December 16, 2024 • 26 mins
Adam and Josh discuss Saturday Night's Main Event with special guest host Jesse "The Body" Ventura.
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Yeah, anyways, my name is Josh, I'm here today with good buddy Adam.
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Greetings.
And today we're going to talk about fucking Saturday Night's Main Event.
Just happened yesterday.
They called it Saturday Night's Shit Show.
They should have just called it, eh, maybe we should have did this next Tuesday's Main Event.
That's what they should have done on a random ass day of the week.
Anyways, I do have a couple positive things to say about it surprisingly, but probably not what you're thinking.
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So, alright, Saturday Night's Main Event.
I will say this.
The opening of the show, like the intro that they did.
I skipped it.
Okay, I watched it.
It was very, I thought it was a very trying to go back to that nostalgic feel of like maybe we're leaning towards
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getting back to the attitude era of wrestling,
because they were heavily highlighting a lot of that, some of that stuff, even though like Saturday Night's Main Event wasn't really even a part of it,
but they were highlighting some stuff, and I, okay, cool, I got this real nostalgic feel.
So I'm like, okay, that's good.
When they opened it up, I was very happy to see that it wasn't the same fucking set piece that they use for every goddamn thing that they had.
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It more or less is.
Well, it was slightly different, alright.
They had, it was themed a little more.
They didn't have the fucking screen back there, and it's just the thing.
This was a little bit different.
No, it's still the same thing for the PLEs where they have, it's like the entrance to the arena for the ground floor for like pretty much any stadium.
Yeah, they have it draped in black, and then they have the little fucking opening with the little hallway monitor, screen boards or whatever.
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But I will say that the lighting just adjacent to it, it was rather atypical of them because it was like these blue beams of light, and then you had the Saturday Night Main Event logo on the sign.
Okay, cool, like this is somewhat different, aside from the screen boards that they're done in a typical fashion, and then you had the nostalgic metal handrails or the guardrails that you would expect in the 80s or whatever.
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Yeah, so I thought that was cool.
We also, I will say, I am not a fan of Pat McAfee at all.
No, he's grown sour on me over the last six months.
Yeah, I am fucking over it, and they need to fucking get rid of this guy.
I cannot stand it.
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The Jesse Ventura and like that segment, those segments, they were not fucking complete utter garbage shit shows.
They were pretty coherent.
They were pretty even.
They were middle of the road for me.
Yeah, but see going in, I was expecting this was just going to be him just, conspiracy theories, I used to be the governor, blah blah blah.
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Well, I mean, it basically was that because he told Pat McAfee and Michael Cole at one point, hey, do you guys know why you get to do this?
Because of me.
Right, yeah, that was when he went down there to do it for the final match or whatever.
During the actual event when he was in there and he was up in that area, because he only did ringside commentary for the last main event or whatever.
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When he was up at the top, it was very clear.
And this is also what I don't understand is they had that other guy, fucking, what's his name, Joe Tesatore or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
That dude, like you kind of fucking hide it a little better that they're reading off of a script.
This dude kept looking down at the script to read it and you could tell Jesse Ventura was also doing that because he probably couldn't remember what the lines were.
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But he had sunglasses on, so it wasn't as obvious.
But this dude literally straight moving his eyes from he looks at Jesse Ventura and then he says a sentence and he goes and looks straight at the fucking paper on the table that's right in front of him.
And then goes and I'm like, Jesus Christ, man, that's bad.
That's AIDS.
You know how you prevent moments like that from just letting people go off the cuff and not fucking doing a script?
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I know it seems counterintuitive to read off a script and not have those moments because you're prepared and you don't have to think about what you say.
But, man, I feel like we need to go back to that where people are just saying what they want.
Yeah.
Just a general idea.
You talk to the wrestler that you're going up against and if you have to cut a promo against one another like the following week or whatever, and you kind of give a general gist, but you don't say the finer details so that you can get like a genuine reaction.
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And maybe that'll create a moment.
But I don't know, man.
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyway, so we had we got five matches out of the deal.
I skipped a lot of them.
Yeah, I know.
I watched most of them.
I watched the Triple Threat match.
Okay.
The World Heavyweight Championship, which I actually I think liked more than what you had to say about what your favorite match was.
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Yeah.
Then we had Sami Zayn versus Drew McIntyre, which I also checked out because you watched it.
And then I had to tune in for the Cody Rhodes versus Kevin Owens.
Yeah, you got to watch that.
All right.
So were you going to go?
I was just going to go match by match just the way it was now like we normally do.
Okay.
So starting off, we got Cody or fucking Sami Zayn versus Drew McIntyre.
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I thought that this was the best wrestled match of the night.
You thought so?
I thought that of the wrestling involved, this was the best one.
The Triple Threat match.
