May 7, 2025 • 54 mins
A historic house that bends time and captures spirits. The Doss House of Loretto emerged from heartfelt grief when Shauna Rigsby lost her mother to cancer in September 2023 after a devastatingly brief seven-week battle. What started as a way to honor her mother's unfulfilled dream of owning an Airbnb transformed into something far more profound – a paranormal destination where the boundaries between our world and others seem remarkably thin.
Built in 1810 and likely serving as one of the original meeting houses for the town founded by Prince Galitzin, the Doss House sits across from a basilica in a deeply Catholic community. Its walls have witnessed countless lives as it functioned variously as a barbershop, doctor's office, dentist practice, and even an undertaker's establishment. But what makes this location truly extraordinary are the unexplained phenomena that defy conventional understanding.
Investigators have documented security cameras spontaneously resetting to December 31, 1969, a visitor's smartwatch completely failing to register her existence during her time in the house, and phones entering SOS mode upon leaving the property. Objects move on their own, disembodied voices echo through empty rooms, and shadow figures dart through doorways. One particularly compelling incident involved a phone smoothly pivoting on its own while a blindfolded investigator sat nearby, followed immediately by equipment responses indicating an intelligent presence.
For Shauna and her wife Danielle, operating the Doss House and their paranormal team "Unique Paranormal 1.5" represents more than just ghost hunting – it's a healing journey. As Shauna poignantly shares, "Doing all of these things has become my grief journey." The name of their team itself reflects their humble aspiration to embody even "half of what my mother was in this field," carrying forward her values of inclusivity, respect, and genuine community-building.
The ethos of the Doss House stands in refreshing contrast to the sometimes rigid structures found in paranormal investigation. Here, the focus remains on having meaningful experiences, bringing people together, and maintaining a profound respect for both the living and whatever might exist beyond our understanding. As Shauna beautifully articulates, "If you go into something with true, pure intentions and stay steadfast in that, the sky's the limit."
Want to experience the time-bending mysteries of the Doss House for yourself? Connect with Shauna and Danielle through Facebook, email them at thedosshouse.278@gmail.com, or check out their website at thedosshouseofloretto-pa.com to book your own investigation.
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Shawnna Rigsby (00:00):
First of all, the Doss house came to be
because, again, this was anotherextension of my mom and to do
something in my mother's honor.
She always wanted to own anAirbnb.
Well, you know, mom, like wejust didn't have those kind of
funds lined up at the moment.
So, because my mom always hadthat dream, my wife was on a
(00:21):
mission, like she was searchinghigh and low and like trying to
find any place cool that wasrelatively close to home so it'd
be easier for us to manage.
Logan Mathias (00:33):
Thank you, Well, hey everybody, welcome back.
(01:22):
Hey everybody, I'm Logan andI'm Nicole and we are Generation
X Paranormal.
Nicole Mathias (01:27):
Yes, we are.
Logan Mathias (01:30):
Yeah, guys, welcome back Great show.
Got something really cool linedup.
I don't know when this iscoming out, but right now it is.
I don't know.
It's 54 outside and a couple ofdays ago it was 80 almost, and
I'm really sick of this.
Nicole Mathias (01:47):
We're in that part of spring in the Midwest
where it bounces roller coasterride.
Logan Mathias (01:53):
That's ridiculous .
Nicole Mathias (01:54):
In the middle of tornadoes.
Yeah, nadirs.
Logan Mathias (01:57):
Which, by the way , living in the Midwest is just
so much fun to worry about that,Especially where we live.
They never really I don't wantto say that, but typically they
come late at night or in themiddle of the night, so you know
when you're half asleep and youthink the paranormal is scary,
I'll take a ghost any day, anyday.
Anyway, I digress.
(02:18):
So today we have on ShaunaRigsby and, yeah, this is
exciting.
What can you tell us aboutShauna?
Nicole Mathias (02:31):
So Shauna, shana Rigsby and yeah, this is
exciting.
What can you tell us aboutShana?
So Shana Rigsby, she's, youknow, in this with her wife
Danielle.
She's the owner and founder ofthe Doss House of Loretto and
Unique Paranormal 1.5.
Yeah, yeah, so we're going toget kind of into that, okay.
Logan Mathias (02:39):
That sounds great , we're talking to her yeah.
Let's talk to Shana.
Well, hey, shana, welcome toGeneration X Paranormal.
Thank you.
Yeah, we're excited to have youfor a couple of reasons.
One, and we'll get to thelocation here shortly, but you
got a really cool history withthe team that you investigate
with, which we definitely wantto get to, because I think
(03:00):
Nicole and I found that prettytouching and heartwarming.
It was pretty cool.
But before we jump into that,we should kind of start with
what brought you here, tell us alittle bit about yourself and
kind of what got you to thispoint.
Shawnna Rigsby (03:13):
Basically probably about 15 years ago.
You know I was that kid that alot of people start off as a
skeptic and you know, my mom wasso into the paranormal field
and she was so excited about itand tell us all these crazy
stories and I was like, yeah,you're just full crap, like
whatever you know.
(03:34):
So, uh, she happened to likedrag me along, do a couple of
things and, um, in the midst ofall that, like just certain
things happened that I was like,hey, maybe there's something
happening here, and you know, Ijust go sporadically.
And then she started draggingme along to the Gettysburg
Battlefield Bash where I metmore very interesting, wonderful
(03:59):
people.
I was more intrigued about thepurpose behind the event more
than I was paranormal side,because at that point I was
still like maybe they stillthink about crap, mom, you know.
So go in and shopping andbuying all the cool stuff.
That was kind of my gig withher and it was something that we
could just do together.
We lived in several hours apartfrom each other at that time,
(04:23):
so it was just something thatbrought us together to hang out
and do stuff.
So that's what initially got meinto the paranormal field.
Logan Mathias (04:31):
Yeah, yeah, and it's funny because my I guess my
father kind of got me started.
