12 - Gamify Housecleaning

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome back to Gamify This, thepodcast game show featuring the
artist, Samuel the Gamer, Sean the Nerd Puzzle.
Join us as we compete to come upwith the best gamified solutions

(00:20):
to our daily experiences in Gamify This.
Hello, I know you were just greeted by me, but you can't get
enough of my voice, can you? No, we can't.
Not at all. That's that's awesome.
Welcome back to Game of Fire. This Today we have.

(00:43):
I'm just going through exactly what you just heard.
All right, so I'm. How are you?
That is Samuel. He's a he's a demonic, and I'm
scared of him right now. Oh, he's actually a demon.

(01:04):
I am actually afraid of him. I actually come from hell.
Oh, that's impressive. Actually from an egg in in lava.
Hey, did you fall from heaven? Because they must have kicked
you out. Hey, baby, did you fall from
heaven? Because I don't see you going
back there. Wait a second.

(01:28):
He's a blueberry. He's got to be rolled into the
juicer. Blueberry pie And do you think,
do you think that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was an
allegory for the seven deadly sins?
No, that that would be a really fun research paper.
Yeah, I think. Except there was only four kids
that had a bad fate. That way you didn't get it.

(01:50):
That way. It was easier to remember each
sin. So the other three deadly sins
are actually have. Their own what?
We learned, oh. Yeah.
And in every version I've seen it sort of that Baruch Assault
or Mr. Beauregard fan, which waythey want to go or or the

(02:11):
Beauregard's parent was something of a narcissist, Yeah,
but not a narcissist. Like the clinical definition,
but more like the spiritual definition in the church.
OK, for all the viewers at home,if you have those 3D glasses
from the early 2000s that have ared lens and a blue lens, put
them on right now and cross youreyes.

(02:33):
If Samuel and Sean overlap, you will get a 3D image.
If you cross your eyes just perfectly so that Samuel and
Sean overlap, it'll. Pop out and scare you.
You'll also have to tilt your head a little bit since I'm on
the top. Yeah, Samuel's just vibing out.
Samuel is having a great time. I'm also listening to music.

(02:55):
Michael, do you have your music on?
OK, welcome back to Game of Fire.
This this is Samuel and Michael,and we're going to talk about
our problems. So I hope you're ready for some
stuff. Michael, how's it going for you?
Son of a gun. I'm doing pretty well, actually.
This week I've gotten back into working out you were you're

(03:16):
gonna skip right on over to Samuel, weren't you 'cause I
said I was doing fine. We went in fact.
This weekend I went nice. Oh, it was.
Oh, I was Snake. I've been working out.
I've been making my bed. We all look at our beds.

(03:41):
I looked at Michaels bed but yeah I've been playing Beat
Saber every morning and it's been a great because like it's
it's so over stimulating. It's a it's a good, harsh wake
up and I've gotten pretty good at some of the I'm just doing
expert. I haven't played it in like
months so I'm surprised. I'm still like pretty good at

(04:04):
it. I'm not going to, I'm not going
to brag, but I'm pretty, pretty girl.
All right. Have you done any damifying
recently? I'm not going to lie now, like
The thing is, I don't have many conflicts.

(04:27):
Oh. You you don't don't think about
like so Bradley you know also also think about or or supposed
to specifically. You can think about just like
what a day looks like for you. And if it's more game like it
was, yeah, I have a streak goingOK for Beat Saber.
So like, I've been gamifying, working out.

(04:47):
Sure, that works. I've been learning French.
That's an update from last episode.
I'm on day French, 27 in a row of doing Duolingo French.
I'm doing elevated. As soon as you got started, you
just committed to it, just like you're committing to the blue
with the red. Samuel and the Blue, Rated R.

(05:08):
Samuel, that projector thing almost gave me nightmares on one
of my sleepovers at. Your parents house?
Because I thought I was seeing skeletons in the images, yeah.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'vebeen seeing.
Oh no. Is it like that test where the
Doctor pulls up those ink images?
Ink blot. Yeah, I was like, what do you

(05:31):
see here? Is it 2 koalas hugging or bleep,
bleep, beep beep? I was like, I don't see koalas
at all, Sir, that's very clearlyhorrible things.
You see a lot of fingerprints. And I don't understand.
I don't know who's they are. I don't have anyone specific in
mind. I just see fingerprints many
times. To me, they just look like
people's faces. I'm gonna go make my bed.

(05:51):
You guys keep talking. Epic time lapse.
A puzzle making his bed. So, Samuel, what are your
problems, and have you been gamifying any of them?
My problems with the many have had several.
Doctor appointment. Since our last gamification,

(06:12):
been working on figuring out howto live better.
I was thinking like, I'd like tostart going to the gym again,
'cause I ended my physical therapy so that I could start
going to the gym again and startapplying that in the gym.
And then I went to a specialist who could actually look at my
condition and said, yeah, you shouldn't be lifting weights.
And I said, Oh yeah, that makes sense.
She also told me I shouldn't be drinking coffee and I'm like,

(06:36):
yeah, that makes sense. Like every other doctor's told
me, it's like, it's just gonna make your condition worse.
And it'll always spike when you have coffee.
I'm like, but it'll take away the mental fog that comes with
my condition. And yeah, that's a different
condition, though. That's your well.

(06:56):
The same one that's affected by the coffee does cause cotton
headedness because you lose a lot of blood in your head and it
goes to the rest of your body. Which will make you really easy
and confused a lot. But I was able to actually, You
know, I've been making a game ofdrinking water.

(07:17):
I've been making a game of eating salt.
I've been making a game of are you starting to feel tired?
And, like, looking for the signsthat I'm starting to feel tired
or fatigued and quickly relax? Because that's what I have to
do. If I don't, if I push through
it, it actually gets a lot worse.
Which, you know, for most normalpeople, it's just like, yeah,

(07:40):
when you start feeling stressed or tired, of course it's going
to feel worse, but that's good for you.
But for me, it's not it's it's bad for my condition.
So I I actually tried to have some fun with it.
Like I bought some pressurized pressurized compression socks
that I thought looked fun and I wear them.
What are those? They they put pressure on your

(08:01):
feet and your shins and it. And it and it's good for you.
It squeezes your calf just to improve blood.
Flow to that area. You know how like a Thunder
jacket helps a dog feel comforted?
Well, it helps my it helps my soreness go away.
It helps that it puts pressure where it needs to be.