I can't I just can't give it that because listen and again, I'm going to harp on the fucking out of shape in this because you could tell again that Gunther was getting fucking super gassed in this match.
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And so was Damien Priest.
But you got that third guy, you got Finn Balor in there to alleviate that so people can take breaks and take rest.
There were not for it being a Triple Threat match.
It was a lot of one on one fighting with one guy out.
You know what I'm saying?
And yeah.
And I think Finn Balor was on the outs like most of the time and he would break up.
Yeah, he would come in when they need a break.
He'd come in and that's like his whole job for the match was like you're just going to sit out in the corner and then let them do a little wrestling.
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And then because they're fat and can't do anything, you're going to come in and let them get a break.
And then he just spammed the fuck out of the sling.
I don't know if you noticed that he spammed the fuck out of sling blade every five seconds, anytime that they needed a spot for him to do something like sling blade, sling blade, sling blade.
And so yeah, I I didn't from an entertainment aspect.
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That match was the triple threat was probably more entertaining because there were three guys in there so they could switch in and out and like mix it up like they were.
I thought the pacing was better than the Sammy Zane match, even though that one was good.
And also the fact that Finn Balor pissed me off with the number of sling blades.
But the pacing was good.
There was so much shit going on.
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It felt chaotic.
It felt real in so many words that it wasn't just like choreographed like the way a Will Ospreay or Ricochet.
That's right.
It looked like these guys were legitimately fighting like, all right, cool.
Like this is what I want in terms of a match for triple of triple threat that there's a lot of chaos going on.
And then as I was saying before, Sammy Zane and Drew McIntyre, I think, put on the second best match of the night.
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Yeah, I know the reason I'm giving the singles match the the edge is just because I felt like everything was on point with this match.
I felt the storytelling of the match was on par.
The wrestling was good and the pacing was good.
The other one, I felt like it was just missing.
Like, I still just can't care about I don't even care about Sammy Zane and Drew McIntyre.
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But like when they got into the match, they got me invested in the storyline.
Their match got me invested in the storyline of them, too.
I still could give a shit about fucking Damien Priest, fucking Orphan Balor.
I could give no shit. And honestly, I'm starting to not give a fuck about Gunther.
I'm starting to think that dude's got to go.
I think we need to make a change and or send him to Smackdown, send him to the B show.
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That's probably what's going to end up happening anyways.
I think the only thing that was of note besides the pacing.
Being pretty decent was if you're going to make your champion look strong and of all people that could do like, you know, one percent damage to to Gunther.
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Finn Balor did a chop on him and he just like kind of stood tall.
He like no sold it.
Yeah, he no sold it. And and then he ended up pinning him in the match after he got Damien Priest out of the ring.
I can't remember exactly what the combination was, but he did something into a power bomb.
Yeah. At the very end of the match.
And I call this. That was the other thing.
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I mean, Gunther botched that fucking power bomb of Damien Priest on the fucking stage.
That was huge. So that he fucked that up real bad.
He salvaged it. He did.
I'll give him that. But the second he started to lift him, I'm like, oh, he doesn't have enough fucking momentum to get him up.
And it sure as shit like halfway through, he fucking stopped.
Put it back on and then fucking somehow pulled it out.
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But still also Damien Priest didn't fucking help him either.
No, he literally just was like he like ragdolled him.
And I was like, man, you should be trying to sit up at least like, yeah, like help.
Yeah, because he was pulling up and he was still like flailing.
Yeah, he was day's ragdoll like an idiot.
I'm like, Jesus Christ. Yeah.
So I thought he was going to end up hitting his head on the.
That's what I thought. Yeah. I was like, oh, this is going to end poorly.
Yeah. But so yeah.
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So then so the the so whatever I guess we basically just covered those two matches right now anyway, so we can just whatever you thought the triple threat was the match of the night.
Number two, we just have them reversed in the order of that.
Right. I did end up because I watched it today because I was because Katie was taking a nap.
And so I was watching it with I finished watching it with with Chloe downstairs.
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And she she asked me she's like, oh, why are those guys fighting?
And I was like, oh, well, you see, it's because I started explaining like the storyline a little bit to her.
She's like, huh? That's a shiny belt.
She's like, I can see why they would fight for that.
And then it and then we got to the women's match was like with I think it was the women's US title match or whatever.
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That was the next one. She's like, oh, there's girls.
And I was like, yeah, she's like, oh, and so I actually ended up watching that whole match because Chloe was into it and she wanted to watch it.
And I will say the women's match, the two women's matches on here were not the worst fucking matches I've seen.
They weren't great by any standard, but they were just they were serviceable.
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They were they were OK. The only thing I know about the Liv Morgan versus you, Sky, was that you Sky fucking deep the shit out of her nose.