We've all been throughdifferent experiences and
Nicole's got hers and I'vedefinitely got mine.
But it's funny how our parentsusually kind of dictate the flow
of these things.
My dad absolutely was a big,big believer and I think I was
(04:56):
with you.
I was kind of like, Dad, Ithink you're kind of bullshit,
but we'd go some places andyou'd be like oh, this is really
cool.
And we were in Arizona andthere's a couple of places out
there that, especially in Tucson, that we'd go to and you'd get
the feels and I rememberthinking to myself yeah, I don't
know.
Of course, this was many, manyyears later.
I had my own, you know my ownexperience, so but it's
(05:18):
interesting how some of us kindof get started, yeah, agreed,
kind of, I guess, really kind ofdovetailing off that let's talk
a little bit about your mom andkind of the group that she
started and absolutely whereit's at now.
Shawnna Rigsby (05:33):
Yeah, so my mom started this.
It's kind of hard for me topinpoint the exact time.
It was about 10 or 12 years ago.
She was actually living inWestchester, her husband was a
professor out there and I wasliving in St Mary's and she had
always wanted to be part of aparanormal group.
She had always had abilitiesand just trying to find that
(05:57):
niche or the right people wasvery hard and I think still is
for a lot of people.
They're interested in it.
They just don't know where toturn or who to ask without
people thinking they'reabsolutely nuts.
So basically she just by chanceran into this wonderful woman I
believe she was at like ahistory type museum and clicked
(06:17):
with this woman who hadcurrently had her own paranormal
group and my mom startedjoining her and going on some
adventures with her.
And then later, of course, mymom, her husband, traveled a lot
because he was a professor, sohe took another job in another
state and when she moved thereshe created her own group and
(06:41):
she named it Unique ParanormalOne and she ran that for a few
years and we'd travel up there,she'd host events, um, hooked up
with quite a few groups thatare um associated with the bash,
met a lot of great people there.
Um, so, yeah, just slowlystarted to grow her own group in
her own way and, um, let it lether team.
(07:03):
The way she saw fit inintegrity and respect for spirit
Definitely grew a lot ofrespect for my mom watching her
do things like that.
She was just always so kind andalways there for everybody and
just her attitude towards theparanormal itself.
With the amount of respect andthe way that she did things, I
(07:25):
think, kind of pulled me in alittle bit more.
And seeing her do readings forpeople that I knew she had no
idea who they were, that is whatactually sucked me in 100%.
So, yeah, she had her groupUnique Paranormal One In about
July of 2023, she had been sick,battling some issues with a leg
(07:46):
of hers for a while.
Doctor after doctor, specialistafter specialist never found
anything.
And it was in July of 2023, shehad been scheduled for a
surgery because she was havingso much trouble with her left
leg and it was during thissurgery that they had found a
lesion on her outer thigh, onher bones, that was then
(08:10):
determined that she had stagefour terminal bone cancer.
She made it about seven moreweeks.
So it was very quick, very fast, very traumatic for all of us
and September 2023, she passedaway.
So in the moment of all of that, you know whirlwind, me and my
(08:31):
wife Danielle took care of herfor those last seven weeks.
I basically lived with her,popping back home every once in
a blue moon to check on my son,who's an adult.
But checking in on those, thosegrown adults, um trust me, you
know so, once she passed away,and it didn't really hit me till
recently, that doing all ofthese things has become my grief
(08:55):
journey.
So it just in the moments of,you know, grieving on my own, I
decided, um, that I was going tocontinue my mother's paranormal
group and we me and my wifehave named, renamed the group,
unique Paranormal 1.5 andsymbolizing basically that we
(09:15):
could at least be half of whatmy mother was in this field.
So, yeah, that's how the groupstarted and we started doing
things together with.
Our group basically started offwith anybody who was close to
my mom her best friend Cheryl,my best friend Beth, who was
like a daughter to my mom.
We started off there and justopened it up to the community.
(09:38):
Anybody anywhere, whoeverwanted to join us to go have fun
and you know, and hunt forspooky ghosts.
People were allowed and we'vemet a lot of amazing people.
We've gathered some reallygreat team members through that
and basically our mission isjust to have fun, be respectful.
Anybody at any time is allowedto join us and that's what we do
(10:00):
.
Nicole Mathias (10:02):
That's super cool.
Logan Mathias (10:03):
That's a beautiful beginning, yeah, and
you hear a lot like everybody ona team has to have a tech
person or like a medium.
I mean, there's always likethese roles that you have to
fill and I think sometimes youforget that you're really just
kind of there to enjoy whatyou're doing and you get kind of
lost in the weeds of all thesedifferent roles and who's in
(10:26):
charge or anyway any of thatstuff, and uh, you tend to
forget that, first of all, ifyou want to deal with the
paranormal and you want toinvestigate the paranormal,
they're really not going torespect your roles, no matter
who could care less.
And uh, you know, it's just yougot to remember that the whole
point of it is, like you said,to have some fun, which is
(10:48):
that's great.
You know, I lost my dad and wesay all the time or at least I
do that if he was still aroundhe'd probably be our third cast
member because you know he wasjust so into this.
So, yeah, it's great, we're sohappy to know that you guys are
doing that, you know, and and,like you said, with you and your
wife kind of doing everythingsort of as like that almost that
(11:11):
family kind of feeling, I wouldthink that kind of helps with
investigation too, because youknow we've investigated with a
lot of different types.
You know we definitely have hadsome investigations with things
that are much more stringent.
And, yes, there's a leader andan instructor, which is fine.
There's nothing wrong with it,it's just that's the way they do
(11:32):
it.
And then you go and youinvestigate with people who have
zero structure and you findsometimes that it is a different
experience.
Shawnna Rigsby (11:42):
It's a blessing and a curse at the same time.
Yes, so you know, like some ofour group members I've known for
years and years and years andit's like hanging out with your
sister, like sometimes you wantto choke her, you know.
