May 31, 2025 • 53 mins
Nerds vs. Numbers vs. Nonsense (No calculators were harmed… but Samuel’s sanity is TBD.)
In Episode 23 of Gamify This, Samuel takes the equation wheel for Gamify Math, and his patience is already divided by zero. As host, he battles rising irritation while rivals Sean and Puzzle compete to turn numbers into nail-biters. Puzzle, self-proclaimed “Math Overlord,” fights for nerdy glory, while Sean stares blankly at variables, pitching a game he doesn’t understand (but swears is “art”).
Will Puzzle’s ruthless quest for victory trig-ger Samuel into throwing a whiteboard marker? Can Sean’s abstract chaos accidentally innovate math gamification? Or will Samuel snap and declare all math CANCELLED? Grab your graphing calculators (or just a stress ball) and tune in—where x = rage, y = confusion, and the solution is pure comedy.
Thumbnail art by: https://www.youtube.com/@MoserMeadowsRecords
Video Edited by: https://www.youtube.com/@PuzzleEmptyM
SOCIALS:
Puzzle:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PuzzleEmptyM
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/puzzleemptym/
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/puzzleemptym
Sean:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tentinypotatos4851
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/tentinypotatos343
Samuel:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MoserMeadowsRecords
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samuelclaus2ner
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/baconsnack6
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Intro
(02:13) Sean's daily gamification
(09:50) Puzzle almost DIED today.
(18:20) Samuel's New Year's Resolution
(22:06) Gamify This: Math
(24:55) ROUND ONE: Elevate and Mult-imp-lication?
(28:53) Sharing personal stories about math
(33:50) ROUND TWO: Pagan Poop
(39:24) Time for a poooop quuiiizzzz
(43:58) ROUND THREE: Make Math a more necessary evil
(50:08) The final score and the WINNER!
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
Samuel, can you get this episodestarted?
Can you do the intro and get us on our small talk?
He doesn't even have headphones on right now.
He doesn't know what we're saying.
I heard what you said. Samuel, sit down.
We're running out of time. What are you?
Doing I'm working on my twerking.
That's not even twerking. We're on stream.
(00:22):
Do you see the live recording thing at the very top and the
number next to it? Yeah, OK, We are live on Twitch
and there are nine people watching.
Oh wow, you've got followers. There are.
Yes, I have 213 followers. I have nothing wrong with people
seeing me twerk. I do, it's my channel.
(00:43):
You didn't tell me you're streaming.
Yes, I did like 4 times. Because I'm scared.
I don't actually know whether he's really mad at me.
I'm. Not really.
I thought you were. Welcome back to Gamify This, the
podcast game show featuring the artist Samuel the gamer Sean the
(01:10):
Nerd puzzle. Join us as we compete to come up
with the best gamify solutions to our daily experiences in
Gamify This. Welcome back to Gamify this.
I'm Samuel and I'm going to be your host today.
Gathered with me are our regularCo hosts, Sean and the notorious
(01:33):
puzzle. I'm notorious.
For a reason. I don't think that's encouraging
to our viewers. That goes into the bonus segment
for our Patreon subscribers. We are going to gamify a
specific topic, but it is a practice for us to try to make
(01:53):
more fun of our everyday life. Oh no, you're already butchering
it. Keep going.
Which means that hopefully we have been gamifying our lives as
we go. Before we get into given
specific topic that I'm going toforce on these people, we're
going to share games that we've made of our lives.
Who wants to go first? Who's Who's made a game of their
(02:16):
life? I'll go.
OK, Sean, tell me. OK.
Sean, you go. Well I made a nice old game out
of having a falling out with oneof my friends because everything
went amazing and he hates me andI'm having fun with it because
it's a game. I thought you said he doesn't
(02:36):
actually hate you, he just can'tbe friends with you.
Also, that sounded very sarcastic.
It was it was something like that.
I don't think he actually hates me.
He says he's open to a friendship, but he's also a
complete idiot. And also he left the gaming
group. Yeah.
People are. He had other friends in that
group and he's like, well, I guess Sean Sean's in there, so I
(02:58):
can't. Oh gosh.
I'm sorry, Sean, I don't get howdo you win this?
I was going to say, is there anything that you well, what's
the? Objective.
What are? What are the things you can do
or that you've thought of doing?The objective is survive.
What needs to survive? Your friendship, your guttural
(03:19):
feelings, your your self esteem.I would like to rekindle the
friendship with this guy. It involves like saying sorry
for something I did because I had a principle and I felt like
I needed to do it in my conscience.
(03:40):
So like. Don't apologize for having you
say it. Hinges on an apology, like
verbatim. Basically.
OK, Yeah, no. And to the audience, like we all
know what Sean's talking about. We're not going to share it.
But like, I know, I know the situation and it's not something
that he needs to apologize for. It's it's a church leadership
(04:00):
thing. And so it's like, it's very
icky. And this is a lot of like, but
anyway, I can't stand down. He's open to the friendship if I
admit that I was wrong. That's not a friendship that
(04:23):
he's asking for. No it isn't.
That wouldn't be the result either.
He wants it to hinge on dishonesty, so that's not going
to go anywhere. So I have recently been
gamifying my life by enhancing my abilities, by by dwelling on
the fact of like, Oh yeah, you're stupid and that's helping
(04:46):
me. No, it's not.
I think that honestly like this,this, this is like how you feel
in this moment right now. But I feel in large you have
been on a progressional Rd. thatI feel like you've made a lot of
accomplishments and you've had alot of success managing
yourself, which is very important.
(05:07):
Like the way that you've navigated everything with your
ex and the way you've talked about it.
Like I feel like you've been handling things in a more of a
mature way. And also in your friendships
with us and your anger issues, you've been talking through it
and you've been giving very specific responses to the things
I've thrown at you of like, if you're not serious then I don't
(05:32):
care. And if this isn't going to help
me, this is like you worded out very well.
So sorry, you're not going to get anything but words about
formation for me unless I feel like I need to poke some sort of
bear. Oh no, a good person.
That actually helps me feel better.
I I think I understand what you said.
Do you mean like you're not going to mess with my buttons?
(05:54):
I I said I might or might not mess with your buttons, but I
will like if you feel bad about yourself, give you words of
affirmation. He wants to be.
I'm trying to be a good person. That has been one of the games I
have been playing is puzzle. Thank you, Sean for sharing that
puzzle. Tell me before.
(06:15):
We move on. To me, I'm honestly curious like
if, if, if, aside from that whole situation anywhere else in
your life, is there like anything in your life that
you've gamified, applied games to even without realizing it?
I mean, I mean, any times you'venoticed that?
Oh yes, there is a very positivedevelopment.
Please don't be sarcastic again.No, I'm not this this is
(06:36):
genuine. I'm convinced I I I have a
friendship that's been deepeninga mutual like a friend I met
through my ex and I recently went up to Illinois from
Oklahoma to visit her again. We work pretty similarly, our
(06:58):
brains work pretty similarly andwe can communicate very well and
help each other out a lot. And we do a lot of successful
and profitable introspection with each other.
How to be OK basically. And talking stuff out with her
has given me techniques to understand myself.
(07:20):
I'm much more emotionally intelligent with myself now.
I. Emotional intelligence.
Yeah. We talked about that on.
Philosophical. Yeah.
ET, home phone. AT phone home shown the.
ETET phone home home phone from.ETI am a really good now
comparatively. I'm a lot better at detecting
(07:43):
what I'm feeling, when I'm feeling it, why I'm feeling it,
and I'm a lot better at, withoutany shame, coming up with a way
to help. I'm better at asking for help.
I'm better at being honest with others and myself.
What? Was the markers smell?
(08:03):
I don't. Is it the markers?
I was like, there's something sticky.
I remember puzzle mentioning something sticky or other.
Oh, the pay. Look how nicely it shows up.
Oh, it does. I've upgraded my emotional
radar. I've been workshopping it with
myself and my friends. So that's one way I've been
(08:28):
gamifying. When the beat drops, I get
happy. Listen to music.
We are going to move on. I'm not hosting.
It's your job today, Samuel, andyou never even explained the
whole hosting passing the crown thing at the beginning.
Oh, I forgot we were supposed todo that.
I format my explanation of the podcast how I see fit to format
the I'm the One hosting right now puzzle.
(08:50):
I think I've made that part clear.
Haven't I made that part clear? No, because it's all about your
stream and what you're doing right now.
Anyway, like I said, I'm workingon being a better person.
They're joking with each other right now I'm translating for
the normal people. The winner of the podcast,
meaning the one who what the main game.
(09:10):
We're just having a discussion right now.
We're we're gamifying our lives.Sean is still trying to figure
out what that means. All of us are.
We're taking it from different perspectives, and when we win,
that's going to be based on the specific topic I'm going to
choose. But right now they're sharing
topics that have come up in their lives that they're trying
to navigate. And we've been using the
techniques that we've learned from Game of Fight This to make
(09:33):
games. And we got to pick up the pace a
little bit because Sean is talking about his feelings,
which is important, which we do on philosophical, which I can
edit the heck out of and trim down to AT Anyway, we care about
each other, and Puzzle is going to tell me something he's been
gamifying. So I almost died today.
What? Highway on the way here after on
(09:56):
the way. No on the way to the apartment
from here. So I'm currently moving from
this house and we're doing a lotof packing up and stuff.
One of the things we did was we got new couch and the new couch
is in three giant boxes and eachof them was 100 lbs.
So this couch is £300. Oh, you got your couch now?
It's in three pieces and they'reall.
(10:17):
Each of those boxes is 94 lbs and so one trip I brought two of
the boxes and then this trip I brought one of the boxes and my
TVI have a 65 inch flat screen TV.
I wanted to use the package thatthe TV came in, but we've had
that box in the garage and we have an outdoor garage that's
not connected to the house and it's full of dirt and leaves.
