2025 gamers Therapy EP 16 Tariffs and gaming

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Already welcome you guys to our Sunday Gamers Therapy show.
We have a topic today because I know it's on
a lot of people's minds, and so for those of
you on the podcast, we're gonna do it slightly different
when you hear this, it's gonna be more. We'll try
to kind of just cover this topic. We will see

(00:32):
how it goes, and there'll be some I got a
little idea for some questions and and things like that.
So we really are grateful for you guys. Thank you
to all the new members who have joined us recently.
Our anniversary today and I know a lot of people

(00:53):
today with out with their moms having a good day,
and so we're just here to chit chat and well
we hope everybody's having a good day. I would like
to before we get started as gamers, we all love
most of us love coffee or tea. We love pets.
So I'm going to got to find where to do

(01:14):
this right there, moved around me. So first I'd like
to share this with you here, Food for Farmers. This
is it's a charity that we really really support. These
people are hard working people. They're coffee farmers. In other
parts of the world. They're already working, they're already trying

(01:35):
to support their family, and we support this group.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
This is a legit organization. We asked that you go
check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
They have a little about us tab up there that
you can look at. If you feel like you want
to donate, you can. But we enjoy our coffee, so
we enjoy these people's hard work to get it to
us here.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
We just want to give them a shout out. Okay,
so food for.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Farmers Dot Org there, it's it's really good. The next
one that I'm going to share with you is we
all have animals, right, So this is the East Texas
Hiff and Paw. They are into animal rescue. They help

(02:25):
all sorts of animals, not just cats and dogs. Most
of us gamers have animals, and I love my dog.
So I just kind of like to share it to
you guys. What what is the gamers and coffee likes
to to back? Now to get on with this this
this show today, this is a little different show. So

(02:47):
a lot of people have been talking about tariff So
I'm just gonna I did a lot of research in
the last couple of days between today.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Today's my National's anniversary.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
We kind of rent in a cabin Friday night and Saturday,
so we just got back into town today, so a
lot of this research.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Is today too.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Now, with that being said, this is non political. It's
not about who's right or wrong. It's just, hey, what's
gonna happen with gaming in tariffs? So I'll share a
little bit there with you guys. But we're not going
to bring in any politics. That's not what we're here for.

(03:27):
We're just gonna kind of go over it because we're
not here to blame anybody in particular, or any government
or any country.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's just as gamers. It's gonna affect.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Us a lot of gamers we've been talking about in
the community. So this time we just kind of wanted
to have a topic we were going to discuss. I
did some things I'd like to share with you, so
in case you don't know, you know, then maybe just
get your guys's opinion on a few things too. But
like I said, we're not we don't support one side
or the other, one country or another. It's just we're

(03:58):
just gamers. We support gamers man, and tariffs are nothing new.
So hey, Charles, how are you We're glad that you're here, sir.
See today we have a little bit of a.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Subject. So I just was going to touch on nothing.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, I was going to touch on just the tariffs.
We can talk about other things. But I know it's
a lot of people aren't sure what tariffs are. So
Greg's got a bunch of things here. So tariffs, just
for those who aren't sure they're tax is placed on
imported goods by a country's government when the goods are

(04:38):
brought into that country from another. Tariffs are collected, typically
is a percentage of the imported goods value. The purpose
of tariffs could be to generate revenue for a government,
or protect their domestic industries from foreign competition, or to
exert pressure diplomatic pressure in other countries. So that's what

(05:01):
a tariff is. Oh hey, pylomochus, hide my material. You
call them my material like everyone else does. Oh cool,
Hopefully something someone could call me so I could get
a day off. But but I'm glad you're here at telemoicus.
See today we have a topic, right, we generally don't

(05:22):
have topics general, but this has become such a big
thing and I've seen a whole bunch of just you know,
things going on. I just thought it'd be kind of
cool too. We're all gamers, so you know, it's whatever
these countries do, and there's multiple ones involved in all this,
it's it affects us as gamers. And so again, and

(05:47):
I'll say it repeatedly, this isn't a political podcast by
any means.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
We're in the gaming. These tariffs effect are gaming.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
So this kind of didn't overview what tariffs are, how
they work. Tariffs are set up by a country's government.
They're usually collected by customs authorities that a border. When
goods enter the country. For instance, like we talked about
the week before, there's tariffs on our exports.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Every country.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
When they send something somewhere, it doesn't it doesn't matter
when it gets to the destination at the other country.
Sports there's tariffs involved. This is This is kind of
the way it is. They're generally calculated on a percentage.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Or the value of the goods.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You know, as far as impacting businesses, the business that
the import goods are therefore that they.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Have to pay that tariffs. Yeah, Charles, we're gonna talk
about that.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
So hang around that what you just said there about
you don't plan and order anything from overseas. Your things
can be counseled. Sure, I get that. That's why I
kind of got a couple of things. I just was
letting people know what tariffs are, how they work, and
so passing on the cost. Obviously, when a business in

(07:09):
any country has to pay tariffs on goods that are
coming in, then they're gonna have to, you know, pass out. Now,
this has been going on for centuries. This is nothing,
nothing new.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
It's just a.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, there's a whole lot of misinformation out there, Telemachus.
And that's why I wanted to do this today. Is again,
it's not about politics. It's not about any particular government
or any particular administration. It's just hit chatting with gamers
who are also concerned because the nutshell is, hey, things

(07:48):
are things are going to go up, right, But getting
back to how they work, I mean, these increased costs,
they're overall the imported goods.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
You know, it's going to lead to potentially higher price.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're going to have the economic effects though also sometimes
tariffs protect that country individual you know, domestic products to
make it more competitive. It's obviously revenue generation all the
countries participated in that, and it can also be used
as a trade barrier, you know. So basically tariffs are

(08:21):
just attacks that affect the cost of importing goods that
impact businesses, consumers, and trade relationships. So tariffs, they have
gone back for quite a bit. I kind of looked
into that. So tariffs have been used for centuries as
a tool for trade regulation and revenue generation. Their usage

(08:44):
dates back to ancient times, with examples found in Greece
and Rome. Rome ones, you know, literally started a lot
of stuff. They fell apart if you look back at
their issue because they just kind of rotten from the
inside out, you know what I mean. And to them

(09:07):
because yeah, there's a lot of misinformation for self serving
opportunities in this case, I'm getting you what I found.
Lots of information I've found and it's just the facts.
It's not for any particular purpose other than us as gamers. Man,
if gamers don't know what's going on, then how they

(09:28):
going to deal with it?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right, So that's why I said, it's not a political thing.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's just these kind of things are going on and
some people honestly think that it's something new. But tariffs, again,
they go back to Greece and Rome, tariffs always So
there's a site called what is it shapiro dot com
It says so they were looking at that tariffs were

(09:51):
used in Greece and Rome to regulate commerce and collect revenue.
They also served as a foundation for trade systems later
and to ensure that the.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Royal treasuries were stocked.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
So from a global perspectives, tariffs have been used worldwide
for centuries, with multiple and almost all nations and point
them for various economic.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And political reasons.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Right so right now they just tariffs have a history,
you know, for a long time, and it's a revenue
generating measure. Now what's that going to do for us?
That's I did some research for us, you guys, for
tabletop gaming, for video gaming, and for three D printing.

