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December 3, 2024 • 23 mins

Adam and Josh discuss their predictions for Survivor Series 2024.

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(00:00):
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Oh yeah, welcome back everybody to a brand new episode of your favorite podcast about wrestling.
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(01:04):
It's better than everyone's podcast about wrestling.
And it's Game Rage Wrestling.
My name's Josh. I'm here today with good buddy Adam.
Yep.
Today we're going to talk about Survivor Series slash War Games.
Well I guess it's called Survivor Series War Games now.
2024.
Preview.
That means we're just going to get that every fucking year.
It's just going to be Survivor Series War Games 2025 next year.

(01:28):
Anyways, we're going to talk about it.
We're going to talk preview. We're going to preview it.
It's happening later today but we're talking about it already because why not.
We're going to go over the match card, talk about what we think, our predictions, and then we're going to watch it.
And then after that you'll get to hear what we think about whether our predictions came true or not, I guess.
So anyways, before we get into it though, if you want to follow us, you can go to Game Rage Magazine on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, at Game Rage Magazine.

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Alright, Survivor Series 2024 match card.

(02:18):
I see that they have fucking five, one, two, three, four, five.
Jesus Christ, we have five matches, man.
That's all we're getting.
Yeah, well, you figure both of the Survivor Series matches probably take up.
The WarGames match will take, yeah.
Each one will take an hour. Jesus Christ.

(02:40):
Well, okay, we got the women's.
I think they take up 45 minutes.
45 minutes.
Okay, so the women's one, we got Rhea Ripley, Bianca Belair, Naomi, EO Sky, and Bailey versus Liv Morgan, Raquel Rodriguez, Nia Jax, Tiffany Stratton, and Candice Leroy.
Respectfully, I don't give a shit.
Disrespectfully, I don't give a shit.

(03:01):
I really don't care about this.
I do think that maybe, what's her name, Tiffany Stratton may cash in her money in the bank.
That would be kind of cool.
That would be the only reason to watch this fucking match.
If that happens.
But other than that, don't give a fuck.
I have no prediction because I don't care.
I also, I coincide with that.
Next up, we have potentially the Intercontinental title being on the line in a triple threat match, which we get Bron Breaker defending his championship against Seamus and Ludwig Kaiser.

(03:32):
Ludwig Kaiser.
All right, so they've been spelling out the story between Gunther and Ludwig Kaiser, Ludwig Kaiser, that he needs to become his own man because he's just basically a hype man for fucking Gunther.
Yeah.
And if he wants to be a respectable person in the WWE, then he better fucking do something about it.

(03:54):
So apparently he's in this triple threat match with Seamus and Seamus, I feel like is just cannon fodder to add an extra element to the match itself, I suppose.
Yeah, Seamus will actually take, I think Ludwig Kaiser wins this match.
You think so?
I think he wins the title and I think he pins Seamus to do it because it doesn't hurt Bron Breaker.

(04:16):
Yeah.
Doesn't make him look weak.
Seamus, who gives a fuck, nobody cares about Seamus.
So he can take an L, doesn't really matter.
And then it sets up a now a feud for Saturday night's main event to where Bron Breaker will get his rematch against Ludwig Kaiser.
Maybe Seamus will interfere and accidentally fucking punch Bron Breaker, hit him with a chair or some bullshit.

(04:37):
And then Ludwig Kaiser will get the win.
And I think we get to see the, what the fuck were they called?
The Imperium or some shit like that.
Yeah.
We get to see a new version of that and we're going to have Gunther, Ludwig Kaiser.
Maybe they're going to bring in two more guys and they're going to win the tag team championships eventually.
And we get like kind of an evolution type situation here or a new stable out of it.

(05:01):
Maybe it's not going to be Imperium proper, but it'll be like a new stable.
I feel like I feel like that's what they need to do because we're having, well, this Judgment Day shit just needs to go away.
So does the bloodline shit.
I think we need some new stables coming in and taking over.
Or just interesting characters in general.

(05:23):
Maybe the Ludwig Kaiser thing happens because, dude, they got to fix that.
Because like I said, man, when it comes to like the IC or US title, it just seems like it's a linear thing.
Like it gets passed on from one person to the next.
And yeah, like that's typically how things unfold, right?