(10:39):
So I changed my mind about usingthat box.
I was like, you know what, I'll just put the TV on top of this
box in the back of the car, OK. And it'll, it'll stay there.
It won't slide around a lot 'cause there's a, we have a wall
mount. You put hooks on the back of the
TV and the, the hooks go into the arm.
And what I did was I pierced those hooks into the cardboard
(11:00):
box so that the TV wouldn't movevery much.
The fact that the TV was just there, not protected, not
padded, nothing, just kind of there in the back.
I was anxious driving and Jesse was like.
Just. Take deep breaths and we'll be
there in no time. I was like, yeah, but and I was
really tense driving. So we're going on 51, which is
(11:22):
the worst highway in Tulsa, and it's very bendy and people have
this much merge room. The merges are shorter than the
exits themselves, and they just have to get into the highway or
get plastered into the wall. So we're going down the highway
and I'm really anxious because the TV is balancing the back.
Everyone's spaced out. Everyone's going about 65 and
(11:45):
we're going on these turns and then a truck in the lane to my
right, but in front of me he hasa giant like chest freezer, fell
out of the back of his truck andlanded in the highway.
And all the cars stopped from 65to nothing and seeing all that
movement and then just everything stopping and there
(12:08):
was no windows for me to go to. And the person, the person
behind me was on my tail like the entire drive.
And I I they do. Tailgaters are idiots, there's
no good reason for it. I had a bunch of space in front
of me because I'm a defensive driver.
Even though I'm a risky driver, I'm still defensive.
So I was able to slow down a little slower than the person in
(12:31):
front of me who just went from 65 to a stop.
I had some time to cushion the stop and the person behind me
somehow didn't hit me. We came to a complete stop with
this giant chest freezer in the highway and of course Jesse and
I are screaming. And so the rest of the drive was
just silent and just both of us like driving in silence the rest
(13:00):
of the way home. But it would.
Have been like the 25th SUV you guys accidentally broke on while
you were moving. Yeah, that was the second one.
But yeah, this has become a pattern.
But I immediately was like, do you think this is a
manifestation of my anxiety? Do you think if I hadn't
worried, this wouldn't have happened?
And Jesse was like, probably. And so I was like, OK, I won't
(13:23):
worry. And I didn't worry.
And the rest of the drive went OK.
Because you know what? Tent driving is a lot worse than
relaxed driving. I didn't cause the freezer to
fall off the other truck, but look at it.
But it it, it was a good reminder of you never know
what's going to happen and the thing that you're worried about
happening won't happen. Something worse will happen.
(13:45):
Oh gosh, which is the TV? OK.
Oh, the TV's fine. Yeah.
The thing I was worried about was just taking a turn too sharp
and D like part of the TV, not achest freezer falling off of a
truck into the middle of the highway.
OK, Puzzle. Thank you for keeping that
concise. You know, something I just
(14:06):
thought about. I used to worry about you a lot.
I used to like, stay up at nightworrying about you.
I used to worry about you throughout the day.
I'm like, I hope he's safe. I hope he doesn't die.
No, I don't care. He's in dangerous places, doing
dangerous things, and now I'm just like, I don't have the
energy for that. I don't worry.
You got through that. You got through that.
I saw you again. You're fine.
(14:28):
I'm glad you guys were OK. I thought you were going to say
something along the lines of youunderstand how I work and and
how I process emotions after times of stress.
And that you, yeah, you believe in me and you trust me.
You know that I'll work in timesof stress.
Well, not that you don't care anymore.
That's exact that. No, that's exactly what I was
saying. To be accurate.
(14:50):
That was exactly what I was saying.
I was just using different phraseology, but that was what I
was trying to all right. So I gave them by stuff puzzle
game that that sounded more observational than game
efficacy. The game that I've been playing
is big things only, which is your game about cleaning.
That's been my moving game. We've been moving big stuff 1st
and we're going to move all the little stuff later.
(15:11):
You guys suck. You.
Guys suck. I ask you for one thing, you
give me a whole bunch of stuff until I am exhausted listening
to it and zoning out of it. And then then you give me the
thing that I asked for. I don't even know how to give
you guys points. I want to take points away from
(15:32):
you because of this. Do it take my points, see if I
can? I was getting ready to give you
a point because you were starting to describe how you
meticulously you spent so much time describing how meticulously
you put the TV. Into the box I.
Thought you were getting to something there.
The the point of that was, was to give you the sudden, oh, it
(15:56):
was something else that because that's what my brain had to go
through. I was so worried about the TV
and then this random freezer falls out in the highway and
everyone has to just stop. I'm working on being a better
person. You guys really do suck.
Sean, you did not get any points.
You just complained. Puzzle, you almost got a point.
(16:18):
But I'm really mad at you for wasting time.
I'm playing big things. Only.
Yes, one sentence. I've been playing big things
only, and I'm glad about that. You got a point.
I also thought maybe there was something to how you came up
with a solution for putting the television in the box.
I want to know what your mindsetwas around that.
You wanted to know what you wantto know.
(16:38):
I didn't want to know. Now I'm running out of mental
space for it. So we should probably move on to
the main segment. Sean, thank you for sharing your
story, though I'm interested to know how your friendship
continues to go with this other person.
Like you've opened another chapter and that's fun.
And how do you journal? Yeah, well, OK.
The thing is, I don't want to waste any more of your time.
(17:00):
It's my turn now. Oh, well, it's it's technically
our time. I love you, Samuel.
I just don't like you right now.It's always your turn.
It's your podcast, it's your host.
You're hosting this episode. You can change the entire format
if you. Want do you feel like I don't
care about your story because itdidn't fit the game?
Like it's like. Well, it.
Just wasn't the assignment. But I do care.
Like I did want you to share your life with me.
(17:22):
Yeah, that's kind of how it cameacross and I understand that's
not what you meant. So if you're playing this the
the game where you put the baby blocks in the shapes.
Where you put the baby in the washer.
You put the baby blocks in the shapes and then someone hands
you a painting. It's like this is a beautiful
painting but I cannot get any points with this.
It doesn't fit in these little block holes.
(17:43):
I go to the movie theatre and I see the poster for a movie I
really want to watch. I'm going in there and you have
the little light up signs that show which movies showing when
and where. I have my ticket and I go and I
go in there and it's this reallycool action film, but.
Like it's not the same movie youwant to just.
Keep trying to watch Wicked. You know, it's that's that's how
(18:05):
it is. Like I care about that, but
it's, I don't know how to it wasn't, it wasn't what I asked
for. Yeah, OK.
And. There's nothing wrong with what
you said, you just don't get a point for it.
That's a puzzle. Your story was really
interesting too. All right.
I have been gamifying every year.
At the start of the year, I re resolve to be more
(18:29):
introspective. Davinci Resolve Yes, I want to
be introspective across the year.
And it's sort of like that gym. You know, we're going to go to
the gym, I'm going to go to the gym, I'm going to get in shape
this year. What I like to do is journal and
I like almost in journal of all this year.
And then in the middle I was like, I'm feeling emotional
about stuff, I want to write about it.
(18:49):
And I got kind of stuck on certain chapters.
So I wanted to get calendar thatshows me each day something new
to do and some inspiration. But I also got a planner so that
I can look ahead and like when am I going to release the
philosophical stuff? And I'm trying to intentionally
get myself to get up in the morning and read my planner and
(19:15):
re evaluate and make sure that I'm on track.
And every night before I go to bed or in bed, I have to journal
like 1 little segment. So that's the game I've been
playing and so far my journalingstreak has been.
Sorry I tried to burp and I if Igrew up a little bit.
(19:39):
You said that 5 minutes ago. I'm going to get some OW.
Everything hurts. I want, OK, So what I really
want this year is to be guided. And one thing that I've done as
a road map for myself is be morepublic about my goals and plans
as the year goes by. And I just started a monthly
(19:59):
newsletter that I formatted likea, like a newspaper.
And I'm calling it the Moser Meadows Monthly.
What we're going to do every month is go to the art crawl and
just hand these out, whether I make caricatures or not.
And I even got somebody in Broken Arrow to hand them out at
a comedy show. But it starts out like that.
(20:19):
So it's like that headliner kindof the main things that I want
people to know that's coming up like this year in the coming
months and everything. And then down here, a little bit
about myself. My girlfriend helped me come out
with some of the formatting. And then there's like fake
reviews, very funny fake reviewsto say Simon needs better
reviews. And I want to make these
(20:41):
available like on my website andstuff too, like my monthly
newsletter puzzle, and are goingto figure out how to do that
just like a little more. The headline story continues
talking about my commentary on BU That's going to come out in
January. It's so weird because this
podcast is going to come out like in August.
(21:02):
This this episode is going to come out like August and then a
bit about our podcast philosophical Sean.
As I continue to make those monthly updates, it'll help me
stay on track and everybody elsein the world will be reminding
me. And just like heart built,
they're going to be TikTok trailblazing.
This yet another. Leave.
(21:23):
It every time I say. Yeah.
So Sean has 40 minutes left. I have an unlimited amount of
time, but I'm sorry that things have been.
We haven't done this in a while.I'm going to apologize to
everyone and God. I'm going to apologize to God.
(21:49):
Sean, sometimes we sound angry and we're really not genuine,
OK? It's all it's all good fun.
Yeah, Oh yeah. The thing is just like it's
sometimes you are angry though and it's really difficult to
tell, but I'm getting better at it.
I have anger issues too. Oh.
All right, so the part that I can actually crown somebody the
winner of is we're going to play3 rounds and we're going to
(22:14):
gamify a topic. And I use this spinner.
It's a wheel of subjects to figure out what we're going to
gamify today. So are you guys ready?
All right, gamify this math? No.
Yay, no. Yay.