(10:34):
Because everybody can guess in the long term, this or
this or this might go up, this may not.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Some things will and you know, but on.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
The other hand, not necessarily for a long term, because
all these businesses who are involved in making money, and
right now you got to two major countries duking it out.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
The restaur all involved in tariffs also you know everywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
But what will happen is manufacturers are already just working
their way around that. You know what I'm saying, So
who pays the tariffs? Telemocus, that's a question, you said.
The real question is so I know you already know
it that you're so for everyone out there. The real

(11:21):
answer to that is me and you wherever you live,
whatever country you live in. If there's a tariff placed
on an import when it comes into DOC, it's going
to be assessed. Generally, you know, they're around ten percent,
eight seven, ten percent, And then I noticed that there's
some countries I didn't even hear it, but they run

(11:43):
sixteen twenty percent. So ten percent is not really too
bad at tariff. I mean, on one hundred dollars, it's
a dollar, so it's not like it's explosive.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
What gets explosive is.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
When you're doing one hundred twenty one hundred and thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And yeah, stolomachas will kind of cover that too.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think the whole situation, even though historically tariffs have
been there for a few thousand years, right now there's
a lot of fear and there is price there's price
gouching involved even on things that are not covered because
not every single product is covered under tariffs in all countries,
so it's I mean, obviously, so when I looked up

(12:30):
specifically what it's going to do for tabletop gaming and
specifically what it's going to do about video gaming, and
specifically what it's gonna do, you know, like Xbox owners,
PlayStation owners and three D printing and all that, and
so I just kind of wanted to spread the word
with you guys. Again, I see numbers are kind of

(12:51):
joining online. This is not a political discussion. We are
not affiliated with any country, any political party, nothing. We're
just gamers kind of caught like everybody else is in
a tug of war, you know, and that happens off
and on. But I just kind of wanted to cover
some of what it's gonna do for us in general

(13:13):
as gamers, because there's gonna be a short term hike
on some of it obviously, But you know, the manufacturers
are also not going to stick with countries where they
get all their stuff and it's imported that's too much.
They just go to some other country and get it
made cheap because they're in business to make money. They're
not gonna they're not gonna sit there and lose out
of money, you know what I mean. So in your

(13:35):
standard tariffs, Like I said, all of this have been
paying all along anyways that nobody's ever ever complained. It's
just now you have two entities dooking it out, and
so for that.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
It's it's gonna cost us a little.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
So these tariffs are looking up exactly for we're gonna
start tabletop gaming first. Okay, so the tariffs, Oh hey,
many warm up from water burner. See go through a drag,
dang man, get a good burder. You know what, Well,
we're done. We're just gonna grill some haburgers. I found

(14:12):
a place that when we are camping, it was just
a little storm, but they had some smoke beef brisket.
So I'm going to chop that up, mix it with
some barbecue sauce, grill a burger, and put those two
together and have a barbecue brisket burger when we're done.
So you enjoy your water burger. Man and Charles ar

(14:38):
mentioning that some things have gone up. So as of today,
there are certain website you don't like, the commercial trades
and all that. You can look at the websites generally
with our country except for one, all the all the
import tariffs are ten percent on all of them.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's just this.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Country in China they're doing a standoff, so you gotta
remember the other Again. I don't think manufacturers are gonna
sit here and wait, because neither one's budgeting on that, right.
They just keep increasing it. So anyways, these tariffs, the
primary issue is gonna be that most of your tabletop
games are produced in everyone I'm sure knows primarily in China.

(15:22):
So China's reciprocal one hundred and forty five tariffs on
imports and things like that means literally the imports that
they got for us, which were a lot of like
soybean oils, things like that, it's gonna cost their their
people a lot more money to buy, just like it's
gonna cost us if we buy something from them a
lot more until it goes back down to where it was,

(15:48):
and so it's gonna do a lot more.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
I'm just gonna kind of break it down. I just
I did some looking around.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
So for instance, there was a Rolling Stone article too,
So one of the publishers estimates a game, say the
game this is the.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Example game generally costs three dollars to produce.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
A game in that in China, and now it's gonna
cost five, and so that three dollars game will now
end up being with the tariffs and stuff, a twenty
to twenty five dollar game which would now be sold
to you for forty. So you would have normally got
it for twenty five dollars, but now it's gonna be forty,

(16:28):
see what I mean. So publishers, then you know they're
gonna consider shifting productions to other countries to avoid tariffs.
Like I said, they're not gonna sit there and lose money.
They're just gonna they're gonna move on. And that's what

(16:49):
they were looking at with China. And that's kind of
the figures I got. Or another one's three dollars could
be four sixty two before being shipped to the US
with an additional cost would be forty dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Products.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
So see, generally, generally corporations we're having their games that
made for three to five dollars and that you're buying
them for sixty. Okay, now it's gonna cost another forty dollars.
So now normally you pay sixty, now it's gonna be
one hundred. Well, the manufacturers know that their retail base

(17:21):
is not gonna do that, so they're just they're already
looking for another country other than China.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
To to, you know, have their manufacturing done.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's like all over the internet. So it's gonna put
off their shifting their production. Like I said, to other
countries to avoid tariffs, and the smaller publishers, I said,
they think the impact will be they're just gonna face
greater challenges and absorbing cost increases.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
They're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
To reduce their operations, maybe shut down, but most are
just gonna relocate or move. Like you guys watched Apple do.
They just went to another country. They just like, we're
not going to play this game, and they moved. They
just moved it somewhere else, so you know, So that's
that's how it's going to affect your tabletop gaming, your

(18:12):
board game, board gaming particularly.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I looked at I know a lot of our.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Followers are forty k followers, which is in the UK,
which is interesting. The UK has a very large tariff
on us, so if we exported anything and they buy
anything from this country, it's I think at this point,
and same with like Canada. So these countries that they're

(18:38):
trading with. There's a couple that are just kind of
always had tariffs back and forth, but now it's just
bounce in. Except for I didn't say I'm looking up
and I was trying to so games workshops in the UK,
so which I mean, they're in Nottingham, England. That's that's

(18:59):
where they're at.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And I just looked this up a day ago.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
So they they impose ten percent on this country for imports,
So just someone there, it's just going to be, you know,
ten percent more than it normally would for buying from
here and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Some of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Telem because he's he's affiliated with the Free State of Antarctica.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh yeah, it's it's really free. Go down there and
see what happens.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
That is funny. Hey John, how are you. I haven't
talked to you for a while. Man, I'm glad you
stopped by. I think you're gonna see. I mean, I
had all this stuff by research for you guys, lots
and lots of it. You know that I'm kind of
just reading from all the professionals because I'm not I'm
not a professional. I'm not affiliated with any political party.

(19:55):
I'm not affiliated with anything. We're poor and game and
you know these things are gonna affect us. But again,
I kind of think it just makes sense. You watch
d Apple do it. These other ones aren't gonna lose
out of money. They're just they're just gonna go somewhere else.
So the reason you don't see Greg panicking is honestly,
I think short term. Sure, so there's gonna be some

(20:17):
thing spiking, but it doesn't mean that it's gonna stay.
Because let's face, if you own a business and used
to getting your game made for three dollars and selling
it for sixty and just making a killing on the consumer,
and the consumer is good with that price, you're not
gonna lose half of that and stay put. You're gonna
go somewhere else where you can get all that revenue

(20:38):
back and still keep your customer base, because well, you're
gonna want to be in business.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
So for now, that's what there things were. Again, for
those of you that join their their cost was generally three.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
To five dollars for a board game, and China, any
any of the companies, all of them. That's just the
roughly the cost. But you got to remember tariffs work
both ways.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's not a one way street, right, So they're just
gonna you've already got them just moving. So for tabletop gaming,
I think short term, yeah, things are gonna get expensive
with some of the stuff, and you know that's just
the way. That's just the way the world works. Again,