(05:44):
Somebody else wins it.
But it never really feels like there's seven or eight people at play for the IC title.
And maybe you hide that with Seamus.
You add him into the match so you make it seem as though there's an additional four or five people,
even though there's only really, you know, Brawn Breaker and Ludwig Kaiser really vying for the Intercontinental title

(06:10):
because it's not that important or maybe they don't find it that interesting or whatever.
But Brawn Breaker is kind of like the face of the IC title right now.
So in order for this not to get stale, I think you might be right in letting Ludwig Kaiser take it so that you have a little feud here.
But there needs to be more people other than Seamus because if he's just cannon fodder for the match,

(06:32):
then it's like, OK, well, where's the other five people going after the IC title?
If we're really believing this this division, this this title is meaningful and people want it.
Yeah. Next up, we get the United States Championship, L.A. Knight versus fucking Shinsuke Nakamura.

(06:55):
All right. This is going to be really depressing, but we already know what the outcome is.
It's going to be L.A. Knight going over Shinsuke Nakamura and his social credit on the WWE is gone.
It's basically gone. He he lost too many goddamn matches.
And he's so he's doing some new gimmick where he's got like black garments and his theme song has changed and all this shit.

(07:17):
And I think he's like doing a Sith Lord gimmick.
Like who the fuck knows what it is?
But ultimately, it just spells disaster for me.
It it's like wrapping a turd in new packaging and it not really amounting to anything because we know L.A.
Knight is going to go over, but they're going to feud like two more instances and then bam Shinsuke Nakamura.

(07:39):
The last it's the last we hear of him on televised programming for WWE.
Yeah, I do think that this will probably listen.
Shinsuke has been known in the past to bullshit matches that he's not happy with where he's kind of half assed it.
So I if Shinsuke goes all out and does a good job, I think this will be the match of the night.

(08:04):
I think this will probably be the best match that we see.
Oh, yeah. In terms of actual wrestling, like this will definitely be the best match if Shinsuke doesn't phone it in.
You know, I think he was hurt or I don't know if it was kayfabe or if it was actually real.
That's why he's been gone for a while.
This is kind of like his quote unquote like comeback or whatever.
I don't know if it's going to have legs. Hey, the same way that Bo Dallas had his comeback.

(08:30):
Yeah, whatever. Yeah. What is what?
And yet again, yet again, proving my fucking point about the White Six.
They have not amounted to fuck all for any goddamn paper, especially the Big Four.
Yeah, I would like to say that we were fucking so right about that shit going nowhere and all this shit.
We got a ton of shit online. I hate about that, that we're that that we're full of shit.

(08:55):
This is the best storyline they have.
It's been what, six months and they haven't seen them on shit.
Yeah, maybe they're on raw every once in a while fucking about, but they haven't had any matches or whatever.
But where's where's Bo Dallas doing whatever he's intending to do in a convincing fashion?
Winning a title, literally doing anything.
Anything matters. Why is he not in the fucking Intercontinental? Why? Why is he not? Yeah.

(09:20):
What are they doing with them, dude? That's I feel like what we said is gospel at this point.
Yep. True story. So, yeah, I agree with you.
LA Knight goes over and retains the title and shit's gay dies.
That's what happens. But like I said, if he doesn't phone it in, this will probably be the best match.
I think it'll be. Yeah, I don't know, man. I'm actually. Let's see.

(09:43):
I'll get to the what my personal pick of what I think the match of the night is going to be.
All right. So up next, we get the World Heavyweight Championship online.
Gunther versus Damien Priest. So they're running it back from what is it?
Fuck was that? When did they do that? Bash in Berlin.
Yeah, because he won it there, right? Yeah.

(10:04):
I thought he defended it in Bash Berlin.
No, I think he won it there. I think that's where he won the belt.
Because that's why they were like, oh, no, he didn't.
Or was it summer slam? Oh, it was either summer slam or or.
So we're running this back again, basically.
OK, I mean, Gunther's Gunther's going to go over.

(10:25):
I don't think Damien Priest is going to fucking beat him.
Yeah, I think the story that's being sold here is that Gunther,
after losing his match to Cody Rhodes, doesn't believe he's worthy of the title or he's having some semblance of doubt.
And then he also lashed out at Louis Kaiser to be his own man.
But he's also like not sure that he's all that great now that he's lost.
So now Damien Priest is getting inside his head and they're going to run it back.

(10:49):
And I guess I don't know.
OK, so I've kind of been tuned out from Rob, but Damien Priest is opting for his rematch clause with I imagine with Gunther.
So I think Gunther I think Gunther retains because.
I think they got a they're going to ride this pony until fucking WrestleMania.

(11:13):
Why would they put the strap on Damien Priest, assuming like we get to, you know, raw Monday Night Raw on Netflix?
Why would they change hands now? Yeah, I agree.
That's that's what's going to go down.
This shit will still carry this shit till WrestleMania.
And then I don't know who John Cena is going to get go up against at WrestleMania.