(22:35):
OK, so for the first draft, OK, none of us really likes math, do
we? I I math clicks with me.
I love math, but I don't like talking about it or explaining
it. It's like a, it's like a guilty
pleasure, so. The way that I view gamify this,
(22:57):
like we want to take a subject that we do not enjoy.
Math is like an achievement. It's something you can get
better at, but it does have thisfeeling of necessary evil, kind
of like I did that or whatever. And if it feels that way, what
we want to do is make it feel less shame.
Take that out. Take that out.
I converted math into chocolate and since then I've enjoyed math
(23:19):
like the feeling, the I get excitement out of doing math.
How are you going to turn math into something fun?
And you're going to have a game that you can play to apply to
the times that you are faced with.
Let's not say faced with math atwork or math in your real life.
Let's just say you're doing mathproblems as a practice and
(23:41):
you're going to turn it into something fun for this first
round, and I am going to give you 5 minutes to come up with
your first math game. Does that sound good?
Look, that's way too much time. It's too much time.
Sometimes it's not enough time, I'll say.
Well, if there's three rounds. 4minutes go.
That's still too much time if there's three rounds and.
(24:01):
Do you think you can come up with anything in one minute?
Why do you not let me host? It it breaks the cadence, it
breaks the flow when one person is presenting for a really long
time and then another. Person is in the presentation.
Time is going to be 30 seconds. OK now get going.
OK. I have never been so mad on this
podcast. I don't know if that's true
(24:21):
actually. I have not exploded with anger
now I'm playing simmers, I'm playing the game in my mind.
I'm walking on the Lavik floors and I'm not going to let this
water boil. I'm only going to let it simmer.
I'm going to control. I'm listening to.
(24:45):
What am I listening to? Samuel, you stressed Sean so
hard he's at a different camera angle.
All right, put your pencils down.
Who's ready? I am.
I'm ready. All right, Sean gets a point for
preparedness. All righty, Sean.
(25:05):
I guess it doesn't matter that Iwas ready before the entire.
I know, but you didn't call it all.
Right, my game is called Multiplication.
All right, so here's the dealio.Each lesson is a level, and each
time you read the book or watch the video, that's like watching
(25:28):
the mission prepared screen. And each worksheet is a level.
And the problems you encounter are the Imps who come at you and
go. And each imp has a potential for
three points. One, if you eventually get it
correct, 2 if you can get it correct the first time, and
three if you can get it correct the first time and fast.
(25:51):
So very. Nice.
Yes, I I liked it. Did I?
I liked the name and I liked that you were ready with it.
And I think it had levels, so that was pretty cool.
And I like the word imp. So you even had names for your
player characters? Imagine like Mario, where it's
like a two-dimensional thing. You're going through the levels
(26:12):
and you're killing the Goombas. How do you do that with your
life? Is it like on graph?
Paper this is like a mindset andyou keep track of the points you
set, like how many points you could get for this worksheet,
this level with all of the problems, and then you keep your
points calculated so you see howwell you did at the end.
(26:36):
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criticize him? All right, Yeah, go ahead and
(28:03):
criticize him. That wasn't exactly a game, and
it wasn't exactly yours. It's literally a game and it's.
Literally on topic. It's literally on topic.
It's literally what I was thinking about as soon as we
delved into this top subject. It's the kind of thing I want
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you to come up with, but I also want you to come up with
something new IT. Doesn't it doesn't have to be
completely. Novel.
And I'm making the rules for this game.
That's why I'm asking you. Oh yes.
You can't specify that. It's a game you're already
playing and which is great. I mean, I want you to keep
playing it. But if you have new alternative
math ideas to make math fun, yes, lean in to elevate.
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Absolutely. Do the math practices every day
and it is free. I'll give you a point for that.
I want you guys just for about 5minutes to share a story about a
time that math has been a good experience for you.
I shared mine about the association with chocolate.
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I started just eating chocolate when I was doing math
specifically and no other time. And so I'll get excited because
math was chocolate time, and thechocolate bar can sometimes look
like a calculator who's got a story.
I kind of do because in high school I thought I was going to
become a mechanical engineer forhigh school.
I went to computer engineering instead, but I really wanted to
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complete calculus before graduating and that was a
challenge. That was something I had to
prepare for all my years of highschool.
I had to line things up so that I did pre algebra, algebra,
algebra to geometry, trigonometry before calculus and
I made it a game. And since calculus was like this
abstract thing that I knew nothing about, I was putting on
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this really high pedestal of like this will be the epitome of
math. This will be my final experience
of math. This will and it'll be my senior
year. It'll be amazing.
And I did all these math leaningleading up to it.
So in senior year, I could do calculus and it just so happened
that we had an extracurricular calculus class on our campus
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that different levels of high school could do together.
And it was like this elite club of calculus people who met at a
certain time every week. And we were, it wasn't like the
seniors or the juniors, it was people mixed in and it was this
calculus club. And I aced the class and it was
everything I hoped it would be. That's nice, I like that.
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I wasn't everything I hoped I would because I didn't become a
mechanical engineer. I became a computer engineer.
Anyway, good experience, it was fun and I did well and it was a
good class. Sean The.
Coolest thing that ever happenedto me in math was that one time
I did a worksheet 2 years ago and I actually enjoyed it.
Was it pre algebra? Was it like getting into algebra
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for the first time and like understanding it for the first
time? I think so.
Math has always been the thing at the start of my school day
that is like the thing I want toget done.
And so I think the satisfaction was actually that I had got it
done at the time I wanted to andI felt like I was on track to
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finish what I needed to finish that day.
So it was more in the reward than the thing itself.
Unfortunately now the cool thingthat happened to me once is
barely involves math, but it waswhen when we realized that there
were 8 quarts of oil in our 5 quart tank.
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How? A lot of buildup or something?
Because your car doesn't produceoil?
How do you accidentally put too much oil in?
We thought it was empty, so we put more in it.
Oh no. This is when it was like leaking
horribly and we I did not know that it could completely stop
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dripping oil when it still had oil in it.
Finally using them relevantly puzzle, Yeah, that wasn't very
smooth it. Was better than the last several
times. So like dad and I one day
because we've had horrible oil leaks and we were on our way to
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the shop or whatever to get. I'm transitioning into a into a
atmosphere like. Here's the story.
We were going to this shop. I hadn't checked the oil for
like, well, I had checked it. I didn't see anything on the
stick and it was not dripping. We assumed that it was empty.
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Apparently there's oil underneath where you usually see
it. Here's the connection with Math.
OK, where? Where's the connection?
The connection is that it's a 5 quart tank and we did our
addition wrong and put 8 quarts in there.
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So we did our math problem wrongbut it led to a disaster and but
the fun part was taking the oil out of the car.
But that has nothing to do with math, so.
That sounds a lot like a lot of fun.
I really, I really enjoyed it. I am, I am a manly man.
I like cars. So Samuel, are you trying to
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like fill time with this? Are you like trying to prepare
something or did you have we're?Going somewhere around the pop
quiz for later and I'm enjoying your all's stories.
All right, you guys ready for Round 2?
We're going to do something a little different for round two.
OK, Are you ready? You were ready.
I want you guys to come up with a very fun, interactive, kid
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friendly, adult friendly, ADHD friendly math textbook all
about. Oh, he made dice musical.
Poop. I'm going to give you 3 minutes
to prepare it. OK?
Prepare it together. What the Frick?
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I want you to come up with your own books.
Or do you want to work together?I want to work together.
All right, do this one collaboratively.
All right, Sean. What's it called?
Draw IO or something like that we can draw together.
What, what what? What if you make your own
equations and you have terms on dice that you roll to create the
problem that you solve? OK, OK, OK, let's keep going.
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Unfortunately, we need to put music and poop in here out of
everyone poop. The The thing is, you got poop
in your brain and doing the mathproblems that you create helps
get the poop out of your brain. That's what's going on.
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OK. And there's.
A poop in your brain. Got it.
And you, you need to, you need to sing to the.
I don't know what to do man. And and wait, no, no, you said
there were there. You said there were die that we
roll. Yeah, there are die that we roll
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with terms with, with terms and things that you you do like with
like divide signs and multiplication signs and like
fractions and. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
So so so. This is not a textbook.
This is a game. But this is like, this is like
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numbers. No, no.
No, no. But the thing with the textbook
this is. Symbols.
The thing with the textbook is yes, yes, yes.
And then you roll them together.Yes, yes.
And the thing with the textbook is that you have a place to
write out the whole equation. So you you have a place to write
the equation, then you have a place to solve it.
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You you have the workspace underneath the.
And if you buy the algebra upgrade.
Yes, you buy the and. If you buy the calculus upgrade.
Yeah. I don't remember any other
calculus symbols. And the whole objective that's
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going on with all of this is to get the poop out of your brain.
That's the whole objective of the of the entire textbook.
Because the poop is the not smart stuff.
OK. You're learning the smart
getting the poop out and you you're saying to the dice to
make them work like like religious.
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It's it's like Pagan religion, right.
So you like, you like sing to them and then you throw them.
And thank you for your illustrations, Michael this.
Is the textbook where you input the input from the dice and this
is where you put. The answer and and and Michael,
the lessons tell you how to use one of the sides of the dice.
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Lessons. OK, dice I that that.
That's good guys. Great job.
This great job. And it's called Pagan poop
religion with. Mass time.
Time is up. No, no more input.
OK, this makes so much sense I'm.
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Going to save it as. You know what?
I would have. Done.
You know what I would have done with that prompt?
You know what I would have done with that prompt?
I I really like your idea, Shawn.
I think we actually do need to make this textbook now, like
each thing that we've gamified, we have to make a game, a
shareable game out of each of these things, starting with the
most recent. So we have to make a textbook
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following a character named Brain Poop, and he goes on a
journey to become something else, to escape the brain, to
escape the brain, to escape the brain.