Yeah. Yeah. It was like a very stiff, very stiff shot.
Yeah. So and then obviously, Ria Ripley, which this also didn't fucking make any sense.
Why does Ria Ripley come out at the end of the match when she's at the fucking the thing, the head of the what is it like by the entrance and just stands there just like stares at her and just does nothing.
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I'm like, this was stupid. At least fight or do something or try like why you just cut you just came out to make an appearance and stand there.
And that's it. Like you didn't talk shit. You didn't do anything.
You stood there and looked like an asshole. And then it just it didn't do anything for me.
And I'm like, honestly, like she looked kind of weird, too.
Like, I don't know if she like did something different, but like she looked kind of fucking weird.
And I'm like, I don't like this. This is not this is no bueno.
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So fuck out of here with all that. But anyways, we go on now to the main event.
Kevin Owens versus Sammy Zane or, I mean, a fucking shit ass Cody Rhodes.
I will say I did like the obvious resurgence of the winged eagle winged eagle bell winged wings and things.
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The winged wings belt. I like that belt. That's one of my favorites with like top five belts.
That's not the original, right? No. Well, OK.
It's the same. Essentially, it just doesn't have it has WWE at the top instead of the WWF logo.
But it's very similar. Now, here's the other thing. It looks small. Yes.
Here's that. So, OK. So somebody pointed out online and I think they might be right that they didn't have a new belt made for for this to showcase that.
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They just grabbed one off of the store like the day because you could buy that.
You've been able to buy that belt. That's like a replica belt that like we could buy.
And because they were saying how when Charles Robinson was holding it up the way he held it, they're like, no, you always got to do this.
And he's like, oh, you want to know why? He's like, because if you look right here, you can see the stitching.
And he got the one from the shop and he's like, look at the stitching. It's the exact same.
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So he's like, if they fold that belt in half, the leather could start to crack and then you'll see the cardboard shit on the inside of it.
And so he's like, I think these motherfuckers just put up a goddamn.
They just got one off the shop and they were just like, fuck it, just throw that on. It's not going to be out there very long.
No one's going to notice. And so I think you might be right, because if you look at the original belt, you can tell the leather.
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Like, and also when you look at the other belts, the real ones, the leather is different. Like this was just different.
It seemed like this was it was off. There's something off about it. And that's what.
So that's my theory. I am 100 percent cosigning that fucking theory that they used the fake fucking belt.
Like it was just a replica you can buy off the shop, which is kind of ass. That's terrible.
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Now, granted, Cody Rhodes deserves nothing but the worst.
So I actually think that's very fitting of his fucking title.
It's very, it's very, it's very spot on for a sheet title run is just give him a fake fucking belt.
The match itself, it wasn't fucking horrific.
There there were all those stupid Cody cutters, those stupid ass Cody cutters and then RKOs out of nowhere.
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The table fucking didn't break, you know.
The numerous times that well, numerous in the fact that it was only twice.
But Cody running into the oh, that's the rep, the refs and to have it end in that way.
It's like, OK, so Cody can't win in a straight match.
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Also, he fucking dumped him on a chair, too. Like he did the fucking crossroads.
He was the one that ended up on the fucking chair. His back landed flat on the fucking thing and he no sold the chair.
Yes. But anyways, but Kevin Owens is dead from his head hitting the chair.
Yeah. So OK. And so that's another thing.
I'm not a fan of referee fucking getting knocked out shit because it's been overplayed.
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It's been overdone, especially in his matches. Yes.
And we got it twice in the same two times in the same match.
Also, I do think there might be a storyline reason for this.
I think the Cody Rhodes heel turn is going to start to come because this I mean, using the chair.
That's that's a heel move. Right. But he used it first. Right.
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Kevin Owens used it first, of course. But he doesn't even use the weapon usage at all is still a heel maneuver.
That's you're now on the path to you starting to use it first. Right.
So I I have a feeling that what's going to end up happening because there is a rule and obviously we all know the script.
But there is a rule in the WWE that referees must be inside the ring when they count a three count
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because Charles Robinson was outside of the ring when he counted that three count that technically should not.
The match should have not ended there. So I love how there's an actual rule for wrestling
when it seemingly is inconceivable that there are rules. Right.
Because there are actual rules like there are rules.
If you if you look at they have a whole rulebook and everything, even though they never fucking follow it.
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But it's there for convenience, for storytelling purposes.
So my opinion is I believe that at January 6th, Monday Night Raw,
the Cody Rhodes versus Kevin Owens in a rematch for the championship is going to fucking happen again.
I disagree. I think that they're going to they're going to use that as some bullshit or maybe they'll make it a triple threat.
There's going to be a title match involving Cody Rhodes on Raw Netflix.
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I think Kevin Owens will be involved and hell, maybe it'll be maybe a triple threat with fucking Randy Orton.