Or you know a chatty Kathy andCheryl, you know, just can't be
quiet sometimes.
But like I said, at the end ofthe day it's all in love and
(12:04):
good fun and you know that'swhat it's all about for us.
Logan Mathias (12:08):
okay, yeah, that's awesome.
So with your group and againwe're gonna go ahead and get
into the dawes house here injust a minute.
But, um, how close are you guysto gettysburg?
Um about two hours okay, so nottoo far.
Are you like towards york orthe other way?
Other way, we're more towardsthe pittsburgh side okay, yeah,
(12:29):
I've been in that area a fewtimes so I kind of had an idea
where this was.
So I just was, I was justcurious um, yeah, definitely a
bucket lister for sure thatplace.
Now we haven't gone as a, as youknow.
Obviously my wife and I were ateam, but, um, I've been there a
couple of well, at least onetime.
And then I went to Antietam,which is also pretty crazy.
(12:51):
But walking around Gettysburgis like if you don't get the
feels there and you don't,you're into the paranormal.
You might want to rethink somethings.
Shawnna Rigsby (13:04):
It's a whole different level for people,
though.
Logan Mathias (13:07):
Absolutely yeah, so that's cool.
Nicole Mathias (13:10):
Still never been .
Logan Mathias (13:11):
Yeah, we're going .
We've been to the.
Nicole Mathias (13:13):
East Coast.
Logan Mathias (13:14):
I know.
Nicole Mathias (13:15):
I haven't been up that way, we'll make it
before we go there sometime.
Logan Mathias (13:20):
Okay, so the Dawes house Um, so I know I've
got a little bit of the historyfrom some of the other
paranormal investigators thathave put stuff online and kind
of, you know, with thebackground that you have on
Facebook, can you kind of giveus your version and what you
know about the house and kind of?
(13:41):
I really just kind of startthere.
What's some of the historybehind it?
Shawnna Rigsby (13:45):
For sure, history for sure.
So, first of all, the Dosshouse um came to be because,
again, this was anotherextension of my mom and to do
something in my mother's honor,um, she always wanted to own an
Airbnb.
Well, you know, mom, like wejust didn't have those kind of
funds lined up at the moment.
So, um, because my mom alwayshad that dream, my wife was on a
(14:09):
mission, like she was searchinghigh and low and like trying to
find any place full that wasrelatively close to home, so
it'd be easier for us to manage.
And we, honestly, we talk aboutall the time we can't even
remember the exact point how theDoss house fell in our lap.
We can't even remember theexact point how the Doss house
(14:30):
fell in our lap.
We just knew we were drivingthrough this little town, which
is not far.
Because that's what we do.
We're like, ok, we're goingadventuring today, let's go see
what we can find Vacantproperties.
You know that's where we wereat Vacant properties, get a hold
of the landowner, see if wecould get in there.
And we saw this place and shehad known about it for years but
just it just didn't come to theforefront of her mind.
(14:52):
So we were driving through thistown and I saw this house and I
was like whoa, and she's like,oh my gosh, like I forgot about
this place.
And she knew just who tocontact to get you know, in
contact with the owner, and wedid.
She agreed to meet us over thereand contacted the owner, and we
did she agreed to meet us overthere, um, and when I tell you
(15:13):
the field, I'm telling you it'sit's definitely, uh, a unique
place for sure, um, but you knowthe intention behind it we want
to have a haunted location inhonor of my mom.
So we need to see if it'sactually haunted right.
So we're very hesitant becausethis house is in the middle of a
very catholic town.
You have a basilica across thestreet, you have schwab estates
(15:35):
with the sunken gardens ofmontecito at the other end, um,
so we're like we start to tellthis the owner of the property
what our intentions are and, toour surprise, she was like that
sounds awesome.
So we were like thank goodnessso she agreed to let us in there
prior um to check it out andinvestigate it.
(15:58):
Before you know, we decided tomake any type of offer on it and
the first time that we went inthere, I will just say, uh, the
night started off with a bang.
Literally, it was a couple ofus me, my wife, my daughter went
with us and two of our closestfriends her husband non-believer
(16:19):
, 100% non-believer, and all Iwill tell you is, after this
night, his opinion changed.
Nicole Mathias (16:28):
I love to watch that transition transition.
Shawnna Rigsby (16:30):
Oh man, it was something.
I'll tell you what.
Um.
So yeah, that's, you know.
A couple of days later, wetalked to the owner again.
I made her an offer.
She was very willing to be ridof this property.
It was kind of just like a painin her, but she didn't want to
deal with it anymore.
Um, and here we are.
Once we got the keys and we gotin there, we got to work right
(16:51):
away, because obviously my mom'smost favorite holiday was
Halloween, so our goal was toopen it to the public on
Halloween, and that's exactlywhat we did, and it's been crazy
, crazy whirlwind ever since.
Sure.
Logan Mathias (17:06):
That's really cool.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's interesting when youfind it.
Now we know, we know a fewpeople that have their own
properties.
Of course we've met and talkedand actually investigated with
Stephanie O'Reilly at theMcIntyre Villa.
We've had a few other peoplelike, I think, jill Shelley on,
and you know some other folkswho have purchased Shelly on,
(17:27):
and you know some other folkswho have purchased a haunted
home or a haunted uh place andthe answer is yes, I would buy
one.
But it is interesting becausewhen you buy something with the
knowledge of knowing that you'returning it into potentially a
paranormal hots or it's alreadya hotspot, but you know a
paranormal attraction per se,you know you always think to
(17:49):
yourself OK, what are, what aresome of the guidelines?
How do I want to go about this?
It must be pretty daunting tohave all that going on.
Plus, oh yeah, it happens to behaunted.
Shawnna Rigsby (18:01):
So, yeah, definitely, definitely, was in
honor of my mom.
So if we made you know, if wemade enough money to sustain it,
great.
If we didn't, ok cool.
