makes that process, makes
them go, Okay, I've got the baby in the back
of the car.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Little things.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
They're also aware that it's quite possible they could forget
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You do that you're tired, You've had a whole great
life beforehand, and then you have this baby and everything's
topsy turvy and.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It doesn't take long. So that's a heated car.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, that's right now. The other thing is like I've
got a Tesla and Tesla has puppy the puppy mode,
So when you jump out of the car, if you've
got your dog in the car, you press puppy mode
and then the airconn stays on the whole time, and
it's at like twenty degrees through one degrees. I reckon
Tesla being who they are, they should invent movement in
the car. So if there's any movement in the car
(04:57):
when you've shut the car up, then immediately the air
conc okay, so in case you haven't pressed the puppy mode,
any type of movement and then the aircon turns on
and then a sense of alert to your phone that
says there's movement in your car. Because my Tesla tells
me when I haven't locked it, So why shouldn't it
tell me if there's movement in the car.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Should there be maybe a mode that you could put
into baby on board. So when you're getting the car,
you put baby on board in the car and then
it has reactions to if it's not released.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Great idea, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So, and that would give you a mind up. For instance,
the doors won't open, Yes, the doors won't open if
the baby on bread buttons.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
There are cars that have this. I think your car
mon't have it alo where if you've opened the back
door when you jump out of the car, it flashes
or something.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, it just says check your rear seats.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But admittedly it does that every time I turn the
car off, So that just becomes noise like any of
the other beats.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So it's not a fool proof. So you could still
forget because it's just a routine.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What do you think more, You've got a baby, so
this would be really you've got a baby the same age,
so this would be a fear you'd have.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, this is nuts. So just thinking out loud and
just thinking of schools, like if Teddy or Millie didn't
rock up at school, do you get an email?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I do around about eleven o'clock. I get the your
child's absent and you haven't let us know.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
So why aren't we receiving that from childcare centers to
say where are the babies today? They were booked in today,
Where are they?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I would say, because babies are so often sick.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
But still a call or an email could save a
baby's life. Absolutely rue center. If I was a director,
that is something I would implement for an admin assistant
to do that could essentially save a life.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's right. But also it's checking in with a parent.
Your child's not here today, are uoka?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yep? And a lot of the times I know that
when Coin went to daycare if he was sick, I
had to mark him absent on the app, so they
know that your child is sick. So if there's no
correspondence whatsoever, the question needs to be asked, where is
that child?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Absolutely well, that's something that could be a policy thing,
something that could run through government. You've hurt our suggestions,
If you could join the conversation, if you have any
suggestions anything. You know people are already trying, and let's
let's try and stop this from happening. It's double five seven,
one nine, give us call
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