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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Come into you live from the cornfields of Iowa. Welcome
to another Sunday show of Gamers Therapy. Maybe slightly a
little bit caffeinated today, just a little bit. You don't
don't know really, but hey, it's a good day so far. Anyways,

(00:29):
you guys, we're glad y'all made it through the week
and everyone's share and to our podcast listeners again, thank
you very much for listening on the podcast. You're more
and welcome to join us here live every Sunday at
four pm on our YouTube channel. It goes to our
Facebook group twitch on our Facebook page.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm not going through check on it real quick.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hold on, did you do a description?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh no, life video's going on here? It says live.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I understand that. Oh there goes. I have no idea.
What the hell?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yep, that's that's okay, not a problem. Anyways. There's Charles.
Hello Charles. The page it always goes to the page.
It should be going to the group. You want to check.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Hey, Charles, how are you sir? Hopefully everything is going good.
It is another day in paradise. I guess, as you
could say, maybe it should.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Be that's the page.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's the page okay, Ashley, then you are the one
that set that up this time.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
So yep, I said the group. Yep, I think you
picked the wrong one there boom bear, Well damn, now
it's going twice.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So yeah, that's okay. See you have right here look
the page.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, but up in the right when I was clicking
on it, said the group.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
They should, so you'll have to share the linked Then
it already goes to the group to begin with.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, I mean the page to begin don't you love it?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Technology?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
No, No, it's no, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
At least I got it going up.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
It's all good, So hopefully you're doing good out.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
There, Charles.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I noticed then that the sales are starting to come on.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I don't know about you guys, but I checked
my mail, uh today, I checked it in like two
or three days, and I guess on the fourteenth miniature
market out of sale, so that whatever you bought was
a dollar ninety nine shipping.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I am glad that we didn't have the money.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Then, oh no you don't. Yeah, what is that that
you dropped.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
My phone on my keyboard?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
So yeah, there's some there's some good sales starting to
uh stack up. I notice. So we're going out, you're
gonna have to keep an eye on that. And uh,
of course I don't know. Ashley turned your phone down.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And I know I'm getting there.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, it's okay. Hey Telemachus, how are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, well you know it's going through the phone now,
don't sure? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I know that?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Did you do? Do?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Try to share it to everything?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Well, you're fine, everyone, You're good. You shouldn't have to
share it too many somochas. Have you seen any good sales?
We were just chit chatting with Charles and uh.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Militure market out buy whatever you want for a dollar
ninety nine shipping sale, which I see it. I looked
like it was the fourteenth.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I would have been spending money money.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Mon No, no, it doesn't. It doesn't work that way
with me. There is no money, money, money, there's no
you know. So it's good though, So look at some
of the sales coming up and try to figure out
where we can.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Find something cool or whatever. I think.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I think what we should start doing is we we
have like oddball train. We need like some specific train
like winter for like winter combat that time.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
That's actually we don't even have a winter map.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I don't. Well, no, I have a winter map, but
not like a World War two one.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
So yeah, that's usually how our things are. It's like
we get notified like a dayly.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
It's like really, it's like a day late, a dollar short. Yeah,
it's all good. I'm using my ducky cup.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Your dunkey cup. Yeah, you can tell you've been hanging
out with your grandkids. Your dropped.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's okay. My IQ has to stay low. If it
gets too high, then then I'll start questioning things. This way,
I could just get through.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Life, right. I don't want to question stuff. So yeah,
it's my ducky cup. It's just from well, we went
to uh March March for victory. There was a vast
pro shops out there, so I stopped. I got this.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It was like twelve I think.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Those were ten ninety nine. Because we've got both of
our cups for less than twenty five.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
But you broke yours.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh bite me, I'm so mad about that.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Charles says he's got a ton of figures coming in
from NKG twenty eight twenty eight millimeters what type of figures.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Of extra twenty percent of all clearance items in major
market right now.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I didn't say for you to go back there.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I just holy cow, yeah that's daily deals.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh well, just one more game, it says, yeah, just
one more Charles loves deniability. That's right.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
If we haven't learned anything from the media, it's we
can always deny anything plausible deniability, right right.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I ready for that one game to come out that
developer that we had up on the show. Oh yeah,
Crimsons guys, or no, not Crimsons guys.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
When he when he gets it done, it'll be they're
like fine tuning that one right now.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
He said he's gonna send us a coffee.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So I'm looking forward to that one.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Ooh more orcs and some human and dwarfs you have.
You've got a pretty good selection going on, Charles. I
was talking to a gentleman earlier on TikTok. He has
a cool name, Plastic crack Addict or something like that,

(07:23):
and so we were chit chatting and he likes a
lot of the Infinity stuff. Now, I don't know much
about Infinity as the game. I mean, I've seen it
in stores, but uh, it's just it's kind of interesting.
You're like, it's just there's so many games and so
many things out there that pretty hard to I don't know,

(07:47):
narrow it down.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I mean we're trying to just keep up with everything
like that.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
What it says, I have CD CD O, it's like
O C D, but the letters are in alpha pedacle order,
like they should be.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Funny.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I like that one.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
But and Charles, you see some of the people's ORCS
collection out.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
There, Oh wow, they're quite massive. Yeah, Orcs, you're coming
back a lot.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well that and uh, the RPG.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Crowd seems to just be I mean it's always been there, right,
you guys, always always a pretty good falling, but it
seems of just a kind of like Dungeons and Dragons
really just boom took off again. That's kind of what
I see with the RPG area too, is there's a lot.
It's the last two years it's becoming more and more

(08:43):
and more I've noticed at least people talking about it
and getting into it.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's probably the route we're going to have to go, Babe.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
As the NBF, so, Charles says he's been working on
his three NBF buildings for his fifteen millimeters cowboys. So
where'd you get your MDF. Uh Western Buildings from Charles.
I don't mind MDF. I mean, I really don't. You
can just go together and primer, and I always primer
the inside of all of them because they you know.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
That way there's no moisture build up ever.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
But once you do that, you could do literally anything
and make the buildings look however you want. So, yeah,
pretty much MDF is pretty good. And was it TCP?
I want to say, I think that was it that
I was buying from for.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
A while they? I think so did the radar station?
Got the World War two radar station.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I built, remember, But I've got to be able to
it's up there where, up in the back behind your.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Grown up there and behind Jeff.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Well, how would I ever see it?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I was looking for it actually the other day.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
It because we didn't run out of room up on
our shelf, So it's up there.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, I just need to move out into another house
and keep this place from No, we need.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
To just buy another trailer and get the whole thing
other than the bathroom and move it so it's in
the basically a corner. The rest of the house is
all freaking.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Game and then you have a lot of gaming space.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, you set up two different tables, you have two
different games.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Going Noble Knight you got all right? That makes sense
some of those there is some good deals there. But
I know some things too are just too expensive. But
MDF there's nothing wrong with that. I in my opinion
of you.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Can do whatever you want with it. It'd be kind
of nice to have a laser cutter to do that.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, that might be something we need to look into.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well you don't, I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You could, I guess. But you can buy MDF ones
already pre cut too. Oh.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I found games for Maya. Yeah, games for two to
and up those Rainy ranch is.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
If it's two and up, I can do it. Good.
I'm good that way.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Come on, I want to see what it says Wonder
four players.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I was out of stock.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh and you're still at miniature market right, Well, yeah,
it's out of stock because a lot of us, a
lot of people in the hobby have kids, I mean,
you know, and getting the kids to have a good
time and play a game is.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Actually yeah, and we got actually really lucky with Maya.
She loves playing. I have the Fighter for my own miniatures.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, that's good though, choose future customer for the hobby
pretty much is what that boils down to. But yeah,
they're just we noticed that the sales.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Are starting and hold they say, right now. It's always
earlier and earlier and.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Earlier on it is they always try to beat the
now Black Fridays every day literally following November. Week of December.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You guys see the auto industry, it's it's see what
like Ford's doing and all that zero down, zero percent
interest and no payments for for three months, no credit.
I'm like, wow, it's kind of coming in on itself.

(12:20):
Charles says he decided to make December model months fifteen
millimeters tanks and six millimeter armor. Now, the six milimeter,
like I've said countless of times, I'd like to expand
on that, it's just one.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Of those got to get to it.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I got to get some literal terrain for that too,
which I really don't have anything.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Wait, what all the tanks we don't have?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Six million?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yes we do, Yes we do. And then we can
get the figures that you can paign. They're a little
teeny tiny, but you.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Can do it.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Where do you find the MDF in Norble Nights?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Go over and look for terrain.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's what I'm looking.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Dots games go over here to where it says more.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I did, but it's not in there.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's there somewhere. I've seen their stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Overnight merchandise.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, just look. Just type in the search bar terrain
and you can find it there.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
It'll be there somewhere normally has quite a bit of stuff.
I mean, it's just you kind of gotta shop it
because some of the stuff's pricey.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You I'm sorry, those are magic cards.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, but that's good to make December a month for
doing your stuff there.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I mean, it's a I've got I don't know what
to do with. And I almost got.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Too many battle tech tanks now, Quinn gave me that
whole barrier.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I don't even know. I think it's almost too much.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I get regrets. You already have a lot of trut
like seventy of them. Actually I don't think I do.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, so yeah, I have to figure out what to
do with all those also. But then there's just I
don't know, there's so much else that's available. It's it's
just crazy. Oh nothing. I'm just gonna say, if you're

(14:50):
searching for.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Stuff, she's still looking for that m d af Charles,
I am.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I will find that.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, it's a you could get NBA World War two terrain.
It's looking that's the easy part. But Western train generally
you could get Western train, which is all twenty eight
millimeters or thirty.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Two fifteen for like roaming or an empire, a ruined
temple ruin like yeah, temples or houses or whatever you
want to call it.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Ooh geez, that's expensive though, yeah for one building. Oh,
Charles says it's got the GHQ micro armor still in
the blister packs about last century making his ground train
for the sixes, Well, yeah, I guess we'd have to.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I was hoping to try to find like a map,
like a play map, maybe a neoprene one, or even
if I had to get a vinyl one.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
We get structured around six millimeters, but we could finding
the terrain is you can do. You can find six
milimeter train, I guess, but we gotta still come up
with rules.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
No, you could go to GHQ as rules and others
have rules for six millimeter. You could just modify it
if you wanted to. Some of it gets to be
too much. But when you're just playing with the armor
part it's pretty much going to be moved shoot, line
of sight damage.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
And how far it can shoot.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, how far you can reach. The buildings are a
c W, he says, but they're close enough. Oh well
that would that era would work too. As long as

(16:47):
it's got that theme to.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
It, then you're okay.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Plus, like I said, it's MDF, you can you can
modify that as you go. It's it's pretty nice stuff
to work with if.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
You if you just want to take the time to work.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
With it, because I mean, if you look look online,
look at how much MBF there is, especially for well,
you can get a whole ruined cities. Now you know
they've been doing that for quite some time, and at
seeing all these other places have people that are just
custom making stuff out of their house that they're selling

