October 25, 2024 • 26 mins
Adam and Josh discuss and review Episode 6 of Netflix's Mr. McMahon.
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Oh yeah, here we welcome everyone to a brand new wonderful episode of Game Rage Rasslin'.
My name is Josh, here today with good buddy Adam.
Welcome to the Game Rage Rasslin' Podcast, you son of a bitch.
And yes, we are going to be talking about the season, well, I mean, I'm assuming that
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I don't know if this is a season for now, series.
I don't know if it's over, if they're going to do more or what, but this is it.
This is episode six of the Mr. McMahon series.
This fucking series, I hate it so much.
It was sold, it was sold as this piece.
Revolutionary.
It was going to be a damning piece.
Of evidence against Vince McMahon and his sexual harassment.
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And it did nothing, it did nothing.
None of that.
It was, it just, all it did was expound upon what was already told.
Yeah, it just rehashed all the same shit.
And that's basically, we learned essentially nothing new.
So, except for maybe that Vince McMahon's father fucking molested him probably or some shit, I don't know.
Or beat his ass.
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Beat his ass at least.
Stepfather.
Yeah, stepfather.
And his real dad was negligent towards that.
Yeah, just completely negligent.
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Yeah, I haven't touched it in a week.
I don't even, well, whatever.
You can go there if you want.
It still exists.
Also, I'm considering deleting the website too, just because I haven't plugged it in like a month.
And I didn't even look at the analytics of it yet, but I think like the month before,
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there was like three people went there.
So I'm curious to see what, since I haven't plugged it, what it's at this month.
I might have to look right now, but anyway.
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Checked out our website, yeah.
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Yeet.
Yeet.
Yeet as a motherfucker.
So this whole thing is about Jey Uso and him main eventing and winning the IC, nah, I wish.
So let's get to the main beats of episode six, which is the beginning of the ruthless aggression era.
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Crisp and wah unloaded, you know, taking out his rage with his damaged brain.
He unloaded, he took the burden of life off of himself and his family unsubscribed from the YouTube channel of life and took himself out and his kid and his wife.
And so, OK, a little like because obviously, like I said, this thing said nothing new, but a conspiracy theory that exists about Crispin Wah thing.
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Crispin?
Crispin Wah.
So allegedly, and I have seen some screenshots and alleged proof of this, but supposedly, like several hours before it was reported in the news,
Crispin Wah's Wikipedia page was and his wife, Nancy Ben was Wikipedia.
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The Wikipedia page were updated with deceased and the date of the death, hours before, it was like six or seven hours before it was reported.
So, OK, I don't believe that because as it is Wikipedia, you can do that in the browser.
Can you change the time of when you did it?
It's not necessarily about when, like, unless you as a Wiki user are editing the thing, but the thing I was going to say was I can edit it.
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Yeah, because I know I can look at the if I open up the console for the browser, I can edit the element of where it says date of birth and like end date or like the day that he died.
I could do that manually.
But you could do that as a Wiki user.
So it's like that one's I don't know if I believe.
But it was before it got reported.
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So either someone had inside information and went on there and did it, which really Occam's razor.
You look at the lowest common denominator, the most likely scenario would be that someone who was within the WWE went in and did that themselves once they got the news that he was dead and went ahead and did it.
Or, you know, someone within the system that would have known about it or within like the maybe it was someone within that sheriff's department that fucking works there that responded to the call of them.
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The welfare check or whatever it was could have been that.
All right, if there's any teeth to what you're saying, the only thing that you could really take you can take as a grain of minutiae or a minutiae of a grain or vice versa.
I mean, dude, I'm sure there's recordings of because this pay-per-view happened where Owen Hart died, right?
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Right. Yeah.
They have to have that locked away in a fucking vault or whatever.
Or maybe they just deleted that though.
I'm sure it's somewhere.
I'm sure it exists still somewhere.
I think Vince probably jerks off to it like that's probably I think there's numerous things that the WWE has covered up.
And not to say that I think Owen Hart or Owen Hart, I think Crispin Wodd legitimately did it. But if if we're going to like even entertain the idea that this was an inside job that he got killed or whatever the fuck it is, what are they alluding to that?
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Because this happened six hours before his actual.
The actual event. Okay. So the conspiracy theory from the Internet dickheads and I'm not saying I subscribe to this theory. I'm just saying what the theory is on the Internet. Yeah.
I thought that was interesting to me that would indicate that there's a leak in the chain of somewhere of the information going out.
It's not necessarily that. Oh, the guy who did it went and updated because the theory has always been that this was Kevin Sullivan's ultimate revenge.
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Kevin Sullivan.
Because he because she was with Kevin Sullivan before and then left Kevin Sullivan to get with Ben Wah. And so like this was people say, oh, this was his fucking revenge or whatever.
His ultimate plan that took 25 years or whatever it was since it happened.