But maybe they'll even make it a four way match and throw some other asshole in there.
Who knows? Maybe they'll throw Finn Balor in there just for the fuck of it.
Like he's good at wasting time. My personal theory about the outcome.
Wait, shit. Well, there's we haven't even talked about that.
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Have we? What the end? The end, the post post.
No, we haven't got there yet. But I think the best spot of the night for me and probably deserving.
Well, not in conjunction with what happens at the end of main event.
I think this proves to me that Cody or rather Kevin Owens is worthy of holding the title right now.
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He did like it. It wasn't a Falcon Arrow. I think it was like a fucking fisherman's hook like Muscle Buster.
Yeah. I'm like, fuck yeah, dude. That's a sweet ass move that you it looks lethal.
Yeah, it does. And now that we could talk about the end of the end of Saturday night's main event with Kevin Owens
returning to the ring and then just beating being Cody Rhodes ass and then doing a what was it?
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Like a shoving match with fucking Triple H or whatever the fuck you did after that.
No, no, I'm talking about the move itself that basically planted Cody's head or look like he planted his head into the mat.
Yeah, I don't fucking remember what it was that he did.
Well, we'll just say it's some kind of pilo driver. I don't know what the fuck it was.
But in any case, the fact that they're incorporating moves that look lethal and in some cases they can be if they're not performed right.
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Especially that one. Yeah. And also the the Muscle Buster in the corner off the top row.
That signals to me that they're willing to let guys do those type of things when for many years or at least for perhaps the past
10 or 15 years when Tyson Kidd got injured from Samoa Joe's Muscle Buster that we're now returning to more lethal moves in the ring once more.
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And I don't know, man, for Kevin Owens to do that, that must be a pretty decent nod that he could be possibly holding the title.
But as far as the implications of what could happen for the future, I think what happens is Cody Rhodes possibly vacates the title and they have like a tournament, a tournament for the title
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because it keeps Cody from actually losing the title to Kevin Owens and then they can kind of build in a story if they end up taking this to WrestleMania that that he could be the champion in the interim.
But then they. Yeah. And then Cody Rhodes turns heel at WrestleMania. And that's how you end.
That's I mean, listen, I'm in favor of a Cody Rhodes heel turn. I may actually enjoy that. Yeah. But I don't know. We'll see, I guess.
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But I also just want to point out that I think in the previous week we were on the previous episode of Game Rage Rasslin that I specifically pointed out that in the immediate future that Roman Reigns versus Solosikoa was going to be
for the to fight for the Ulefala. And I thought the only way that they can fucking carry this bloodline bullshit after going to war, so to speak, at Survivor Games or rather Survivor War Games.
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I combined both of them. That's the AEW equivalent. Survivor Games. That'd be hilarious, man. Welcome everybody to Tony Khan's Survivor Games.
Very predictably did exactly what I thought they would do. Yeah. Which is fight for the Ulefala for potentially maybe the last the final act of the bloodline versus bloodline storyline.
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But what do you have to say about that? I agree with that, too. I thought for sure they're going to do that. And that was your call for sure.
And it's good. That's definitely going to be on Monday Night Raw. They've already already confirmed that coming up on January 6th. So them two assholes are going to fight on Monday Night Raw, even though they're on Smackdown for the fucking Ulefala, which.
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I kind of don't fucking care about. I know they're going to hype this up to be like the end all be all. It's like the equivalent of the Samoan Championship. Yeah, basically.
And it's I kind of don't care. Yeah, I don't either. I this has been played out for four or five years at this point. I think I told you I hope one of them dies.
That would be the only way I think I would care. So I don't know what the other will go over the match card because I'm sure they're going to release it for Monday Night Raw. Yeah.
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When it's going to when they would like beforehand. So at this point, I think what's going to end up happening is we're going to wrap up possibly some stories.
And I'm sure they're going to start explaining the Deus Ex Machina of how they're going to transfer basically all the superstars to. Oh, they already started doing that.
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They've they've started kind of explaining. I think there was a segment on Saturday Night's Made event where they had talked about the transfer portal and they were saying that there's already that we just invented.
Yeah, there's already 10. There's already 10 requests in the transfer portal. Yeah. And one of the things that I because they said this during the Drew McIntyre match.
Yeah. And I think that they were alluding to and I'm like, damn, Drew McIntyre, just this motherfucker just can't catch a break because they were basically already foreshadowing that he's going to go that he requested in the transfer portal would go to Smackdown.
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That means he and Punk is going to go to fucking raw. Yes. So they're going to delete him off of there for sure. And that's he's going to just be over there on Smackdown fucking about. Maybe he'll get a mid card tile run.
And I also don't know where he was to begin with because he was on both. Yeah, I it's also confusing because yeah, there's I don't know where he was actually belong to begin with either.