(08:24):
You know, it's not. As people talk about putting
pressure on something, is your music to that same?
Because you've, like you've likebeen yelling this whole time.
It's, it's helping me talk a little more.
OK. Well, it sounds like you're in
distress. I'm always in distress when I'm
with you. I think he has a lot of energy.
I also got myself a cane so thatthroughout the day I can.
I have a third leg helping me walk, and then in the evenings

(08:48):
when I want to do stuff or when I want to dance like I was
dancing this evening and stuff. It's a lot easier and I've found
my life just getting a lot better.
So I have. So I have a as usual, been
gamifying my schedule. But I'm actually doing it and
committing to it and like being like, OK, there's a lot of stuff
that I'm getting in my mind to do, but I have to put it at the

(09:09):
end of this other stuff that I've already decided I'm going
to do. So for instance, there are three
different art ideas that I have for Game of 5S, like visual art
ideas that I've had recommended to me.
So, but I'm going to start with that first one I plan on doing
and do the next one and then do the next one.
I'll be right back. I'm turn my Ultraviolet at all.

(09:31):
All right. And I made a game out of it, and
you can definitely trim a lot ofthat down because it took me a
while to figure out what I was talking about.
Yeah, it's OK. Wait, I can't hear a thing
you're saying. I think I want to make Samuel a
trophy because he's been doing alot of work.
He has been doing a lot. He's been, he's been at the very

(09:53):
least finding out stuff that he's having trouble with and at
least you know figuring out whatthose things are and then you
know as a result finding things that help out.
But that's one of the hardest things is getting to the root of
what makes everything so miserable.
I've been doing some research ornot research, but like some
thought process and planning andstuff like that for making this

(10:14):
so we can record in person. Because I think that's going to
help a lot with recording and making things feel more natural,
really help out with the editingprocess.
Because when it's a fully onlinething like this, it takes a lot
more editing to make things feelmore seamless and natural.
But if we're sitting around in person, we can just switch
between cameras. Like we have a couple cameras

(10:36):
set up, one that shows all of usand one that's like a close up
of each of us. Just switch between the cameras
and it. It's probably be more natural
that way could help, but I'm looking at some things that we
could do that for sit around on the couch in the living room.
Samuel, what is happening? Oh, his captain is happening.
He's talking to his knees. I was really confused.

(10:59):
I'm trying to teach him. Pause up now.
Yeah, say. Well, it's weird when you just
see a get up. Get up.
Come on, get up. Samuel.
I'm thinking of making you a trophy at some point.
What do you think would make a good game of fight experience,

(11:20):
like trying to get up to that? Oh, build up to that.
What is something that I need towork on in my life that I will
feel so much better if I get there?
Well, Sean just made the point that you've already made a lot
of progresses in your life and he wants to commemorate those
things. What about made progress then?

(11:40):
You're doing simple, small things.
That's the first step to everything like that when you
were. Working in the You said you did
the big One Eyed Discs. That was something that was
creative and held, something simple and mundane.
And that's what this podcast is all about.

(12:00):
On the first level at any at anyrate and it seems like you're
ahead of most of us. Oh cool, so you'd like create a
progress bar and then you would show how much of it I have
accomplished and you'll see yourself how much further I have
to go. Yeah, awesome.

(12:21):
Uh huh. Just give them a freaking
testing tube and pour some liquid in it and say it has
meaning. I think I want to do it like
like they're you can get 20 points or something and and you
get them in small ways. There's stuff like you cleaned
your room a little bit that other day.
That was pretty cool. Yeah, I know.
One thing that I've really made a lot of progress in is a

(12:43):
specifically addressing different things I know I've
been having trouble with. Like, I realized my mental
health wasn't good. And so I went and I got help and
I found out, OK, there's stuff Ineed to do about that, and I
realized that my physical healthwasn't good and I have two
disabilities working against me.It's like, OK, what are the
first things that come up that Ican do something about?

(13:04):
And then? Going after them and trying to
make sure that I do them. Well, I think that's a good
development. I will get working on that at
some point. But gentlemen, Are you ready to
gamify our things? Yes, I don't think so.
Yeah. Yeah.
Audience, Are you ready to hear us come up with Some people

(13:26):
don't understand what the show is.
That was my mom. I showed her an episode and she
was like, this is really funny, but.
You guys ramble way too much. I don't think any of us.
It's a podcast, yeah. That's true.
Maybe my mom just doesn't like podcasts.
Maybe she doesn't listen to podcasts.
Yeah, all the people that have said negative things about it

(13:46):
are not podcast listeners. And all my friends who do listen
to podcasts say that it's too fast-paced and we need to edit
less. OK, I'm a podcast listener and I
think that it's too slow sometimes.
Well, you listen to. I listen to what I listen to.
I listen to a lot of podcasts that are more interview type
like less, less like NPR topic based, less topic based and

(14:12):
more. Yeah, but normally it's like
between celebrities or Youtubersand stuff.
Like it's normally very comedic and goofy, not news that seems
to be the majority of podcasts out there.
Like the kind that most that thebloated audiences used to is
less editing and more natural sounding.