(17:22):
and granted some of it, most of it. I say,
I get a whole city that's like one hundred and
ten bucks. On the other hand, how many times have
you bought a box.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Set for a hundred bucks or more and this would
just be terrain.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
So it depends how you look at it, and you
don't have to you're gonna blame me it that light.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm not turning that on, I'll blind them more than you.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, still get to blind me. It's kind of one
of those things.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Do you buy a laser printer and buy the board
and do all the cutting, or do you just buy.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
It already done? Although I'm not knocking getting a laser
cutter for it. That would be kind of fun, but
you got to be able to vent it too. So
unless you want your house to smell like burning wood
in glue.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Uh, Tomka says blitz Krieg Commander is published by A.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Is that pen reckon a six milimeter? Is that A?
That would be a rule set? Then we'd have to check.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
It out because I just want to be able to
game with these six millimeters. I'm sick and tired of
them just sitting around. But it's also my fault because
I don't my work and everything else. I literally don't
have a.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Lot of time. And that's that's why you've been hearing
me so frustrated lately, guys, the last several weeks.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm just getting tired of working and paying bills are
not really going anywhere, and just.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Wanting to be able to do something, you know, game wise.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
So, speaking of which our or attempt this year to
do a gaming convention kind of fell through at the
last minute, but been working on a.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
On that. So we're still going to try and swing
that for next year, but I.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Don't know it would be a good month to do it,
and most of the time people are on a vacation
in August and well and June.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Well, school's got in June. Laser cutter.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
These are all lasers, but that's an engraver.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
An engraver is different than a cutter.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, I don't engraver, but higher mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
That one there is four grand.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Well, there's cheaper ones, yeah see, and c engraver that's
still an engraver ce and c wood router.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
That is not well, that's.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
For metalwwood, crillic MDF.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
It would cut it. It's just going to cut it
with the router blade, all right. So look through. They
sell the PDF on Drive Through the book their website.
They also have Cold War Commander and Future Commander.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Okay, well then see if you can look that side
up real quick. Okay, mhm, and thank you Plumachus. Yeah,
it's Blittz Creek Commander, but you could get it at drive.

(20:38):
I think it's Drive through OURPG. There's some other place. Man,
I ran across a few times and I really.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I don't. Yeah, that's it there, I think once you
let you through. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
What am I looking for?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
So you're looking for the rule set for well, just
type in Cold War commander. There you go by. There
is that six milimeters rules system? How much is it watermarks? Yeah,
damn it. We still haven't got our printer to work.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, for the PDF, it's cents.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
But Keegan has a printer. I can always go over
and just take our take over the I mean, how
many pages? Technically is it?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Ill?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is just stampling?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Well that way you can't print it that because you
don't want to print it that way.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Give a command that would be so crappy.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Too much for rules, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Just need something for measurements and distance and and if
tilnik Is suggested that it's going to be not too
difficult to.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Follow two millimeters right up to twenty eight millimeter including six, ten, twelve,
N scale, fifteen and twenty.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Oh wow, with no rebasion required. That work? Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
The rules come as one hundred and forty page a
four sized book, either a print on demand mono cone
book or a full color PDF your sixty pictures.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
You need to take it to play and go down
to office back.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Basically I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, but that might be that might cost you mm hmmm,
one hundred and forty pages.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
If they can do back to back, it'd be only
seventy pages then technically.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, but then you would need to bound.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, but that's only a couple of dollars. Ye, look
that one up. That wasn't too bad. Yeah, if you
get back to back, I think you'd be fine. It'd
be a seventy page you get the binding. You're looking
maybe what twenty bucks? It's code X.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know. All rule books seem to be.
If you're buy himprinted, they run twenty five.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And then it depends if you want color or not
sixty bucks.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I noticed. Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
And then here's that future war commander as well, same price, so.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
We would want because ours of World War two, the
blitz Crew.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Blitz create commander to same price.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
They have all three.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, thank you, telemachus.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Now that we know it's there, well, we'll have to
see if we can get that I am.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
My next step is getting a printer because I'm done.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
We've tried everything we could, and you guys have given
us all the help you could.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I think we're just gonna go to the Eco tank.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
A couple of you suggested using the tank printers the
Eco tank, so that I be the better deal. Because
when you do have pds or even even your income
taxes or whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
You're pretty eighty pages.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
You know, it just sucks to have spent money for.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, so we canceled our HP print stuff and they're
still charging us for the following month.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, they charged.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
They're charging one last payment.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
HP instat Inc. I signed up for because it was
like four five bucks a month. And basically what happens
is when you get long Inc. They would send you
an ink cartridge.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
And we didn't even get all the original ink cartridges done.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I think we got one, uh extra one sent to
us because it was right after income tax, so we
used up all that printer ink so we only got
one dose.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Charles said he just did a video on his old
rule sept for six millimeters.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Oh cool, nice.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
We will check that out, sir. And then telemochas says
newest Blitzkrieg is for not that it's the best, but
watch the videos for reviews first, So so you can
watch the videos and see which copy you want, Okay,
Charles says.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
See if n Cage he has a copy. Well, we're
just looking for a full.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Double Knights would be an already.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Ah, not necessarily a PDF.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, it would actually be a book already, which I mean,
depending on how much it might just be better to
go through Noble Knights if they have it.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, either way, as long as it's a basic le
not too really complicated one that that works too. I
think that's the biggest selling point with one page rules.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
So they have three different ones, Oh they do?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
How of stuck?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Gotta sock, I gotta suck.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
That's all the books there, but they're of stock.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah oh yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Cold War gone hot, World War three?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, that expensive, so they do not have any. But
that is a good idea. I did actually find looks
like uh second edition, two thousand and six edition and
two thousand and nine edition.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
But all out of sock.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Well yeah, I appreciate the suggestions though, because like I said, it's.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh no, it's not every rule set works for everything.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
So that's all good. I just need to get a
little warm and oh is he well hello mister Minnie Warmont.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
How are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Actually been waiting for you to show up. So she
has some kind of banter.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, you just don't play along.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, it's because I I'm I'm with Telemachus and a
bunker somewhere. You guys can fight it out. Well, that's
want my coffee, I'll take you. Give coffee away. That's heresy.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Hey you no know I like it?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, now, wrong shop, We're ending the show right now now, Yeah,
many warm UT's all Hello Charles, Hello Olemicus, Many warm Ut.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
We were talking earlier about how OURPG seemed to be
really taken off, and I know you've noticed that, so,
I mean they've always been there, of course, but just
some of the things that used to be really popular
that kind of faded back are now swinging around again.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So that's all good. But we've we've got enough going
with OURPG as it is now.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
And oh, I don't know. There are some groups in
our area though that do that quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
So I haven't heard of any.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well that doesn't mean.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
To say that I said I haven't heard of.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Any leaning back in a chair. Again, yes, some people
don't learn, but I don't know. RPGs would just be
we're already in one, so we're good. We're good on that.
We do.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Got to try to get a game as homicide down
there our many warm money. You're watching the Chiefs game,
listening to us and getting your next sol RPG prep. Wow,
that's multitasking, Brian, that's pretty good multitasking right there.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
It would be too much of a distraction for me
to try to watch.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Well.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I guess if you're playing in the background, you're not
watching it. You can listen to listen to the game.
So props to you for getting all that done.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
He's actually gotting break out a historical game.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Many warm Yeah, says he thought about busted out of
historical game?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
What what type of historical game like in Napoleonic a
Civil War?

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Ah, the old older types or what? What? Which one?
There's quite a few of them.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
But historical gaming is fun too. You just if nothing else,
that teaches you to look up stuff. And then oddly,
when you really start looking up stuff, you find out
way more what you got taught in school.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
So you get a better perspective.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Of that's pretty sad.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
The Saxons. The last one was the Saxons versus the
Vikings don't have a show or something like that. Well,
there's a lot of Viking stuff out there, but so
my question is that many were not Were they miniatures
or were they like I don't know, hex Encounter or

(31:03):
something like that, because the hex Encounter stuff. I know
there is a lot of war stuff. Painting some World
War two.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
While printing Fantasy mini characters for the Oh for Against Darkness,
Charles says, I'm listening, and that is all. He's got
three games set up. You guys have my complete attention.

(31:41):
You've got three games set up. Awesome, Awesome, Charles. That's
that's pretty cool. Gotta have them set up and ready
to go. And like we said before, I guess the
drawback is we kind of need another room.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
But we do just for room to do the gaming.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
And then what we need is to figure out you know,
the tables are four by four, you're gonna want two
feet on each side, So we need an eight foot
wide by twenty foot long just for the tables.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Twenty foot long. You want to put two tables together.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's or that's a four by eight table, that's twelve
by twelve room.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
That way the table you have two table set up
at all time.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Many more that says hex and what kind of cardboard
is this game? I know the hex and counter stuff
can get really huge. Boy, I leave that to professionals
like Jeff.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
And Todd and all that. I don't. I don't attempt
to try to do anything. I'm like you many warm up.
The hex and counter stuff is interesting, and I'll do
the small our based ones. I don't. I don't really
want to try like a two thousand type of we.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Would never get through.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, Charles says to a C. W.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
The twelfth and Baltimore nineteen thirteen. Okay, there's always wars
to choose from.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
And what's interesting is some of these publishers are coming
out with little known everybody knows some of the big battles,
but I've seen some oddball ones where they were, you know,
talking about different littler skirmishes that were important but just
not very much. I guess clown Rise, like some of
the bigger battles were, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
That one that you just got that we couldn't really
figure out a little battle.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
No, that one was, Yeah, that one. Then I got
a couple months ago the Kickstart came in.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, that little I don't that solo player one.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, well what I thought. I couldn't figure it out.
I don't. It doesn't make sense. The directions don't make sense.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Not the nineteen fourteen one.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
No, the other little solo one that's up here somewhere,
not anything, not not a trench knife or whatever it's
called trench knife. The other one where it was just
the map that folded up, it was the battle.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I don't. I don't remember. No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Many moore My makes the point. He goes, I can
read a book about the hex and counter games. Don't
need to push the cardboard. We all know how the
battles ended up. And Charles says, all small games. Yeah,
if the smaller games are just easier to get through.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
The bigger games used to be cool when you had
like an entire day to do it and stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Me and Warma says, which bear am I poking? Oh
that didn't sound right. Well, it depends on if the
bear likes it.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Many warm up. It just all depends.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
And it depends too if Jeff is listening in the background,
but you don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
So he usually shows up after five because he'd be
out golfing or taking a nap. My god, Ashley, he
has he's gonna just woke up from a nap. So
how by Lyon, that's usually what happened. He came back
from golfing or he got up.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Border Wars Volumes one and two. Charles says, he a,
we still gotta do your Russian one that we bought.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
We did, remember, we did play but Smissy something the
PDF or something like.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
That was the paid but we got that. I thought
we got that.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, I don't think we ever recorded. I think we're
gonna play through to see how it worked.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
But we need to record it because it really wasn't
a bad I.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Think Keegan was here playing with us.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah. I see.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's where you get in trouble if you have too
many games, so.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
It kind of comes back on you. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Area games four in each.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Well, some of the hecks and counter games got small maps,
so they're not necessarily big maps like seventeen or whatever
by twenty two there, they're not necessarily huge maps. I
don't think it's up there I think it's on the
shelf over there, but you were looking at that one.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
I got the kickstarted one.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
It was a little one.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, that's over there somewhere. That's sad. I gotta find it.
I should just send it over to you, Charles, so
you could figure it out.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Just didn't It just didn't make sense that that you.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Had to attack, but you couldn't attack one group only
so much. Yeah, so I was kind of like I
tried to play through of it and I was.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Like reading it, Yeah, it just made absolutely no sense.
But yeah, whereas some of them, you have all these
different paths and they have to move, but there's only
one team that can fight.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
There's one team that you can fight to a point,
but they always retreated it and then you could not
destroy them. But they were on a set path. So
basically your unit, I was trying for it. What's the
point of your unit fighting If the unit it's attacking
it's gonna retreat.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
You can't destroy it.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
But then this unit's left stranded because the battle in
real life wash you know, they went after him and
then they they hold up there and then they lost,
but they didn't Neither side got destroyed.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
But the other one took a talent, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'll have to find it. It's she's moved a few
things around. But yeah, it was one of those where
I was just looking through it going, I don't know
now trench and I if that was a cool pocket game.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I think I got my money out of it, and
that's what I'd like to do again. I don't know
how many warm up we've We've every time we try
to set something up, something happens, so I don't know
next game he wants to know, Well, possibly his homicide