(11:34):
But I mean, it's going to be one of these fucking belts that he's going to go for.
I don't know who it's going to be, whether. Oh, shit.
Yeah, you're right. I forgot about that. Yeah, because this is retirement year.
So then they got to put the strap on him one more time, I think.
Yeah, 100 percent they're going to.
And it'll it'll I don't know if it happened before WrestleMania and then he'll drop it at WrestleMania to somebody.
But or if it'll be at WrestleMania, they'll have one last WrestleMania moment.

(11:55):
Do you think he eclipses Ric Flair for 18?
Yeah, no, he will. This is this he's tied with him for 16 or whatever.
So, oh, he just 17. Yeah. OK. So.
Yeah. So that's why they'll do it is to let them let them fucking have it.
But yeah, I do.
There goes over on this one. All right.

(12:17):
Now, the next final match, this one, I have no idea what's going to happen.
Yeah, like I could I could wholeheartedly say I cannot predict the outcome for this.
I don't really I don't know if I really care for this match, but if I did care, it's the shock factor of what is actually going to happen.
Yeah. And conspicuous by his absence.

(12:38):
Fucking Cody Rhodes is not on this fucking pay-per-view.
Very, very strange to me to not have him involved at all in any of this shit.
So I don't know. I do think that the CM Punk thing is is a wild card with this whole thing.
I think it's cool. It is cool.

(12:59):
I I kind of think because of the rumors about Brock Lesnar and all this shit,
I kind of have a feeling that Paul Heyman is just playing fucking games right now.
And the real the real return is going to be Brock Lesnar coming out for some reason.
I don't know. I feel like something like the new bloodline, like the Rocks going to come out or some bullshit and fucking end up beating everybody up.

(13:26):
And he's going to kill everybody.
And then the new bloodline will be like, you know, fucking victorious.
And maybe they're going to grab Paul Heyman, maybe they're going to beat his ass.
And that's when you hear the Brock Lesnar music hit and fucking he comes in.
And then now maybe this sets up some bullshit between the Rock and Brock Lesnar.
I don't think people want to see the Rock and John Cena nonsense again.

(13:50):
I think that maybe they'd go for this. They think this might go play better.
Some some rock versus fucking Brock Lesnar feud potentially, although it's probably not going to be good.
But I mean, like whatever, I'm sure people will pay to see it.
So I don't know. I don't think a win does anything for the bloodline, the original bloodline.

(14:14):
I think if you're going to do anything, yeah, you need to kind of further cement the new blood, the new bloodline with Solo, Sokoa and Jacob Fatu.
And I don't know how I don't really know what the reason would be.
But I think you might be right about the Paul Heyman thing, about him betraying the original bloodline.

(14:37):
Maybe maybe it's about Roman Reigns not reaching out when Paul Heyman got his ass kicked by the new, newly led Soulsocoa bloodline.
But how you spell that out, that's the part I don't know how that works.
I definitely think there's going to be shenanigans. I just don't know like how the Rock would play into this shit other than to stamp out Roman Reigns.

(15:06):
Because you remember at WrestleMania, he basically asked him to be or he made him like pledge allegiance to him with throwing up the wine and acknowledging him as a tribal chief.
He's like, you're the bitch. You're a bitch and I'm the final boss. You need to respect me.
And Soulsocoa is the guy I'm honoring as the new tribal chief or some shit.

(15:30):
I'm also thinking Seth Rollins might intervene with this shit.
I don't know how though.
Because he would be torn between Bronson Reed and helping Roman Reigns, a former, I guess you could call brother.
But he also doesn't fucking like him. He doesn't like Roman Reigns right now.

(15:51):
But he also hates Bronson Reed. So I don't know. I think there's a lot of bullshit that could be had.
I mean, we could be talking about like 12 people by the end of the match.
I think there's going to be a ton of bullshit that goes on, which I'm totally for.
Like, I'm cool with just being surprised of what happens in Survivor Series.
So prediction wise, I think Soulsocoa goes over. Yeah, I can see that with Paul Heyman shenanigans.

(16:19):
Yeah, yeah. So anyways, fuck man.
I don't know. I guess we'll see. I think Brock Lesnar comes out. I think that's fucking something that happens.
Good. Could happen. I mean, it probably shock a lot of fucking people.
Yeah, especially with the controversy of the whole Vince McMahon thing, you know, and him being involved in all that.

