January 20, 2025 • 42 mins
Adam and Josh discuss the recent Raw and Smackdown as well as why AEW is so bad.
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So you want to listen to a pretty all right podcast about wrestling, do you?
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that's the most decent and the most all right in the industry today.
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Live from Josh's Garage!
Yep, that's right, we're here in my garage, ringside, at the newest wrestling promotion,
Game Rage Wrestling, the GRW!
Man, that's just close enough to GCW that we might get a cease and desist letter.
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We won't, they don't got any money. They don't got the money to do that. That costs a lot of money to do.
I've learned that you either have enough money to send cease and desist letters or you're just too lazy.
So it's not both, you can't have both, all right?
Anyways, welcome everybody to Game Rage Wrestling. I'm Josh, he's Adam.
Today we're going to talk about, primarily, our good buddy, friend of the show, Jacob Fatu.
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And I say that because he's a scumbag like us. I mean, I can really appreciate a guy who stiffs charities
and like, you know, fucking no-shows events and still takes the bag. I love that shit, man.
I just don't know if it's kayfabe or real.
No, it's real and I'm glad, okay? I'm glad that's real. We finally get a villain we deserve, okay?
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Somebody that actually stays in character consistently.
Yeah, someone who takes this shit seriously.
And I can't even, I think I can't even say that because I was so disgusted by Monday Night Raw
dumbing down the fact that we can't understand wrestling's not real, that there's two characters.
One's good, one's bad, or there's two people that don't like each other and they're both vying for the title.
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You're insulting my intelligence.
And also, this is not them as real people. These are just characters that they're playing.
Man, shut the fuck up, all right? We know that. Jesus Christ.
Do you think, do I want to turn on fucking Severance and have some asshole?
Do I want to have that dickhead or heli-r fucking stand up and go,
hey everybody, we just wanted to let you know that this is not real and we're not really these people.
And we're not, you know, these are characters that we're playing and this is a fictional story and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
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No, I don't want to hear that, all right? I don't need you to tell me that shit.
No, no, I'm going on a rant. But anyways, yeah, it's Game Rage wrestling.
We're going to talk about Jacob Vought too.
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Yes.
That's a lot to say.
It is quite, it is a mouthful.
I think that's, I think, I think my diabetes is acting up.
I think I need to take a break. I think we need to take a 20 minute break.
Yeah, dude. I somehow, it just, it just makes me mad.
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I didn't know shit.
It angers you. It angers you.
It agitates me. It, it, what other words you can think of in terms of anger?
Use it to substitute for whatever bullshit I'm saying.
I'm very disappointed knowing that whoever is in charge of creative, if it is Triple H,
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if it's a team of writers, if it's both, that they dragged out all this bullshit with Solo
Sokoa, dude, knowing, because I, I'm going to be honest, dude.
I knew fuck all about Jacob Fatu other than the rumors that he was coming and that he was within the
Aniwae family.
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Yeah.
That's as much as I knew. But knowing SmackDown, knowing that SmackDown, that he cut a promo
that was probably like one of the better ones. And it wasn't anything huge.
It was just how convincing he was with the words that he was delivering.
I was like, fuck dude. Why, why did you drag out the Solo Sokoa shit when you had this motherfucker right here?
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Yeah. Well think about this. He, he literally has been only allowed to just basically yell,
I love you Solo at the top of his lungs for the last fucking 12 months or however long it's been.
Yeah.
And so from going from that to now actually being allowed to kind of show who you are and what you can be,
they fucked up by not going with this. After that Survivor Series match, this should have been the storyline.
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It should have been this what's happening now. We shouldn't have had it dragged out for another fucking three months.
Yeah, up until this past, past two weeks with the debut of Monday Night Raw. I mean, man, what a missed opportunity to get the ball rolling
with Jacob Fatt two months earlier so that by the time we get to Monday Night Raw, Netflix, or actually I take that back.
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Since he's on SmackDown, it's, it's kind of irrelevant, but rather just simply the fact that they could have got the ball rolling
prior to the new year and getting him in the singles competitor role at the start of 2025 as opposed to, you know, weeks later.
I don't know. Interesting choice, I could say.
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It is. This guy, Jacob Fatt two, I'm just saying right now, man, he's going to be the next, he's like the next fucking superstar.
Oh yeah. He's top dude.
100%.
Just based on his promo?
Yeah.
Automatically in my mind, just how he's carried himself, basically being the enforcer of Solo Sokoa and has plot armor that he's invincible.
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Like, yeah, he takes numerous finishers and nobody ever actually takes him down.
And then we actually hear him speak and he can cut a promo. I was like, oh shit, dude.
They actually struck gold with this motherfucker.
Solo Sokoa can't wrestle for shit. Can't cut promos for shit. Delete. Get him out of here. Get Jacob Fatt two in there. He needs to be.
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Moon salts off the top rope.
Yeah. And he can talk shit. Man, I'm in a hundred percent. I'm gonna go buy a Jacob Fatt two t-shirt on the WWE shop right fucking now.
Yeah. And then you have a, which, which one's the useless one? Toma Tanga?
Yeah.
Toma Taga is the useless one. Toma Taga was the one that was in the ring with him with the chattering.
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That's that'll be cool to see him be like a whatever the fuck he's going to be.
Sidekick, I guess.
Yeah. I'm sure he's going to get his ass beat, but like, at least it'll be fun.
Yeah. Also, I don't know if this is, this is going to be, this is maybe a little conspiracy enforcer. Maybe I should play the conspiracy enforcer themes on for this.
But do you notice how any one of these guys who's related to the Anoa or whatever that that family line, right?
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Yes.
None of them outside of Rome. I'm talking about now since in this like modern time. Roman Reigns is maybe the last one.
None of them. None of them are in NXT. None of them go to it. They go straight to the main roster, regardless of where they came from.
And they were making, I mean, listen, they made guys who were fucking bona fide stars in other promotions go through NXT and then fucking ruin them and then ruin them in the WWE.
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Hold up. Hold up. Does that hold water? Because I feel like it does.
Because Roman was the last person to go through NXT as that family.
Because did the the Usos, did they debut?
No, I think they came straight to the fucking main roster. I don't think they were in NXT.
Who knows, man? Maybe they might have gone through OVW.
Well, what I'm saying is now in this modern time, all those dudes that they brought in, all those Simons they brought in, let's be real.
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Like, they really weren't in like they're not like, what am I trying to say?
Who made it? There were guys that were like top dudes in whatever, TNA or fucking New Japan that they made them go through NXT.
But yet these dudes were definitely not anywhere near that level of experience or kind of star power.
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But because they're related to the family, I feel like they're just they were just ushered right in.
They didn't make them do an NXT run.
Yeah, it's like the Marley family. Oh, you were the seventh child that Bob Marley had.
Or you're a you're a third cousin. Come on in.
Come on in. You got it. Good.
Yeah, I mean, should do as as you were saying in a more recent note, yes, they just circumvented going through NXT because even Finn Balor, somebody that was an experienced veteran even went through NXT.
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He went through the ranks. So here's yeah. But here's look at this.
The Usos, they were in Florida Championship Wrestling. That's technically NXT.
Hold on January 2010, they debuted on the fucking main roster May of 2010. So they weren't even in NXT.
They weren't even in that for a couple of months. And then bam, they're already up here.
Whereas, I mean, listen, they're making like dudes. Yeah, that was in 2010.
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This was this is probably maybe a bad example. This is like that Roman Reigns kind of they were still making people do that shit.
But yeah, I mean, if anybody actually needed definitely be like Tonga Lola.
Who just made it on the roster because fuck it. We needed we did in order to get Jacob fat, too.
We had to get the the runs of the litter or the rejects of the family.
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That's funny. Yeah, I mean, he just straight came into the bloodline.
All these Simone dudes just came straight in to the main roster. Fuck. I mean, listen, so was the cold probably could have benefited from fucking.