(38:57):
because we know those and can run through it, or
Alpha Strike.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Alpha Strike. I've gotten a lot of good responses.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
On more than anyone, more than anything else, which I
appreciate you guys responding to you, by the way, and
it's it's interesting. I can put a video up and
I'll just get four or five responses all the time.
It never really get twenty or thirty responses. But on
certain games like Alpha Strike, I'll get more. On the

(39:33):
the Vezda games, I'll get more and it brings in
more people. Charles says the only thing with the brief
border war games is that you really can't kill anything
permanently off the fights didn't last long weeks or a month.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
So this other one I just can't pull off the
top of my head. I because I kind of gave
up on it months ago, but just.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Just didn't make no sense. I mean, it was historically correct,
but it was almost why'd you put it in there?
It literally didn't make any sense to have it there
because it wasn't playable. I guess it was part of
the game, but you know, it kind of didn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And with the historical games, obviously, you know when you
play them that can change quite dramatically. You know, the
side that loss can win just depends on what you're
doing and how you do it, if there's dice involved
or not, or however you're going about it. But this one.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Just didn't really I was like, what, it sounded cool,
and so I had ordered it, and I was like,
God's cool little soulo game though, But Trench Knife is
a is a very good pocket game. When they say pocket.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Game, you guys, remember it's a pocket game. It just
was pretty nice to play, pretty cool. And then on
Board Game Geek we got a little section we have
over there too, and trench Knife is on that so
it's a kind of opened up a different area for us,

(41:28):
which which was fun, fun, fun to play. So any
of you guys in the podcast list thing and check
out trench Knife. It's a it's a cool little game.
It comes in a ten. You can't miss it. It's
a little tin and very fun, very portable. It's a
you can take it camp in. You can take it,

(41:50):
you know, if.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
You're going to your in laws and you just want.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
To hide out in the room in the house or something,
you could just play with it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
So that's the nice nice thing.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
And it's you can change up the map, so the
map is not the same. We just did this scenario
map to get used to it, but you can literally
just change it up. So well, no, actually he's gone back.

(42:20):
Did you find it?

Speaker 3 (42:21):
If no, I thought you were looking for that game.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
No, you get more coffee.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Oh I don't know. I didn't hear you. See if
you listen, No, I'm not supposed to listen, the husband.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I'm supposed to ignore everything, and then when I get
caught ignoring it, try.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
To come up with an excuse. Right. No, So many
wom always want to know what game next, but.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
We gotta do something probably baltech.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Off a strike. Yeah, what are you gonna eat again
on the show? You're gonna eat crackers?

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Okay, all right, well I guess we'll lastly enjoys her
H's crackers.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
There. How are you? How you doing? We're just all
sitting here chip chatting on some of the games and stuff.
But painty wise, I gotta We've got a bunch of
tanks we gotta paint up for batt next.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I got these you found any paint up?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Well? Those tights think gave you, but.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
They were just sitting in the box, So you may
as well take them an added to your team Yankee
for us and paint them up because Kegan's wanted to
do so, we're gonna do another I do believe many more.
To answer your quiet, Keegan wants to do another boarding
action this coming weekend, like coming up next Saturday, So

(44:11):
he might might do that because he's going through the
book there with the different scenarios. It's just really different
fighting him because I mean, I only only figures I
got for that or my Space breens. So now that
he's decided to be Space Breens, it's different. But he
said he might try putting the necrons in and then.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
He wants to do a three way battle.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Which you can't really do that with boarding action.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
That's I mean, we could and use.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I would set up I would just set up the boards.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
What we could do is do something online.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
If I can load up my the board with teer
nids on the objective and you guys have to boo
your way into it and my guys just stay.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Put Yeah, lots of idea because then you'd be in
the center basically or in the hallways. You'd have to
put a lot of tyrann ins out so we can
fight through it. But that'd be different. Now fight each other,
but that would take you're not gonna accomplish that in the.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Five turns, No, it would not be no five more.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Those are four or five turn games, which makes it
pretty fairly fast unless you're The upside is it does
doesn't take a long time, but you can stop and
eat dinner or do whatever you gotta do and in
the meantime, so our games tend to.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I mean, that's that's one way, and we don't have
to do a quote boarding action. You just have an
open map where we have one objective and you guys have.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
To take boards and put those down and then put
an objective in the middle and the teernets can run
around the center.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
You could do that too, Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And if you get a lucky shot on Keegan, you
get a lucky shot on Keg and vice versa.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
That's where my snipers come in.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Honey, your snipers haven't done nothing.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
No, I sold that one.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
They still haven't done nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
No, I sold that one. The other set they were okay,
see that. See that peytments live. When your spouse is
in the game too, then competition, Yeah, yeah, a little bit,
but that's okay, that's okay, gotta have something. So that

(46:29):
might be what we'll be doing as far as Saturday
now this week, we have intentionally cleared our schedule to
try to get games done. I'd like to get several
of them done and then put out and but for
the most part, I know one of them is going.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
To be Alfa Strike Buried and probably.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Trench You want to do Trench Club Club because that's
the World War One?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, because get my ass handed to me on that one.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
But there's a lot of people that watch our videos
and so they just tend to go.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Over better well with the kids being gone, probably do
an unboxing of that one that we have, and then
do a video.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
On the builds.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, because you'll be able to do that. You could
do that during the day. Yeah, paintment these liveses.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I hear you.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
She won't let you live down. Her tear nets are
pretty hard to beat, but.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Mine take will take some brutal damage.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
But the only thing I have going for me with
those are numbers. And you have the death guard with
the Pokwalkers, they're just bullet mag You keep them in front.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
You have to aim for them because it's the closest
thing to one in the front. Yeah, and that's when
the guys in the back will get you. It's the
only way to pretty much win.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Kikin said he wouldn't play against your tear neds anymore.
He wouldn't play against you if you fielded those, because
he didn't he didn't feel he could win.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
He can't.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I can't win with these. They just keep coming.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
That's the point.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, that's what they're supposed to do, is keep up
the tirade. So boarding action, maybe we'll do that. Then
we'll kick it around him, but it will be an
extended boarding action. We have to modify a bit.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Well, you make.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Game and do it that way and then half a strike.
I'd like to get one of those in and as
that trench club.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
You have new Wings of Glory map too, we need
to pull up. Yeah, we can do Wings Glory.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Well we did do that, but then I didn't like
the way it came out recording the balloon with the blimp.
But it went way, I mean it just went too fast.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, I didn't last three rounds.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It would have been a battle. It was a battle parts.
Looking at I was like, no, no one's gonna believe
we've been played. They're just gonna take We staged it
because it was just in obliteration.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
But with the ground artillery.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, when as basically hit with seeds, which are you
know ten and fifteen damage, Well your plane's destroyed.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah. And that scenario was to our three planes incoming right.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Three and then yeah three against two and.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Then I had the number two planes circling the blimp
with a on the ground or ground you had both
machine guns, so it was she basically got obliterated coming
down towards the blimp and didn't didn't do any damage

(49:51):
payment these life says. I don't mind painting. Pox workers
buy more fun painting than DS.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Like level all the armor, the edge highlights really pop
on them. You if you are correct.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
The Tyrannids you do have a little bit of You
can do something better with them.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Than you can with the fox Walkers.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Like I don't payment's life hasn't. We don't get to
see it too much. But I don't know if you've
seen her collection or if you've seen what she did.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
With that's one page.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
What'd you do with all your turnuts over there?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
My turn Oh the ones that were all up here,
they are up in the box.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Oh, so yeah, you can do She can do a
lot of different highlighting on that and different different paints.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I just keep the basic. I don't even get into
the highlighting and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
So well, I'm.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Trying to pre or having all that. Well, that one's
something different.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
But your turnids look good, oh, I.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Must say they don't. Just there's people that do a
hell of a lot better job than I did. I
just did like a factory. Okay, skin all green, armor,
all blue, that's it.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yeah, but that's me. Actually, don't however you want.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I don't think any of my teernans are actually real
into it. But yeah, I've seen some of them that
are a lot better.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Well, I mean, you can paint however you want.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
But I did see the one lady who went and
used glitter all over. I think it was the Screamer Killers.
I think she did, or maybe it was a Tyrannid.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
No, it was the Screamer Killers.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
So I went and tried. I got like a bunch
of different kind of glitter. I didn't like the one,
so I took it all off, and I'm like, well script,
I went and got glitter glip. They became my Golden Boys. Yeah,
they were a little they are completely covered in gold, a.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Little shiny, little shiny.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
On the other hand, now, I mean that's the fun
part about the games that I like most is just
when you paint it, then that's part of you that
is on on the table, you know, so hear you, guys,

(52:40):
if anyone wants to jump on in, they can.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
There.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I do have a couple that are outlined, the ones
that set me the Prince.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
You have to turn your light on, you can turn
I could add the other camera.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Although that's one thing I do gotta do when the
wattery and get some better kinds, like I can turn
this on.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
So it's that's of dark, but that it's almost too right.
I still have something.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, these are all they fell to reorganize them.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Reorganize them?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Is that one I'm missing? My big white guy?

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Where are you?