Our team has an awesome placeto investigate and expand our
(18:24):
abilities and learn more things.
So I think that was a jumpstartfor us to push us in the right
direction, and still is today,by us staying steadfast in our
beliefs and the mission behindthis and what we're trying to do
and bring communities togetherand helping people the way that
my mother always did.
So I think, when you putsomething in front of yourself
(18:45):
and you stay true to theoriginal meaning of that, there
is no other room but to besuccessful.
Logan Mathias (18:52):
Absolutely.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense,Not to mention the fact that
you know it's all kind of afamily.
Now, talking about family withyour wife Danielle, is she more
a believer than a skeptic?
Because I think you mentionedyou were much more skeptical and
I'm always curious about thatdynamic.
Because of us, I'm probably themore skeptical, I'm more the
(19:15):
believer.
So I'm always curious about howthat goes.
Shawnna Rigsby (19:19):
So Danielle started off.
She works in the medical field,she works in the operating room
, so she's very much scientificbrain.
There was always a reason or alogical explanation for
everything when we first met.
From the moment she met mymother, things changed.
It's going different places andher actually being in the
(19:45):
position for things to happen toher that she literally could
not logically explain, andrecently, encompassing the fact
that Daniel actually does havevery strong abilities that she
never realized she had beforebecause her mind just wasn't
open to it.
I think that plays a big part ofit too.
The way you were raised, thingsyou were taught as a child very
(20:08):
much depicts how your thoughtprocess works.
So if you were constantly toldthat this is wrong and you
shouldn't be doing this and thisisn't real, then that's what
you believe Until you know theseother options are opened up for
you and you do start openingyourself up to the possibility
that it could be real, and thenit just flows in like somebody
(20:31):
opened blood gates and that'sexactly what's happened to her
and she now is a million percenta believer that's awesome.
Nicole Mathias (20:41):
I love to hear that, yeah, yeah well, and it's
funny because it's interestingbecause you're very much like
that I.
I am.
Logan Mathias (20:49):
I'm also not to make it about me, but you know
I'm very skeptical, but yet Ialso have whatever the heck it
is that I have going on with meas far as just sensing things
and being able to call somethings out.
It's just interesting.
And what's also interesting isthat she's in the medical field
(21:09):
and that's what I was in when Iwas in the military.
I was a medic, so I find thatincredibly interesting.
Nicole Mathias (21:17):
I was listening to you talk about it and I'm
like that's so fun.
Shawnna Rigsby (21:21):
Somebody should definitely take a survey
somewhere.
I know right.
Left and right, like what'severybody's backgrounds.
Where were you and where areyou?
Nicole Mathias (21:29):
Exactly.
Logan Mathias (21:31):
Exactly Okay.
So now you've got this propertyand you're ready to get
everybody in there and startinvestigating.
First off, your team.
What did you guys seem like?
What's some of the experiencesthat you guys have had there?
What did?
Shawnna Rigsby (21:48):
you guys seem like.
What is what some of theexperiences that you guys have
had there?
Well, for the first while wewere the only ones obviously in
there doing anything, even justcleaning the place out this
place was completely hoarded out.
It was built in 18.
The original part of thestructure was built in 1810.
The house had sat vacant foralmost two years.
(22:10):
Not really sure 100% of thebackstory from the last family
that was there, but thislocation was completely hoarded
out so it took us a while toclean that out.
So in the midst of all of that,so many things, so many noises,
disembodied voices, shadowfigures that we all would see
(22:32):
being growled at in certainspots, sounds of kids you could
hear over in the barbershop orin the big like there was just
so many unexplained things orlike, oh, whose stomach was that
?
Or oh, did somebody say.
You know you always are doublequestioning and thinking.
So by the time all of that wasdone and we had everything
(22:52):
cleaned out, you know we triedto keep 80% of what was in the
house original to the house.
That was very important to us,and only bringing in things that
were necessary, like a bed anda couch, stuff like that.
So, like I said, when you go inthere, a lot of it is
pertainable to the house, thelocation, the town.
(23:15):
But the weirdest thing was soyou have the living room and
upstairs.
That was the originalestablishment built in 1810.
Then later in the 1800s, therewas a dining room built onto the
back.
Early 1900s, then there was akitchen put on and mid-1900s was
when the barber shop was addedto the property.
Now, originally the barber shopwas not, it was its own entity,
(23:40):
literally about six feet fromthe side of the house, and
that's where the barber had hisbusiness.
That's where the barber had hisbusiness.
We later found out that whenhis wife felt ill, he then
connected the two parcelstogether with a ramp and moved
her over there for the end ofher life.
So now you know, connectingeverything together.
(24:05):
We did find out some interestingfacts about the place.
We discovered just through ourinvestigation our very first
night there.
We had a lot of informationcoming through.
Later did some fact checking100% true of a story of a woman
but all the names we weregetting the occurrences that had
happened to her.
We actually did fact check andfind an article that was
(24:29):
relatable to that.
We have found that there hasbeen obviously the barber, there
was a doctor there, there was adentist there and an undertaker
there.
We have had a lot of activityfrom Father Prince Galitzen, who
was the priest at the basilicaacross the street.
We have had some activity withhim.
(24:51):
We're starting to believe wehaven't found the records of
this yet but that this was theoriginal structure built in this
town.
So Prince Galitsin founded thistown in 1799.
Frank, the historian who livedacross the road, told us that
the properties were not deededfor homes until about 1816 to
(25:13):
1890.
Well, the first piece ofpaperwork for this location was
1810.
So we're leaning to believethat this was constructed and it
was an original log built outof logs.
You can see that throughout thebasement and the structure and
the posts and stuff.
So we believe this was theoriginal meeting house of the
(25:34):
town as they were trying tobuild and establish.
Frank also told us that foryears and years he tried to deem
this property a historical siteand was unable to because there
were so many missing documentsbetween 1799 and 1810.
