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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Spare room tax.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is outrageous, like even the thought of it.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
If you haven't heard about it.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Ozzi researchers who help us work out where we can
find a little bit of extra money out of OSSI's
have started talking about bringing in a spare room tax.
They think that if these extra bedrooms are empty, we'll
put a tax on them because it will encourage people
to downsize. So they want people who are not using
them to downsize, to free up homes so we can
(00:29):
help the housing crisis.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Talk about control though, so controlling you have control, you're
not using it. So this is what we're going to do.
It's like but they're saying that, but basically it's this
is free.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Money, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So this is what they're saying. Six percent of Bozzi
households are just one to two people, but three quarters
of homes have three bedrooms or more. So there is
a mismatch, they say, between homes and the size of
our families. Right now we are having smaller families, and
so the idea is to get the empty nesters rattling
around those five bedrooms homes out and then free up housing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
For the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
The thing is, though, Ossie's are going crazy over it,
of course, and they're saying those rooms are not wasted
there for the grandkids, for the sewing machines or just
folded laundry.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And it's their right to do what they want with
their house. They pay for it home.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You do what you want with your home. If you
have ten bedrooms whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't think it can be. They can't make that
legal count.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
View tax came in, okay, yeah, so let's not let's
not just say that can't happen now. Albanezy has said
he won't bring in any new taxes until the next election,
so that's twenty twenty eight, so we're safe until twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
However, they're not not ruling it out.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And Senator Sarah Henderson just said this in Parliament I
think two days ago.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
The proposal to tax the spare bedroom to solve the
housing crisis in this country was not ruled out today
by this government. So now, of course, off the back
of the study which showed that just over sixty percent
of houses are lived in by one or two people,
with more than three quarters of properties with three bedrooms
(02:07):
or more, the Labor Party is now opening the gates
to the discussion about a spare bedroom tax.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Do you just make up that you've got someone in
the bedroom and they go, are you using that bedroom?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And you just go, yeah, John O's in it?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, because then it has to be someone you know,
like as in a family member, because otherwise they might
get you for renting it out right, So that's another
thing that they can get. And already in Victoria they
are getting small businesses that are working from home. They've
already put a tax on people's homes there. There's about
four hundred small businesses that were shocked with a tax
(02:47):
because they were using their home as their business. Okay,
so it's like for us, for me, my housmand sleeps
in one bedroom and nicely been another because he snores.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So is that a spare room or not? Like, what
is that technically.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Calls spare room? You just say that's that's our.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Room, that's his room, and that's my room.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Does that then mean if they don't believe me that
they're going to have people coming and knocking on the
doors and saying, well, we're going to have to watch
your husband's sleep to make sure he's really in there.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's like sports drug testing. They can turn up at
any time. Imagine that sleep taxation department. Bang bang, yeah, exactly,
quick positions everyone.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Hey Mayvi's queen borrow Barry, Yeah exactly, Berry jump the fence.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Christmas decorations out of the share room. I swear it's
not the wrapping room. Someone actually sleeps in there.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
See it's Barry.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
What do you think of his spare room tax? Are
you outraged? And what do you actually have in your
spare room?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Because people have spare rooms because they need to put
spare things in there.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Stuff that's for my other husband.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well for me, it's for my actual husband because he
snores and he's got the sea put machine and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Kind of a spare room that's called the doghouse.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's called I'm saving my marriage, Jaydon, what's in your
spare room?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And what do you think of this tax?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Look up for a spare bedroom. But I snore and
I sleep in it. But anyway, But the other thing
is the government's causing the causing the problem in the
first place. We are importing one hundred and eighty five
thousand people a year into Australia. The spare bedroom didn't
cause cause the problem. With the housing Cristis that was
a government. So let's let's look a bit more in
(04:26):
the mirror, and people that voted for them need to
also look in the mirror too.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Thank you, Jacob, got a mirror in your spare room,
Go in there and have a.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Look at it. Yeah, Mark, Rovarsity Lakes, what are you thinking? Mark?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Hey, guys, I was looking at it the opposite. So
if we're in a house, let's say a family of
four and it's only a two bedroom house, do I
get a tax break?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I'd love a more confusing tax system. I think it's
too easy to navigate right now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'd love more.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Imagine when you're doing your tax return, you're talking to
your account and are going I live in a tent. Yeah,
what happens now we're going to Donna from pimpamat Donna.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
What about you with the room tax? Spare room tax?
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Well, my question is it's the idea of it is
to make room for everyone with a family. Where are
all the rest of us supposed to find these smaller
homes because nobody can buy a home.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
No, that's right, Yeah, they're talking about apartments. But if
you think about apartments, they're often built, you know, beachfront
not going to fall there, right, they're all empty. Is
there a housing crisis? No, I'm telling you when you
go to the Gold Coast skyline and you have a
look at some of those high rises, the lights are off.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think you guys all know what I mean. There
are people buying our apartments and not living in them.
