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Speaker 1 (00:09):
What what is happening? We started two minutes early. Oh good grief,
Hold on just a moment there, everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
At least we're not late.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, we're not late. Welcome to another Sunday gamer's therapy
show where we for sure are going to help you
keep your addiction. We're just not here to cure you
from gaming at all. Never never never never never never.
I mean, yeah, that's what we're doing now. So and

(00:43):
for everybody listening on our podcast, thank you, thank you
for the comments. Also, I noticed that people are letting
us know it so many minutes in. Sometimes they're letting
us know what we were talking about. Is going through
defeat book? Seems like it's did you do that? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes,

(01:08):
all that's done. It just says it's starting on Facebook scene. Huh.
Will there we go? Hey Charles, how uh? How are
you sir? How are you doing? We're glad to see
you here. When we titled it, it's almost there. We're

(01:30):
almost there because it's almost a long weekend, the long
weekend coming up. Hey Keegan, it is plastic addicted nerds here,
he says, correct. We are all we are all gamers,
so we're gonna game game game, game game game right,

(01:52):
or at least try to. We did accomplish a game
this week and it is already up on YouTube and
we'll come out tomorrow morning. That's already set to go.
You're gonna have to see it because we'll have to
see if Ashley redeemed yourself or not. But we did
knock out a game of Alpha Strike, and then we
got set up last night the Trench Club that we

(02:17):
got a while back, which is World War One. It's
kind of cool bunkers and stuff that's got there for it.
So and to let me guess, hello, sir, how are
you what are you gonna do with your with your
long weekend? Come up? I don't know. I mean for
us it is our our offices are closed on on

(02:39):
the Thanksgiving yourself, I know you do work with medical
stuff where you're helping people, so well, I have it
off anyways and the following day. So it's like, yes,
I get a four day weekend and I'm gonna try
and enjoy that. I kind of need that to rest

(03:01):
up a bit.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Too much is too much. But AnyWho, we appreciate all
you guys and all you guys on a podcast again
thank you and thank you for leaving comments. And uh
had a really interesting comment on our last show. Oh

(03:23):
what is up with this? You know you think it
would be it's gone? Okay, so Tim says, four days,
I blink and it will be gone. Yes, tilmich has four
days and a blink, it will be gone. It's uh,
it's the only time of the year I ever, I'm

(03:44):
going to ever get any time off with this company.
So really, as far as just having some extra time
is nice to just kick back. So I would like
to get something done, although I guess we have so
possibly coming for the holiday or by the holiday, after
the holiday or after yeah, which you know, I mean,

(04:08):
who knows. Keegan says he only has Thursday off. That's
right in your line of work, though, Keegan, it's gonna
that's pretty much a twenty four to seven job too,
because mate, I wonder Keegan, if there's an emergency backups
and stuff, if they've got a crew that's gonna go out,
because boy, the company would make money charging on a holiday.

(04:30):
Oh yeah, and I mean you guys as employees would
make money too. I mean you can't make it, homeowners,
you're still out. I don't know, did you make it home, Keegan?
You left your lunch there, quite a bit of it,
so uh yeah, to let me guess that's just not

(04:51):
gonna take too long for it to go by. But
the good thing is the upside is, like I said,
we got to game in. We completed it, and it's
already set to come out tomorrow morning. So at least
that's one and we're going to start on this other
one if we can tonight, if things work the way

(05:11):
work out the way we think so, or then we're
gonna be trying to game with Keegan. Isn't it next Saturday? No?
Or Tuesday? Tuesday? I think we're going to be doing
a game with Keegan, a little bit of boarding action
or no, not boarding action. I apologize it will be Zombicide,

(05:32):
not boarding action. So trying to get some gaming in.
Keegan says he's still out and someone's always available. Twenty
four to seven, three sixty five. Charles says he's wearing

(05:56):
the Gamers T shirt and his youngest daughter likes it.
All right, cool, Charles, thank you. The Prince came out
really good on those Huh they're nice shirt. I like
I like mine too. They come out really nice and clean.
So I try to wear them when I go out,
like if I go to the store or I go
do something. Although now it's getting cold out here, so
you kind of layer it up. But they did come

(06:19):
out really nice, So thank you for wearing that. We
appreciate it. Their comfy shirts too. So oh man, And actually,
I think is over here eating carrots and you tend
to take this a snack time huh And yeah, that's true.

(06:39):
I guess. I mean, isn't coffee as snack to you?
I never thought about that way. I thought of coffee
as more of a treat or a necessity. Not not really,
you know, I mean not whatever. Okay, Plemicus says. One

(07:04):
of our company's competitors folded leading up to the holiday.
They doubled out over time. Oh wow, the orders coming
in our exponential Well that's it's too bad that a
company folded, you know. On the other hand, for you,
then if their failure causes more work and more more money,

(07:27):
then that's that's good too. And uh yeah, companies are
kind of going out everywhere, gets it. Brian's allowed to
eat on our show? Why can't I true? Keegan says,
can't let Brian be the only one to eat during
the show. Very true, Very true. I guess it's just

(07:50):
I'm sitting here in all heres Trump Trump Tump, tump tump.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You're just jealousy I can actually eat them.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, my teeth a shot. I really can't eat carrots
very well anymore. So, but then again, I'm not a rabbit,
so I like carrots. So good carrots is supposed to
be good for you. Oh wow, that company was mismanaged,
a couple of billion dollars squandered. Telemachus says, well, that's

(08:20):
what happens when they they don't manage money, or they
have success and they just let it fall apart. Charles
says he ate before the show, did you get more steak? Charles?
You were on a steak run there for a little bit.
So well, yeah, squandering money doesn't doesn't help much, thankfully.

(08:47):
I've just been too poor to have to worry about
squandering billions of dollars, you know, So it helps. It
helps keep your perspective when you're like, how do I
pay the light bill and get to the next week?
You do tend to try to manage out what eager
means you have coming in and stretch it, and then

(09:10):
there's people that just waste money. So Keegan has just
ate a little Debbie Christmas tree tree. All right, Kegan,
didn't you have enough of those? Didn't you? Guys put
a bunch in a bowl and blend them up to
make a like a dip for the vanilla way for cookies,

(09:32):
which assholes em invite us over, which is a ton
of calories but probably flavorfully good. No, Charles didn't eat
steak this time, he says he has pasta and soup. Okay.
I actually tried a new recipe today that involved that
thing in the kitchen with the knobs. I told her
that thing in the kitchen knobs is the stove and

(09:53):
when you turn it, it comes on. And then it
was kind of interesting, like watching those older movies you
jump back and go oh fire, and I was like, yes, fire,
it's okay. I'm sorry, she's gonna smack me online.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I'll wakes laughter.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
There's no proof. Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Anyways, if next week, last time I did that while
we're online, meet those took it.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, well that's because you said I don't never smack Greg.
He captured it. So Keegan says, no, his kids had enough. Yeah,
I never had it that way, but I see her.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's good you do it with.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Now she can cook on a stove. Keegan says, I'm
gonna fire no rocks.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
You're the one that's older than dirt. Don't even start
that ship.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh I know, but when they invented dirt, that was
a good thing. Walking on lava and stuff. They even
made a song. I think Danny Go does that the
floor is lava, but I already so, you know. So, yeah,
I actually made a dish today that come out pretty good.

