May 26, 2025 • 25 mins
We wanted to share the return of the podcast Concealed with Art Simone with you to enjoy. If there’s something drag queen Art Simone knows about, it’s what it’s like to live a double life. In this podcast, Art talks to seemingly ordinary Australians who are concealing an outrageous secret, job or hobby. Can you guess what they’re hiding from the world?
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On the latest episode, meet the glamorous Tash! She lights up the room with her warmth and poise, but this former ballet dancer is concealing something...
She dreams of walking along the Hollywood Walk of Fame, loves a boogie to Earth, Wind and Fire, and would become an Astronaut if she had to start her life over. Can you guess what she's concealing?
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
All right, I'm tucked, I'm speckled, and I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm that Simone, and I already know I like you
because you've got great taste. You're putting only the best
in your eholes. But how good are you at getting
someone to spill the tea? Well, it doesn't really matter
because I'll do that bit for you. Let's meet our
guess and do some really hard work to find out
what makes them worthy of our time. This is concealed
(00:34):
with art, Simone roll the type.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hello. My name is Natasha. I have two beautiful children
and a fur baby named Leo Luna. I love getting
out into nature and you'll often find me in downward
dog doing yoga. I have a past career as a
ballet dancer and I was in some musical theater shows.
But I am concealing something that's a bit out of
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this world.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hello, Natasha, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hello? Very wealthy, Thank.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You for coming in and chatting to me on this
wonderful day here. Now you're sitting in front of me,
You're dressed impeccably, you're presented impeccably. I'm getting foma at
the moment because you are absolutely starting your makeup is perfect,
your hair is perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You have put in the effort today.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Is this an everyday experience and you always this well presented?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Darling? Likewise, must I say you look incredible? No, it's
not an everyday experience. I like to wear the trackie sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh okay, thank you for dolling up for me here today.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now you were wearing a beautiful blue dress.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
We've got stars and planets and spaceships and camera motifs
all over it. And I don't know whether you're going
to get offended by this, but it's the biggest compliment
from me. This is like a fashion version of something
Miss Frizzle would wear, who is a cartoon character, and
she was a teacher and she had the magic school bus,
and she always had these really cool space things all
(02:11):
over her smocks and outfits and things. And that's the
vibe I'm getting at the moment. I don't know what
that says. But fur baby, you didn't disclose what type
of fur baby it was.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He's a little kavoodle, the love of my life. Oh sorry, Darling,
what about the kids? The kids to the kids too,
He's a fairy love.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of my life.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Okay, okay, yeah, but he is my soul made up?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh, I know that is Yeah. I did you know
you were a dancer musical theater.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I used to be a ballet dancer. Yes, and I've
done a couple of musical theater shows.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
My goodness, did you love it?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I loved it. It's one of the best times in
my life.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I have to say, And what did you enjoy out
of performing? What did you enjoy out of that?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, that's a really good question. I think I enjoyed
the artistry of performing. You know. I loved ballet. I
love the feeling and the motion.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Do you find yourself to be quite amused person?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I would say I am, Yes, I would say I'm
a creative person.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I feel like we're connecting and I don't even know
what you're concealing from me yet. Okay, what's just come out?
And you're like, I play rugby and then we'd have
nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
The shoulders right now.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
With the puffylo, Yes, with the puffies flee. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So what AM going to do is ask you three questions,
and from the answer to those three questions, I have
to try and figure out what it is that you're
concealing from me. Okay, I love a game. First question
I have for you is, all right, you're traveling anywhere
in the world. What is the most overrated tourist attraction
that you'd want to see that you know it's on
your list?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
See, I think I would love to see all the
pretty stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh okay, yes, yes, a lot of reading in that though,
because you have to read every name on the start.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't mind that, you don't mind? Yes, I mind that.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
A lot of work I've down a few times.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Question number two, all right, let's imagine you're a boxer, okay,
and you're going to walk out for your boxing match.
You're going to walk into the ring. What is your
theme song going to be?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
All right, I'm going from rugby to boxing, missus. Yeah,
I think my victory song would be maybe anything by
Earth Wind and Fire.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Earth and Fire.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, all right, okay, I'm just making notes now. All right, so, oh,
Earth Wind and Fire, Captain Plant he's here, no, okay.
And third and final question, Okay, you wake up tomorrow.