So I don't want to know his real name. I don't give a fuck.
So what's the color? Where's this thing? I'll see if he can't where he went.
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He went to college, played football. Oh, very typical of the anti white family.
That's kind of like I'm a Washington football player. Oh, I better become a wrestler.
Oh, let's see. All right. Yeah.
I mean, he was in NXT, but like he was in there for like a few months, too.
Like it wasn't even it was in 2020 or whatever.
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Mm hmm. Or 2021. And then he showed up in 2022 in the on the main roster.
So but that was again, that was also before the rock was in charge of shit.
So like now the rocks on the board, I feel like you're not going to see any Simone dudes go through NXT.
It's a free pass to straight to the main roster. And yeah, I know they maybe needed to fill out this bloodline or whatever.
But like not really. You didn't need to bring in all these guys like this.
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You could have fucking maybe held the storyline off and let them come up to the right.
They just needed the numbers in order to make it convincing. Maybe for the bloodline to have it as a stable that if it was only just solo Sacoa and.
Jacob Fatu, it wouldn't it wouldn't have been enough. Yeah, maybe.
Well, I guess we'll see what's going to end up happening with if when more because, you know, there's there's more more going to come in.
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So obviously, so I guess we'll see if they go through NXT or they fast track them.
Yeah. Also, I mean, I wasn't done with the Jacob Fatu. Yeah, no, no, neither was I. I was just talking about that.
But it was good. Yeah. I think what made his promo particularly special for me.
Is one he drew heat. Yeah.
But again, it was the conviction in his words that Solsacoa is, you know, in a state of peril.
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Oh, man, I'm washed up like I'm not the tribal chief.
And and Jacob Fatu is like carrying the torch.
Man, fuck that shit. I'm going to get it.
And then it was like how he started is like music, man, even on my worst day, I'm better than 90 percent of you, whatever the fuck it was.
And then he said, I still get mine.
And I'm like, fuck, yeah, dude. And then.
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And also he's like, oh, you thought I was crazy.
You thought I was this shit. And he knew to give enough.
Space for the crowd to react and get those what chance going. Yeah.
Like he was perceptive enough so that it was kind of give and take between the.
I'm like, this this motherfucker, like this is what being years.
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Of experience like going overseas and doing shit and other brands.
This is where you earned your stripes or this is where you all the experience that you've amounted.
This is like how somebody becomes a fucking.
A star dude is like you do all those reps of like understanding a crowd, but doing all the work, like all the in-ring work, but also the promo shit.
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Yeah, he just did all of it well, dude.
And it was just him being perceptive to that and he fucking cook, man.
Oh, dude, he did. He fucking knocked it out of the park, too.
I was I was very fucking excited that this is now the new direction that it looks like it's going with this.
And now granted, listen, he is it's not like he's on fucking raw.
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He's on Smackdown, so it is going to be sort of a waste because.
Until this storyline with Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes, whatever the fuck's going to happen with this thing going into WrestleMania.
Jacob Fattu is now kind of on the back burner.
They're letting him cook or whatever with this stuff, but I don't think he's going to be involved in any major, major storylines other than obviously he's involved.
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He may win the US title is probably what's going to happen out of this.
That's why he's involved in this fucking situation.
So that might be what comes out of it. And then I think that maybe we will see a potential run at whoever is going to be the winner out of the Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes for the third fucking year in a row.
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WrestleMania. Yeah, I don't need him to.
I think honestly, he could get away with not having a title if he just whoops everybody's ass.
Yeah, I mean what it boils down to for me is that if he whoops everybody's ass, that's the that's the floor ceiling is he becomes world champion, but he doesn't need to be that.
I just need him to be convincing as a heel and just be involved in different feuds and shit.
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Like I think he's that good that he can he can put off having a fucking title in his hands or around his waist that it won't it won't ultimately matter.
So as long as he's because this Tiffany strat I hate to tie in this Tiffany strand thing, but she ascended way too quickly.
I mean, I know she's great and everything, but I didn't expect her to make her debut on the roster and then six months or several months later be world champion.
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So in short order, knowing that they were going to have the US title or the IC title for the women's and not having her earn those things and then further solidifying that she should be moving up to the main event like Jacob that too.
I know he's on the older side, but I feel like taking their time and letting this thing simmer and boil and letting him become the heel that he should be.
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I think it's okay. Yeah, I agree.
Also, I will say about the Tiffany strat thing.
I don't think that when she won the money in the bank, I don't think they really fucking knew for sure that they were going to be doing these US and like these mid card women's titles.
And then now that those cut, I think they were like, ah fuck like we can't like we she already has the money in the bank.
So like because she would have been a great champion.
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To start her off get the ball rolling as a singles competitor.
That would be great. But since they didn't pull the trigger on that sooner, they missed out on the opportunity.
She can't backpedal just know you can't go backwards. Yeah.
So also I did say I told you earlier I said and I do mean this. I think that if they really wanted the white six to do some shit, they should have made Jacob fight to the leader.
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Oh, that's the other fucking thing.
The white six are no longer on.
I think next week's new. They're like, we can't do with this supernatural hokey shit.
So maybe we should just do away with this and it.
Damn it. Also, because that's kind of what that is an aspect of wrestling is that weird supernatural shit.
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That's part of our that's part of the cave. They bar suspension of disbelief, right?
That's what makes wrestling wrestling.
And now you've got some fucking CEOs that are like, we don't really like this, so let's just get away with that.
Don't that's that's going to be AIDS.
Even though the white six was poorly executed and it was kind of fucking stupid.
That's still what wrestling is.
You can't get those moments where like we had Chad Gable literally looked like he got shot in the fucking face on TV with them coming in.
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That was one of the coolest fucking things they've done in a long time.
Granted, they did nothing with it after that.
But that's not the point. The point being, we're not you can't have that anymore.
And I don't want wrestling to just become like reality TV.
That that was the thing I was going to get at.
But you you already said it.
I think I think Monday Night Raw, if they are leaning towards that, not having a supernat.
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And I don't even know what it could be for Netflix's point that it would be stupid to have a supernatural group
because they don't think it would play well with the other stuff that happens on Raw.
Or it's just simply they're like, oh, we don't see the value in this is kind of stupid.
But bottom line being.
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Maybe Netflix Raw.
Is becoming reality television that they need realism with the wrestlers
and then anything else that fits outside of that in this case, it would be the Wyatt six.
And fuck it. Well, you can have it on Smackdown.
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We don't want it here because we're trying to sell realism here.
Yeah, this is probably going to be more like the Netflix era is going to be more known as like this realism era
where they're trying to make this seem more like the UFC is what it's they're trying to make it seem.
Even though they come and tell us to our face that this is fake, right.
Throw it in our face and let everybody know that's not real.
I still think they're trying to make it seem like it is real.
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And it's like UFC, which is so stupid, like it's counterintuitive.
I don't like it. And I don't like Netflix deciding what is going to happen in wrestling or what they can and can't do on Raw.
That's fucking that's terrible. And the fact that again, TKO doesn't give a fuck because they just want to make money.
And whatever makes money is whatever we're doing.
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And if that's telling Netflix, you guys don't want the wife six, a relegate their ass to the fucking network television.
We don't give a fuck. Netflix doesn't want them.
Fuck off. Tell them to fuck off.
So I am surprised that Cody Rhodes hasn't been on here again.
Like I'm surprised they haven't. They're still sticking with that.
Like Gunther is still technically the champion for Raw and Cody Rhodes is still technically the champion for Smackdown.
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I don't know if that's going to be a more gradual change or a gradual shift because if Netflix is already fucking saying shit about that,
I'm sure they're complaining like why is why is your biggest two guys essentially Cody Rhodes and fucking Roman Reigns?
Why are they on the other show? Yeah. What do we got over here?
The main event, the main event on Monday night Raw was Damien Priest versus Finn Balor.
