January 6, 2025 • 31 mins
Adam and Josh discuss the premiere of AEW on MAX.
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Yeah buddy, welcome back everybody to a brand new episode of Game Rage Rasslin'.
My name's Josh, I'm here today with good buddy Adam.
Greetings.
And today we're going to talk about, I said this earlier, we're going to talk about AEW on Max and it truly is all elderly wrestling.
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I give them a little credit but like, it's ridiculous.
But anyways, we'll talk about it.
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Anyways, alright.
All elderly wrestling.
I do think that this is very, this is like them trying to be like, oh no, we were on streaming first technically.
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Because like, we did it the week before you guys did.
We're on Max.
We did it.
We simulcasted.
We're on Max.
Cool.
I do not have, I will say the show was actually pretty good.
Because I watched it because I don't have, I don't fucking pay for cable.
So I don't get to watch like AEW proper.
Like I have to watch like, you know, if I want to see what goes on, I have to like see highlights or whatever.
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Or bootleg, find bootleg YouTube streams of the match.
But, or the events.
But I don't usually watch Dynamite because it's like, it's not even worth trying to fucking bootleg it.
But I will say, I watched the whole thing of this one.
And with the exception of the women's match, it was, I think, shit, was there two women's matches?
Fuck, I don't remember.
But with the exception of the women's match, it was actually pretty good.
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It was slightly entertaining.
And I, however, I don't, I don't like fucking, I don't like Edge, man.
I don't, I don't like him.
What prompted this?
Is it just exclusively what he's doing on AEW or?
No, no.
Is it just his entire career?
Fuck it.
No, no, no.
I will say this.
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I enjoyed Edge and Christian.
I even enjoyed his little singles run that he had, particularly when he was battling Matt Hardy.
All right.
The rest of the, the rated R, I mean, listen, rated RKO.
That was cool.
I feel like Edge does better when he's, when he's doing something either like an infidelity storyline that's actually real or he's like tagged up with somebody.
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Right. That's when he does the best.
I don't think he was ever that.
He seemed like a nice guy playing a villain.
I don't know if it's because he's Canadian.
Yeah, that's why it is.
I felt the same way.
He just never came across as threatening, but he just got thrusted to that role of being heel.
And perhaps it was because John Cena was around.
So like, yeah, well, we don't have to do with you.
So we're just going to have you be heel.
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We're going to be having to be rated R superstar fucking Edge or whatever.
And I don't know.
That's how I've always personally.
I don't want to discount what he did as a tag team champion or whatever.
Yeah, no, no.
But as a singles competitor, I don't fucking know.
Yeah, I'm not.
I wasn't really down for as most of the single shit in WWE tag team wise though, man.
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I love everything he's fucking done in terms of the tag team wrestling.
And you think you know me.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, that entrance is just cool, man.
Like that is fucking cool.
But it's because it harkens back to the time when it was like Edge and Christian, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like it harkens back to that period.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, you can't do that.
It was shortly after the time period that they they were separated or whatever.
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And he went on a little when he was like a mid card guy.
I, you know, I could tolerate that.
It was cool.
Like he was good.
You know, Continental Champion Edge.
Like that was cool.
But other than that, I wasn't really the biggest fan.
And now that he's old.
I and listen, this is not to know.
You know what?
Fuck it.
It is.
I'm going to be a just all right.
Because fuck old people.
OK, especially in a sport that requires you to be shirtless and actually be able to like
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perform.
Wait, hold up.
But this is also the simultaneously the the sport or sports entertainment where.
For some reason, I can't explain why when most people age, they tend to get weaker.
But by comparison in wrestling, they get stronger, they get stronger.
You know, like which makes no sense.
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Hulk in his second or third stint in WWE.
As champion when he returned as being face after the NWO, seemingly became stronger.
I don't I don't know.
I don't know how to explain that.
Yeah, I don't I don't know either how that works.
But in wrestling, that's that's apparently that's apparently what it is.
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But.
I do feel like the way that this is going, that a W is just trying to like.
Play like catch up, but also be like, oh, we kind of did it first with the with the streaming
thing, right?
I think it's impossible, though, because it's the there's so far.
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A W W so far ahead that.
It's fucking.
It's the major leagues versus.
High double layer, some shit.
Yeah, basically, I don't know if that might be even like little league.
The feature.
But.
The one thing, man, they just this is the this is this the gimmick of a W and it's kind
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of like one of those things where you don't really have a choice, you just you just got
to go with it.
And it's the no sells.
It's the no selling of finishing moves.
The W.W.E. does it, too.
But I feel like it's it's really prominent in A.W.W. and.
I was now that they've put shit on Max, like they've put some of the old like they put
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the twenty nineteen pay per views on Max, it's supposedly it's going to kind of be probably
once they eventually get it fully up, it'll be like the W.W.E. network where they have
basically everything on Max or like Peacock, right?
Everything will just be on there that they've done.
So I don't.
Even watching some of those old ones that I mean, I had seen some of them, but man,
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people used to really fucking be excited for A.W.W.
And now it kind of seems like, oh, man, like they're having a hard time filling,
filling the seats, at least in some some instances it looks like even like at the
the dynamite that they did on Max, it did look like it looked like they were trying
to avoid certain shots like you could just tell like one part of the arena was not
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that it was empty. They moved everybody over to make it, you know, give it the appearance
of being full.
I wonder if it's because it lost its luster where.
I don't remember exactly when A.W.W. started, but.
It was like 2019.
It was 2019, 2018, 2019. Yeah.
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Maybe it was just because people were looking for something different.
Yeah. And you know, it was fresh out of the box six years ago or seven years ago.
Wait, is that the math? Yeah, six, six or seven years ago that.
Now that it's been around long enough and now that things have gone off the rails in
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some cases that perhaps the allure is not what it once was.