You have to change your career completely.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You've suddenly forgotten how to do whatever you do, all right,
what would you do instead?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What would you change to your different career be?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That's a hard one because I love what I do,
but I think if I had to do something else,
I choose to be an astronaut, and because yeah, I'd
love to just see the Earth and all the celestial
bodies and feel and one up there.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
A bit lonely in space.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
No, I don't mind being a bit lonely. I'm a
bit of a hermit.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh okay, maybe you can bring a kvoodle. Yeah, that's
a bit of CAVODL in space before we need to google.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I doubt it. So yeah, Lee, I'm going I could
be the first.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That'd be awesome, Leo, the first in space. Let's do it. Okay,
let's let's recap them what we've got today.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, there's clearly lots of stars and astrological references and
spacey things. You've got beautiful stars all over you there
as well, you've got star earrings.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I've got to mention as well.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
The stars, planets, astrological things.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I know what world we're in, but what but what
specifically could it be?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Indeed?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Ooh, I'm trying to think of it a title having
a title star person. No, I'm going to go left
the field because I know I'm going to get it
wrong regardless.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, you could do it. Are you a secret Hollywood
movie star?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Thank you, but no. I am Natasha Webber, otherwise known
as Astrotash, and I'm an astrologer. I'm the resident astrologer
of the Morning Show, where I deliver the weekly horoscopes.
I also write the daily horoscopes for Channel seven News,
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and I write astrology articles for Mamma Mia and Murray
Clare Magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You were so close in the world, but you was.
So you're an astrologer. Yeah, okay, yes, okay, and a
very very well known astrologer. Can you please explain what
an astrologer is.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let's start there.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, because a lot of people think that astrologers just
write horoscopes and that astrology is just about horoscopes. But
they're really just the tip of the iceberg. So when
I and I write a lot of horoscopes. When I
do that, I always consult all of the data. So
I do that with a book called the Ephemeris, and
I also have a software program that calculates all of
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the mathematical placements of all of the planets in the zodiac.
So it's actually very scientific in that way and very exact.
So I'll start with the astrological data and I'll calculate
a chart, and from that chart, you know, I can
see that the planets are in the certain zodiac signs
and how that's working for every star sign.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I think there's a bit of mystery behind it, because
I think we grow up and we see horoscopes and
people go, oh, yeah, whatever, they must just sit there
and go today you're feeling like it's going to be
a lucky day, don't wear the color red. But hearing
all of this that I didn't realize there was such
a science behind it for something like horoscopes. How do
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you take that data and that information and then create
your horoscopes to find out how that's going to affect
different people and etc.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yes, good quest, And you're a virgo, so I know
you'd appreciate the detail in the data. I yes, yes,
precise and perfectionists. So we'd look at the chart and
then actually, there's planets are in the same positions in
the sky for every sign. The planets don't change for
your signs. So how we work that for each sign
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is we move around the houses. So the houses in
an astrological chart represent different areas of life. So I've
got a limited space and content of what i have
to write. So I usually pick one thing, one or
two things for each of the signs, and then I
will write about that and how that sort of works
for each sign. But it's a little bit different according
(09:06):
to the houses, but it's all happening the same for
every sign in the sky.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So how did you get into the world of astrology?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I was doing other things and then I had my
first child, and the thing like with dancing, and I
was also doing a bit of modeling, and I thought,
all right, I've had a child. No, now I have
to get serious and start using my brain because you know,
the body's over it. Which it's not, by the way,
but that was my mindset. So I was thinking what
am I going to study? And I was tossing up
between astrology, psychology and naturopathy actually, and I was praying
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for a sign and then I went into was channel
ten and I met the gorgeous Karen Mooregold. She was
the beautiful astrologer with the golden hair, and she she's
had a forty year career in television, and so, you know,
I sort of nervously asked her for her direction on
a astrology school, and I got that, and so I
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started studying. But then I studied, and I was part
of a senior research group for fifteen years before I
started astrotash. And when I started astrotash, everything kind of snowballed.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So you mentioned going to school, Yeah, how do you
find an astrology school? It seems it's good. Look, it
does seem a bit whimsical and magical. I know, it's
obviously very scientific.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I'm picturing it going.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Off into a mysterious little cottage to look at a telescope.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yes, into a little coven ze velvet, nothing like that.
It was nothing like that. And it was really hard
to find an astrology school, you know, a reputable astrology school,
because there are lots of you know, there are lots
of scams out there. There are lots of dodgy people
claiming to be astrologist or and they don't have the training,
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you know, and they don't have the qualification. So I
really wanted to make sure I was going somewhere and
learning proper. So Karen put me onto someone who put
me onto the Australian Academy of Astrology and Cosmo Biology,
and that was you know it was. It was actually
in a location called Zodiac Street in Battle. It's just serientipitous,
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but it was really like sort of sitting down and
learning the math. My second year of study was a
four hour math exam, so we're going through all of
the formulas. So we lost a lot of people, in fact,
probably eighty percent of the class after the first year
because they thought it was probably going to be more
whimsical than it actually was.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Coming up, I'm going to get tashed to dish the
dirt on the worst star sides, explain to me what
the solar system is, and maybe see if she can
even give me a cheeky reading and find out what
the heck mercury and retrograde actually is even if it
is real. We're here with Astrotash, the astrologer, and I've
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heard the term mercury and retrograde, which gets thrown around
all the time. What does it really mean? Does it
actually mean that everything's going going to go terribly? Because
I feel like Mercury is in retrogade a lot more
often than I thought it was, so.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It actually is. It actually goes to retrograde about three
to four times a year for about three weeks at
a time.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
They're long sosts.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No, No, I'm just like awareness, this going to end.