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Those guys are AIDS. That's that's garbage.
That's a shitty storyline to what I was Netflix and they have pull.
I'd be saying what the fuck guys. I think I think it's a I don't really know.
The science of putting a match card together, but just off of intuition, right?
Penta L zero. I think Penta L zero should have finished.
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Yeah, that should be the main because that at least sells the idea that he's important.
Yeah, it is being the main event for a raw having him open.
I don't know. I feel like it's a little disrespectful.
It is, but knowing that they gave us Finn Balor and Damien Priest to finish,
even though we've gotten that match numerous times, at least give us something different with Penta L zero versus Chad Gable,
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which is a great fucking match. It was. It was a good match.
They put on a good I knew they were going to put on a good show.
Those two guys, I felt like that was that was a mistake to put them on first.
But, you know,
this is what it is. I get I understand somewhat of what they were trying to do with where you want your shit,
where all this crazy fucked up shit's going to happen in the street fight.
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Yeah, maybe you want to send the audience home on that. Right.
But maybe you don't do that on the night that you're debuting a guy.
Maybe when you do a debut like this, especially with Penta, he you got to make him the main event.
Like in this already tells me that they're not he's going to have a shit singles run
here until Ray Phoenix comes in. That's what I think they're waiting for.
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I think this is a holdover. Ray Phoenix's contract is over in in a W.
Yeah. And W.W. I'm sure is already planning to sign them.
And I'm sure they're already going to fucking I'm sure they already have the rights that Lucha Bros fucking song that they use in a W.
I'm sure they're already fucking going after that shit because that's going to be they are going to need to overhaul the tag team division.
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I will say right now, I didn't even fucking know that they what's their names.
The Judgment Day lost the tag team title. Yeah.
So the Viking Raiders, I had no idea.
They talked about it in a promo and I'm like, when the fuck did this happen?
And then the Viking Raiders aren't even that interesting to begin with. No, they're not.
So it's like they're barely even memorable for people to be or for them to be champions.
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And they have kind of forming the tools.
You've got the Motor City machine guns. They're over there on fucking Smackdown.
Yeah. But there's not a lot of tag teams that are over there really that are interesting.
So if you get them, they're going to fuck about and do whatever for a year and however long until Ray Phoenix's shit is done.
Penta will have some shitty fucking singles run.
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Maybe he'll get an icy title. I don't know.
But realistically, when those two when Ray Phoenix comes back, they're going to have to put those two guys in a in a long standing program.
Those two teams, because I think they can do fucking good work together if they had a nice, good, long fucking feud.
And and listen, if you get some other teams maybe out there that you can kind of get going, I don't know what the tag team division looks like in NXT.
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I don't know if there's any decent up and coming guys that are that are, you know, potentials to, you know, get in on it.
But they need to overall tag team division for sure, man.
Oh shit. I mean, yeah, I think if anything, what you're saying about maybe getting guys from NXT jump started by going through the tech, which is something they should probably do anyways.
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Because and also maybe they should just suspend having two fucking titles and just make it one title and just.
Have it be on both fucking shows, because if it doesn't feel like there is enough for each division for both titles on each program, but might as well just make it one and have ten fucking tag teams all vying for one fucking thing.
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That would be cool. It would mean something.
And I think that's what they should be. I don't think they have enough tag teams to support to fucking.
Right now, again, we didn't even know I don't know what that was on. This was a house show. I don't know what the fuck they changed hands title. The title change hands after them. But it wasn't on TV as far as I know. And that's kind of fucking garbage. And that just shows you what they think of the fucking tag team division right now is they don't care.
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You know, it is what it is. I personally think tag team wrestling is one of the like staples of rest of wrestling program is you got to have good one at least one good tag team division like match on like a PLE or some shit like that.
Preferably for the belts. That's like that's good to go.
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And I think, you know, we've got a lot of these singles titles now, especially with the women getting two additional titles.
I think we need to cut down. I think we're getting too bloated on. I think we're trying to try to pull an AEW here. Yes, it's good. It's pushing. It's pushing that fucking line. Yeah, they're they're getting real close. And I think taking and combining the two tag belts into one that kind of helps.
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That helps, especially with the fact that they're now doing three hour PLEs and you're getting five fucking matches. There's not enough space. There's not enough real estate for some reason on these fucking match cards, which I don't understand how we used to get two hour and 30 minute pay per views to three hour pay per views when we were paying the pay per view number.
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And we would get at least seven matches, maybe even eight or nine, depending on if it was going to go closer to the three hour mark. But they were putting in in two to two and a half hours, seven to nine matches and you were getting most of the time every single belt defended.
You know, even a couple grudge matches and I think five to six belts, I think that's like your I think that should be your maximum. I don't think we should be having five or six belts per fucking show.
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And then also the women have eight different fucking belts.
Because there's two just two different fucking women's tag teams there's.
And then there's the women's intercontinental the women's US.
Then the main title, the two main titles, it's like seven titles already right there just for the women. And then the men's has two world championship belts, two tag team belts.
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They got intercontinental US.
Is there a fucking there's no Cruiserweight division anymore right now that's out.
What else is there. That's it. That's it. So there's fucking six different titles there. That's fucking too many goddamn belts. Yeah, it's bloated as fuck for. I mean, that's a lot to stuff.
Yeah, and if you're not going to address all of them on a weekly basis, I mean, what's the point, because it kind of also feels a little. What's the word man it feels a little.
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It feels like they don't have enough people to support that many belts. Yeah, yeah, that that's the that's probably like the biggest part of it is that they're like, oh, let's just put straps on it because it also dilutes the championship that they're trying to to pass off as like a thing that people want to.
Earn and shit. Yeah, and like my the way I view the older psychology of like booking matches and stuff.
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I believe that your world titles should be very rarely defended on your TV shows. They should always mainly be defended. Yeah, you can give everybody once a year.
You can give them a world title match on raw or smackdown or whatever. Right. You can do that once a year.
It should generally always be defended on a pay per view or whatever. P.L.E. The mid card and the tag belts.
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Those are your ones that you can make like the main event of Monday Night Raw can be a tag team title defense.
It can be an intercontinental title defense or a U.S. title defense. Right.
Like that's what you that's the titles that you give that can change hands on those shows or that anything could happen. And then obviously you have them defended at like the you know your pay per views or whatever.
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Right. But those should be like your main events of your weekly television shows is those belts being defended.
Even the women's belts could be main events defended. And realistically now that there are so fucking many of them, you could defend one of those every other week and still have plenty of fun.
That's like 12 or 11 belts. You could have fucking 11 title match do it every other week.
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That's 22 fucking weeks out of the year. We're basically every other week you're getting a title match on on regular TV.
You could even parse it out to fucking every full. I mean shit one a month or whatever. And then cool like that's cool.
Once a month everybody's getting the whole year everybody's getting the main some kind of title defense that they're getting to see on free TV or whatever.
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Well not anymore because Netflix is what costs money. But you know what I mean. Right. Like. Yeah. So I don't know. I feel like they're fucking up and it ain't getting any better.
I'm kind of curious if when if and when they'll pull the trigger on having Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns eventually move to.
I feel like they're missing out. But the same token. I'm wondering if USA is like now we got to have these guys too because we need we need a reason for people to watch Smackdown.
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I think I think at some point Gunther is going to end up on Smackdown. Yeah. Because they need fucking Cody on on Monday Night Raw.
They need Roman on Monday Night Raw. But I don't know how that's going to play out.
Like I don't want it to be the B show. But it might very well. I think it's still going to happen.
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I think Smackdown is going to end up being the B show. I don't know who's going to be left. Who's going to be the leftovers for Smackdown.
But I think Gunther is definitely going to. I mean they already pulled the trigger on Wyatt Six. I felt like that was going to happen and it fucking did.