(21:27):
so I want to do a little background. Tariffs are
not something that just happened last month. Tariffs have been
around for thousands of years. It's in all countries, almost
all of them have tariffs against all the others. It's
how they do business, right, So Charles says, some kind
of deal. So when I checked.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
This morning, this is this morning.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Just according to Global News, there are seventy five countries,
including ours, that have all come together and are they're
all negotiating for something that's fair to all them.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
And these were ones that were already to begin with.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I have to try to find a website, but it
shows like shows like, for instance, what countries tariffs on others,
so like ours in the United States, everybody's focused on China,
but that's because China and the United States are duking
it out. All the rest of the tariffs are ten percent,
that's a dollar aund one hundred dollars. That's that's nobody
notices that, So that's you know, that's not effecting.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
But because we consume in this country.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
So much from China, it's it's unreal what this country's basically,
we're just consumers.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
We don't produce a whole lot anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
So that is going to affect us, but also affects
them because they raised theirs too, right, so they uped it.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
This gets up, they up it again.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
But then you go look on the shipyard boards and
they got all these ships sitting out there. They got
their products aren't going really too many places. So both
these both these two entities need to figure it out.
In the meantime, everyone else is like, hey, we're not
playing that game. We're just gonna work around it. So
which I'm glad to see because they're not. They're they're

(23:09):
not just sitting there. Tells me we're not gonna be
stuck forever with crazy stuff. You know, we are doing well,
mister Wise. It is our anniversary today. We just got
back in town this morning. Greg spent several hours going
through this stuff that I'm getting through in a few minutes. Hey,
let forard, how are you sir? So tabletop, that's where

(23:33):
that's at. You're you're just seeing them moving around their productions.
You're gonna see some things go up. I don't think
My biggest worry, I guess would be I think some everybody,
and I don't mean just in the gaming industry, there's
gonna be a lot of them price gouging and saying, oh,
it's the tariffs, when not every product is tariff to
begin with. You know, it's not any in all products,

(23:56):
it's specific products. So if I I just think there's
gonna be price gouging, no matter what industry, you're gonna
have those that are gonna take all the fear and
they're gonna run with it, and they're gonna go, oh,
this part used to cost you two hundred dollars, not
cost six.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
So it's tariffs.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Well, it's probably not not on all of it, because
you know, that's just how businesses do it. Now video games,
I got two pages here, So one will video game
prices be affected by tariffs? According to the Consumer Technology Association,
of the price of video game consoles, now this is

(24:34):
a good it's not for sure could rise sixty nine
percent due to tariffs, and approximately thirty four percent on laptops.
So for those of us that have consoles console gaming,
you know you already got your console, you're gonna be okay.
But let's just say it breaks and you want to
you want to get another console. As of this morning,

(24:57):
I got online. Everywhere I checked, like Xbox PS five
prices are all they're all the same. Although I did
find a couple like here or there, and they've got
astronomical prices.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
But that's not your major companies and main stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
So so Yahoo Finance article that I was reading there
or said video game consoles are generally not exempt from
any tariffs, even though some other electronics are.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay, Hello, there's more people joining again. Welcome.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
We're just gamers talking about tariffs. It's a non political
We're not on either side. We're not for any country
in particular. We're just talking about how it impacts us gamers.
And for those of you who've been here this since
we started, I'm gonna say that multiple times so that
as people come through they know this is not We're
not sitting here ranting and rabian one way or another.

(25:52):
We're just looking at how it impacts you and us,
because we all love the game one way or another.
We have video game too, so hey. So some exemptions
have been made for certain electronic products like laptops and smartphones.
The video game consoles and their accessories have been specifically
excluded from these exemptions. So particularly, any console, especially those

(26:16):
manufactured in China, will face significant terraffs increase, raising the
price for consumer of other sources like Xbox.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Is it affected by terraffs tariffs?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yes, but Microsoft has announced price increases for Xbox consoles, controllers,
and accessories. They cite market conditions and the rising cost
of development, which is partially attributed to the tariffs, It says,
though well, Microsoft hasn't explicitly blamed tariffs, the price increases

(26:48):
is aligned with concerns about that impact on the global
supply chain and cost of manufacturing.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
So there we go at the cost of manufacturing.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay, these companies are just already looking for other places.
So the longer this goes on, the more these other
countries who've been wanting to have some of this work,
they're gonna get it. Because on retail, you want to
stay in business, right, you want to make your customers happy,
and you want to make it affordable. Otherwise they're not

(27:18):
going to continue to buy. So a little bit more
detailed explanation, They said Microsoft raised the recommended retail prices
of Xbox Series S and Series X consoles.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
As well as some of the accessories.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
The global impact of this is the price increases were
not limited just to the US. They affect Europe, to UK, Australia,
in other countries that receive those adjustments locally.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So Microsoft is not pointing any fingers at anybody.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
They just mentioned wider market concerns, so you know, it's
obviously a concern.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh yeah, to let because you're right. So the PS five, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Mean, for everybody knows an Xbox, there's lots of you
guys a game on the PS five.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
So I'll read to you from this.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So the industry experts and news outlets have connected the
price increases the tariffs, UH, particularly those on Chinese good
which are the common and global supply chain for electronics.
So Sony is likely to be affected by potential tariffs,
probably a little more so than others. Some initial tariffs

(28:29):
on consoles were suspended at the possibility of future terriffs,
especially if this US China trade situation worsens is a concern.
So because they're not sure what's gonna happen to, a
lot of them are just raising prices. You know, we
are talking about how tariffs affect us gamers, including you,

(28:50):
but it's non political.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
We're not for one side or the other.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
We just got back from our anniversary at the cabin
today as our anniversary, so this is just about how
it affects you guys. Oh, hey, Metho said, I know.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I've been keeping up on it.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Hey man, I'm proud of myself this time. I researched
a whole bunch of this topic and it's just all neutral.
So it's just news for you guys. There is no
political bashing or anything else, because that's everyone that watches
us all the time knows. That's not what we're about anyways.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
So what after Meta said happy Mother's Day?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Well, brother hobbies, what about us uglies?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Hey to lemocass that that ugly screensavorite thing I put
up there on the camera. It helps so you guys
don't have to stare at my mug. So I hope
it doesn't break. I may not be able to afford
another one depends, so impact on prices you know, it's expected,
according to the Electronic Times that console manufacturers like Sewing,

(29:59):
you're gonna pass us on these increased cost to consumers
through higher prices. Some prices have already been observed going out,
particularly in international market. Sonya is raising the price of
the PS five in Europe, Australia and New Zealand Industry
announces warrant full implementation of tariffs could lead to significant prices,

(30:22):
making it harder and accessible for the regular consumers.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Okay, So because.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
That's a concern and they don't know what direction it
goes in, it's you know, it's something that they're just
kind of gearing up for. On a positive note, man
I found there's no tariffs generally do not directly affect
the price of any downloadable DLC content or digital games.

(30:51):
So if the games are digital, which most of them
are anymore, it's not going to affect you for the
most part, in the digital games.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So that's kind of a I went through. Like I
said earlier, I don't see any higher prices on average.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I made the note on this page two there's a
lot of fear mongering, political rhetoric. Price gouging has started,
and you got to remember people are gonna.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Want to try to profit off of the situation.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
However, in short, you know, it's just going to be
a little expensive till they get themselves figured out, right.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
That's why I did a little background too on tariffs.
It's not a new thing.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's been around since the Roman days historically, and all
countries have tariffs on each other.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's always been that way.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's just you got a fight between two now and
they're not backing down. So that doesn't mean everything's you know,
we're all gonna die and all this stuff that I
see all the time on TikTok. I see a lot
of people posting that the ports are empty, but then
you see the other ports or not, so you know

(32:04):
the ports that's gonna that's commerce. It's gonna depend you
got on the shipboards you can look at online. You
got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of ships
just sitting off the coast of China not really going anywhere.
So as for us, on the other hand, those products
are gonna come in, so you're gonna have that dip