And he just plotted out and waited and then eventually went and went and fucking and killed them or did some shit or whatever.
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Right. Like, I don't really I don't believe that. But that's the conspiracy theory. And then the because it was updated earlier before it happened.
Oh, that was that everybody says that. And I'm like, you could take a look and see who the fuck did it.
Like, everything has a digital fucking mark on it. And this was in what 2004 or five.
So this was like, I mean, this was really before, like, VPNs were prevalent or existed probably even so like it's probably closer to 2006 and seven.
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2006 and seven. Maybe. I don't know. But anyways. Oh, yeah, you're right. I think it was 2007.
So basically, we get this whole thing about.
CTE, right. That's what that's what comes out of this whole this whole deal, because in an even funnier, almost WWE esque twist of of storyline,
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an actual guy who was a wrestler, Christopher Nowitzki, right. He is an actual neuroscientist.
Like that's he was because he I don't know if you remember him. Yeah.
He was like he was from Harvard or whatever. And he was like fucking the smart guy. Yeah.
I mean, he actually was. And so he fucking examined the brain or whatever.
It was donated. Yeah, because it was donated.
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So he determined he was the one that determined that, oh, he had for sure CTE.
And then this man said, that's horseshit. Yeah. But maybe you're on to something.
And then he donated fucking money for him to write, fulfill his research. Right.
And so basically, that's what initiated banning chair shots to the head or major things to the head.
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Right. And it worked out kind of for WWE's favor because at the time they were trying to get more sponsors and get bigger.
So they just said, OK, cool. With this banning of chair shots to the dome, we're just going to tone down the level of violence altogether.
And what's kind of crazy, if you kind of think about it, is that shit is what made wrestling kind of great.
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It was one of the one of the wasn't the whole picture. Right.
But it was one of the pieces of the puzzle was the violence. Right.
Like, that's one of the things that made it great. And that's why, like, when they went to this PG era and toned it down, we went back to 80s, like the late 80s, one dimensional characters.
Yeah. Bullshit. And it was to get really it was to get more spot.
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That's it was just get more money because if you can attract more fucking people to pay, then why not?
So we get that whole thing. We get Shane or not.
Shane, Stephanie and Triple H starting to be involved in the back end a lot more with the production side of things through this period.
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Yeah. Triple H is still kind of actively wrestling throughout this time, but he's slowly taking it, you know, take toning it down.
And then now, obviously, since he had his fucking heart attack or whatever the fuck thing that he had where he's got like that fucking pacemaker or some shit in his heart now, which they've never officially confirmed or said what his what actually happened.
Steroids. But it was again, it's there's there's this thing that Arnold Schwarzenegger had it.
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It's all the guys that do steroids and it's not all of them because Hogan hasn't had any heart issues as far as I'm aware.
That's the biggest irony is that Rick Flair and Hogan, especially Rick Flair, being a substance abuser is still alive, dude.
Eddie Guerrero, Crispin Wah, fucking Razor Ramon, dude.
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It's fucking incredible, dude. It is incredible how that's possible.
And you get these guys that have it's like I believe I forget the name of the medical term is, but it's this thing where because of the steroids, because, you know, your heart's a muscle.
Right. So like, obviously, steroids increase your muscle size.
So you get like an enlarged heart and it does something to your like aortic valve where it it makes it larger.
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But it doesn't your aortic valve becomes enlarged.
But the piece that connects out like that's the out part of the valve doesn't grow with it because it's not part of the muscle.
It's just like a vein. So you're just getting like a surge of blood.
So then what ends up happening over time is as it expands and this thing kind of expands with it.
But then eventually there's like a breaking point where I can't do it anymore.
You start to get this like leak. Oh, yeah. That's where kind of.
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Yeah. And so like that's where it begins to affect like the timing of your heart.
It's like it's a lot of fucking shit. And so then that's why they put in the pacemaker and that keeps everything going steadily or whatever.
So anyways, so we have that going on.
Shane comes back to kind of work with the WWE.
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That was in like 2016, I think, or 17, which kind of just whatever.
We get the WWE Network as part of this whole deal, which was to me one of the greatest outcomes of the PG fucking era was simply because of the fact that the only reason I think they made it is because people were clamoring for this shit.
And they knew they weren't going to give it to him on television anymore.
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So with them buying up all of these, you know, old tape libraries of all the old promotions that used to exist, that's what they started doing.
Two, three years before they started, they were going to do the network.
They started buying up and making these offers to people who owned like the AWA, the all these other ones that they had on the well that were on the WWE Network.
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They started making offers to those people like, hey, you got this tape library doing nothing with.
How would you give you? We give you too many dollars and you just fucking give it to us.
And they go, OK, and then they do it.
And then now all that shit is on what became the WWE Network.
It also I feel like they they came at the tail end.
Well, not the tail end, but there were a lot of first people or first first organizations that were dabbling with streaming services.