I don't think Jacob Fatu deserves to be there. Now that he's kind of breaking out. It's like oh shit. Now this motherfucker has to stay here. Yeah.
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And be wasted and play like play out the plots that they're going to play out. And then maybe he'll cross over.
But it's like shit man you got the ball rolling on this month on this fucking show. Fuck my life. Yeah. Please don't waste them.
Yeah seriously. Yeah. And then also. I don't know if you've noticed this but I feel like the champions like like the main champions they don't wrestle with much anymore.
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Like I remember back in my and this is again maybe the boomer ship but even back in the early 2010s your WWE champion and your World Heavyweight Champion.
They were generally wrestling every week on the show like they were having some kind of match.
They were in a tag team match some non title match for the most part. Now I mean shit.
We've gone. This would be the third Monday Night Raw of the year and Gunther hasn't fucking wrestled in a match.
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And I don't think he's wrestling in a match at all. I don't I don't know about Cody because I didn't really fucking watch the whole thing of Smackdown.
But Cody fucking probably hasn't wrestled since whatever.
So it's like are they only fucking making them wrestle at pay per views now and they're just going to be here doing promos and shit.
Like that's kind of dumb. I don't know. They have them show up for certain like to make the saves for shit.
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But I don't know if they've actually match man. He hasn't been in an actual match like a wrestling match. I don't think I have no idea.
And that's kind of fucking that's kind of weird to me. I don't I don't get it.
Like it's like you're doing this thing where you're showing that these titles are not important in a certain sense.
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But then also you're not you're not giving us a reason why they should be important.
But you want us to believe that they're important. But like if I only see this guy wrestle once a month or once every so often.
I hope that's not what they're going to like with this UFC shit where that's that's the whole vibe they're going for.
Where oh the the you only really wrestle once every three months. You only fight at once every like three months or whatever.
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Right. That's kind of how it goes in the UFC because they've got so many people. Yeah.
And you know obviously you got to train in the conditioning and all that stuff.
But like in wrestling I feel like that's what they're doing that with the championships.
Oh they're only going to be defended like every so often. It's not going to be like every pay per view where I mean shit at least every pay per view.
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Every both championship belts would be defended back in the day like the major ones.
You mean once a pay per view you were getting that sometimes there'd be some weird thing where it'd be like some triple threat tag team match.
Or some shit where the title wasn't on the line or some shit like that. Yeah. But for the most part generally every pay per view used to get it would be a world title.
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And fuck back when they had the two belts and they were on the same pay per view and you get a world title and a WWE title match like that's what you would get.
And now I mean we're really getting like one or the other. We're not really getting both anymore.
Unless it's like the WrestleMania or Royal Rumble and even then you're probably going to get both at WrestleMania.
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SummerSlam and WrestleMania for sure. For sure you're getting both of them on those too. But that's it. Other than that you're getting like one or the other.
And that's kind of weird man. I don't like that. Yeah.
Random fucking thing to throw in at the end.
So Kevin Owens I don't remember what the exact thing was but it was a reference to Dusty Rose with the Son of a Plumber shirt.
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He had like Son of a Systems Administrator like. That was a great fucking shirt dude.
I appreciate Kevin Owens for being like the lore and continuity keeper and doing meta jokes like that.
I'm not gonna be an asshole about it.
I hope this situation that's going on hopefully at Royal Rumble between Kevin Owens and Cody Rose having a ladder match that they just pulled the trigger on Kevin Owens being champion because I think I don't know if this whole Cody Rose business is working out or it's gone on long enough.
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It's gone long enough to the point that he needs to go back to chasing.
Yeah. And Kevin Owens could be that guy that keeps it out of his hands long enough that you know they'll give it back to him eventually.
But I think I think this Cody Rose business has gotten. It's been it's been dragged out long enough that we need. We need it we need to have it passed on to a fucking heel and I think Kevin Owens has been a worthy.
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A worthy fit for it. Yeah, I'm actually interested to see what's gonna happen at the Royal Rumble. I feel like they're pulled trigger.
I have to be champion. I want them to but I don't think they're going to. I think we're gonna get Roman Reigns versus Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania for the third year in a row.
We may get lucky and there might be a Royal Rumble winner that inserts themselves into that match and we get a triple threat. How much further are we away from the Royal Rumble.
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It's I think it's February 2nd so I think we're two weeks ish. See this today is yeah one two weeks away. It's on Groundhog Day or maybe it's February 1st. It's not a Saturday.
I mean let me see real quick. Royal Rumble with cheese. Oh yeah. Saturday February 1st at 3 p.m.
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Well I'm definitely gonna be we're definitely watching this so man it's the 38th annual Royal Rumble. Neat. In Indianapolis Indiana at the Lucas Oil Stadium. Jesus.
What do they got so far for the match card. Let's see predictions whatever. Let's see. Well definitely have to do an episode predicting. Oh yeah we're gonna do a preview one for sure that week before we'll do a preview.
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Yeah we got the latter match for sure. Goldberg. Yeah. Royal Rumble predictions. World Championship Gunther versus Goldberg. Oh shit. I mean they kind of did set up that thing. That was fucking six months ago. Crown Jewel.
Intercontinental Championship. Bronbreaker versus Seamus. What was the what was the actual thing that Goldberg showed up. What pay per view is that. It's bad blood. That's right. Yeah. It was in Atlanta. That's all these assholes have. I don't know. There's no fucking way. There's there's no I swear to God.
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John Cena. Yeah I see. That's what they're calling. John Cena is gonna win the Rumble. Fuck out of here. I don't know. Fuck out of here. I know. Listen I know that's what they're gonna do. I know he's gonna win the Royal Rumble and I know they're gonna he's gonna go on and he's gonna face fucking Cody Rhodes at the fucking WWE WrestleMania main event. Hold on. They have to they got CM Punk. They got the CM Punk Paul Heyman shit. Yeah but that's what Reigns owes him a favor that they need. They need the they need the
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play that out. So I think CM Punk. I don't know if he wins it but that's his ticket to get to personally. I think they all just forget about that and they move on. That's why you think they're gonna be just pretends like that never fucking happen. We'll see. I mean I don't know because I think that's what's gonna happen. I think they're just gonna be like okay we got this John Cena shit. He's gonna win the Rumble. He's gonna fucking go on. He's gonna win the 17th title so we can fucking delete Ric Flair from existence essentially and we can all honor John Cena.
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And praise his be to his name and we can do all that stupid stupid shit. Dude somebody had a John. I think it was a scene of 316. No no it was a I think it was on Smackdown. They had somebody had a John Cena like X I N A with like the mouse a dong hair.
It was on the front row. Dude that's awesome.
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It was so good but that is props to that guy. Fuck yeah. Anyways I guess we'll make an episode of our Royal Rumble predictions. Do you think there's actually gonna be. Let's end on this note. Do you think there will be surprises for the entrance of the Royal Rumble. Not actual people.
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Do you think there will actually be surprises. What do you mean like. Because the last year there wasn't anybody outside. Oh like a debut or something like that. Oh not a debut but like old nostalgic names like fucking. Who was that vampire asshole that Edge was. Oh Gengrel. Yeah. Not that they would do that one but just in general that they would have people that have been in the ring in the past.
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It's always possible. Because the last year they didn't have any of that shit. Right. I don't think. Well here's the other thing with the amount of assholes that they showed on Monday that first Monday night raw that were there. X Pac fucking whoever else all these fucking dickheads. Yeah. I'm sure Mickey James will be in the women's Royal Rumble.
She'll make an appearance. She'll be one of the entrance. Yeah. I don't know if X Pac would go in but like I'm sure one of those fucking assholes that they showed those nostalgia guy I'm sure one of them will be in there. I don't think it's gonna be that big of a deal. But you know.
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Hell maybe maybe fucking Matt and Jeff Hardy boys come maybe the Hardy boys come that would be funny as fuck because I mean they basically got their their bid farewell and then going to TNA and then them coming back by proxy of their partnership. Yeah that should be funny as fuck.