But really so, technically speaking, it's when Mercury reverses through
the zodiac, but it doesn't actually reverse through the sky.
It's an optical illusion. So it's from our vantage point
here on Earth that it appears to move backwards, right, Yeah,
and that's something I'd like to see from space. Yeah.
But because mercury represents communication in astrology, and when a
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planet goes retrograde, it internalizes that energy. So communication in
Mercury's case is not flowing forward smoothly. So if we're
trying to push forward with a conversation or an ultimatum,
let's say, then that's not going to go very well.
But here's where it comes in as a tool. If
we know Mercury is in retrograde, we can say, okay,
so this is not the time to push for this
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result in this conversation, but it is a wonderful time
to maybe go over my plans and re You know,
we say with mercury retrograde, anything starting with re redo, review, reassess.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Is it just mercury that goes into retrograde or all planets?
Is it just mercury that's bad?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Then?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But everyone no, but you see mercury.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What about Yeah, saturin in retrograde.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, exactly. And actually Mars retrograde. I don't like Mars
retrograde very much at all. So Mars retrograde because Mars
represents assertiveness and action. When that goes retrograde, that internalizes
that energy. So we can find ourselves boiling kind of
under the surface or getting real frustrated because things are
not moving forward in the direction that we want. So, yes,
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all planets go retrograde, and whatever that planet represents will
be internalized and we can use that well or not.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We're generalizing star signs, which ones you think get a
really bad rap?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
People go, oh yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Oh no, yeah, definitely. These are my top three. So
Gemini's leos and scorpios. And the reason is that people
think geminis are two faced and superficial and gossipy, but
geminis are actually the sign of duality and they're the twins,
so they love to connect and communicate at their highest potential.
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But of course, you know, every sign has its light
and shadow qualities, so if they tip into their shadow,
which is possible for any sign, then they can tend
to be gossipy. But at their highest potential they want
to connect and talk to you and really find out
what's going on in your mind and share ideas and theories.
And then Scorpio is an interesting one. So Scorpio is
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known to be vindictive and jealous and super intense.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
My sister is a Scorpio and you just described her
very accurately.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well, that's in the shadow, that's in this Sorry sorry sorry,
uh artonsus.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
No, no, she doesn't listen.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So the other side to that coin is that depth,
and in that depth is the ability to be passionately
connected to the people that they love and to the
things that they care about. And then the Leos. So
everyone thinks that Leo's are uber confident. Oh you're a Leo,
You've got this huge ego, but in actual fact, there
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are a lot of really shy Leos, especially Leo moons.
So the traits of each zodiac sign are key themes
in that science life, so it's not necessarily a trait
that they're born with. It might be that that really
shy leo has to develop the confidence over the course
of their lifetime and they will be tested on that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Do you like to test yourself?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Do you go when you meet people and you really
try and go, I reckon, you're this, this in this,
and do you often get it correct?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You know what? A lot of people ask me, oh,
you're an astrologer, guess my sign? Yes, And firstly I say, well,
I'm an astrologer. I'm not a clevoyant or a psychic, so,
you know, huge difference. But also when they're asking that,
you know, guess what sign I am, they're asking what
sun sign they are, when in actual fact, the sun
sign is your basic core character. So if I've just
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met someone for the first time, I'm not going to
know their basic character, be more likely to guess their
rising sign because that's the more the oude layer of
our personality.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, that's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
When I discovered that, no, there's a lot more you're
this with that, and that it's a very confusing language. Yes,
is there a way to kind of break it?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Down.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I know you probably have had to do this so
many times where it's okay, like you said, you've got
your son, and that's what when you were bought the
date you were born.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yes, that's according to your birth date.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yes, yes, and then what are the moons according to
is that?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, well, when you start to look at the faster
moving points and the moon, then you really do need
your birth time. So birth chart is calculated according your time,
date and location of birth, so it's like a snapshot
of the sky at your exact moment of birth. So
I've actually calculated your chart. Would you like to know?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Please, okay, this is my secrets.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh my goodness, Okay, we're going to find out something
about me together.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Okay, this is it's actually fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So is this your shot? Is this the birth chart? There?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
This is the this is your birth chart. So I'm
looking at and I've just done some little circular things.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
The rings with some lut what do we get?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You won't be able to understand that, and that's so.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Fay have to go to school for them.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, I know, and yes, you could.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Be showing me something in Japanese and I'll be like
I don't know. It's it's a whole other language.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
It is.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's like it's like secrets that you're decoding secrets there.
Maybe you could also maybe go into a career of
a codebreaker. Maybe you'd be really good at escaping.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I've just decided, well, I've got a sage rising, so
I love games, so I would totally be into that
escape room. Yes, I've actually wanted to go for ages.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You could have your own branded escape room, just psych astrology,
and no one would be able to get.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Out except for me and I just yeah, trapped in
there for years. Okay, do you want to know?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Please tell me yes.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So we're going to look at it just very very quickly.