I mean, I don't know if I don't think it's ever going to go under because I think Tony
Khan. Probably has more money than any person should, but it affords him the
opportunity to keep the shit going, even if the thing's not profitable to begin with.
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Yeah.
So I will say they I mean, they did book this this one pretty good.
The opening match was the hangman Adam Page versus Orange Cassidy.
And I like the hangman Adam Page.
I feel like he kind of got a raw deal in in being the world champ.
I mean, he jobbed to Chris Jericho for the first ever instead of giving it.
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And this is where A.W.W. kind of like set the set the bar at the beginning was the
first ever title match to determine who the first A.W.W. champion would be was Chris
Jericho versus Hangman Page and Hangman Page job.
Fucking Chris Jericho.
Yeah. But how how how else would you imagine it going for Chris?
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Well, personally, I felt like, hey, if this is a new thing.
Let's do something different that we haven't seen before.
Yeah, but look what happened.
It was sure it was great.
I don't want to say it happened exactly.
Like WCW, but.
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It from the start, it was evident that A.W.
was going to be a company that was sort of going to be run by wrestlers themselves.
So how is it any surprise that Chris Jericho put the strap on himself because he opted
to go to fucking A.W.W.
Yeah, I think nearly since the beginning.
Oh, yeah, no, he was then he was in it since the beginning.
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Yeah, it was funny because that was his whole first gimmick was saying everybody needed
to thank him for being an A.W.W., which was a great fucking gimmick because it's like
I'm the only reason anybody's looking here.
And so it was a great gimmick.
And that might have been true six years ago.
True. But now it's like, man, Chris Jericho is really outstayed his welcome.
And I don't think he knows when to retire.
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Yeah, I think he needs to go away for a while.
I don't think he's I don't know when the last time he was even involved in like a major
storyline, but he wasn't on this episode of fucking A.W.W. Dynamite.
But anyways, that match was pretty good.
Orange Cassidy. I mean, listen, a lot of people hate him because I think that fucking little
like that little like that lazy gimmick.
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I think that's fucking hilarious.
Yes, it does only go so far.
And he's kind of like stepped away from that where he's now actually like fighting.
And so it was cool. That was a good match.
And the coolest fucking thing they have right now, I feel like, is the Hertz Indicate, man.
MVP Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin and the man, the myth and the legend himself, Shelton
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Benjamin. He's too fucking good, man.
I love Shelton Benjamin to no end.
I feel like he got I don't know how you would have fixed his problem within WWE.
You put a fucking manager on him since he can't talk. Yeah, but I don't think he's somebody
that needs to talk.
I think the wrestling mostly does the work for him.
But if you have somebody like Paul Heyman doing that shit or whatever, then that'd be fucking great.
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But I mean, it looks like things are turning around for him.
He's getting a second wind on A.W.W. all fucking places.
Yeah, no, that is true.
And what's funny is with Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin, do I shit you not?
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They look damn near exactly the same as they did fucking 20 years ago.
Like, I shit you not. And what's funny is and they're OK, you know, they're both 40 fucking eight years old.
All right. MVP is slightly over 51.
He looks like a straight train wreck. All right. So like he did not make I don't think he did not maintain his shit.
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But them two, man, Shelton Benjamin.
I mean, Jesus Christ, honestly, I'll say he looks even fucking more shredded than he did maybe even back then.
So and his in-ring performance, they're both of theirs was stellar.
Excellent. And yeah, they they fought these these two dickheads, the acclaimed, which their gimmick used to be good last time I checked.
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And now nobody gives a shit about them, apparently, probably because Billy Gunn is not with them or whatever.
The rapping shit. Yeah, the rapping shit.
And it's like it's AIDS now, man. That gimmick with them, too, is AIDS.
And you can see that they're starting to have this rift or whatever.
And I think they're going to break them up, which is going to be bad for both of those dudes.
I think both both of those guys are going to be the genetic because they can't neither of them can fucking wrestle.
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Like, that's the fucking problem is they're both kind of shitty wrestlers and they were getting by with their with the gimmick of like the rapping and then like the scissoring and all that shit.
People love that shit. The wrestling was not that great, in my opinion, at least.
So I think both of those guys are fucking out on the outs if they separate them, they're fucking going to just be gone.
But they they job the old the old syndicate fucking got the dub, which was great because I was like, yeah, good, excellent work, gentlemen.
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I was like, man, I'm going to tune in to watch Dynamite just to see her just see these dudes, man.
Like, anyways, and again, they are elderly. It's all elderly wrestling.
Like they're old 40 late 40s is old Gen X wrestling.
Basically, fuck, man.
Then we had the women's match, which is Julia Hart and Jamie Hader.
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That match was fucking terrible. That might be one of the worst matches I think I've ever seen.
It was just bad.
I did not. It was super gimmicky.
They fucking had some the missed fucking bullshit spraying and the wrestling was terrible.
That was not a good that was not a good match to put on your first like streaming, you know, because you're obviously you're obviously
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you're opened up to a new audience now.
It's people that are that have the max subscription.
And also, dude, they had Mercedes Monet come out and do like some fucking I don't know, man.
It was like some weird rich person CEO celebration.
And I was I literally as this was happening, I'm like, you should really reconsider this CEO gimmick in light of what has currently been going on
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and how much people don't fucking like CEOs.
And and I'm not saying to reconsider to not do it.
I'm saying to reconsider it, to do it better, because if you want to be a fucking heel, that's the whole thing.
I think she's like kind of a face.
But people are like, I don't know about this.
If they turned her full heel and let her like really rip into it and just be like, yes, I am the rich CEO and I am the best person ever.
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And you be you little peons and if they did that, that would be gold.
But this shit that she's doing right now is garbage.