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And I think we just wised up to like, let's fucking see what happens, what we could do with wrestling.
And yeah, like it wasn't just solely the taped shit.
It was edging Christian had their own program.
Yeah, it was talk shows. It was like Stone Cold's podcast.
Right. Numerous things.
So it was like original content. And we haven't seen that since because now that they've been sold to Peacock and, you know, I don't know how long that deals in the last.
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But it's all it's all fragmented now.
And it kind of sucks because the UI for the WWE Network was actually pretty fucking good.
It's like, damn, you actually had something good.
You guys had it in house. But you're like, fuck it.
We'll just have it outsourced to somebody else, especially like Netflix or Peacock now.
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And now it's like it's not serviceable to what the WWE Network had where it was easy to search things.
It was easy, easy to find things. Yeah.
Whereas these other things, it's like I think maybe Netflix might be more feasible to like raw and shit.
But fucking Peacock has the goddamn the pay per views.
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So it's like, fuck. But we had it all in one spot.
Right. Well, on the network, that was the only downfall of the network was you had to wait like I think six weeks per their contract, their TV deals, six weeks until the latest shit came out.
So you still had to get it to watch the current stuff.
But that was, again, another huge thing that we got was for fucking nine ninety nine a month.
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You got every single live pay per view for the year, every single pay per view, man, but in WrestleMania included.
And what like we when I first initially subscribed to the network, I was a I don't know what they call it, but like a plank owner of it is the term of like I was one of the first people to download.
I was in that first group. As soon as it came up, I fucking subscribe.
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And I had been a subscriber basically since day one.
And the reason for that was, number one, because of I wanted to watch all the old shit because everything I had that was all old shit was just compilations and stuff of individual matches on DVDs and Blu Ray's.
And this was going to give me every fucking thing that had ever been done.
And it didn't happen overnight.
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But I initially subscribed for having it with the little shit that they had from the attitude era and also because of the pay per views, because WrestleMania at the time was 60 bucks.
And so for nine ninety nine, I'm paying 120 bucks for the year.
Half of that is covers my subscription covers WrestleMania half of it. And then the rest of the pay per views are all forty nine ninety nine or whatever.
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Three nine. Well, I think they were forty nine ninety nine.
So 50 bucks. I mean, shit, I'm almost I'm basically paying for WrestleMania and one pay per view.
And I get all fucking twelve of them. Yep. And that was worth it.
That was worth the nine ninety nine alone.
And once they started getting all the WCW stuff on there, that was when it really was like, oh, man, this is fucking excellent.
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And again, they still have it all on there on Peacock.
They just transfer everything over. But the W.W. network was fucking awesome.
They signed this multi billion dollar multi billion dollar deal deal with Peacock.
I think Vince had seen the writing on the wall and knew that some shit was probably couldn't keep this shit under wraps for it is one dimensional.
It's like you're putting all your eggs in a basket for an online service that is strictly about wrestling.
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It's not going to last.
I don't say it's not going to last, but it's too heavily in on one thing.
Well, I think what he did was they just sold it when it was at its peak.
I think they were like because I don't think they ever had a drop in fucking subscribers.
I think that it was, hey, we're going to sell the rights to do this.
So we don't have to do it anymore to someone else.
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And so now that's what they did.
They got like four billion dollars or whatever the fucking number was to do this shit.
And, you know, we have it on Peacock now we're getting into the Netflix.
I'm sure Netflix will eventually have everything.
But whatever.
Sure.
Another shitty documentary about the transition from Peacock cable television to Netflix.
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Yeah, I'm sure they'll have some stupid shitty documentary.
But then we get into the.
Vince stepping down in 2022 because of allegations of this.
Right.
Did they talk about the divas like revolution and shit?
A little bit in there. Yeah, they were talking about like, see, were they talking about?
Yeah, because Sable. Oh, that was the other thing like Sable one.
But she sued them for the sexual harassment stuff and won a bunch of money and then came and then came back to work for them
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and then continued for them to do the same exact sexual harassment type storylines, which was pretty fucking hilarious.
Yeah, that was she made out like, I mean, that's kind of the way it works, I guess.
So we had that the divas revolution, you had Trish Stratus talking about stuff saying, yeah, I was getting sexually harassed.
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But like, that's just kind of how it was.
Like, you know, I feel like she didn't contribute as much as I would like to.
I don't know if I'm looking for juicy bits, but just to say, like, I don't know, because it made it seem like she not to say she enjoyed it.
It's like, well, for all the shit that I went through, at least I came out ahead like I had a career and I made money and shit.
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But I also did these things.
So she doesn't really like have shame about it. It's like just something that happened.
I was actually expecting her more to say, fuck, man, like this work environment was kind of shitty.
Like I did all this stuff and I was only like a sex object to Vince McMahon for a majority of time.
And yeah, then I eventually got my titles and the women's title and shit.