And then again from 1810 to1843, where then it was then
(25:56):
deeded an actual property to belived in and as a home.
So because there was thoseyears of unmarked actual
paperwork, paper trail, he wasnot able to deem it a historical
site.
So we're still digging, we'restill trying.
In the beginning it was so hardto find anything until Frank
(26:21):
came over and startedchit-chatting with us and told
us where to look.
He had a whole bunch ofinformation because he worked on
it for years and he's reallycool about it.
Anything, anytime anythingcomes up, we can always ask him.
And we did get lucky and get ateam member who we met at a
festival and she happened to seemy mom's picture on our table
(26:43):
as Unique Paranormal One and itjust intrigued her to walk over.
And she is now very much partof our team and she is basically
our history guru.
She goes in our fact checker,she checks all the documents,
digs into the libraries, allthese sites, and so when
something pops up, Brittany'sthe gal.
If there's a linked documentout there somewhere, she's going
(27:05):
to find it.
So, that's how we've been ableto kind of start linking the
pieces together and say, yes,this is factual to the house.
No, this, maybe, this is, maybeit isn't, but we don't have any
way to.
You know, back that up withdocuments and that's a big thing
for us too is trying to, youknow, link activity with actual
fact.
(27:25):
That's a big thing for us.
Another cool fact about thisplace is because it's so new.
It's literally like peelingback an onion, like every time a
group goes in there, somebodygets something else.
We, we can fact check it.
Awesome, cool, you know.
And we just just keep goingwith that and getting all these,
um, psychic mediums coming andwalking through and giving us
(27:46):
our, their opinions of what theybelieve the place is.
That matches up with theprevious one that has gone in
there, so that's been reallycool too.
So, yeah, definitely,definitely, uh, a track that
will suck you in for sure yeahdown the rabbit.
Logan Mathias (28:05):
Yeah, we understand that, like especially
doing the research, you findsomething and then you're just
like in it forever because youit's just the little tidbits
here and there yeah, and it'sgreat that having such a I mean
you say you don't have all thehistory, which is it kind of
sucks, but you know, that's theamount of history they never go
out.
(28:25):
Yeah, it's incredible.
Uh, you know, with, especiallywith some of these older towns,
someone just didn't even keeprecord of some of that stuff
when they were first started orthey got burnt up.
Shawnna Rigsby (28:36):
That happens a lot too right, yeah, we did hear
about that too.
Yeah, yeah I know what it makesit up we have.
We have gotten a lot.
We have, yeah, you know therehas been.
So basically the the record of1810 and then it jumped to 1843.
From there on, we've basicallybeen able to find most things
relatable.
Logan Mathias (28:55):
That's so cool.
Yeah, you're very fortunate.
And it makes perfect sense forit to have been some kind of
city building, especially withthe Basilica being across the
street.
That would just make sensebecause people would probably go
worship and then they wouldmeet in that same area.
Nicole Mathias (29:13):
Think about all the energy going between a place
of worship to the main townhall, back and forth.
I mean no wonder this place isprobably supercharged.
Shawnna Rigsby (29:23):
It's insane.
It's so much fun.
Logan Mathias (29:26):
It's so cool, so okay.
So you guys have had yourdefinitely your fair share of
activity.
What have you seen?
Some of the other now youmentioned it is still fairly new
, which is awesome, but out ofthe people that have
investigated, what's some of thestuff that they've taken away
where you've gone?
Okay, I didn't expect that gone.
Shawnna Rigsby (29:51):
Okay, that I didn't expect that.
Well, I can say, um, there hasnot yet been a group in there
that hasn't gotten some sort ofactivity.
Um, whether you know, there'sobviously more quieter nights
than some.
Um, I would say, probably theevent that sticks out in my mind
the most, um would be when somepals of our local group here
they're called Dark HollowParanormal they were in there,
(30:14):
pretty large group.
So what we do when you have alarge group like that, because
the house is on the smaller side, we let them rent the house for
the weekend and they just splitinto two groups, so they were
rotating, like the guys and thegirls.
So the girls were there at thistime and they were standing at
the bottom of the steps becausethey heard something upstairs.
(30:37):
And two of them were standingat the bottom of the steps and
what they thought they heard wasa grovel or some type of voice.
Literally scared the bejesusright out of them, because
they're literally staringupstairs into darkness and
hearing this noise, they bothbolt left the stairway, light
(30:58):
comes on and they're runningthrough, screaming into the
living room.
Well, in that moment and theydidn't realize it because you
know they're being big chickensand they're running and
screaming.
The REM pod on the bed upstairsis going crazy.
So that's another cool thingthat we have in the house.
We have cameras everywhere soif something happens in that
(31:18):
moment we can go back, pull upall the different angles.
Um, just to make sure, wewanted to make sure that nobody
hit the light switch when sheran away to turn the light on.
Um, and when I was checking allof that stuff for them was when
I was like holy crap, that REMpod is going nuts.
So that was a really cool.
And when they were coming backinto the dining room they had it
(31:40):
was a piece of their equipmentsome type of nun doll or
something like that that onlygets triggered when certain I
don't really even, but in thatmoment then that doll went off
as well and they took offscreaming again.
Nicole Mathias (31:57):
So entertaining to watch.
Shawnna Rigsby (32:00):
Hysterical is there yeah, yeah, um, some other
groups that have been in there.
We recently had PunkoParanormal very unexplained
occurrence in the basement, verycreepy, creepy basement.
He was under Estes, by himselfdown there couldn't see anything
(32:22):
.
I think he was under Estes, Ithink he was under no, I think
he was under assist.
Regardless, he was blindfolded.
He had his cell phone leaningup against one of the support
posts on himself and then achair to the left of that he had
(32:42):
a REM pod sitting.
Coincidentally, if a phone isleaning up against a pole, you
would think if it's going toslide, it's going to tip over,
right, right.
So the phone was like this andit literally just pivoted and
then stood up sideways while wewere all watching the live.