It's terrible. And I have to say, I like I like Mercedes Monet.
I think she she can do well. But, man, she fucking sucks ass at this shit that's going on.
She didn't even wrestle. She's fucking had this this stupid fucking celebration.
It was so fucking stupid. I hated it.
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And then we had a three way. The next one was it was Jay White versus Swerve Strickland versus Roger Strong,
which I will say I like the three of these guys.
They can wrestle. Jay White picks up the win.
And now what was it they're going to?
I know they're going to do some fucking casino match to see who's going to be the next challenger to to John Moxley or whatever.
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It's like some kind of gauntlet where they like, I don't know, they fight and then another person comes out, whoever wins that one.
And they just do this like gauntlet thing. The last man standing is gets the title shot, I guess.
So that was like for an entry into the gauntlet. So have you seen the shit with Ricochet getting dunked on by getting ratioed on Twitter?
Oh, I've heard about I've seen people talk about it. But like, what do they actually what actually happened?
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I don't know. People were because I don't know why, but he started picking fights with people on Twitter.
And then there's just been people responding and just fucking owning him.
And I'm like, oh, man, somebody made the comments like, man, you had six days. He's like, I know you work at everything.
You only work one day. You only work one day a week on a W Dynamite.
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So you had six days to come up with a promo or whatever to respond to me. This is the best that you could fucking do.
And everybody's just like laughing at him and shit.
And then also there was like the toilet paper thing where everybody fucking threw toilet paper and even the fucking ring and shit.
I like, man, talk about Ricochet stock just plummeting. Yeah. What an asshole.
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What that guy? Yeah. Anyways, then we had in a continuation of all elderly wrestling,
Jeff Jarrett comes out and decides to say that he's the last outlaw is going for one more ride.
He signed one more deal with A.W. And this year he's going for gold.
I'll tell you what, man, A.W. has a lot of belts. All right. OK.
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The A.W. World Championship being like the most important one.
And then maybe like the number two that would probably be like the Ring of Honor World Championship, I feel like.
I think you can get away with letting Jeff Jarrett be the Ring of Honor World Champion.
I don't think that it makes any fucking sense to let him be the A.W. World Champion.
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I think you're I think you're being too generous.
I think the best he could do is be fucking TNT champion.
I don't even know what the women's when they hear the TV.
He can be the TVS champion. Yeah.
The TNT champion is where. Yeah.
No, I mean, listen, I am probably being a little generous, but I definitely my point being is that him coming out and saying
that he's setting his sights on A.W. World Championship gold.
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If this is his last go, they're going to let him do it like.
And that's what sucks is because. Who's going to fucking job to do who?
Your career is ruined if you job to Jeff Jarrett in a world title match.
I'm sorry. It's also charity. Yeah, it's charity to be champion.
Yeah. And it's in Jeff Jarrett's in his 60s, man, like I don't I don't.
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It's the old man strength, dude. I guess like I don't know.
Then we had in terms of matches, we had powerhouse Hobbs.
I'm not a fan of powerhouse Hobbs.
He beat up these two assholes and it was like a two on one handicap match and he whooped their ass.
M.J.F. had this video package of him like, you know, celebrating about he beat Adam Cole at the last pay per view or whatever.
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And he basically said that now he is going to get the A.W. championship in 2025.
So I go on. Everybody's throwing their fucking ring hat in the ring to fucking be world champion in twenty.
At least they make it believable that there's 20 different people, even if even if that's not the case.
Yeah. Vying for the championship.
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On a W, as opposed to W.E. only having a handful of dudes that are compete like for the IC title.
It's only like three or four people. If that at least you're under the illusion for the A.W. championship
that there's at least a dozen, if not more, trying to get their claim to the main event title.
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Yeah, true. Yeah, I don't know.
But OK, so then we had what's now, which I think this is terrible.
I don't know why you go in this. Here we go.
Furthermore, all elderly wrestling. OK.
What what is being referred to as rated FTR, which is FTR and fucking edge, which I will say this for Adam Copeland.
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He is no longer just being known as his. His new name is now Cope.
It's just Cope. And I thought I thought it'd be funny if Christian, I think, is still like signed with them or whatever.
Does that it would be great if he changes his name to Steve and then they fucking made a tag team and they were receiving Cope or Cope and Steve.
Like that'd be hilarious. And then Pepe was their fucking mascot.
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That'd be awesome. Like this never happened.
But a W copium, dude. Yeah.
Yeah, people can't handle people can't handle.
Fucking just a W in general, so the only thing that would subside this bullshit is to hope there's the huff copium, dude.
Adam Copeland, the literal copium, and they beat the the death riders, which was John Moxley fucking Castanoli.
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Whatever. Fucking Cesaro. Yeah, Canole. Can only Cesaro. That's his name.
Claudio. What a fucking stupid ass name that is, man.
Is he even fucking Italian? Because they stole. They they had him as a Swiss.
Yeah. Swiss person and fucking. Yeah. When he was fucking Cesaro, he was bliss.
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Anyways, and fucking the most useless wrestler ever. We were you. I hate that guy, man.
He's terrible. Yeah. The ever since the inception of the Blackpool Combat Club.
I just don't know where his value is, unless it's like your typical bully gang where there's always that one asshole that's just kind of like the hype man.
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He doesn't really do anything, but people that he's just in there for some reason.
Yeah, he's the guy that he's the point of him is to be like either one when the combat or what is it?
The stable has all the belts. He's either like a weird mid card champion or like one half of the tag team champions.
That's like his role or the scapegoat to get his ass beat so that the other three can look strong.
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Yeah, they're not they're not the people that end up looking worse. Right.
Well, that's what happened. We were you to took the fucking took the took the finish and did the job because well, Cesaro ain't going to do it.
And John Moxie's a world champion, so he can't do it. So so sorry.