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But we didn't really get anything from her. I at least personally.
Yeah, we really didn't.
Which, again, at the time of the recordings of most of these, I don't think that they felt that I don't think that that was the intent of this.
Oh, like, I think it was in this one or it was the previous one.
John T was asked, how will Vince McMahon be remembered? And I'm sure maybe it's episode six because they start getting to the retrospective idea of Vince McMahon or having some perspective.
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And John Cena refute like he basically gives a political answer.
He's like, well, I don't know. I'll leave that to other people to.
I'm like, oh, yeah, of course. Of course, Vince McMahon or rather John Cena would give a diplomatic answer like that.
Yeah. Yeah. So then we basically just get the whole deal with Janelle Grant, Janelle Grant.
I mean, he steps down in twenty twenty two comes back just six months later as the CEO.
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And then as we were as they're recording this, they get the news and then the interviews end up being canceled from here on out.
And they didn't really get to finish. Yeah. Whatever they set out to do. Yeah.
And so basically, this was already post the sale to Endeavor.
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And Vince then just once these other Janelle Grant allegations come out, he just fucking resigns immediately and then sells half a billion of the stock in TKO basically.
And then that's kind of like, you know, the end of it.
Everything is still like the Janelle Grant case hasn't been resolved, all of the yet, which I kind of I kind of feel like this was fucking premature of them.
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I feel like they should have waited to release this. If you had this horseshit, right, you might as well wait to release this when there's a resolution for that, because they had been sitting on this because this this shit always recorded in twenty twenty one.
I think. Yeah, that's when they started doing this.
So it's like, if you've been sitting on it for that long and then at the end in twenty twenty four, when Vince resigns, that was when your last those allegations came out or whatever.
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And that was like can be your last set of interviews.
Why not just fucking wait? Just just wait until this thing's resolved. Wait another couple of years. Like, you know, I'm saying, just see when this gets resolved so you can have a definitive like ending to it.
And now it's just left open ended, thus further ingraining the shittiness of this whole and uselessness of this whole documentary.
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This documentary fucking zero out of ten. This is shit. I fucking hated it.
Getting through these episodes is just painful because it's it's like everything has been covered by like Dark Side of the Ring.
WCW fucking documentary, the numerous documentaries that I've already been made. Yeah, that they make themselves covered a bunch of this shit. So like it just rehashed old old shit.
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And it never really got to the bottom of the whole point of the documentary about the lore of Vince McMahon himself, like his own personal life.
You got 10 bits and pieces of that. And but it was mostly to pertaining to the company itself, like the whole Linda McMahon and Shane McMahon, Linda McMahon being like in a catatonic state and Vince McMahon fucking cheating on his wife and shit.
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But that was like all kayfabe shit. But we never really got much more than, oh, I was abused as a kid and my dad was a dickhead.
Yeah. And that was it. Or like there were small nuggets about him having an encounter with Shane McMahon about ownership of the company or what they should do with about the UFC.
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Yeah. And him telling them like, all right, well, if you want to do that, use your own fucking money or you're going to stab me right now.
And he's like, no, I can't do that. And he's like, that's why you're a bitch. That's why you're soft.
You can't fucking kill your own father. Yeah. So I don't know. It doesn't change my perception about Vince McMahon. It's like what you would expect anyways.
So if anything, it just it was an eye opening thing for maybe for casual viewers, even if that because if you're already familiar with kind of wrestling or if you're not really familiar with wrestling, this would all be new information to you, which I think is what this was probably catered towards.
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Yeah, it was for people that had no idea about this. And to me, it was it was sold as, oh, we're going to get to the bottom of these sexual harassment allegations.
And that was like not even really any portion of this at all. So, I mean, there was like maybe 10 or 15 percent of this was that. And it's like, that's not enough.
You can't sell it to me on that and then not deliver it. So fuck these guys. Fuck Netflix. Fuck them all. We made this documentary garbage.
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Hopefully they don't fuck. Hopefully these assholes aren't involved with the production of of raw on Netflix so they don't fuck that shit up.
Fuck whatever. I guess we'll see. Yep. Anyways. All right. That'll be it. Fucking fuck these guys.
Also, stay tuned for the next episode where I'm going to go on a fucking rant about WWE being a piece of shit and going too far.
So anyways, never getting invited to WrestleMania ever again. Fucking for sure.
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Well, the natural lag, Jet Swag, has said time and time again that there's only one
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And that's, whoo!
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Oh yeah, here we welcome everyone to a brand new wonderful episode of Game Rage Rasslin'.
My name is Josh, here today with good buddy Adam.
Welcome to the Game Rage Rasslin' Podcast, you son of a bitch.
And yes, we are going to be talking about the season, well, I mean, I'm assuming that
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I don't know if this is a season for now, series.
I don't know if it's over, if they're going to do more or what, but this is it.
This is episode six of the Mr. McMahon series.