There's the housing crisis solved. Just say if you haven't
lived in it for twelve months, we're moving in a family.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
We're giving it away.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Do you get to win the duwel? All right?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okayther from Upacoomera, what do you want to say about this?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just think it's silly that you work so hard
for stuff for your family and then.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
You just want the government to take it away from here.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So what what's your spare room?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's a closet for oversized clothes or jackets and also.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Those silly miscellaneous boxes that you're going to get to
but you just don't exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, that's the Australian way. They're taking away our yeah, yeah,
our identity.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
They're taking away out. I'll fit into those clothes one day.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Room.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let what do you think what's your spare room used for?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Okay, so my spare room used to contain my mother
in law now contains a giant hot Wheels truck which
goes from the roof to the floor.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Wow, that's amazing. You're the problem. How do you explain
that to the ato? You just have to bring currently renting,
So it's going to be fun when I have to
move and make it all apart.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And you just bring your mother in law in and
squeak a little bit in between the hot Wheels track
and when they come in and assess you, the wheels
are going around while she's line.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They're trying to have a sleep.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's if she's still.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Makes there's not enough room.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's not enough room for a brother in law.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That's what we all say to believe she's in there
playing with the hot wheels.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Now, Lee, if you got kids, who's the hot wheels
track yours?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's for my eight year old son and myself.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Right, Okay, Well we'll give you the family pass to
the Hot Tomato preview of the Pink Flamingos Circus Fun House.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Oh awesome, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's coming back.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
For some school holiday fun and by a popular Demand.
You can get your tickets a Pink Flamingo gold Coast
dot com. Thanks Lee, you're telling but what's your.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, you've got friend in me.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Actually we're still getting calls on it, so we've got
to wrap up the show. But maybe we'll record them
all and continue to row because Leanne's called through saying
they've already done in the UK, so I want to
hear how that's stepped out over there.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's why they were coming here and that's why everyone
there's a shortage of housing. It's their fault, the UK
government have stuffed us up again, have her crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So we're convicts Thursday, everyone.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Leave, coming in next to twenty song and to write
music marathon and a chance to win free Field and
you've got
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Bad Gaily and Emily J.
Spare room tax.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is outrageous, like even the thought of it.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
If you haven't heard about it.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Ozzi researchers who help us work out where we can
find a little bit of extra money out of OSSI's
have started talking about bringing in a spare room tax.
They think that if these extra bedrooms are empty, we'll
put a tax on them because it will encourage people
to downsize. So they want people who are not using
them to downsize, to free up homes so we can
(00:29):
help the housing crisis.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Talk about control though, so controlling you have control, you're
not using it. So this is what we're going to do.
It's like but they're saying that, but basically it's this
is free.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Money, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So this is what they're saying. Six percent of Bozzi
households are just one to two people, but three quarters
of homes have three bedrooms or more. So there is
a mismatch, they say, between homes and the size of
our families. Right now we are having smaller families, and
so the idea is to get the empty nesters rattling
around those five bedrooms homes out and then free up housing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
For the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
The thing is, though, Ossie's are going crazy over it,
of course, and they're saying those rooms are not wasted
there for the grandkids, for the sewing machines or just
folded laundry.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And it's their right to do what they want with
their house. They pay for it home.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You do what you want with your home. If you
have ten bedrooms whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't think it can be. They can't make that
legal count.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
View tax came in, okay, yeah, so let's not let's
not just say that can't happen now. Albanezy has said
he won't bring in any new taxes until the next election,
so that's twenty twenty eight, so we're safe until twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
However, they're not not ruling it out.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And Senator Sarah Henderson just said this in Parliament I
think two days ago.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
The proposal to tax the spare bedroom to solve the
housing crisis in this country was not ruled out today
by this government. So now, of course, off the back
of the study which showed that just over sixty percent
of houses are lived in by one or two people,
with more than three quarters of properties with three bedrooms
(02:07):
or more, the Labor Party is now opening the gates
to the discussion about a spare bedroom tax.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Do you just make up that you've got someone in
the bedroom and they go, are you using that bedroom?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And you just go, yeah, John O's in it?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, because then it has to be someone you know,
like as in a family member, because otherwise they might
get you for renting it out right, So that's another
thing that they can get. And already in Victoria they
are getting small businesses that are working from home. They've
already put a tax on people's homes there. There's about
four hundred small businesses that were shocked with a tax
(02:47):
because they were using their home as their business. Okay,
so it's like for us, for me, my housmand sleeps
in one bedroom and nicely been another because he snores.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So is that a spare room or not? Like, what
is that technically.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Calls spare room? You just say that's that's our.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Room, that's his room, and that's my room.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Does that then mean if they don't believe me that
they're going to have people coming and knocking on the
doors and saying, well, we're going to have to watch
your husband's sleep to make sure he's really in there.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's like sports drug testing. They can turn up at
any time. Imagine that sleep taxation department. Bang bang, yeah, exactly,
quick positions everyone.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Hey Mayvi's queen borrow Barry, Yeah exactly, Berry jump the fence.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Christmas decorations out of the share room. I swear it's
not the wrapping room. Someone actually sleeps in there.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
See it's Barry.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
What do you think of his spare room tax? Are
you outraged? And what do you actually have in your
spare room?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Because people have spare rooms because they need to put
spare things in there.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Stuff that's for my other husband.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well for me, it's for my actual husband because he
snores and he's got the sea put machine and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Kind of a spare room that's called the doghouse.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's called I'm saving my marriage, Jaydon, what's in your
spare room?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And what do you think of this tax?