Speaker 8 (53:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
A Paintment's Life says, Hey, that's all you need to
be if that's how you like them.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Painting is meant to be enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
A color two is all you need to get them
on the table and plane. And that is exactly exactly true.
We agree with that one thousand. So you you do
the best that you can and enjoy it. I find
painting relaxing, and back when my life wasn't as hectic,
what I enjoyed doing Paintment's Life was I hit YouTube

(53:58):
up and then you know the people I'm following. I
clicked to play one of their videos, you know, and
I just sit and listen to it. Will you turn
on the other slide? Actually behind the flag, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Very dark in here, thank you. It's a little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
I'd say. My one page ruled ones are coming out
a little bit more. I don't know where. I know
I put them in a box. I just don't know
what box now.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Oh boy, I'm missing.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
One of my guys and I have no idea what box.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
I put it.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
On here.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Oh yes, you put it down under your desk, under the.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
The zombicide figures.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Those uh actually the hell a good job on and
that was. That was quite a few of those, so
like one hundred plus of them, so lots of them
to play with the name just the just.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Look good when you set them down.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
There's my screamer killer. Well one eye throw my bigger models.
That's why they're in there. I know they're dusty. I
haven't been played.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
You have to turn your light on there, all right,
Paintment's life.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
She's gonna take some of these out to show you.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
What I broke. The squirrels guys armor thing off. Damn it.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Broke by sticky. This one's leaking. One of them is leaking,
you being leacoling. I just don't know which one. M
there's resident here. One of them is leaking. H that

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that's not good.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
This one should be Lencolns months later, I know, but
it didn't train correctly.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Look it's all over my mouth pad. Now, well that's
gonna be fun. I'm gonna have to clean them up. Yeah, yeah,
luckily I have.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
There.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
You want to shut it off, I'm gonna try to
cure that one again.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
You can't just let it be.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
That's what happened with Kegan's the one I painted him.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
So this is a.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
What you McCall it?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
A off print that brother Metho sent me. So he
sent me two different ones. This one is Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
But see you did edges on that.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
This one I did. But it's do walk about.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Ha?

Speaker 3 (57:14):
It's good at least I'm somebody's hope.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Uh, Charles says, I try and do three colors. Some
of the miniatures. It just depends like those dwarves that
look dwarves, look how many?

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Oh cool? Hold on? Paint many lives? A joining to
hold on?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
H Yeah, we should be able to hear.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, let's see. How do you can you hear me? Oh?
Here we go, there we go. Now we can hear
you hold on? Let me it us just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Let's do it this way hopefully now we can see it.

Speaker 7 (58:06):
It's good to see you guys. Yeah, I see you
around the net everywhere.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
You do see us every Yeah, that's scary.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
I saw I saw Ashley over at uh wolf brother
Hobbies the other night.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Oh yeah, meet those there. We've been We've known him
for seven years years, so we've been following him from
way back when with him and al Oh yeah, so
it's been quite a long time. But yeah, he's a
he's a good guy. We have a lot of fun and.

Speaker 7 (58:46):
There's a lot of there's a lot of real good
folks around in the hobby community that you know, kind
of kind of interesting how those networks kind of vuying
out once you once you meet one, you end up
starting to meet everybody.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
And we've met we've met really good people. I mean
where the hobby I know there's gatekeepers and such. I
like that here and there, but pretty much everty we've
interacted with, it's just been really cool to hang out
with and ch chat. That's what this show is about,
is it's not always a theme set show.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
It's just if you want to hang out and talk
or talk about your channel or talk about what you
do or whatever, you're welcome to be on. That's why
I put that link in there.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
And Okay, yeah, those models are looking great. Ashley. By
the way, Yeah, I don't really.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
Play too much with the Tearannids anymore because we kind
of switched over to one page rules.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
It's just easier to follow along.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
Yeah for sure. For sure, forty k can get pretty
uh get pretty rules heavy.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Yeah, complicated, and it's not something I would throw somebody
in that didn't do any table type.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of something you got to lead
up to somehow.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Oh, you're gonna show them the one that you got some.

Speaker 8 (01:00:11):
I got the gold got so much for that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
I like it, and it's cool. It's unique. I don't
think i've seen anybody do like metallic metallic kiting on
on Tyrannis before. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
She got lecture, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Yeah, that's not right. Why would you put on him?
That's their mind.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
So we had to delete a couple of those comments
because they got kind of bad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
But other people are like, hey, man, paint however you want.

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'd rather have something painted at the table,
even if it's goofy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Hey Nates, Oh, Nates Beers, how are you morning, He says, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
England, I believe he's been on our show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Once to think that, Yeah, we kind of we're just
odd balls.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
We kind of like a little we're not really dangerous
in any one game.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
We kind of bounce a bit, but it's fun. Oh well, no,
I can see but now I'm now it's hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
We said this one back off.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Well, I don't know if at all. No, now it
looks orange, give me a second to it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Just yeah, my fancy dancy ten year old Logitech camera
still going strong.

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
They're built like tanks, man, absolute tank to those little
Logitech webcams. Yeah, I I just picked up when I
first started doing PML, I picked up two Logitech c
nine twenties. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I picked up two of
those because I was like, no matter what happens, these
things will never break.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
So yeah, it's a.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Good good money well spent I guess, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yeah, I thought it was good money. This is what
we've been doing this eight years so and I still
have the same MIC I started with, which is a
brand called Newer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Okay E W E R. And it's got the like
a power pack of Phantom power packs, so it's like
trickle power.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
It's a boom mic up here. But it's interesting. They're
what you would consider. Oh that's not your your thousand
dollars setup, but didn't need to be, and it's lasted
all this time. Yeah, yeah, I have a backup mic
just in case. But I don't think it's what you're

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doing now.

Speaker 7 (01:02:40):
Oh there you go. Yeah, yeah it looks it looks
like a great setup. Same thing with the other one
on the boom arm too. That's a really good idea.
I might have to steal that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I'm not gonna lie steal cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
And so what I did is, I'm like, okay, what
if I get a backup I come from the boom arm,
keep the mic in the box if this one goes out,
and then I have a secondary arm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
So we use this when we eat, like as too, if.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
We travel, we've done like from the coffee shop and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Well you have a secondary.

Speaker 7 (01:03:14):
One with my Oh yeah, I've got something similar I've
I've used in the past too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Yeah. They're a great They're great to have her turn
us back on. It's just too dark.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
What I want being blinded? Well, I stack it from
you technically, Yeah not Actually, I got a new one.
So what do you you?

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
What have you guys been thinking of? One page rules.
It's a system I've never played before, and I but
I've like, I've heard wonderful things about it and it
looks like it's pretty you know, easy to pick up
and go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
It is. It's way easier to go. And my.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Take on is if you played forty K, then you're
just going to pick this up. And it's they're kind
of you could tell they liked forty K. That's what
they were playing, and then they came up with this,
So you're just going to set your your your stuff up.
But the rules themselves are much simpler. Okay here yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
Yeah, Hi King, Hey many warmutt?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Yeah, many warmuts here? And uh Nate spinatures he said.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
It's am is where he is, Wow in Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Well we're then you can have a couple of coffee
with us, right sir?

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah, God, I'm glad you showed him here today too.
So he said he used to stream in twenty nineteen
and have a Logitech web can they worked? Well, they
do Logitech.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I love my Logitech stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
What do we have?

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I think my mouth that I had that was large.
I finally died, but that was ten eleven years old.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I will tell you something paytment is we had.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I had and everybody knows this, but I had this
oddball camera I found like on eBay. Literally it was
like thirty five dollars and it had a zoom lenge
on it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
It was for your computer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
It's only a scene where you can adjust the and
oh my god, the quality was fantastic. And then one
day it just started going yellow and oh what you did?
It just but it lasted about two years. And I
have like a pole you can't see here mounted it
comes down. Yeah, and I just screwed the camera onto

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that and it would highlight my desk here to the
right when I was painting and stuff, and oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
You could just adjust the zoom on it and I have, yes, Yeah,
that's kind of another one like that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:51):
Yeah, I ended up breaking the bank on unlike one
of the Sony I can't remember the exact name of it.
I think it was like the ZV one F or whatever.
It's just the it's got the fixed lens on it.
But I needed something with the zoom. You almost have

(01:06:11):
to have it. If you're gonna try and teach somebody
how to paint, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
You want to zoom in on the miniature and be
able to have it clear. Now, Logitech is great for
like just like this.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
Yeah, room shots are perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Yeah, but if I try to hold a miniature up
to it, regardless of liding, it doesn't. Yeah, get blurried,
it doesn't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
What do you laugh?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
I guess many warmut cousins of Rucus.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Yeah, he says, don't let Greg talk out using your
space brains for one page roll because the forty K
or purist just can't use the space brains as battle brothers. No,
that's not what I said, Yes you did. I said
I can't use them as the human Defense Force. I
couldn't proxy in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
And the reason is when you've been playing Warhammer, it's
like a cult anyways, when you try to play, you
take your space frames and put them in this situation
and then you die. You're like, no, no, no, that's it. Mentally, no,
that doesn't That's just not how that would have worked out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
So it was my excuse to use my She's a
little in printer to print up a human Defense Force army.
So I did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Now with one page rules, if you have a forty
K background, you're gonna transition really easy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
If you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
It's because it's almost explained to you, like you have
this knowledge a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Of yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, and like you've got
some background.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I say, basically, Keegan's Boltan is the Dowars. My Tiernids
are the aliens. In one page rules, I switched over
to the star host, which are a dinosaurs, because I
absolutely love dinosaurs.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
I was gonna ask walk about games was talking about.
I took a little bit of time and I researched
this PTZ camera they were talking This thing looks flipping wild?

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Yeah? Is that?

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Will that track a mini? I'm curious because I've been
trying to figure that one out because I tend to
like I'll start painting and I'll drift off screen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
You know everybody does that. But I guess my question is,
so if if that, what are you doing there? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
So what check on it and see because if it drifts,
if it'll stay with the Mini as you move, as
long as it's clear, like you can get the setup
where you stand back and they're like fifty bucks, you
put your cell phone camera on there and you walk
back and forth and it follows you because.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
It's you know tracking, right. Also there's sick.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
They're all these are all like creatures.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Hold on, is a get go? I didn't say that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:55):
Oh the alligators look sick. They've got like missile racks
going on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Yeah, that's pretty dope.

Speaker 7 (01:09:04):
Where did you get these guys from?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
These printed? These are all one.

Speaker 7 (01:09:08):
Okay, cool those printed?

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
And then I have my big guy that doesn't fit
in this box. Herem here, you move, you move.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
So here let me.

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
Okay, that's all right. That's pretty dope. I guess. I
guess that camera can do can track models. Oh, it's
that's really cool. How you got all of the Yeah,
all thelight is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
What I did is took moved green from citadel and
literally added water to.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
It and just let it, just let it. There you go.
That's the way to do her. Ye, very nice, very nice.
I'm impressed you managed to do that without having to
go back over it with the black.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
I did in some places.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
That's that's what I'd have to do. Color it all
green and then and then try and go over the
black and missed the miss the trenches.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
So it wasn't too bad on some of it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
That's the ruler down there.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
This was painted or done with our actual.