We were like is somebody elsedown there?
Because literally his phone,just a nice, smooth transition,
(33:04):
just kind of just turned andthen stopped pointing away from
him and then in that moment thatthat happened, his REM pod
started going crazy.
So I then pulled up the footagebecause I'm like somebody had
it right and no, I pulled up thefootage, sent it to them.
Literally, smooth transition.
You see the phone turn, niceand smooth and just kind of rest
(33:29):
this way, and then the rum podstarted going crazy.
Yeah, there was actually anincident in the house that I was
involved in in the middle ofthe day.
I had taken two people in whohad never been there before.
They just so happened to beavailable and through the area
that day.
So I'm like, yeah, sure I'llcome meet me over there.
We're standing in the kitchenand we hear, like this,
(33:51):
scratching and then a bang overin the dining room.
So we go, we're like what thewas that?
So we go through from thekitchen over into the dining
room and as soon as we made itto the dining room there's a
crawl space Again a super creepycrawl space right above the
dining room that I keep a REMpod in, and it was going crazy.
(34:13):
So later on that evening myfriend Sarah had messaged me and
said, hey, pull up the footagefrom that time and just see what
happened.
So I did, and in that momentwe're standing in the kitchen.
You see something dark flashthrough the breezeway that goes
(34:33):
over to the dining room.
Then you hear the scratch andthe bang and then you hear the
REM pod going off.
So that was very interesting,to say the least.
She then proceeded to tell methat her smartwatch for the day
showed that she did not existfrom the time that she left her
house come to the Dots houseuntil she returned back home,
(34:53):
and that was the first time thatthat had ever happened to her.
When she got to the property,her phone would not work, which
is not uncommon.
Um, that has happened to a lotof people.
Um and the houses.
There's certain times that thecameras are stuck in a time loop
, so time loop stuff happensthere all the time.
We had two of the cameras thekitchen and the barbershop.
(35:16):
There was an incident again.
I was in the house, me and myson were doing some last minute
things before the first groupwas supposed to go in there, and
my wife was actually away atwork in Lancaster.
And she's she's like hey, whatare you doing?
I'm like I was just gettingready to leave the house, why?
She's like well, I just pulledup the cameras and I saw
somebody in the kitchen and Iwas like I'm just walking,
(35:39):
walking out the front door.
There's nobody in the kitchen.
She's like go check, I go overthere, nothing.
Obviously middle of the dayagain.
She's like okay, wait, that'snot the weirdest thing.
She's like the time and thedate on the camera says December
31st 1969.
That's, and I was like whatthat's on?
(36:01):
So in that moment I I pull upall of the other cameras and,
mind you, everything's hooked tothe internet.
So where is this date comingfrom?
Right?
right all of the other cameraswere legitimate.
New Year's Eve 1969 in thekitchen and New Year's Day 1970
(36:28):
in the barbershop, two roomsside by side of each other.
We tried calling the securitycompany, we tried resetting the
cameras, we tried changing theSD cards and the company was
like we're really sorry, thishas never happened before.
We're happy to send you somenew cameras.
And I was like nope, that'sfine, it's fine with us, don't
worry, we'll just keep onrolling with that.
(36:50):
They had us try to change thetime zone.
Nothing worked.
So we had an event on New Year'sEve, this past New Year's Eve,
to see if we could figure it out.
No, didn't figure it out.
But a week later Brittany cameover with her camera to take
photos because we were trying todo some PR stuff.
And she called me later thatevening and she's like OK, you
(37:12):
know weird thing she's like mycamera says New Year's Eve 1969.
And I was like no way, nah.
And she's like yeah, so shesnapped a picture of it, sent it
to me.
So then that enticed me to pullup the cameras at the house.
No more time left.
Everything was back to normalon all of the cameras and we
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have never had an issue with itsince.
Nicole Mathias (37:37):
Did you happen to look into, like any
historical files that you?
Shawnna Rigsby (37:41):
had with those dinks.
We did not find anythingassociated with those dates.
The only thing we can think ofand this is just the story of
the town we don't have a date ofit of when it happened.
We had a medium at the housethat night that said that they
had a vision of a car crashinginto a tree.
So we had learned that therewas, like this wise tale,
(38:07):
full-floor story of the townthat years and years and years
ago someone crashed into a treein the front yard of the Doss
house and we're not sure if theywere killed or whatever, but or
unalived.
I don't know if I'm allowed tosay that on here You're fine.
But so then the tree was cutdown, but it was still left with
(38:33):
, you know, a fairly decent, youknow stump there and all of the
town called it the blood stump.
Wow, that was the only thingthat we could think of.
That might possibly berelatable, but you never know,
we're hoping eventually, someday.
Nicole Mathias (38:51):
well, I wouldn't you'd yeah call it a blood
stump if somebody yeah left thatalive, you know?
Shawnna Rigsby (38:58):
oh yeah, that's usually how better our age that
we've talked to remember it asthe bloodstone.
Nicole Mathias (39:04):
Right, yeah, well, and if it was New Year's
Eve I mean drinking typicallygoes along with that I mean that
could.
Logan Mathias (39:12):
But you know what I mean.
Nicole Mathias (39:14):
It would make more sense.
Logan Mathias (39:15):
Yeah, it would.
Yeah, ooh, I'm like Speculationat this point, but yeah, no
idea, I'm the researcher of ourteam and now I'm like really
intrigued, but like 30 emails,um, that's wild though, because
you know my background is uhtechnology, so I know for a fact
(39:37):
you can't really manipulatethat, especially if it's if it's
being synced to the cloud.
It's gonna pull the, it's gonnapull the time, whatever it
syncs to and two to nine mindson separate.
Nicole Mathias (39:49):
That's crazy, especially a camera, I mean like
a actual camera.
That's crazy.
It was wild.
Yeah, that is really wild.
That's the first I've everheard something like that, like
that either people get like intheir evidence.