That's why you're here. Fuck. Yeah, dude.
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I would I would love to be even though I criticize.
You know, Wheeler, I think being somebody that takes the fucking hits and basically does nothing on a weekly basis, I'll fucking do it for 500 G's.
I do it for whatever the hell is getting paid. I mean, shit, I agree.
I would do it. We were you to I don't know why I said that.
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But you know, Wheeler, because he's Japanese and they do that sometimes.
So it's weird. They don't know what his real name is.
It could be something different. Anyways.
I don't I don't I'm going to continue watching a W on Max just to just to fucking watch it because I
I don't know how this fucking raw Netflix is going to go.
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I already feel that the writing is on the wall that I'm already going to be turned off because I came
I came to discover that the ring itself is going to be loaded with
ads all over it and like, man, this looks like a fucking triple A or fucking CML, CML ring.
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And I hate to say it, man, but it's such a minute detail that
becomes problematic in a big way.
It's like a it's like a picture.
Imagine a picture, right?
And you have dozens of dozens of people in the background and you're taking a picture with four people in the foreground
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that it becomes so distracting that everything else about you don't really know where you're supposed to look.
And I don't know if it's just because of the angle of the ring or the camera, rather, that when you look when you look at the ring itself
and you see the fucking ads and then you see the wrestlers and then they're in motion that the one constant,
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the one constant is the fucking ads.
Like, so it kind of like takes away from the wrestling.
Yeah. Or at least in my head it does.
It takes away from the wrestling that it becomes fucking distracting.
So I don't know. I think it's a bad sign. Yeah, me too.
But I will say this. A buddy of mine sent me this.
What is what is rumored to be the new eight or the new WWE championship?
And it's a fuck. It's basically how many goddamn belts are they going to fucking have?
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Supposedly, this is going to be the new one and it is it is New Japan.
I was like, I literally text was like, oh, oh, so what?
We're New Japan now because it's got all the names of the past champions in little plates, just like the goddamn New Japan belt.
And listen, I know Cody Rhodes was over there for a hot minute, but I don't think we need to insert that idea over here.
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I. I don't even think I think that because of the belt of like in New Japan and the history of it and that they've been doing it forever.
That's that's why that's cool. But like just starting it now, all of a sudden, it's it's not cool.
Most of the people that watch wrestling fucking don't even know who any of these fucking names on the thing are.
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Like most of them now weren't even alive when a lot of this shit happened and haven't even seen it.
So it's almost fucking pointless.
And it's very funny, though, how Triple H's name is at the top of the fucking the order itself.
It's search. Yeah, it's Triple H and then Hogan.
How can I make this about me? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, Ric Flair is at the bottom. Yeah, it's funny.
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But anyways, I don't know if Crispin Juan.
Oh, dude, that'd be a shame if they left them out.
I will say that I know it's not confirmed that that's for sure. Like, I don't know.
This is who I don't know where he got the screenshot. I've seen nothing else to confirm this.
But if that's true.
I will say this, it's better than the current design. I hate that giant WWE logo.
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It's fucking lazy. It is.
I think this is a lot better, even though it pisses me off.
It's still better than the current thing that exists.
Man, how many fucking belt changes have there been?
In the last two or three years, because they had the universal title and they have the WWE title.
They did away with both of them to make way for the thousand day champion title, which now became the undisputed WWE championship title.
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And then now we're going to have this.
And then plus Kevin Owens was running around with the fake winged eagle belt. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Listen, I hope Kevin Owens keeps doing that. I would be fucking tells them to fuck off and I hope he just keeps doing it.
And imagine that we get a new fucking belt for the World Heavyweight Championship.
Another new belt. That's just reason we got a new belt.
Geez, that'd be hilarious, too. Yeah.
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You know, they're probably going to have to because you can't do one without the other because then Fox is going to go, hey, man, how come Smackdown doesn't get a new belt, man?
Because you know that's where he's going. Who's going to end up on the B show?
Wait, that's obvious because everybody else is Cody Rhodes is going to Raw. Most definitely.
And so is Roman Reigns. Oh, yeah.
So that means Gunther becomes Smackdown champion. Yeah.
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And then, oh, again, oh, they did as we didn't talk about it yet, but they burned Tiffany Stratton's fucking Money in the Bank on Smackdown, which I felt was fucking a complete waste of it.
But I mean, whatever, I guess, like you had said, you got to keep the guy. They got to keep interesting.
They got to keep both brands interesting.
And if I mean, shit, I think we're there on USA.
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I think they're on Fox, aren't they? No, no.
They're on USA. Yeah.
I don't know what happens.
I think they're I think they're going to be on USA for a while since they left Fox.
But in order to keep that brand interesting, I mean, you got to do shit like that for got to give the fucking you know, the cable network, it's fucking it's it's free bones or whatever.
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But yeah, I don't know how.
I don't know how it's going to work to keep Smackdown interesting because if all the top dogs are going to be on Raw, I mean, who's going to play face to fucking Gunther?
Who's to get traded or who's to end up going through the transfer portal to to make this make who's going to make this worthwhile for Smackdown?
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I don't know, man. I don't know.
It's all a shame. But anyways, I guess that's all I had to talk about.
So we'll see what happens.
Obviously, we're going to watch the raw that's coming on tonight, technically, because it's just about to be midnight.
And we'll let you know what you know how it goes.
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And today we're going to talk about, I said this earlier, we're going to talk about AEW on Max and it truly is all elderly wrestling.
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Anyways, alright.
All elderly wrestling.
I do think that this is very, this is like them trying to be like, oh no, we were on streaming first technically.
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Because like, we did it the week before you guys did.
We're on Max.
We did it.
We simulcasted.
We're on Max.
Cool.
I do not have, I will say the show was actually pretty good.