And to do that, there are four there's I call
it the core four. But you may have heard of
the Big three. It's huge in pop culture. Everyone's talking
about the Big three. But I want to debunk the
Big three because it really should be the core four,
which is your four most important placements in your birth chart.
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So that's the sun, the moon, the rising sign, and
the mid mid heaven sign. So the mid heaven sign
is often left out.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I think I've heard of that.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So the sun is your core character, how you shine
your light out into the world. The moon sign is
a deeper layer to yourself, more of a soulful layer.
It speaks of your emotional landscape. The rising sign is
more of the coat we wear, it's more of our personality.
And the mid heaven sign is kind of what we
aspire to do. It it's like our vocation, but what
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we want to do at our highest potential. The chart
just reveals all when when I see you, I see
this glamorous, almost a little over the top. I don't know,
I forgive me, it's just a feeling, it's just but
in actual fact, you've got the sun in Virgo, which
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is a very modest, quiet, introverted sign, and on top
of that, your sun is in the twelfth house. So
this to me, so firstly, you replenish your energy in solitude.
You really need that me time, that quiet time to
yourself to replenish your energy. You know, okay, yes, this
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is as so you're a perfectionist, someone who really has
a fabulous gift for noticing the details. But sometimes this
can backfire when you are too self critical. It can
be really hard on yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I flashbacks, Oh no, I had a very famous dummy
spit on television because oh it wasn't perfect enough.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So oh okay, I wasn't aware of that, Okay, okay,
all right. Also in the twelfth House, this is someone
with a lot of depth beneath the surface, and it's
information and emotions and thoughts that you really keep to yourself.
So it's a case of still waters running deep with you.
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It's also it's the House of Secrets. So I just
sometimes astrology can be so literal. And here you've got
this podcast called Concealed with artsimone, right, so you know
and you your son is in the twelfth House, House
of Secrets. But also so this is about the House
of hidden enemies. So there are some people that you
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will encounter in your life who would like to see
you cut down a peg or two. So you need
to just be aware of that and keep your white
light around yourself. But all this fabulousness that we see
that is in the chart as well, because you've got Jupiter.
Jupiter is the planet of more is more, optimism, luck, abundance,
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larger than life, and that is closely aligned with your
suns sign. So you've got that sort of Jupiter flavor
to your Sun sign. And then the moon sign is
in Aquarius. This means that you've got a real ability
to intellectualize and articulate your feelings. It gives a more
cerebral quality to your emotional landscape. But it's closely next
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to Saturn, so this would tell me that you're emotionally
quite reserved in actual fact. And then the cancer mid Heaven.
For you, cancer all about family and nurturing and sensitivity.
But it's also the sign of the entrepreneur, so this
would tell me that you'd be a fabulous entrepreneur of
your own business, which clearly you are in your own brand.
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But then the liberal Rising, so this is very much
what people see, you know, the rising sign on the outside,
and this is how you present to the world. And
what this tells me is not only are you fabulous
and you know, very out there and glamorous, but for you,
this is an art this is your artistry how you
present yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There must be.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
A secretor of the dating world where it is just
an astrological talk like imagine speed dating, but you swap
your chart over for the f and you can just
read each other's chart for the sixty seconds and.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You go not next.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Oh, wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
That'd be good.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Well, there's there are apps that do that. They're huge.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Wow, yeah, show me your charts. Yeah one, isn't it.
That could be a good pickup line.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Oh? Absolutely, that's the best. You know. And I have
been known to aska dates for their their time of birth.
And can you give.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Me the ultimatip to slip that into conversation without revealing
that you wanted to read their chart? No, that's the
time of the day and location with your books?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yes, yes, just just interested.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And what was the name of your first pet. I'm
not trying to break into your accounts at all. I
don't know what's going on. I have to do my
homework clearly so I can really be on top of
this and understand who I am, who I want to
be around, where my life's going to go, How I'm
going to observe this information.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
How do I do my homework though? How do I
do it?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Ah? Okay, well you could. You could pop over to
my website, which is astrotash dot com. Super simple. But
I have just released a book of fabulous yes, and
it's seven years of my work. It's called Your Celestial
compass astrology for self discovery and empowerment. So this is
blames and it goes into every zodiac sign are their
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health and wellness, personality, strengths, traits, love language, sex, style,
and beyond.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That does sound like the perfect compendium to take with
me on dates and go all right, let's see what
astrotash has got to say about you.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's exactly right, you can and it's got compatibility and
there's a whole chapter love and rembatibility as well.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So s to go to the bathroom and it's sitting
in the toilet, keep going, all.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Right, do it?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Slip it into your bag.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You're good to go.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh. I really thought Natasha was going to be a
secret Hollywood star. Shame really, but instead she knows what's
written in the stars, baby, and let's look at what's
written in the stars for you. Says you're going to
click that follow button so you can listen all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And what's this.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
The stars also say that you want to see this
out of this world beauty, so look us up.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
On the socials.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
M hmmmmmm.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Concealed with that. Simone is an iHeart production
All right, I'm tucked, I'm speckled, and I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm that Simone, and I already know I like you
because you've got great taste. You're putting only the best
in your eholes. But how good are you at getting
someone to spill the tea? Well, it doesn't really matter
because I'll do that bit for you. Let's meet our
guess and do some really hard work to find out
what makes them worthy of our time. This is concealed
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with art, Simone roll the type.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hello. My name is Natasha. I have two beautiful children
and a fur baby named Leo Luna. I love getting
out into nature and you'll often find me in downward
dog doing yoga. I have a past career as a
ballet dancer and I was in some musical theater shows.