This fucking series, I hate it so much.
It was sold, it was sold as this piece.
Revolutionary.
It was going to be a damning piece.
Of evidence against Vince McMahon and his sexual harassment.
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And it did nothing, it did nothing.
None of that.
It was, it just, all it did was expound upon what was already told.
Yeah, it just rehashed all the same shit.
And that's basically, we learned essentially nothing new.
So, except for maybe that Vince McMahon's father fucking molested him probably or some shit, I don't know.
Or beat his ass.
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Beat his ass at least.
Stepfather.
Yeah, stepfather.
And his real dad was negligent towards that.
Yeah, just completely negligent.
But anyways, before we get into it, if you want to follow our shit, go to Game Rage Magazine
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That's really going to take our shit to the next level.
To the next level.
If you could just please fucking do that for me, I would greatly appreciate it.
And, you know, if you could stop me from having to go by North Korean fucking bots to subscribe to our YouTube channel,
I'd appreciate that.
I'd like to do this for real, not paying for it.
We don't actually do that.
No, we don't.
I'm just saying, I'm not going to do that, but it's funny.
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I am considering just deleting social media altogether because fuck this, it seems like it's doing nothing for us.
Yeah, I haven't touched it in a week.
I don't even, well, whatever.
You can go there if you want.
It still exists.
Also, I'm considering deleting the website too, just because I haven't plugged it in like a month.
And I didn't even look at the analytics of it yet, but I think like the month before,
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there was like three people went there.
So I'm curious to see what, since I haven't plugged it, what it's at this month.
I might have to look right now, but anyway.
The entire population of Antarctica checked out our website.
Checked out our website, yeah.
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Yeet.
Yeet.
Yeet as a motherfucker.
So this whole thing is about Jey Uso and him main eventing and winning the IC, nah, I wish.
So let's get to the main beats of episode six, which is the beginning of the ruthless aggression era.
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Crisp and wah unloaded, you know, taking out his rage with his damaged brain.
He unloaded, he took the burden of life off of himself and his family unsubscribed from the YouTube channel of life and took himself out and his kid and his wife.
And so, OK, a little like because obviously, like I said, this thing said nothing new, but a conspiracy theory that exists about Crispin Wah thing.
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Crispin?
Crispin Wah.
So allegedly, and I have seen some screenshots and alleged proof of this, but supposedly, like several hours before it was reported in the news,
Crispin Wah's Wikipedia page was and his wife, Nancy Ben was Wikipedia.
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The Wikipedia page were updated with deceased and the date of the death, hours before, it was like six or seven hours before it was reported.
So, OK, I don't believe that because as it is Wikipedia, you can do that in the browser.
Can you change the time of when you did it?
It's not necessarily about when, like, unless you as a Wiki user are editing the thing, but the thing I was going to say was I can edit it.
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Yeah, because I know I can look at the if I open up the console for the browser, I can edit the element of where it says date of birth and like end date or like the day that he died.
I could do that manually.
But you could do that as a Wiki user.
So it's like that one's I don't know if I believe.
But it was before it got reported.
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So either someone had inside information and went on there and did it, which really Occam's razor.
You look at the lowest common denominator, the most likely scenario would be that someone who was within the WWE went in and did that themselves once they got the news that he was dead and went ahead and did it.
Or, you know, someone within the system that would have known about it or within like the maybe it was someone within that sheriff's department that fucking works there that responded to the call of them.
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The welfare check or whatever it was could have been that.
All right, if there's any teeth to what you're saying, the only thing that you could really take you can take as a grain of minutiae or a minutiae of a grain or vice versa.
I mean, dude, I'm sure there's recordings of because this pay-per-view happened where Owen Hart died, right?
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Right. Yeah.
They have to have that locked away in a fucking vault or whatever.
Or maybe they just deleted that though.
I'm sure it's somewhere.
I'm sure it exists still somewhere.
I think Vince probably jerks off to it like that's probably I think there's numerous things that the WWE has covered up.
And not to say that I think Owen Hart or Owen Hart, I think Crispin Wodd legitimately did it. But if if we're going to like even entertain the idea that this was an inside job that he got killed or whatever the fuck it is, what are they alluding to that?
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Because this happened six hours before his actual.
The actual event. Okay. So the conspiracy theory from the Internet dickheads and I'm not saying I subscribe to this theory. I'm just saying what the theory is on the Internet. Yeah.
I thought that was interesting to me that would indicate that there's a leak in the chain of somewhere of the information going out.
It's not necessarily that. Oh, the guy who did it went and updated because the theory has always been that this was Kevin Sullivan's ultimate revenge.
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Kevin Sullivan.
Because he because she was with Kevin Sullivan before and then left Kevin Sullivan to get with Ben Wah. And so like this was people say, oh, this was his fucking revenge or whatever.
His ultimate plan that took 25 years or whatever it was since it happened.