(11:12):
I found it on a channel just going through, you know,
and they throw up a recipe and you're like, oh man,
that that sounds good. So it was you want to
describe your culinary just today. I didn't insult you. I
was just having fun. It wasn't an insult. And it's okay,

(11:34):
it's okay, you're you're safe kind of. And everybody's afraid
of fire at first, but you can control flame. No,
I'll just shut up on my head. Yeah, so yeah,
it was a pretty good. It came out really good.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And now, boy, butter like a little Zadia bake, I
guess or because finds me of like a little bit
of spicy like.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Alfredo. Yeah, but definitely a little bit of spicy or
darker and homemade bread with homemade garlic butter. So I
actually can't cook. I'm just giving her a little bit
of love, that's all. And she hunkers down chewing a carrot,

(12:27):
you know. I mean, see, that's the interesting thing there.
I try to stay to the right of the camera
so I can see what she's doing. I Wolf, Charles says, Gregg,
be nice to Ashley. I suppose says, hello, carrots. I
hear the color is Dutch orange. Yeah, Dutch orange. Yeah,
that's that's Ashley's got a bag of those baby carrots

(12:48):
sitting over. Don't have a big bag. I didn't say
a big bag. I said, you just had a bag,
like you're taking this from the baby. Oh what No,
now you're just you're just adding to it. Yeah, but
the color is Dutch orange. That that would work. How

(13:10):
are you doing, ice Wolf. We got a game and
it'll be out tomorrow. There's a guest appearance on the game.
That's all I can say. And Ashley's just shaking her head.
But the new game is up, so some Trench Club
World War One, which looks like it would be interesting, right, Ash,

(13:34):
I Astley believe she can win, so i'mber one on
the other ones get closed on you.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Also, I'm freaking beatn no, yes, no, you won some games,
so it's it's it's just the game. I didn't do
it when we were up, but anursery at the cabin
I did win that game.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, that was really nice of that place to have
left the game on the table just waiting for us.
I'll bet a game. I remember that. Keegan says, Greg
is always nice. It's Astley who's mean. It's just a

(14:15):
little fun. You gotta have some fun right in this life,
even if it's a little tiny bit. So I wonder
on the podcast if they're how much they're gonna hear.
Icewell says the carrots were bread, orange and another lands

(14:35):
during the seventeenth century from older white and purple stock.
That's interesting, so that carrots used to be white or purple,
kind of like a cross breed. Yeah, it's yeah, why
they're so big, I don't know. A lot of our

(14:58):
food is high bred stuff, so they've changed a lot
of it. It's kind of interesting. There's a book out
there I see going around just tells you yep, you
thought this was natural. Noope, it was man made. And
you're like, oh man, I've been eating this, this and that.

(15:19):
It's it's just something they came up with. Oh wow,
i Will says he had the flu for a week.
Who he's better now, Oh wow, We're glad to hear
you're doing better, ice Wolf. They lots of people are
complaining online. I see of being sick for one to
two weeks at a time with whatever it is it's
going around. So it's uh, it's just it's rough that

(15:48):
this time of year too. So I'm glad you're feeling
better because the flu is not The flu's not fun
at all. Keegan says, they'll hear everything that comes out
of the speakers. Yes, I know. I'm That's why I'm saying.
I'm kind of curious, is to I wonder if it'd
be like crunching in the background, like ants marching, Like
the ants go marching one by one, hurrah, right, and

(16:10):
here's chump chump. So we'll see. I'll have to see
how it comes out. I'm sure somebody will say something.
Maybe we get it. They all know I'm eating to
carry oranges the national color ice Will, says Royal Prince.
When there is a Dutch event, we all dress up

(16:32):
in orange.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Oh, like Saint Patti's Stay here where everyone dressed up
in green.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, no, that's a holiday. His is a national color.
Saint Patty's Day is just a holiday. Oh no, Charles
says the flu it's been through everyone and it is
finally knocked on my door. I'll be careful. There's that
new strang going around that I just can't take it.

(17:01):
Take it easy, Charles, And uh, I mean, there's not
a lot you can do to avoid something like that,
but there's there's things you can do just to take
it easy and help your body get through it. That's
not fun being sick, for sure. Nope, nope, nope. Well hopefully,

(17:24):
oh you guys get to feeling better, and those of
you who aren't sick stay not sick. It's just literally
not fun at least. I know. I didn't waste my
money on carrots, which we had ranch. Yeah, you might
have had a difference there. My carrots was healthy til

(17:50):
I dipped it in five gallons of ranch.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
And everything's better with the ranch.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah something sure, be sure. So I don't know. Guys. Hello,
it's been a it's been a good week cross game wise,
so we accomplished something and that's a lot more than
we have been able to accomplish. And lately I've been
diging around with a little game on a phone too.

(18:17):
But I noticed something, well almost, I mean every game
you pretty much every game you download, you're only gonna
get so far unless you start spending tons of money.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's with any game on the phone now, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I know, I noticed that. So it's you're only gonna
get kind of annoying, and it's slightly, uh slightly a
misleading kind of game. It's like you're supposed to build
against you know, fight against zombies, but basically you're city
building and then you form with alliances and it's mostly

(18:50):
about joining an alliance and fighting other alliances in battles
every week, and it's not really have anything to do
with uh the zombies that advertise. Yeah, Ice Will says,
we go more crazy than the Irish. Just YouTube Dutch

(19:11):
fans and you see we party big. Well we'll have
to do that Dutch fans, huh, Ice Wolf, Well, you
know you, I mean a lot of a lot of
people like the party, so have some fun, just be
safe doing it as all. And then you got for
us out here the Thanksgiving holidays coming up, so it's

(19:32):
not really a party time. It's pretty much a sit down,
get full, fall asleep time. Yeah, that's where you gotta
try to be able to who can get the most
covers before the other one, or who finds the most
comfortas spot to crash. It's kind of a lazy holiday really,

(19:54):
just supposed to hang out and do nothing. Of course,
when you work every day you have office, there's stuff
that at home, so work twelve hours, come home and
work around the house, and you guys know, all that
goes nothing nothing to do with the job. You still
got everything else to do. So I don't think Greg's
going to be partying too much this coming weekend, but

(20:18):
definitely going to probably try to sleep in and get
some rest. Well yeah, even if I sleep in an
hour at least, there's better. Nothing but possibly maybe get
some more game. We're gonna try and I'll fill you
guys in on this little phone game a little probably

(20:41):
a little later once I get kind of a hang
at what it is. It's just I think I said
it's gotta do a zombies, but just it's not really
you building up characters to fight zombies. It's it's it's
alliance and it's a ance battles. Although that it's just

(21:02):
simply not what the game shows. So I can't upside down. Yeah,
I went upside down. I don't have the money to
just spend, spend, spend some of these, you know, while
the packs are fifty bucks at a time or ninety
nine dollars, and I see people behind them, and that's
great if you got the money. I'm just like I,
I can't throw down three and four hundred dollars a week,

(21:25):
you know, on a cell phone game or any game
at this point, three or four hundred dollars a week
will well stretching could go a long ways, you know
what I mean. So I don't know, guys, it's just

(21:49):
getting to the end of the year coming up, so
upside I want to kind of see what sales are
going on. If you guys know of any upcoming l's
on game stuff, let me know, do.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You really want them to say that, because you know
I'll look.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Well not if I use Keegan's credit card, right, Kegan
Keggin said something the other day about wanting to do
more with gamers and coffee. So we'll we'll start with
the credit card, Kegan, and we'll take it from there.
How does that sound sound fair? Just open up the

(22:30):
limit and actually we'll find something else. You'll keep it
within a few grand. It's not like it'd be too
terribly I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Even have to. We just turned, you know, find something
that you know, we know he would be interested in.
Plant the seed and he'll end up buying it.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Is that what you're gonna do? Wow? Mhm No, Keikan's
already going down the space marine rabbit hole to you.
So AnyWho, because on the side, I think will be
pretty fun, pretty fun to get get done this week.

(23:13):
Oh wow, Hello, Nagaway says hello over. I'm just popping
in to say hello as he is off to Zealand.
I'm taking in sleep long day. I hope you guys
have a weeked Thanksgiving. Hey Nagawa, thanks for stopping by.
Get yourself some rest. I hope your your holiday weekend
is a good one for you.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
We are gonna before he goes to bed, we're gonna
play World War One Trench Club. If you don't know
what Trench Club is you can look it up, but
that's the next game on the table there. So you
should be proud of us Nagawa because we got we
got the World War two version, ice will say, so,

(23:59):
can I not talk about Dystopian Wars. There's a big
four point update for a really nice game. Talk about
it all you want, ice Wolf. Absolutely, this gaming therapy
is just designed to help you stay addicted. We do
not offer any real help to get away from the
addiction here. It's just we don't. It's we call it

(24:20):
reverse therapy. You know they have reverse psychology, We have
reverse therapy. So yeah, talk about it.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
That game looks like it's Mexan steampunk kind of airships.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, ice Wolf, she's looking up now, is that what
it is? Talk away though, sir as she's looking does
look steam punkish on Dystopian War. Yeah, it is kind
of some cool looking stuff, not like our stuff that
we build today. Look at all this older stuff. Look

