July 24, 2025 • 41 mins
Sean fought the mic. Samuel fought the plushies. Puzzle fought for control… and lost.
In Episode 25 of Gamify This, Sean hosts Gamify Memory (Part One)—marking the podcast’s FIRST EVER in-person recording with all three hosts crammed into one room!The energy is electric (and occasionally erratic): Samuel hurls stuffed animals (with suspiciously violent intent), Puzzle battles audio gremlins and rogue mic feedback, and Sean referees the madness while pitching memory hacks to the contestants. Who will win?
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Video Edited by: https://www.youtube.com/@PuzzleEmptyM
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(00:00):
Welcome to Gamify This featuringthe artist Samuel the gamer Sean
the Nerd puzzle. Join them as they transform the
ordinary into extraordinary, infusing your life with purpose,
(00:22):
fun, and the power of gamification on Gamify this.
Welcome back to game of 5 E and used to camera being up there.
We are in person this time. We have him.
Him. Him.
Him. Sorry we.
Have we have? We have angles switch to me we
have. Angles switching to puzzle.
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Hi hi. Switching to Samuel.
Hi. Switching to couch Hi, this is
the couch view. Hi and back to me.
Wow, you could be Captain Kirk now.
I can be captain. Screen on.
Kevin Kirk All right, welcome back to gamify Dish, the podcast
(01:05):
game show, free training that wait, we already did this.
I'm excited so. We have very limited time, so
this might be an episode, this might just be a practice.
This is our first time doing it in person.
Here's the thing. All right.
Oh, no. Hey, I forgot about something.
Oh, hey, cool. Me too.
They are making out violently and they died.
(01:27):
Have you ever forgot something? Well freak you, you guys, I want
you in 30 seconds to remember the most obscure thing in your
life. Most obscure like experience or
fact or whatever. And whichever one has the most
obscure thing, they get points. Obscure or random or weird or
(01:49):
what? Just like the thing you're least
likely to remember. Well, OK, but if it's crazy
enough I'll remember it. I'll think of something boring.
All right, boring in. Specific in the in the rain
boots that we used to have when I lived on the farm, I remember
that the inside of them was kindof like grey cloth that was kind
of plasticky and I couldn't figure out what kind of material
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it was made. Of the what the rain bolts.
The rain boots that we used to wear when we lived at the farm
that we would climb trees in. Oh yeah, yeah, the big.
Black and bulky with red thing at the end, but in the cartoons
I make it I had blue ones with the green thing at the end.
Michael. I was going to say 4321
galvanized nails. Oh wait, you said that before.
(02:36):
Have have I? Am I remembering that?
I feel like you said that. To me, Dang it, I did 4321.
I did 4321. Galvanized.
I need to make it a more obscure#6972.
I'm giving this one to Samuel. I think he got this one.
Hey, you didn't make a very good.
Like, hey leadership, he made a great leader.
(02:57):
Leadership. More like leader.
Man, we're not allowed to swear.We're not allowed.
To switch scenes to do that. So that was the first light
leading round that is now intro and small talk.
Oh, you know what's cool? When Sam and I look at you,
we're basically looking at our cameras.
That's true. Are you ready to Game of Five
(03:19):
memory? And whatever Sean talks to us,
he faces away from the camera. Yeah, it's OK.
It's OK. It didn't work a little bit
well. Get a good view of your hair and
your ear, your hair that we wantyou to change so that we can
actually get married to you. You know, that's, that's a good
point. I forgot about that.
OK, So you guys have two minutes, OK, to gamify
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remembering the small stuff likeappointments, numbers, things
that are like very menial and easy to forget, but they're
important. OK, very good.
Can iPhone a friend? Sure.
There's got to be a friend in this room.
Hello. Hello.
Oh. I was joking.
It's oh, that was going. To be great.
(04:02):
Jeopardy is going to love that. Hi, this is Daniel from Back at
Home. I'm gonna I'm gonna phone my
friend Mr. TG Pete Chad G Chad GPete Chad GP You know you're
taking space that other people can use for actually planning
this, right? You're kind of stealing from
(04:22):
other people right now. The scene changes are
unnecessary right now, OK. Ding.
Samuel, Go. All right, so remember names,
remember places, and remember things, especially the ones that
don't seem important. You'll find yourself starting to
integrate these into your daily life so that things that you
could easily forget, people willsuddenly think, wow, you have a
(04:46):
photographic memory of the most unnecessary things.
I've gotten in the habit when I go to bars of, you know,
scouting out, noticing how many people are there and making sure
I draw each of them before they leave.
So how am I going to remember faces?
Well, it's easy to bark because I'm already drawing those
people. So I know their faces and a
little bit about them. But what if I'm at work and I'm
not actually drawing people because I don't have a pencil
(05:08):
nearby? Learn something about the people
and then you get their name and you try to associate that with
the person. For instance, this guy's name is
Mike. Well, I met like 5 mics this
week, but he was telling me about this time he was on the
phone and it was a funny story about the phone.
I'm like Mike the phone, something like that.
And suddenly the next time he comes into my place of work,
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he's not just a silhouette walking in there.
He has a face and a name badge above his head.
Now let's talk about place. Photosensitive memory.
Wait, what? I use something called the major
system, but not everybody's familiar with this.
There's a consonant letter associated with each number of
the alphabet. What are numbers called anyway?
Like the number one is AT or TH and so I will create words out
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of addresses. For instance, you pass house 175
and then the next one's house 178.
I don't know how that works, butinstead I'm thinking about house
tail kiss. Tail kiss no.
What house tail case? Take.
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Me out to the ball game think. About what you can do with the
name of the street, 21 Elm St. they think, well, my friend
Jerry lives on Elm Street, but when I think of Elm, I think of
a tree, and I think about my friend Jerry living in a tree
house. Then Elm Street, suddenly more
important, you can do that with each house you pass.
And then those. Instead of all looking identical
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with just numbers on them, each house will look unique with a
story and a fun situation attached to it.
But things? I've got a paper clip, a button,
and a push pin on a napkin on the table in the kitchen.
I have to imagine to remember those things were on the table
in the kitchen. Paper clips are made.
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Hot food. To clip.
Papers together and push pins are made to put notes onto
things, and buttons are what youuse to make eyes on dolls that
are creepy looking. And scarecrows and napkins are
good to tuck into your shirt as a little tie.
And so that is what I'm imagining.
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I'm imagining a doll making notes and tucking A napkin as a
tie into their shirt. And then I can remember what
items were on the table in the kitchen wasn't as strong.
You get originality points. Yay.
You also get one point for diversity.
I didn't just say Sean is here'swhat you do.
(07:44):
You need to play Elevate. Elevate has a lot of random
things that you need to remember.
Sean would say when I look at each other, we're looking at
each other on the on the thing. Oh, that's true.
That's same, same. A look at me.
That's really cool. I can I can reach it.
That's so cool. Is it going to be organized in
that way it. Is it is right now look, can
you? See.
Well, it is right now, but is that the?
(08:05):
Oh, that's the final template. Yeah, Sean's switching between
the scenes. Oh, you're going to do that to
begin with. OK, so I gave you some points.
I didn't give you some points because I also didn't exactly
know what you were talking. About I wish my prologue was
shorter. Well, I didn't know what the I
didn't know. I didn't understand the game
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admitted about as much sense as the game did.
That's true. So you were talking about
techniques for remembering things, right?
That's true. OK.
So that's what I did. You know what you're confusing
about that. You're right, I'm just not going
to give you points. For it.
So you don't think that you would remember things that way?
No, I do. Then what did I do that was
wrong? I don't know, Michael, it's your
(08:47):
turn. All right, so this game is
called This game. This game is called memory
turnip because it's a weird random name.
The main part of this game is you have a six sided die.
It could be a three sided die, but those don't really exist.
If you have a six sided die, if you roll A1 or A2, you have to
explain. Let me backtrack.
(09:09):
You're going to have to do this exercise once a day and you're
going to write down your journal.
Some things you have trouble remembering, and then every day
you're going to draw three of those random things you have
trouble remembering and you're going to roll A6 sided die.
If you roll one or two, you haveto explain it in depth out loud.
If you roll the three or a four,you have to write it down a
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bunch of times from memory. And if you roll A5 or six, you
have to make a connection relating it to something else
that you have trouble remembering.