Because I watched it because I don't have, I don't fucking pay for cable.
So I don't get to watch like AEW proper.
Like I have to watch like, you know, if I want to see what goes on, I have to like see highlights or whatever.
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Or bootleg, find bootleg YouTube streams of the match.
But, or the events.
But I don't usually watch Dynamite because it's like, it's not even worth trying to fucking bootleg it.
But I will say, I watched the whole thing of this one.
And with the exception of the women's match, it was, I think, shit, was there two women's matches?
Fuck, I don't remember.
But with the exception of the women's match, it was actually pretty good.
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It was slightly entertaining.
And I, however, I don't, I don't like fucking, I don't like Edge, man.
I don't, I don't like him.
What prompted this?
Is it just exclusively what he's doing on AEW or?
No, no.
Is it just his entire career?
Fuck it.
No, no, no.
I will say this.
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I enjoyed Edge and Christian.
I even enjoyed his little singles run that he had, particularly when he was battling Matt Hardy.
All right.
The rest of the, the rated R, I mean, listen, rated RKO.
That was cool.
I feel like Edge does better when he's, when he's doing something either like an infidelity storyline that's actually real or he's like tagged up with somebody.
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Right. That's when he does the best.
I don't think he was ever that.
He seemed like a nice guy playing a villain.
I don't know if it's because he's Canadian.
Yeah, that's why it is.
I felt the same way.
He just never came across as threatening, but he just got thrusted to that role of being heel.
And perhaps it was because John Cena was around.
So like, yeah, well, we don't have to do with you.
So we're just going to have you be heel.
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We're going to be having to be rated R superstar fucking Edge or whatever.
And I don't know.
That's how I've always personally.
I don't want to discount what he did as a tag team champion or whatever.
Yeah, no, no.
But as a singles competitor, I don't fucking know.
Yeah, I'm not.
I wasn't really down for as most of the single shit in WWE tag team wise though, man.
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I love everything he's fucking done in terms of the tag team wrestling.
And you think you know me.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, that entrance is just cool, man.
Like that is fucking cool.
But it's because it harkens back to the time when it was like Edge and Christian, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like it harkens back to that period.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, you can't do that.
It was shortly after the time period that they they were separated or whatever.
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And he went on a little when he was like a mid card guy.
I, you know, I could tolerate that.
It was cool.
Like he was good.
You know, Continental Champion Edge.
Like that was cool.
But other than that, I wasn't really the biggest fan.
And now that he's old.
I and listen, this is not to know.
You know what?
Fuck it.
It is.
I'm going to be a just all right.
Because fuck old people.
OK, especially in a sport that requires you to be shirtless and actually be able to like
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perform.
Wait, hold up.
But this is also the simultaneously the the sport or sports entertainment where.
For some reason, I can't explain why when most people age, they tend to get weaker.
But by comparison in wrestling, they get stronger, they get stronger.
You know, like which makes no sense.
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Hulk in his second or third stint in WWE.
As champion when he returned as being face after the NWO, seemingly became stronger.
I don't I don't know.
I don't know how to explain that.
Yeah, I don't I don't know either how that works.
But in wrestling, that's that's apparently that's apparently what it is.
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But.
I do feel like the way that this is going, that a W is just trying to like.
Play like catch up, but also be like, oh, we kind of did it first with the with the streaming
thing, right?
I think it's impossible, though, because it's the there's so far.
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A W W so far ahead that.
It's fucking.
It's the major leagues versus.
High double layer, some shit.
Yeah, basically, I don't know if that might be even like little league.
The feature.
But.
The one thing, man, they just this is the this is this the gimmick of a W and it's kind
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of like one of those things where you don't really have a choice, you just you just got
to go with it.
And it's the no sells.
It's the no selling of finishing moves.
The W.W.E. does it, too.
But I feel like it's it's really prominent in A.W.W. and.
I was now that they've put shit on Max, like they've put some of the old like they put
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the twenty nineteen pay per views on Max, it's supposedly it's going to kind of be probably
once they eventually get it fully up, it'll be like the W.W.E. network where they have
basically everything on Max or like Peacock, right?
Everything will just be on there that they've done.
So I don't.
Even watching some of those old ones that I mean, I had seen some of them, but man,
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people used to really fucking be excited for A.W.W.
And now it kind of seems like, oh, man, like they're having a hard time filling,
filling the seats, at least in some some instances it looks like even like at the
the dynamite that they did on Max, it did look like it looked like they were trying
to avoid certain shots like you could just tell like one part of the arena was not
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that it was empty. They moved everybody over to make it, you know, give it the appearance
of being full.
I wonder if it's because it lost its luster where.
I don't remember exactly when A.W.W. started, but.
It was like 2019.
It was 2019, 2018, 2019. Yeah.
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Maybe it was just because people were looking for something different.
Yeah. And you know, it was fresh out of the box six years ago or seven years ago.
Wait, is that the math? Yeah, six, six or seven years ago that.
Now that it's been around long enough and now that things have gone off the rails in
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some cases that perhaps the allure is not what it once was.
I mean, I don't know if I don't think it's ever going to go under because I think Tony
Khan. Probably has more money than any person should, but it affords him the
opportunity to keep the shit going, even if the thing's not profitable to begin with.
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Yeah.
So I will say they I mean, they did book this this one pretty good.
The opening match was the hangman Adam Page versus Orange Cassidy.
And I like the hangman Adam Page.
I feel like he kind of got a raw deal in in being the world champ.
I mean, he jobbed to Chris Jericho for the first ever instead of giving it.
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And this is where A.W.W. kind of like set the set the bar at the beginning was the
first ever title match to determine who the first A.W.W. champion would be was Chris
Jericho versus Hangman Page and Hangman Page job.
Fucking Chris Jericho.