(25:03):
how interesting some of the other things are. Look at
how we build this actual Yeah, there's a painting guide
for the models. There's the models on the right. Steam
punkin ships, I schooll say, that's kind.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Of what Clinton has the one that we unboxed.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I don't remember now. I know we haven't boxed it,
but I don't remember that at all. Kinda oh, there's
your cracking. Look at that. I'm cracking. Actually that SI
looks like Occopus m with lasers. That looks kind of cool.
Actually is looking it up over here. There's so much

(25:48):
out there. It's crazy. It's just really crazy. Ice Wool
says from More Cradle first from Spartan and when they
went bankrupt.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, Sarten, I think this is the one that we
unboxed with Clint. It could be because there's the German aircraft.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah that is maybe. I'm that's sad. I should remember,
shouldn't I it's been a while now, it hasn't been
too long. Clint likes a lot of that stuff too.
I Smoll says it's really good because it's a bit

(26:38):
different from Fantasy or forty K and it looks a
little interesting there. Yeah, I thought it was called something
else though. Ash there's gothic, battle tech, gothic before that.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, Leviathan's the Great War on boxing, That's what I was.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, so actually I didn't. So Dystopian Wars looks good
because it was Leviathan the Great Wars that Clinton was
here with us on boxing, which they kind of do
look similar. Pardon me, they kind of do look similar.
But Dystopian Wars looks pretty cool. That's why I said,

(27:35):
I've said thousands of times, there's so many games out there.
It'd really be nice to just kick back and and
enjoy a lot of them, as we have that ongoing
problem of time, which is trying to get through what
we got. But I see they are doing like I

(27:55):
think it was Game Found. I was just getting ready
to let out returned to Stalling grad Z, which is
the Zombie Is team. I think I think it's not
going to be too too much longer from now, because
I was looking at that. That's an interesting too. You know,

(28:17):
so so many from Kickstarter and game found is really
picking up too. I know ite quite a bit of games.
Ice Will says, of course, I owned four complete Armies,

(28:38):
but I started collecting twelve years ago. Oh wow, rules
are free downloads and the company that took over really
upgraded the game. Now that's nice that the rules are free,
and so then for everybody out there, I mean, as uh,
these are readily available kind of models or do you
three D print them ice Wolf or can they just

(29:03):
probably find it's probably what it is. Well, three D
printing really helps a lot. We were gang busting out
the one page rolls. Now we're I don't really think
there's anything. Well you said they released.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, for yours for I gotta get that mind printed.
Which one my big ass t Rex that's like in
twelve prints?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh yeah, so big. It's like a Titan kind of one.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Basically, the head alone takes up my whole plate.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, that's that's giant. Then how am I supposed to
fight that my guys are dwarfs? Or would that be
for the more the upgrade of the current one page.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Army, Well, just like basically it'll be bigger than I think.
I thought that was your time, but no, that's kind
of like a take your big guy. Yeah, it's gonna
be like three times bigger than that guy.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's gonna be huge. Then. Yeah, so we've we've been
trying to keep up with all that. All our stuff
pretty much caught up on one page rules.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I mean, there's more that I can print for you.
But you really didn't want to go for the doors
too much. You just wanted enough to battle the rats.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I got plenty, I got enough to do that. And
then Iceville says they are from the UK, but here
in Europe, father, they're easy to get. But he doesn't
know about the USA. I don't know either. I would
have to. Well, honestly, we'll sniff it out. She likes
to look for stuff online and on gaining permission to

(30:50):
actually look up a game. Oh, stop that all the time. Yeah,
you can look and see for you know, if they
have the Dystopian Oh there's huge whaling games. Yeah. Oh,

(31:11):
they do have boxes of them. The rule box book,
that's an actual book. There's only ten bucks. Basically there you.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Go trans If they have fleets, those probably a starter box.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
They're not bad. Yeah, they look like they're running around
thirty dollars, U ask. Yeah, we can order them as well.
But that's from Whaling games. So there's a set. You've
got several pages of it, so looks like it's something
that you could get including But he said, like you said,

(31:57):
the rules are free if you want them. That's a
battle fleet set though. Yeah, I was just looking same
kind of how they have America, American, Bavarian, British, Canadian, Chinese, Egyptian, French,

(32:20):
Italian fleets, all right, more Russian. You've got a whole
bunch of fleets to pick from on them ice Wolf,
it looks like so quite the expanse on the game
there see it.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
They had like a starter box, but I don't just
do a do a ship battle, get one just yeah whatever.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Basically a starter box would.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Be out there. They're not bad. Thirty bucks get two
of them, pick aside.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
And basically that's what you'd have to do.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, So you like the way the game plays, then
I take an ice Wolf. If you've been doing it
for twelve years. It sounds like it's a something that's
fairly addictive to play. And you know how games go.
Sometimes they might kind of fade into the background a
little and then boom they come back out. Icewoll says.

(33:23):
He prints some of the mostly like the scenery, like
harbor and islands, and they sell hard plastic screws. Yeah.
That's what Ashley found is the actual box sets of them.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Battle up sets, the Rock battle Fleet.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Set battle Fleet sets. Yeah, these are kind of cool looking.
You'd want those Krakens at the laser beams, Yeah, you'd
want them that looks like an interesting one too. Then
that's what I'm saying. And some of the designs, the

(34:00):
way they're going with in games is been interesting to
see too.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm just hoping maybe they had like a starter set.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, I think what you do now, let me know
if you're wrong, ice Wolf, for is this one of
those just pick a fleet and then get the rules
in go on it. That's what it kind of.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
They have dragons, so there's looks like it's two different sets,
one in the sky and.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
One in the water. Yeah, is what it looks like. Ooh,
ice Will says yes, answering does he like the rolls
exploding dice? When you roll a six, you can throw
a new extra dice? Nice? So what if you I
don't know how many dice you'd roll on a given turn.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
But they have icebergs and glaciers.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, very cool. So those would for other sets too, Huh,
That's what I was thinking. Nice, Well, this is Wailing
Games calling mister Finch. Your wife plays a very large
order and we just want to make sure that it's
clear with you. What do you mean by large order? Well,
normally our US customers don't spend over you know, fifteen

(35:20):
hundred dollars. No, no cancel counsel. Well you would just
I would just get the fleets a fleet box each side.
They're not that bad.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, you just figure out what you want.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, Hey, many Warmut, Hello, sir.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I figured the mutt would be here eventually.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
You missed Ashley chomping away on some carrots. So it's
not only you that eats on our show sometimes, sir.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Sometimes he eats almost every time on our show.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, but I am vying because he's generally going places
we don't have, you know what I mean. Io says,
they have multiple starter sets with two small armies, but
you can buy one ship or a box of ships.
He loves all the big Zeppelins in the airships. Yeah. Yes,
we were talking about dystopian wars or many warm ass. Hey,

(36:19):
Johnny links their games, He says, what's up, peeps, Oh,
we were just chit chatting that we're looking forward to
the longer weekend coming up next week, and you're going
to be proud of us. Many warm I we already
completed a game yesterday and it's and it will come
out tomorrow morning on YouTube. It's already up and set
to go. So you you could see that see if

(36:41):
Ashley redeems herself. And the second aary game because we
did a game of Alpha Strike and then that's what's
coming out both and that's trash. Question.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
So this is one of the Russian sets three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven fifteen models for fifty five European.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, that's not bad. So Islo says, you need some players,
but in his group they have eight players. Mostly you
have one army. So is your are you doing land
battles see? Because what actually's looking at the sea battles there? Oh,
this has both. Oh that's got both for.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Fifty five yeah, oh wait, change currency.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
And many Warmont says he has the Hunt for Prometheus
starter set. Oh okay, it would.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Be seventy two bucks for this one. Yeah, that's not
that bad.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
The Richer Battleship set. Yeah, who would you want? I
don't know. I'd have to look through it. But many
Moremont says, you don't have German one. Didn't say that,
I said many Warmont says he's got the Prometheus starter set.
See if you can find out and see what's in
that one? Mm hmmm, I haven't seen Formetheus. I've gone

(38:04):
through them all. I Spoll says, the many warmot you
know your games. It's a super game. And Lynkster says
he just finished his unboxing video for BattleTech as is
very good. It'll be up soon. It's a great Alpha
Strike companion thing. Yeah, I would like to take a
look at that, Johnny. So when it's come up, you