And if you succeed, you get XP. If you lose, you lose XPI didn't
figure out an XP system. But at the end of the week,
you're gonna try to list down asmany of those things as you can
remember and compare it to the full list and see if you
remembered them all. If you're if you're like
learning Mongolian as a languageand you have to remember the
(09:53):
capital of Mongolia and you rollA6.
From Mongolia. And you roll A6, that's the make
a connection thing. So you have to connect the
capital of Mongolia to a color that it makes me think of.
You have to write that color in Mongolian because you're
learning the language of Mongolia.
So that helps you remember not only the geography of Mongolia,
but also the color, the. Name of the color in that
language. Or if you're learning math, if
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you're learning calculus and you're like, what is a
derivative? And you have to do the the
definition of a derivative and you roll A3 or A4, that's that's
writing down for memory. So you have to write down the
definition of a derivative the best you can, and writing it
down the first time will help you remember.
Oh, that doesn't seem quite right.
You're right, second time, right, third time, etcetera.
And then once you feel comfortable, you're compared to
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the way it is. But the goal of the game is you
have this 3 sided die or six sided die, one or two is
explaining it out loud, A3 or A4is writing it down, and a 5 or 6
is making a connection to another thing you have trouble
remembering. OK.
And that's memory turn up. So I think instead of.
I'm so dark in this angle. I know, right?
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I think instead of a die, you should be rolling a turnip.
And if it's excited, it's easy to make one three sided because
all you got to do is have like the cube.
The cube angle shows three options and then you turn it
around and it has the same threeoptions.
You know, so you can do a three sided die.
Also. I zoned out for most of that.
(11:20):
But when we were talking about the Mongolia thing, it made a
lot of sense to me because when I was learning sign language, I
was encouraged to practice the words that I was doing in sign
language in Spanish because thenthe link because I'm learning
Spanish as well. Yeah, I work a little harder
thinking about that. But it starts to come naturally
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as you learn another language and you speak the first one.
And when you were talking about derivatives there, I was
thinking earlier about, you know, they're not so much harder
to explain as they're like the opposite of etymology.
It's going the other direction. It's what did we get from this
word? What, what, what do we have in
our language that's similar to this word?
And earlier today I was contemplating derivatives
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because I thought of a word thatwas similar to a word we have in
Spanish. Yeah.
Say hello to our other Co producers.
The new cast because a previous cast died exactly.
Oh thank God, that sucked. So it's like, oh, no, hello.
Who are you? I don't know.
Who am I? I don't know.
(12:31):
Identity crisis, OK. Oh no.
Oh no, Huggy is hanging on one of the camera cords.
So this one very quickly is how do you remember?
The present wait. How do you remember to be
present when all of the crack going on in the world is making
you disassociate? How do you remember where you
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are? So it's still about memory.
It's just about taking control of the memory, being able to be
where you. Are when you walk into the
kitchen and you don't remember why you're there.
Like if you're trying to remember what did I come in here
to get a snack? Did I come in here, blah, blah,
blah. Is this creating a game for
moments like that that you can rely on to remember?
(13:14):
Yes, OK. Yeah, that's it.
Can you stop? Speaking French.
So like, you know how when you walk into the kitchen, you're
like, did I come in here to washa dish or get a snack or get a
drink? Why am I in here?
We're making a game to play whenthat happens, when you get into
the kitchen and you're like, where will I remember why I'm
here? I thought it was more like how
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do I be here? Well, the topic is memory.
Yeah. But I think here Sean is like
pivoting a little bit. Well, it's like it's a little
bit adjacent. Yeah, this is like a bonus
round, but adjacent, like how I interrupt the how I interrupt
philosophical with the game, thehistory of a game.
(13:58):
It's basically like practicing practicing mindfulness almost
because we we often forget to bewhere we are, so we have to
remember to refocus. My thought though, I mean, I'm
not trying to argue with you as a host and you can, you can
shoot this down any moment, but my thought is that presence and
mindfulness is a huge broad topic in and of itself.
(14:21):
Wouldn't it be good? And this is you're the host.
You could decide, but wouldn't it be good to like focus on the
memory part of it? Like how to be mindful with your
memory rather than how to be mindful in the present?
Ding. Hang on you guys switch.
Yes. Oh, right.
So I have my game ready. Gosh Dang.
OK. It's all over.
Samuel has started. Negotiations are gone.
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Please send help. The nukes are coming.
The ice cream is coming. He's here.
What does that even mean? Sean was had something in mind
(15:08):
the. End of a train of thought that
wasn't my gosh, he's here with us.
What's happening? They're here.
Like we were expecting them. Samuel, continue your game.
Michael. I don't know what you're going
to do. Good luck.
My game is called Stop and Wonder.
(15:29):
The first level is called Wonderful now, and it is a game
where pretty much it's the opposite of what you're usually
doing when you're playing a video game.
Usually when you're playing a video game, you're racing, going
really fast or you're in a bottle and you're fighting for
conflict, you know, there's there's something that you're
trying to imply you're. In a bomb or whatever.
Fighting in the battle you're fighting, there's a conflict,
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But Samuel's sitting in the backwatching the video game and he's
thinking, whoa, the designer made an amazing scene here.
I wish I was just like looking at this scene and enjoying this
art. And then I look at the costumes
on these characters and I'm like, wow, the costume designer
did an amazing job on these characters, designed costumes.
I wish that we had time to pay attention.
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You died. You died.
You died. Ooh, the characters are kind of
cool. I wish they didn't die.
So we'll find ourselves in a situation where I'm like running
through my morning, taking care of my dog.
I'm not even counting how many times he poops and trying to get
myself extra points through that.
I'm just thinking about how lateI am for work.
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I get to work and I'm thinking about how to make more money.
I'm not thinking about, wow, theride to work was so amazing.
The sky was this color Blue Hillspectrum, a cloud.
But I get points when I do notice those things.
I get points for every time I notice colors.
The more colors I notice, the more color points I get.
Especially if it's about racism.If my ears are paying attention
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to sounds like the soundtrack, that or the sound.
You know how they put sound effects in the background of a
game? I get hearing points and if I
notice like the costume design, I get costume points.
So I get points for wearing clothes when I go to work as
well. The second level, the second
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level of stop and wonder cuz it's really a 2 trick pony,
whatever you call it, two side coin, A2 level game.
That's what I was trying to say is, is it hard to be here to
begin with? So you have to actually stop in
the middle of what you're doing and make it take a little
longer. The reward is, you know what, if
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you're running late, you're running late.
I know that doesn't always win in our world, but make it as it
is. You had to go slow to begin
with. You're a slow person.
That is the glory of the game that you play.
And so if you stop there and wonder what it would be like in
the future, looking back at thismoment, what would you remember?
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And as you keep thinking about it and keep making it a good
memory, say, wow, I really like the morning.
I really like walking my dog. I really like driving to work.
I really like being at work, having a job, sipping coffee and
seeing the people around me. The more things you notice, the
more points you get. And if you notice enough things
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at the end of the game, you get bonus points as well.
So that's how you play Stop and wonder.
Nice. OK, Michael.
Puzzle. Do you have anything?
Dude, Samuel was thinking about it while we were talking, but I
was thinking about talking whilewe were talking.
So rebel the the game. So the game, the game. -2 XP.
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Long one, just one. I just lost the game.
Man, there's a cow. I just lost the game.
Lake. Same.
You'll say it. Cow drooling.
I say I just lost the game, cow.Drooling Shawn just lost the
game, no? OK, so memory turnip that
applies to this perfectly. You have your memory turnip in
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your pocket at all times. Unless it rotted.
That whole time I was scrolling Instagram, I was not making my
game. But here's the thing, you have
your memory turnip in your pocket.
You're starting to panic. Pull it out and roll it on the
nearest flat service, whether that be the floor or countertop
your best friend's bald head. And if it is a one or two,
explain your situation out loud.If it's a three or a four, write
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it down as best as you can, as many times as you can until you
feel comfortable, or five, or six.
Make a connection to what's happening right now to something
that's happened before, and thatis how you can apply memory
turnip to a current situation. That was good.
Short, sweet and sweat. It's just rehashing my idea that
I already thought of so I didn'thave to use my brain.
It's OK, I gave you points, but I didn't give you originality
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points. Reference it is 935 right now.
OK. Do you feel like we've only
scratched the surface of what you want to do here?