(14:32):
The ones that same will listen to are more like self
improvement. Very topic based, like here's a
philosophy concept, or here's a biblical concept, or here's
this, here's that where that's scripted.
We're talking about TV show. Well, but it's not.
It's not. I mean, some of them are
scripted, some of them aren't, but and it and I'm just saying
it would not be fair to compare.Us to that, though, like I know

(14:55):
where I am when I'm listen to, Iknow where it's going.
It's not like it doesn't end toosoon.
And we have a format. I'll listen for it.
Yeah, just listen to three or four episodes and you'll get it.
Like we're not figure. Out what it is.
I guess my point about like, I want, I want it to be like one
thing that we can keep doing is redefining what a game is and

(15:15):
what gamification is, 'cause I was just listening to a
philosophy podcast the other daywhere he said we don't really
know what what a word is and he was talking about a.
Philosopher who's like, there's a right definition for every
word and it's like, well, is there?
Because you might say, like, what is a what's a game.
And then your definition might make something that isn't at all

(15:37):
like a game also have to be a game.
And so, like, we keep redefiningour terms and that can help
people question their question of what is this podcast about or
be more certain that we're doingwhat we're saying we're doing.
Yeah. So Sean, do you want to, do you
want to summarize what the pointof this podcast is?
To have fun, listen to each other To start conversation,

(15:59):
Learn about ourselves, learn about everyday things in our
lives, and get to the root of some things that are bothering
you. And create a little mind game
with yourself to help you turn that something that is bogging
you down into something that youenjoy or at least tolerate.

(16:23):
It turns the insufferable into something at least tolerable.
At least sufferable. And the point is hopefully if
you can get enough small games going in your mind and and don't
try too hard because if you're focused on the game so much,

(16:47):
you're going to miss actual life.
And that's not the point either.The point is to get a couple
games and analogies flowing in your mind to where when
something you really hate comes up, you're like, oh hey, it's
like a game because this and this and this and then and then
you can do that thing with that in in your background mindset.
And it can help you push throughit and after a while turn it

(17:11):
into something enjoyable and more rewarding, like butterfly.
Wings because you can't hear a butterfly passing you.
You can't hear two butterflies passing you, but if you go to
one of those places where there are thousands and thousands of
butterflies, they take off and start flapping.
You can hear it. If you hear several wings
beating at the same time, or if you drop 2 grains of sand or

(17:34):
three grains of sand, you can't hear them.
But when you dump a bag of sand,you can hear that.
Yeah, it compounds and in a bunch of small changes.
And in each episode, yes, there is a topic.
Like we had one on gamifying work or gamifying your daily
commute. I wanted to say commute again,

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your daily commute, morning routine, et cetera.
But the point isn't that you specifically need help in those
things. The point is proving the concept
that no matter what the task is,no matter what the topic is, no
matter what the problem is, there can be a way to spin it
into something enjoyable, something rewarding.

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None of us are experts in anything.
None of us have gone to college.One of us hasn't even finished
high school. We're showing how simple it can
be to make the horrible monotonous things.
Why? It wasn't a secret.
What? No, Sean's still in high school.
That's not a. Secret playing the Pearl in the
Shell under the Shell game. I was like, wait a minute.

(18:38):
One of you is going to betray me?
Oh no. But but yeah, none of us are
experts. None of us have a degree in
anything, but but we're able to do these things because you just
have to do it once, Create a system for yourself, and it can
help in the time that you need it the most.
All it takes is a thought and a tiny bit of persistence and

(19:00):
maybe a little bit of time and effort, and you can have a
mindset you can flip to if you if you want to.
Viewing things through those lenses can help you in your life
and help you feel more happy. And it's.
Obviously not going to be the sole life fixer.
There are so many things in lifethat we're upset about.

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A system like this isn't going to fix you, but it can help you.
Thank you for listening. Come back next week.
The merch is on the merch store.All right.
Are you ready to gamify a gentleman?
Depends on what it is. Are you ready to gamify?
Housekeeping. Oh, yes, Housekeeping Level one.

(19:51):
You guys just saw me do it. Yeah, ridiculous and and you.
Part of it was because I wanted to do it because I just cleaned
my room and I feel so much happier inside my room.
Not that my life is fixed, but that my room feels safer.
The point system is the same as last time, where points compound

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per round. That applies to negative points
as well. And there are three rounds.
There is structure, main game get the body idea out and then
round two is niche. See how far you can lean into
your specific feel your the vibeof the game, see how you can

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play off of it and make it a little bit more fleshed out
through the vibe niche lighting of that game.
And then round three is advertising and there's a pop
round somewhere in there. Oh, lightning round and yeah,
with an interesting topic. Wow, you're selling this very

(20:59):
hard. What?
There is a. Pop round with a very
interesting topic. That.
Sounds understand I understand I'm not the advertising person.
Yeah, that's me, Sean. What's what?
What's the second? I want to understand the second
one a little better. You said it's more niche, but I
want to know what that means. Is it like shaping out like game

(21:21):
level? How it happens versus the basic
shape? Basically, what he means is
don't spend 15 minutes going into all the details of your
game in the first round, becauseyou'll have a chance for that in
the third round. Mm hmm.
OK, in the second round? Or second round, Yeah.
So you know, what I'm trying to get at here is like, you know

(21:41):
how each game or movie or show has a personality?
Like when you're watching Gravity Falls, you know you're
watching Gravity Falls because of because something will happen
in that show and it'll be like, Oh my gosh, that is such a
Gravity Falls thing. Try and lean into that kind of
try and make some personality quirks and traits from your game

(22:01):
and try and create a vibe or playoff of what you already have
to sort of reinforce that image.Does that make sense?
OK. Yeah, yeah, I think so.
OK. Do you wanna give us a little
bit of time to prepare or do youwant us to start skewing?

(22:23):
I was going to ask you a question, actually, Michael.
Yeah, what's up? Can you stop me when it's about
time to do the poll thing and also remind me what I'm supposed
to do? You should have researched this.
You can do that while Sam when Iprepare our games, find a poll
or make a poll. Of something related to

(22:46):
housekeeping. So it could be trivia, or it
could be, or it could be. You know what It could be?
I forgot the word. Hang on, just give me a second
hypothesizing. It could be hypothesizing who is

(23:07):
gonna win this episode, or it could be.
Anything you want, really. Just make sure that we want to
make sure that the Q As and the polls are absolutely, definitely
mentioned in each episode. OK, near the middle, so
normally, like probably after round one.

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All right, all right. You guys can have 3 1/2 minutes
and that starts right now. And I will also be researching
this whole thing. Time has been helped.