(32:24):
where the supplies are gonna go down.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
People are gonna take advantage of it. And spike it.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
But you're also watching the manufacturers simply going somewhere else, right,
That's that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
So I don't think it's a.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think it's gonna get expensive for a little bit,
but it's more like kind of ride it out and
just try to stay out of the the insanity that
all these places are.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Going to try to use.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So the last I wanted to cover a three D
printing because almost all of us are doing three D printing.
So yes, tariffs are going to significantly impact the three
D printing industry, particularly on US in the United States,
because the tariffs imported on goods, especially from China, have
increased the cost of three D printing and materials filament

(33:15):
like filament, making technology more expensive and less accessible. And
mostly that's due to the tariffs on the various components
of materials used in the three D printing including their plastics,
metal parts, electronics, and sol So they did a breakdown.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
On the increased costs.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Tariffs on imports from China have led to significant employce
increase in the price of three D printers, so impact
on the hobby. The cost of these going up obviously
makes it less affordable for business and hobbyists until someone
else does it cheaper, you know what I mean. So

(33:58):
potentially I will impact the growth and adoption they think
of three D printing. I don't think it's gonna I
don't think it's gonna stop people from wanting to do
three D printing.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
People are just gonna wait, you know, for it to
go down.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
So I think, you know, uh, some companies right now though,
so they are restoring and working on localized manufacturing. Companies
are now looking at the possibility of reshoring production manufacturer parts.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
To avoid the terriffs.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Again, they're they're gonna avoid it like the other manufacturers
like Apple, Apples all its phones are trying to like
and we're not playing this game.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
So now they're going to India and some other places
otherwise it.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Apple phones are expensive anyways, but you know it would
be too much. So there that's all these companies are doing.
So in the meantime, you guys, there's gonna be this up,
you know what I mean, But eventually it's it's.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Not gonna stay up that way. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Also, in some cases, the ability of three D printing
to enable localized manufacturing can be a solution to mitigate
the impact of tariffs. So you understand, some of these
companies are already big time in a three D. They're
just gonna start. They're just gonna start making their own
ports instead of buying them. I mean, they already have
the machines. So yep, a wolf Brother. Obviously stals won't

(35:24):
be effected.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
You keep doing that. I got them for right now.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Hey, I need to look at the chat. I put
time into.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
This, exactly. I got them. They're good.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
So until obviously, you guys our country and China come
to an agreement, which you know they're gonna have to.
Short term, it's it's gonna get pricing for us left
because I mean, people are going.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
To capitalize on it too.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm telling you, they're just gonna tell you, oh yeah,
it's this and this, there'll be more than what the
tariffs are. They're just gonna add money to it. That's
what a lot of people are gonna do. But we've
already watched, at least globally in the mainstream, you're already
seeing companies simply doing something else. It doesn't it just doesn't.

(36:10):
It's not gonna stay. People aren't gonna these companies aren't
gonna continue to to lose money. They're just gonna They're
just gonna do something else.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's all they're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I have.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Just kind of wanted to cover all that, you guys,
because it's a whole lot h and people are people
are actually wondering, and I'm not one. I'm not here
to do any kind of fear mongering or anything. This
is just stacks of paper, you know, that's online and

(36:50):
I thought, you know, I've seen this. Oh my god,
We're not gonna have tabletop games anymore.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's all gonna you know, I don't think so they're
just you got too ento. He's duking it out. It's in.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
It's chess. So at some point day you remember all
the other countries aren't doing all that. There's a couple
engaged in how many countries in this world? And there's
there's three or so of them just kind of picking
around with each other. They're just just goes somewhere else
for the manufacturing. Uh, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
John. Looks like Tolmi.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Kisses is answering that though, But I just kind of
wanted to run that past you guys, so that don't
let politics and fear mongering and you know, excessive price gouging.
You know what.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, so I'm gonna get this way. So what so
if my fifteen.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Dollars res and I can't get it right now, you
know what happens if tomorrow disappears. I guess I won't
print anything for a little bit. If he goes up
to one hundred dollars a bottle, why would I?

Speaker 3 (37:59):
I just wait, you know, we have plenty of games
that we don't need to print anything.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
So we just kind of want in the gaming industry.
This is what's affecting all of those gamers. And like
I had said last week, so it affects. It affects
the price of the coffee too. Like I mean, I'll
use you don't already knows like brand names like Dunkin

(38:27):
don'ts Okay, they may not know us. But in the
store I was looking at yesterday, I was walking down
the aisle because we have our online coffee shop up,
looking like that bag went from eight ninety nine to
seventeen bucks. Well, why they important? But the terrace on
coffee have gone up a little bit, but not much.
It's pretty much ten percent across the board. So to

(38:50):
two to four dollars a bag is what things should
go up, maybe five, but they shouldn't be going to
have ten dollars a bag, I mean eight.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
So I think some things are just gonna get added to.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I know on our show Gamers with coffee Dot Shop,
which you should check out, man if you haven't seen it,
but our our coffees have gone up on some of them,
particular ones depending on the country of origin and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
What did you do there?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
It is?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh, it just.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
That way people can click on it or scan it
and go to coffee shop.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
So in the short term, you guys, it's just gonna
get pricey. But it's not the end of everything. I mean,
like I said a hundred times, I see new people
jump in here. If you look at what Apple did.
Apple just said, we're going to go to another country
where we can get it just as cheap, and.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's what they did.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
So it doesn't it just doesn't benefit that the rest
of it, again ongoing for centuries. Tariffs have been there
since the Roman days. Every country has them, every every country.
So that's how commerce works. You just got these two.

(40:14):
We got to wait to see what they do. In
the meantime, I'm just gonna get and go to work
tomorrow because things have been getting expensive over the last
few years. Anyways, before all this started, before this one
main topic started, so that.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Would be kind of what it is. So I was
gonna ask you, guys, I had a.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Couple of questions audience participation, right, So here's my question
all of you. If you each answer, that'd be awesome.
But are you gonna stop buying anything in the short
term because the high prices?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And are you kind of just preparing for a little
short term short term and politics and supply.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You know, look at what happened with COVID in a
stupid toilet paper thing. It took like five six months
to sort it out. So well, you guys are coming
that or I'll just tell you what me and Ashley
have talked about. So in the meantime, we're just gonna
get a little extra as we can, you know, like

(41:22):
we're not we're not going overboard and it's not like,
you know, I can't live without whatever, So things some
things that are coming in are not going to be
affected so much as others. But I will tell you this,
if you're going to get something like for us, we

(41:43):
do a lot of recording, so probably over resident and
paints and everything else. I need storage. Guess where all
that storage is made? SD cards, you know, external terror
hard drives and all that. So if I was to

(42:03):
do anything, I would just simply get some more storage. Well,
it's still at the regular price, because once the surplus
is run out in the warehouses go down, that's when
the price gougeing is going to go into fact. You're
just gonna pay more than even what the tariffs are
because that's what a lot of them do in Telemachus.

(42:24):
That's a good that's a good point each time. It's
you know, you have to be willing to buy it.
Now there are some people, some of your gamers. You've
got the money to do it, then do it.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
That's great. We love this hobby.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
And for those of you who are just not listening,
this is a non political discussion of the tariffs on
how it affects US gaming, video gaming, tabletop gaming, things
like that. That's all we're doing is chit chatting. Nobody's
affiliated with anybody. We hate that kind of stuff. We're
just here talking about how it works on US. So yeah,

(42:58):
well there you go, Telemachus. So most of the electronics.
One of the people I was watching just a couple
of days ago, she stated anyways that she would worked
in imports. She's fly out said, I have nothing to sell.
There's no links. I'm not giving you links to anything.