(38:25):
can even let us go message me or I'll look
for it. Like I said, we just got done playing
Alpha Strike last night, finished it up, and many Warmont
says the models are superb. Yeah, we've been we've been
looking at the models and they looked pretty cool. They

(38:45):
got a pretty big steampunk kind of vibe going on,
so they look they look pretty cool. They're by no
means blanned, I says Land battles No, it's a bit
separate game, but we play the ships and the flyings. Yeah,

(39:07):
that's that's kind of what's all coming up here is
all the battleships, everything naval and then it looks like
you've got you know, air they are going on, so
looks pretty cool. Ashley is interested. I've just seen a
green thing pop up.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Did you add something to the cart No, Ashley yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Many Morema says the starter set he has has the
enlightened into Commonwealth Armies.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I can't find a starter.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Set Prometheus is what he has. You'd have to well
the rule. I bet many warm I can find you
a starter set. She's looked at all the box sets
that the.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Top, there's them, the one I found.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Ippo says that Sterginium Skies was the best starter box Sterrginian.
You don't have to look. Maybe other companies got it
to you other than she just happened to find it
at Wailing Games. And that's like lots and lots of it.
But they're the boxes are more like I think she's

(40:27):
looking for a starter box, something along the lines. Well,
it's a complete box that you guys know what I mean. Oh,
there you go. That's the CommonWell starters like the Russians.
It doesn't show me what else is there? Faction battle Fleet. Uh,

(40:53):
what you do is research that one. See you can
find pictures. So she's finding finding them quite quickly. So
it's a must be still pretty popular as well, because
they're they're out there. There's things out there to get

(41:14):
hit the beach. No, that's Flames of War which is
hit the Beach Box is a good set too.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Bold Action second starter box, and they're.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Just taking you off of different Is you gotta go back?
Oh yeah, that's everywhere. So AnyWho, so she's she is
pretty interested in that one. We have already have We
have like two naval maps too already, so you already
got Yeah, we have water maps. But Lenster says he's

(42:07):
on green Light, which is super faster internet. The video
is already up. Take a peek after the show. All right,
I will take a look at that after the show, sir,
you guys may as well check it out too. In return, Johnny,
you can check out our Alpha Strike video tomorrow. You
might find it interesting. Had a little bit of an

(42:27):
intruder guest host, so it'll be interesting. But ours is
not set to come out till five am tomorrow. Then
it'll pop up.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
So there's this one the Union starters that which I'm
assuming it's probably like America.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Tells you right there with Senna. Yeah, oh well that's a.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Long three seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, fifteen models.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Johnny says the mext a wonderful and that would be great.
Clinton was talking about that coming out to uh so
we've just been wondering how that is. So for sure
we will. For sure, I'll check it out, man, I'll
look at it. Yeah. I think Ashley is now trying
to figure out which side she'd want to be.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Huh, that's already a no brainer.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Leinster says, I did a game of Office Strike today
and it was pretty lopsided. Jade Falcons against ghost Bear.
I was deleting bears with passion. Yeah, are we we?
So I can't really give away how it ended, but
Ashley wanted to redeem herself on one of the beginning scenarios.

(44:00):
And they're all on sale.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
No oh, oh they are, my sheep, aren't they bye
a lot twenty to almost thirty dollars on each of
these box sets?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Oh geez? And so Johnny, So it just I can't
give away too much. But it was the scenario, and
it was lopsided because like my side was you know,
Atlas and war Hammer and some of the heavier hitting

(44:33):
max in that scenario and many more. Much says, are
you looking at armored clash that is the ten millimeters
land battles? Uh no, but we could look at that
armored clash, you said, she just keeps looking at the
Stopian Wars. Dystopian Wars. Hey, they're leinster Ice Wilf sub

(44:56):
to you. There you go, she's still looking at the
Dystopian Wars. There many warmont, so many warmont. We are
going to do a zomb side game.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Shut up, he's got a watch.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
We're not. I wasn't didn't even say anything other than
zomb side.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
It was a surprise.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Okay, so we're doing a zombicide game, and I'll leave
it at that. This week it'll come out. It's just
going to be unique, so you'll have to check it out.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I think what are we going to try and do that?
Tuesday or Tuesday night? Tuesday? I think Tuesday, after I
get off of work. We're gonna it's the same freaking game.
What armored Clash? Yeah maybe.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
It's just armies. Oh so like figures not ship.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah yeah, okay, so armored Clashes it's.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Your soldiers and tanks basically over ships.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Speaking ambicidelncers said, what did you think of the announcement
as Zombicide dead men tell Hotels. I haven't watched it.
I haven't seen that yet, but if Ryan said it
to us, I just haven't watched it. Yeah, that's sorry,
bad dad, But I think many were not saying it's
about time we were did a zomb side game. If
that's what you're commenting on, as opposed to Lincer's we're

(46:39):
gonna get where. It's about time. It's it's been a while,
we need to get it going. So yeah, that was
what Ashley didn't want me to say anything about to
surprise you with a zomb side game.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I think we're doing it. We'll be here, but I
think it what's Keegan's secondition.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I think it's gonna be in the streets. I believe, Yeah,
I might be on Keegans. I don't think it'll be
on in our box of Invaders. So we haven't de
saded yet.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I'll talk to Kei more Tuesday about it.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Either way, it's time to go one down.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I thought they already had a Pirate one.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Pirates and Zomba side fantasy or that wild west Leinster says,
and then many Warma said, OSMODI will make ze side awesome. Well, yeah,
they have a lot of good ideas on their stuff.
There many more. I haven't seen that, but that would
be cool. I Spill has answered your question. Ashley says,

(47:43):
Armor Class is the land version of Dystopian Wars is
the lem Dystopian Wars is ships in air, but they
have the same background.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
They have a World War two uh Man.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Woman says it's homicide World War two. I didn't know
they had a World War two zombicide. Leinster says, actually
it's Fantasy Flight Games and has it now under the
umbrella of ASMODI. Well, it's it doesn't matter. Fantasy Flight
Games puts out you know, good games too, so and

(48:24):
Leinster says, you were thinking of the Wild West version,
which was really good. Yeah, the one the train was
pretty cool. Clinton has that one, and the fact that
the train just moves right through the map is it's
pretty interesting. It was. That was a good one. Also
about World War Two. I think maybe many women wants

(48:44):
the World War Two's homicide. I don't see if they don't,
they should because of all the experimentation that started in that,
you know, I'm sure has really ramped up since then.
But that would be cool thoughsom beside a board game

(49:12):
by Guillotine Games, right, first second edition, keep going to
the edition. That's why I don't know sci fi Western
Fantasy Classic Latest updates. It says mission cards. There're all missions.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
There's three new missions there, you go as I see,
one was October thirty first, and the other one's were
November fourteenth, So just what seven days ago.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
One's a Western mission, yep, modern Western, modern. Well there's
some new missions, Okay, I see this one.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
This one's the October thirty first one is a Halloween one.
It's a hard mission. Sixty minutes, says six Revivers.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Leinster says World War two's office would be dust many
warm ups, no, no, no need to be World War two
and no weird war dust exactly. I agree with that
many warm up. It needs to be a World War
two themed but not dust. It needs to be it's
off the side.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Well, they have a Fort Hendrick one. I mean, I
guess that would be it's an expansion.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
There's all sorts of Washington d C. I think was
the one Kegan wanted.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
But well, I mean that's kind of let's see what's
in this one gonna be like military kind of.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Many. Warma says, if and when it happens, I believe
it would be one of their biggest sellers. Actually probably,
it probably will what's a Kickstarter, Johnny says, Unfortunately, it's
a Kickstarter. I don't know about unfortunately link sure. I
mean lots of games have busted out on Kickstarter, Boy Kickstarter.
It's used because people, you know, launch games. Look at

(51:10):
look at Uh, look at battle Tech. Pretty much nobody
really remembered it other than us older gamers. But when
they went, when they went and they launched Man, they
got mega money within the day. If they keep it,
hold on ash many, Morman says, if they keep within
the true World War two theam it'll peak the interest

(51:32):
of both action players, et cetera. Actually, it would peak
the interest of anybody that plays World War two games
because lots of them, lots of them like zombies. What
what one that expansion? Oh yeah, it's got down a
elo soldier zombies. Oh not comes with dice that have

(51:55):
bolt holes in it. That's kind of cool. New cars,
it's all military. Yeah, new figures and a time clock
night rules. Kick started hurts retailers. Johnny says, Well, it

(52:16):
might a little bit, but they got to be able
to get they got to be able to get it
launched too somehow, And it's better than traditional backing because
I think it. It gives them the ability to gauge
interest obviously, you know, as opposed to going to the
bank and saying, hey, I have an idea for this
twenty or thirty year old game and the banks go, well, nah,

(52:37):
we don't see anything, and then they probably kick starting.
It blows up and makes you know, eight eight million dollars.
Many women says, come on, guys, Ford Hendricks has been
a while. Catch up. Yeah, we're not zomba siding. He's
Zombie's back. Yeah, so many women's kind of have a
fun with us. He's known about it for a while.