But inside the book, I would have it so that the kids or
adults who are creative get to make their own dices with these,
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whatever it is, But instead of singing to the dice, which I
think it's very weird, John, I don't even know why you shared
it. If it is not good, why you spoke
that into the universe. Now there's a pair.
Now there's an alternative universe where people are
dealing with this. Anyway, end of each.
Chapter Well, The thing is. Hey, hey, hey.
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You wanted to put music in the game, and so I gave it to you.
Yeah, yeah. I probably would have put a song
at the end of each lesson based on the lesson.
Kind of like, kind of like Tolkien randomly has songs in
his, yeah. Books.
But it wouldn't be so random because it's expected.
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It's what the book's about, The singing poop math book.
You guys ready for this? Time for a pop quiz?
We are going to find out. And the people get to vote too.
They're going to pause the podcast after I ask the question
and put in their vote. Oh, I forgot to mention when we
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were sharing our stories. There is actually an e-mail.
You all can share your stories. You the audience can share your
stories to gamifythispodcast@gmail.com.
We want to hear your story abouthow math became an exciting
experience for you. This is an interactive podcast,
just like our math singing Wait.Pagan poop?
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No, that's that's. Called I, I don't, I don't, I
don't want to bring up paganism because that's a real thing.
A textbook is a real thing. If you if you don't want
religion, you can just say that.You don't say don't do it
because it's already a real thing, because a textbook is a
real. Thing I don't, I meant don't
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disreligion like we can't do that.
Don't disreligion. Religion is important to people.
It shouldn't be something that we bring into our games unless
it's the main focus of the game.Do you know how ADHD this
podcast is? I thought we were getting ready
to a pop quiz and like I was saying, there's an interactive
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podcast. So you have the opportunity
right now to do an interaction with us.
I'm going to share 4 things thatthis could be and you're going
to answer which one you think itactually is.
Are you guys ready? Who invented the first handheld
calculator? Was it a Blaise Pascal in 1624B,
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Texas Instruments in 1970, C Bell Punch Co in 1961, or D the
Sumerians between 2 seven, 2700 and 2300 BC?
Are you ready to hear those again?
It was either Blaise Pascal in 1624, Texas Instruments in 1970,
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Bell Punch Co in 1961, or the Sumerian somewhere between 2700
and 2300 BC. The first handheld calculator.
I have an answer. Hold on, the audience needs a
chance to pause the podcast puzzle you were ready with your
answer for. Are we?
Are we going to do the like in the Discord chat?
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If you're interested in participating, put your letter
in the chat and no. No, no, no, no, no.
There's going to be a pull on the Spotify right?
Puzzle 1-2. You ready, Sean?
Three BD. OK.
Why? B.
Because I know the name Texas Instruments and they made the
scientific. Calculator that I have all
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right, Sean. Because oh, look, there's this
picture of somebody ancient people do a lot of stuff that we
don't expect that are like really cool and, and are also
like more modern than they wouldexpect ancient, ancient
technology, archaeology discoveries.
So that I I expect you to be surprised by them now.
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Me too, me too. And here's the thing the
Sumerians are attributed to. We don't know for certain.
Having invented the Abacus, which is handheld sometime
between 2700 and 2300 BC. We're not sure.
We just see pictures of them using it.
Because we don't. Actually know who invented the
Abacus or when, but it is a handheld calculation device.
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But it's not the handheld calculator and it's not called a
calculator. Blaise Pascal.
However, Blaise Pascal invented the mechanical calculator in
1624, but it was not a handheld calculator device either.
Bell Punch Company in 1961 predates the Texas Instruments
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of 1970, and I think that was something like a computer that
you use. However, the first handheld
calculator was invented by TexasInstruments in 1970, according
to my research. I am so proud of this one.
Puzzle gets a point. Wait, only one point.
The The Pop quiz was only worth one point this time.
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How much is it usually worth like?
10. Really.
This time I'd like it to be, butyou can do whatever you want.
You don't know who's in the lead.
Moving on, we are ready for Round 3.
This is the final. The final round point values are
tripled this time. It's like Jack Box.
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It is. It is.
I like Jack Box games. This final round, you've got to
overcome the necessary evil. Math is not going to be boring,
and you're going to convince me that it is not.
And you're going to do that by showing me where you apply math
in an exciting, fun, innovative way without using any
preconceived, I mean any, you know, already existing apps.
(44:32):
It doesn't have to be based on acalculator or a book that you
know about or something. It's going to be entirely puzzle
your invention that makes math unnecessary enjoyment in your
work life. Are you ready to prepare your
idea? I will give you.
I'm cure. I don't, I don't know exactly
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what you mean. Are you talking about a mental
construct that helps you? So think about doing round one
correctly where you're going into your morning and you're
finding a fun way to learn math,but this time you're finding a
fun way to do math in your work life, like problems come up or
whatever, and you're going to beexcited about it, OK?
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Work life. Yep, necessity is the mother of
invention, and you are going to invent necessity.
The mother invention. Come on, Puzzle's already coming
up with this idea I gave you. This time.
You might be ahead, You might bebehind Sean.
Just do your best. OK.
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And that is time. Whatever idea you have, I want
to hear it. If you both agree that you need
more time, I can give you both more time.
But if one of you is ready, timeis up, and it's OK if you didn't
have a very good idea, we'll just run with yours and run with
it boldly. All right.
Tonight. Puzzle Mine is kind of a cop out
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because my job, my main field ofwork, my main field of study for
the past 20 months was being a full time student for a computer
programming school. Computer programming is very
much rooted around math, so it'simportant to know math and you
need to apply it because a computer at its essence is
(46:23):
mathematical. So optimizing algorithms, you
need to have a mathematical mindin order to do that.
Creating functions that calculate things the most
optimal way is mathematic in a sense.
And so, yeah. Boring.
(46:50):
This round was really hard all. Right, son, let's hear your
idea, starting pencil. OK, wait, I can't lose this
episode. I'm the nerd.
I can't lose math. Nerds are meant to win math.
(47:12):
If there's one thing a. Nerd is supposed to do is to win
math. If there's any winning in math,
it's a nerd. Don't take your points away by
complaining. The gamer has a natural affinity
for making games. Which actually is not true,
because I'm the one who has the most trouble with gamify this
for some reason. You're the one who needs.
(47:33):
It the most Yeah, OK, here's but.
Here's the thing. Puzzle.
You were ready first. So you know you at least have
three points, right? Because point values are
tripled, I. Forgot about that.
Yeah. OK, Sean.
Here's my pitch. When you are learning math in
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your schooling system with your ADHD friendly textbook and dice
and stuff, what you are doing isequipping yourself with the
power tools and practicing with them and getting to know them so
that when something happens in real life, you actually know how
to use them. For instance, calculating your
taxes or figuring out where yourmoney is going or doing change
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like nobody uses cash anymore. Unfortunately, you need to know
how to do it. And that is when you whip out
your audition tools and drill that sucker into somebody's
brain. You know how to do it.
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So, and each time a math problemcomes up in your real life, this
is when the little gremlin demonshows up and goes.
Oh, from your first. Game from my first game.
If you treat your life as a big level, every time a gremlin
shows up, it's an opportunity toearn points by doing it right
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and by doing it quickly or just by, you know, doing the thing
you need to do. It's a challenge.
It's meant to be a challenge. It's not impossible because
you're meant to win. And that's the mindset that
needs to go with all of these real life math problems, using
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your tools and your knowledge todefeat the gremlins in front of
you. Yes, you get it.
You get it, Sean. I'm very happy for you.
It took me a while. I know, but you get it.
All right, let me count up your points.
You guys talk to each other about how you feel.
Well, you actually did somethingthere instead of the nothing
that I did. I didn't know what to do and I
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couldn't think. The only reason I didn't do
nothing is because I threw you under the bus and bought myself
more time. Michael, how do you feel knowing
I used? You used.
I'm sorry, but you said you wereproud of me.
I'm proud of you for using me. I'm proud of you for being bold
and brave enough to do such a thing, such a horrible thing to
a person like me, an innocent, innocent person like me.
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Yeah. You know, guys, you both did a
really good job. I mean, Sean didn't get any
points that first round. I mean, it wasn't really a
round, but while we were talkingabout our gamification like he
didn't really know how to turn his life into a game Puzzle did,
but he saved that for the after credits scene for some reason.
Well, Michael, sorry, Samuel, you, you missed an entire
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section where Michael said, did you actually gamify anything?
And I'm like, Oh yeah, I've beenworking on my emotional radar.
Yes, but that was for me and youdidn't share it with me.
I want it to like, I want you toknow that.
I want you to know it so well that it's what you're talking
about. When we get on the podcast,
that's what we're trying to get to and it's a challenge for you,
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which means we are fighting those impetuses.
Empathy. What do you call them?
Imps. Imps.
I like that you had a name for it.
It was. Implied.
Implied. Implied.
But yeah, you got three points. A second round puzzle, barely
got one when you guys shared your stories, Puzzle story was a
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lot more interesting to me than she's because I just saw that he
saw value in math and what it was going to do with his life.
And Sean was like, it was kind of fun, so that was cool.
Oh, those stories. I thought you were saying his
story about the ice fridge was more interesting than my story
about a falling out. I feel like right in the middle,
we had the most fun with the game.
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When I rolled the dice and we were coming up with a textbook.
It was great. The illustration puzzle was
great. That earned you some points,
Sean. You kept having ideas, and even
though I didn't like your ideas,you kept having them and you
were matching them up to make sure you were talking about the
poop and the application part, which was great, getting the
poop out of your brain. And you mentioned the singing,
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even though I didn't like what you did with it.
The history lesson was fun, a puzzle, a great job getting it.