It'll be it'll be fucking broken Matt Hardy again. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. Anyways. All right. Well that's it for us. Go to game rich magazine on Instagram YouTube tick tock. All gas no trash official on YouTube and Instagram.
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Man, that's just close enough to GCW that we might get a cease and desist letter.
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We won't, they don't got any money. They don't got the money to do that. That costs a lot of money to do.
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Anyways, welcome everybody to Game Rage Wrestling. I'm Josh, he's Adam.
Today we're going to talk about, primarily, our good buddy, friend of the show, Jacob Fatu.
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And I say that because he's a scumbag like us. I mean, I can really appreciate a guy who stiffs charities
and like, you know, fucking no-shows events and still takes the bag. I love that shit, man.
I just don't know if it's kayfabe or real.
No, it's real and I'm glad, okay? I'm glad that's real. We finally get a villain we deserve, okay?
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Somebody that actually stays in character consistently.
Yeah, someone who takes this shit seriously.
And I can't even, I think I can't even say that because I was so disgusted by Monday Night Raw
dumbing down the fact that we can't understand wrestling's not real, that there's two characters.
One's good, one's bad, or there's two people that don't like each other and they're both vying for the title.
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You're insulting my intelligence.
And also, this is not them as real people. These are just characters that they're playing.
Man, shut the fuck up, all right? We know that. Jesus Christ.
Do you think, do I want to turn on fucking Severance and have some asshole?
Do I want to have that dickhead or heli-r fucking stand up and go,
hey everybody, we just wanted to let you know that this is not real and we're not really these people.
And we're not, you know, these are characters that we're playing and this is a fictional story and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
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No, I don't want to hear that, all right? I don't need you to tell me that shit.
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Yes.
That's a lot to say.
It is quite, it is a mouthful.
I think that's, I think, I think my diabetes is acting up.
I think I need to take a break. I think we need to take a 20 minute break.
Yeah, dude. I somehow, it just, it just makes me mad.
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I didn't know shit.
It angers you. It angers you.
It agitates me. It, it, what other words you can think of in terms of anger?
Use it to substitute for whatever bullshit I'm saying.
I'm very disappointed knowing that whoever is in charge of creative, if it is Triple H,
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if it's a team of writers, if it's both, that they dragged out all this bullshit with Solo
Sokoa, dude, knowing, because I, I'm going to be honest, dude.
I knew fuck all about Jacob Fatu other than the rumors that he was coming and that he was within the
Aniwae family.
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Yeah.
That's as much as I knew. But knowing SmackDown, knowing that SmackDown, that he cut a promo
that was probably like one of the better ones. And it wasn't anything huge.
It was just how convincing he was with the words that he was delivering.
I was like, fuck dude. Why, why did you drag out the Solo Sokoa shit when you had this motherfucker right here?
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Yeah. Well think about this. He, he literally has been only allowed to just basically yell,
I love you Solo at the top of his lungs for the last fucking 12 months or however long it's been.
Yeah.
And so from going from that to now actually being allowed to kind of show who you are and what you can be,
they fucked up by not going with this. After that Survivor Series match, this should have been the storyline.
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It should have been this what's happening now. We shouldn't have had it dragged out for another fucking three months.
Yeah, up until this past, past two weeks with the debut of Monday Night Raw. I mean, man, what a missed opportunity to get the ball rolling
with Jacob Fatt two months earlier so that by the time we get to Monday Night Raw, Netflix, or actually I take that back.
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Since he's on SmackDown, it's, it's kind of irrelevant, but rather just simply the fact that they could have got the ball rolling
prior to the new year and getting him in the singles competitor role at the start of 2025 as opposed to, you know, weeks later.
I don't know. Interesting choice, I could say.
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It is. This guy, Jacob Fatt two, I'm just saying right now, man, he's going to be the next, he's like the next fucking superstar.
Oh yeah. He's top dude.
100%.
Just based on his promo?
Yeah.
Automatically in my mind, just how he's carried himself, basically being the enforcer of Solo Sokoa and has plot armor that he's invincible.
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Like, yeah, he takes numerous finishers and nobody ever actually takes him down.
And then we actually hear him speak and he can cut a promo. I was like, oh shit, dude.
They actually struck gold with this motherfucker.
Solo Sokoa can't wrestle for shit. Can't cut promos for shit. Delete. Get him out of here. Get Jacob Fatt two in there. He needs to be.
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Moon salts off the top rope.
Yeah. And he can talk shit. Man, I'm in a hundred percent. I'm gonna go buy a Jacob Fatt two t-shirt on the WWE shop right fucking now.
Yeah. And then you have a, which, which one's the useless one? Toma Tanga?
Yeah.
Toma Taga is the useless one. Toma Taga was the one that was in the ring with him with the chattering.
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That's that'll be cool to see him be like a whatever the fuck he's going to be.
Sidekick, I guess.
Yeah. I'm sure he's going to get his ass beat, but like, at least it'll be fun.
Yeah. Also, I don't know if this is, this is going to be, this is maybe a little conspiracy enforcer. Maybe I should play the conspiracy enforcer themes on for this.
But do you notice how any one of these guys who's related to the Anoa or whatever that that family line, right?
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Yes.
None of them outside of Rome. I'm talking about now since in this like modern time. Roman Reigns is maybe the last one.
None of them. None of them are in NXT. None of them go to it. They go straight to the main roster, regardless of where they came from.
And they were making, I mean, listen, they made guys who were fucking bona fide stars in other promotions go through NXT and then fucking ruin them and then ruin them in the WWE.
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Hold up. Hold up. Does that hold water? Because I feel like it does.
Because Roman was the last person to go through NXT as that family.
Because did the the Usos, did they debut?
No, I think they came straight to the fucking main roster. I don't think they were in NXT.
Who knows, man? Maybe they might have gone through OVW.
Well, what I'm saying is now in this modern time, all those dudes that they brought in, all those Simons they brought in, let's be real.
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Like, they really weren't in like they're not like, what am I trying to say?
Who made it? There were guys that were like top dudes in whatever, TNA or fucking New Japan that they made them go through NXT.
But yet these dudes were definitely not anywhere near that level of experience or kind of star power.
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But because they're related to the family, I feel like they're just they were just ushered right in.
They didn't make them do an NXT run.
Yeah, it's like the Marley family. Oh, you were the seventh child that Bob Marley had.
Or you're a you're a third cousin. Come on in.
Come on in. You got it. Good.
Yeah, I mean, should do as as you were saying in a more recent note, yes, they just circumvented going through NXT because even Finn Balor, somebody that was an experienced veteran even went through NXT.
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He went through the ranks. So here's yeah. But here's look at this.
The Usos, they were in Florida Championship Wrestling. That's technically NXT.
Hold on January 2010, they debuted on the fucking main roster May of 2010. So they weren't even in NXT.
They weren't even in that for a couple of months. And then bam, they're already up here.
Whereas, I mean, listen, they're making like dudes. Yeah, that was in 2010.
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This was this is probably maybe a bad example. This is like that Roman Reigns kind of they were still making people do that shit.
But yeah, I mean, if anybody actually needed definitely be like Tonga Lola.
Who just made it on the roster because fuck it. We needed we did in order to get Jacob fat, too.
We had to get the the runs of the litter or the rejects of the family.
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That's funny. Yeah, I mean, he just straight came into the bloodline.
All these Simone dudes just came straight in to the main roster. Fuck. I mean, listen, so was the cold probably could have benefited from fucking.
So I don't want to know his real name. I don't give a fuck.
So what's the color? Where's this thing? I'll see if he can't where he went.
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He went to college, played football. Oh, very typical of the anti white family.
That's kind of like I'm a Washington football player. Oh, I better become a wrestler.
Oh, let's see. All right. Yeah.