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Yeah, anyways, my name is Josh, I'm here today with good buddy Adam.
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Greetings.
And today we're going to talk about fucking Saturday Night's Main Event.
Just happened yesterday.
They called it Saturday Night's Shit Show.
They should have just called it, eh, maybe we should have did this next Tuesday's Main Event.
That's what they should have done on a random ass day of the week.
Anyways, I do have a couple positive things to say about it surprisingly, but probably not what you're thinking.
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So, alright, Saturday Night's Main Event.
I will say this.
The opening of the show, like the intro that they did.
I skipped it.
Okay, I watched it.
It was very, I thought it was a very trying to go back to that nostalgic feel of like maybe we're leaning towards
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getting back to the attitude era of wrestling,
because they were heavily highlighting a lot of that, some of that stuff, even though like Saturday Night's Main Event wasn't really even a part of it,
but they were highlighting some stuff, and I, okay, cool, I got this real nostalgic feel.
So I'm like, okay, that's good.
When they opened it up, I was very happy to see that it wasn't the same fucking set piece that they use for every goddamn thing that they had.
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It more or less is.
Well, it was slightly different, alright.
They had, it was themed a little more.
They didn't have the fucking screen back there, and it's just the thing.
This was a little bit different.
No, it's still the same thing for the PLEs where they have, it's like the entrance to the arena for the ground floor for like pretty much any stadium.
Yeah, they have it draped in black, and then they have the little fucking opening with the little hallway monitor, screen boards or whatever.
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But I will say that the lighting just adjacent to it, it was rather atypical of them because it was like these blue beams of light, and then you had the Saturday Night Main Event logo on the sign.
Okay, cool, like this is somewhat different, aside from the screen boards that they're done in a typical fashion, and then you had the nostalgic metal handrails or the guardrails that you would expect in the 80s or whatever.
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Yeah, so I thought that was cool.
We also, I will say, I am not a fan of Pat McAfee at all.
No, he's grown sour on me over the last six months.
Yeah, I am fucking over it, and they need to fucking get rid of this guy.
I cannot stand it.
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The Jesse Ventura and like that segment, those segments, they were not fucking complete utter garbage shit shows.
They were pretty coherent.
They were pretty even.
They were middle of the road for me.
Yeah, but see going in, I was expecting this was just going to be him just, conspiracy theories, I used to be the governor, blah blah blah.
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Well, I mean, it basically was that because he told Pat McAfee and Michael Cole at one point, hey, do you guys know why you get to do this?
Because of me.
Right, yeah, that was when he went down there to do it for the final match or whatever.
During the actual event when he was in there and he was up in that area, because he only did ringside commentary for the last main event or whatever.
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When he was up at the top, it was very clear.
And this is also what I don't understand is they had that other guy, fucking, what's his name, Joe Tesatore or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
That dude, like you kind of fucking hide it a little better that they're reading off of a script.
This dude kept looking down at the script to read it and you could tell Jesse Ventura was also doing that because he probably couldn't remember what the lines were.
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But he had sunglasses on, so it wasn't as obvious.
But this dude literally straight moving his eyes from he looks at Jesse Ventura and then he says a sentence and he goes and looks straight at the fucking paper on the table that's right in front of him.
And then goes and I'm like, Jesus Christ, man, that's bad.
That's AIDS.
You know how you prevent moments like that from just letting people go off the cuff and not fucking doing a script?
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I know it seems counterintuitive to read off a script and not have those moments because you're prepared and you don't have to think about what you say.
But, man, I feel like we need to go back to that where people are just saying what they want.
Yeah.
Just a general idea.
You talk to the wrestler that you're going up against and if you have to cut a promo against one another like the following week or whatever, and you kind of give a general gist, but you don't say the finer details so that you can get like a genuine reaction.
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And maybe that'll create a moment.
But I don't know, man.
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyway, so we had we got five matches out of the deal.
I skipped a lot of them.
Yeah, I know.
I watched most of them.
I watched the Triple Threat match.
Okay.
The World Heavyweight Championship, which I actually I think liked more than what you had to say about what your favorite match was.
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Yeah.
Then we had Sami Zayn versus Drew McIntyre, which I also checked out because you watched it.
And then I had to tune in for the Cody Rhodes versus Kevin Owens.
Yeah, you got to watch that.
All right.
So were you going to go?
I was just going to go match by match just the way it was now like we normally do.
Okay.
So starting off, we got Cody or fucking Sami Zayn versus Drew McIntyre.
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I thought that this was the best wrestled match of the night.
You thought so?
I thought that of the wrestling involved, this was the best one.
The Triple Threat match.
I can't I just can't give it that because listen and again, I'm going to harp on the fucking out of shape in this because you could tell again that Gunther was getting fucking super gassed in this match.