Speaker 7 (01:10:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. It reminds me of that
like lizard Man kind of a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Yeah, well, yeah I did it more jungle ly, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Yeah, it looks it looks more Jurassic Party the way
you did your kind.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Like Jurassic Park tron kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:10:45):
Yeah. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
My printers started going out because I needed a new screen,
but it did a print blake, so I had a
big enough rock I shoved on her knee.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
Because hey, whatever works work right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
That too, But it reminds me. The theme reminds me
of an N sixty four video game called Okay Okay,
many warmonts as one page rule models make that GW
sit a little good? It does? They have good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I absolutely love paints, I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
But we use also Leo.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, we use a lot of different ones.

Speaker 7 (01:11:29):
Have you guys tried monument hobbies?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
No? I haven't.

Speaker 7 (01:11:33):
I okay, well I you I I gotta remind myself.
I gotta send you like a couple of colors. You
guys can let me know which ones, but let me
know what kind of colors you want, and I'll send
you a couple of bottles to test out because it's
been like paint crack for me. I yeah, it's been.
It's been like paint crack, to the point that I

(01:11:54):
went to them and basically begged them to let me
like sell the stuff because it's I don't know, it's
just it's so good. They're the way that they're bottles.
They don't have they have like a little dropper cap,
like a twist dropper cap, so you can get really
small amounts or really like large amounts. But I and

(01:12:15):
all of them come with an agitating beat in it,
which I found like saves my wrist for more important
things later in the evening.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
You know what we use.

Speaker 7 (01:12:25):
I really really enjoyed that using some of their stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Well we'll try it out. I've never tried it, and
we use and don't laugh. But about the nail polish
shaker years.

Speaker 7 (01:12:35):
Ago, Yeah, yeah, that's what I use.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
I use yep, and it shakes that right there. It
was yeah, I think it was twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I think it was that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
And yeah, it's got that rubber strap that just any
size for the bottle, so you could do the pots
and the regular bottles.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Because like I said, we use we use Vallejo paint
to Army.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
And yeah yeah even bones paints.

Speaker 7 (01:13:04):
Yet to go and try some of the new Army
painter stuff. I really really.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Want to Army painter.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
The fanatic paints. Oh my god, those are gorgeous paints.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
Pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Huh yeah, what did I paint?

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Most of this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
I don't think he's seen.

Speaker 7 (01:13:22):
This, but that robot was sick to by the way,
Ashley holy Man, you got like a little diorama. Go
there you go, so that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
He can't she can't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
You can't see your fingers right where the there you go?
Red on him. All three of these colors, which is yellow, orange,
and red are all fanatic colors. The black that's on
these are fanatic colors. This was white is a fanatic color.

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Wash over them.

Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
Nice Wow, great job, great job. Yeah yeah, that is
super sick though. That is really cool. Wow. I've always
I've always wanted to do a di roma. It just

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seems like it's one of those things that like, once
you get going on it, you're gonna be You're gonna
be on that project for for a while, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
So this is one of Greggs that we three D printed.
This is basically like his titan.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Yeah, many of one of that says paint pins are awesome.
So does walk About. He says he uses the paint pin.
That's a lot of people are starting to use those
from when I.

Speaker 7 (01:14:44):
Hear yeah, yeah, I have yet to test those out either.
I've just gotten so used to the brush brush.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Walk About, gains Is painting and Ashley and Greg miniature.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Oh yeah, you remember you said that a couple of
weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Yeah, I forgot, but very cool. Just uh did you?
Did you three D print a cup of coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
That goes with my miniature? Oh? You see that arm
works pretty well? I love Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Way it's done.

Speaker 7 (01:15:21):
Very nice, very nice. I haven't been to the uh
I call it the creation Cave, but it's just the
glorified basement, uh spare bedroom that I've modified into the
paint studio. But I haven't been down there in quite
a while. I've been uh, I've been back at firefighting
school recently, so I haven't been. I haven't been able
to paint. It's been a huge overload of info on

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the brain and trying to keep up with all the
homework and stuff has been absolutely crazy. I I've gone
back to do my E M T. So it's the
last certificate that I need to get into professional firefighting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
So nice. That's exhausting of courses too. I've talked to
guys that's pretty physically demanding.

Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
It's four like five months, I think basically five months.
It's one semester worth of schooling uh and then you
you're basically the last month is all like clinical stuff.
I think at the end of this month, I'm doing
uh stuff at the er for my clinicals and maybe
a couple of local area fire departments and an ambulance service.

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I'm going to as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Well, what do you mean I had a coffee cup?
Oh no, i'mbout a better have a damn coffee cup.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Nate Mantra said he had orc boys. He put it
out and he's gonna be painted. Oh he's gonna go
get a cup of coffee, you said, be right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
Back there you go. Orcs are always so fun, man.
I really like the fact that they're just you can
slap any color on orcs.

Speaker 9 (01:16:57):
And you know, well, I generally do like this the
World War two type of stuff, more of that painting
and military stuff, but this time I branched out and tried.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
The dwarves and everybody said I did a good job,
and I was kind of leary because the only.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Reason you get the doors you want to go after
my squirrel?

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Squirrel? Oh you mean you're ratman, Yeah, the only reason
you Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
So when we first started the one page rules, I
was going through the models and there's a set that
was it was on sale for like ten bucks or
something like that, and it had a giant ass squirrel.
So didn't realize that I can't play with those.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Against they're the wrong era, more like kind of okay
and if something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
So then she went back to that era and with
one page rules, we got the files to pronounce dwarves.
So I painted up so that we have basically just
a squad ish enough to fight and see how it goes.
Can get MIC's works. Yeah, so Peyton May's live. He

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likes to really her.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
And and him go back and forth quite a bit.

Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
Oh yeah, I've seen. I've seen the epic epic chat battles.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
I tend to tend to go back and forth a bit.

Speaker 7 (01:18:28):
So I try to get over here when I can.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
It's it's appreciate it for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
Yeah, you guys you guys are great man, and especially
like all the the banter with all the people in
the chat. It's it's really really kind of fun this
little like you know, streaming and and doing the hobby stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Because you just meeting so many cool people.

Speaker 7 (01:18:51):
Oh absolutely, I can't wait to dig into walk About
and Nate's, Minnie's and you know all the all the
other folks in here their their channels after after I
pop off of the stream here, you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Know, you have to watch YouTube because I over the
years I've noticed that I'm like, why am I not
getting notifications?

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
And I go to a channel I've subscribed to it, Yeah,
I am what is that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
So now I've made it a happen to periodically just
go through and check because I've had people tell me
why I didn't know you're on, didn't show up and
then it's turned off.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Yeah right right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
If you don't watch them like often enough or something,
it just shuts them off.

Speaker 7 (01:19:37):
Yeah, I've I've heard the same stuff. I've heard the
same stuff from other folks.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:19:42):
There, people aren't seeing their stuff anymore. And I don't
know what's going on with the you know, internal wiring
of of the site, but it just seems strange. Seems
strange to me.

Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
It's probably something online of if you're inactive or you
don't watch them as often, it probably pushed, is it out?
So Yeah, that you watch like on a daily basis,
or you know, a couple times a week or whenever
they go live, it pops them up as a priority.

Speaker 7 (01:20:10):
Mm hmm yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Yeah, you paint and play and then you just have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
He says, paint to play, paint to play.

Speaker 7 (01:20:26):
Oh, there's walk about games. Okay, I'm just I'm going
through and subscribe to all the folks so I can
see him later. The Walkabout was in. Uh, did you
guys do anything for Brian's October painting challenge?

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Yeah? That that was that was yours?

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Yeah, maybe we have two different Brians on here. Do
you mean Mini.

Speaker 7 (01:20:50):
Warmu or uh, you're right right, that's right, their birthday
Brian weird. World War two.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
No, we did not do anything for World War War two,
and it wasn't on purpose of just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Just bad timing and didn't have anything to really paint
for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:21:05):
For sure. Yeah. I I'm bad school, so I'm not
I'm not currently painting, but I put that one on
my calendar. I kind of want to, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
If you have some, because there's some there are some
interestingly weird models out there you can get and the
other Brian weird world work too. He's got got a
lot of adult molls you want. I can say at
this point, which is the.

Speaker 7 (01:21:30):
Thing he's into that side of stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
That's all good, We're not. I'm not gonna plain. Just
like I look around my desk, I'm like, I don't
I don't have any of that, but weird. I have
to try to see for the next time he does
it to come up with something odd ball. I mean,
that's what normal, not our normal. Well to me, it
would be not what we.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Normally would paint, like armor and tanks, And yeah, I say,
that's our kind of thing, is armor and tanks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
I'd like to find something that I don't have to
go into that that painting thing, because otherwise it's not
different for me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Does that make sense, I guess.

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I I saw there were some
pretty cool submissions and it would like it kind of
went they had a whole bunch or the submissions that
came in. There was a whole range of models in there.
It wasn't. It wasn't just totally militaria in there, but
there were there were definitely some spot on weird World
War two ones and that you have. You guys seen

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the submission video for that one. There's some of them
that have really cool like backgrounds that they've set up,
you know, like almost like little diorama backers that they've
they've put in there, a little props and things to check.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Because it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
For quite some time, a couple of years. So sometimes
I've had him on in the past. I've gone his
and I try to catch his shows.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
And we'll have ing up on the show. That's our
son in law.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
There.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
You go, very nice?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Are they?

Speaker 7 (01:23:01):
Are they painting too?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Kegan?

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Yeah, he paints on.

Speaker 7 (01:23:06):
On YouTube here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Uh no, not really. He paints at home and then
puts him on the table. You'll see his stuff off
and on.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Okay, okay, cool back Nate Nate Miniatures was back. Yeah.
I did a little video the one day.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Do you remember back when YouTube was doing the whole
thing about having kids on and you could get a
forty thousand dollars fine, and they were going through all
people's videos and stuff. I have like eighty videos and
then I was unsure what to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
What to do?

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Yeah, starter, so I just removed them. Oh I started over. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
But one of my videos was kind of just I
was joking with Keegan. He had he had his American
troops and I was had the German World War II
troops and I was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Like, what naked troops? They're naked?

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
They don't because they weren't painted, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Kegan made me paint his troops.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Yeah, she painted it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
And then.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
As a challenge runs from Winster, so springs.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
About another paint challenge. Yeah, hobby paint challenge.

Speaker 7 (01:24:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's another one I want to get in
onto at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
That's a long pay challenge.