Yeah. But how how how else would you imagine it going for Chris?
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Well, personally, I felt like, hey, if this is a new thing.
Let's do something different that we haven't seen before.
Yeah, but look what happened.
It was sure it was great.
I don't want to say it happened exactly.
Like WCW, but.
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It from the start, it was evident that A.W.
was going to be a company that was sort of going to be run by wrestlers themselves.
So how is it any surprise that Chris Jericho put the strap on himself because he opted
to go to fucking A.W.W.
Yeah, I think nearly since the beginning.
Oh, yeah, no, he was then he was in it since the beginning.
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Yeah, it was funny because that was his whole first gimmick was saying everybody needed
to thank him for being an A.W.W., which was a great fucking gimmick because it's like
I'm the only reason anybody's looking here.
And so it was a great gimmick.
And that might have been true six years ago.
True. But now it's like, man, Chris Jericho is really outstayed his welcome.
And I don't think he knows when to retire.
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Yeah, I think he needs to go away for a while.
I don't think he's I don't know when the last time he was even involved in like a major
storyline, but he wasn't on this episode of fucking A.W.W. Dynamite.
But anyways, that match was pretty good.
Orange Cassidy. I mean, listen, a lot of people hate him because I think that fucking little
like that little like that lazy gimmick.
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I think that's fucking hilarious.
Yes, it does only go so far.
And he's kind of like stepped away from that where he's now actually like fighting.
And so it was cool. That was a good match.
And the coolest fucking thing they have right now, I feel like, is the Hertz Indicate, man.
MVP Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin and the man, the myth and the legend himself, Shelton
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Benjamin. He's too fucking good, man.
I love Shelton Benjamin to no end.
I feel like he got I don't know how you would have fixed his problem within WWE.
You put a fucking manager on him since he can't talk. Yeah, but I don't think he's somebody
that needs to talk.
I think the wrestling mostly does the work for him.
But if you have somebody like Paul Heyman doing that shit or whatever, then that'd be fucking great.
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But I mean, it looks like things are turning around for him.
He's getting a second wind on A.W.W. all fucking places.
Yeah, no, that is true.
And what's funny is with Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin, do I shit you not?
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They look damn near exactly the same as they did fucking 20 years ago.
Like, I shit you not. And what's funny is and they're OK, you know, they're both 40 fucking eight years old.
All right. MVP is slightly over 51.
He looks like a straight train wreck. All right. So like he did not make I don't think he did not maintain his shit.
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But them two, man, Shelton Benjamin.
I mean, Jesus Christ, honestly, I'll say he looks even fucking more shredded than he did maybe even back then.
So and his in-ring performance, they're both of theirs was stellar.
Excellent. And yeah, they they fought these these two dickheads, the acclaimed, which their gimmick used to be good last time I checked.
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And now nobody gives a shit about them, apparently, probably because Billy Gunn is not with them or whatever.
The rapping shit. Yeah, the rapping shit.
And it's like it's AIDS now, man. That gimmick with them, too, is AIDS.
And you can see that they're starting to have this rift or whatever.
And I think they're going to break them up, which is going to be bad for both of those dudes.
I think both both of those guys are going to be the genetic because they can't neither of them can fucking wrestle.
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Like, that's the fucking problem is they're both kind of shitty wrestlers and they were getting by with their with the gimmick of like the rapping and then like the scissoring and all that shit.
People love that shit. The wrestling was not that great, in my opinion, at least.
So I think both of those guys are fucking out on the outs if they separate them, they're fucking going to just be gone.
But they they job the old the old syndicate fucking got the dub, which was great because I was like, yeah, good, excellent work, gentlemen.
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I was like, man, I'm going to tune in to watch Dynamite just to see her just see these dudes, man.
Like, anyways, and again, they are elderly. It's all elderly wrestling.
Like they're old 40 late 40s is old Gen X wrestling.
Basically, fuck, man.
Then we had the women's match, which is Julia Hart and Jamie Hader.
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That match was fucking terrible. That might be one of the worst matches I think I've ever seen.
It was just bad.
I did not. It was super gimmicky.
They fucking had some the missed fucking bullshit spraying and the wrestling was terrible.
That was not a good that was not a good match to put on your first like streaming, you know, because you're obviously you're obviously
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you're opened up to a new audience now.
It's people that are that have the max subscription.
And also, dude, they had Mercedes Monet come out and do like some fucking I don't know, man.
It was like some weird rich person CEO celebration.
And I was I literally as this was happening, I'm like, you should really reconsider this CEO gimmick in light of what has currently been going on
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and how much people don't fucking like CEOs.
And and I'm not saying to reconsider to not do it.
I'm saying to reconsider it, to do it better, because if you want to be a fucking heel, that's the whole thing.
I think she's like kind of a face.
But people are like, I don't know about this.
If they turned her full heel and let her like really rip into it and just be like, yes, I am the rich CEO and I am the best person ever.
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And you be you little peons and if they did that, that would be gold.
But this shit that she's doing right now is garbage.
It's terrible. And I have to say, I like I like Mercedes Monet.
I think she she can do well. But, man, she fucking sucks ass at this shit that's going on.
She didn't even wrestle. She's fucking had this this stupid fucking celebration.
It was so fucking stupid. I hated it.
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And then we had a three way. The next one was it was Jay White versus Swerve Strickland versus Roger Strong,
which I will say I like the three of these guys.
They can wrestle. Jay White picks up the win.
And now what was it they're going to?
I know they're going to do some fucking casino match to see who's going to be the next challenger to to John Moxley or whatever.
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It's like some kind of gauntlet where they like, I don't know, they fight and then another person comes out, whoever wins that one.
And they just do this like gauntlet thing. The last man standing is gets the title shot, I guess.