Sean, thank you for participating.
And ultimately, in the final round, I did triple points and
both of you tied the last round.So it was a very, very close
game. I mean, Puzzle got 15 points and
Sean got 13. Oh, I the nerd.
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One math next episode, Puzzle will be our host.
He's going to come up with a funtopic that we're going to have
to follow and come up with a game based on.
You can find Puzzle on Puzzle MTM on Twitch and YouTube and
all kinds of other fun places. He birthed this idea Gamify.
This is his baby. We are his children.
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We are all God's children, and Iam God.
You can find Sean on 10 tiny potato S on YouTube and on
twitch and pretty much every streaming service that he's on,
and I am Moser Meadows records on YouTube and TikTok, which
won't be around when this comes out.
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I'm Samo Claus Tuner with the number 2 on Instagram, and as we
always say at the end of these episodes, game over.
Samuel, can you get this episodestarted?
Can you do the intro and get us on our small talk?
He doesn't even have headphones on right now.
He doesn't know what we're saying.
I heard what you said. Samuel, sit down.
We're running out of time. What are you?
Doing I'm working on my twerking.
That's not even twerking. We're on stream.
(00:22):
Do you see the live recording thing at the very top and the
number next to it? Yeah, OK, We are live on Twitch
and there are nine people watching.
Oh wow, you've got followers. There are.
Yes, I have 213 followers. I have nothing wrong with people
seeing me twerk. I do, it's my channel.
(00:43):
You didn't tell me you're streaming.
Yes, I did like 4 times. Because I'm scared.
I don't actually know whether he's really mad at me.
I'm. Not really.
I thought you were. Welcome back to Gamify This, the
podcast game show featuring the artist Samuel the gamer Sean the
(01:10):
Nerd puzzle. Join us as we compete to come up
with the best gamify solutions to our daily experiences in
Gamify This. Welcome back to Gamify this.
I'm Samuel and I'm going to be your host today.
Gathered with me are our regularCo hosts, Sean and the notorious
(01:33):
puzzle. I'm notorious.
For a reason. I don't think that's encouraging
to our viewers. That goes into the bonus segment
for our Patreon subscribers. We are going to gamify a
specific topic, but it is a practice for us to try to make
(01:53):
more fun of our everyday life. Oh no, you're already butchering
it. Keep going.
Which means that hopefully we have been gamifying our lives as
we go. Before we get into given
specific topic that I'm going toforce on these people, we're
going to share games that we've made of our lives.
Who wants to go first? Who's Who's made a game of their
(02:16):
life? I'll go.
OK, Sean, tell me. OK.
Sean, you go. Well I made a nice old game out
of having a falling out with oneof my friends because everything
went amazing and he hates me andI'm having fun with it because
it's a game. I thought you said he doesn't
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actually hate you, he just can'tbe friends with you.
Also, that sounded very sarcastic.
It was it was something like that.
I don't think he actually hates me.
He says he's open to a friendship, but he's also a
complete idiot. And also he left the gaming
group. Yeah.
People are. He had other friends in that
group and he's like, well, I guess Sean Sean's in there, so I
(02:58):
can't. Oh gosh.
I'm sorry, Sean, I don't get howdo you win this?
I was going to say, is there anything that you well, what's
the? Objective.
What are? What are the things you can do
or that you've thought of doing?The objective is survive.
What needs to survive? Your friendship, your guttural
(03:19):
feelings, your your self esteem.I would like to rekindle the
friendship with this guy. It involves like saying sorry
for something I did because I had a principle and I felt like
I needed to do it in my conscience.
(03:40):
So like. Don't apologize for having you
say it. Hinges on an apology, like
verbatim. Basically.
OK, Yeah, no. And to the audience, like we all
know what Sean's talking about. We're not going to share it.
But like, I know, I know the situation and it's not something
that he needs to apologize for. It's it's a church leadership
(04:00):
thing. And so it's like, it's very
icky. And this is a lot of like, but
anyway, I can't stand down. He's open to the friendship if I
admit that I was wrong. That's not a friendship that
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he's asking for. No it isn't.
That wouldn't be the result either.
He wants it to hinge on dishonesty, so that's not going
to go anywhere. So I have recently been
gamifying my life by enhancing my abilities, by by dwelling on
the fact of like, Oh yeah, you're stupid and that's helping
(04:46):
me. No, it's not.
I think that honestly like this,this, this is like how you feel
in this moment right now. But I feel in large you have
been on a progressional Rd. thatI feel like you've made a lot of
accomplishments and you've had alot of success managing
yourself, which is very important.
(05:07):
Like the way that you've navigated everything with your
ex and the way you've talked about it.
Like I feel like you've been handling things in a more of a
mature way. And also in your friendships
with us and your anger issues, you've been talking through it
and you've been giving very specific responses to the things
I've thrown at you of like, if you're not serious then I don't
(05:32):
care. And if this isn't going to help
me, this is like you worded out very well.
So sorry, you're not going to get anything but words about
formation for me unless I feel like I need to poke some sort of
bear. Oh no, a good person.
That actually helps me feel better.
I I think I understand what you said.
Do you mean like you're not going to mess with my buttons?
(05:54):
I I said I might or might not mess with your buttons, but I
will like if you feel bad about yourself, give you words of
affirmation. He wants to be.
I'm trying to be a good person. That has been one of the games I
have been playing is puzzle. Thank you, Sean for sharing that
puzzle. Tell me before.
(06:15):
We move on. To me, I'm honestly curious like
if, if, if, aside from that whole situation anywhere else in
your life, is there like anything in your life that
you've gamified, applied games to even without realizing it?
I mean, I mean, any times you'venoticed that?
Oh yes, there is a very positivedevelopment.
Please don't be sarcastic again.No, I'm not this this is
(06:36):
genuine. I'm convinced I I I have a
friendship that's been deepeninga mutual like a friend I met
through my ex and I recently went up to Illinois from
Oklahoma to visit her again. We work pretty similarly, our
(06:58):
brains work pretty similarly andwe can communicate very well and
help each other out a lot. And we do a lot of successful
and profitable introspection with each other.
How to be OK basically. And talking stuff out with her
has given me techniques to understand myself.
(07:20):
I'm much more emotionally intelligent with myself now.
I. Emotional intelligence.
Yeah. We talked about that on.
Philosophical. Yeah.
ET, home phone. AT phone home shown the.
ETET phone home home phone from.ETI am a really good now
comparatively. I'm a lot better at detecting
(07:43):
what I'm feeling, when I'm feeling it, why I'm feeling it,
and I'm a lot better at, withoutany shame, coming up with a way
to help. I'm better at asking for help.
I'm better at being honest with others and myself.
What? Was the markers smell?
(08:03):
I don't. Is it the markers?
I was like, there's something sticky.
I remember puzzle mentioning something sticky or other.
Oh, the pay. Look how nicely it shows up.
Oh, it does. I've upgraded my emotional
radar. I've been workshopping it with
myself and my friends. So that's one way I've been
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gamifying. When the beat drops, I get
happy. Listen to music.
We are going to move on. I'm not hosting.
It's your job today, Samuel, andyou never even explained the
whole hosting passing the crown thing at the beginning.
Oh, I forgot we were supposed todo that.
I format my explanation of the podcast how I see fit to format
the I'm the One hosting right now puzzle.
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I think I've made that part clear.
Haven't I made that part clear? No, because it's all about your
stream and what you're doing right now.
Anyway, like I said, I'm workingon being a better person.
They're joking with each other right now I'm translating for
the normal people. The winner of the podcast,
meaning the one who what the main game.
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We're just having a discussion right now.
We're we're gamifying our lives.Sean is still trying to figure
out what that means. All of us are.
We're taking it from different perspectives, and when we win,
that's going to be based on the specific topic I'm going to
choose. But right now they're sharing
topics that have come up in their lives that they're trying
to navigate. And we've been using the
techniques that we've learned from Game of Fight This to make
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games. And we got to pick up the pace a
little bit because Sean is talking about his feelings,
which is important, which we do on philosophical, which I can
edit the heck out of and trim down to AT Anyway, we care about
each other, and Puzzle is going to tell me something he's been
gamifying. So I almost died today.
What? Highway on the way here after on
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the way. No on the way to the apartment
from here. So I'm currently moving from
this house and we're doing a lotof packing up and stuff.
One of the things we did was we got new couch and the new couch
is in three giant boxes and eachof them was 100 lbs.
So this couch is £300. Oh, you got your couch now?
It's in three pieces and they'reall.
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Each of those boxes is 94 lbs and so one trip I brought two of
the boxes and then this trip I brought one of the boxes and my
TVI have a 65 inch flat screen TV.
I wanted to use the package thatthe TV came in, but we've had
that box in the garage and we have an outdoor garage that's
not connected to the house and it's full of dirt and leaves.
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So I changed my mind about usingthat box.
I was like, you know what, I'll just put the TV on top of this
box in the back of the car, OK. And it'll, it'll stay there.
It won't slide around a lot 'cause there's a, we have a wall
mount. You put hooks on the back of the
TV and the, the hooks go into the arm.
And what I did was I pierced those hooks into the cardboard
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box so that the TV wouldn't movevery much.
The fact that the TV was just there, not protected, not
padded, nothing, just kind of there in the back.
I was anxious driving and Jesse was like.
Just. Take deep breaths and we'll be
there in no time. I was like, yeah, but and I was
really tense driving. So we're going on 51, which is
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the worst highway in Tulsa, and it's very bendy and people have
this much merge room. The merges are shorter than the
exits themselves, and they just have to get into the highway or
get plastered into the wall. So we're going down the highway
and I'm really anxious because the TV is balancing the back.
Everyone's spaced out. Everyone's going about 65 and
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we're going on these turns and then a truck in the lane to my
right, but in front of me he hasa giant like chest freezer, fell
out of the back of his truck andlanded in the highway.