Shawnna Rigsby (40:01):
They get time loop all the time or they have
issues with their cell phones,or I mean obviously a lot of
locations.
Your equipment dies quickly.
But yeah, the biggest thing,like the first couple weeks we
were going over there, everytime I left that location my
phone went into SOS mode Everysingle time.
But it doesn't anymore.
It's just weird.
(40:22):
Yeah, sarah didn't even existthat whole day while she was
there Weird.
Logan Mathias (40:28):
Right.
Well, it kind of lends into thepossibility there's a rabbit
hole we can go down here, butit's called time slips, and
there's some people in theparanormal field that feel like
some of the paranormal activitythat we're experiencing isn't
exactly ghostly per se.
It's more like an intrusion ofeither us on their time or vice
(40:53):
versa.
So it kind of makes me thinkabout that a little bit.
Nicole Mathias (40:58):
I thought the exact same thing yeah.
Logan Mathias (40:59):
I'd be interesting to talk to Mike
about that.
That's so cool.
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, II, in the years that we've done
this, I've never really curveddown.
Shawnna Rigsby (41:09):
So yeah, definitely in 15 years.
That was first for me too.
I was like this just, you know,you try to make sense of it,
but then you just can't.
And then you're like, well,what now?
What?
Nicole Mathias (41:20):
now Right, so cool.
It's like walking into theBermuda Triangle no right and
walking back out.
Seriously.
Logan Mathias (41:27):
Oh shit, People still want to go there to visit
it.
Shawnna Rigsby (41:31):
How crazy is that.
Logan Mathias (41:32):
How in the hell do you put that in a disclaimer
or something Like?
By the way, you may slip intoanother time, Should that?
Nicole Mathias (41:39):
happen.
Logan Mathias (41:43):
The Dawes house is not responsible for any time
slips.
That's so cool.
So what's coming in the future?
I know that things have kind ofjust started out.
How do you see it kind of goingand where do you want it to go?
Shawnna Rigsby (42:01):
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm doing this like I said formy mom.
I'm 100% content with whereit's at.
We are going to have a festival.
You know, we had an idea likeokay, because my mom was very
much about community andbringing people together to have
fun and help one another andsupport one another.
(42:22):
She was so huge on that.
Um.
So we're like, okay, this isthe nice little town, they have
a big community center.
Let's just have like a littlevending festival, um, to bring
the community together and, youknow, hopefully get this little
town on board with what we'retrying to do and that it's not
just all about spooky, scarystuff.
That's not our biggest mission.
(42:42):
Biggest mission here, um, it'sjust so happened to be what my
mom loved, um, but she alsoloved this aspect of life too.
Um, so we started creating anevent, a festival.
Um, we called it the creepyreal festival and it was.
It was supposed to be aboutthis big and it's about this big
.
Now, oh, wow, um, we have,we're up.
(43:05):
We have over 40 vendors alreadysigned up.
We have an incredible lineup ofpeople.
My mother knew a lot ofwonderful, wonderful people and,
like everybody just wantedwants to come to be in support
of that and show us theirsupport for her.
And so you know, a lot of ourlineup is just that People that
(43:26):
she knew and who respected herand she respected them.
So, like we have.
Santiago Cirillo knew my momvery well from the Walking Dead.
He's going to be coming out.
Ernie Atwell, trying to thinkman, I'm putting myself on the
spot here, let me see who else.
Larissa Rex with the HauntedMafia they're going to be coming
(43:49):
out.
Paranormal Theory is going tobe coming out.
We just got word and thishasn't even been announced yet.
So you guys are the first toknow.
I'm not sure if you're familiarwith who the Blue Boaty is.
If you don't know who she is,definitely check her out.
She's going to come.
She has huge platform offollowers, huge on the interweb.
(44:12):
She has a huge following.
She's an amazing woman.
And then, I'm not sure, heatherMatarazzo.
I'm not sure if you know whoshe is.
She played Lily on the PrincessDiary.
She had a role in Scream andHostel and she recently just did
a string of episodes for thenewest show Wednesday.
She's going to be joining ustoo.
(44:33):
I haven't announced those lasttwo yet, so you guys got the
first sneak peek of that.
That's awesome.
So yeah, amazing, amazingpeople.
It's going to be an awesome day.
We're so super excited.
Like again, we're just trying tojust do a nice little bit deed
and it's kind of exploded andwe're super excited.
Logan Mathias (44:53):
But here's the deal.
Shawnna Rigsby (44:53):
What's that Shauna?
Logan Mathias (44:55):
When you're a genuine person and when you're
just, when people know you'rejust kind of trying to have a
good time and do all that it'sgoing to to make people want to
come.
Yeah, I agree, I think that'sgreat.
I'd say, let it blow up.
Shawnna Rigsby (45:08):
I mean yeah maybe not meant to be.
It will be like my mom alwayspressed everything is in divine
order.
She always, always, always saidthat everybody comes into your
life.
You know some people are like,oh, I don't believe in that.
Everything happens for a reason.
Well, I 100% do I do you know.
Some people are like, oh, Idon't believe in that.
Everything happens for a reason.
Well, I 100% do, I do.
You know, even though you havethe ability to choose your path,
(45:29):
I personally believe divineorder already knew what your
choice was going to be, so yourstory has already been written
for you.
My mom was really big on thatand instilled that in me and
again to each is their own.
I'm not saying everybody has tobelieve that, but that's just
where my foundational beliefsare.
And everybody that comes intoour lives and it's just, it's
(45:53):
been amazing.
So if you go like I said at thebeginning of all of this, if
you go into something with true,pure intentions and you stay
steadfast in that, you keep yourfeet planted and you don't let
anything get in the way of whatit is you're truly setting out
to do in a positive way, withkindness and love and support of
one another.
The sky's the limit.
Logan Mathias (46:15):
Beautifully said.
Yes, agreed.
Beautifully said.