So that was like for an entry into the gauntlet. So have you seen the shit with Ricochet getting dunked on by getting ratioed on Twitter?
Oh, I've heard about I've seen people talk about it. But like, what do they actually what actually happened?
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I don't know. People were because I don't know why, but he started picking fights with people on Twitter.
And then there's just been people responding and just fucking owning him.
And I'm like, oh, man, somebody made the comments like, man, you had six days. He's like, I know you work at everything.
You only work one day. You only work one day a week on a W Dynamite.
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So you had six days to come up with a promo or whatever to respond to me. This is the best that you could fucking do.
And everybody's just like laughing at him and shit.
And then also there was like the toilet paper thing where everybody fucking threw toilet paper and even the fucking ring and shit.
I like, man, talk about Ricochet stock just plummeting. Yeah. What an asshole.
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What that guy? Yeah. Anyways, then we had in a continuation of all elderly wrestling,
Jeff Jarrett comes out and decides to say that he's the last outlaw is going for one more ride.
He signed one more deal with A.W. And this year he's going for gold.
I'll tell you what, man, A.W. has a lot of belts. All right. OK.
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The A.W. World Championship being like the most important one.
And then maybe like the number two that would probably be like the Ring of Honor World Championship, I feel like.
I think you can get away with letting Jeff Jarrett be the Ring of Honor World Champion.
I don't think that it makes any fucking sense to let him be the A.W. World Champion.
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I think you're I think you're being too generous.
I think the best he could do is be fucking TNT champion.
I don't even know what the women's when they hear the TV.
He can be the TVS champion. Yeah.
The TNT champion is where. Yeah.
No, I mean, listen, I am probably being a little generous, but I definitely my point being is that him coming out and saying
that he's setting his sights on A.W. World Championship gold.
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If this is his last go, they're going to let him do it like.
And that's what sucks is because. Who's going to fucking job to do who?
Your career is ruined if you job to Jeff Jarrett in a world title match.
I'm sorry. It's also charity. Yeah, it's charity to be champion.
Yeah. And it's in Jeff Jarrett's in his 60s, man, like I don't I don't.
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It's the old man strength, dude. I guess like I don't know.
Then we had in terms of matches, we had powerhouse Hobbs.
I'm not a fan of powerhouse Hobbs.
He beat up these two assholes and it was like a two on one handicap match and he whooped their ass.
M.J.F. had this video package of him like, you know, celebrating about he beat Adam Cole at the last pay per view or whatever.
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And he basically said that now he is going to get the A.W. championship in 2025.
So I go on. Everybody's throwing their fucking ring hat in the ring to fucking be world champion in twenty.
At least they make it believable that there's 20 different people, even if even if that's not the case.
Yeah. Vying for the championship.
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On a W, as opposed to W.E. only having a handful of dudes that are compete like for the IC title.
It's only like three or four people. If that at least you're under the illusion for the A.W. championship
that there's at least a dozen, if not more, trying to get their claim to the main event title.
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Yeah, true. Yeah, I don't know.
But OK, so then we had what's now, which I think this is terrible.
I don't know why you go in this. Here we go.
Furthermore, all elderly wrestling. OK.
What what is being referred to as rated FTR, which is FTR and fucking edge, which I will say this for Adam Copeland.
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He is no longer just being known as his. His new name is now Cope.
It's just Cope. And I thought I thought it'd be funny if Christian, I think, is still like signed with them or whatever.
Does that it would be great if he changes his name to Steve and then they fucking made a tag team and they were receiving Cope or Cope and Steve.
Like that'd be hilarious. And then Pepe was their fucking mascot.
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That'd be awesome. Like this never happened.
But a W copium, dude. Yeah.
Yeah, people can't handle people can't handle.
Fucking just a W in general, so the only thing that would subside this bullshit is to hope there's the huff copium, dude.
Adam Copeland, the literal copium, and they beat the the death riders, which was John Moxley fucking Castanoli.
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Whatever. Fucking Cesaro. Yeah, Canole. Can only Cesaro. That's his name.
Claudio. What a fucking stupid ass name that is, man.
Is he even fucking Italian? Because they stole. They they had him as a Swiss.
Yeah. Swiss person and fucking. Yeah. When he was fucking Cesaro, he was bliss.
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Anyways, and fucking the most useless wrestler ever. We were you. I hate that guy, man.
He's terrible. Yeah. The ever since the inception of the Blackpool Combat Club.
I just don't know where his value is, unless it's like your typical bully gang where there's always that one asshole that's just kind of like the hype man.
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He doesn't really do anything, but people that he's just in there for some reason.
Yeah, he's the guy that he's the point of him is to be like either one when the combat or what is it?
The stable has all the belts. He's either like a weird mid card champion or like one half of the tag team champions.
That's like his role or the scapegoat to get his ass beat so that the other three can look strong.
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Yeah, they're not they're not the people that end up looking worse. Right.
Well, that's what happened. We were you to took the fucking took the took the finish and did the job because well, Cesaro ain't going to do it.
And John Moxie's a world champion, so he can't do it. So so sorry.
That's why you're here. Fuck. Yeah, dude.
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I would I would love to be even though I criticize.
You know, Wheeler, I think being somebody that takes the fucking hits and basically does nothing on a weekly basis, I'll fucking do it for 500 G's.
I do it for whatever the hell is getting paid. I mean, shit, I agree.
I would do it. We were you to I don't know why I said that.
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But you know, Wheeler, because he's Japanese and they do that sometimes.
So it's weird. They don't know what his real name is.
It could be something different. Anyways.
I don't I don't I'm going to continue watching a W on Max just to just to fucking watch it because I
I don't know how this fucking raw Netflix is going to go.
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I already feel that the writing is on the wall that I'm already going to be turned off because I came
I came to discover that the ring itself is going to be loaded with
ads all over it and like, man, this looks like a fucking triple A or fucking CML, CML ring.