(52:59):
We didn't know about well.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
We haven't seen anything from his channel on it. So
oh so I'm assuming because it's an expansion, you have
to use what the second edition.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Is? That what it is, Brian, I actually wants to know, Brian,
do you that expansion would work when with our stuff?
Or no, I want to work with ours. Ours is
out of space Leinster's Yeah. Fort Hendricks has shooters, they're
bad news shooters. Zombies would be that would be cool.

(53:38):
I guess our lives are just too busy, man. I
talk to people, and everyy I'm like, yeah, I didn't
know about Fort Hendricks. But that looks like a pretty
cool I.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Say, this actually looks pretty cool because you have to
deal with nighttime too, So I'm assuming it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I did upload a customer yesterday. Maybe pay attention before
you speak, Ashley of.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
This one.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
We'll have to look and see I didn't get notified.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I didn't get notified that he did. Now I gotta
go look and see make sure it didn't delete it.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
M m hmmmm. Where he would be up there under
the bell.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I'm described, just says custom.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Oh that's the four Hendricks.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Is this for Hendricks, then.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
That's kind of what it looks like there, custom mission.
Click the bell, click the bell, he says, yeah, the
bell is clicked. Uh, she knows how to opera. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
This isn't for Hendricks.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
He has a custom mission.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
That's a custom mission. That's not Fort Hendricks.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Oh yeah, her bells. The bell is clicked. I mean,
and it's on all and notifications are on all.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
But that's not fort Hendricks. Just because you did a
mission doesn't mean it's this mission.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah. Oh good grief, he says. I can't I can't
win Leinster. Nope, you can't. You just can't, sir. There
there you go.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
It's it's all Johnny.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Johnny's gonna back him up. Gotta have some fun, man.
Well now, uh Leinster says he was treating Fort Hendricks
earlier this year. Well, you guys, I guess we just
got more catching up to do. But interestingly enough, that

(56:12):
Dystopian Wars looks interesting too. And given the fact, like
I said, we got naval maps and stuff, then I
could see you doing that with having to buy any extra.
Although now Ashley's looking at which they make so many
zombicides many Warmont and Lindser know all about so many.

(56:37):
Warmont said, actually, just go to the zombicide site. You
could pick out custom missions from any engineering zombicide White Death. Yeah,
that's back in the medieval days. And the Frozen North
says he didn't see it either, and yes he has

(56:57):
the bell on him. I'm trying to tell you there
are times we.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Don't we don't get notified when you guys.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Right, I've had to go back and double check. So
I don't know, not on everybody. It just every once
in a while it kind of does that. I don't know.
But again I'm not the only one that's complained about
that one on YouTube ice wolfiz see he has the
bell on. It doesn't still didn't matter?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Is it Black Plague one? Right, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
No, there's your Resident Evil board games that you never bought.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah, that's why I can't.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh wow, yeah, one hundred and forty dollars, but you
get free shipping.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I just can't, I know, because then you had to
buy all the expansions and everything else.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Still waiting on the ongoing Star Wars five parsek mission says,
and did you not know about White Death? I don't
think she did. I've heard about that one. Me and
me and Keegan have looked over a couple of them.
But I'll be honest with you, there's so many Zombi
sides we wouldn't know every single one. I mean obviously.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
So now the Cowboy ones, yeah, there's three different ones.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Well that goes with the.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Dead West Gears and guns and undead or what the
hell is the other one?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Undead or alive? Yeah, that's the one thing that was
pretty cool. Yeah, the Western one was pretty cool. It
was it was pretty deep. So if they if they
could do something like many more months talking about that's
World War two themed. It's you know, like you could
have like Nazi zombies because everybody knows that they you know, yeah,

(58:54):
I'm sure it hasn't stopped before anybody tells me. I know,
I'm sure they haven't stopped trying to bring back to
dead Somewhere some where. People are continuing to doing these things.
But it's one of those little things that came out
of World War Two that would be great to run with.
That's what we have. Uh Many Warmont says he asked
to get Hellhound uploaded first. He kind of fell into

(59:15):
the solo RPG rabbit Hole lately.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I still got to finish paint them my urban uh
abominations Amina all that painted.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I got hundreds of them Figure one. Yeah, the RPG
rabbit Hole Wolf can take you away from the Warmut.
It's time consuming. Leinster says, you want to know about
Zombi side asked the guy who three hundred custom titles
for the game. Did you have you done three hundred

(59:51):
custom titles for the game, Johnny? I know, generally we
asked Many Warmut because he's got like a garage full
of that. He's got like a score full of omice
I did. Uh, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
It's the Mexican bad guy. No, it's the only I
can remember. It's uh, it's an urban legend from Cooper
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Now I can't think of a damn name. Anyone of
us says. Oh, yeah, I redid the YouTube membership too.
I dropped the price to the lowest level. Is that
why I kicked my membership out? Because I have a
notification the other day I was gonna ask you about
the Trooper or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah. Whatever, that's the only one that's not painting. Everything
else is painted.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Oh, Johnny has all his titles on his Patreon, the
only patreon. I think. We're subscribed to one page Rules. Yeah,
we know that nobody would subscribe to ours, so and
then we just quit. And I subscribed one page Rules
because we get freemantures out of it every month all
the time. Yeah, it's a crocodile. Yeah, that's the crocodile one.

(01:01:13):
It made it look like it. Yeah, here, you already
showed those off. I believe that, remember, and it would
not be under this flight anyways to be able to
see it. Yeah. So that's a lot of titles there, Johnny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
He find for black light pate for him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Okay, black my paint. Then your mind just kind of
goes off to the side.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Well, I'm looking up this stuff and it happened to
pop up. Do you remember how much I paid for this?
It was on sale from him?

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
That one was cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
It was like ten bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
It was like five or seven bucks. It was so
ridiculous it was worth buying fifty. So yeah, so she's
pretty much got all tho Zombie side stocked stacked down there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
That's literally all ours homicide.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
That's all under the flag, and all that is all zomeraside.
So underneath the flag is all our Alpha Strike.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Alpha Strikes under the flag, that's all z Homicide, all
war that's books and miscellaneous. The whole top over there
is all Warhammer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Many Norman says. I hope if I get any members,
I will use them for my RPG play and other games. Well,
that's cool. I was a member there for you. I
was a member for you and a couple of people there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
All you can do is try them any warm up.
It's it's interesting because sometimes the membership stuff works great
and sometimes it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I'm for us. We're kind of giving up on any
of that, just because I'm like one of those people
that I can have a neighbor that say sells, like
you know, stuff you can sell from them, and they'll
talk to their friends and family and everybody will buy.
I show my friends or family and it's like, no,
I'm not gonna help you get rich. You're not even
gonna get rich. This one's kind of cool. Your message

(01:03:20):
got deleted, Leinster. I don't know if what oh YouTube
will censor the hell out of anything. Okay, I gotta
stop looking. Yeah, says he supports two Patreons he changes
every six months. There's some good ones, and with a budget,
you can only support two. That's true. And that's the
other thing these days as a budget is there's more

(01:03:43):
people I wouldn't mind supporting, but I can only support
a couple, So I just do that. Patreons the only
Patreon I've supported. Wow, it's a I don't know, Ashley,
it's but like I said, I do get I actually
get a return on it. With whatever STLs. They got

(01:04:05):
so many STLs not of print if we wanted to
print them all that you getting your money back. Complete
army and that stuff, so oh, you'll be saving money. Yeah,
and also maybe Woe brought up another thing to believe
channels it off for a membership or Patreon should stay