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And so was Damien Priest.
But you got that third guy, you got Finn Balor in there to alleviate that so people can take breaks and take rest.
There were not for it being a Triple Threat match.
It was a lot of one on one fighting with one guy out.
You know what I'm saying?
And yeah.
And I think Finn Balor was on the outs like most of the time and he would break up.
Yeah, he would come in when they need a break.
He'd come in and that's like his whole job for the match was like you're just going to sit out in the corner and then let them do a little wrestling.
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And then because they're fat and can't do anything, you're going to come in and let them get a break.
And then he just spammed the fuck out of the sling.
I don't know if you noticed that he spammed the fuck out of sling blade every five seconds, anytime that they needed a spot for him to do something like sling blade, sling blade, sling blade.
And so yeah, I I didn't from an entertainment aspect.
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That match was the triple threat was probably more entertaining because there were three guys in there so they could switch in and out and like mix it up like they were.
I thought the pacing was better than the Sammy Zane match, even though that one was good.
And also the fact that Finn Balor pissed me off with the number of sling blades.
But the pacing was good.
There was so much shit going on.
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It felt chaotic.
It felt real in so many words that it wasn't just like choreographed like the way a Will Ospreay or Ricochet.
That's right.
It looked like these guys were legitimately fighting like, all right, cool.
Like this is what I want in terms of a match for triple of triple threat that there's a lot of chaos going on.
And then as I was saying before, Sammy Zane and Drew McIntyre, I think, put on the second best match of the night.
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Yeah, I know the reason I'm giving the singles match the the edge is just because I felt like everything was on point with this match.
I felt the storytelling of the match was on par.
The wrestling was good and the pacing was good.
The other one, I felt like it was just missing.
Like, I still just can't care about I don't even care about Sammy Zane and Drew McIntyre.
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But like when they got into the match, they got me invested in the storyline.
Their match got me invested in the storyline of them, too.
I still could give a shit about fucking Damien Priest, fucking Orphan Balor.
I could give no shit. And honestly, I'm starting to not give a fuck about Gunther.
I'm starting to think that dude's got to go.
I think we need to make a change and or send him to Smackdown, send him to the B show.
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That's probably what's going to end up happening anyways.
I think the only thing that was of note besides the pacing.
Being pretty decent was if you're going to make your champion look strong and of all people that could do like, you know, one percent damage to to Gunther.
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Finn Balor did a chop on him and he just like kind of stood tall.
He like no sold it.
Yeah, he no sold it. And and then he ended up pinning him in the match after he got Damien Priest out of the ring.
I can't remember exactly what the combination was, but he did something into a power bomb.
Yeah. At the very end of the match.
And I call this. That was the other thing.
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I mean, Gunther botched that fucking power bomb of Damien Priest on the fucking stage.
That was huge. So that he fucked that up real bad.
He salvaged it. He did.
I'll give him that. But the second he started to lift him, I'm like, oh, he doesn't have enough fucking momentum to get him up.
And it sure as shit like halfway through, he fucking stopped.
Put it back on and then fucking somehow pulled it out.
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But still also Damien Priest didn't fucking help him either.
No, he literally just was like he like ragdolled him.
And I was like, man, you should be trying to sit up at least like, yeah, like help.
Yeah, because he was pulling up and he was still like flailing.
Yeah, he was day's ragdoll like an idiot.
I'm like, Jesus Christ. Yeah.
So I thought he was going to end up hitting his head on the.
That's what I thought. Yeah. I was like, oh, this is going to end poorly.
Yeah. But so yeah.
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So then so the the so whatever I guess we basically just covered those two matches right now anyway, so we can just whatever you thought the triple threat was the match of the night.
Number two, we just have them reversed in the order of that.
Right. I did end up because I watched it today because I was because Katie was taking a nap.
And so I was watching it with I finished watching it with with Chloe downstairs.
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And she she asked me she's like, oh, why are those guys fighting?
And I was like, oh, well, you see, it's because I started explaining like the storyline a little bit to her.
She's like, huh? That's a shiny belt.
She's like, I can see why they would fight for that.
And then it and then we got to the women's match was like with I think it was the women's US title match or whatever.
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That was the next one. She's like, oh, there's girls.
And I was like, yeah, she's like, oh, and so I actually ended up watching that whole match because Chloe was into it and she wanted to watch it.
And I will say the women's match, the two women's matches on here were not the worst fucking matches I've seen.
They weren't great by any standard, but they were just they were serviceable.
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They were they were OK. The only thing I know about the Liv Morgan versus you, Sky, was that you Sky fucking deep the shit out of her nose.
Yeah. Yeah. It was like a very stiff, very stiff shot.
Yeah. So and then obviously, Ria Ripley, which this also didn't fucking make any sense.