Do you feel like we're getting into the middle of what you want
to do here? If we're getting in the middle
of what you want to do here, we could do one more round and make
it a 2 parter again. I think we should make it a 2
parter. I just don't like feeling rushed
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with this. Because I Me neither.
I like enjoying the game. I feel like we're not getting
good we're. Losing.
We're losing. Stop and wonder.
Your microphone is red and this table is black.
And I do need to go back to therapy.
Yeah. OK.
Last thing we're going to do today is is.
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There going to be another pop quiz in Part 2.
Yeah, awesome. Yeah, OK.
What is not a type of memory? Oh, since we don't have a time
log, we can actually like, raisehands.
What is a type of memory? Yeah, what is not a type of
memory like? Oh, you're going to give a full?
(21:11):
Sorry. What is not a legitimate type of
memory? I made one of these answers up.
The rest of them are like, are real.
Yeah. So it's a working memory, B
sensory memory, C social memory,and D episodic memory.
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That's Michael. I am thinking that you made-up
B. And I am thinking that you
made-up a working memory. That's a good thing.
We got points because everybody's war, no.
No, it's episodic memories. It's.
Episodic memories. Because the kind of thing Sean
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would say, but not the kind of thing that would really exist.
Actually, it's social memory we.Legally suck at this.
I love it that when we look at each other, it's I'm sorry I
can't get over. It it's real so from what I
understand the working memory. It's like the RAM.
It's what's currently being processed, yeah.
Working memory is the sensory memory is when you can remember
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what something felt like ram like you can reap like a
nostalgic. Smell, and you can actually
smell it in your brain, but you're not actually smelling.
It yes, it's like you can actually feel the feeling again.
You know what licking Velvet feels like right now?
Yeah, or like, you know. If you've homemade Mac and
cheese that your mom made you. Exactly.
You can remember taste, you can remember smells, you can
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remember slapping your friend and exactly how much pain he
had. The funny thing is some people
don't have bees. This ability.
I know there's a word for all ofthem, but a Fantasia is the
inability to have images in yourbrain.
You can see what you see, you can think of concepts, but you
can't see images. I think there's also.
Concepts. I remember Ratatouille where
he's eating the cheese and the strawberries and it's a black
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background and they're swirling stuff.
Yeah, but they don't see that either.
That's how they best describe it.
It's just senses moving around but not physical.
Like I can see an apple floatinghere when I say apple.
Man, that would be so much. But they.
Feel, taste and smell the apple,but they can't see.
It you realize how much cash is in here because of how many
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images I'm forming every day, all the time for everything,
yeah. But anyway, I just, I just said
that because you said these are universal experiences and I
thought it'd be fun to mention that some people actually can't
experience these. I'm glad we understand A now.
There's also the type of thing where you have a visual memory
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of a smell or a voice. I know a friend who described my
voice as like, sharp and wobbly and like what?
That's a little. Bit more like synesthesia, which
seems to be the opposite. Yeah, well, but you see in
relativity, that looked like synesthesia to me.
The way she described it is she had like an overlay of the
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waveforms and she was describingthese things that way.
She can also, I think she can taste sites.
I don't know, she's, she's got some stuff there.
I don't remember what episodic memory is.
I'm going to look it up. You only explained the first one
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so far. That was a.
Now you're going all the way to.DI explained B Sensory memory.
You know how when you can re feel something?
Oh, I thought that that was. I thought that was working
memory. No working memory is like I just
ate a sandwich and I'm still thinking about it or I.
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That was the RAM 1. Yeah, it's like the stuff.
That I was too busy being sheepish to remember.
It's like the stuff that just happened and whether it's
important or not doesn't really matter because it was so.
It's in the control room of Inside Out.
It can still be touched by the different emotions and stuff.
It's still there. It hasn't been pushed back into
the yeah, library. It.
Have you seen Inside Out? It's like how if you he.
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Hasn't seen any Pixar film. So.
You do not listen. So you know how you can remember
what it was like getting here tonight?
Yeah, I can if I choose to. Yeah, that's working memory.
In a month or so, you might not.Yeah, I've thought of that
before. I'm like, which things are not
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going to stick? That's interesting.
Yeah, because I remember random events like, Oh yeah, we made
this fruit salad and the thing that linked it was I closed the
door so the dogs would stay in there.
And the link that was you were watching SpongeBob while I was
making the fruit salad and sometime and all that, I went
into my room to check on the dogs and there was poop
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everywhere. There was poop everywhere.
Everywhere. It was pretty bad, man.
That's interesting because you can have something pushed way
back. Yeah, the poop was pushed way
back under my bed. I had to remove my mattress
before I even noticed it was down there.
You can have something pushed way back in your terminal
memory, and then someone can askyou, hey, do you remember this
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experience? And it's digging out of the sand
and it's getting more and more visible, and then it's in your
working memory for a while before it starts sinking back
into that sand. You're both on your phones and
not listening to me. I'm I'm just making sure that
things are OK. Like Sean, I'm sorry, I don't
currently have in your working memory us sitting on the couch
together and building the Cityplex towers and me having my
(26:35):
lisp. It's now in your working memory
and it'll be in your working memory for a couple days and
it's going to go. It's going to fall back in the
quicksand and be buried down. Yeah, it it's it's like in the
files. Now, yeah, it's that's absurd.
That's interesting. This is the way I like to read
history books where I go throughit and not much stays in my
working memory but. At least pass through there.
(26:56):
It'll pass. It'll pass.
Through my working memory reallyquick, go straight into the
files and then I'll be talking with somebody and they'll say
something about history and they'll be like, Oh yeah, I read
that once. There's also a reason people
have a plan to read through the Bible in one year.
Just read this many chapters so that you can get through the
Bible from the beginning to the end.
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Yeah. You're not really processing all
of it. Yeah.
You're not really meditating on all of it.
You're just going through it so that if something comes up or if
someone has a conversation or someone wants to talk to you
about a fun story that happened in it or a.
You have a recent link to go back into?
Yeah, I remember where that was.Like that even helps them
remember the order that the books happen in as we have them.
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As we have them now, yeah. As we have them now.
OK, last thing to explain is episodic memory.
This is like that thing you said.
We sat on the couch and built the city Plex towers in
Minecraft several years ago and we had a rear float that one
time. It's basically the that one time
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memory. So you remember specific events,
you remember how it affected you, you remember the emotions
that went into it. For example, I do not remember
the Ruby or float part like you.You've brought it up to me over
the last couple weeks and I'm like I'm really trying to
remember but I don't. The day after we both had an our
working memory, but this many years later I don't even have it
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in my permanent memory. Yeah, it's like you can't see.
It but I remember that time period.
Yeah. Do you, do you remember any
specifics about a time at the farm or even the Christmas house
or whatever that Dad served us ice cream on Sunday and we ate
it? Except that that was a thing
that we always did. No, no.
Yeah, I remember. I remember specifically the
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first time he dugout the ice cream maker at the new house,
the Christmas house. Oh yeah, first.
Time he dug it out and made it homemade ice cream.
It was overly salty, but it was homemade.
That's interesting. Something that you do frequently
and. And you'll you can be asked do
you remember a specific time this happened?
You can lie to yourself and be like, Oh yeah, specifically, we
walked in he brought out these three flavors of ice cream.
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Some of something it's like actually that one ice cream was
never with those other two. Yeah.
He's like, wait, I was making upa specific memory of 100
collagulated memories you remember.
You can deceive yourself. With it, the whole first season
of Steven Universe, most of the episodes weren't contingent on
each other. Yeah, there it was just a little
bit about everything in the world.
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And then every season after thatthe episodes run from one to
another story wise. What would that?
So sometimes when something is episodic, and the reason I know
this is because I heard Josh sayit while we were watching.
Arrival, a movie that had something to do with time.
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I don't remember whether it was The Mandalorian or Rebels, but
one of them is like the episode stood alone.
It didn't. I think it must been the
Mandalorian. The one that was like the the
one that was like the Magnificent 7.
It was like kind of its own story.
I think it was that one maybe. But it was the end of an episode
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where it didn't like tie into the big bad guy whose story is
constantly changing or the main characters whose stories are
constantly changing. But it was just character, you
know, world, you know, And that's what I do in Doctor Who
when there's like a memory everybody forgot about.
It's an episode that's not important to all the other ones.
It's just a Pompeii. Maybe this could have happened
or the day of the Doctor, the whole thing was forgotten
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because they all ran to get all the doctors ran together and
they're not allowed to remember that.