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Gentlemen, Are you ready for epic session?
Yeah, I've barely begun. Oh, I've got it.
Samuel, you can go first. This game is called Big Things
Only. Oh.
There are. Several different games you can

(24:10):
play, but there are two main kinds of games.
So you can play sorting games, or you can play cleaning games.
Sorting games are those little burdens you have hanging over
you of man. This room really feels
disorganized, like I am distracted by how much stuff is
lying around. Like I've got a bunch of stuff

(24:31):
on my desk. I'm dealing with it all the
time. And these sorting games you
start with sorting. And I'm pointing them away.
So like if it was laundry you, you sort out what things you're
going to focus on sorting what'sannoying me.
Like a lot of things are annoying me.
What's annoying me the most? OK, laundry.
So I'm only going to sort the laundry that's in my room.

(24:52):
I have it lying all around so orI'm only annoyed by the art
supplies. Or I'm in the living room or the
kitchen and I'm like, I'm I'm just most annoyed by the dishes.
So even though it's not the onlything annoying me is the thing
that's annoying me the most. And at the end of it all, it
might be the only thing annoyingme, so I'll start by sorting
them. But the way you play this game,

(25:13):
you set a timer and you're only going to sort for the amount of
time that is being sorted. The catch is, when the timer
goes off, you have to throw awayor give away what's left.
So you're going to prioritize the most important things to put
away first. Then there's the cleaning games.
These games are called basicallymissed a spot.

(25:34):
Nothing major will be left undone.
If you see a big splotch somewhere, you're going to focus
on cleaning that, and then smaller spots will start to get
bigger as the bigger spots go away.
Now, you don't really set a timer for this game, but you
have a deadline, one of which would be you know.
I have to go to work or I have aparty after this or there's

(25:54):
someone coming over and I can't have a big mess over here.
So the deadline there is get it cleaned up before it's time for
that. So definitely you'll start with
the big stuff until there's nothing really noticeable.
And when you step away with the front mate, you'll be like, wow,
this is really clean. I thought it was really dirty
because I was focusing on the microscopic tiny things and.

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At the end of that, you know. Also, if it's not a deadline
specifically, you just decide toclean your own.
Physical fatigue is a factor. You get tired while you're
cleaning, so you have to ration your strength.
I'll get tired after cleaning two things.
Even though I want to clean three spots, I'll be like, OK, I
got two big spots. I didn't get all the little

(26:35):
spots, but it definitely does look a lot cleaner than it did.
And I can come back to this if Ifind the strength too later.
So that's sorting games. And cleaning games, OK, like
using up your gas tank to drive a certain number of miles and
then you have to gas up again. Later.
The moral of both of them is bigthings only OK if you only clean

(26:57):
the big things you don't have toworry about.
There are no little things. OK?
That was really good. That was short and sweet.
Michael, are you? You don't look ready.
OK, so. My game is called Maiden
Mastery, The House Cleating Odyssey.

(27:20):
I've not gotten much on my paperyet, but I have a lot.
Ignore that spot right there. In this game, your goal is to
have an overall cleaner environment, kind of like Sam
Mills. Don't worry about all the
details, OK? None of that matters.

(27:41):
Great. So the first thing.
Don't worry, this is short and sweet.
The first thing is you need to assess through situations.
Go through all your rooms that you're planning on tackling that
day. For example, if you decided that
today is the day to clean the bathroom and the living room,
Look at the bathroom and the living room.
Look at what tools you're going to need to clean that.
Look at the mirror. Say I need the window.

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The glass cleaner. I need the counter cleaner.
I'm going to need a toilet brush.
Look at the living room. I'm going to need the duster.
Think about the tools that you need.
You have an inventory that can hold up to six items.
Go to the cleaning closet. Grab the six items that you're
going to use. Make sure you use all six of
them. That is pre Level expedience.
What's pre level expedience definition?

(28:24):
Pre level expedience is making sure that you're prepared for
the environment you're about to go into.
For example, getting a good night's sleep before going to
work. Drinking some caffeine so you
don't fall asleep. Eating a meal so you don't
starve to death. Grabbing a gun so you can murder
someone. Make sure that you are prepared
for your task. Make sure you use each of that.
Excuse me? Make sure you use each of those

(28:45):
tools that you collected. Because someone like me, I have
a DHDI know that I want things clean.
I go to the cleaning closet and grab one thing, 'cause I can,
you know, hold one thing, I go to the bathroom, I clean that
and I'm like, OK, the whole bathroom's cleaned, 'cause I did
some cleaning. That's not how it works.
So write down a list of the things that need to be cleaned.
Write a list of the tools that you need.

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Go grab those tools. Make sure you use each one,
because there's a reason you wrote each one of those down.
That's going to help you remember.
And then we have a little we have a little ticker at the
bottom here. What?
What does this say? Pro tip Background music is a
buff. Your soundtrack matters.
You may not be like me, but I need music when I do things.
If not, put a podcast on. How about gamify this?

(29:29):
That might help improve your everything and make everything
better. Yes, you know, another thing
that I've been doing is there's a lot of shows on my watch list
and many streaming apps, and they're like shows that I kind
of want to watch but I don't want to sit down and spend time
watching them. Grab a Bluetooth speaker, play
it on your phone, and if you're not that invested, let it play
in the background. Maybe glance over for important

(29:49):
parts, but that way you can get something checked off of your
fun list while you're doing something boring.
Now, if that doesn't help you out, don't do that.
If it's going to be a distraction, definitely don't do
that. But that could be something that
gives you a personal buff. But yeah, the overall things are
make sure that you are ready foryour cleaning, make sure you
grab the tools that you need andthen use all those tools, tools

(30:11):
probably the wrong word supplies.
Make sure you use all of those because you grab them for a
reason. And that's all I have so far.
So that's all I'm going to present.
That was also really good, especially for not being ready.
That's pretty good. It's the first time I actually
wrote something on a paper. You guys have been doing that,
so I decided to to join the law.Have you ever come home from a

(30:40):
long day of work? I bet you have.
And I bet you went in your room and cried because it didn't
smell good. John's lighting a candle because
his room doesn't smell. You're just thinking about how
bad your room must smell. What scented candles are your

(31:00):
favorites? Go down to the polls below and
check off one of the pre listed selected candles or write your
own. And I encourage you to write a
story about how candles helped you survive the direct
circumstances of life. This is perfect.