Why does Ria Ripley come out at the end of the match when she's at the fucking the thing, the head of the what is it like by the entrance and just stands there just like stares at her and just does nothing.
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I'm like, this was stupid. At least fight or do something or try like why you just cut you just came out to make an appearance and stand there.
And that's it. Like you didn't talk shit. You didn't do anything.
You stood there and looked like an asshole. And then it just it didn't do anything for me.
And I'm like, honestly, like she looked kind of weird, too.
Like, I don't know if she like did something different, but like she looked kind of fucking weird.
And I'm like, I don't like this. This is not this is no bueno.
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So fuck out of here with all that. But anyways, we go on now to the main event.
Kevin Owens versus Sammy Zane or, I mean, a fucking shit ass Cody Rhodes.
I will say I did like the obvious resurgence of the winged eagle winged eagle bell winged wings and things.
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The winged wings belt. I like that belt. That's one of my favorites with like top five belts.
That's not the original, right? No. Well, OK.
It's the same. Essentially, it just doesn't have it has WWE at the top instead of the WWF logo.
But it's very similar. Now, here's the other thing. It looks small. Yes.
Here's that. So, OK. So somebody pointed out online and I think they might be right that they didn't have a new belt made for for this to showcase that.
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They just grabbed one off of the store like the day because you could buy that.
You've been able to buy that belt. That's like a replica belt that like we could buy.
And because they were saying how when Charles Robinson was holding it up the way he held it, they're like, no, you always got to do this.
And he's like, oh, you want to know why? He's like, because if you look right here, you can see the stitching.
And he got the one from the shop and he's like, look at the stitching. It's the exact same.
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So he's like, if they fold that belt in half, the leather could start to crack and then you'll see the cardboard shit on the inside of it.
And so he's like, I think these motherfuckers just put up a goddamn.
They just got one off the shop and they were just like, fuck it, just throw that on. It's not going to be out there very long.
No one's going to notice. And so I think you might be right, because if you look at the original belt, you can tell the leather.
(14:39):
Like, and also when you look at the other belts, the real ones, the leather is different. Like this was just different.
It seemed like this was it was off. There's something off about it. And that's what.
So that's my theory. I am 100 percent cosigning that fucking theory that they used the fake fucking belt.
Like it was just a replica you can buy off the shop, which is kind of ass. That's terrible.
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Now, granted, Cody Rhodes deserves nothing but the worst.
So I actually think that's very fitting of his fucking title.
It's very, it's very, it's very spot on for a sheet title run is just give him a fake fucking belt.
The match itself, it wasn't fucking horrific.
There there were all those stupid Cody cutters, those stupid ass Cody cutters and then RKOs out of nowhere.
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The table fucking didn't break, you know.
The numerous times that well, numerous in the fact that it was only twice.
But Cody running into the oh, that's the rep, the refs and to have it end in that way.
It's like, OK, so Cody can't win in a straight match.
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Also, he fucking dumped him on a chair, too. Like he did the fucking crossroads.
He was the one that ended up on the fucking chair. His back landed flat on the fucking thing and he no sold the chair.
Yes. But anyways, but Kevin Owens is dead from his head hitting the chair.
Yeah. So OK. And so that's another thing.
I'm not a fan of referee fucking getting knocked out shit because it's been overplayed.
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It's been overdone, especially in his matches. Yes.
And we got it twice in the same two times in the same match.
Also, I do think there might be a storyline reason for this.
I think the Cody Rhodes heel turn is going to start to come because this I mean, using the chair.
That's that's a heel move. Right. But he used it first. Right.
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Kevin Owens used it first, of course. But he doesn't even use the weapon usage at all is still a heel maneuver.
That's you're now on the path to you starting to use it first. Right.
So I I have a feeling that what's going to end up happening because there is a rule and obviously we all know the script.
But there is a rule in the WWE that referees must be inside the ring when they count a three count
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because Charles Robinson was outside of the ring when he counted that three count that technically should not.
The match should have not ended there. So I love how there's an actual rule for wrestling
when it seemingly is inconceivable that there are rules. Right.
Because there are actual rules like there are rules.
If you if you look at they have a whole rulebook and everything, even though they never fucking follow it.
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But it's there for convenience, for storytelling purposes.
So my opinion is I believe that at January 6th, Monday Night Raw,
the Cody Rhodes versus Kevin Owens in a rematch for the championship is going to fucking happen again.
I disagree. I think that they're going to they're going to use that as some bullshit or maybe they'll make it a triple threat.
There's going to be a title match involving Cody Rhodes on Raw Netflix.
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I think Kevin Owens will be involved and hell, maybe it'll be maybe a triple threat with fucking Randy Orton.
But maybe they'll even make it a four way match and throw some other asshole in there.