(01:04:25):
true with their perks. You are correct. The problem is
is you remember, like a Patreon, you gotta stay up
with the perks. For us, we did give it a shot.
Everybody told us to try it. We never got any members,
so we just you know, dropped it. We had some
things we were going to do to be exclusive just

(01:04:46):
to Patreon members, and we thought we had a good idea.
But you know, if nobody joins, no one joins. And
even if it's you know, you can lower your price
to whatever, but if no one joins, they don't join.
So the only reason I have a patrio our membership
now was to be is now. It's just so I
can pay the one page rules.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
People Yeah, and say we have so many models from
them right now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Leinster says he keeps them pretty cheap. Is about three
dollars a month to all his titles and future titles.
That's pretty cool. Many mom says nice, and you just
have to punt them. That's good. So that was the Patreon,
Like I said, one page rules is has benefited us.
So there's a few things we've tried.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, one Rules goes and does discounts off and on
where it's almost up to seventy Yeah, you got sometimes
I've gotten some of their stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yeah. So unfortunately we couldn't support a whole bunch of
people anymore. We try to do what we can with
charities and stuff too, but right now we're just so Johnny,
you talk about your store a lot, and you know
how it is to get a store going. So for
our gamers with Coffee, Dot Shop, shameless Plug, we're just
trying to get it to where it maintains its own

(01:06:06):
monthly bill at this point. So at this point we
never have made a profit. There are some cells here
and there, but it's not enough to pay the what
it costs every month to do that. However, we've just
been kind of hanging in there and seeing if it
would change. If not, then you know, at least at

(01:06:28):
least we gave it a good honest run. Generally, it's
suggestions we go off of, and that's why we kind
of built it. I mean, gamers with coffee, so we
went we found coffee. Unfortunately, the economy is a little
tight people are gonna, you know, try to save money
on coffee. We just don't believe in selling junk junk.

(01:06:50):
I mean I don't. I just my name's attached to it.
So you know, that's it is. You get what you
what you pay for, and that's about it. I need
to get back to one page rules. Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I didn't know it told you that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
What is that someone scanned your Yeah it does. I'll
tell you if someone scans it. It's nice. I didn't
know that. It's been a while. One page rules is
my favorite tabletop man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah, that's another one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
We got to mister Minnie Wormont because of you saying, Greg,
You've got to try one page we have and we
have printed out armies and so they are a nice
rule set, and there are many nice rule sets. It's

(01:07:43):
it's been very fun game wise to play. I know
you think I'm just a forty K family. I'm actually
I'm not actually a forty K family like that, because
I'm just I'm into all this other stuff. So the
rules I like, and I like my Human Defense Force
that I printed out. I like the way it flows.

(01:08:04):
It's a it's easy, and so yeah, one page rolls
is way easier than to understand. Oh well, but yeah,
but see that's why I different you a little. You
better understand some of that before you and then when
you do you if you were just a newbie. It's
one of those you need a little help with. But
it's way easier. Johnny says, I need more exposure, that's

(01:08:28):
what's needed. Where much says you are a forty K.
It's okay. We all have shortcomings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Hey, hold on, didn't he just go back to forty K?

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
I don't know. Yeah, you're doing black templars, aren't you?
So anyway, I'm not please anyone listening. I am not
a hardcore I don't know like mythos would know more
about it, Jeff than I do. But yeah, I have
a lot of shortcomings. Hello Jeff from hex to he,

(01:09:00):
how are you sir? But yeah, Johnny, that's probably true.
I do. I do need more exposure. But I don't
want dare say that to Keegan because his idea of
exposure would get me banned and uh boom, actually just
got a forty K response about one page rules. Yeah,

(01:09:26):
I don't know. It's its own creature there, man. In
that category. I'm just not an expert in it by use.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
My warhammer stuff on one page rules.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yeah, she uses her tearingids and on one page rules.
How I get pulled into that one?

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
He's the one that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Won't use the smurfs. They're not smurfs.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Says he's okay, Giant Blueberry.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Is that better? That's heresy speak that way. Uh, just
says he's still chicken. Well that's good, Jeff. We're glad
you're still kicking man. Glad you're still putting out games.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
And yeah, I just saw him like live the other
night when I was at work, him and Todd.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
See actually watches you see that, Jeff. See she says
she did, but she says she's not interested in that stuff,
and she watches you at work.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Say, I'll let it play while I'm working.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
And many where. Much as Battle Brothers are better than
space rings, you know what they are, I have to
actually relook at them again because when it first come out,
there wasn't there were no models. There were no models
for me to print or do. I still don't think
there's any model. If we can print them, then most
definitely I'll do that and I'll just have a Battle
Brother set on a human defense for us because with

(01:10:42):
our cheesy printer, I could afford to fifteen bucks for resident.
It's not like it is expensive now, Oh yeah, I
will forty K with all the rule updates and new
models which are over priced, he says, and many more
rules that don't play it anymore. So we played forty

(01:11:04):
k occasionally, but mostly if you watch it's like boarding action,
and it was before that mostly kill team. What would
so just second so kill team Battle Brothers. It would
just be I know it doesn't work that way. It's
either fantasy or sci fi.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
I'm assuming sci fi.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Jeff says, you're you're a superstar, Ashley. But yeah, so
forty K. The models are overpriced. Nobody nobody disagrees with that,
and it is complicated. I've said a million times I
would never just take anyone that has never played any
kind of tabletop gaming and throw them into that because

(01:11:47):
it's just it's overwhelmed you. And that's what I like
about one page rules is you got you can take
that same concept that simplify it. So yes, one page
rules are far easier. Oh many, Warma says, I do

(01:12:07):
have Battle Brothers. They are painted blue. No, no, no,
those are space. My mind's not going to separate if
any warm. I tried that. I literally tried that, and
I was like, I can't do it. I can't substitute that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
They do not have Battle Brothers. They have Blessed Sisters.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah, which is which is like, yeah, the Sisters, I
think because I'm looking one other player.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
This whole.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Lawsuit thing that Games Workshop is doing, and I don't
know what the outcome of it is, but you know how.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
That is human defense force. I mean you can use
the hum Yeah, Blessed Sisters.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I think the Battle Brothers were something they pulled off
because all that games were shop law huge stuff. Because
anything that remotely looks like them, Game Workshop is gonna
sue you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Yeah, because I believe they actually looked kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Like he goes, you are a forty K here, get out,
Get out now, blue boy. Hey, I like the color blue.
I'm only forty kre That'll play a hex and counter
Game two then and then I play you know, it's
on the side and everything else, World War two two.

(01:13:30):
Forty cares, man, They're there. That's that's just it. They're
forty K and nothing else they used to have. But
I'll betch that. I don't see they're not listed anymore.
Many Moore they used to have a little thing for him,
but wasn't an Age of Fantasy. That's what they were in. Yeah,

(01:13:50):
grim Dark, Future Dark grim Dark in there, pull it
down the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Battle Brothers blood Yeah, Dark Brothers, Night Brothers was Wolf Brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
That's like all that stuff. Yeah, click that one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Whoa hold on because at the bottom they usually have
your s cls that they do not have.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
To models and maybe basically yes, so I can use
my homicide in Vader Survivals is Bowder Brothers. Yeah, they
do not have any of the brothers and the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
So that's they basically took it where you can use
one page or Warhammer models.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I still say those games works up started with agesI Sigma,
all names and races changed, the strange name. No more
Dwarfs or elves. So yeah, Leinster says battle Tech, Gothic,

(01:15:08):
the grim Dark universe and control on forty k and
Jeff is a miniature painter. We welcome you, Jeff with
open arms and the painting miniatures. I've seen you've been
doing that. But you know what, that's all good. We
just need to get together sometime and do just a

(01:15:29):
live game of whatever you guys like we Off and
On used to do in the past. That would include you, Jeff, Johnny,
anybody listening, Ice Wolf, all you guys, Charles. Although I
think Charles might have left, Charles wasn't feeling too good
earlier many more months, so hopefully he's feeling okay. What

(01:15:54):
you got there, that's all the basis for him and rulers.
But I don't think they have any miniature STL files
for one page rules, not for Battle Brothers, not for
Battle Brothers. No, there, Charles is still there. Hello, Charles.
We're glad you're still there, man, So we will have