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And I hate to say it, man, but it's such a minute detail that
becomes problematic in a big way.
It's like a it's like a picture.
Imagine a picture, right?
And you have dozens of dozens of people in the background and you're taking a picture with four people in the foreground
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that it becomes so distracting that everything else about you don't really know where you're supposed to look.
And I don't know if it's just because of the angle of the ring or the camera, rather, that when you look when you look at the ring itself
and you see the fucking ads and then you see the wrestlers and then they're in motion that the one constant,
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the one constant is the fucking ads.
Like, so it kind of like takes away from the wrestling.
Yeah. Or at least in my head it does.
It takes away from the wrestling that it becomes fucking distracting.
So I don't know. I think it's a bad sign. Yeah, me too.
But I will say this. A buddy of mine sent me this.
What is what is rumored to be the new eight or the new WWE championship?
And it's a fuck. It's basically how many goddamn belts are they going to fucking have?
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Supposedly, this is going to be the new one and it is it is New Japan.
I was like, I literally text was like, oh, oh, so what?
We're New Japan now because it's got all the names of the past champions in little plates, just like the goddamn New Japan belt.
And listen, I know Cody Rhodes was over there for a hot minute, but I don't think we need to insert that idea over here.
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I. I don't even think I think that because of the belt of like in New Japan and the history of it and that they've been doing it forever.
That's that's why that's cool. But like just starting it now, all of a sudden, it's it's not cool.
Most of the people that watch wrestling fucking don't even know who any of these fucking names on the thing are.
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Like most of them now weren't even alive when a lot of this shit happened and haven't even seen it.
So it's almost fucking pointless.
And it's very funny, though, how Triple H's name is at the top of the fucking the order itself.
It's search. Yeah, it's Triple H and then Hogan.
How can I make this about me? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, Ric Flair is at the bottom. Yeah, it's funny.
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But anyways, I don't know if Crispin Juan.
Oh, dude, that'd be a shame if they left them out.
I will say that I know it's not confirmed that that's for sure. Like, I don't know.
This is who I don't know where he got the screenshot. I've seen nothing else to confirm this.
But if that's true.
I will say this, it's better than the current design. I hate that giant WWE logo.
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It's fucking lazy. It is.
I think this is a lot better, even though it pisses me off.
It's still better than the current thing that exists.
Man, how many fucking belt changes have there been?
In the last two or three years, because they had the universal title and they have the WWE title.
They did away with both of them to make way for the thousand day champion title, which now became the undisputed WWE championship title.
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And then now we're going to have this.
And then plus Kevin Owens was running around with the fake winged eagle belt. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Listen, I hope Kevin Owens keeps doing that. I would be fucking tells them to fuck off and I hope he just keeps doing it.
And imagine that we get a new fucking belt for the World Heavyweight Championship.
Another new belt. That's just reason we got a new belt.
Geez, that'd be hilarious, too. Yeah.
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You know, they're probably going to have to because you can't do one without the other because then Fox is going to go, hey, man, how come Smackdown doesn't get a new belt, man?
Because you know that's where he's going. Who's going to end up on the B show?
Wait, that's obvious because everybody else is Cody Rhodes is going to Raw. Most definitely.
And so is Roman Reigns. Oh, yeah.
So that means Gunther becomes Smackdown champion. Yeah.
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And then, oh, again, oh, they did as we didn't talk about it yet, but they burned Tiffany Stratton's fucking Money in the Bank on Smackdown, which I felt was fucking a complete waste of it.
But I mean, whatever, I guess, like you had said, you got to keep the guy. They got to keep interesting.
They got to keep both brands interesting.
And if I mean, shit, I think we're there on USA.
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I think they're on Fox, aren't they? No, no.
They're on USA. Yeah.
I don't know what happens.
I think they're I think they're going to be on USA for a while since they left Fox.
But in order to keep that brand interesting, I mean, you got to do shit like that for got to give the fucking you know, the cable network, it's fucking it's it's free bones or whatever.
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But yeah, I don't know how.
I don't know how it's going to work to keep Smackdown interesting because if all the top dogs are going to be on Raw, I mean, who's going to play face to fucking Gunther?
Who's to get traded or who's to end up going through the transfer portal to to make this make who's going to make this worthwhile for Smackdown?
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I don't know, man. I don't know.
It's all a shame. But anyways, I guess that's all I had to talk about.
So we'll see what happens.
Obviously, we're going to watch the raw that's coming on tonight, technically, because it's just about to be midnight.
And we'll let you know what you know how it goes.
So anyways, if you want to listen to more, you go to GameRage magazine on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, GameRage, Twitter, Twitter, Twitter, GameRage, Mag,
(29:21):
follow Adam at AllGasNoTrashOfficial on Instagram and YouTube and substack.com forward slash at AllGasNoTrashOfficial.
That's it for us.
Catch you guys on the next one.
(29:45):
That was another wonderful, amazing, powerful episode of the GameRage Rasslin' podcast.
And take it from me, ladies and gentlemen, the natural lad, Jet Swag.
If there's one podcast, one show you should be listening to, that you should be absolutely grateful for,
(30:10):
it's the GameRage Rasslin' podcast.
And one of the things you can do to show your appreciation for all the hard work and dedication that these boys put out day in, day out, just for you people.
It's that you can go and you can subscribe and you can like and follow them on the Instagram and the TikTok at GameRage magazine.
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You can also follow them and like them and subscribe to them on the old Twitter, which I don't know what it's called now, but who cares?
It's that GameRage mag there.
Additionally, if you feel the need to really show your appreciation, which you should, then go to their website at www.gameragemagazine.com
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and show us some love.
Show them some love.
And show some love for the natural lad, Jet Swag.
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