Who knows? Maybe they'll throw Finn Balor in there just for the fuck of it.
Like he's good at wasting time. My personal theory about the outcome.
Wait, shit. Well, there's we haven't even talked about that.
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Have we? What the end? The end, the post post.
No, we haven't got there yet. But I think the best spot of the night for me and probably deserving.
Well, not in conjunction with what happens at the end of main event.
I think this proves to me that Cody or rather Kevin Owens is worthy of holding the title right now.
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He did like it. It wasn't a Falcon Arrow. I think it was like a fucking fisherman's hook like Muscle Buster.
Yeah. I'm like, fuck yeah, dude. That's a sweet ass move that you it looks lethal.
Yeah, it does. And now that we could talk about the end of the end of Saturday night's main event with Kevin Owens
returning to the ring and then just beating being Cody Rhodes ass and then doing a what was it?
(18:55):
Like a shoving match with fucking Triple H or whatever the fuck you did after that.
No, no, I'm talking about the move itself that basically planted Cody's head or look like he planted his head into the mat.
Yeah, I don't fucking remember what it was that he did.
Well, we'll just say it's some kind of pilo driver. I don't know what the fuck it was.
But in any case, the fact that they're incorporating moves that look lethal and in some cases they can be if they're not performed right.
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Especially that one. Yeah. And also the the Muscle Buster in the corner off the top row.
That signals to me that they're willing to let guys do those type of things when for many years or at least for perhaps the past
10 or 15 years when Tyson Kidd got injured from Samoa Joe's Muscle Buster that we're now returning to more lethal moves in the ring once more.
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And I don't know, man, for Kevin Owens to do that, that must be a pretty decent nod that he could be possibly holding the title.
But as far as the implications of what could happen for the future, I think what happens is Cody Rhodes possibly vacates the title and they have like a tournament, a tournament for the title
(20:12):
because it keeps Cody from actually losing the title to Kevin Owens and then they can kind of build in a story if they end up taking this to WrestleMania that that he could be the champion in the interim.
But then they. Yeah. And then Cody Rhodes turns heel at WrestleMania. And that's how you end.
That's I mean, listen, I'm in favor of a Cody Rhodes heel turn. I may actually enjoy that. Yeah. But I don't know. We'll see, I guess.
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But I also just want to point out that I think in the previous week we were on the previous episode of Game Rage Rasslin that I specifically pointed out that in the immediate future that Roman Reigns versus Solosikoa was going to be
for the to fight for the Ulefala. And I thought the only way that they can fucking carry this bloodline bullshit after going to war, so to speak, at Survivor Games or rather Survivor War Games.
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I combined both of them. That's the AEW equivalent. Survivor Games. That'd be hilarious, man. Welcome everybody to Tony Khan's Survivor Games.
Very predictably did exactly what I thought they would do. Yeah. Which is fight for the Ulefala for potentially maybe the last the final act of the bloodline versus bloodline storyline.
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But what do you have to say about that? I agree with that, too. I thought for sure they're going to do that. And that was your call for sure.
And it's good. That's definitely going to be on Monday Night Raw. They've already already confirmed that coming up on January 6th. So them two assholes are going to fight on Monday Night Raw, even though they're on Smackdown for the fucking Ulefala, which.
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I kind of don't fucking care about. I know they're going to hype this up to be like the end all be all. It's like the equivalent of the Samoan Championship. Yeah, basically.
And it's I kind of don't care. Yeah, I don't either. I this has been played out for four or five years at this point. I think I told you I hope one of them dies.
That would be the only way I think I would care. So I don't know what the other will go over the match card because I'm sure they're going to release it for Monday Night Raw. Yeah.
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When it's going to when they would like beforehand. So at this point, I think what's going to end up happening is we're going to wrap up possibly some stories.
And I'm sure they're going to start explaining the Deus Ex Machina of how they're going to transfer basically all the superstars to. Oh, they already started doing that.
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They've they've started kind of explaining. I think there was a segment on Saturday Night's Made event where they had talked about the transfer portal and they were saying that there's already that we just invented.
Yeah, there's already 10. There's already 10 requests in the transfer portal. Yeah. And one of the things that I because they said this during the Drew McIntyre match.
Yeah. And I think that they were alluding to and I'm like, damn, Drew McIntyre, just this motherfucker just can't catch a break because they were basically already foreshadowing that he's going to go that he requested in the transfer portal would go to Smackdown.
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That means he and Punk is going to go to fucking raw. Yes. So they're going to delete him off of there for sure. And that's he's going to just be over there on Smackdown fucking about. Maybe he'll get a mid card tile run.
And I also don't know where he was to begin with because he was on both. Yeah, I it's also confusing because yeah, there's I don't know where he was actually belong to begin with either.
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