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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Trent Dalton, Welcome to the Studio's Tomato Gang.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Thank you so much for having me. It's so great
to be in your space. This is where the magic happens.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yeah, there's lots of magic.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Our space isn't that great, but thank you. You're very polite.
Speaker 5 (00:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I have been seeing Love stories in the posters for
it around town, and then we found that you were
producing monit organize you to come and I was like, no, no, no,
it's not gonna be Trent because it's a play about
Trent and his book Love.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Sorry, surely it's the actor. And she's like, no, it's Trent.
And I was like, oh my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So what's the deal because you're here, but you're not
on the billboards and it's a play but you're not
in it.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, it's and you know what, I could. I feel
like I could like I know it so well because
I was there. I was the original storyteller. In many ways,
the whole play is based on this incredible odyssey I
did where I well, I stayed in one place, but
it was an odyssey of storytelling.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
You have to share that just in case people don't know, Oh, well.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
This beautiful thing happened where my best mate is this
guy named Greg Kelly. Just everyone should have a Greg
Kelly in your life, and that's just one of those mates.
He'll just like, you know this guy my dad passed
away in like twenty sixteen, Well I call him Kell,
Greg Kelly, Irish guy. And Kel's the type of friend
who will text me after a Broncos win and he'll
say something like your dad would have liked that one.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
And he's that type of friend, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And so his beautiful mum was this incredible, feisty Irish
Catholic woman who whose best friend for her was a
sky blue Olivetti typewriter from the nineteen seventies. And kath
used this typewriter to write letters to like heads of
churches and to school principles into like newspaper editors fighting
for women's rights and civil rights.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
And it's a really incredible woman.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
This amazing woman passed away on Christmas Day twenty twenty
just in the heart of like COVID and we went
to Cat's funeral and we're in the back of the
car park at Albany Creek Memorial Park. Who listeners would
know that place and we were toasting Cath. We're drinking
these four x gold cans. It was like thirty can
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ends in her downstairs fridge that she insisted we drink
in her honor because she didn't get to drink him
before she was rushed to hospital. And I turned to
Kel and I said, mate, I've got.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
To tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Your mum used to type me letters on her typewrite
when I was working at the Courier Male with you
and and and she would say things like keep going,
like go deeper, go. And I turned to Kel and
I said, mate, I think your letters inspired me to
write your letters from your Those letters from your mum
inspired me to write Boyce Wall's Universe, the book that
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absolutely changed my life. And he calls me, trenis this Kell,
And he goes, that's all right, Tryna.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
He puts his beer down.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
He opens up his Subaru and he leans into the
back of his car and he said, she had another
request on her desk.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Butt, I'm going to get emotional.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
And yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Crying when this happened. And he leaned into the back
of his car and he pulls out Kath Kelly's sky
blue Olavetti typewriter and he hands it to me Ni ghosts.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
She wanted you to have a trap. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And it was the most beautiful gift and we came
out of But COVID wasn't that bad for us up here,
but you know it was bad enough. And we came
out of all that and you could talk to people again,
you know, you can get face to face and a
cor kel. I said, listen, mate, there's no better thing
I could do is to write some stories on your
mum's typewriter. And I said, would your mind if I
took this sacred object, this thing that is up there
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with like Eddie van Halen's guitar, as far as I'm concerned,
And I said, would you mind if I took that
out onto the busiest corner of Brisbane, corner of Adelaide
and Albert Street.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
I'll have a desk, I'll have a.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Sign saying sentimental writer collecting love stories. Do you have
one to share? And I'll sit there for two months
and until I've got enough.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Stories for a book. And that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
These absolute strangers, many of whom are from this beautiful
city of the Gold Coast stopped by.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
We were on visiting Brisbane.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They stopped by and told me stories and I just
could not believe all these stories of grief and story
of love and stories of romance and love lost, and
sixty five year old Burley Queensland Blakes.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Going, no, mate, I don't know about love.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And I go, why don't you tell me about your mum?
And then they'd be crying in five minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It was just the most amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's what we've turned into a play, you know, So
we're going to be seeing those real life love stories
like told verbatim. I'm sullied by any screen scriptwriter or anything.