But I am concealing something that's a bit out of
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this world.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hello, Natasha, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hello? Very wealthy, Thank.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You for coming in and chatting to me on this
wonderful day here. Now you're sitting in front of me,
You're dressed impeccably, you're presented impeccably. I'm getting foma at
the moment because you are absolutely starting your makeup is perfect,
your hair is perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You have put in the effort today.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Is this an everyday experience and you always this well presented?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Darling? Likewise, must I say you look incredible? No, it's
not an everyday experience. I like to wear the trackie sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh okay, thank you for dolling up for me here today.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Now you were wearing a beautiful blue dress.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
We've got stars and planets and spaceships and camera motifs
all over it. And I don't know whether you're going
to get offended by this, but it's the biggest compliment
from me. This is like a fashion version of something
Miss Frizzle would wear, who is a cartoon character, and
she was a teacher and she had the magic school bus,
and she always had these really cool space things all
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over her smocks and outfits and things. And that's the
vibe I'm getting at the moment. I don't know what
that says. But fur baby, you didn't disclose what type
of fur baby it was.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He's a little kavoodle, the love of my life. Oh sorry, Darling,
what about the kids? The kids to the kids too,
He's a fairy love.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of my life.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Okay, okay, yeah, but he is my soul made up?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh, I know that is Yeah. I did you know
you were a dancer musical theater.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I used to be a ballet dancer. Yes, and I've
done a couple of musical theater shows.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
My goodness, did you love it?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I loved it. It's one of the best times in
my life.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I have to say, And what did you enjoy out
of performing? What did you enjoy out of that?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, that's a really good question. I think I enjoyed
the artistry of performing. You know. I loved ballet. I
love the feeling and the motion.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Do you find yourself to be quite amused person?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I would say I am, Yes, I would say I'm
a creative person.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I feel like we're connecting and I don't even know
what you're concealing from me yet. Okay, what's just come out?
And you're like, I play rugby and then we'd have
nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
The shoulders right now.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
With the puffylo, Yes, with the puffies flee. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So what AM going to do is ask you three questions,
and from the answer to those three questions, I have
to try and figure out what it is that you're
concealing from me. Okay, I love a game. First question
I have for you is, all right, you're traveling anywhere
in the world. What is the most overrated tourist attraction
that you'd want to see that you know it's on
your list?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
See, I think I would love to see all the
pretty stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh okay, yes, yes, a lot of reading in that though,
because you have to read every name on the start.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I don't mind that, you don't mind? Yes, I mind that.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
A lot of work I've down a few times.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Question number two, all right, let's imagine you're a boxer, okay,
and you're going to walk out for your boxing match.
You're going to walk into the ring. What is your
theme song going to be?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
All right, I'm going from rugby to boxing, missus. Yeah,
I think my victory song would be maybe anything by
Earth Wind and Fire.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Earth and Fire.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, all right, okay, I'm just making notes now. All right, so, oh,
Earth Wind and Fire, Captain Plant he's here, no, okay.
And third and final question, Okay, you wake up tomorrow.
You have to change your career completely.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You've suddenly forgotten how to do whatever you do, all right,
what would you do instead?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What would you change to your different career be?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That's a hard one because I love what I do,
but I think if I had to do something else,
I choose to be an astronaut, and because yeah, I'd
love to just see the Earth and all the celestial
bodies and feel and one up there.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
A bit lonely in space.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
No, I don't mind being a bit lonely. I'm a
bit of a hermit.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh okay, maybe you can bring a kvoodle. Yeah, that's
a bit of CAVODL in space before we need to google.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I doubt it. So yeah, Lee, I'm going I could
be the first.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That'd be awesome, Leo, the first in space. Let's do it. Okay,
let's let's recap them what we've got today.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, there's clearly lots of stars and astrological references and
spacey things. You've got beautiful stars all over you there
as well, you've got star earrings.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I've got to mention as well.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
The stars, planets, astrological things.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I know what world we're in, but what but what
specifically could it be?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Indeed?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Ooh, I'm trying to think of it a title having
a title star person. No, I'm going to go left
the field because I know I'm going to get it
wrong regardless.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, you could do it. Are you a secret Hollywood
movie star?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Thank you, but no. I am Natasha Webber, otherwise known
as Astrotash, and I'm an astrologer. I'm the resident astrologer
of the Morning Show, where I deliver the weekly horoscopes.