(43:18):
I'm just telling you I work at an import company
here in the States. And here's what you better remember.
There are things that we don't make, like the SD
cards for your cameras and stuff. There are external hard drives.
There are keyboards and mouses we don't make. So if
you were to do anything, she said, you may want
to get an extra.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Keyboard, stick it around so that you have one of yours.
Goes out.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Simple things like that, not necessarily spending tons of money.
But you guys know how business and politics works all
over the world. If they resolve this thing tomorrow, great,
But if it takes two or three months, then it's
going to be six eight months.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
After that before it comes back down, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
So it's it's got to be something that should just
be looked at. So again, I don't encourage anyone to
go do any kind of mister t extra hard that's funny, Charles,

(44:31):
many warm ups, says the way of the game you
have more likely we all have games sitting in the
closet that have yet to be played. Yes, So the
upside is you guys, well, we've all talked about it
being like a fantastic time in the miniature tabletop realm. Right,
just gives you more time to finish your projects. Nobody

(44:53):
everybody talks about their pile of shame.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I always talked.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
About it being my pile of happiness because on a
day I got something I could go pick up and paint.
But whatever you would like to call it, you're going
to have time to do that. Hello, miniature's paint brush.
How are you, sir? We are having a non political,
non country whatever. We're just talking about the tariffs in
general and how they'll affect us and things that I've

(45:21):
looked up specifically in the last two days that are
current and just I just wanted to let you guys
know this is by.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
No means anything.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
If you're mongering, it's just entertainment, you know, We're just
this is how it's gonna affect us. So I was
asking you, guys, what's your what's your long term goal.
I mean, for me, the only thing I'm actually considering
right now is I mean, I got enough paints I got.
I'm not worried about the miniatures too much or the
printing stuff, but I do want to get a couple

(45:54):
of memory cards. And because I do a show regularly,
I'll probably go by a keyboard.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Well, I can still get him for twenty bucks, just.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
To have and as.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
A backup, you know, so things like that, and again
if it if it takes several months iron out, you know,
you guys are right. We got games that we don't play,
all of us do. We got models we haven't built yet.
We got things we can do.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
And now all of us have a closet full of
games like I.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Like, how many what money? Many warm out? Word of that?
So many warmout?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
You missed a lot of the stuff I talked about earlier,
but I see quite a bit more people online.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
It's actually getting up there. Yeah, and many warm up.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
That dude's been alive for a couple of thousand years now,
started with Rome. He literally is multi dimensional because he
lives in every country, because every country doesn't know how
good I've got my coffee and my food for Farmers
copy bug that April seventy. This is pretty pretty badass.
So true, not all have closets, and you know many

(47:16):
warm up. You know there's gonna be people taking advantage.
So let's just say you're say the extra charges twenty dours,
they're gonna add thirty and say, oh that's terriffs. They're
just I mean, the price scouging is gonna happen. Antres's paintbrush.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Well, you're not the only ones, sir.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I mean there's under the printer there games books under
the nott who stuck that crazy bann are there? Those
are all games? Games blow games on the other shelf,
games across top. We we got things to play, work harder. Yeah,

(47:59):
I don't know till i'm because you better hope they
don't tear offf closets to us hobbyists. That'd be expensive.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Huh. So yeah, you know there's there's just some things.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Like I said, I think, I think this week, when
I get paid, I'll go ahead just go pick up
an extra keyboard. So I if this one fails, well
then I have one. But I'm not really I'm not
one to buy into all the rhetoric. And I look
at things like, hey, h manufacturers are moving to other
places to avoid this, and they're simply manuf like Apple did.

(48:33):
So you know again for those of you joining on
seeing my numbers are changing again, so they're it's uh,
they're just I think it'll be down the road. I
don't think it's what some of these channels I've seen
a lot of fear, and I'm like, man, it doesn't
mean like one of them was the end of tabletop game.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
It's not the end. You own a business, You're just
going to go.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
To another place where they're going to manufacture your products
for what you could get so you can turn around
and sell them to your customers for what they're used
to so you can keep the profits you're used to getting,
because that's what you know, you need to live to
live on, to keep you know, on operation. So already
you've got you've got multiple companies looking elsewhere, and that's

(49:20):
gonna be good for those local areas where they moved to. Also,
it's just gonna bolster their economy. So dig a hole,
Burier Games anywhere much says, No, that'll ruin a man,
blow wies Wolf Glad you could jump in here or

(49:41):
too But anyway, as a mattress paintbrush, I just kind
of touched on tariffs and how it affects our gaming
at general as gamers, and Greg even went out of
his way to do a lot of research to get
some legitimate stuff, and it really just it just boils
down to pretty simple stuff. The neighbor's yard is gonna suffer,

(50:11):
yepe lastly coming back. So yeah, you guys, I would
have I will. I don't think it's in the gaming.
Like I said, the upside is your downloadable content is
not gonna be affected. Actually here has downloadable content and uh.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
You know a lot of downloadable contact thinks. So yeah,
the only thing is Ice Woolf. She may not be
able to print all those miniatures. Tell them when do
you fit on my priner?

Speaker 1 (50:45):
So anyways, you guys, thanks for letting me do that
little presentation and whatnot. And hopefully to those who are
listening on the podcast, that helps you guys too, because
actually we do have quite a bit uh people that
listen to the podcasts on other channels like Podbean and

(51:05):
Audible and stuff like that. So for that, you guys,
hopefully it takes some of the Oh, now you're mocking me, Ashley,
thank you to them. I guess now, I just wanted
to get some facts together. Man.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I've I've seen some other.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Channels in our hobby and I'm like, you guys, that's
not how terrorits work.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Number one, this isn't something too or you know. Number two,
it's not something new.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
And now they're not mentioning the fact that people are
rerouting their businesses and just doing it differently.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Oh so many more.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Mu said, looking back there, you were curious how indie
tabletop game designers.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Are going to do on drive through REPG at working.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Well, they're selling They're mostly look at when you go there,
they're mostly selling us TL files. They also have the
one that drive through URPG. That's part of the one
page rules, right, isn't it? I think because that's what
we get emails from them. So either way, they have
their Patreon and if you look, they have a lot

(52:16):
of members I don't think they're gonna be hurt at all,
because I'm not gonna stop my Patreon membership. I've gotten
a lot of uh, you know, nice figures for the
one page rules and stuff. I don't really think independent
game designers are gonna really suffer. I mean, they'll just
have to look for another source. It's just by default

(52:36):
people will go, I'm going to go to China by default,
or I'm gonna go to India for this like clothing
and stuff. So by default, they're just gonna have to
change where they go by default and just start looking
because you can't can't keep all your eggs in one basket.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
See this is you look on the.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Media and the media they're all it takes two and
it's not a one one country one thing.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
It's both of them. It's not one. They're both equally.
They're both both equally duking it out.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And then you got some third party countries too that
were generally once we know, but they're getting involved.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
To drive through. Our drive through is charging regardless.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna be I think they're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Okay, So let me guess.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I think a lot of those independent businesses and they
have PDF, so really what they're not losing, you know
what I mean? Manageter paint Brush says, I'm gonna have
to pick up as printer before the tariffs ship. Until then,
I'll need printer. I have the upgraded screw for the
new Knight. Do you need someone to print that for?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Were you? Sir?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
PDFs many Warmont has become really good at that. It's
funny the PDFs as long as they're digital is okay.
I mean, if you're gonna go to printum now to
depend where those ink cartridges are made, right or you know,
so that's that's kind of something too. But otherwise PDFs

(54:25):
you can take them in like many Warmont does. It
just goes the office Max or Staples or one of
those if you haven't turned into books. So PDFs are
are a nice in that regard. I would not recommend
trying to do a PDF on Warhammer. It took more