Speaker 7 (01:24:23):
Isn't it done by how many models.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
You can do? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
Maybe maybe I can have my memory many warmut but
I thought it wasn't. It wasn't how many models. It's
like somewhere between nine millimeter and up or something with that,
how many models you could get done. I'm not sure
if you're if it's changed, but that was I think
that was the last one I entered with many warmut O.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Hold on just a second.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yeah, I was gonna say Johnny had said that earlier
back he said something he hasn't painted for display.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
I think you do good at that there are and he.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Said this is his channel for painting extra life, et cetera.
He uses a he can always use a painting challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Yeah, that's kind of what we do is to break
down everything and just get them done. Is we use
the painting challenges.

Speaker 7 (01:25:16):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
The actual diorama took me about three weeks of almost
straight painting.

Speaker 7 (01:25:24):
That sounds yeah, it sounds about right. I was going
to say it looked like about a month where the.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
Most part, Yeah, because I was able to knock out
some of them that had the same figures kind of
back to back.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Didn't you pin the flame coming out? Didn't we put
a pin in that? Or you were going to put
a p.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
I was going to I just chopped it out and
grind grinded it out and then just kind of shoving
in there and of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
The update, just subscribe to Knight's miniature is awesome, say
he can.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Said painting's overrated. Army of Gray's beds. Make them earn
their paint. What are you gonna do? He can put
them in jail like your dice printed a jail.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
He printed jail because.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Whenever dice doesn't roll well for him, he usually checks
them across the room.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Yeah, he throws them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
You know, it's a good thing because most of us
tabletop gamers have more dice than we really need. But
so now he's now want to go play over there
with he's got a dice show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
And say, we don't have to worry about bringing our
own dice anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
Dice in the jail there you go for when they misbehave.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Right, Yeah, you have somewhere to put him. Nice. Nice.

Speaker 7 (01:26:54):
Yeah, it's been it's been interesting. I've been able to
kind of catch a lot more a lot more people
since I I'm not painting, Holy man, I have people there.
There have been some folks that have been really out
there killing it with some some pretty models. Mythos and
the miniature is it the miniature painter, I think is

(01:27:15):
who's got around now? Yeah, they were knocking out some
some cool models. You guys are out here doing some
cool work too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
I saw a few.

Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
M I saw a few of a few mini Warmuts
updates too. I saw like it did like a smith
and I think it was like a beer maid just
some you know, NPC kind of looking minis those those
turned out really well. I've also, have you guys played

(01:27:48):
with contrast paints at all? Yes, yeah, I I I
haven't dipped my toes in that water either, but I
know I see I see some folks on the pm
L discord who who do a decent amount with the
contrast stuff. What do you guys, What do you guys
think of that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Some of the contrast paints work pretty well, but a
lot depends on I think, to kind of what you're
used to painting or your painting style. And I like
the contrast for and I'm just talking about space rings
and nothing else that the contrast pain on that to
me works way better. It's it saves me the step
of going back over it, you know and shading it,
and it works beautiful, It runs smooth, and it's a

(01:28:33):
good solution for that particular those models on some of
the other contrasts, Like I tried the skin contrast, and
I'm used to using like a flesh and then a
flesh tone, you know, right in the face with flesh
of whatever based flesh you want, and and a skin tone.
I don't think on the ones I've used it. It

(01:28:56):
works as good, although it does work better I think
on like if you have a lot of muscle showing
on a figure, like some of the what was the
ones we painted and there's a lot of muscle showing dwarves. Yeah,
so when I painted those with that, it seemed to
work good on their arms, but it just didn't work

(01:29:17):
on the face very well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
So maybe it's I don't think you have enough sign there.

Speaker 7 (01:29:22):
Yeah, enough surface area. You have some surface area to
make it work.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
Yeah, speed paints. I agree with lin Star.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
It's the same concept, just different name for a different product.
I mean, the same product.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Nate's brought up a good point. There are a lot
of good creators. It's hard to keep up with everyone.
It is hard to keep up with everyone. That's kind
of why we do this, because people are invited. They
just come by, like you pop on if you want
to just ship chat it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
It is hard. There's a lot of good people, a
lot of good painters, and we've learned a lot by
watching other people too, so it's fun fun.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
To I say, the contrast paints, the speed paints, they're
all basically meant to do a one coat and you're done.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
But the speed paints Winster says are awesome, and they
they do work good for a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
It depends on what you're trying to do.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
It depends, I think, because like the Dwarves, I use
the total of like seven or eight paints on one model.
So the paint, the speed paint leather that I found
works excellent. And the problem that you know, like on
the pouches.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Or things like that, and I really enjoy using that
because when it tries, it tries just like it's a
leather pouch or a leather sling or strap.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Or oh nice, and you just you know, they're a
little more running or I guess, so you gotta kind
of use a little less.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
But I think it just depends on what you're painting
and what you want it to do. We like them
for the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
I mean I I think they save you a lot
of time on certain models.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
For me, I like a little bit thicker paints. That's
just me, and then I can do Usually I put
black wash over almost everything I paint.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Well, that's why I gave because Brian loves to going
to me talk about space brains. But for that particular
group of models. You're gonna do the space green blue,
and then you're gonna put a Nolan oil over.

Speaker 7 (01:31:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
So it's a single color kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
When you do it singling and it runs into all
the cracks, it looks like you've done all that and
it saves you a complete step. So if you're painting okay,
twenty models, you don't have to sit there and go
back over it again, and.

Speaker 7 (01:31:42):
You have to you don't mess it up, right, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
That's pretty hard to mess it up, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
But my only thing with the Speed paint and the
Cynadel's ones are say you do the blue all down
and then you have a touch of cool or black
and you get it on that paint that spot where
you're gonna try to.

Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
Fix, Oh yeah, it would be really hard to try.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
And that's but that's if if it's a little tiny spot,
you just dab it in there, it'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
But it does like the muscle area on the Dwarves,
it's a much larger model area on the model, so
the paint has a chance to kind of really work
itself out. I don't I personally just didn't like it.
For faces. I still use the two tone that's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
But but it does work on larger surface area, it
does work well. So, like I said, we I mean
we got Citadel Paints, Blo Paints, Army paint or paints.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
She likes. The Bones paints are actually very good too.

Speaker 7 (01:32:51):
A couple didn't they wasn't the Bones Lione, I thought,
I think I still have a couple of bottles around,
but weren't they like the MSR series or whatever, Reaper
HD their HD line at one point.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Some of it's really nice paint.

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
M yeah, M S P That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Back in the day. This is years ago.

Speaker 10 (01:33:14):
We still got She goes, I'm not sure what to do,
so I borrowed the learned Yeah yeah, which was amazing
deal and it even came with the three.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Then I got the second one. So now that was
a long time ago. But now she's refilled those paints too,
So Bones paints are good too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:33:36):
Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed them because they had I mean,
I think more more of the paint manufacturers are are
going that that with the higher pigment loads now, but
they were one of the first that had a really
hardcore amount of pigment in them. Yep, it was great.
Oh my gosh, you could get miles out of a

(01:33:58):
drop of paint from them. And I think it's still
true with their their stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
I think actually it goes yeah quite a bit, and
then water it down just enough. It kept the pigmic color. Yeah,
it would actually go and basically more of a wash,
but it was a dark wash.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
Yeah, Nate's Nate's got a good point. And this is
what I was thinking too, And uh, to back up
a little bit on the contrast paints, Uh, going further
with the like doing highlights over over the contrast paint.
That's probably what I would I would want to go for.
I think that's like a little extra step. Yeah, yeah,

(01:34:40):
I think that that might be something worth trying when
I get my hands on some.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
You just have to try it on something that you
know you want to give it a shot. On hand,
it's roun's a little quicker, so you don't need as much,
you don't need to load the brush up as much,
and it's gonna but it's gonna flow really nice. So
just my suggestion, just keep working with it as it
goes and it'll flow right into the seams that you want.

(01:35:07):
So it does. It does give a more overall appearance
on some things a lot better. Sure, And that's what
Nate says.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
He loves speed paints and contrasts and airbrush. Yeah it
says it works very well and that would be that
would be great. Johnny says, See that.

Speaker 7 (01:35:25):
Sounds really cool. That sounds that sounds fun. Contrast paint
through an airbrush. There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
I just don't see how that would really work the
way the paint's supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
I mean, I think it was I think it was
Mythos that sent me a video once a while long
while back and someone used like an airbrush and they
put a sharpion the top. They rigged it so it
hold the sharpion front.

Speaker 7 (01:35:53):
Oh yeah yeah, so a little.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Bit of air if you're not going crazy, it'll start
spraying that sharpie paint all over for your model. M h.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
And people were doing that, and I notice now instead
of people painting eyes, they are using you know, paint
pins or you could, yeah, so kind of whatever you
because it is hard on eyes, Like I've used toothpicks,
you know whatnot.

Speaker 7 (01:36:16):
But I would rather poop in my hands and clap
than eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
Yeah yeah, or use the car yellow.

Speaker 7 (01:36:26):
Yeah, yellow is another one, although I really like on
like Space Marines and stuff. If you put some pink
or like or or like red underneath the yellow and
then basically try and hide it with our yeah, and
then go and put the yellow over the top of
it and kind of hide it, it leaves some really
cool Yeah, it leaves some really cool uh uh shadowy

(01:36:49):
effects on there.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
So with painting, when you're trying to match like yellows
and whites and stuff like that, it's almost impossible to
actually get on maature go.

Speaker 7 (01:36:59):
To the color will Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Whatever the opposite is is what's gonna basically use to
help cover it up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Our biggest thing anymore is just time.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
Like you're yeah, your thing is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
It's not that we don't want to, It's just that
I would like to. Because when I sit and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
Paint, like I said, generally, I used to just listen
to other shows and I would sit in paint the show.
Their shows are in the background. I'm just relaxed and
chilling and not thinking about work and the world and
all the stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
So right, Oh, so Night says contrasts work well in
an airbrush because it's like a tent.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
So what I will do is do is in us
will highlight after a prime and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Then get an oil wash and all the recesses and
wait for it to dry and airbrush and contrast paint.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Wow, okay, now that makes sense. I was trying to
figure out how with the contrast it's supposed to hole
in you know, the creases and stuff on you know,
you're the color. So that makes sense now, see, And
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
I have never used an airbrush, but man, I have
seen some beautiful work done.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
People get to good with an airbrush. They can do
insane stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:38:14):
It's uh for for me, I feel like it's a
tool that just it allows you to speed up your work.
I mean, sure, there's obviously the like you know, no
brushstrokes on the model kind of thing looks nice a
little bit, but it just it speeds up the work
in some of the initial phases if you're gonna do it,
you know, really by a rote and and not go

(01:38:36):
down the contrast route or whatever. But like it really
does speed up that initial base coat quick, you know,
dirty highlights on some details or whatever. Really good for that.
And like larger projects too, it's great for but there's
no substitute for good brush work. Like it's just a foundation,

(01:39:00):
no technique. Everybody's got to be able to whip them
brushes out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Just don't drink the brush water, don't drink, don't put
it next to your your your drink whatever your drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Done that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:17):
I've done that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
I've done that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:19):
Yep, yeah, they've done that.