Oh my God. So it was an insignificant time.
That's. Crazy wibbly wobbly timey why me
time stuff stuff? Yeah.
So episodic memory would be likeif you remembered that
particular episode but didn't remember anything else.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's so I can remember
Frasier pretty well. I can remember Green Acres
pretty well, but individual episodes not so well.
I remember the main concepts. And then I guess episodic of
that one episode stood out or this one event in an episode
stood out against the others waslike, well, I remember they ate
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hot cakes and they were hard. But that's in a lot of the
episodes. Yeah.
So my memory of it could be run with a bunch of others.
That makes sense. Non episodic memory.
Social memory was the one I made-up.
What do you guys think that would look like?
Yeah. What do you think that would
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look like? I think a similar thing to the
ice cream, we have collagulated memories of emotions that you
share with a person. Social gatherings that happen
frequently, like a book study ora gamified podcast that happens
every once in a while. Five years after that book study
ends or the podcast wraps up andsomeone asks you, do you
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remember? Can you tell me about one
specific time you had together? And it's like, yeah, we played
tennis and we read the book. We cooked microwaved chicken.
I was like, OK, tell me specifically a game that
happened, who got how many points, and then after that,
what chicken you had. And after that, what chapter of
the book you read. You're not going to remember
specifically the order of eventsthey had with that person, but
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you'll remember exactly how you felt with that person and the
the sort of things you did and the sort of things you talked
about. But not necessarily specific
memories, but a memory of the emotions that you shared
together and experiences that you shared together.
Yes, I think I have an even better way.
Hang on, hang on. Very important.
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That was very, very important. So it's like this is like the
vibe of the relationship and what happened.
OK, that's what I was going to. Sorry.
I have a better explanation for this.
My friends, why they're important to me.
It was like it is something thatkind of says this is what this
person is to me. It's like I don't remember
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whether puzzle and I got into a fight or whether Puzzle helped
me with something at some point or what it was.
All I know is my friendship withPuzzle is very important.
And like, I don't remember always particular conversations
I had I had with Sean. I just like they are
intellectual and they are emotionally like charged and
stuff like that. And so I remember that hanging
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out with Sean and talking to himis important, you know?
Well, you don't. Remember the details that gave
you that opinion. Yeah, not the details.
The details. Like I could make up a story
about it and it would still be true to that character.
And so social memories are like,why I like hanging out with
these people, what is so fun andcolorful that I don't remember
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what it was we did or why, but we have so many shared
experiences and we've made so many important foundational
memories for me. That person's important to me
because they make that part of it.
I really like that. Told you it was better this.
Is getting a lot more like vagueand philosophical then gamified.
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True. Interesting about being in
person with each other, which I like.
So this is how you take those characters in the game so that
they stop being silhouettes and they start being so they they
start taking shape and looking like things like I talked about
when I first went to work at Academy, how I felt intimidated
and stuff. But I was able to think about
each of the people I met as someone else I already know.
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Like I'm like, OK, this guy is kind of like this person from my
community group. And when I met that person in
the community group, I was like,this person is kind of like this
cousin of mine. And when I met that cousin, I
was like, this person is kind oflike this brother of mine, you
know? And so they start to take form
until they become their own character, but before that
they're just silhouettes. That's true, with no names and
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no back story. Two important things to say.
Yes. Protein Man.
Johansson, Vermeer. Officer Bohos Cadizzle.
What, where, where did Bohos Cadizzle come from?
When you were house sitting in the Baxter's house.
Oh that guy. Funny thing, I have actually
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started to care about what I eatfor like the first time ever.
Oh man, this is such a perfect segue into the Nanny.
This. Is the segue to the next thing?
Is the next thing a long thing or a wrap up thing?
Is it like a second-half of the episode sort of thing?
It would be best to stop it now.Would you like to give us our
point tally thus far so that we know how to improve ourselves in
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the second-half? Oh, yes, yes, Sir.
Just so that it feels like the episode is wrapping up in one
way or the other. Yeah, it's, it's still, it's
still a thing. Oh my goodness.
It's not a tie, is it? It's not a tie.
That would be the perfect way tokeep A2 parter on hold.
Who's in the lead? Who's in the lead?
Currently, Michael has 18 pointsand Samuel has 19 points.
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That's nearly a tie. It's really, really close.
Right now, focus on my elbow, son.
Oh, Sean and I are better at this.
I I will let you guys know that each round I have a prioritized
blank category. The the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the glory of the Lord to
conceal a matter, the glory of kings to seek it out.
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Wait, hang out. It's the.
Glory of a writer to cover up the plot points, and it's the
glory of the reader to find them.
Hang on, I think I actually justtotally forgot that I
prioritized the points I'm goingto recalculate.
You know what a nerd Dalek says instead of exterminate.
Recalculate. Instead of.
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Exterminate. Recalculate.
Yeah, 'cause Shawn just said recalculate.
Oh, OK, Dalek, for some reason. So I said, what would a nerd
Dalek say? Extremities extrapolate.
I found that funny. You know what a 14 year old girl
Dalek would say? Who?
Exaggerate I. Love sexism?
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Well, I go if you're still behind with 18 Samuel has 23
Holy. Bomber.
The boots you mean about. What?
I have 19, you have 22. 23. 23. I have 18. 23.
Yes. I have 18, not 19.
I have 18. Yeah, I'm sorry.
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He was. He was lucky he hit on the
points on the points prior it. Wasn't lucky it was.
Still talent the round that you hard work to a game I couldn't
give you many points for, but itwas also my fault.
Or I redid my game. And then the same amount of
focus. Or.
The game where I pulled out the turnip in my kitchen asking me
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why I'm there? Yeah, because it was focused on
not rehashing an old game. He rashing.
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, yeah, I gave you some
points for it because you added to it and you made that game
better, but it did feel a littlecheap all.
Right, I will rest around. I did the paper clip the push
pin. To be fair, but I didn't know
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that our preparation time started and then Samuel just
started talking. Hey, I did not, I said.
Ping. I I realized that you were
derailing. OK.
Yeah, you said ping, but I thought that was preparation
time starting. No.
And then you started talking. It was.
First. Well, you were talking.
I was. Making a no.
Yeah, but OK, I'm sorry we got him.
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I'm going to give you a point for the misunderstanding.
What? No, that was me.
That was me being sly. No, he would do the same thing.
I'd take a point away from Samuel.
Remember how he said Ding that first time and I was like, I
didn't know we had established aDing system?
He said. We just now did.
And I'm like, that's not fair. And I complained for the next
hour. It's fine.
It doesn't affect it one way or another.
I'd take just don't do anything.I'd take one point away from
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Samuel. If it's up to him, he's the
host. I mean, that's fine, but you did
let me go for the Ding and you let Puzzle go for his Ding that
other time. OK, I'll give myself -2.
Points Sean. You shouldn't let us.
You shouldn't let us affect. Well, the what affects the host
affects the rest of us. What affects he's the Hostess
with the leastest? What affects the Hostess with
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the leastest? What affects the Hostess with
the leastest? We're taking most just out of
this. Thank you for watching, thank
you for listening, thank you for.
We're not, it's not over. This is just this is just a
break. The next the next episode is
the. 2nd post you can end the. But.
We're going to have to. Say I want you guys to not
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listen to them. Listen to me follow him on
Instagram. Him is Samuel Moser, Meadows
records, Moser and all of the both same clause tuner on
Instagram. Show us where your stuff is.
Records on YouTube. Now it's time for puzzle.
I am protein man. Follow me on puzzle.
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MTM. Everywhere.
Hi, I'm the actual puzzle empty.Sorry, none of this is real.
None of this is. Follow me on Puzzle empty.
If you do search 10 tiny potatoes, my channel comes.
(40:24):
Because there's more videos withSean on your channel than there
are videos that all on all those.
Videos that have the name 10 Tiny Potatoes in the description
are the Deliverance the Moon videos because yeah, he was on
AI. Don't do feelings.
That was a stupid call. Join us for the next part of
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this episode, Episode 23, right?Math was episode 23 or 24
because I don't know how we numbered the two parter of
grocery shopping. Join us for 23.5 or 24.5.
No 24.5 or 25.5. 24.5 or 25 point. 5 or 26. 20 something
point Nuggets. You'll have to follow in order
to know for real. Good scene.
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As we say at the end of the first part of A2 parter game,
pause.