I mean, he was in NXT, but like he was in there for like a few months, too.
Like it wasn't even it was in 2020 or whatever.
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Mm hmm. Or 2021. And then he showed up in 2022 in the on the main roster.
So but that was again, that was also before the rock was in charge of shit.
So like now the rocks on the board, I feel like you're not going to see any Simone dudes go through NXT.
It's a free pass to straight to the main roster. And yeah, I know they maybe needed to fill out this bloodline or whatever.
But like not really. You didn't need to bring in all these guys like this.
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You could have fucking maybe held the storyline off and let them come up to the right.
They just needed the numbers in order to make it convincing. Maybe for the bloodline to have it as a stable that if it was only just solo Sacoa and.
Jacob Fatu, it wouldn't it wouldn't have been enough. Yeah, maybe.
Well, I guess we'll see what's going to end up happening with if when more because, you know, there's there's more more going to come in.
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So obviously, so I guess we'll see if they go through NXT or they fast track them.
Yeah. Also, I mean, I wasn't done with the Jacob Fatu. Yeah, no, no, neither was I. I was just talking about that.
But it was good. Yeah. I think what made his promo particularly special for me.
Is one he drew heat. Yeah.
But again, it was the conviction in his words that Solsacoa is, you know, in a state of peril.
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Oh, man, I'm washed up like I'm not the tribal chief.
And and Jacob Fatu is like carrying the torch.
Man, fuck that shit. I'm going to get it.
And then it was like how he started is like music, man, even on my worst day, I'm better than 90 percent of you, whatever the fuck it was.
And then he said, I still get mine.
And I'm like, fuck, yeah, dude. And then.
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And also he's like, oh, you thought I was crazy.
You thought I was this shit. And he knew to give enough.
Space for the crowd to react and get those what chance going. Yeah.
Like he was perceptive enough so that it was kind of give and take between the.
I'm like, this this motherfucker, like this is what being years.
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Of experience like going overseas and doing shit and other brands.
This is where you earned your stripes or this is where you all the experience that you've amounted.
This is like how somebody becomes a fucking.
A star dude is like you do all those reps of like understanding a crowd, but doing all the work, like all the in-ring work, but also the promo shit.
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Yeah, he just did all of it well, dude.
And it was just him being perceptive to that and he fucking cook, man.
Oh, dude, he did. He fucking knocked it out of the park, too.
I was I was very fucking excited that this is now the new direction that it looks like it's going with this.
And now granted, listen, he is it's not like he's on fucking raw.
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He's on Smackdown, so it is going to be sort of a waste because.
Until this storyline with Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes, whatever the fuck's going to happen with this thing going into WrestleMania.
Jacob Fattu is now kind of on the back burner.
They're letting him cook or whatever with this stuff, but I don't think he's going to be involved in any major, major storylines other than obviously he's involved.
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He may win the US title is probably what's going to happen out of this.
That's why he's involved in this fucking situation.
So that might be what comes out of it. And then I think that maybe we will see a potential run at whoever is going to be the winner out of the Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes for the third fucking year in a row.
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WrestleMania. Yeah, I don't need him to.
I think honestly, he could get away with not having a title if he just whoops everybody's ass.
Yeah, I mean what it boils down to for me is that if he whoops everybody's ass, that's the that's the floor ceiling is he becomes world champion, but he doesn't need to be that.
I just need him to be convincing as a heel and just be involved in different feuds and shit.
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Like I think he's that good that he can he can put off having a fucking title in his hands or around his waist that it won't it won't ultimately matter.
So as long as he's because this Tiffany strat I hate to tie in this Tiffany strand thing, but she ascended way too quickly.
I mean, I know she's great and everything, but I didn't expect her to make her debut on the roster and then six months or several months later be world champion.
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So in short order, knowing that they were going to have the US title or the IC title for the women's and not having her earn those things and then further solidifying that she should be moving up to the main event like Jacob that too.
I know he's on the older side, but I feel like taking their time and letting this thing simmer and boil and letting him become the heel that he should be.
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I think it's okay. Yeah, I agree.
Also, I will say about the Tiffany strat thing.
I don't think that when she won the money in the bank, I don't think they really fucking knew for sure that they were going to be doing these US and like these mid card women's titles.
And then now that those cut, I think they were like, ah fuck like we can't like we she already has the money in the bank.
So like because she would have been a great champion.
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To start her off get the ball rolling as a singles competitor.
That would be great. But since they didn't pull the trigger on that sooner, they missed out on the opportunity.
She can't backpedal just know you can't go backwards. Yeah.
So also I did say I told you earlier I said and I do mean this. I think that if they really wanted the white six to do some shit, they should have made Jacob fight to the leader.
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Oh, that's the other fucking thing.
The white six are no longer on.
I think next week's new. They're like, we can't do with this supernatural hokey shit.
So maybe we should just do away with this and it.
Damn it. Also, because that's kind of what that is an aspect of wrestling is that weird supernatural shit.
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That's part of our that's part of the cave. They bar suspension of disbelief, right?
That's what makes wrestling wrestling.
And now you've got some fucking CEOs that are like, we don't really like this, so let's just get away with that.
Don't that's that's going to be AIDS.
Even though the white six was poorly executed and it was kind of fucking stupid.
That's still what wrestling is.
You can't get those moments where like we had Chad Gable literally looked like he got shot in the fucking face on TV with them coming in.
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That was one of the coolest fucking things they've done in a long time.
Granted, they did nothing with it after that.
But that's not the point. The point being, we're not you can't have that anymore.
And I don't want wrestling to just become like reality TV.
That that was the thing I was going to get at.
But you you already said it.
I think I think Monday Night Raw, if they are leaning towards that, not having a supernat.
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And I don't even know what it could be for Netflix's point that it would be stupid to have a supernatural group
because they don't think it would play well with the other stuff that happens on Raw.
Or it's just simply they're like, oh, we don't see the value in this is kind of stupid.
But bottom line being.
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Maybe Netflix Raw.
Is becoming reality television that they need realism with the wrestlers
and then anything else that fits outside of that in this case, it would be the Wyatt six.
And fuck it. Well, you can have it on Smackdown.
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We don't want it here because we're trying to sell realism here.
Yeah, this is probably going to be more like the Netflix era is going to be more known as like this realism era
where they're trying to make this seem more like the UFC is what it's they're trying to make it seem.
Even though they come and tell us to our face that this is fake, right.
Throw it in our face and let everybody know that's not real.
I still think they're trying to make it seem like it is real.
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And it's like UFC, which is so stupid, like it's counterintuitive.
I don't like it. And I don't like Netflix deciding what is going to happen in wrestling or what they can and can't do on Raw.
That's fucking that's terrible. And the fact that again, TKO doesn't give a fuck because they just want to make money.
And whatever makes money is whatever we're doing.
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And if that's telling Netflix, you guys don't want the wife six, a relegate their ass to the fucking network television.
We don't give a fuck. Netflix doesn't want them.
Fuck off. Tell them to fuck off.
So I am surprised that Cody Rhodes hasn't been on here again.
Like I'm surprised they haven't. They're still sticking with that.
Like Gunther is still technically the champion for Raw and Cody Rhodes is still technically the champion for Smackdown.
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I don't know if that's going to be a more gradual change or a gradual shift because if Netflix is already fucking saying shit about that,
I'm sure they're complaining like why is why is your biggest two guys essentially Cody Rhodes and fucking Roman Reigns?
Why are they on the other show? Yeah. What do we got over here?
The main event, the main event on Monday night Raw was Damien Priest versus Finn Balor.
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Those guys are AIDS. That's that's garbage.
That's a shitty storyline to what I was Netflix and they have pull.
I'd be saying what the fuck guys. I think I think it's a I don't really know.
The science of putting a match card together, but just off of intuition, right?
Penta L zero. I think Penta L zero should have finished.