(01:16:19):
to I mean, I guess I can look through the
rules on that, but I already got I'm still stuck
with the printer thing. It's just gonna have to wait
till I get a new printer. At this point, everybody's
trying to help, man, and so it just doesn't it's
just not it's just not going to connect. So it
could just be the printers just took a crab, you

(01:16:39):
know what I mean, and there's no good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Well then you can't connect it just wired either.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Because it's forcibly a wireless one. Jeff does have a
YouTube channelized. Well if it's hext to hex yeah, so
go you could go sub up on him. Charles is
writing bills. He's got to cry and emoji. All of

(01:17:06):
us adults, we know that bills suck. Let's see something here,
don't what.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
The hell.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
There? You are? What you're doing? Ash? Yeah, it is
literally at hex two Hexy you can find it. If
you can't find it, Ice Wolf or any of the others,
I'll put a link in there in there for you.
So yeah, I'm a strange forty kre I guess at

(01:17:48):
heart I'm a World War two player. We have a outer, No,
he says, just get a wifire outing for twenty dollars. Yeah,
it's I only have what the cable company came out

(01:18:09):
and gave me, which is their top of the line
stuff that I can get in this area because I
want the live stream always to be going good. Other
than Facebook fighting me. It goes everywhere else I wanted
to and I have no issue. But it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Says when I talked to HP, they said that we
have too much internet.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
I've never heard of too much internet. If it's that
strong in the house. I need to I need to
cover it up with something because I don't want to
be sitting in there next to it. There you go, Jeff,
I will found it x text and he subbed to
you very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
He changed his profile picture.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Yeah, nice change on that. It looks like a bolt. Now,
the bills don't suck having a bad a couple of
weeks as all. Oh yeah yeah sometimes, Well wait a minute,

(01:19:15):
are you're talking about what are you talking about bills?
I'm talking about writing bills like Charles trying to pay
your bills? Yeah, they suck. Every first of the month
when you go, I want my paycheck to go for this,
it has to go for whatever. These bills are gotta
love it though. We're allowed to go to work and
allowed to pay for everything that we need and we're

(01:19:36):
allowed Yeah yeah, it's just yeah, well, there you go, Jeff.
At least you got a sub there, and I think
Johnny got a sub so yay, awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
What you Oh yeah, yeah, he did ASL fourteen last night.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
So I actually said you did the ASL fourteen last
night that she was watching you. She looked up Jeff,
So so there you go. You tell Todd too, that
secretly and actually watches you guys, I just let him play.
I'm letting him get a view. Oh well, but that
means you're interested. You don't want to admit it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I play X games. I just don't play with cardboard.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Oh you're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
It's still X games.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Oh you're talking about the Bills. Let's there, Yeah, the Bills.
I don't know. I apologize you, guys. I just don't
follow I don't follow football anymore, have not for quite
some time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Isn't the Bills?

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Basketball? Todd and Ross played, uh him and Camp just
color commentated. Oh, I actually said. She just lets it
play in the play in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I can't really go and get my phone doing dishes
and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Does anybody else here? I can't have it out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I have a headphone.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Yeah that might be that might be interesting. But yeah,
there you go. Well, okay, I think I got all

(01:21:24):
the comments there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Back to the printer I as well. If I just
I'll just find a printer that's gonna work with all
of it, because everything is going to all this so
many more months, all I might bust out German Town.
After watching the PBS American Revolution series XT text says,

(01:21:50):
thank you, Ash. We're going to every Saturday at eight
pm Eastern something different each Saturday. That's cool, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Because it pops up like six pm.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
That's cool. So I'll try to give it a shot too.
I mean, that's all you can do. Try something different
and see and just have fun with it. You know.
That's that's all you can do. But then, Jeff, you
may want to watch the little video coming out tomorrow.
I think it's like ten minutes, twelve minutes. You're not
very long tomorrow the Alpha Strike when we did and

(01:22:22):
see if actually redeemed herself. Yeah, it comes out tomorrow,
mean more much. So it's funny how you upload a
totally different game on your channel and subs drop. Yeah.
I've seen that where it'll go up and down, you know,

(01:22:44):
in a month, by ten or twenty. I don't really
worry about going up that because it's still steadily kind
of games. But yeah, it just depends. I mean, if
you're that's why we don't like, we don't set ourselves
to one.

Speaker 9 (01:22:58):
Yeah, And that's kind of a curse and a blessing
at the same time, because if you if you stay
with just one set of game.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't get your
loving wife into it. True, now you have to pay
for two different things.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
True, that's true. But I mean, you know what I'm saying.
If you stick with one and you focus on one,
you're probably gonna get a bigger following. But on the
other hand, I would miss out too much on gaming.
I mean, you guys, Brian likes to joking about forty
K but actually that's the least of the games that
I play. I always have to go back to the

(01:23:37):
rulebook just to play a game, so I don't do
it enough to act and hex Hex says he had
a WiFi issue with his the other day. Ended up
changing the password to the two point four gigahertz and
cured it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
They tried changing, they tried, and would Helitt Packard tried
changing everything internally on the printer and on our Wi
Fi and it still would not do it. So I
think I'm just done playing with it for the last
two months, and I need a printer for this stuff. Anyways,
So many warm up says it's like, shame on you

(01:24:15):
for playing a game I have no interest in. Yeah,
sometimes I wouldn't let it get to you though, many
warm up because I just look at it as you know,
I mean, you're a gamer and you have a garage
full of games. You're gonna gain different things, and people
are either gonna follow you because they want to or not.

(01:24:37):
So like with us, we're happy with all of our subscribers.
We're glad that people stop by the podcasts actually get more.
I get a little bit more feedback on that, and
sometimes I think, well, it would be nice to get
more comments on our YouTube stuff. But you know, it
doesn't matter there as long as people watch and thumbs up.

(01:24:57):
But that helps a lot. Oh yes, hex he says,
you're talking about or a paper printer, get an absent
eco tank, best of bestment ever made. That's what I
was looking in actually been looking at those, and I
think the eco tank will be the way to.

Speaker 8 (01:25:14):
Go, because I I mean, you guys, I think are
the ones that actually will work on the five.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Whatever Mega hurts or whatever it is, five G and
all that, which I didn't really want five G. There's
there's enough problemology, but now they force you into it,
so now you just kind of either you have the
Internet or you don't. But the eco tank is what
we were looking at, because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Someone else said to look into the eco A.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Lot of you guys, but you know what it is
if you want to print a PDF or whatever. I
don't always need a printer, but then when I do,
I need it to work. And of course we do
our taxes and stuff line. So, uh, tax season's coming
up here, not too far away, so I want to

(01:26:06):
get my printer done for that too. Yeah, we need that.
So think it's just an eco tank is the way
to go? Yeah, the EPSOM eco tank.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Well, this one is the et is the one I'm
looking at right now, which isn't a bad I Will says.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
The printer is on a two point four giga Hurts network,
but their new modem is only five. So new Wi
Fi modem that's two point four is the cheapest way.
Just plug it into the five Gigaherts modem and create
a network. Okay, Many says, I'm off to take a
shower of the wife says I stink. Then you finish

(01:26:44):
your maps a bust out of solo RPG. All right,
yet to even do that? Take care, man, take care,
thank you for coming by. Yeah hecks, Jeff says, I
only allow my cell phone and TVs on five G
printers three d's and regular and two fourth. We we

(01:27:06):
tried to change it down. It just didn't. According to them,
it wasn't working. So I'm just frustrated and about my
My only solution at this point is that's a good idea.
I will except for I don't. I don't. I don't
know if it'll work. I may as well just get
the other printer because if I go buy that, I

(01:27:29):
don't want a Wi Fi in Yeah, I got plenty
of ports on this because I use my desktop for
the streaming stuff. I don't the laptop. I do. You
guys know that when we go like the coffee shop,
the game, or we hang out, uh and travel, will
use the laptop. But for the show and about everything else,

(01:27:50):
I use the desktop because it's it's just a lot easier.
But we'll have to The eco tink tanks seems to
be the way, the way to go, for sure. For sure,
for sure, it's gotta work. I don't know. I think