Welcome to Gamify This featuringthe artist Samuel the gamer Sean
the Nerd puzzle. Join them as they transform the
ordinary into extraordinary, infusing your life with purpose,
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fun, and the power of gamification on Gamify this.
Welcome back to game of 5 E and used to camera being up there.
We are in person this time. We have him.
Him. Him.
Him. Sorry we.
Have we have? We have angles switch to me we
have. Angles switching to puzzle.
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Hi hi. Switching to Samuel.
Hi. Switching to couch Hi, this is
the couch view. Hi and back to me.
Wow, you could be Captain Kirk now.
I can be captain. Screen on.
Kevin Kirk All right, welcome back to gamify Dish, the podcast
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game show, free training that wait, we already did this.
I'm excited so. We have very limited time, so
this might be an episode, this might just be a practice.
This is our first time doing it in person.
Here's the thing. All right.
Oh, no. Hey, I forgot about something.
Oh, hey, cool. Me too.
They are making out violently and they died.
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Have you ever forgot something? Well freak you, you guys, I want
you in 30 seconds to remember the most obscure thing in your
life. Most obscure like experience or
fact or whatever. And whichever one has the most
obscure thing, they get points. Obscure or random or weird or
(01:49):
what? Just like the thing you're least
likely to remember. Well, OK, but if it's crazy
enough I'll remember it. I'll think of something boring.
All right, boring in. Specific in the in the rain
boots that we used to have when I lived on the farm, I remember
that the inside of them was kindof like grey cloth that was kind
of plasticky and I couldn't figure out what kind of material
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it was made. Of the what the rain bolts.
The rain boots that we used to wear when we lived at the farm
that we would climb trees in. Oh yeah, yeah, the big.
Black and bulky with red thing at the end, but in the cartoons
I make it I had blue ones with the green thing at the end.
Michael. I was going to say 4321
galvanized nails. Oh wait, you said that before.
(02:36):
Have have I? Am I remembering that?
I feel like you said that. To me, Dang it, I did 4321.
I did 4321. Galvanized.
I need to make it a more obscure#6972.
I'm giving this one to Samuel. I think he got this one.
Hey, you didn't make a very good.
Like, hey leadership, he made a great leader.
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Leadership. More like leader.
Man, we're not allowed to swear.We're not allowed.
To switch scenes to do that. So that was the first light
leading round that is now intro and small talk.
Oh, you know what's cool? When Sam and I look at you,
we're basically looking at our cameras.
That's true. Are you ready to Game of Five
(03:19):
memory? And whatever Sean talks to us,
he faces away from the camera. Yeah, it's OK.
It's OK. It didn't work a little bit
well. Get a good view of your hair and
your ear, your hair that we wantyou to change so that we can
actually get married to you. You know, that's, that's a good
point. I forgot about that.
OK, So you guys have two minutes, OK, to gamify
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remembering the small stuff likeappointments, numbers, things
that are like very menial and easy to forget, but they're
important. OK, very good.
Can iPhone a friend? Sure.
There's got to be a friend in this room.
Hello. Hello.
Oh. I was joking.
It's oh, that was going. To be great.
(04:02):
Jeopardy is going to love that. Hi, this is Daniel from Back at
Home. I'm gonna I'm gonna phone my
friend Mr. TG Pete Chad G Chad GPete Chad GP You know you're
taking space that other people can use for actually planning
this, right? You're kind of stealing from
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other people right now. The scene changes are
unnecessary right now, OK. Ding.
Samuel, Go. All right, so remember names,
remember places, and remember things, especially the ones that
don't seem important. You'll find yourself starting to
integrate these into your daily life so that things that you
could easily forget, people willsuddenly think, wow, you have a
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photographic memory of the most unnecessary things.
I've gotten in the habit when I go to bars of, you know,
scouting out, noticing how many people are there and making sure
I draw each of them before they leave.
So how am I going to remember faces?
Well, it's easy to bark because I'm already drawing those
people. So I know their faces and a
little bit about them. But what if I'm at work and I'm
not actually drawing people because I don't have a pencil
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nearby? Learn something about the people
and then you get their name and you try to associate that with
the person. For instance, this guy's name is
Mike. Well, I met like 5 mics this
week, but he was telling me about this time he was on the
phone and it was a funny story about the phone.
I'm like Mike the phone, something like that.
And suddenly the next time he comes into my place of work,
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he's not just a silhouette walking in there.
He has a face and a name badge above his head.
Now let's talk about place. Photosensitive memory.
Wait, what? I use something called the major
system, but not everybody's familiar with this.
There's a consonant letter associated with each number of
the alphabet. What are numbers called anyway?
Like the number one is AT or TH and so I will create words out
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of addresses. For instance, you pass house 175
and then the next one's house 178.
I don't know how that works, butinstead I'm thinking about house
tail kiss. Tail kiss no.
What house tail case? Take.
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Me out to the ball game think. About what you can do with the
name of the street, 21 Elm St. they think, well, my friend
Jerry lives on Elm Street, but when I think of Elm, I think of
a tree, and I think about my friend Jerry living in a tree
house. Then Elm Street, suddenly more
important, you can do that with each house you pass.
And then those. Instead of all looking identical
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with just numbers on them, each house will look unique with a
story and a fun situation attached to it.
But things? I've got a paper clip, a button,
and a push pin on a napkin on the table in the kitchen.
I have to imagine to remember those things were on the table
in the kitchen. Paper clips are made.
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Hot food. To clip.
Papers together and push pins are made to put notes onto
things, and buttons are what youuse to make eyes on dolls that
are creepy looking. And scarecrows and napkins are
good to tuck into your shirt as a little tie.
And so that is what I'm imagining.
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I'm imagining a doll making notes and tucking A napkin as a
tie into their shirt. And then I can remember what
items were on the table in the kitchen wasn't as strong.
You get originality points. Yay.
You also get one point for diversity.
I didn't just say Sean is here'swhat you do.
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You need to play Elevate. Elevate has a lot of random
things that you need to remember.
Sean would say when I look at each other, we're looking at
each other on the on the thing. Oh, that's true.
That's same, same. A look at me.
That's really cool. I can I can reach it.
That's so cool. Is it going to be organized in
that way it. Is it is right now look, can
you? See.
Well, it is right now, but is that the?
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Oh, that's the final template. Yeah, Sean's switching between
the scenes. Oh, you're going to do that to
begin with. OK, so I gave you some points.
I didn't give you some points because I also didn't exactly
know what you were talking. About I wish my prologue was
shorter. Well, I didn't know what the I
didn't know. I didn't understand the game
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admitted about as much sense as the game did.
That's true. So you were talking about
techniques for remembering things, right?
That's true. OK.
So that's what I did. You know what you're confusing
about that. You're right, I'm just not going
to give you points. For it.
So you don't think that you would remember things that way?
No, I do. Then what did I do that was
wrong? I don't know, Michael, it's your
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turn. All right, so this game is
called This game. This game is called memory
turnip because it's a weird random name.
The main part of this game is you have a six sided die.
It could be a three sided die, but those don't really exist.
If you have a six sided die, if you roll A1 or A2, you have to
explain. Let me backtrack.
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You're going to have to do this exercise once a day and you're
going to write down your journal.
Some things you have trouble remembering, and then every day
you're going to draw three of those random things you have
trouble remembering and you're going to roll A6 sided die.
If you roll one or two, you haveto explain it in depth out loud.
If you roll the three or a four,you have to write it down a
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bunch of times from memory. And if you roll A5 or six, you
have to make a connection relating it to something else
that you have trouble remembering.
And if you succeed, you get XP. If you lose, you lose XPI didn't
figure out an XP system. But at the end of the week,
you're gonna try to list down asmany of those things as you can
remember and compare it to the full list and see if you
remembered them all. If you're if you're like
learning Mongolian as a languageand you have to remember the
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capital of Mongolia and you rollA6.
From Mongolia. And you roll A6, that's the make
a connection thing. So you have to connect the
capital of Mongolia to a color that it makes me think of.
You have to write that color in Mongolian because you're
learning the language of Mongolia.
So that helps you remember not only the geography of Mongolia,
but also the color, the. Name of the color in that
language. Or if you're learning math, if
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you're learning calculus and you're like, what is a
derivative? And you have to do the the
definition of a derivative and you roll A3 or A4, that's that's
writing down for memory. So you have to write down the
definition of a derivative the best you can, and writing it
down the first time will help you remember.