(31:25):
That was it. OK, so maybe go more in depth on
what you mean by polls and and question box because there might
be some people who don't know what those are head down.
Can you do the visual? For me, Yes, Master.
Oh yes, Master. Master.
Oh yes. Yes, Master.
Master Yes. Hang on, master.

(31:48):
We're at the halfway. Point No, it means we just
finished you Always. You always start talking about
the polls halfway through the game.
Or maybe you only know. That's we're wanting to improve
that. We're wanting to improve that.
Oh, OK, so you see this on the Spotify, you're looking at your
episode and then you Scroll downand you see those polls.
Isn't it polled like a multiple choice one?

(32:08):
This one, for example. Samuel is talking way too much,
but you can click on each one and then it shows you what
everybody else thinks. And then there are, there's AQ
and A down there where you can you and they ask, we ask you a
question and then you answer thequestion.
Which this week will be a story about your candles and how they

(32:31):
have helped improve your life and made you not cry when you
get home from work because your bedroom smells like the 9 bags
of chips you have laying around and the turd on a plate.
Uh huh. That happened to me once
although. It no, it happened to me once.
I walked into your room and I started crying.

(32:54):
Holy crap. What?
My camera's dead. Oh, give me a second.
I ran out of baberdees. I gotta pee.
Anyway, I'll be right back. OK, Editor, Editor, you can take
a break here. 5 minute break I'mgonna go.
Put my batteries in and get water and stuff like that

(33:16):
because I'm dehydrated. OK, I'll get some water too.
My candle right now is Hashmi Mahogany Kashmir.
Mahogany this. Those both sound like colors.
It it just smells sweet. I don't know what Kashmir
mahogany is, but that's that's. It's a wood.

(33:36):
I'm pretty sure that's a wood ora tree.
I think so. Wait, actually I'm pretty
stupid. What?
That can be in the advertisement.
You guys have 40 seconds. By the way, our time's up.

(33:58):
Who's ready? I'm ready.
I'm ready. Let's have Michael go first this
time, All right? So if I'm 100% understanding
what you mean by the niche of the game, that means like the
pivotal mechanic or like? What makes the game feel like
the game? Yes.
So, as I said earlier, the name of the game is Maiden Mastery

(34:20):
Colon House Cleaning Odyssey. What I didn't tell you before is
the name of your backpack is Maiden Master.
I just heard myself. We're gonna go with that and
don't think about that. Yeah, it's the Maiden Master
3000. It only has six slots in it.

(34:42):
You can put any six items in it that you choose, but you need to
make sure you use all six of those items now.
Also, this game, there's always something going in the
background, whether that's music, podcasts, or a show that
you want to watch. You know that someone's playing
this game. If they've got their maiden
Master 3000 on their back, pulling their broom and their

(35:05):
spatula and their vertebrae, youknow they're playing Maiden
Mastery. Household Odyssey.
They've got something play in the background, keep them
occupied. They know what they're cleaning
because they can look at their tool and say, hey, when I was
looking at that, I was thinking of this, so I'm going to think
about that again. It's brilliant.

(35:26):
That's Maiden Master Re Household Odyssey with the
Maiden Master 3000. Nice.
Samuel, Are you ready? I'm ready.
All right, let's go. Let me remind you, my game is
called Big Things Only, and thatis because we are only cleaning

(35:47):
up the big things, the big thingon your mind, Let's start with a
progress bar. Let's be specific.
Let's know exactly what it is that we're wanting to tackle.
And if we tackle anything that'snot on the progress bar, we
might be like, oh, I want to addthat to my progress bar because
it was extra and end up missing some of that other stuff.
Don't do that. Make bonus points for yourself

(36:09):
and put that somewhere else. It'll only count.
If you finish the progress bar, it all adds up in the end, but
you want to know whether you wonor not, and that's based on the
progress bar. Now let me know so not feel
rewarding enough, Make a specific journal and log and
save it for later. Afterwards, that's important
too. After you've done all the little
stuff and you'd be like, well, I'm going to forget this later

(36:30):
and it won't reward me later, it'll reward you if you can look
back on it and know what you didright.
So go ahead and journal about like, how that cleaning
experience went. We'll do sorting games, we'll do
cleaning games, and these games are broken.
Into phases. Phase one is sort by kind.
That means know exactly which game is most important to play.
Like I'm going to put away the pens, or I'm going to put away

(36:51):
the clothes, or I'm going to putaway the toys that are lying
around here because dogs have a lot of toys and stuff.
And then? Commit to that game.
Phase two is when you set the timer.
Why do we wait to set the timer until phase two?
Well, for me, it takes the wholefirst phase to decide whether
I'm actually going to commit to the game or not, and by the time
that I have chosen, that's when I'm committed.

(37:13):
That's why I want to set the timer.
I don't want all that time to goaway in phase one.
So phase two, I set the timer for shorter than the amount of
time that it usually takes me toplay this game.
If it usually takes me 15 minutes to an hour.
To clean up. Then I set the timer for 1/4 for
half that time, because then I know I'm actually going to go

(37:34):
faster and I'm committed to something a little bit
challenging. Set the timer and then sort by
size. That's phase two.
Sorting by size, starting with the big stuff, of course.
And then being like this goes here, this goes here, this goes
here. Putting it into piles.
Not even actually putting it where it goes.
Phase three is sort by color. OK.
And then that's what you actually see.

(37:55):
And you know where you you, you notice that a little bit more
and then cleaning it up, puttingit where it goes.
And that is when, that's when the timer goes off, is about to
go off. You're like in a matter of a
minute, 2 minutes, that's when you have to really start putting
stuff away. That's when you're prioritizing
what you're going to put away and the timer goes off.