I also write the daily horoscopes for Channel seven News,
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and I write astrology articles for Mamma Mia and Murray
Clare Magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You were so close in the world, but you was.
So you're an astrologer. Yeah, okay, yes, okay, and a
very very well known astrologer. Can you please explain what
an astrologer is.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let's start there.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, because a lot of people think that astrologers just
write horoscopes and that astrology is just about horoscopes. But
they're really just the tip of the iceberg. So when
I and I write a lot of horoscopes. When I
do that, I always consult all of the data. So
I do that with a book called the Ephemeris, and
I also have a software program that calculates all of
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the mathematical placements of all of the planets in the zodiac.
So it's actually very scientific in that way and very exact.
So I'll start with the astrological data and I'll calculate
a chart, and from that chart, you know, I can
see that the planets are in the certain zodiac signs
and how that's working for every star sign.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I think there's a bit of mystery behind it, because
I think we grow up and we see horoscopes and
people go, oh, yeah, whatever, they must just sit there
and go today you're feeling like it's going to be
a lucky day, don't wear the color red. But hearing
all of this that I didn't realize there was such
a science behind it for something like horoscopes. How do
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you take that data and that information and then create
your horoscopes to find out how that's going to affect
different people and etc.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yes, good quest, And you're a virgo, so I know
you'd appreciate the detail in the data. I yes, yes,
precise and perfectionists. So we'd look at the chart and
then actually, there's planets are in the same positions in
the sky for every sign. The planets don't change for
your signs. So how we work that for each sign
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is we move around the houses. So the houses in
an astrological chart represent different areas of life. So I've
got a limited space and content of what i have
to write. So I usually pick one thing, one or
two things for each of the signs, and then I
will write about that and how that sort of works
for each sign. But it's a little bit different according
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to the houses, but it's all happening the same for
every sign in the sky.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So how did you get into the world of astrology?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I was doing other things and then I had my
first child, and the thing like with dancing, and I
was also doing a bit of modeling, and I thought,
all right, I've had a child. No, now I have
to get serious and start using my brain because you know,
the body's over it. Which it's not, by the way,
but that was my mindset. So I was thinking what
am I going to study? And I was tossing up
between astrology, psychology and naturopathy actually, and I was praying
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for a sign and then I went into was channel
ten and I met the gorgeous Karen Mooregold. She was
the beautiful astrologer with the golden hair, and she she's
had a forty year career in television, and so, you know,
I sort of nervously asked her for her direction on
a astrology school, and I got that, and so I
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started studying. But then I studied, and I was part
of a senior research group for fifteen years before I
started astrotash. And when I started astrotash, everything kind of snowballed.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So you mentioned going to school, Yeah, how do you
find an astrology school? It seems it's good. Look, it
does seem a bit whimsical and magical. I know, it's
obviously very scientific.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I'm picturing it going.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Off into a mysterious little cottage to look at a telescope.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yes, into a little coven ze velvet, nothing like that.
It was nothing like that. And it was really hard
to find an astrology school, you know, a reputable astrology school,
because there are lots of you know, there are lots
of scams out there. There are lots of dodgy people
claiming to be astrologist or and they don't have the training,
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you know, and they don't have the qualification. So I
really wanted to make sure I was going somewhere and
learning proper. So Karen put me onto someone who put
me onto the Australian Academy of Astrology and Cosmo Biology,
and that was you know it was. It was actually
in a location called Zodiac Street in Battle. It's just serientipitous,
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but it was really like sort of sitting down and
learning the math. My second year of study was a
four hour math exam, so we're going through all of
the formulas. So we lost a lot of people, in fact,
probably eighty percent of the class after the first year
because they thought it was probably going to be more
whimsical than it actually was.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Coming up, I'm going to get tashed to dish the
dirt on the worst star sides, explain to me what
the solar system is, and maybe see if she can
even give me a cheeky reading and find out what
the heck mercury and retrograde actually is even if it
is real. We're here with Astrotash, the astrologer, and I've
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heard the term mercury and retrograde, which gets thrown around
all the time. What does it really mean? Does it
actually mean that everything's going going to go terribly? Because
I feel like Mercury is in retrogade a lot more
often than I thought it was, so.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It actually is. It actually goes to retrograde about three
to four times a year for about three weeks at
a time.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
They're long sosts.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No, No, I'm just like awareness, this going to end.
But really so, technically speaking, it's when Mercury reverses through
the zodiac, but it doesn't actually reverse through the sky.