Oh, that doesn't seem quite right.
You're right, second time, right, third time, etcetera.
And then once you feel comfortable, you're compared to
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the way it is. But the goal of the game is you
have this 3 sided die or six sided die, one or two is
explaining it out loud, A3 or A4is writing it down, and a 5 or 6
is making a connection to another thing you have trouble
remembering. OK.
And that's memory turn up. So I think instead of.
I'm so dark in this angle. I know, right?
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I think instead of a die, you should be rolling a turnip.
And if it's excited, it's easy to make one three sided because
all you got to do is have like the cube.
The cube angle shows three options and then you turn it
around and it has the same threeoptions.
You know, so you can do a three sided die.
Also. I zoned out for most of that.
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But when we were talking about the Mongolia thing, it made a
lot of sense to me because when I was learning sign language, I
was encouraged to practice the words that I was doing in sign
language in Spanish because thenthe link because I'm learning
Spanish as well. Yeah, I work a little harder
thinking about that. But it starts to come naturally
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as you learn another language and you speak the first one.
And when you were talking about derivatives there, I was
thinking earlier about, you know, they're not so much harder
to explain as they're like the opposite of etymology.
It's going the other direction. It's what did we get from this
word? What, what, what do we have in
our language that's similar to this word?
And earlier today I was contemplating derivatives
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because I thought of a word thatwas similar to a word we have in
Spanish. Yeah.
Say hello to our other Co producers.
The new cast because a previous cast died exactly.
Oh thank God, that sucked. So it's like, oh, no, hello.
Who are you? I don't know.
Who am I? I don't know.
(12:31):
Identity crisis, OK. Oh no.
Oh no, Huggy is hanging on one of the camera cords.
So this one very quickly is how do you remember?
The present wait. How do you remember to be
present when all of the crack going on in the world is making
you disassociate? How do you remember where you
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are? So it's still about memory.
It's just about taking control of the memory, being able to be
where you. Are when you walk into the
kitchen and you don't remember why you're there.
Like if you're trying to remember what did I come in here
to get a snack? Did I come in here, blah, blah,
blah. Is this creating a game for
moments like that that you can rely on to remember?
(13:14):
Yes, OK. Yeah, that's it.
Can you stop? Speaking French.
So like, you know how when you walk into the kitchen, you're
like, did I come in here to washa dish or get a snack or get a
drink? Why am I in here?
We're making a game to play whenthat happens, when you get into
the kitchen and you're like, where will I remember why I'm
here? I thought it was more like how
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do I be here? Well, the topic is memory.
Yeah. But I think here Sean is like
pivoting a little bit. Well, it's like it's a little
bit adjacent. Yeah, this is like a bonus
round, but adjacent, like how I interrupt the how I interrupt
philosophical with the game, thehistory of a game.
(13:58):
It's basically like practicing practicing mindfulness almost
because we we often forget to bewhere we are, so we have to
remember to refocus. My thought though, I mean, I'm
not trying to argue with you as a host and you can, you can
shoot this down any moment, but my thought is that presence and
mindfulness is a huge broad topic in and of itself.
(14:21):
Wouldn't it be good? And this is you're the host.
You could decide, but wouldn't it be good to like focus on the
memory part of it? Like how to be mindful with your
memory rather than how to be mindful in the present?
Ding. Hang on you guys switch.
Yes. Oh, right.
So I have my game ready. Gosh Dang.
OK. It's all over.
Samuel has started. Negotiations are gone.
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Please send help. The nukes are coming.
The ice cream is coming. He's here.
What does that even mean? Sean was had something in mind
(15:08):
the. End of a train of thought that
wasn't my gosh, he's here with us.
What's happening? They're here.
Like we were expecting them. Samuel, continue your game.
Michael. I don't know what you're going
to do. Good luck.
My game is called Stop and Wonder.
(15:29):
The first level is called Wonderful now, and it is a game
where pretty much it's the opposite of what you're usually
doing when you're playing a video game.
Usually when you're playing a video game, you're racing, going
really fast or you're in a bottle and you're fighting for
conflict, you know, there's there's something that you're
trying to imply you're. In a bomb or whatever.
Fighting in the battle you're fighting, there's a conflict,
(15:53):
But Samuel's sitting in the backwatching the video game and he's
thinking, whoa, the designer made an amazing scene here.
I wish I was just like looking at this scene and enjoying this
art. And then I look at the costumes
on these characters and I'm like, wow, the costume designer
did an amazing job on these characters, designed costumes.
I wish that we had time to pay attention.
(16:14):
You died. You died.
You died. Ooh, the characters are kind of
cool. I wish they didn't die.
So we'll find ourselves in a situation where I'm like running
through my morning, taking care of my dog.
I'm not even counting how many times he poops and trying to get
myself extra points through that.
I'm just thinking about how lateI am for work.
(16:34):
I get to work and I'm thinking about how to make more money.
I'm not thinking about, wow, theride to work was so amazing.
The sky was this color Blue Hillspectrum, a cloud.
But I get points when I do notice those things.
I get points for every time I notice colors.
The more colors I notice, the more color points I get.
Especially if it's about racism.If my ears are paying attention
(16:56):
to sounds like the soundtrack, that or the sound.
You know how they put sound effects in the background of a
game? I get hearing points and if I
notice like the costume design, I get costume points.
So I get points for wearing clothes when I go to work as
well. The second level, the second
(17:18):
level of stop and wonder cuz it's really a 2 trick pony,
whatever you call it, two side coin, A2 level game.
That's what I was trying to say is, is it hard to be here to
begin with? So you have to actually stop in
the middle of what you're doing and make it take a little
longer. The reward is, you know what, if
(17:40):
you're running late, you're running late.
I know that doesn't always win in our world, but make it as it
is. You had to go slow to begin
with. You're a slow person.
That is the glory of the game that you play.
And so if you stop there and wonder what it would be like in
the future, looking back at thismoment, what would you remember?
(18:01):
And as you keep thinking about it and keep making it a good
memory, say, wow, I really like the morning.
I really like walking my dog. I really like driving to work.
I really like being at work, having a job, sipping coffee and
seeing the people around me. The more things you notice, the
more points you get. And if you notice enough things
(18:22):
at the end of the game, you get bonus points as well.
So that's how you play Stop and wonder.
Nice. OK, Michael.
Puzzle. Do you have anything?
Dude, Samuel was thinking about it while we were talking, but I
was thinking about talking whilewe were talking.
So rebel the the game. So the game, the game. -2 XP.
(18:55):
Long one, just one. I just lost the game.
Man, there's a cow. I just lost the game.
Lake. Same.
You'll say it. Cow drooling.
I say I just lost the game, cow.Drooling Shawn just lost the
game, no? OK, so memory turnip that
applies to this perfectly. You have your memory turnip in
(19:15):
your pocket at all times. Unless it rotted.
That whole time I was scrolling Instagram, I was not making my
game. But here's the thing, you have
your memory turnip in your pocket.
You're starting to panic. Pull it out and roll it on the
nearest flat service, whether that be the floor or countertop
your best friend's bald head. And if it is a one or two,
explain your situation out loud.If it's a three or a four, write
(19:36):
it down as best as you can, as many times as you can until you
feel comfortable, or five, or six.
Make a connection to what's happening right now to something
that's happened before, and thatis how you can apply memory
turnip to a current situation. That was good.
Short, sweet and sweat. It's just rehashing my idea that
I already thought of so I didn'thave to use my brain.
It's OK, I gave you points, but I didn't give you originality
(19:59):
points. Reference it is 935 right now.
OK. Do you feel like we've only
scratched the surface of what you want to do here?
Do you feel like we're getting into the middle of what you want
to do here? If we're getting in the middle
of what you want to do here, we could do one more round and make
it a 2 parter again. I think we should make it a 2
parter. I just don't like feeling rushed
(20:25):
with this. Because I Me neither.
I like enjoying the game. I feel like we're not getting
good we're. Losing.
We're losing. Stop and wonder.
Your microphone is red and this table is black.
And I do need to go back to therapy.
Yeah. OK.
Last thing we're going to do today is is.
(20:50):
There going to be another pop quiz in Part 2.
Yeah, awesome. Yeah, OK.
What is not a type of memory? Oh, since we don't have a time
log, we can actually like, raisehands.
What is a type of memory? Yeah, what is not a type of
memory like? Oh, you're going to give a full?