(38:16):
That's when you have to give andthrow stuff away.
And that's OK because you put away the most important stuff.
Same with cleaning. That's is it?
Is it? That's it.
Once again, more verbose than mine because mine is a
streamlined cleaning focus, I can highlight the efficiency and

(38:38):
simplicity that is offered with the Maiden Master 3000.
It can cater to individuals who appreciate a streamlined
approach to cleaning, allowing you to concentrate on the
limited set of tasks and cleaning supplies, reducing
decision fatigue. It's brilliant, I tell you.
Yeah, but this is a game I'm actually gonna play.
This is a game I'm actually gonna play.

(39:00):
And this is a game that I actually have been playing for
four. Years.
So this is a game that I've started playing and it's it's
helping me out a lot. Well, I didn't call it made a
master 3000, but yes, I collect my cleaning supplies before I
clean to make sure I actually clean.
So as I've been playing this game, I've been repeating myself
over and over where where I am or how I'm doing it.
I haven't play it for the past couple years.

(39:22):
Big things only. And this is how I teach it to
people too. It's like you're skimming leaves
off the top of the pool. I know there's lots of little
leaves, but there's lots of really big leaves and we can't
let those sink to the bottom. Start with those.
Just the big ones. Only the big ones.
That's how I'm showing. Like the Jesus.
Parable, I say only get the big ones and then there's a little
bit more and I say, OK, you see big ones.

(39:43):
Now just get those ones and it'sa little more like slither IO or
something. Where you're only getting the
little. Thing good idea I could be
playing Slither with. Focus on it, OK?
You guys each got 7 points for that spontaneous argument.
We got the same amount of points, So what was the point?

(40:03):
Well, remember that they're thatthey're collateral that the
points in each round are bigger,whether positive or negative.
So one of you actually got an advantage out of that, even
though I added the same amount of tallies.
For each person, because each iteration is worth more points.
Yeah. So like basically it's OK.

(40:25):
The the 2nd tally is worth 2 points because it's the second
tally. The third tally is worth 3
points and so on. Right, right, right.
Right. All right.
Are you guys ready for a pop around?
How do you fit Community into this game?

(40:46):
Community. How?
How can you bring loneliness outof it?
OK, we don't need prep. We don't need prep.
We can just start talking. Right.
We just having a conversation here.
This is a conversation, Yeah, wecan have a conversation.
You can keep track of the points, but Sean and I can, I
mean, same one. I can talk.
So community is always important.
Accountability. Having stuff to share with other

(41:10):
people. Puzzle and I share our streaks
with each other. We share the numbers.
We get to see them. We get to see how long and how
far we've been going. But this kind of thing, you
know, I'm making a log and I'm being specific.
He can see the changes because he comes into the house and you
know, I've talked about, you know, cleaning up a mess and
you've got company coming over, right puzzle and you got to get

(41:32):
stuff cleaned up and there's a ticking clock for that.
But sharing the progress makes the progress.
It's not just something you're saying to yourself that you're
going to forget, but you say it to somebody else.
They help you remember. For, for, for wanting to talk
about this. You're putting in a lot of

(41:54):
feedback. Puzzle.
Oh, oh, I thought we were takingturns here.
No. No, no, we're just going at it.
OK, well, the thing, the thing about my game is it gets better
with each person that's added because each person has their
own backpack. We can each have our own 6 items
and it improves the quality of the cleaning and it helps the
other person. It helps each of the people feel
more efficient because you can actually see how you're helping.

(42:17):
You can see how much of a difference you're making there.
You can tell the other person how much they're needed in order
for this to be successful, because you can only have six
items yourself, but when you adda second person, you can have 12
items, or when you add a third person you can have 18.
That's as far as I can go with Skip County, the Sixes I'm not
going to. Keep going.
I feel like as people with limited resources like that

(42:38):
seems like a weakness. But then since you have a
community, are you allowed to share your resources?
Trade your resources temporarilyas needed.
Like, hey, I see that you have awater squirter.
I don't need soap. I just need water.
Can I borrow your water squirter?
And in order for me to hold that, I have to hand over my one
of my supplies to you. Yeah.
Trading is encouraged, yes. And can you drop it like in?

(43:01):
Like in those games where you can drop your weapons.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is still the real life.
I dropped it. But I I really see this helping
people who need to focus. You can encourage the other
person to focus as well, and thenumber is arbitrary.
You can make it whatever number you want.
If you can only focus on four things, get the four slot

(43:22):
Backpack. We have it up on the store right
now. Just get whatever backpack is
going to help you the most. They are all rather expensive,
but you you get what you pay for.
They they will change your life forever.
And they have the gamify this logo on them anyway with the
with this weak thumbnail and youcan you can fit a you can fit a
vacuum cleaner into. It somehow, not yet.

(43:44):
We don't have it up yet, but maybe by the time you're
listening to this in the distantfuture, we do have it up.
So Samuel, what happens if the big thing, the biggest thing,
turns out to be like a week longproject?
Like the big problem is your kitchen cupboards are falling
apart. They're going to.
They're just like, horrible the.Thing is, tackling it at all.

(44:06):
Getting started on it like that is what I've noticed is a big
change. Like I've been catastrophizing a
little bit about my health and like, what if I can't get
another job soon enough? What if I'm cursed to keep
standing and I end up dying as aresult of this, you know?
But I made a little change whereI put out an application and I
told my boss I need to sit down at work and that kind of thing.

(44:29):
It didn't solve the whole problem, but addressing it at
all, addressing specifically, the biggest thing is doing
something you know, OK, So if there's a big spot in the
bathtub and we have company coming over, the first step to
getting it taken care of is noticing that it's there so we
can pull the curtain in front ofit.
And that's better than if company came over and we didn't

(44:50):
pull the curtain in front of it.You know, you saw that I did
that for you. Yeah, but I didn't think the
bathtub looked bad. But I do like having the curtain
there, because I think the curtain looks good.
But do something about it, like addressing it at all is the
first step and try, try to get it done.
But again, we're limited on physical fatigue.
We're limited on the time crunchof I have to get to work or

(45:11):
somebody's coming over or something like that, but even
getting started. And knowing that it's there,
knowing that it's there and thatit is the biggest thing is a
huge step of progress. I mean, I think that goes for
more than just cleaning, but stop me if I'm going off a
trail. Yeah, all of these games go for
more than the specific things, yeah.