(01:28:12):
they built They build things on purpose to not last,
and then they build them to Just forcing everything to
five G is kind of ridiculous, to be honest with you,
but kind of is what it is. And obviously, if
we're going to continue to do this stuff, we need
the Internet. Otherwise, Honestly, I could live without it if
I didn't do gaming and stuff. I really, you know,

(01:28:35):
do the show. I wouldn't, It wouldn't matter so much.
But and that's what Ashley is looking at it now.
They're not too terrible bad and I'm thinking a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
The eco tanks do not work on the five. You
want to go to EPSOM, you gotta get the XP
nine and seventy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Yeah, the newer one, the newer ones, but you're gonna
be more mm hmm yeah, yeah, four hundred bucks, that's
what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Unless I can talk to our wireless and see if
we can't go back down to the four point.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Or two point four router, well, I just we might
be just ICELF might have an idea idea about that.
Ice Will says the printer does not have a simple
USB port square one. I believe it does, but this

(01:29:47):
is a wired Wi Fi only printer, and it said
it won't it will not work us so like the
ports there, but it's not connected to nothing. And Lemicus
has ten thousand PA just printed on his E tank.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Yeah, is that as your first like refill when you
first got it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Or oh, how to refill it? Jeff says, is six
years now and he's added in twice. Well, just I
guess we could try one more time. Hewlett Packard's support
when they took over the computer and a printer and
then they took over and looked at the WIFEI I said,
they're nothing they could do with it. Yeah, he said
twenty dollars for an hour or just put it next
sending on. Well, we'll just try to do that and

(01:30:26):
see if I can just add another network and maybe
it would save me, because I'm thinking this thing is
not even a year old. I have not printed a
lot off of it, and it should not be should
not be broken down. Leinster says. The absent printer he
has is the twenty eight hundred. It's much cheaper on

(01:30:48):
printing than anything else he's seen. Yeah, everybody is talking
about how they liked the Eco tanks, and I mean,
oh damn, Telemoic has two refills just started a third.
I wish to off my office would do something like that,
but give us in. I go through ink like crazy
in the office. I mean if someone comes by to

(01:31:09):
do a lease, there has to be two copies. She's
looking at just like one hundred and twenty pages for
two copies. And that's not counting all the notices that
go out every month and da da da, and you'll
use several reams of paper in a month in it.
The ink is ridiculously expensive. When you're you're paying one

(01:31:30):
hundred and thirty dollars every month for ink or more,
so I think they would Yeah, yeah, I agree with
you on that. One HP never used to years ago,
they used to be good, but now it's that's what
we have is an HP a desk jet in it.
It was working just fine, just fine, alright, Ice, Well,

(01:31:54):
if it's the HP desk jet four to one five
five HP desk jet for one five five, see what
you can do if you if you'd like, we'd appreciate
the help. I'm just I'm just like I said a
dozen times again, Chris, frustrating to buy a brand new

(01:32:16):
and Chris tried helping us too, Jays, it's just no
matter what, it doesn't want to unless the printer, and
it's possible the printer itself. It's just that the Wi
Fi has just failed. It's a possibility even though it's
not a year old, it could have just failed.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Well, I mean, look at that one part that we
had to fix. It is only what a month and
a half old?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
What? Oh yeah, I was two months old in it,
you know. Yeah, I had to fix it twice a
three month time period. So he has twenty yeah, twenty
to fifty e T that's an older model. So I
don't absence states there that they're all the ones. You guys, Well,

(01:33:00):
you're not going to work with the five G basically
is what they were saying. So, but the new tank
was or the new Eco tanks are running you know
about four about four hundred dollars, which not something I
can really do right now, let's see go to EPs.
But Black Friday deals, that's what I was gonna look at.

(01:33:23):
You never know. So if you guys happen to hear
of a deal going on online or something, because I
don't have time to see everything, send me a message
on Facebook, on Messenger or something. Well, the ET one
is on sale right now. This is through EPs in
and heck says the Eco Tank twenty seven sixty I

(01:33:47):
swill says it has a USB port on the back. Yes,
but doesn't work. That's what we were saying earlier. The
port's there, so but it doesn't work. Charles says, go
to Costco. Yeah, there was actually a Costco about twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
From Actually we have never even been in that heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I have it. I've been up there before you. That's
about twenty five minutes by city. I mean when you
get out, you have to stop at that place. Oh yeah,
I know. It's right there by karaoke.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Yeah, you go get off the fruit. Instead of going
straight like you went to the mall, you go left
and then at the first stop, like you go left
again and follow it all the way around. It's out
by the uh the Harley shop over there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Yeah, oh jeez, leinster and cost him one hundred bucks. Walls.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
It has usually been a pretty good We had it
for we.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Had our others in a long time. It's just a
regular printer a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Yeah, here's a regular one for seventy bucks. It's just
a regular printer.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Yeah, And then it went out. So then I bought
this last year because I think we had that thing
for god, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
That one that's still up there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Uh, well, we have to recycle at that time. But yeah,
oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Years something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
And yeah, so I thought, okay, we'll buy this HP
because I have an HP in the office in it,
but it's a much higher grade and it Prince does
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Our daughter Crystal, she has an HP and had no
problems whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
It's just my luck. It's just kind of how things go.
So it's all good. But I appreciate all the suggestions
and the help. And again I spill if I know
that's back there, just it doesn't work. We've tried it,
so maybe the printer is just uh, I think the
printer's just crapped out. You know, it's so good it

(01:35:51):
shouldn't be. But then again, new parts fail on new parts,
on anything failed. And I've seen brand new carr Is
broken down two streams from a dealership. So you know,
it just could be our luck that way. But uh,
Telemcas says three on your encloseouts. I'm gonna look at

(01:36:13):
the sales coming up. Like I said, if you guys
wouldn't mind, if you happen to hear of something, just
send me a message let me know, because I would
like to do something. I mean, I do print PDFs out,
and I do print rule updates out and you know
I do use it for other stuff too. Just it's
just it's just annoying as all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Well, this one has voice activated preying.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
No, it'd probably turn you in for picking on me. No,
if they haven't yet, Oh, voice activated it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Doesn't say why careless plus voice activated preyt.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
It's just the first thing she says, has voice activated print.
I think about all these stories you see on people
have those Alexis in their homes and they've called the
police on them and turned them into child dhs and
all that stuff just for yelling or whatever. Yeah, Leinster says,
the dot matrix printers, those things did never fail. But

(01:37:16):
that's why they got rid of them. They didn't fail.
They don't want you to have something that doesn't fail.
They you know, they engineer it for a set amount
of time and then it fails and you got to
replace it. Kind of like now, if you noticed a
lot of your light fixtures, I do a lot of
stuff like that, So your life fixtures are becoming all LED.
That sounds great, except for you shouldn't a sit in

(01:37:37):
LED light all the time, and b you can't change
the light bulb when it goes out, you have to
change the fixture. And that includes those puck bights. It's
the recess lighting that sits in your ceiling in all
the newer homes. When it goes out, you got to
change the whole light fixture out. So yeah, just like
your outside lights are turning to that too. You go

(01:37:57):
install one, it goes out, you have to take little
fit sure off, throw it away by anyone. That's why.
That's because the regular glass light bulbs didn't fail. They
literally and they didn't cause you harm. LEDs are not
good to be under at all, ever, and especially not
for all a length of time, but they got rid
of those. Lemachus says that was from Amazon. I'll just

(01:38:22):
keep an eye on SLS and see see what can
be done because kind of need to have a printer
for the things I do use it for other than that.
I don't know, but hopefully you guys we're gonna go
ahead and round up the show here. But I appreciate

(01:38:43):
if you guys watch the video that comes out tomorrow
or thumbs up it and see if Ashley redeems herself.
And I don't know, there's just an interesting little character
that pops on the show, so you'll have to see.
I'll have to see what your reactions are and we
will take it from there. But thank you guys for

(01:39:03):
showing up and being here at the end of the week.
Like I always say every week, it makes the weekend
great in the beginning of the week tolerable. It's not
a lie, it's not a sales thing. It's just honest
and truly to talk with you guys at the end
of the week. I deal with so much stupidity and
insanity at work. Well I didn't say that, but it

(01:39:25):
is nice to just hang out with you guys. So
thank you very much. You wouldn't mind thumbs up in
our show, we would appreciate it. And again, thank you guys.
We'll see you next week. Take care bye.
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