(54:45):
money almost in ink and paper than it did for.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Me to just buy the car. Go by the rules.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
So oh you had to log in a few times
to get times that download the file.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
There's a miniature paper ship in the UK.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah, shipping would be shipping would be the problem would
be the shipping now it should have nothing to do
with tariffs, just general shipping.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Anytime I've sent something that way, it's or Canada.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, both are that's that seems like it's worse, Like
I understand it being high getting from here out that way,
but not not to the country that sits on our border.
It's crazy how much it costs me to send something
to anybody there.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Stupid. It was fifty four dollars.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
I think it costs like twenty seven or twenty eight
bucks to ship all those models back to Kaiser that
I painted for him.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
But that was then.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah, that was a couple of years ago, a few
years ago. Oh he's in Maryland, Okay, so it probably
should have been too bad.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Oh you're in the US.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Hey, then if we have enough resin, we'll just print
them to you, put you a couple of things and free.
You don't got paid just I don't know whatever the
cost is to ship it.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
If you got a model or.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Something, let me know, because I'm gonna try and pick
up on Tuesday some more resin Tuesday. Wednesday, it's a night.
You just gonna have to be printed pieces. How big
is it?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
I have no idea how big it's I mean, if
they're like twenty eight millimeter, yeah, we would have a problem.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
There's enough people here in this lobby that could probably
help you out to serve between all of us. I
would just need to know how big it is. It'll
fit or how how we're gonna have to print pieces.
I don't know you were at Maryland though, that's cool.
For some reason, I thought you were overseas. That's my

(57:06):
I apologize to that, but.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
You know, like it's a.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
It's just I sprew. That's gonna be the problem because
there's so many holes. I mean, used to just STL
files where they're the actual model. I mean it's not
it's possible to still do it.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Almost anything is possible.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
But if you can pick up a resume printer, there's
there's still okay. Now it's gonna be when when the
stuff kind of runs through, and then at some point
it'll start getting tariffs on it, and then i'd watch
out for anybody selling it on eBay and stuff like

(57:57):
that probably can go through the roof.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Oh you leaving, John, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
For coming by, John. Glad to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I hope you have a good rest today. And evening.
There you go manager with paintbrush, nice wolves asking you
what kind of night forty K good question for all

(58:26):
this look at that.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
You did good. Beg you did good.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
I feel like I tried.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
So anyways, you guys, Oh yeah, we'll have a good anniversary.
It's actually today today is our anniversary. So tonight we're
just gonna grill some hamburgers.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Man, Okay, so out camp and we took a game
with us and he got his but what yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I lost.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
So we recorded that and actually one of the other things,
I've already got it all downloaded and ready to put together.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
So that'll be one thing I'm doing after the show.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
I don't think my printer is big enough for that.
There some big if we can print in the sections,
but you'd have to print Oh but yeah, I would.
You have to try to glue those together.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Keegan's printer might do it because it's a very high quality.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
Yeah, it's filament. Hegan might be able to. But yeah,
we can find out. Yeah, I swollf they're big. We
don't have any but seeing they're pretty tall.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
You're trying to think of the tallest thing I've printed
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I don't know, because you've got quite a bit of
stuff your trend. I'm trying to think, but those are
those are pretty big. Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
He was printed in one piece cockeye this one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
No, his legs weren't the legs separate. He printed one
piece it was the firearm. The firearm was the only
thing saw that printed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
One piece there other than his other than his uh
that was rockets on top. This whole thing was just
one piece.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
That's as big as I can print, and that was
pushing it. I had a shrink down the main supports.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah it's pretty heavy though too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Yeah, and he's hollowed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Well, yeah, you don't want that solid break.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
So those I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I could probably that six inches at most.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, we don't have a huge jars. Is the any cubic?

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I can't remember the model Mono.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Model two, So it's not a big giant printer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
But it does really high detail work, which I like,
and its well for now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
It's cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeah, at least the one that works for that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
One might pick up a couple of bottles here just
to write things out, but I'm actually.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
More don't give me a couple of bottles because I
have all that uh train that Ice Wolfs sent us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
It's a new helmet, a gun, and a generator. The gun, not.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
The whole night.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Okay, I mean you're more than welcome to say if
it's st L S or PDF, I should be able
to see if they fit, you can send it over
to our gamers will Coffee Dot at Gmail and I
can try.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
If you want to send it over, do that and
we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Send the pieces over and we can see if it'll
fit in the slicer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Before we even end our little video here. I mean,
that's the only way I'm gonna be for sure. The helmet,
I don't know, maybe depending on how big the head is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
But yeah, we can take a look for you, sir.
Let's see as well and try and welcome. Glad that
you just try. You just got here and try. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
We were discussing earlier, uh, non politically sir or ma'am,
and it's just about how the terrorist affect all of
us gaming and kind of what's happening. So h and
now we're talking about getting some prints done. One of
the things we're going to do is try to pick
up some more resid here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
But we're glad that you joined. Yeah, I'm a sure
paint brush.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Just I will try to put them in my slicer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
And try.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Where are you located at We're in Iowa in the
United States. Mh, Well, it doesn't hurt to try, all right, right,
you guys may as well see if it will fit
and if it can be printed it's printed, and if not,
oh well then we could we can try. But it's

(01:04:12):
I think back to what we were talking about there too,
like one page rules, I mean drive to repg that
the fact that they're all established on Patreon and have
a substantial base and they're basically selling there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
You know, they're STLs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I don't think any of that's going to affect them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I don't think it will affect them at all. Uh,
and try what's way off?

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
It's three in the morning for him? Oh wow, UK area.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Here, three in the morning for you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Huh, that sounds about right. It would be some kind
somewhere in the UK.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Well, you'd have to be over overseas somewhere. So where
at We're glad you're here. We're just curious where you're
coming from. Three in the morning it would be wow,
that's a huge time difference. So it's five o six
pm for us. Here you go mat your paint brush.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Uh there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Maybe India?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Oh wow? Nice?

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Okay, it wasn't too far off.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
They didn't send it. It won't let you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
It did send it over on the actual chat. I
know there's been a couple of them that I've typed
out that hasn't shown up on the actual in there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Yeah, I swol if it's eleven o'clock for you, well,
we're glad you joined us from India there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Hopefully everything is going good for you too. We are
just I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Don't know, trying to be do gaming and being a
hobby at sometimes just you know, like now, situations are
just going to get a little bit annoying, I think. Okay,
So the email addresses gamers with Coffee at Gmail, all

(01:06:56):
run together, Gamers with Coffee at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
It's not letting you put it up because it's a link.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Well let me send those two. But it's just a Gmail.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
It won't it won't let it go through all the
way because she's I wonder if let me do it,
because you're.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
The host you should be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I won't let what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
See I don't understand. It's showing up on my head
because I'm up on my computer as.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Well, so it won't go through though YouTube doesn't want
to let it go through.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
That popped up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Well, we're glad you come by.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
You get some sleep, and thank you for taking the
time to come in and say, Hi, what dick, you're

(01:08:18):
gonna take off?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Many warm up? All right, have a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Good night, Brian. Our weather jays has been more hot.
I think seventy nine as of right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah, that's a little muggy though, how bad uh huh oh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Wow, it's gonna be sixty seven Friday. Man, that's the high.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Alright, many warm up. We will talk to you later.
Our video is coming out tomorrow. You'll see we gamed
in the cabin. We even did that. Have a good night, Brian.
Yeh see, Brian, today is a businy, busy day for
everybody too, so we're just glad everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Yeah, we weren't sure if we were gonna go and
try to figure out to do something or if we
were gonna just say screwed and get on here, which
we did. Ended up coming and visiting with you guys. Yeah,
went out to get more by tea. I went check

(01:09:35):
my our sons. I am at home yet to get
I got more drink.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Nice speaking at tea, Kagan, You're gonna listen at some
point your coffees.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
We'll be there at your house tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
But well, I actually I think they are all up
at his mom's right now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
I think so he he went out of town up
to his mom's. He went out of town and we
just we got back into We just got back. So
we will, like I said earlier, we'll go ahead and
get that video up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Thanks John, Thank you John. I'm glad you guys stop by.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
It's always it's always nice to just sit and chat
with others in the hobby too. And uh, it's just
like I said at the end of the show, it
makes makes a great ending to the day, in a
great beginning of my week, because otherwise, man, it just
gets to be drudgery. Man tired of none stop working
just to scrape by, you know. So if I was rich,

(01:10:43):
it'd be all right.