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Look up for a spare bedroom. But I snore and
I sleep in it. But anyway, But the other thing
is the government's causing the causing the problem in the
first place. We are importing one hundred and eighty five
thousand people a year into Australia. The spare bedroom didn't
cause cause the problem. With the housing Cristis that was
a government. So let's let's look a bit more in
(04:26):
the mirror, and people that voted for them need to
also look in the mirror too.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Thank you, Jacob, got a mirror in your spare room,
Go in there and have a.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Look at it. Yeah, Mark, Rovarsity Lakes, what are you thinking? Mark?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Hey, guys, I was looking at it the opposite. So
if we're in a house, let's say a family of
four and it's only a two bedroom house, do I
get a tax break?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I'd love a more confusing tax system. I think it's
too easy to navigate right now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'd love more.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Imagine when you're doing your tax return, you're talking to
your account and are going I live in a tent. Yeah,
what happens now we're going to Donna from pimpamat Donna.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
What about you with the room tax? Spare room tax?
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Well, my question is it's the idea of it is
to make room for everyone with a family. Where are
all the rest of us supposed to find these smaller
homes because nobody can buy a home.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
No, that's right, Yeah, they're talking about apartments. But if
you think about apartments, they're often built, you know, beachfront
not going to fall there, right, they're all empty. Is
there a housing crisis? No, I'm telling you when you
go to the Gold Coast skyline and you have a
look at some of those high rises, the lights are off.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think you guys all know what I mean. There
are people buying our apartments and not living in them.
There's the housing crisis solved. Just say if you haven't
lived in it for twelve months, we're moving in a family.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
We're giving it away.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Do you get to win the duwel? All right?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okayther from Upacoomera, what do you want to say about this?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just think it's silly that you work so hard
for stuff for your family and then.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
You just want the government to take it away from here.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So what what's your spare room?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's a closet for oversized clothes or jackets and also.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Those silly miscellaneous boxes that you're going to get to
but you just don't exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, that's the Australian way. They're taking away our yeah, yeah,
our identity.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
They're taking away out. I'll fit into those clothes one day.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Room.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Let what do you think what's your spare room used for?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Okay, so my spare room used to contain my mother
in law now contains a giant hot Wheels truck which
goes from the roof to the floor.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Wow, that's amazing. You're the problem. How do you explain
that to the ato? You just have to bring currently renting,
So it's going to be fun when I have to
move and make it all apart.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And you just bring your mother in law in and
squeak a little bit in between the hot Wheels track
and when they come in and assess you, the wheels
are going around while she's line.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They're trying to have a sleep.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's if she's still.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Makes there's not enough room.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
There's not enough room for a brother in law.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That's what we all say to believe she's in there
playing with the hot wheels.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Now, Lee, if you got kids, who's the hot wheels
track yours?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It's for my eight year old son and myself.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Right, Okay, Well we'll give you the family pass to
the Hot Tomato preview of the Pink Flamingos Circus Fun House.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Oh awesome, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's coming back.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
For some school holiday fun and by a popular Demand.
You can get your tickets a Pink Flamingo gold Coast
dot com. Thanks Lee, you're telling but what's your.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, you've got friend in me.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Actually we're still getting calls on it, so we've got
to wrap up the show. But maybe we'll record them
all and continue to row because Leanne's called through saying
they've already done in the UK, so I want to
hear how that's stepped out over there.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's why they were coming here and that's why everyone
there's a shortage of housing. It's their fault, the UK
government have stuffed us up again, have her crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So we're convicts Thursday, everyone.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Leave, coming in next to twenty song and to write
music marathon and a chance to win free Field and
you've got
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Bad Gaily and Emily J.
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