(16:42):
All right. And there's also the possibility that Roman Reigns team actually wins because then story wise,
we have the promise that was had some kind of some kind of favor. Yeah.
That CM Punk is so you don't set that up without something actually happening. That is true.
You're going to need something to carry the next story. Yeah.

(17:05):
But then like, what's the favor going to be though? Like, that's the whole question, right?
It's like, Roman's got nothing for him. Is this something that he just holds on to later when Roman gets another belt and says like, hey, man, I want a match.
I want my match now at WrestleMania. Yeah. At WrestleMania fucking mania.
Or maybe CM Punk is still pissed off at Drew McIntyre and wants him to go kill Drew McIntyre or some shit. Who knows?

(17:27):
I don't know. Or they fight for Paul Heyman for who's going to be their who's going to be who's going to have Paul Heyman at their side.
That's when Brock Lesnar comes out and kills all of them and he was mine the whole time. You guys. Yeah.
Screw you guys. All right. So you brought something up about the segment that was that happened tonight on Smackdown.
What did you have to say about it? Because you have this segment between Paul Heyman, Roman Reigns and CM Punk.

(17:52):
This is a new element that has been incorporated since. What was that pay per view? It was Georgia.
Yeah. The SummerSlam.
Well, what was the one the one before that was the Hell and Sell Hell and Sell. Yeah, I think that was it.
Yeah. When they started doing this like cinematic shit. Yeah.

(18:13):
So what were your thoughts on this? I enjoyed this one. I thought this one was great.
I thought it was like again, just showing CM Punk is fucking an asshole and does whatever the hell he wants.
He's literally got this meeting with Roman Reigns and she shows up fucking late.
And then as soon as he gets up, he goes, I don't got a lot of time. Let's make this great.
He's like, oh, you don't got a lot of time. You showed up late. And then he's like, yeah, whatever.

(18:34):
And so basically, I just thought it was a good little fucking promo between the two of them, setting them up that, hey,
this is a problem that we have between us and like whatever.
And listen, I'm not here for you, bitch. I'm here for fucking Paul Heyman.
And again, throwing in the whole wise man thing again, he was my wise man before yours, all this stuff.

(18:55):
And again, this is what leads me to think that Brock Lesnar is coming in because then he's going to be like, oh, he was my wise man before all of your I'm the OG Paul Heyman guy.
So get the fuck out of here. All right.
So and that's where I think that, again, Paul Heyman being the ever fucking clever dude is is is set shit up right in terms of storyline shit like he's just setting all up to kill everybody because he does.

(19:21):
He wants to wipe the face because he's done with these all these assholes. Yes, he's maybe using CM Punk as a means to an end.
But, you know, but I also don't know why you would set up this whole favor thing and then go nowhere, not do anything with it.
So because it was that was very, very, very prevalent of this whole thing was that, listen, let's not worry about what the favor is.

(19:44):
Obviously, it's a favor Roman Reigns is not going to want to do because Paul Heyman already knows what the favor is going to be.
And he's that's why he's like, let's just talk about this if we survive.
And, man, I did think he was going to set up the Brock Lesnar shit when he was doing that thing, saying, listen to the both of you like we need to if you know divided, we fall right we are defeated.

(20:09):
I thought he was going to say together we can conquer the bloodline. I thought he was going to use that terminology to like foreshadow the conquering like that's the Brock Lesnar foreshadowing right there, but he didn't use that word to use some other fucking word about surviving.
Basically, he's like if together maybe we have a better chance of survival.
You know what we need was that.

(20:32):
Well, did you have more to add? No, I'm good.
We need to have a I love you solo counter.
We should have a proposition bet. I think it's somewhere for me it's probably somewhere in the ballpark of like two to three.
Okay, so it's like three and a half.
Three and a half over under or two and a half.
I love you so as we get.
Yeah. So okay, well you're gonna go over you taking me over the end around that one.

(20:57):
I'll take the under. Take the under. All right, well I guess that means I got to make it one and a half.
Because I have okay, so it's gotta be so if you win if it's two to I win or if I get one or less than.
Yeah, that's probably more fair.
All right, I can take that and then whoever loses has to yell.
I love you fucking. I love you solo has to do it the number of times that it was done during the match or just the next wrestling episode.

(21:25):
You know you snap your fingers in to say I love you.
All right for the whole next episode. Yeah, yeah, that's what's gonna be.
All right. All right. That's a good bet.
All right, I'm down. All right, so I guess we'll see you guys after Survivor Series.
True. So anyways, if you want to follow all shit go to game rage magazine on YouTube, enter your YouTube, TikTok and Instagram.

(21:50):
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We'll fucking get you guys after Survivor Series on the next one.

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