And all the cars stopped from 65to nothing and seeing all that
movement and then just everything stopping and there
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was no windows for me to go to. And the person, the person
behind me was on my tail like the entire drive.
And I I they do. Tailgaters are idiots, there's
no good reason for it. I had a bunch of space in front
of me because I'm a defensive driver.
Even though I'm a risky driver, I'm still defensive.
So I was able to slow down a little slower than the person in
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front of me who just went from 65 to a stop.
I had some time to cushion the stop and the person behind me
somehow didn't hit me. We came to a complete stop with
this giant chest freezer in the highway and of course Jesse and
I are screaming. And so the rest of the drive was
just silent and just both of us like driving in silence the rest
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of the way home. But it would.
Have been like the 25th SUV you guys accidentally broke on while
you were moving. Yeah, that was the second one.
But yeah, this has become a pattern.
But I immediately was like, do you think this is a
manifestation of my anxiety? Do you think if I hadn't
worried, this wouldn't have happened?
And Jesse was like, probably. And so I was like, OK, I won't
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worry. And I didn't worry.
And the rest of the drive went OK.
Because you know what? Tent driving is a lot worse than
relaxed driving. I didn't cause the freezer to
fall off the other truck, but look at it.
But it it, it was a good reminder of you never know
what's going to happen and the thing that you're worried about
happening won't happen. Something worse will happen.
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Oh gosh, which is the TV? OK.
Oh, the TV's fine. Yeah.
The thing I was worried about was just taking a turn too sharp
and D like part of the TV, not achest freezer falling off of a
truck into the middle of the highway.
OK, Puzzle. Thank you for keeping that
concise. You know, something I just
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thought about. I used to worry about you a lot.
I used to like, stay up at nightworrying about you.
I used to worry about you throughout the day.
I'm like, I hope he's safe. I hope he doesn't die.
No, I don't care. He's in dangerous places, doing
dangerous things, and now I'm just like, I don't have the
energy for that. I don't worry.
You got through that. You got through that.
I saw you again. You're fine.
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I'm glad you guys were OK. I thought you were going to say
something along the lines of youunderstand how I work and and
how I process emotions after times of stress.
And that you, yeah, you believe in me and you trust me.
You know that I'll work in timesof stress.
Well, not that you don't care anymore.
That's exact that. No, that's exactly what I was
saying. To be accurate.
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That was exactly what I was saying.
I was just using different phraseology, but that was what I
was trying to all right. So I gave them by stuff puzzle
game that that sounded more observational than game
efficacy. The game that I've been playing
is big things only, which is your game about cleaning.
That's been my moving game. We've been moving big stuff 1st
and we're going to move all the little stuff later.
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You guys suck. You.
Guys suck. I ask you for one thing, you
give me a whole bunch of stuff until I am exhausted listening
to it and zoning out of it. And then then you give me the
thing that I asked for. I don't even know how to give
you guys points. I want to take points away from
(15:32):
you because of this. Do it take my points, see if I
can? I was getting ready to give you
a point because you were starting to describe how you
meticulously you spent so much time describing how meticulously
you put the TV. Into the box I.
Thought you were getting to something there.
The the point of that was, was to give you the sudden, oh, it
(15:56):
was something else that because that's what my brain had to go
through. I was so worried about the TV
and then this random freezer falls out in the highway and
everyone has to just stop. I'm working on being a better
person. You guys really do suck.
Sean, you did not get any points.
You just complained. Puzzle, you almost got a point.
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But I'm really mad at you for wasting time.
I'm playing big things. Only.
Yes, one sentence. I've been playing big things
only, and I'm glad about that. You got a point.
I also thought maybe there was something to how you came up
with a solution for putting the television in the box.
I want to know what your mindsetwas around that.
You wanted to know what you wantto know.
(16:38):
I didn't want to know. Now I'm running out of mental
space for it. So we should probably move on to
the main segment. Sean, thank you for sharing your
story, though I'm interested to know how your friendship
continues to go with this other person.
Like you've opened another chapter and that's fun.
And how do you journal? Yeah, well, OK.
The thing is, I don't want to waste any more of your time.
(17:00):
It's my turn now. Oh, well, it's it's technically
our time. I love you, Samuel.
I just don't like you right now.It's always your turn.
It's your podcast, it's your host.
You're hosting this episode. You can change the entire format
if you. Want do you feel like I don't
care about your story because itdidn't fit the game?
Like it's like. Well, it.
Just wasn't the assignment. But I do care.
Like I did want you to share your life with me.
(17:22):
Yeah, that's kind of how it cameacross and I understand that's
not what you meant. So if you're playing this the
the game where you put the baby blocks in the shapes.
Where you put the baby in the washer.
You put the baby blocks in the shapes and then someone hands
you a painting. It's like this is a beautiful
painting but I cannot get any points with this.
It doesn't fit in these little block holes.
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I go to the movie theatre and I see the poster for a movie I
really want to watch. I'm going in there and you have
the little light up signs that show which movies showing when
and where. I have my ticket and I go and I
go in there and it's this reallycool action film, but.
Like it's not the same movie youwant to just.
Keep trying to watch Wicked. You know, it's that's that's how
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it is. Like I care about that, but
it's, I don't know how to it wasn't, it wasn't what I asked
for. Yeah, OK.
And. There's nothing wrong with what
you said, you just don't get a point for it.
That's a puzzle. Your story was really
interesting too. All right.
I have been gamifying every year.
At the start of the year, I re resolve to be more
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introspective. Davinci Resolve Yes, I want to
be introspective across the year.
And it's sort of like that gym. You know, we're going to go to
the gym, I'm going to go to the gym, I'm going to get in shape
this year. What I like to do is journal and
I like almost in journal of all this year.
And then in the middle I was like, I'm feeling emotional
about stuff, I want to write about it.
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And I got kind of stuck on certain chapters.
So I wanted to get calendar thatshows me each day something new
to do and some inspiration. But I also got a planner so that
I can look ahead and like when am I going to release the
philosophical stuff? And I'm trying to intentionally
get myself to get up in the morning and read my planner and
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re evaluate and make sure that I'm on track.
And every night before I go to bed or in bed, I have to journal
like 1 little segment. So that's the game I've been
playing and so far my journalingstreak has been.
Sorry I tried to burp and I if Igrew up a little bit.
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You said that 5 minutes ago. I'm going to get some OW.
Everything hurts. I want, OK, So what I really
want this year is to be guided. And one thing that I've done as
a road map for myself is be morepublic about my goals and plans
as the year goes by. And I just started a monthly
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newsletter that I formatted likea, like a newspaper.
And I'm calling it the Moser Meadows Monthly.
What we're going to do every month is go to the art crawl and
just hand these out, whether I make caricatures or not.
And I even got somebody in Broken Arrow to hand them out at
a comedy show. But it starts out like that.
(20:19):
So it's like that headliner kindof the main things that I want
people to know that's coming up like this year in the coming
months and everything. And then down here, a little bit
about myself. My girlfriend helped me come out
with some of the formatting. And then there's like fake
reviews, very funny fake reviewsto say Simon needs better
reviews. And I want to make these
(20:41):
available like on my website andstuff too, like my monthly
newsletter puzzle, and are goingto figure out how to do that
just like a little more. The headline story continues
talking about my commentary on BU That's going to come out in
January. It's so weird because this
podcast is going to come out like in August.
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This this episode is going to come out like August and then a
bit about our podcast philosophical Sean.
As I continue to make those monthly updates, it'll help me
stay on track and everybody elsein the world will be reminding
me. And just like heart built,
they're going to be TikTok trailblazing.
This yet another. Leave.
(21:23):
It every time I say. Yeah.
So Sean has 40 minutes left. I have an unlimited amount of
time, but I'm sorry that things have been.
We haven't done this in a while.I'm going to apologize to
everyone and God. I'm going to apologize to God.
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Sean, sometimes we sound angry and we're really not genuine,
OK? It's all it's all good fun.
Yeah, Oh yeah. The thing is just like it's
sometimes you are angry though and it's really difficult to
tell, but I'm getting better at it.
I have anger issues too. Oh.
All right, so the part that I can actually crown somebody the
winner of is we're going to play3 rounds and we're going to
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gamify a topic. And I use this spinner.
It's a wheel of subjects to figure out what we're going to
gamify today. So are you guys ready?
All right, gamify this math? No.
Yay, no. Yay.
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OK, so for the first draft, OK, none of us really likes math, do
we? I I math clicks with me.
I love math, but I don't like talking about it or explaining
it. It's like a, it's like a guilty
pleasure, so. The way that I view gamify this,
(22:57):
like we want to take a subject that we do not enjoy.
Math is like an achievement. It's something you can get
better at, but it does have thisfeeling of necessary evil, kind
of like I did that or whatever. And if it feels that way, what
we want to do is make it feel less shame.
Take that out. Take that out.
I converted math into chocolate and since then I've enjoyed math
(23:19):
like the feeling, the I get excitement out of doing math.
How are you going to turn math into something fun?
And you're going to have a game that you can play to apply to
the times that you are faced with.
Let's not say faced with math atwork or math in your real life.
Let's just say you're doing mathproblems as a practice and
(23:41):
you're going to turn it into something fun for this first
round, and I am going to give you 5 minutes to come up with
your first math game. Does that sound good?
Look, that's way too much time. It's too much time.
Sometimes it's not enough time, I'll say.
Well, if there's three rounds. 4minutes go.
That's still too much time if there's three rounds and.
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Do you think you can come up with anything in one minute?
Why do you not let me host? It it breaks the cadence, it
breaks the flow when one person is presenting for a really long
time and then another. Person is in the presentation.
Time is going to be 30 seconds. OK now get going.