It's an optical illusion. So it's from our vantage point
here on Earth that it appears to move backwards, right, Yeah,
and that's something I'd like to see from space. Yeah.
But because mercury represents communication in astrology, and when a
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planet goes retrograde, it internalizes that energy. So communication in
Mercury's case is not flowing forward smoothly. So if we're
trying to push forward with a conversation or an ultimatum,
let's say, then that's not going to go very well.
But here's where it comes in as a tool. If
we know Mercury is in retrograde, we can say, okay,
so this is not the time to push for this
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result in this conversation, but it is a wonderful time
to maybe go over my plans and re You know,
we say with mercury retrograde, anything starting with re redo, review, reassess.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Is it just mercury that goes into retrograde or all planets?
Is it just mercury that's bad?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Then?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
But everyone no, but you see mercury.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What about Yeah, saturin in retrograde.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, exactly. And actually Mars retrograde. I don't like Mars
retrograde very much at all. So Mars retrograde because Mars
represents assertiveness and action. When that goes retrograde, that internalizes
that energy. So we can find ourselves boiling kind of
under the surface or getting real frustrated because things are
not moving forward in the direction that we want. So, yes,
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all planets go retrograde, and whatever that planet represents will
be internalized and we can use that well or not.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
We're generalizing star signs, which ones you think get a
really bad rap?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
People go, oh yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Oh no, yeah, definitely. These are my top three. So
Gemini's leos and scorpios. And the reason is that people
think geminis are two faced and superficial and gossipy, but
geminis are actually the sign of duality and they're the twins,
so they love to connect and communicate at their highest potential.
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But of course, you know, every sign has its light
and shadow qualities, so if they tip into their shadow,
which is possible for any sign, then they can tend
to be gossipy. But at their highest potential they want
to connect and talk to you and really find out
what's going on in your mind and share ideas and theories.
And then Scorpio is an interesting one. So Scorpio is
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known to be vindictive and jealous and super intense.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
My sister is a Scorpio and you just described her
very accurately.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well, that's in the shadow, that's in this Sorry sorry sorry,
uh artonsus.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
No, no, she doesn't listen.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So the other side to that coin is that depth,
and in that depth is the ability to be passionately
connected to the people that they love and to the
things that they care about. And then the Leos. So
everyone thinks that Leo's are uber confident. Oh you're a Leo,
You've got this huge ego, but in actual fact, there
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are a lot of really shy Leos, especially Leo moons.
So the traits of each zodiac sign are key themes
in that science life, so it's not necessarily a trait
that they're born with. It might be that that really
shy leo has to develop the confidence over the course
of their lifetime and they will be tested on that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Do you like to test yourself?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Do you go when you meet people and you really
try and go, I reckon, you're this, this in this,
and do you often get it correct?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You know what? A lot of people ask me, oh,
you're an astrologer, guess my sign? Yes, And firstly I say, well,
I'm an astrologer. I'm not a clevoyant or a psychic, so,
you know, huge difference. But also when they're asking that,
you know, guess what sign I am, they're asking what
sun sign they are, when in actual fact, the sun
sign is your basic core character. So if I've just
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met someone for the first time, I'm not going to
know their basic character, be more likely to guess their
rising sign because that's the more the oude layer of
our personality.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, that's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
When I discovered that, no, there's a lot more you're
this with that, and that it's a very confusing language. Yes,
is there a way to kind of break it?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Down.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I know you probably have had to do this so
many times where it's okay, like you said, you've got
your son, and that's what when you were bought the
date you were born.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yes, that's according to your birth date.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yes, yes, and then what are the moons according to
is that?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Well, well, when you start to look at the faster
moving points and the moon, then you really do need
your birth time. So birth chart is calculated according your time,
date and location of birth, so it's like a snapshot
of the sky at your exact moment of birth. So
I've actually calculated your chart. Would you like to know?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Please, okay, this is my secrets.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh my goodness, Okay, we're going to find out something
about me together.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Okay, this is it's actually fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So is this your shot? Is this the birth chart? There?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
This is the this is your birth chart. So I'm
looking at and I've just done some little circular things.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
The rings with some lut what do we get?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You won't be able to understand that, and that's so.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Fay have to go to school for them.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, I know, and yes, you could.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Be showing me something in Japanese and I'll be like
I don't know. It's it's a whole other language.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
It is.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's like it's like secrets that you're decoding secrets there.
Maybe you could also maybe go into a career of
a codebreaker. Maybe you'd be really good at escaping.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I've just decided, well, I've got a sage rising, so
I love games, so I would totally be into that
escape room. Yes, I've actually wanted to go for ages.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You could have your own branded escape room, just psych astrology,
and no one would be able to get.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Out except for me and I just yeah, trapped in
there for years. Okay, do you want to know?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Please tell me yes.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So we're going to look at it just very very quickly.