And he just plotted out and waited and then eventually went and went and fucking and killed them or did some shit or whatever.
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Right. Like, I don't really I don't believe that. But that's the conspiracy theory. And then the because it was updated earlier before it happened.
Oh, that was that everybody says that. And I'm like, you could take a look and see who the fuck did it.
Like, everything has a digital fucking mark on it. And this was in what 2004 or five.
So this was like, I mean, this was really before, like, VPNs were prevalent or existed probably even so like it's probably closer to 2006 and seven.
(08:02):
2006 and seven. Maybe. I don't know. But anyways. Oh, yeah, you're right. I think it was 2007.
So basically, we get this whole thing about.
CTE, right. That's what that's what comes out of this whole this whole deal, because in an even funnier, almost WWE esque twist of of storyline,
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an actual guy who was a wrestler, Christopher Nowitzki, right. He is an actual neuroscientist.
Like that's he was because he I don't know if you remember him. Yeah.
He was like he was from Harvard or whatever. And he was like fucking the smart guy. Yeah.
I mean, he actually was. And so he fucking examined the brain or whatever.
It was donated. Yeah, because it was donated.
(08:49):
So he determined he was the one that determined that, oh, he had for sure CTE.
And then this man said, that's horseshit. Yeah. But maybe you're on to something.
And then he donated fucking money for him to write, fulfill his research. Right.
And so basically, that's what initiated banning chair shots to the head or major things to the head.
(09:10):
Right. And it worked out kind of for WWE's favor because at the time they were trying to get more sponsors and get bigger.
So they just said, OK, cool. With this banning of chair shots to the dome, we're just going to tone down the level of violence altogether.
And what's kind of crazy, if you kind of think about it, is that shit is what made wrestling kind of great.
(09:37):
It was one of the one of the wasn't the whole picture. Right.
But it was one of the pieces of the puzzle was the violence. Right.
Like, that's one of the things that made it great. And that's why, like, when they went to this PG era and toned it down, we went back to 80s, like the late 80s, one dimensional characters.
Yeah. Bullshit. And it was to get really it was to get more spot.
(09:59):
That's it was just get more money because if you can attract more fucking people to pay, then why not?
So we get that whole thing. We get Shane or not.
Shane, Stephanie and Triple H starting to be involved in the back end a lot more with the production side of things through this period.
(10:21):
Yeah. Triple H is still kind of actively wrestling throughout this time, but he's slowly taking it, you know, take toning it down.
And then now, obviously, since he had his fucking heart attack or whatever the fuck thing that he had where he's got like that fucking pacemaker or some shit in his heart now, which they've never officially confirmed or said what his what actually happened.
Steroids. But it was again, it's there's there's this thing that Arnold Schwarzenegger had it.
(10:47):
It's all the guys that do steroids and it's not all of them because Hogan hasn't had any heart issues as far as I'm aware.
That's the biggest irony is that Rick Flair and Hogan, especially Rick Flair, being a substance abuser is still alive, dude.
Eddie Guerrero, Crispin Wah, fucking Razor Ramon, dude.
(11:11):
It's fucking incredible, dude. It is incredible how that's possible.
And you get these guys that have it's like I believe I forget the name of the medical term is, but it's this thing where because of the steroids, because, you know, your heart's a muscle.
Right. So like, obviously, steroids increase your muscle size.
So you get like an enlarged heart and it does something to your like aortic valve where it it makes it larger.
(11:34):
But it doesn't your aortic valve becomes enlarged.
But the piece that connects out like that's the out part of the valve doesn't grow with it because it's not part of the muscle.
It's just like a vein. So you're just getting like a surge of blood.
So then what ends up happening over time is as it expands and this thing kind of expands with it.
But then eventually there's like a breaking point where I can't do it anymore.
You start to get this like leak. Oh, yeah. That's where kind of.
(11:56):
Yeah. And so like that's where it begins to affect like the timing of your heart.
It's like it's a lot of fucking shit. And so then that's why they put in the pacemaker and that keeps everything going steadily or whatever.
So anyways, so we have that going on.
Shane comes back to kind of work with the WWE.
(12:19):
That was in like 2016, I think, or 17, which kind of just whatever.
We get the WWE Network as part of this whole deal, which was to me one of the greatest outcomes of the PG fucking era was simply because of the fact that the only reason I think they made it is because people were clamoring for this shit.
And they knew they weren't going to give it to him on television anymore.
(12:42):
So with them buying up all of these, you know, old tape libraries of all the old promotions that used to exist, that's what they started doing.
Two, three years before they started, they were going to do the network.
They started buying up and making these offers to people who owned like the AWA, the all these other ones that they had on the well that were on the WWE Network.
(13:03):
They started making offers to those people like, hey, you got this tape library doing nothing with.
How would you give you? We give you too many dollars and you just fucking give it to us.
And they go, OK, and then they do it.