OK. I have never been so mad on this
podcast. I don't know if that's true
(24:21):
actually. I have not exploded with anger
now I'm playing simmers, I'm playing the game in my mind.
I'm walking on the Lavik floors and I'm not going to let this
water boil. I'm only going to let it simmer.
I'm going to control. I'm listening to.
(24:45):
What am I listening to? Samuel, you stressed Sean so
hard he's at a different camera angle.
All right, put your pencils down.
Who's ready? I am.
I'm ready. All right, Sean gets a point for
preparedness. All righty, Sean.
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I guess it doesn't matter that Iwas ready before the entire.
I know, but you didn't call it all.
Right, my game is called Multiplication.
All right, so here's the dealio.Each lesson is a level, and each
time you read the book or watch the video, that's like watching
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the mission prepared screen. And each worksheet is a level.
And the problems you encounter are the Imps who come at you and
go. And each imp has a potential for
three points. One, if you eventually get it
correct, 2 if you can get it correct the first time, and
three if you can get it correct the first time and fast.
(25:51):
So very. Nice.
Yes, I I liked it. Did I?
I liked the name and I liked that you were ready with it.
And I think it had levels, so that was pretty cool.
And I like the word imp. So you even had names for your
player characters? Imagine like Mario, where it's
like a two-dimensional thing. You're going through the levels
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and you're killing the Goombas. How do you do that with your
life? Is it like on graph?
Paper this is like a mindset andyou keep track of the points you
set, like how many points you could get for this worksheet,
this level with all of the problems, and then you keep your
points calculated so you see howwell you did at the end.
(26:36):
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promote Elevate when we are a paid podcast and they will be
our, they'll hopefully still be around and they can sponsor us
so that we can advertise them. Will I lose points if I
criticize him? All right, Yeah, go ahead and
(28:03):
criticize him. That wasn't exactly a game, and
it wasn't exactly yours. It's literally a game and it's.
Literally on topic. It's literally on topic.
It's literally what I was thinking about as soon as we
delved into this top subject. It's the kind of thing I want
(28:25):
you to come up with, but I also want you to come up with
something new IT. Doesn't it doesn't have to be
completely. Novel.
And I'm making the rules for this game.
That's why I'm asking you. Oh yes.
You can't specify that. It's a game you're already
playing and which is great. I mean, I want you to keep
playing it. But if you have new alternative
math ideas to make math fun, yes, lean in to elevate.
(28:45):
Absolutely. Do the math practices every day
and it is free. I'll give you a point for that.
I want you guys just for about 5minutes to share a story about a
time that math has been a good experience for you.
I shared mine about the association with chocolate.
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I started just eating chocolate when I was doing math
specifically and no other time. And so I'll get excited because
math was chocolate time, and thechocolate bar can sometimes look
like a calculator who's got a story.
I kind of do because in high school I thought I was going to
become a mechanical engineer forhigh school.
I went to computer engineering instead, but I really wanted to
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complete calculus before graduating and that was a
challenge. That was something I had to
prepare for all my years of highschool.
I had to line things up so that I did pre algebra, algebra,
algebra to geometry, trigonometry before calculus and
I made it a game. And since calculus was like this
abstract thing that I knew nothing about, I was putting on
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this really high pedestal of like this will be the epitome of
math. This will be my final experience
of math. This will and it'll be my senior
year. It'll be amazing.
And I did all these math leaningleading up to it.
So in senior year, I could do calculus and it just so happened
that we had an extracurricular calculus class on our campus
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that different levels of high school could do together.
And it was like this elite club of calculus people who met at a
certain time every week. And we were, it wasn't like the
seniors or the juniors, it was people mixed in and it was this
calculus club. And I aced the class and it was
everything I hoped it would be. That's nice, I like that.
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I wasn't everything I hoped I would because I didn't become a
mechanical engineer. I became a computer engineer.
Anyway, good experience, it was fun and I did well and it was a
good class. Sean The.
Coolest thing that ever happenedto me in math was that one time
I did a worksheet 2 years ago and I actually enjoyed it.
Was it pre algebra? Was it like getting into algebra
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for the first time and like understanding it for the first
time? I think so.
Math has always been the thing at the start of my school day
that is like the thing I want toget done.
And so I think the satisfaction was actually that I had got it
done at the time I wanted to andI felt like I was on track to
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finish what I needed to finish that day.
So it was more in the reward than the thing itself.
Unfortunately now the cool thingthat happened to me once is
barely involves math, but it waswhen when we realized that there
were 8 quarts of oil in our 5 quart tank.
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How? A lot of buildup or something?
Because your car doesn't produceoil?
How do you accidentally put too much oil in?
We thought it was empty, so we put more in it.
Oh no. This is when it was like leaking
horribly and we I did not know that it could completely stop
(31:58):
dripping oil when it still had oil in it.
Finally using them relevantly puzzle, Yeah, that wasn't very
smooth it. Was better than the last several
times. So like dad and I one day
because we've had horrible oil leaks and we were on our way to
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the shop or whatever to get. I'm transitioning into a into a
atmosphere like. Here's the story.
We were going to this shop. I hadn't checked the oil for
like, well, I had checked it. I didn't see anything on the
stick and it was not dripping. We assumed that it was empty.
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Apparently there's oil underneath where you usually see
it. Here's the connection with Math.
OK, where? Where's the connection?
The connection is that it's a 5 quart tank and we did our
addition wrong and put 8 quarts in there.
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So we did our math problem wrongbut it led to a disaster and but
the fun part was taking the oil out of the car.
But that has nothing to do with math, so.
That sounds a lot like a lot of fun.
I really, I really enjoyed it. I am, I am a manly man.
I like cars. So Samuel, are you trying to
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like fill time with this? Are you like trying to prepare
something or did you have we're?Going somewhere around the pop
quiz for later and I'm enjoying your all's stories.
All right, you guys ready for Round 2?
We're going to do something a little different for round two.
OK, Are you ready? You were ready.
I want you guys to come up with a very fun, interactive, kid
(34:05):
friendly, adult friendly, ADHD friendly math textbook all
about. Oh, he made dice musical.
Poop. I'm going to give you 3 minutes
to prepare it. OK?
Prepare it together. What the Frick?
(34:26):
I want you to come up with your own books.
Or do you want to work together?I want to work together.
All right, do this one collaboratively.
All right, Sean. What's it called?
Draw IO or something like that we can draw together.
What, what what? What if you make your own
equations and you have terms on dice that you roll to create the
problem that you solve? OK, OK, OK, let's keep going.
(34:49):
Unfortunately, we need to put music and poop in here out of
everyone poop. The The thing is, you got poop
in your brain and doing the mathproblems that you create helps
get the poop out of your brain. That's what's going on.
(35:10):
OK. And there's.
A poop in your brain. Got it.
And you, you need to, you need to sing to the.
I don't know what to do man. And and wait, no, no, you said
there were there. You said there were die that we
roll. Yeah, there are die that we roll
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with terms with, with terms and things that you you do like with
like divide signs and multiplication signs and like
fractions and. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
So so so. This is not a textbook.
This is a game. But this is like, this is like
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numbers. No, no.
No, no. But the thing with the textbook
this is. Symbols.
The thing with the textbook is yes, yes, yes.
And then you roll them together.Yes, yes.
And the thing with the textbook is that you have a place to
write out the whole equation. So you you have a place to write
the equation, then you have a place to solve it.
(36:17):
You you have the workspace underneath the.
And if you buy the algebra upgrade.
Yes, you buy the and. If you buy the calculus upgrade.
Yeah. I don't remember any other
calculus symbols. And the whole objective that's
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going on with all of this is to get the poop out of your brain.
That's the whole objective of the of the entire textbook.
Because the poop is the not smart stuff.
OK. You're learning the smart
getting the poop out and you you're saying to the dice to
make them work like like religious.
(37:01):
It's it's like Pagan religion, right.
So you like, you like sing to them and then you throw them.
And thank you for your illustrations, Michael this.
Is the textbook where you input the input from the dice and this
is where you put. The answer and and and Michael,
the lessons tell you how to use one of the sides of the dice.
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Lessons. OK, dice I that that.
That's good guys. Great job.
This great job. And it's called Pagan poop
religion with. Mass time.
Time is up. No, no more input.
OK, this makes so much sense I'm.
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Going to save it as. You know what?
I would have. Done.
You know what I would have done with that prompt?
You know what I would have done with that prompt?
I I really like your idea, Shawn.
I think we actually do need to make this textbook now, like
each thing that we've gamified, we have to make a game, a
shareable game out of each of these things, starting with the
most recent. So we have to make a textbook
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following a character named Brain Poop, and he goes on a
journey to become something else, to escape the brain, to
escape the brain, to escape the brain.
But inside the book, I would have it so that the kids or
adults who are creative get to make their own dices with these,
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whatever it is, But instead of singing to the dice, which I
think it's very weird, John, I don't even know why you shared
it. If it is not good, why you spoke
that into the universe. Now there's a pair.
Now there's an alternative universe where people are
dealing with this. Anyway, end of each.
Chapter Well, The thing is. Hey, hey, hey.
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You wanted to put music in the game, and so I gave it to you.
Yeah, yeah. I probably would have put a song
at the end of each lesson based on the lesson.
Kind of like, kind of like Tolkien randomly has songs in
his, yeah. Books.
But it wouldn't be so random because it's expected.
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It's what the book's about, The singing poop math book.
You guys ready for this? Time for a pop quiz?
We are going to find out. And the people get to vote too.
They're going to pause the podcast after I ask the question
and put in their vote. Oh, I forgot to mention when we
(39:44):
were sharing our stories. There is actually an e-mail.
You all can share your stories. You the audience can share your
stories to gamifythispodcast@gmail.com.