Speaker 7 (01:10:44):
But but that that's uh, it's nice to see everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Pardon me, my brain's a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
It's been a course flash still huh. For the next
two days we have no money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Of course, who was what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Factory?

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Yeah, so that they got sales over there too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
When you're a patreot, remember at that when you join
that one page rules. We they have a base that
would make everybody a little jealous. Pretty big base of
monthly subscribers. So I think the gaming industry of the hobby, well,
we'll be okay as long as we don't fall into

(01:11:31):
the whole worry too much trap, because it'll it'll it
has to work itself out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
One way or another, and it already is a multiple levels.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
So I mean, I got a sd SD card full
of just STL files.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Well, that'd be the one thing we should get just
for temporary, Like I said, the keyboard and uh some
resident But I gotta worry about too much ouse.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
It's got plenty of games to play, plenty of things.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
To do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Hobby wise. Like today I get off of here, I'm
gonna make some dinner. Then I'm gonna edit that. I
already got the video off of our camera we recorded
it with and on the hard are on the desktop
here for me to edit, so that'll be out tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Cool your paint brush, all right, if you're gonna look
out and how for you sir? And see.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
So I'm curious to see how big it is. Do
do That'll want to take her a couple of minutes
to figure it out. The nice thing is the resume
printers just do really good on the detail, really good
and glad I got mine when I did, But I

(01:12:59):
was pretty fortunate, man, I got tolmtos and a few others.
I got that with the bonus that I got literally
gone like seven to ten dollars for the part of
it I had to come up with otherwise he use
my work bonus for it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
It was it's paid off, and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Once we got figured out how to use it to
the best of our ability, then.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
It didn't work better. Oh, there you go. It's loading
up now, loading what you're putting in there?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Now? The Oh the gunle fit, that's the only part
of the gun.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Well, the outtle fit. It's in the sections, right, I
have no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Idea you'd have to turn down of that'll fit?

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yeah, there you go. Who that is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
A shield look alike?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Well, so far manage the paint brush the first two
things she pulled out fits in there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Never had a chance to get a night for any
of it though.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Those two boxed up there. That's all war Ammer models.
That's more of my marines up there. Of course, the
kill team stuff, because I really enjoyed Kill Team. I
actually like it more than standard war Ammer fight just

(01:14:43):
because you know, it's it's faster, paced.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
And it's it's more turn based.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I'm downloading last.

Speaker 8 (01:14:56):
Okay, good to what you can do check and see,
chick and see.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
But anyways, you guys m.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Meandering Mike, Hello, sir, been a while since you mended over.
We're glad to see you. Hopefully your day is going
good and you had a good day. We were chit
chatting earlier, sir about well, no politics, of course, but
we were just chit chatting about the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yeah, Greg did some research.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
You missed all that and uh, okay, man's your paintbrush.
She said, it all fit. So all those pieces fit.
I gotta order some more resident on Tuesday. So like, literally,
if you just wanted to reimburse us for postage or something,

(01:15:58):
well I don't see why we couldn't help you. So, Mike,
the the stuff I was talking about was how the
teriffs affect our gaming hobby, like tabletop games. Help may
affect that and video games because a lot of the
people we talked to to are video games, Xbox PS five,

(01:16:21):
you know how it's gonna affect three D printing. So
we actually covered quite a bit and I think we'll
all be all right if we just kind of take
a breath. We got all of us in this hobby,
got lots to do. And I know I'm repeating myself,
but Mike didn't hear it. So a lot of these

(01:16:42):
manufacturers they're already looking for other places, Like you heard Apple.
They're not gonna sit by and lose money, you know,
they're just gonna work around it all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
A section.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
You got a section of fence down. Instead of replaced it,
you're gonna put up a temper a private fence. Who
are you gonna run like wires to it and electrify it.
That'll give you privacy. Mic people won't come up to
the fence, by the way, What kind of fence is it.
It's like a wooden fence, chain link fence, PBC fence. Well,

(01:17:27):
I wouldn't know the amount of shipping until we go
to ship at their an interest paintbrush. But she says
it will fit. So let's see what we could do
for you and help you out. And even then if
it's not much, it don't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
I wouldn't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
I'll say it's in the US. It shouldn't be what
maybe ten or fifteen at the most. Yeah, depending on
how much it weighs because some of these pieces are
nice and tiny. There's a couple of big pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Well, I stay fit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
So yeah, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Getting them in the slicer, so it'll it'll get it
ready for a print.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Well, the first piece is six hours and sixteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
She said. The small piece is six hours.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
One of those gun looking things.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Oh, come on, Mike, no electricity, s man. That just
takes all the fun out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Wow. Fifteen foot section. How did how to go down?

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Did you have a storm? If you did, or you
guys okay, or I mean fences generally don't go down
by themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
That would be funny, especially though if you had a
nosy neighbor, wouldn't be leaning on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Your fence too much, would they? Jeez, thankfully on that.
And we've been good. We haven't had no bad weather
in the last two weeks or so, but we sure
missed some a heck of a bad storm a week

(01:19:14):
before it hit a lot of the other states. So
very very very fortunate. And I think that's a good thing.
Good God, Charles, that's a little graphic. But maybe you

(01:19:38):
can stand out there and some get yourself do like
some cause play there Charles, dress up and hold a
spear like you're a pikemin or something people would be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Your offenses just fall over because they're cursed.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
H partially rawd in section that you were gonna get
around to fix it, and the wind took.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
It out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Using like, uh, four by four posts, Mike, like the
green treated four by four for your supports and two
by fours in between. Yeah, Charles, I was thinking that
just just like electrical wire that work. But but Mike

(01:20:36):
doesn't want to do that, So that's okay. Sometimes I'm
tempted to do that. I have a small fenced area. Yeah,
just tell him you're doing you're researching his historical gaming, Mike,
and you were just building life size models so that

(01:20:57):
you could visually appreciate what was happening.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
I guess you can figure.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Something that's going to be hard to ship, why because
of all these little wires or hoses. I try to
find bubble wrapp for that one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
We'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
So in the box, I put these in. What would
you a glitter bomb?

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
No, that wouldn't be good. Mm hmm. Open the box.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Surprise your parts are here, glittering confetti. You would never
get it out of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Anything, No, Charles, interesting set of rules. Well hopefully you
can get it patched up there, Mike mean one thing

(01:22:02):
at a time, right, sir, One thing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
At a time.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
And brom, what if I could put the two guns on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
A worn.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Dogs on leashes? Would it be more scarier if they
weren't on leashes?

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
And maybe cut the time back?

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Yeah, it looks like it's two pieces for the guns,
mantrare paint brushes. He has a six year old Dodars
like having a glitter bomb. Yes, yes they are. Oh, hey,
I'm try.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
You're back. Yes, we do three D printing right here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
If you look at the screen, see roughly with my
fingers point and that's our any cubic printer there, that's
a wash of cure station.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
And I have a resident in our other round.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Show a mash hold on a second and try we'll
show you this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
You have to turn it off.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I know I have to do it. Hey, now, don't
get snippy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Jeez, you're looking at me like what you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Oh it's my mind. Okay, showing the screen ready off screen? Yesh,

(01:23:42):
he wants to see your pred managers credit, that's what
you're ready?