(21:11):
Sorry. What is not a legitimate type of
memory? I made one of these answers up.
The rest of them are like, are real.
Yeah. So it's a working memory, B
sensory memory, C social memory,and D episodic memory.
(21:37):
That's Michael. I am thinking that you made-up
B. And I am thinking that you
made-up a working memory. That's a good thing.
We got points because everybody's war, no.
No, it's episodic memories. It's.
Episodic memories. Because the kind of thing Sean
(21:59):
would say, but not the kind of thing that would really exist.
Actually, it's social memory we.Legally suck at this.
I love it that when we look at each other, it's I'm sorry I
can't get over. It it's real so from what I
understand the working memory. It's like the RAM.
It's what's currently being processed, yeah.
Working memory is the sensory memory is when you can remember
(22:23):
what something felt like ram like you can reap like a
nostalgic. Smell, and you can actually
smell it in your brain, but you're not actually smelling.
It yes, it's like you can actually feel the feeling again.
You know what licking Velvet feels like right now?
Yeah, or like, you know. If you've homemade Mac and
cheese that your mom made you. Exactly.
You can remember taste, you can remember smells, you can
(22:45):
remember slapping your friend and exactly how much pain he
had. The funny thing is some people
don't have bees. This ability.
I know there's a word for all ofthem, but a Fantasia is the
inability to have images in yourbrain.
You can see what you see, you can think of concepts, but you
can't see images. I think there's also.
Concepts. I remember Ratatouille where
he's eating the cheese and the strawberries and it's a black
(23:06):
background and they're swirling stuff.
Yeah, but they don't see that either.
That's how they best describe it.
It's just senses moving around but not physical.
Like I can see an apple floatinghere when I say apple.
Man, that would be so much. But they.
Feel, taste and smell the apple,but they can't see.
It you realize how much cash is in here because of how many
(23:27):
images I'm forming every day, all the time for everything,
yeah. But anyway, I just, I just said
that because you said these are universal experiences and I
thought it'd be fun to mention that some people actually can't
experience these. I'm glad we understand A now.
There's also the type of thing where you have a visual memory
(23:47):
of a smell or a voice. I know a friend who described my
voice as like, sharp and wobbly and like what?
That's a little. Bit more like synesthesia, which
seems to be the opposite. Yeah, well, but you see in
relativity, that looked like synesthesia to me.
The way she described it is she had like an overlay of the
(24:09):
waveforms and she was describingthese things that way.
She can also, I think she can taste sites.
I don't know, she's, she's got some stuff there.
I don't remember what episodic memory is.
I'm going to look it up. You only explained the first one
(24:29):
so far. That was a.
Now you're going all the way to.DI explained B Sensory memory.
You know how when you can re feel something?
Oh, I thought that that was. I thought that was working
memory. No working memory is like I just
ate a sandwich and I'm still thinking about it or I.
(24:50):
That was the RAM 1. Yeah, it's like the stuff.
That I was too busy being sheepish to remember.
It's like the stuff that just happened and whether it's
important or not doesn't really matter because it was so.
It's in the control room of Inside Out.
It can still be touched by the different emotions and stuff.
It's still there. It hasn't been pushed back into
the yeah, library. It.
Have you seen Inside Out? It's like how if you he.
(25:11):
Hasn't seen any Pixar film. So.
You do not listen. So you know how you can remember
what it was like getting here tonight?
Yeah, I can if I choose to. Yeah, that's working memory.
In a month or so, you might not.Yeah, I've thought of that
before. I'm like, which things are not
(25:32):
going to stick? That's interesting.
Yeah, because I remember random events like, Oh yeah, we made
this fruit salad and the thing that linked it was I closed the
door so the dogs would stay in there.
And the link that was you were watching SpongeBob while I was
making the fruit salad and sometime and all that, I went
into my room to check on the dogs and there was poop
(25:52):
everywhere. There was poop everywhere.
Everywhere. It was pretty bad, man.
That's interesting because you can have something pushed way
back. Yeah, the poop was pushed way
back under my bed. I had to remove my mattress
before I even noticed it was down there.
You can have something pushed way back in your terminal
memory, and then someone can askyou, hey, do you remember this
(26:13):
experience? And it's digging out of the sand
and it's getting more and more visible, and then it's in your
working memory for a while before it starts sinking back
into that sand. You're both on your phones and
not listening to me. I'm I'm just making sure that
things are OK. Like Sean, I'm sorry, I don't
currently have in your working memory us sitting on the couch
together and building the Cityplex towers and me having my
(26:35):
lisp. It's now in your working memory
and it'll be in your working memory for a couple days and
it's going to go. It's going to fall back in the
quicksand and be buried down. Yeah, it it's it's like in the
files. Now, yeah, it's that's absurd.
That's interesting. This is the way I like to read
history books where I go throughit and not much stays in my
working memory but. At least pass through there.
(26:56):
It'll pass. It'll pass.
Through my working memory reallyquick, go straight into the
files and then I'll be talking with somebody and they'll say
something about history and they'll be like, Oh yeah, I read
that once. There's also a reason people
have a plan to read through the Bible in one year.
Just read this many chapters so that you can get through the
Bible from the beginning to the end.
(27:16):
Yeah. You're not really processing all
of it. Yeah.
You're not really meditating on all of it.
You're just going through it so that if something comes up or if
someone has a conversation or someone wants to talk to you
about a fun story that happened in it or a.
You have a recent link to go back into?
Yeah, I remember where that was.Like that even helps them
remember the order that the books happen in as we have them.
(27:39):
As we have them now, yeah. As we have them now.
OK, last thing to explain is episodic memory.
This is like that thing you said.
We sat on the couch and built the city Plex towers in
Minecraft several years ago and we had a rear float that one
time. It's basically the that one time
(28:00):
memory. So you remember specific events,
you remember how it affected you, you remember the emotions
that went into it. For example, I do not remember
the Ruby or float part like you.You've brought it up to me over
the last couple weeks and I'm like I'm really trying to
remember but I don't. The day after we both had an our
working memory, but this many years later I don't even have it
(28:21):
in my permanent memory. Yeah, it's like you can't see.
It but I remember that time period.
Yeah. Do you, do you remember any
specifics about a time at the farm or even the Christmas house
or whatever that Dad served us ice cream on Sunday and we ate
it? Except that that was a thing
that we always did. No, no.
Yeah, I remember. I remember specifically the
(28:42):
first time he dugout the ice cream maker at the new house,
the Christmas house. Oh yeah, first.
Time he dug it out and made it homemade ice cream.
It was overly salty, but it was homemade.
That's interesting. Something that you do frequently
and. And you'll you can be asked do
you remember a specific time this happened?
You can lie to yourself and be like, Oh yeah, specifically, we
walked in he brought out these three flavors of ice cream.
(29:03):
Some of something it's like actually that one ice cream was
never with those other two. Yeah.
He's like, wait, I was making upa specific memory of 100
collagulated memories you remember.
You can deceive yourself. With it, the whole first season
of Steven Universe, most of the episodes weren't contingent on
each other. Yeah, there it was just a little
bit about everything in the world.
(29:24):
And then every season after thatthe episodes run from one to
another story wise. What would that?
So sometimes when something is episodic, and the reason I know
this is because I heard Josh sayit while we were watching.
Arrival, a movie that had something to do with time.
(29:45):
I don't remember whether it was The Mandalorian or Rebels, but
one of them is like the episode stood alone.
It didn't. I think it must been the
Mandalorian. The one that was like the the
one that was like the Magnificent 7.
It was like kind of its own story.
I think it was that one maybe. But it was the end of an episode
(30:07):
where it didn't like tie into the big bad guy whose story is
constantly changing or the main characters whose stories are
constantly changing. But it was just character, you
know, world, you know, And that's what I do in Doctor Who
when there's like a memory everybody forgot about.
It's an episode that's not important to all the other ones.
It's just a Pompeii. Maybe this could have happened
or the day of the Doctor, the whole thing was forgotten
(30:30):
because they all ran to get all the doctors ran together and
they're not allowed to remember that.
Oh my God. So it was an insignificant time.
That's. Crazy wibbly wobbly timey why me
time stuff stuff? Yeah.
So episodic memory would be likeif you remembered that
particular episode but didn't remember anything else.
(30:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's so I can remember
Frasier pretty well. I can remember Green Acres
pretty well, but individual episodes not so well.