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Yeah, that should be the main because that at least sells the idea that he's important.
Yeah, it is being the main event for a raw having him open.
I don't know. I feel like it's a little disrespectful.
It is, but knowing that they gave us Finn Balor and Damien Priest to finish,
even though we've gotten that match numerous times, at least give us something different with Penta L zero versus Chad Gable,
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which is a great fucking match. It was. It was a good match.
They put on a good I knew they were going to put on a good show.
Those two guys, I felt like that was that was a mistake to put them on first.
But, you know,
this is what it is. I get I understand somewhat of what they were trying to do with where you want your shit,
where all this crazy fucked up shit's going to happen in the street fight.
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Yeah, maybe you want to send the audience home on that. Right.
But maybe you don't do that on the night that you're debuting a guy.
Maybe when you do a debut like this, especially with Penta, he you got to make him the main event.
Like in this already tells me that they're not he's going to have a shit singles run
here until Ray Phoenix comes in. That's what I think they're waiting for.
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I think this is a holdover. Ray Phoenix's contract is over in in a W.
Yeah. And W.W. I'm sure is already planning to sign them.
And I'm sure they're already going to fucking I'm sure they already have the rights that Lucha Bros fucking song that they use in a W.
I'm sure they're already fucking going after that shit because that's going to be they are going to need to overhaul the tag team division.
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I will say right now, I didn't even fucking know that they what's their names.
The Judgment Day lost the tag team title. Yeah.
So the Viking Raiders, I had no idea.
They talked about it in a promo and I'm like, when the fuck did this happen?
And then the Viking Raiders aren't even that interesting to begin with. No, they're not.
So it's like they're barely even memorable for people to be or for them to be champions.
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And they have kind of forming the tools.
You've got the Motor City machine guns. They're over there on fucking Smackdown.
Yeah. But there's not a lot of tag teams that are over there really that are interesting.
So if you get them, they're going to fuck about and do whatever for a year and however long until Ray Phoenix's shit is done.
Penta will have some shitty fucking singles run.
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Maybe he'll get an icy title. I don't know.
But realistically, when those two when Ray Phoenix comes back, they're going to have to put those two guys in a in a long standing program.
Those two teams, because I think they can do fucking good work together if they had a nice, good, long fucking feud.
And and listen, if you get some other teams maybe out there that you can kind of get going, I don't know what the tag team division looks like in NXT.
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I don't know if there's any decent up and coming guys that are that are, you know, potentials to, you know, get in on it.
But they need to overall tag team division for sure, man.
Oh shit. I mean, yeah, I think if anything, what you're saying about maybe getting guys from NXT jump started by going through the tech, which is something they should probably do anyways.
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Because and also maybe they should just suspend having two fucking titles and just make it one title and just.
Have it be on both fucking shows, because if it doesn't feel like there is enough for each division for both titles on each program, but might as well just make it one and have ten fucking tag teams all vying for one fucking thing.
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That would be cool. It would mean something.
And I think that's what they should be. I don't think they have enough tag teams to support to fucking.
Right now, again, we didn't even know I don't know what that was on. This was a house show. I don't know what the fuck they changed hands title. The title change hands after them. But it wasn't on TV as far as I know. And that's kind of fucking garbage. And that just shows you what they think of the fucking tag team division right now is they don't care.
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You know, it is what it is. I personally think tag team wrestling is one of the like staples of rest of wrestling program is you got to have good one at least one good tag team division like match on like a PLE or some shit like that.
Preferably for the belts. That's like that's good to go.
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And I think, you know, we've got a lot of these singles titles now, especially with the women getting two additional titles.
I think we need to cut down. I think we're getting too bloated on. I think we're trying to try to pull an AEW here. Yes, it's good. It's pushing. It's pushing that fucking line. Yeah, they're they're getting real close. And I think taking and combining the two tag belts into one that kind of helps.
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That helps, especially with the fact that they're now doing three hour PLEs and you're getting five fucking matches. There's not enough space. There's not enough real estate for some reason on these fucking match cards, which I don't understand how we used to get two hour and 30 minute pay per views to three hour pay per views when we were paying the pay per view number.
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And we would get at least seven matches, maybe even eight or nine, depending on if it was going to go closer to the three hour mark. But they were putting in in two to two and a half hours, seven to nine matches and you were getting most of the time every single belt defended.
You know, even a couple grudge matches and I think five to six belts, I think that's like your I think that should be your maximum. I don't think we should be having five or six belts per fucking show.
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And then also the women have eight different fucking belts.
Because there's two just two different fucking women's tag teams there's.
And then there's the women's intercontinental the women's US.
Then the main title, the two main titles, it's like seven titles already right there just for the women. And then the men's has two world championship belts, two tag team belts.
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They got intercontinental US.
Is there a fucking there's no Cruiserweight division anymore right now that's out.
What else is there. That's it. That's it. So there's fucking six different titles there. That's fucking too many goddamn belts. Yeah, it's bloated as fuck for. I mean, that's a lot to stuff.
Yeah, and if you're not going to address all of them on a weekly basis, I mean, what's the point, because it kind of also feels a little. What's the word man it feels a little.
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It feels like they don't have enough people to support that many belts. Yeah, yeah, that that's the that's probably like the biggest part of it is that they're like, oh, let's just put straps on it because it also dilutes the championship that they're trying to to pass off as like a thing that people want to.
Earn and shit. Yeah, and like my the way I view the older psychology of like booking matches and stuff.
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I believe that your world titles should be very rarely defended on your TV shows. They should always mainly be defended. Yeah, you can give everybody once a year.
You can give them a world title match on raw or smackdown or whatever. Right. You can do that once a year.
It should generally always be defended on a pay per view or whatever. P.L.E. The mid card and the tag belts.
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Those are your ones that you can make like the main event of Monday Night Raw can be a tag team title defense.
It can be an intercontinental title defense or a U.S. title defense. Right.
Like that's what you that's the titles that you give that can change hands on those shows or that anything could happen. And then obviously you have them defended at like the you know your pay per views or whatever.
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Right. But those should be like your main events of your weekly television shows is those belts being defended.
Even the women's belts could be main events defended. And realistically now that there are so fucking many of them, you could defend one of those every other week and still have plenty of fun.
That's like 12 or 11 belts. You could have fucking 11 title match do it every other week.
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That's 22 fucking weeks out of the year. We're basically every other week you're getting a title match on on regular TV.
You could even parse it out to fucking every full. I mean shit one a month or whatever. And then cool like that's cool.
Once a month everybody's getting the whole year everybody's getting the main some kind of title defense that they're getting to see on free TV or whatever.
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Well not anymore because Netflix is what costs money. But you know what I mean. Right. Like. Yeah. So I don't know. I feel like they're fucking up and it ain't getting any better.
I'm kind of curious if when if and when they'll pull the trigger on having Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns eventually move to.
I feel like they're missing out. But the same token. I'm wondering if USA is like now we got to have these guys too because we need we need a reason for people to watch Smackdown.
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I think I think at some point Gunther is going to end up on Smackdown. Yeah. Because they need fucking Cody on on Monday Night Raw.
They need Roman on Monday Night Raw. But I don't know how that's going to play out.
Like I don't want it to be the B show. But it might very well. I think it's still going to happen.
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I think Smackdown is going to end up being the B show. I don't know who's going to be left. Who's going to be the leftovers for Smackdown.
But I think Gunther is definitely going to. I mean they already pulled the trigger on Wyatt Six. I felt like that was going to happen and it fucking did.
I don't think Jacob Fatu deserves to be there. Now that he's kind of breaking out. It's like oh shit. Now this motherfucker has to stay here. Yeah.
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And be wasted and play like play out the plots that they're going to play out. And then maybe he'll cross over.
But it's like shit man you got the ball rolling on this month on this fucking show. Fuck my life. Yeah. Please don't waste them.