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Okay, Hold on and try. We'll show you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
So that's uh, that's something that you printed up for.
That's for one page rule, one page rule. Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Here's a Warhammer figure that I printed. I've actually painted
this one. That's a tyran In screamer killer. Uh you.

Speaker 9 (01:24:20):
Yeah, one page rules, one page rules.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
We do not make custom models and try. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Generally we purchased the STL files online. Uh, and we
have had a lot of them given to us too.
So like that particular robot little.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Rats right here are all three D printed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Those are one page rules right there, her rats. That
robot looking thing was for one page rules. Hey, weird
World War two?

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Uh, this was from our filament. It's the dice tower.
It was all great. So I pinted that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
We do both and try resident and filament Weird World
War two?

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Brian, I am in.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
The process of Yes, there's holes on top because it
prints this way so it's straight. Once I'm done, I'll
put some toughs of grass or something on it. It
should cover them up.

Speaker 9 (01:25:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
And Troy says, do you sell these No, these are
just ones we print for our gaming. Most of the
things that you buy have a like a stipulation where
you can't sell it anyways, so we don't sell them.
We just like one page rules. Every month they release

(01:26:04):
their STLs. If you're like on their Patreon, which we are,
then it's we've got way more in our money's with them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
I mean I got an entire army.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
I have a lot of files.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
So there's just a lot of models on her desk there,
and that's not even what you can see.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I owe you're back to doing your place.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Yeah, because I can cut six hours, six and a
half hours off bike binding to them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
So anyways, and try that's just some of them. We
got quite a bit. I got models that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Are just nothing but one page rules. So if you
look up those the Human Defense Force, those we are bad.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
I could have done for five to three uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Brian from where World War two says you could just
flip the model on the plates here dran holes around
the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
I don't like how with our printer it leaves the
little trying to scrape them off. It sucks. So I
don't have a problem with them being on top because
all go and hals some kind of flocking on it
that will go and cover the holes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Don't matter. You got the resin it'll fill out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Yeah, and I got a little bit of resin that
I can fill it with.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
That's just on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Generally, I mean, all the models we do, we try
to make them hollow so they're not those are tearn
up all the resent especially as Yeah, she moves it
on the plate there, she kind of positions it where
she needs it. So your resin. A couple of things

(01:28:04):
back there, weird World War two. You said thousand grads
for forty dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Okay, hold on, he sent me six attachments. I only
got five. Where's the sixth? Just a moment, I'm gonna
check on something. Oh okay, that's what was the sixth one? Okay,

(01:28:31):
it just brought up the same thing. All right, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
So our standard residin looks like it went up two
dollars two dollars a night, Yeah, three bucks three So
for a leader it's nineteen bucks instead of sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
So all right, those are.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Ready to print. We just got way until we get
the money to get it printed, and then I will
email you for your address and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
So when we get them all done, oh minus your
pampush all right, If you heard that, sir, she'll start
working on those.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
And try. Yeah, go back to bed, get some sleep. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
We appreciate you coming by, but if it's three after
three in the morning, there get some rest before you
have to get up. And every Sunday we're on Sunday
at four pm Central.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
So Brian with our printer, if you try to hollow it,
it will just keep filling. It doesn't matter what direction
it is, it will fill. So that's the problem when
trying to do a hollow print is if you don't
have those poor it will keep resdon in there. And

(01:30:04):
I did that once before I knew when I first
started doing it, Keegan had one and there's something resident
in there. It actually cracked the whole bottom and made
it expand and just ruined the whole print I did
for it and destroyed a lot of things of pits.

(01:30:26):
So luckily Keegan wasn't mad. What is zella or zelbe.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Now, manature paintbrush? We don't have that, but don't don't
worry about right now. At this point, man, we'll get
We'll just get it printed up and then we'll find
out what the shipping is. Otherwise she can start started
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
You might have enough to start on the one piece.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
Yeah, I could at least start up with one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Yeah, sugar, sugar, get one started for like, I think
the smallest one is at least six.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Hours, seven hours?

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
What was the six hours.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
By the two tall like gun pieces in the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
One So there you go. At least you'll have them
then during the week. I mean at least our resident
only went up three bucks. So it's instead of sixteen,
you know, fifteen ninety eight, sixteen dollars, it's it's nineteen
dollars for a ball, so that ain't bad. No, he says,

(01:31:35):
to rotate the model, So I'll let you read that
generally all the ones she came oh, came out really well.
I think that's the only ones. One of the ones
did you put a train on? Oh, like your big
guy for the one page rules that dude, I don't

(01:31:58):
remember where you put the train, but wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Yeah, there's like two or three of them on his belly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Well, thanks for the tips there, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
We'll try to figure it out. Sometimes it's just a
matter of do it enough.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
But after.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
After a year and a half, two years and now
almost two years of printing on it, it's working out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
It's a good printer man, and if you have have money,
to grab one before they go up, because for the
short term it's all gonna it's all gonna go up. Yeah,
I think mister, we're in World War two, sir, uh,
such a misloried talking about earlier. Someone's just going to

(01:32:45):
be my deak, just gonna be price catching. And he says,
resident trapped in the modeble pop. So there's no reson
in it. She puts the drain.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Holes with the whepholes in some of those, and just
the isn't in there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
It's literally empty. Works out pretty good. Besides, you don't
want to well you know that. So I'm just saying
in general, nobody really wants the print of solid resin, but.

Speaker 6 (01:33:23):
Do do.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Everyone needs to get one. Yeah, if you can get
a resume printer there, they're just way more fun. All right,

(01:33:52):
Eventually everybody will where will work too, because that was
one of the things a lot of people were.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
I was seeing, you know, like this is the end
of gaming and all this stuff. It's it's not really
the end of gaming. It's just gonna be a delay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
But again, companies are already side stepping a lot of
this stuff and just going somewhere else to get their
things done cheaper so.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
They can they could continue their business. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
The drain holes are must if you're hollowing out, Absolutely,
it has to be.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
It has to have a way forward to drain.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
I think that court went all right. You think it did, yeah,
because I put it in the other court. No problems.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Yeah, win. You use it all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Yeah, so generally on those USB ports you take the
back of it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Sometimes it needs to be resordered.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Well, you guys, we're gonna go ahead and end it
here so we can get some dinner and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Finish off our anniversary. There.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Moved hold on a second weird World War two says
he learned the hard way hollowing out some armored cars.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
How thick are you making the walls?

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
No, he said, a year later they popped. Oh oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Yeah, we haven't had any models pop on us at all.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Most of them are.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
But to be honest with you, Brian, most of ours
are around the twenty eight thirty two millimeter range, so there's.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Just no need to haul those out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
And on the big one so far, never never had
a problem, thankfully. Tell mel we said, hi, though, Sir
and meandering Mike, have a good evening, sort of good
luck with your fence. We're gonna go ahead and end
this and there we go, miniature paintbrush. I think you

(01:35:57):
can find me on Facebook. You could ass it for
me if.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
I think I'm still there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
They haven't kicked me off of Facebook yet, but then again,
I don't do anything. It warn't that pretty, just hanging around.
But thank you everybody for showing up. We appreciate it.
And those of you on the podcast listening to this later,
thank you for all your support too. And until next week,
you guys, just just enjoy life. It'll be okay. Ice Wolf,

(01:36:26):
thank you for those files again, Sir, and Weird World
War two. Stay weird, otherwise we won't recognize you. So
you guys all have a good day.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Thank you. We will see you next week. Oh our
little video

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Breakfast Club

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}2025 gamers Therapy EP 16 Tariffs and gaming

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Breakfast Club

All Episodes

2025 gamers Therapy EP 16 Tariffs and gaming

Stuff You Should Know