I remember the main concepts. And then I guess episodic of
that one episode stood out or this one event in an episode
stood out against the others waslike, well, I remember they ate
(31:12):
hot cakes and they were hard. But that's in a lot of the
episodes. Yeah.
So my memory of it could be run with a bunch of others.
That makes sense. Non episodic memory.
Social memory was the one I made-up.
What do you guys think that would look like?
Yeah. What do you think that would
(31:33):
look like? I think a similar thing to the
ice cream, we have collagulated memories of emotions that you
share with a person. Social gatherings that happen
frequently, like a book study ora gamified podcast that happens
every once in a while. Five years after that book study
ends or the podcast wraps up andsomeone asks you, do you
(31:55):
remember? Can you tell me about one
specific time you had together? And it's like, yeah, we played
tennis and we read the book. We cooked microwaved chicken.
I was like, OK, tell me specifically a game that
happened, who got how many points, and then after that,
what chicken you had. And after that, what chapter of
the book you read. You're not going to remember
specifically the order of eventsthey had with that person, but
(32:19):
you'll remember exactly how you felt with that person and the
the sort of things you did and the sort of things you talked
about. But not necessarily specific
memories, but a memory of the emotions that you shared
together and experiences that you shared together.
Yes, I think I have an even better way.
Hang on, hang on. Very important.
(32:40):
That was very, very important. So it's like this is like the
vibe of the relationship and what happened.
OK, that's what I was going to. Sorry.
I have a better explanation for this.
My friends, why they're important to me.
It was like it is something thatkind of says this is what this
person is to me. It's like I don't remember
(33:01):
whether puzzle and I got into a fight or whether Puzzle helped
me with something at some point or what it was.
All I know is my friendship withPuzzle is very important.
And like, I don't remember always particular conversations
I had I had with Sean. I just like they are
intellectual and they are emotionally like charged and
stuff like that. And so I remember that hanging
(33:23):
out with Sean and talking to himis important, you know?
Well, you don't. Remember the details that gave
you that opinion. Yeah, not the details.
The details. Like I could make up a story
about it and it would still be true to that character.
And so social memories are like,why I like hanging out with
these people, what is so fun andcolorful that I don't remember
(33:45):
what it was we did or why, but we have so many shared
experiences and we've made so many important foundational
memories for me. That person's important to me
because they make that part of it.
I really like that. Told you it was better this.
Is getting a lot more like vagueand philosophical then gamified.
(34:10):
True. Interesting about being in
person with each other, which I like.
So this is how you take those characters in the game so that
they stop being silhouettes and they start being so they they
start taking shape and looking like things like I talked about
when I first went to work at Academy, how I felt intimidated
and stuff. But I was able to think about
each of the people I met as someone else I already know.
(34:32):
Like I'm like, OK, this guy is kind of like this person from my
community group. And when I met that person in
the community group, I was like,this person is kind of like this
cousin of mine. And when I met that cousin, I
was like, this person is kind oflike this brother of mine, you
know? And so they start to take form
until they become their own character, but before that
they're just silhouettes. That's true, with no names and
(34:54):
no back story. Two important things to say.
Yes. Protein Man.
Johansson, Vermeer. Officer Bohos Cadizzle.
What, where, where did Bohos Cadizzle come from?
When you were house sitting in the Baxter's house.
Oh that guy. Funny thing, I have actually
(35:15):
started to care about what I eatfor like the first time ever.
Oh man, this is such a perfect segue into the Nanny.
This. Is the segue to the next thing?
Is the next thing a long thing or a wrap up thing?
Is it like a second-half of the episode sort of thing?
It would be best to stop it now.Would you like to give us our
point tally thus far so that we know how to improve ourselves in
(35:37):
the second-half? Oh, yes, yes, Sir.
Just so that it feels like the episode is wrapping up in one
way or the other. Yeah, it's, it's still, it's
still a thing. Oh my goodness.
It's not a tie, is it? It's not a tie.
That would be the perfect way tokeep A2 parter on hold.
Who's in the lead? Who's in the lead?
Currently, Michael has 18 pointsand Samuel has 19 points.
(35:59):
That's nearly a tie. It's really, really close.
Right now, focus on my elbow, son.
Oh, Sean and I are better at this.
I I will let you guys know that each round I have a prioritized
blank category. The the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the glory of the Lord to
conceal a matter, the glory of kings to seek it out.
(36:22):
Wait, hang out. It's the.
Glory of a writer to cover up the plot points, and it's the
glory of the reader to find them.
Hang on, I think I actually justtotally forgot that I
prioritized the points I'm goingto recalculate.
You know what a nerd Dalek says instead of exterminate.
Recalculate. Instead of.
(36:44):
Exterminate. Recalculate.
Yeah, 'cause Shawn just said recalculate.
Oh, OK, Dalek, for some reason. So I said, what would a nerd
Dalek say? Extremities extrapolate.
I found that funny. You know what a 14 year old girl
Dalek would say? Who?
Exaggerate I. Love sexism?
(37:14):
Well, I go if you're still behind with 18 Samuel has 23
Holy. Bomber.
The boots you mean about. What?
I have 19, you have 22. 23. 23. I have 18. 23.
Yes. I have 18, not 19.
I have 18. Yeah, I'm sorry.
(37:35):
He was. He was lucky he hit on the
points on the points prior it. Wasn't lucky it was.
Still talent the round that you hard work to a game I couldn't
give you many points for, but itwas also my fault.
Or I redid my game. And then the same amount of
focus. Or.
The game where I pulled out the turnip in my kitchen asking me
(37:57):
why I'm there? Yeah, because it was focused on
not rehashing an old game. He rashing.
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, yeah, I gave you some
points for it because you added to it and you made that game
better, but it did feel a littlecheap all.
Right, I will rest around. I did the paper clip the push
pin. To be fair, but I didn't know
(38:18):
that our preparation time started and then Samuel just
started talking. Hey, I did not, I said.
Ping. I I realized that you were
derailing. OK.
Yeah, you said ping, but I thought that was preparation
time starting. No.
And then you started talking. It was.
First. Well, you were talking.
I was. Making a no.
Yeah, but OK, I'm sorry we got him.
(38:38):
I'm going to give you a point for the misunderstanding.
What? No, that was me.
That was me being sly. No, he would do the same thing.
I'd take a point away from Samuel.
Remember how he said Ding that first time and I was like, I
didn't know we had established aDing system?
He said. We just now did.
And I'm like, that's not fair. And I complained for the next
hour. It's fine.
It doesn't affect it one way or another.
I'd take just don't do anything.I'd take one point away from
(39:01):
Samuel. If it's up to him, he's the
host. I mean, that's fine, but you did
let me go for the Ding and you let Puzzle go for his Ding that
other time. OK, I'll give myself -2.
Points Sean. You shouldn't let us.
You shouldn't let us affect. Well, the what affects the host
affects the rest of us. What affects he's the Hostess
with the leastest? What affects the Hostess with
(39:22):
the leastest? What affects the Hostess with
the leastest? We're taking most just out of
this. Thank you for watching, thank
you for listening, thank you for.
We're not, it's not over. This is just this is just a
break. The next the next episode is
the. 2nd post you can end the. But.
We're going to have to. Say I want you guys to not
(39:43):
listen to them. Listen to me follow him on
Instagram. Him is Samuel Moser, Meadows
records, Moser and all of the both same clause tuner on
Instagram. Show us where your stuff is.
Records on YouTube. Now it's time for puzzle.
I am protein man. Follow me on puzzle.
(40:03):
MTM. Everywhere.
Hi, I'm the actual puzzle empty.Sorry, none of this is real.
None of this is. Follow me on Puzzle empty.
If you do search 10 tiny potatoes, my channel comes.
(40:24):
Because there's more videos withSean on your channel than there
are videos that all on all those.
Videos that have the name 10 Tiny Potatoes in the description
are the Deliverance the Moon videos because yeah, he was on
AI. Don't do feelings.
That was a stupid call. Join us for the next part of
(40:44):
this episode, Episode 23, right?Math was episode 23 or 24
because I don't know how we numbered the two parter of
grocery shopping. Join us for 23.5 or 24.5.
No 24.5 or 25.5. 24.5 or 25 point. 5 or 26. 20 something
point Nuggets. You'll have to follow in order
to know for real. Good scene.
(41:07):
As we say at the end of the first part of A2 parter game,
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