And to do that, there are four there's I call
it the core four. But you may have heard of
the Big three. It's huge in pop culture. Everyone's talking
about the Big three. But I want to debunk the
Big three because it really should be the core four,
which is your four most important placements in your birth chart.
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So that's the sun, the moon, the rising sign, and
the mid mid heaven sign. So the mid heaven sign
is often left out.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I think I've heard of that.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So the sun is your core character, how you shine
your light out into the world. The moon sign is
a deeper layer to yourself, more of a soulful layer.
It speaks of your emotional landscape. The rising sign is
more of the coat we wear, it's more of our personality.
And the mid heaven sign is kind of what we
aspire to do. It it's like our vocation, but what
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we want to do at our highest potential. The chart
just reveals all when when I see you, I see
this glamorous, almost a little over the top. I don't know,
I forgive me, it's just a feeling, it's just but
in actual fact, you've got the sun in Virgo, which
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is a very modest, quiet, introverted sign, and on top
of that, your sun is in the twelfth house. So
this to me, so firstly, you replenish your energy in solitude.
You really need that me time, that quiet time to
yourself to replenish your energy. You know, okay, yes, this
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is as so you're a perfectionist, someone who really has
a fabulous gift for noticing the details. But sometimes this
can backfire when you are too self critical. It can
be really hard on yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I flashbacks, Oh no, I had a very famous dummy
spit on television because oh it wasn't perfect enough.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So oh okay, I wasn't aware of that, Okay, okay,
all right. Also in the twelfth House, this is someone
with a lot of depth beneath the surface, and it's
information and emotions and thoughts that you really keep to yourself.
So it's a case of still waters running deep with you.
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It's also it's the House of Secrets. So I just
sometimes astrology can be so literal. And here you've got
this podcast called Concealed with artsimone, right, so you know
and you your son is in the twelfth House, House
of Secrets. But also so this is about the House
of hidden enemies. So there are some people that you
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will encounter in your life who would like to see
you cut down a peg or two. So you need
to just be aware of that and keep your white
light around yourself. But all this fabulousness that we see
that is in the chart as well, because you've got Jupiter.
Jupiter is the planet of more is more, optimism, luck, abundance,
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larger than life, and that is closely aligned with your
suns sign. So you've got that sort of Jupiter flavor
to your Sun sign. And then the moon sign is
in Aquarius. This means that you've got a real ability
to intellectualize and articulate your feelings. It gives a more
cerebral quality to your emotional landscape. But it's closely next
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to Saturn, so this would tell me that you're emotionally
quite reserved in actual fact. And then the cancer mid Heaven.
For you, cancer all about family and nurturing and sensitivity.
But it's also the sign of the entrepreneur, so this
would tell me that you'd be a fabulous entrepreneur of
your own business, which clearly you are in your own brand.
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But then the liberal Rising, so this is very much
what people see, you know, the rising sign on the outside,
and this is how you present to the world. And
what this tells me is not only are you fabulous
and you know, very out there and glamorous, but for you,
this is an art this is your artistry how you
present yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There must be.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
A secretor of the dating world where it is just
an astrological talk like imagine speed dating, but you swap
your chart over for the f and you can just
read each other's chart for the sixty seconds and.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You go not next.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Oh, wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
That'd be good.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Well, there's there are apps that do that. They're huge.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Wow, yeah, show me your charts. Yeah one, isn't it.
That could be a good pickup line.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Oh? Absolutely, that's the best. You know. And I have
been known to aska dates for their their time of birth.
And can you give.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Me the ultimatip to slip that into conversation without revealing
that you wanted to read their chart? No, that's the
time of the day and location with your books?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yes, yes, just just interested.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And what was the name of your first pet. I'm
not trying to break into your accounts at all. I
don't know what's going on. I have to do my
homework clearly so I can really be on top of
this and understand who I am, who I want to
be around, where my life's going to go, How I'm
going to observe this information.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
How do I do my homework though? How do I
do it?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Ah? Okay, well you could. You could pop over to
my website, which is astrotash dot com. Super simple. But
I have just released a book of fabulous yes, and
it's seven years of my work. It's called Your Celestial
compass astrology for self discovery and empowerment. So this is
blames and it goes into every zodiac sign are their
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health and wellness, personality, strengths, traits, love language, sex, style,
and beyond.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That does sound like the perfect compendium to take with
me on dates and go all right, let's see what
astrotash has got to say about you.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's exactly right, you can and it's got compatibility and
there's a whole chapter love and rembatibility as well.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So s to go to the bathroom and it's sitting
in the toilet, keep going, all.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Right, do it?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Slip it into your bag.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You're good to go.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh. I really thought Natasha was going to be a
secret Hollywood star. Shame really, but instead she knows what's
written in the stars, baby, and let's look at what's
written in the stars for you. Says you're going to
click that follow button so you can listen all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And what's this.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
The stars also say that you want to see this
out of this world beauty, so look us up.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
On the socials.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
M hmmmmmm.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Concealed with that. Simone is an iHeart production
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