Yeah seriously. Yeah. And then also. I don't know if you've noticed this but I feel like the champions like like the main champions they don't wrestle with much anymore.
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Like I remember back in my and this is again maybe the boomer ship but even back in the early 2010s your WWE champion and your World Heavyweight Champion.
They were generally wrestling every week on the show like they were having some kind of match.
They were in a tag team match some non title match for the most part. Now I mean shit.
We've gone. This would be the third Monday Night Raw of the year and Gunther hasn't fucking wrestled in a match.
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And I don't think he's wrestling in a match at all. I don't I don't know about Cody because I didn't really fucking watch the whole thing of Smackdown.
But Cody fucking probably hasn't wrestled since whatever.
So it's like are they only fucking making them wrestle at pay per views now and they're just going to be here doing promos and shit.
Like that's kind of dumb. I don't know. They have them show up for certain like to make the saves for shit.
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But I don't know if they've actually match man. He hasn't been in an actual match like a wrestling match. I don't think I have no idea.
And that's kind of fucking that's kind of weird to me. I don't I don't get it.
Like it's like you're doing this thing where you're showing that these titles are not important in a certain sense.
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But then also you're not you're not giving us a reason why they should be important.
But you want us to believe that they're important. But like if I only see this guy wrestle once a month or once every so often.
I hope that's not what they're going to like with this UFC shit where that's that's the whole vibe they're going for.
Where oh the the you only really wrestle once every three months. You only fight at once every like three months or whatever.
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Right. That's kind of how it goes in the UFC because they've got so many people. Yeah.
And you know obviously you got to train in the conditioning and all that stuff.
But like in wrestling I feel like that's what they're doing that with the championships.
Oh they're only going to be defended like every so often. It's not going to be like every pay per view where I mean shit at least every pay per view.
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Every both championship belts would be defended back in the day like the major ones.
You mean once a pay per view you were getting that sometimes there'd be some weird thing where it'd be like some triple threat tag team match.
Or some shit where the title wasn't on the line or some shit like that. Yeah. But for the most part generally every pay per view used to get it would be a world title.
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And fuck back when they had the two belts and they were on the same pay per view and you get a world title and a WWE title match like that's what you would get.
And now I mean we're really getting like one or the other. We're not really getting both anymore.
Unless it's like the WrestleMania or Royal Rumble and even then you're probably going to get both at WrestleMania.
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SummerSlam and WrestleMania for sure. For sure you're getting both of them on those too. But that's it. Other than that you're getting like one or the other.
And that's kind of weird man. I don't like that. Yeah.
Random fucking thing to throw in at the end.
So Kevin Owens I don't remember what the exact thing was but it was a reference to Dusty Rose with the Son of a Plumber shirt.
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He had like Son of a Systems Administrator like. That was a great fucking shirt dude.
I appreciate Kevin Owens for being like the lore and continuity keeper and doing meta jokes like that.
I'm not gonna be an asshole about it.
I hope this situation that's going on hopefully at Royal Rumble between Kevin Owens and Cody Rose having a ladder match that they just pulled the trigger on Kevin Owens being champion because I think I don't know if this whole Cody Rose business is working out or it's gone on long enough.
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It's gone long enough to the point that he needs to go back to chasing.
Yeah. And Kevin Owens could be that guy that keeps it out of his hands long enough that you know they'll give it back to him eventually.
But I think I think this Cody Rose business has gotten. It's been it's been dragged out long enough that we need. We need it we need to have it passed on to a fucking heel and I think Kevin Owens has been a worthy.
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A worthy fit for it. Yeah, I'm actually interested to see what's gonna happen at the Royal Rumble. I feel like they're pulled trigger.
I have to be champion. I want them to but I don't think they're going to. I think we're gonna get Roman Reigns versus Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania for the third year in a row.
We may get lucky and there might be a Royal Rumble winner that inserts themselves into that match and we get a triple threat. How much further are we away from the Royal Rumble.
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It's I think it's February 2nd so I think we're two weeks ish. See this today is yeah one two weeks away. It's on Groundhog Day or maybe it's February 1st. It's not a Saturday.
I mean let me see real quick. Royal Rumble with cheese. Oh yeah. Saturday February 1st at 3 p.m.
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Well I'm definitely gonna be we're definitely watching this so man it's the 38th annual Royal Rumble. Neat. In Indianapolis Indiana at the Lucas Oil Stadium. Jesus.
What do they got so far for the match card. Let's see predictions whatever. Let's see. Well definitely have to do an episode predicting. Oh yeah we're gonna do a preview one for sure that week before we'll do a preview.
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Yeah we got the latter match for sure. Goldberg. Yeah. Royal Rumble predictions. World Championship Gunther versus Goldberg. Oh shit. I mean they kind of did set up that thing. That was fucking six months ago. Crown Jewel.
Intercontinental Championship. Bronbreaker versus Seamus. What was the what was the actual thing that Goldberg showed up. What pay per view is that. It's bad blood. That's right. Yeah. It was in Atlanta. That's all these assholes have. I don't know. There's no fucking way. There's there's no I swear to God.
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John Cena. Yeah I see. That's what they're calling. John Cena is gonna win the Rumble. Fuck out of here. I don't know. Fuck out of here. I know. Listen I know that's what they're gonna do. I know he's gonna win the Royal Rumble and I know they're gonna he's gonna go on and he's gonna face fucking Cody Rhodes at the fucking WWE WrestleMania main event. Hold on. They have to they got CM Punk. They got the CM Punk Paul Heyman shit. Yeah but that's what Reigns owes him a favor that they need. They need the they need the
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play that out. So I think CM Punk. I don't know if he wins it but that's his ticket to get to personally. I think they all just forget about that and they move on. That's why you think they're gonna be just pretends like that never fucking happen. We'll see. I mean I don't know because I think that's what's gonna happen. I think they're just gonna be like okay we got this John Cena shit. He's gonna win the Rumble. He's gonna fucking go on. He's gonna win the 17th title so we can fucking delete Ric Flair from existence essentially and we can all honor John Cena.
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And praise his be to his name and we can do all that stupid stupid shit. Dude somebody had a John. I think it was a scene of 316. No no it was a I think it was on Smackdown. They had somebody had a John Cena like X I N A with like the mouse a dong hair.
It was on the front row. Dude that's awesome.
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It was so good but that is props to that guy. Fuck yeah. Anyways I guess we'll make an episode of our Royal Rumble predictions. Do you think there's actually gonna be. Let's end on this note. Do you think there will be surprises for the entrance of the Royal Rumble. Not actual people.
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Do you think there will actually be surprises. What do you mean like. Because the last year there wasn't anybody outside. Oh like a debut or something like that. Oh not a debut but like old nostalgic names like fucking. Who was that vampire asshole that Edge was. Oh Gengrel. Yeah. Not that they would do that one but just in general that they would have people that have been in the ring in the past.
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It's always possible. Because the last year they didn't have any of that shit. Right. I don't think. Well here's the other thing with the amount of assholes that they showed on Monday that first Monday night raw that were there. X Pac fucking whoever else all these fucking dickheads. Yeah. I'm sure Mickey James will be in the women's Royal Rumble.
She'll make an appearance. She'll be one of the entrance. Yeah. I don't know if X Pac would go in but like I'm sure one of those fucking assholes that they showed those nostalgia guy I'm sure one of them will be in there. I don't think it's gonna be that big of a deal. But you know.
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Hell maybe maybe fucking Matt and Jeff Hardy boys come maybe the Hardy boys come that would be funny as fuck because I mean they basically got their their bid farewell and then going to TNA and then them coming back by proxy of their partnership. Yeah that should be funny as fuck.
It'll be it'll be fucking broken Matt Hardy again. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. Anyways. All right. Well that's it for us. Go to game rich magazine on Instagram YouTube tick tock. All gas no trash official on YouTube and Instagram.
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