And then now all that shit is on what became the WWE Network.
It also I feel like they they came at the tail end.
Well, not the tail end, but there were a lot of first people or first first organizations that were dabbling with streaming services.
(13:31):
And I think we just wised up to like, let's fucking see what happens, what we could do with wrestling.
And yeah, like it wasn't just solely the taped shit.
It was edging Christian had their own program.
Yeah, it was talk shows. It was like Stone Cold's podcast.
Right. Numerous things.
So it was like original content. And we haven't seen that since because now that they've been sold to Peacock and, you know, I don't know how long that deals in the last.
(13:59):
But it's all it's all fragmented now.
And it kind of sucks because the UI for the WWE Network was actually pretty fucking good.
It's like, damn, you actually had something good.
You guys had it in house. But you're like, fuck it.
We'll just have it outsourced to somebody else, especially like Netflix or Peacock now.
(14:20):
And now it's like it's not serviceable to what the WWE Network had where it was easy to search things.
It was easy, easy to find things. Yeah.
Whereas these other things, it's like I think maybe Netflix might be more feasible to like raw and shit.
But fucking Peacock has the goddamn the pay per views.
(14:45):
So it's like, fuck. But we had it all in one spot.
Right. Well, on the network, that was the only downfall of the network was you had to wait like I think six weeks per their contract, their TV deals, six weeks until the latest shit came out.
So you still had to get it to watch the current stuff.
But that was, again, another huge thing that we got was for fucking nine ninety nine a month.
(15:08):
You got every single live pay per view for the year, every single pay per view, man, but in WrestleMania included.
And what like we when I first initially subscribed to the network, I was a I don't know what they call it, but like a plank owner of it is the term of like I was one of the first people to download.
I was in that first group. As soon as it came up, I fucking subscribe.
(15:31):
And I had been a subscriber basically since day one.
And the reason for that was, number one, because of I wanted to watch all the old shit because everything I had that was all old shit was just compilations and stuff of individual matches on DVDs and Blu Ray's.
And this was going to give me every fucking thing that had ever been done.
And it didn't happen overnight.
(15:52):
But I initially subscribed for having it with the little shit that they had from the attitude era and also because of the pay per views, because WrestleMania at the time was 60 bucks.
And so for nine ninety nine, I'm paying 120 bucks for the year.
Half of that is covers my subscription covers WrestleMania half of it. And then the rest of the pay per views are all forty nine ninety nine or whatever.
(16:15):
Three nine. Well, I think they were forty nine ninety nine.
So 50 bucks. I mean, shit, I'm almost I'm basically paying for WrestleMania and one pay per view.
And I get all fucking twelve of them. Yep. And that was worth it.
That was worth the nine ninety nine alone.
And once they started getting all the WCW stuff on there, that was when it really was like, oh, man, this is fucking excellent.
(16:36):
And again, they still have it all on there on Peacock.
They just transfer everything over. But the W.W. network was fucking awesome.
They signed this multi billion dollar multi billion dollar deal deal with Peacock.
I think Vince had seen the writing on the wall and knew that some shit was probably couldn't keep this shit under wraps for it is one dimensional.
It's like you're putting all your eggs in a basket for an online service that is strictly about wrestling.
(17:00):
It's not going to last.
I don't say it's not going to last, but it's too heavily in on one thing.
Well, I think what he did was they just sold it when it was at its peak.
I think they were like because I don't think they ever had a drop in fucking subscribers.
I think that it was, hey, we're going to sell the rights to do this.
So we don't have to do it anymore to someone else.
(17:21):
And so now that's what they did.
They got like four billion dollars or whatever the fucking number was to do this shit.
And, you know, we have it on Peacock now we're getting into the Netflix.
I'm sure Netflix will eventually have everything.
But whatever.
Sure.
Another shitty documentary about the transition from Peacock cable television to Netflix.
(17:43):
Yeah, I'm sure they'll have some stupid shitty documentary.
But then we get into the.
Vince stepping down in 2022 because of allegations of this.
Right.
Did they talk about the divas like revolution and shit?
A little bit in there. Yeah, they were talking about like, see, were they talking about?
Yeah, because Sable. Oh, that was the other thing like Sable one.
But she sued them for the sexual harassment stuff and won a bunch of money and then came and then came back to work for them
(18:09):
and then continued for them to do the same exact sexual harassment type storylines, which was pretty fucking hilarious.
Yeah, that was she made out like, I mean, that's kind of the way it works, I guess.
So we had that the divas revolution, you had Trish Stratus talking about stuff saying, yeah, I was getting sexually harassed.
(18:30):
But like, that's just kind of how it was.
Like, you know, I feel like she didn't contribute as much as I would like to.
I don't know if I'm looking for juicy bits, but just to say, like, I don't know, because it made it seem like she not to say she enjoyed it.