It's it's real life quotes of stories told by real
life Queenslanders on stage at Hotter and it's the most
emotional thing you should see.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
It's like so deep.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
How important is it to get the actors right that
are coming in. I'm picturing that the play will be
the person playing you sitting there with the typewriter and
then the actor comes in.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What are you like some theater Geeus that you nailed
it exactly exactly, Well a matter of fact, I am,
that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And so I would say it's important for the actors
coming in because you'll have impact with one story and
one actor's performance, So the next one's going to come
in and that story has to be strong, but their
performance has to be equal or better.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh wow, yeah, you're so right, and that we need
these actors to honor the real life.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
People who are in the audience.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yes, like there's a couple of storyteller they're coming, you know,
they're bringing their friends and going that's me on stage.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
So the actor is literally looking down at the person
whose story they're telling. Wow, it's quite a wild thing,
but you're so right. That was a big thing.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
There's this ensemble of about ten actors playing what amounts
to about fifty different stories. But the key thing was
what's our through line? How do we knit this together
and make it a really nice piece of theater. And
then that's when I had to kind of come clean.
So the big secret, the other big reason that I
was on that corner. You know, it was almost me
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asking myself what compels the guy to sit on a
corner like that and do that exercise.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
For two months?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And I was like, ah, there's probably some things I
needed to fix on my own marriage, you know, and
I was like, okay, and then I spoke to my
wife Fiana was like, what if we just went for it.
What if we just kind of created these kind of
two characters at the center of it, essentially the husband
and the wife, one being very much me and one
the other being a kind of amplified version of my
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wife Fiona. And then she's like, all right, I'm up
for it. I'll write them with you.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Is your marriage? I came out, by the way, that's
such a good question.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And it's like, but it is. You said no, that
was some liminal just because it's never that.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You know, marriage is hard.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, thank you. That's what we're getting out.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Actually, that's what the whole play reveals, you know. It's
so we sat down with our laptops. So basically the
scriptwriter and the director, the director Sam sam Strong and
scriptwriter Tim Gairy, they said, you write those bits, you
two write those and we got it, and I got
our laptops. We went to all these bars and we
sat down and we went back over twenty five years
of marriage. Wow, and it was pretty wild, like it
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was just every argument we ever had or everything we
never resolved and every conflict but every beautiful thing as well,
and like looking back, like that's two kids, you know,
eighteen and sixteen and everything that comes with that, and
it was so I really want to answer a question.
Because of this exercise, the marriage has never been better
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in all honesty, Like, it's amazing that because.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
She's writing, she's writing an amplified version of you. So
when you're going through you're going through real stuff that's happened,
but her character isn't exactly her. It's amplified right exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
So it's kind of that allowed us to go into
places that speak to a lot of.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yes women and also more entertainment.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
And and go hardcore.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So it goes very dramatic, like it has this amazing turn,
this play, and I love it when.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
People realize how serious it can.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Get and they go, oh, I'm actually sort of inside
something confessional now, and that becomes.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Really powerful theater.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But this beautiful thing happened in the Brisbane opening night.
I'll never forget it. I sink into them. I'm so
embarrassed by it.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I'm just sinking down and going I'm far out. This
is too close to the bone.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But at the very end, there's this amazing realization where
you know, love kind of wins and and fee stood up.
My wife stands up. She's no, you know, she's not
a you know, she's a journo, but she's not sort
of you know, often putting herself out there, maybe the
way I do. But she stands up, you know, furtively,
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and just these eight women grabbed her and just went,
this is my story.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Thank you for telling my story. I could not believe it.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And then we went to the bar across the road.
All these women mobbed her and just went, I am
going home to talk to my husband. Now my husband
is getting a.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Talking to you. I'm so sorry, but that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So you love by women and hated by men? Well done.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I got to ask the question though Boyce follows Universe.
It was just such a success.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I watched it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I had to watch it once on my own to
make sure it was okay for my daughter to watch it.
Then I watched it with her. She wanted to watch
it like a third time, and it is. I will
watch it a third time. Is this going to be
made into a Netflix series as well?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Such a great What about your other books?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Mirror to see that as a Netflix to say.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Hot Tomato was on boy from the story we were Honestly,
I cannot thank you enough. You have been so supportive
of my writing and I just you know, you're an
amazing human being, So thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes, I know I agree with you. You don't see
her every day, but that's okay. But she was, she
was onto it. She was talking about it before it
came out. She was talking about it as a book,
and she was talking about it when it was going
to come out. But then we were all hooked. And
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then we watched it and as I just told you
off air, how you couldn't stop watching it to the
early hours of the morning till two o'clock. We're there,
I'm with and my partner. And then the next morning
she's speaking to a sister who lives in Melbourne, and
her sister was said, I'm sorry, I'm tired, and she
said why and she said, well, I've binge watched Boys, yeah,
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Universe while I was Universe, and I've binge watched until
five in the morning, so we were watching it all
at the same time.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Can I tell you about the Biggest Loser on Friday
night after the Broncos game. I tend that show on
I do. I regularly do it, and it's so embarrassing.