We want to hear your story abouthow math became an exciting
experience for you. This is an interactive podcast,
just like our math singing Wait.Pagan poop?
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No, that's that's. Called I, I don't, I don't, I
don't want to bring up paganism because that's a real thing.
A textbook is a real thing. If you if you don't want
religion, you can just say that.You don't say don't do it
because it's already a real thing, because a textbook is a
real. Thing I don't, I meant don't
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disreligion like we can't do that.
Don't disreligion. Religion is important to people.
It shouldn't be something that we bring into our games unless
it's the main focus of the game.Do you know how ADHD this
podcast is? I thought we were getting ready
to a pop quiz and like I was saying, there's an interactive
(40:46):
podcast. So you have the opportunity
right now to do an interaction with us.
I'm going to share 4 things thatthis could be and you're going
to answer which one you think itactually is.
Are you guys ready? Who invented the first handheld
calculator? Was it a Blaise Pascal in 1624B,
(41:08):
Texas Instruments in 1970, C Bell Punch Co in 1961, or D the
Sumerians between 2 seven, 2700 and 2300 BC?
Are you ready to hear those again?
It was either Blaise Pascal in 1624, Texas Instruments in 1970,
(41:33):
Bell Punch Co in 1961, or the Sumerian somewhere between 2700
and 2300 BC. The first handheld calculator.
I have an answer. Hold on, the audience needs a
chance to pause the podcast puzzle you were ready with your
answer for. Are we?
Are we going to do the like in the Discord chat?
(41:55):
If you're interested in participating, put your letter
in the chat and no. No, no, no, no, no.
There's going to be a pull on the Spotify right?
Puzzle 1-2. You ready, Sean?
Three BD. OK.
Why? B.
Because I know the name Texas Instruments and they made the
scientific. Calculator that I have all
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right, Sean. Because oh, look, there's this
picture of somebody ancient people do a lot of stuff that we
don't expect that are like really cool and, and are also
like more modern than they wouldexpect ancient, ancient
technology, archaeology discoveries.
So that I I expect you to be surprised by them now.
(42:39):
Me too, me too. And here's the thing the
Sumerians are attributed to. We don't know for certain.
Having invented the Abacus, which is handheld sometime
between 2700 and 2300 BC. We're not sure.
We just see pictures of them using it.
Because we don't. Actually know who invented the
Abacus or when, but it is a handheld calculation device.
(43:03):
But it's not the handheld calculator and it's not called a
calculator. Blaise Pascal.
However, Blaise Pascal invented the mechanical calculator in
1624, but it was not a handheld calculator device either.
Bell Punch Company in 1961 predates the Texas Instruments
(43:25):
of 1970, and I think that was something like a computer that
you use. However, the first handheld
calculator was invented by TexasInstruments in 1970, according
to my research. I am so proud of this one.
Puzzle gets a point. Wait, only one point.
The The Pop quiz was only worth one point this time.
(43:46):
How much is it usually worth like?
10. Really.
This time I'd like it to be, butyou can do whatever you want.
You don't know who's in the lead.
Moving on, we are ready for Round 3.
This is the final. The final round point values are
tripled this time. It's like Jack Box.
(44:08):
It is. It is.
I like Jack Box games. This final round, you've got to
overcome the necessary evil. Math is not going to be boring,
and you're going to convince me that it is not.
And you're going to do that by showing me where you apply math
in an exciting, fun, innovative way without using any
preconceived, I mean any, you know, already existing apps.
(44:32):
It doesn't have to be based on acalculator or a book that you
know about or something. It's going to be entirely puzzle
your invention that makes math unnecessary enjoyment in your
work life. Are you ready to prepare your
idea? I will give you.
I'm cure. I don't, I don't know exactly
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what you mean. Are you talking about a mental
construct that helps you? So think about doing round one
correctly where you're going into your morning and you're
finding a fun way to learn math,but this time you're finding a
fun way to do math in your work life, like problems come up or
whatever, and you're going to beexcited about it, OK?
(45:20):
Work life. Yep, necessity is the mother of
invention, and you are going to invent necessity.
The mother invention. Come on, Puzzle's already coming
up with this idea I gave you. This time.
You might be ahead, You might bebehind Sean.
Just do your best. OK.
(45:42):
And that is time. Whatever idea you have, I want
to hear it. If you both agree that you need
more time, I can give you both more time.
But if one of you is ready, timeis up, and it's OK if you didn't
have a very good idea, we'll just run with yours and run with
it boldly. All right.
Tonight. Puzzle Mine is kind of a cop out
(46:02):
because my job, my main field ofwork, my main field of study for
the past 20 months was being a full time student for a computer
programming school. Computer programming is very
much rooted around math, so it'simportant to know math and you
need to apply it because a computer at its essence is
(46:23):
mathematical. So optimizing algorithms, you
need to have a mathematical mindin order to do that.
Creating functions that calculate things the most
optimal way is mathematic in a sense.
And so, yeah. Boring.
(46:50):
This round was really hard all. Right, son, let's hear your
idea, starting pencil. OK, wait, I can't lose this
episode. I'm the nerd.
I can't lose math. Nerds are meant to win math.
(47:12):
If there's one thing a. Nerd is supposed to do is to win
math. If there's any winning in math,
it's a nerd. Don't take your points away by
complaining. The gamer has a natural affinity
for making games. Which actually is not true,
because I'm the one who has the most trouble with gamify this
for some reason. You're the one who needs.
(47:33):
It the most Yeah, OK, here's but.
Here's the thing. Puzzle.
You were ready first. So you know you at least have
three points, right? Because point values are
tripled, I. Forgot about that.
Yeah. OK, Sean.
Here's my pitch. When you are learning math in
(47:54):
your schooling system with your ADHD friendly textbook and dice
and stuff, what you are doing isequipping yourself with the
power tools and practicing with them and getting to know them so
that when something happens in real life, you actually know how
to use them. For instance, calculating your
taxes or figuring out where yourmoney is going or doing change
(48:16):
like nobody uses cash anymore. Unfortunately, you need to know
how to do it. And that is when you whip out
your audition tools and drill that sucker into somebody's
brain. You know how to do it.
(48:37):
So, and each time a math problemcomes up in your real life, this
is when the little gremlin demonshows up and goes.
Oh, from your first. Game from my first game.
If you treat your life as a big level, every time a gremlin
shows up, it's an opportunity toearn points by doing it right
(49:00):
and by doing it quickly or just by, you know, doing the thing
you need to do. It's a challenge.
It's meant to be a challenge. It's not impossible because
you're meant to win. And that's the mindset that
needs to go with all of these real life math problems, using
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your tools and your knowledge todefeat the gremlins in front of
you. Yes, you get it.
You get it, Sean. I'm very happy for you.
It took me a while. I know, but you get it.
All right, let me count up your points.
You guys talk to each other about how you feel.
Well, you actually did somethingthere instead of the nothing
that I did. I didn't know what to do and I
(49:43):
couldn't think. The only reason I didn't do
nothing is because I threw you under the bus and bought myself
more time. Michael, how do you feel knowing
I used? You used.
I'm sorry, but you said you wereproud of me.
I'm proud of you for using me. I'm proud of you for being bold
and brave enough to do such a thing, such a horrible thing to
a person like me, an innocent, innocent person like me.
(50:06):
Yeah. You know, guys, you both did a
really good job. I mean, Sean didn't get any
points that first round. I mean, it wasn't really a
round, but while we were talkingabout our gamification like he
didn't really know how to turn his life into a game Puzzle did,
but he saved that for the after credits scene for some reason.
Well, Michael, sorry, Samuel, you, you missed an entire
(50:28):
section where Michael said, did you actually gamify anything?
And I'm like, Oh yeah, I've beenworking on my emotional radar.
Yes, but that was for me and youdidn't share it with me.
I want it to like, I want you toknow that.
I want you to know it so well that it's what you're talking
about. When we get on the podcast,
that's what we're trying to get to and it's a challenge for you,
(50:49):
which means we are fighting those impetuses.
Empathy. What do you call them?
Imps. Imps.
I like that you had a name for it.
It was. Implied.
Implied. Implied.
But yeah, you got three points. A second round puzzle, barely
got one when you guys shared your stories, Puzzle story was a
(51:13):
lot more interesting to me than she's because I just saw that he
saw value in math and what it was going to do with his life.
And Sean was like, it was kind of fun, so that was cool.
Oh, those stories. I thought you were saying his
story about the ice fridge was more interesting than my story
about a falling out. I feel like right in the middle,
we had the most fun with the game.
(51:33):
When I rolled the dice and we were coming up with a textbook.
It was great. The illustration puzzle was
great. That earned you some points,
Sean. You kept having ideas, and even
though I didn't like your ideas,you kept having them and you
were matching them up to make sure you were talking about the
poop and the application part, which was great, getting the
poop out of your brain. And you mentioned the singing,
(51:57):
even though I didn't like what you did with it.
The history lesson was fun, a puzzle, a great job getting it.
Sean, thank you for participating.
And ultimately, in the final round, I did triple points and
both of you tied the last round.So it was a very, very close
game. I mean, Puzzle got 15 points and
Sean got 13. Oh, I the nerd.
(52:18):
One math next episode, Puzzle will be our host.
He's going to come up with a funtopic that we're going to have
to follow and come up with a game based on.
You can find Puzzle on Puzzle MTM on Twitch and YouTube and
all kinds of other fun places. He birthed this idea Gamify.
This is his baby. We are his children.
(52:40):
We are all God's children, and Iam God.
You can find Sean on 10 tiny potato S on YouTube and on
twitch and pretty much every streaming service that he's on,
and I am Moser Meadows records on YouTube and TikTok, which
won't be around when this comes out.
(53:02):
I'm Samo Claus Tuner with the number 2 on Instagram, and as we
always say at the end of these episodes, game over.
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