It's like, well, for all the shit that I went through, at least I came out ahead like I had a career and I made money and shit.
(18:53):
But I also did these things.
So she doesn't really like have shame about it. It's like just something that happened.
I was actually expecting her more to say, fuck, man, like this work environment was kind of shitty.
Like I did all this stuff and I was only like a sex object to Vince McMahon for a majority of time.
And yeah, then I eventually got my titles and the women's title and shit.
(19:16):
But we didn't really get anything from her. I at least personally.
Yeah, we really didn't.
Which, again, at the time of the recordings of most of these, I don't think that they felt that I don't think that that was the intent of this.
Oh, like, I think it was in this one or it was the previous one.
John T was asked, how will Vince McMahon be remembered? And I'm sure maybe it's episode six because they start getting to the retrospective idea of Vince McMahon or having some perspective.
(19:51):
And John Cena refute like he basically gives a political answer.
He's like, well, I don't know. I'll leave that to other people to.
I'm like, oh, yeah, of course. Of course, Vince McMahon or rather John Cena would give a diplomatic answer like that.
Yeah. Yeah. So then we basically just get the whole deal with Janelle Grant, Janelle Grant.
I mean, he steps down in twenty twenty two comes back just six months later as the CEO.
(20:18):
And then as we were as they're recording this, they get the news and then the interviews end up being canceled from here on out.
And they didn't really get to finish. Yeah. Whatever they set out to do. Yeah.
And so basically, this was already post the sale to Endeavor.
(20:39):
And Vince then just once these other Janelle Grant allegations come out, he just fucking resigns immediately and then sells half a billion of the stock in TKO basically.
And then that's kind of like, you know, the end of it.
Everything is still like the Janelle Grant case hasn't been resolved, all of the yet, which I kind of I kind of feel like this was fucking premature of them.
(21:08):
I feel like they should have waited to release this. If you had this horseshit, right, you might as well wait to release this when there's a resolution for that, because they had been sitting on this because this this shit always recorded in twenty twenty one.
I think. Yeah, that's when they started doing this.
So it's like, if you've been sitting on it for that long and then at the end in twenty twenty four, when Vince resigns, that was when your last those allegations came out or whatever.
(21:33):
And that was like can be your last set of interviews.
Why not just fucking wait? Just just wait until this thing's resolved. Wait another couple of years. Like, you know, I'm saying, just see when this gets resolved so you can have a definitive like ending to it.
And now it's just left open ended, thus further ingraining the shittiness of this whole and uselessness of this whole documentary.
(21:54):
This documentary fucking zero out of ten. This is shit. I fucking hated it.
Getting through these episodes is just painful because it's it's like everything has been covered by like Dark Side of the Ring.
WCW fucking documentary, the numerous documentaries that I've already been made. Yeah, that they make themselves covered a bunch of this shit. So like it just rehashed old old shit.
(22:17):
And it never really got to the bottom of the whole point of the documentary about the lore of Vince McMahon himself, like his own personal life.
You got 10 bits and pieces of that. And but it was mostly to pertaining to the company itself, like the whole Linda McMahon and Shane McMahon, Linda McMahon being like in a catatonic state and Vince McMahon fucking cheating on his wife and shit.
(22:45):
But that was like all kayfabe shit. But we never really got much more than, oh, I was abused as a kid and my dad was a dickhead.
Yeah. And that was it. Or like there were small nuggets about him having an encounter with Shane McMahon about ownership of the company or what they should do with about the UFC.
(23:06):
Yeah. And him telling them like, all right, well, if you want to do that, use your own fucking money or you're going to stab me right now.
And he's like, no, I can't do that. And he's like, that's why you're a bitch. That's why you're soft.
You can't fucking kill your own father. Yeah. So I don't know. It doesn't change my perception about Vince McMahon. It's like what you would expect anyways.
So if anything, it just it was an eye opening thing for maybe for casual viewers, even if that because if you're already familiar with kind of wrestling or if you're not really familiar with wrestling, this would all be new information to you, which I think is what this was probably catered towards.
(23:43):
Yeah, it was for people that had no idea about this. And to me, it was it was sold as, oh, we're going to get to the bottom of these sexual harassment allegations.
And that was like not even really any portion of this at all. So, I mean, there was like maybe 10 or 15 percent of this was that. And it's like, that's not enough.
You can't sell it to me on that and then not deliver it. So fuck these guys. Fuck Netflix. Fuck them all. We made this documentary garbage.
(24:09):
Hopefully they don't fuck. Hopefully these assholes aren't involved with the production of of raw on Netflix so they don't fuck that shit up.
Fuck whatever. I guess we'll see. Yep. Anyways. All right. That'll be it. Fucking fuck these guys.
Also, stay tuned for the next episode where I'm going to go on a fucking rant about WWE being a piece of shit and going too far.
So anyways, never getting invited to WrestleMania ever again. Fucking for sure.
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