(45:33):
But like I was thinking, that goes for content creation too.
I've been having trouble making videos and because I'm worried
about the editing process and then publishing them and then
making shorts and tik toks to them being like, oh, all that
time was wasted. But then I realized I'm wasting
a lot of time not doing that. I just need to make sure my

(45:54):
camera and microphone are here, update the settings and stuff so
that whenever I feel like recording, I can just sit down
and do it right, then making sure that it's ready for that.
And I don't know if that has anything to do with what you
were saying. You just made me think.
About it, because I was also talking about outside of
cleaning, like taking care of myphysical health, getting
opportunities in the cartooning world.

(46:15):
Like that doesn't make the answer come the same day, But
I'm glad that I'm looking. I'm glad that I'm even looking
to begin with, and it's kind of like physics.
When you first start pushing an object, that initial push is the
hardest, and then once it's starting to go, it kind of helps
push itself. I think that fact goes with

(46:36):
everything. Those are all good contributions
guys. And it's it's true about
everything that we do all the time that, you know, it's kind
of like a banquet, no, a potluckwhere we all just throw our
ideas on the table and and take them away to different areas of
our lives like. I might take something from this

(46:58):
that doesn't have to do with cleaning and apply it to
something else, like the Michael's inventory concept.
I might take that on my walk. Yeah, in the game application
Journey Notebook. Like some stuff that we came up
in with in certain games. I'm using as general examples,
but for different for different games.

(47:19):
Just for your everyday life or you know the different parts of
a game, not specific games. Yeah, Well, are you guys ready
for? The last round, yes.
Yeah, this is 3 minutes to prepare.

(47:42):
My mom is screaming. I think there's a football game
going. On There's always a football
game going on. Your mom watches football.
She watches the Hawkeyes and shegets very animated.
I have never seen a football game in my life.
I have to see them every Saturday now because it's fall
and this happens every year at the pool store.
But you're not really watching them.

(48:03):
You're just they're kind of happening.
I'm. Starting to understand what's
going on a little bit. They throw a ball, they make
goal. Points.
Somebody asked me who's winning and I said, you see that guy
holding the ball there that people are running after?
I think he is. And then I looked at the scoring
at the bottom and I was right. I was like, look, he's at the 10
and they're at the six. I think they are based on the

(48:27):
color of his uniform. I was kind of learning some
stuff. I think he's waiting.
Listen to a sports podcast and Istill don't know the first thing
about any sport. Talk to.
Somebody who's really passionateabout it, like one of my Co
workers who used to play football and is focused more on
soccer now. Like, he gets really animated

(48:47):
and excited and he won't look atyou like you're dumb.
If you have questions, he'll be excited to tell you about, like,
so here's what's going on and most of what he says doesn't
make sense. But I'm like, talk to somebody
who enjoys it. Yeah, if you want it.
All right. Sorry, Sean.
All right, 3 minutes starting inthree.
Wait, wait, no, no. What is the last?
Round it's the advertising. Oh.

(49:09):
Advertising, trailers, forums, videos, guides, tutorials,
reviews, interviews, anything goso promotional material.
Yes. All right.

(49:30):
Ready. Gentle Mom.
OK. After a long day at wake you
after a long day at work, you want to go home, but then you
drive by and decide to go anywhere else.
Why is this? Life is stressful when you
notice the home nest is a rat's nest.
Does your home feel like a weekend getaway or the place
from which you wish to get away?Big Things only is the game for

(49:53):
you to help you focus on the biggest chaos in your day-to-day
life. Start with the big things and
then do the other big things. You'll notice there's not that
much to do. Big things only.
There are only no there are no small messes.
Track your progress and considerinvesting in some of our helpful
merchandise. A Big Things Only log book that
shows the progress bar of your choice on every page.

(50:15):
Pie charts, timelines, and otherhelpful ways of seeing where
you're going, plus small sections of the bottom for bonus
quests. You can share this with your
friends and have them take the journey with you.
Big things only. Nice.
Duolingo was about to kill Michael.
Yeah, I know. That was good.
All right, Michael. You ready, Marco?

(50:41):
Why aren't you wearing any pants?
What I am I'm wearing shorts. Where I come from, that's called
promiscuity. Are Are you ready?
I don't even know why that made sense.
Are you ready? Yeah.
Cleaning doesn't have to be a chore.

(51:04):
Introducing the Maiden Master 3000, your ultimate cleaning
companion. Load it up.
Don't question why there's a hair dryer here.
Load it up and let the adventurebegin.

(51:25):
It's a broom. OK, I didn't see the.
Rest of the. Broom.
Toilet Bowl Cleaner with the Maiden Master 3000.
You have all your cleaning essentials right at your
fingertips. Da da da.
I can check all these chores offwith ease.

(51:53):
Hooray. No more forgetting what needs to
be done. Show a family happily cleaning
together using their own maiden Master 3000 backpacks.
They high five each other as they complete tasks.
It's fun for the whole family. The Maiden Master 3000 Making.

(52:16):
Cleaning Easier, efficient, and enjoyable.
Now let's hear some words from our happy customers.
Here's one from Jane. Oh.
I used to dread cleaning days, but the Maiden Master 3000 has
changed the game. It makes cleaning fun and I no

(52:39):
longer forget which tasks I needto tackle.
Highly recommend Mike. I was a busy professional.
Time is precious. The Maiden Master 3000 helps me
clean my apartment in record time.
It's a lifesaver. Emily, the environmentally
conscious and the Maiden Master 3000 encourages me to use eco

(53:00):
friendly cleaning products. I love its sustainability angle,
Dave. My kids actually fight over who
gets to use the Maiden Master 3000 on cleaning days.
It's like a game for them and myhouse has never been cleaner.
You know that these are real customers.
You know you want to get it. Get the Maiden Master 3000 and

(53:23):
all the cleaning supplies have fallen out.
But you get the point. You won it.
You get it, you got it. Maiden Master 3000 Use gamify
this for 25% off. Well, those, those real
customers must have been his beta testers, because he only
just pitched this product today.Yeah, and just came.
Up with it today. Oh my gosh, those guys.