I go to just I flick to just certain parts.
I go to all the just the sweet, boring bits
where the boys are like just playing with their dad
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and their dad's like super sweet, and I go.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
To this bit.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
This is in all honesty, I go to this bit
at the very end of that whole show. It's not
even a spoiler. The whole thing ends just with a
simple Tuesday night dinner in the suburbs where everything's quiet
and beautiful, and the mom and dad are back together
and the two boys who were totally inspired, you know,
in absolute amalgams of me and my three older brothers,
and they're just having dinner and it was just like,
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I'm like this loser, And I shuffle to it and
I sit back and I just like.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I start crying for like two minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, because it's just like everything I ever dreamed of
just having, just having that family.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But isn't it funny? So that's you're looking at it,
at being proud of that performance and seeing it, But
on a deeper level, you're just going back to your child,
going back to your childhood.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh man, and this, Oh well, Bailey, I'm the most
beautiful things have happened with that. My my she's now eighteen,
but my eldest daughter watched it when she was sixteen,
and she now understands where her grandparents were coming from.
She understands why her papa like had social anxiety issues, you.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's just bizarre to have all those lessons come from
a Netflix streaming show. It's the most bizarre thing.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
But are the other shows going to be?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And it's question, Yeah, yeah, Lola's been picked up, Yeah yeah, yeah,
and these these that's a sort of yeah, kick that
among you, just you and your listeners, but.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Yeah, yeah, just kick.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Around that. Never read Lalla in the Mirror. It could
not be more poignant.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Remember I just helped out an amazing charity called The
Forgotten Women, and it's about women over the age of
fifty five who are homeless. And your whole book captures
women who are homeless.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
And why doing that?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
You're doing?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, but it's a it's a poignant story right now, right.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I mean, the multiple it's been I couldn't believe how
how relevant that that story just kept on getting, you know,
as as the.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Housing crisis got worse.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And absolutely that story reflects women running from violence, reflects
women who have been abandoned by husbands, women who who
the most amazing, mums who find themselves in cars with
two kids doing athletics. You know.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I just man, I've seen that in Brisbane, I see
it on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's real and I just felt very proud that Lola
reflects that world and tells you a little bit about,
you know, the identity. The whole books about identity. It's
it's about the identity of the people who fall through
the cracks and just gives you an insight into why
someone might find themselves sleeping in a car.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And you've got another book just about to come out.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, gravity, let me go and that one, mate, it's
everything I've just been telling you about.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
It's actually that that's the story of.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
A true crime journo like surprise, surprise, I'm a bit
about yourself reflecting.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
On what you know. We're not just talking out loud
and yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's okay, we know you're in A child has some trauma,
so it's okay, we know that.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
So we're all on board, whatever your process.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
So far, can I come in here more? And it's free.
It's about.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, No, it's genuinely about like, yeah, this is about
my years as sort of me addressing what happens to
the kid from Boy you know what I mean? What
happens when that kid becomes a journal and a father
of two teenage girls and tries his best to be
a really decent husband and.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Still carrying stuff from the past.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And it's the story of a true crime journal who's
so obsessed with this true crime scoop of his lifetime.
He gets a message from a killer that leads him
to a dead body. He's so obsessed with this thing
that will become a best selling book. And he's become
so obsessed with this scoop that he's in danger of
missing an even bigger scoop. And that's the scoop that's
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unfolding in his very own home.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, godlock in the morning.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I want to get up till three am.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'll read it gaily or watch it. That's how we work. Trent,
thank you so much for joining us in the studio.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Get to love Stories. It's that hotter. I might just
be front row.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Thanks hot tomato.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Honestly, thanks for all you do and like, this city
has just got so many memories for me, you know,
and so thanks for just being a part of community
and making this place what it is.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No worries, love your work mate,