Speaker 9 (01:39:22):
I feel like, God, dang, I have been fortunate.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
I haven't done that, but I'm not saying it won't happen.

Speaker 7 (01:39:31):
I've just been fortunate, fortunate.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (01:39:34):
The curse hasn't spread to you quite yet, Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Not yet, not not yet, not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
I think the reason is with Greg, do you have
one of those stuffs over there, over by the page.
So with mine, I have Greg bought me an actual
Citadel wash Ben.

Speaker 8 (01:39:51):
Okay, this is coffee cup, Greg, Well, I use an
Express Ocean an espresso cup.

Speaker 7 (01:40:04):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
He's you know, his brain's okay, small cup minus it's gray,
it's a coffee cut.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
Maybe that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
So that is what I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Many more much as Ashley looks like she drank quite
a bit of paint water.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Yes, I have that stuff is not fun, says.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
He's terrible at details with an airbrush. But if you're
doing a space brain army, it's great for a bass coat.
I could see that. But that's where the the contrast
paint that out puts out for them. You do, you
have no brushstrokes, you're when you're done painted, it's it
just all runs together.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
There must be some kind of like leveling fluid in there,
you know how they make it. But I know they
have some paints or whatever, especially like in the enamel
world where it's like it's advertised as self leveling. This
must be there must be something in there that does that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Agent. Yeah, yeah, talk about says he almost fell out
of his chair. Many what's called it there?

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
If you do that walk about video it we're absolutely
so mad that I but that was many Warmont's idea
that I make trying to make that critical viral of
you crash and shut up?

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Why do you bring it up?

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Every I was hoping it would get a million views,
but it didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
It was so so good, and then you don't learn
a lesson. You're leaning back in that chair too, like
you just don't.

Speaker 7 (01:41:41):
So yeah, anyways, I I haven't had a ton of
time with it. But I've had a lot of fun
with the the new Harder and Steambeck uh c R
plus it's there one of their new air brush. And

(01:42:01):
the fun thing about that one is all of the
internals are made out of titanium. Uh so yeah, yeah,
so even the small bits like the the needle housing
that you used to have to really worry about how
hard you push the needle in there because they were
like made out of brass, so you could really open
them up if you force the needle in there, and

(01:42:24):
and you'd end up with like just basically you'd have
to buy a new like nozzle or needle house housing
for it, because once you open that up, you end
up with just splatters. But it's it's pretty pretty crazy.
I I took a look at what they what they
have to go through to get some of that done

(01:42:45):
on a on a machine like a CNC machine. It's crazy.
It's crazy. Highly recommend it. It's it ain't cheap, but
it's it's a great brush and it'll last you forever,
literally forever, made out of titanium.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
See that's the thing there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
If you're gonna do that and you can afford it
to get it, because in a long run, you're just
not gonna have the headaches and that's gonna last longer.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (01:43:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Well, like I said, it's one thing i've never I've
never done, so I'll have to maybe one day give
it a shot because the comments.

Speaker 7 (01:43:20):
Yeah, yeah, go for it, Greg, get it. Get a
shot at some point. I don't think you'd be disappointed
you don't get a you know, get yourself a little
small compressor with a tank on it. I think you

(01:43:44):
can find.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
I have a little one. I have a little compressor
for nail gun, for trim nol gun. So that'll work.

Speaker 7 (01:43:51):
Maybe a little noisier than you like, but well it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Doesn't bother me because I've done a lot of that
work in my life.

Speaker 7 (01:43:57):
Sure, Like I'm handcake style compressor or something.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
No, just a small tube like uh to pick it
up with your hand, And it's so you can go
around different rooms and do all the trim work around
windows and doors. You have an airbrush that you just
haven't You could combine it someday. But I can see
coming home and Ashley's in the room.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Just fill the paint, miss, I'm good. Yeah, So I
don't know you have to find a way to vent
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
And there's one room in U.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
Yeah, yeah that was where'd you find?

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
So out here they have a free once a year
where you can put all your trash to the curb
and the city comes by and picks it up. Regarding
So I come home and I could smell paint outside
the house, and I got in here and she had
went out just you know, rummaging through people's stuff and found, uh,
a box full of all this automotive paint.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
So she painted me and are boys.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
This whole thing is decorated with teams from different video
games and stuff, and it's I was like, how did
you not get like high in here?

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
The bookshelves is literally a giant American flag automotive paint. Yeah,
the whole group other than like the red splatters that
was the boys idea. They thought it would look like blood.
So she so this is all literally automotive paint that
we did.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
So I'm like, we were so missed up. It's awful
strong for paint. Let me see that. I looked at
the coun like, this is autobody paint, Like you're it's
not coming off, never coming off the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
So she had greens and reds and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Blues, blacks, silvers.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Yeah, because this one here is dead space.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Dead Space got prototype MW two, so you can tell
that's there. You go twelve years, I think.

Speaker 7 (01:46:06):
Ten years right right?

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
What the hell is the one behind our flag or
thing right there? Oblivion?

Speaker 7 (01:46:14):
I think I get really lightheaded working with the working
with like streaking grime and stuff, those enamels and things.
I can't imagine what a room full of auto body
like you said, if we move all those, it's a giant.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
The whole wall is one giant flag that she painted
and did a really good job. But my god, it
was you know, I mean you you're done. That's never
gonna where none of this will ever come off. You'd
have the primer or everything, and I don't know, yeah,
repainted all right, Charles, enjoy your dinner. Sir may Morma
says he used an airbrush to clean his keyboard. Does

(01:46:53):
that count?

Speaker 7 (01:46:54):
I mean a good idea. I need to try one
of the key crumbs.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Start there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
With the flag. The boys didn't want me to paint stars,
so we went up I think it was our local
dollar tree. They had like felt stars. Then I bought
like in the dark.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Yeah, they had all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Nice. You said I could paint the room. I'm like,
that wasn't what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
You also told me I could paint the liveryom. I
took our I think she was at what eight nine
years old at the time with us to pick out
paint and ended up.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
That's another one. I come home and the entire front
was pink. And I stepped outside and I'm like, is
this the right house?

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
You said? I painted whatever color?

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Why did you do this? It was all pink? Man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
I let her daughter pick and she decided to pick
the ugliest. Like I think it was called child's play.
It was like a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
It's a gaudy pink and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
She packed like for the like this room, fusha border,
It's like what she went.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
She and she had to go to Sharon Williams because
she couldn't him go.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Man, my sister took us.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
It was fifty bucks a gallon when everybody else had
twelve dollars gallon paint. I've outstroked when they oh, yea,
we use your your count down there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Because I had an account at Searon Williams for the
contract and stuff. I was like Oh my god, it's
you guys spent like three hundred dollars on that stupid paint.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
I don't know what the hell was she's we painted.
I painted over it after awhile, because I just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
We still have some of that pink if if you
pull up any of like our baseboards, it's still so.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
She started painting long before she painted minuture yet. Uh
here games. He still has his old PS one collection.
I'll never sell those games, hey, Nate, we I still
have my Tari twenty six and all those games and
it still plays. I have my Jaguar and yeah, tend.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
I think here and in that that sim park where
he did the park stuff. It's still saved all the
games from two decades ago.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
So they Yeah, dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
For Chris is here? O Jay.

Speaker 7 (01:49:11):
Oh hey, I just took a look at that walk about.
Thanks for the thanks for the heads up. I'm going
to look into that a little bit more. I I
haven't seen that before, so I'm gonna check that out.
Thanks for the thanks for the heads up there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
Yeah, thank you. You have another and we can talk,
you know, I do have my phone. No, see, can't
get away with nothing anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:49:41):
Now now I have another another channel to go take
a look at not Jay's tabletop gaming.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Yeah, go check his stuff out. He does. He does
a lot of stuff there too. He's a good guy.

Speaker 7 (01:49:52):
I'm probably confusing the YouTube algorithm right now because I'm
just like spamming subscriptions to all these channels.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Yeah, Nate's I'll share the story with you that I
shared with the others. But my boys one day were
because you know, guy got an Xbox I've been playing
Battlefield six, so they were they were talking about how
I hooked the Atari up and there looking at asteroids. Oh,
that looks easy, and I hand them the controller, like

(01:50:25):
what's the stick thing? I said, well, it sounds easy, right,
just don't let your little spaceship get blown up. Or
They gave up after a little bit. They were like
this is too hard. I'm like, but you play Call
of Duty and you first person shooter game. But they
could do that, and I said, yeah, it takes a
little bit more skill.

Speaker 8 (01:50:44):
Than you thought.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
They were. They were just thrown off. It's like kaboom.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
If you remember that game this guy's and you had
a paddle control.

Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
You turned and you had to catch all these little
you know things he was dropping with the fuse on.
I don't necessarily want to say the name, but you know, yeah, yeah,
they were like, how are you doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
It was funny because the grand kids that go over
there and they're like, hey, you're gonna play a game
with us?

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Do you even know how to play a game? I said, sure,
what are you gonna play? Mario Carteris, I like Mark
sat down and whipped their butts the first game. Well,
I've been playing games since I've been a kid. Okay,
I'm not gonna stop playing games.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
And gaming was harder back than Nates, and you had
to try to get scores and you only had one
quarter or two to try to beat other people's score,
so you had to make your make your mark.

Speaker 7 (01:51:38):
I have a Commodoreder sixty four downstairs. Oh yeah in
some games, and I have yet to fire it up
for like forever in a day, but I keep it
around because I, yeah, you know, like introducing the next
generation into you know, the some of the earlier you know,

(01:52:02):
games and hardware and stuff, I think is kind of
you know, it's kind of important if they're interested in
that kind of thing, you know, getting getting a little
history of it and like what was around at the time,
the cost of it. You know, it's it's a little
piece of history, you know, it's it's and it's like

(01:52:23):
part of culture too, you know, uh, kind of good
educating piece, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
Yeah, absolutely, because people and the kids, they don't realize
if it wasn't for all of us older adults playing
the games, they wouldn't have had what they had today.
If we didn't like it, nobody did it, then they
wouldn't have the same thing today. So it's just funny
how they think that if you get older that you
can't play games, right, you know, I mean, you know,
like Battlefield six?

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
Are you playing that? Well? Yeah, man, I mean you know,
what do you want me to do? Stop stop playing
games or whatever? Or oh I'm supposed to not paint
or not do this or that.