(53:45):
Those were those were really good.
That would have been difficult for me to judge.
Puzzles. Choice of clothing, guys.
I went all in for that. I saw that, that's what.
Well, that's what we want to seemore of the action.
I'm tallying up the final pointsthe.
Movement the Happy the The accessories, demonstrations.

(54:08):
Improvisation. We got a couple more Spotify
reviews and we're now at 4.9 stars instead of 4.7.
We'll get to that fifth star. We'll get there.
This guy really threw us off. This guy needs to apologize.
I bet it was your dad, Sean. Oh my goodness, is it a time?

(54:29):
No, it isn't. But I kind of want to shut over.
Do you want to overrule your ownjudgment?
Because you can. We don't know.
We want to. I think there's a turret, I
think. It's deserving, but.
But Michael, I want you to. I want you to edit this in
somehow. I'm gonna Yeah, share your

(54:50):
screen. He's so proud of this point
system. It's been developing.
We've been developing our point systems.
They're gonna be great when we have actual guest stars on our
show. Whoa, that is pretty close.
But who is blue and who is red? Michael, you are red.
So, unfortunately, but completely fairly, Michael has

(55:15):
won the game. I wish I could see it.
I can't see it. I don't see it.
Yeah, He shared it to our group.He showed it to our group.
The blue line is you and the redline.
Is being disqualified. What?
Yeah, it's not. What are you talking about?
It's not close game anymore. What?

(55:36):
You won by 4 points, Michael. Or with all of the compounding
and random crap that I was doing, that's pretty impressive.
The blue line and the red line are very close together, but the
red line is slightly ahead of the blue line.
I am the red line. You are the blue line.
I won by 4 points. Yay.
For all the compounding that I was doing, I was dealing in six

(55:57):
points per trait. I want to run through this,
Michael. Overall, you got 22 points for
heart, you got. Seven points for applicability,
you got 12 points for originality, 10 points for
delivery and Samuel. You got 23 points for hearts.

(56:22):
So you beat Michael. You beat Michael in the heart,
and you, he beat in the heart. Wow, that's pretty violent.
That should take away some of his heart.
Seven points for originality, 7 points for structure.
What is that? Seven points for delivery and.
So overall those were pretty good, with different focuses and
and strengths and weaknesses andstuff like that.

(56:45):
I shall show you my page for tonight.
M is M is Michael and S is Samuel nice?
I would assume so. Each one of these rows is
around. This is my advertisement down
here and these are the. These are the core attributes
that I was looking. For sweet it's.
Awesome. Also, you guys both got four
points for diversity with. The With the different things,

(57:09):
different things you were havinggoing on in the game at the same
time, I thought those were pretty cool.
But as we all know, the points are meaningless.
And everything is arbitrary. What?
What really matters? One of my six favorites of those
six options. I was going to say it was my
favorite, but it's actually one of my 6 favorites of those six.
I guess if then if then all of them are a lot.

(57:31):
So we're playing the right game.I did want to say that you guys
each had -1 point for delivery at one point during this time
because OK for for saying arm orfor pausing.
In round two, Samuel rambled a little long, and in round three.
Michael rambled a little bit long, but my trailer and my and

(57:54):
my customer reviews, it was everything you asked for.
Well, was I only supposed to pick one?
It was, man, was everything about it.
Oh, it is really good. It was really good. 20 seconds
too long. It was more than we were
prepared before. I mean you.
Still made you win. I felt like that was what got
you. Past the finish line, I thought

(58:15):
I was. Gonna win that was just.
Pulled that backpack on me and then that.
Was an extremely creative thing.I think the customer reviews
were the first thing he did and then he decided to do the
backpack of the icing and he waslike, OK, I'm gonna start with
his backpack and then going to customer reviews and surprise
him. That's exactly what happened.
But that's the same two voices for all.

(58:38):
No I didn't. I did 4 different voices.
Okay, There was a Southern man, an old lady, a Southern man, a
nerd in two. Different brands.
Oh yeah, you did have the nerd dad.
Yeah, that's true. But as far as the audience is
concerned, they can choose theirown winner.
They can use whatever works bestfor them.

(58:59):
Head down, The points matter. Did we even explain in this
episode what the points in Winner even mean?
It means that I get to host the next episode.
That's what it means, but it means nothing to the audience
unless they really like it. When I host then it means
everything to them. That's that we're hosting.

(59:22):
That's what they came for. It all matters.
All right. Thank you for joining us on this
episode of Gamify This. We've covered several ways to
gamify your housekeeping. Take what you will from this
experience from Michael's Games and Samuel's Games.
Take your ideas into your own life.
Modify them. Thank you Michael and Samuel for

(59:45):
joining me as Co Hostess. Wait, Samuel was in a wonderful
water world today. Yep.
And I'm. I'm in candle hell.
Go check down the polls. Oh.
Samuel really wants to be acknowledged.
Samuel gets to go on everywhere.It's Moser Meadows records and
he gets on Instagram. Instagram is that thing right

(01:00:08):
there. Sam Mccloud's Tuner Michael gets
to go on Twitch and YouTube as Puzzle MTM and I get to go on
YouTube as Puzzle M 10 times. Well, if you want, we can, we
can make a joint channel. I'll be the puzzle.
You can be the MTM. Well, or it could be called

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Puzzle and Friends. Thank you guys for joining us
and we will see you next time. And as we always say at the end
of these episodes, game over. Oh girl, Game over.

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Next time on Game of Five this join as I host and Sean and
Samuel compete to win the next episode as they do a not so
familiar spin on a familiar impromptu game.
Can you guess what it'll be? How?

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About you.