Speaker 7 (01:52:59):
Right. I've been looking for some good, like partial text
based games to play. I it was something I was
thinking about literally yesterday, but I've wanted to kind of
get back into some of those games where you get
like a picture or whatever and options to play it

(01:53:22):
off of. I can't remember I used to. I played
one a long long time ago, but it was, Yeah,
all text based kind of stuff like that, and you'd
get a picture every so often. I've been trying to
find some games like that that would be I think
that'd be like a lot of fun to go back
and play. There's so many great retro games out there

(01:53:44):
they gotta mess around with.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
If you go to a good will and find an
old Clecovision handheld football game where just on the screen, yeah,
and my sons would play mad and then they rage.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Even now my son's twenty and I'm like, he's getting mad.
I'm like, Josh, since you've been a kid, Madden has
rage baited you? What playing this for like a decade
plush you know, obviously, and Madden's a you know, pay
to pay to play. You gotta pay put money in
to get better players and stuff. And I'm like, uh,

(01:54:17):
check out this old game, you know, And he's like, well,
how do you play that? That's not I suggested this, Yeah,
little blip that's the ball going down the screen. So
there's a big difference. But well, boy, try to catch
up on some of these comments.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
He used to go an hour on a dollar, yeah
on quarters, go ahead. Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:54:38):
I was just gonna say we used to have some
of those handheld games and we'd put on the back
of the toilet. That's like, you know, some people's got
a newspaper or magazine or whatever. Little you know, dinky handhelds.
It's a lot of fun that and playing, uh, the
Legend of Zelda on the original, like like Green and

(01:55:01):
Black game Boy, the Green and Black screen game Boy,
the Big Brick.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Yep, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (01:55:11):
Switch to that's actually in the living room. I've been
playing the original Zelda and it's like, I'm suck.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
I can't get past this one spot. I'm like, what
the hell am that the bag? I can't get him?
He keeps knocking me off. My god, damn man.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
Yeah, she gets pretty vocal in games. Actually, I have
to like sometimes I should soundproof the room. I'm like, hey, now,
hold your voice down. The neighbors can hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
You know, yeah, you know. It's matures and Jay, it's
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
It was cool nice as he grew up with a
family of eight siblings, so ninety five when he got
a PS one for himself, it was a big deal.
It was we always had family systems, but the only
one for myself was the best Christmas ever.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Charles, Nate, you got another subscriber.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
Mate, you got another subscriber there.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
I already was described to Nate.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
So you gotta watch that too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
With YouTube, you guys, because you'll get unsubscribed and or,
like I said, your notifications are shut off, and it's yeah,
when you get some videos out, Nate, Well, it's you
just gotta do what you can do, is all.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
I mean. We already have a job. Of course, everybody
would like to be whatever, but I don't really care anymore.
It's just I get on here to have fun, hangout.
And our therapy shows are just kind of a joke
because we're not ever gonna try to get anybody out
of their addiction. We're just gonna encourage it. We're gonna
encourage you. We're not here to help.

Speaker 7 (01:56:42):
It's game gamer enabled ism.

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
But if we were it as therapy, it's more politically correct.

Speaker 7 (01:56:50):
It doesn't right. Yes, smart, very smart.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
It's something different, and it's just like your four one
K they really mean to invest in forty K.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
No, we're not.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
You know, your financial advisor will tell you that, but
then they don't tell you that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
The Warhammer stuff really yield bigger turns when you resell
it to.

Speaker 7 (01:57:15):
Right right, I mean, I mean think about it. We've
got plastic futures. We can go down, you know, we can,
we can take a look. We can make sure that
you're you know inside, you're invested in the different uh
you know, shipping companies to get that plastic where it
needs to go. We're gonna have your retirement right and tight. Yeah,
how I picture a financial advisor going down that train thought.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Don't don't give me financial advice because it doesn't really
work when you're poor. You're just like, hey, okay, we're
not the elite, so we'd like to loose have some
fun before we work to death and die, so.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
You may as well.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
And with miniatures, like I've said before, if there's a
power outages or storms, you can you can absolutely, you know,
play like I did a small one of Netcrons by candlelight.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
We played by candlelight when our power went out here,
and the Necrons were like going with that, and it
was like net Grons by candlelight. And I don't think
the hardcore community enjoyed that too much. Now, Yeah, I
was being funny with the but I thought it was
cool because hey, there's no power, you can still I
don't have I mean, I can't do my Xbox, but

(01:58:25):
I could still throw down tabletop game, right, I mean that.

Speaker 7 (01:58:30):
Yeah, I love that. I I make candles actually for
you know, for power outages and stuff like. I make
them here at home. I make them out of beeswax,
the kind of long taper candles. Yeah, I kind of
want to do that is maybe like just a like
a photo op or something that. So that sounds like

(01:58:52):
it was fair.

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
I just had because for in Iowa, you'll get sometimes
off days, you might lose power for a day or
two because of winter storms and tornadoes and whatnot. But
this was the duratio. We had nothing for. We had
no actual power for I want to say, right here
in this area, it was over five days. We didn't

(01:59:13):
you in fuel for five to seven days. You had
to literally drive fifty seventy miles away to get gassed.
So because the storm was seven hundred miles long and
it just wiped out everything. But you know, I go
camping a lot, so to us it was like eh.

Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
Okay, you know, and but but you could still play,
so you could do it for a photo op.

Speaker 7 (01:59:36):
Sure, yeah, yeah, I mean although like you're like you're
saying though, like these the games that you you payt
and play and board games and stuff, you can you
can do it anywhere, and it's it's it's pretty cheap too,
you know, compared to compared to other hobbies. I mean, yeah,

(01:59:59):
it's got to be got to be cheaper than you know,
lacrosse or a season of hockey or something like that,
you know, with all the travel that you do to
go to the games and whatnot, like you know, and yeah,
completely analog too. You don't need the power to.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
See the chat. See, everybody here is getting along and
subscribing to each other. They just having a good old time.
That's what gaming is supposed to be about in our opinion.
Right now, you could go to competitions and tournaments. I
think that's cool too, but at the core it should
be you just get to you know, get out there
and have fun with other gamers and everybody wants to win,

(02:00:37):
but win or lose, at least you get the game.

Speaker 1 (02:00:40):
It's it's not, you know, a terrible thing. So ny
here has picked up some subscribers. Don't forget to subscribe.
He's live to you guys, and but these are all
good people and we just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
Oh yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
What they At least we each have our own YouTube.
You get two subscribers out of one, I'll do the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
Her challenge just goes around some subscribitude to try to
help people out, because it does count, you know, if
you've got subscribers and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
And watch time is the hard thing. But at that
summer fault, because we just can't seem to get out
that that's our content that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
I told you. She's already it's six.

Speaker 3 (02:01:27):
You do it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:30):
You can just My twelve year old granddaughter wants me
to dye her hair, so I told her I have
to be after our show.

Speaker 7 (02:01:37):
Oh nice, okay, well what color is she getting? What
color is she getting?

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
She's doing a chestnut brown with like a burgundy underneath.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
So when you.

Speaker 7 (02:01:50):
Yeah, I can't do that. Her hair is right right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
Dishwater blonde with the same red eye do in my hair. Peekaboo,
thank you, thanks everybody.

Speaker 6 (02:02:07):
Yeah, thanks, so, but the red fade's too quick for
her and she's got brown like her mom, so she
went with a lighter brown, not a chocolate brown.

Speaker 2 (02:02:18):
What's what she wanted? Like, hey, you got blood eye brows.

Speaker 3 (02:02:20):
I just talk on me while you're saying this. So
even when she's not painting, she's painting someone's hair. Yeah, exa,
because isn't that like contrast You get it wet and
it just flows in there. No, you have to rub
it in there physically, yes, but it's still painting someone's
head face.

Speaker 7 (02:02:37):
No, you're you're putting color in there. Yeah, yeah, there
you go.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
Color is color, right, gotta have fun with it.

Speaker 7 (02:02:44):
Well, I won't keep you guys. He kicked me out.
When you're ready to leave her.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
If you want to hop off, you can't. We just
our shows. We sometimes we get off and after an.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
Hour, but if people are there and I want to
keep talking, we just sometimes we have gone four hours, so
you don't have to hang around. But we're glad you
you hop on and come by. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:03:02):
Well, you guys are great to talk to and and
you know, uh fun fun to hear about what's been
going on in your lives and what you've been up
to in the game space. You know, it's always good
to come by and check you out.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
We appreciate you too, so you're welcome. If you are
welcome to hop on whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
Oh you got another one? What looks like to you
so far? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:03:27):
Yeah, I think I'm gonna go here. And I've got
a couple of massive freaking book that I've gotta I
gotta go and get through, so I'll.

Speaker 3 (02:03:38):
Let you go with this live.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
You get your empt certificate so that when you take
a new.

Speaker 3 (02:03:43):
Person into a game's workshop, if they have a heart attack, boom,
you're right there to help them.

Speaker 7 (02:03:49):
Or or if after they make their purchase they check
their bank account, that's another big one you got to
watch out for. You get a lot of a lot
of sizars and you know.

Speaker 3 (02:03:57):
Falls well, realize this is four hundred dollars, you know
what I mean? So all right, man, Well, good luck
with all that.

Speaker 7 (02:04:06):
Well, bye Ashley, Bye Greg. Thanks for having me on,
and thanks for everybody in the comments section two. It
was great to see you, see you, see you guys,
and hear some opinions and some new tech and all
of the cool channels that I now get to go
and root around in for a while. So I'll see
you guys out there on the internet. But take care
and stay safe, everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:04:27):
YouTube that was fun, and all you guys, it's really
nice to see everybody just getting getting going. Charles says
his retirement planning with lots of bad golf. Now it's
poor painting, but good enough for me. Hexa counter games.
Deep down, I'm an orc man.

Speaker 3 (02:04:46):
Hey, you know what, Charles, You're retired, so just do
whatever you want to do and walk abouts.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Leave it, goodbye, walk about. Thank you for stopping by, sir.
We appreciate it. We probably gonna hop off to little
self for Oh wait, now Jay's got a little self promotion,
he says, check out his live show.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Wednesday Nights Day PM.

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
You know what, we're gonna try to get back to
where we can hop on there with you, Chris until sometimes. Yeah,
she doesn't got off to work till eight, so we've
been we have.

Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
I try to catch the ending up. Yeah, so the
time I eat and everything else, it's already done, so
I watch it after.

Speaker 3 (02:05:29):
It's all good though, all right you guys, I didn't.
I guess we have.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
Done two hours, so that's cool. But thank you and
Nate Spinachers. It was nice for you to show up too,
and all.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Of you, he was saying, by.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
Always say by the pain. We didn't know.

Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
It's all good, but yeah, we are probably gonna hop
off that way. You guys can finish off in whatever
you need and have a good rest of the week
or beginning of the week, depending on on.

Speaker 3 (02:06:00):
My iced coffee video. Gotta watch it save some money.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Well that's our neighbor.

Speaker 3 (02:06:14):
Big announcement on not Jay's channel. Yep, alrighty.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
Nate, You're very welcome, all right, guys, n anything else
you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:06:24):
Say anytime you guys, it's the end of the week,
so we always appreciate you ending our week and starting
the week with this is just fun.

Speaker 3 (02:06:33):
So we really appreciate all you guys. Thank you and
keep having fun gaming. Man, that's all you can do
next week.

Speaker 2 (02:06:43):
Bye,
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