Well, sean, I know that ouraudience is going to want to
know kind of what you got goingon, how to get a hold of you and
maybe more information aboutCreep it Real.
Which I finally said withoutmessing that up.
Trust me, I tried it before westarted and you had you on and I
just completely I was likedon't mess it up.
Shawnna Rigsby (46:35):
That's all the time.
Everybody's always like keep itreal.
You're keeping it real.
I'm like, yep, that's whatwe're doing.
It's a cool name.
It is indeed, so yeah yeah,tell our audience what you got
going on, yeah, so, um, you canfind the doss house on facebook.
We have a tiktok also withunique paranormal 1.5.
We're on all platforms umfacebook, tiktok, instagram.
(46:59):
Uh, we're trying to start ayoutube channel.
I'm not not techie.
My wife's trying to learn howto be techie, that's just not
our thing.
You saw me in the beginning ofthis trying to turn my volume up
on this new laptop.
I just don't.
It's not my thing.
We do have a website underconstruction.
There is a lot of informationthere already.
(47:20):
It's the Doss House, dash PA.
Actually, I think it's the DossHouse of Loretto, dash PA dot
com.
You can check us out there.
If you want to book, the bestway to do that is to hit us up
on Facebook.
Shoot me a messenger or anemail at the Doss House.
278 at gmail dot com.
Those are your top two, so yeah.
Nicole Mathias (47:41):
That's right.
We need to take a trip up there, because I'm very intrigued by
this place you may have us thereat some point hey, I'll tell
you we got a lot of cool placesto investigate within about 20
minutes of us.
Shawnna Rigsby (47:58):
I love that whole area you have the Dawes
house, you have the Old StoneJail in Evansburg, you have the
Liberty Theater Jail inEvansburg, you have the Liberty
Theater in Nanty Glow and thenyou have the Crescent Sanatorium
10 minutes away.
So we tell people who are fromfar away, like if you are that
type of paranormal and you wantto just make a couple day trip
(48:18):
out of it, we got four awesomeplaces to close by.
Nicole Mathias (48:21):
Take.
We got four awesome places topost by Take.
A week Sold For you guys.
It'd take a little bit longer.
You're really far but, yeah,yeah, we are.
Logan Mathias (48:29):
Well, Shauna, thanks again for coming on.
That was great.
Shawnna Rigsby (48:32):
Thank you for having me.
Logan Mathias (48:33):
Yeah, and we'll get all that out and hope to
have you back on soon.
Shawnna Rigsby (48:38):
Of course anytime.
Logan Mathias (48:39):
All right, thanks for coming on, and we'll talk
to you soon anytime, all right,thanks for uh coming on and
we'll talk to you soon.
Thanks, hey, shauna.
Thanks for coming on.
Yeah, thank you so much.
She's cool.
I really do want to havedanielle on.
That'd be cool too yeah youknow I need to talk to both.
I talked to both of thembecause I'm really I'm always
curious about that.
Again, we talked about thedynamic, yeah, and it's just I
find that interesting,especially kind of feeling like
(49:02):
it's a little close to home.
Nicole Mathias (49:03):
Yeah.
Logan Mathias (49:04):
Agreed, I think so.
But yeah, you know, you got totell us what you guys think.
So often you know in theparanormal field, kind of like
what I said, we have to alwayshave these roles and everybody's
got to do this and I'm the techperson and all that stuff, and
you forget to have fun.
Nicole Mathias (49:24):
Well, sometimes you just naturally fall into
that.
Logan Mathias (49:26):
True.
Nicole Mathias (49:27):
You are more that person.
You like all the gadgets andall to do that stuff and I like
more of the feeling that I getand being in the quiet and
knowing the history of the placeand trying to make a connection
with who I think might be there.
So I think people justnaturally, what they're
naturally attuned to fall, kindof fall into it naturally.
But yeah, some groups likeforget to, yeah, you know, just
(49:52):
go with the flow, right, go withthe flow and are very strategic
.
Logan Mathias (49:58):
Apparently, I just feel my gadgets Stop.
But no, this should be a lot offun, guys, and if you're in the
area you should check that out.
That looks like a lot of fun.
You know, it sounds like the.
The whole premise behind whatthey do is is just to have a
really good time, have thatfamily oriented type.
Nicole Mathias (50:17):
You know situation I love the fact, yeah,
the whole setup of it.
Yeah, to honor her mother.
Oh yeah, absolutely beautiful.
And you know, that's the thingis, the majority of us get into
this because of some experience.
We've had someone we've lost,not understanding what happens.
Yeah, you know, when we die,and I think a lot of it's like
(50:41):
are they okay?
Yeah, you know that love, itcomes from that love.
We want to know that they're OKand we want to honor them and I
think that's a beautiful waythat they're doing this.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm, I'm superintrigued by this place.
Logan Mathias (50:57):
Yeah, I am.
Nicole Mathias (50:57):
This whole loss of time.
Logan Mathias (51:00):
Yeah, that's Mike Rick Secker, we will be
reaching out, but yeah, I meanever since we talked to him.
Now, like that always in theback of my mind is when I hear
this stuff, I'm like it makessense For sure, without a doubt,
of all the other things thatwe've talked about and seen in
the past, with differentexperiences, there could not be
(51:22):
a more clear-cut experience oftime slip, in my opinion, than
that.
Nicole Mathias (51:28):
Well, he talked to us about the Conjuring house,
you know like, and your parenthad that experience and I think
it was her mother that saw thelady and it was a time they were
pretty sure it was a time slip.
So that, I mean, is that like aportal in the home home?
I'd be interested to see whatall the mediums had to say.
(51:48):
Yeah, in this house.
Yeah, they think that becausethis is overused, I think a lot
of the time in these places like, oh, there's a portal, there's
a portal, there's a portal.
You hear it all the time and itbecomes one of these things
that people are, you know, arelike, oh, they don't even listen
to it anymore because it'salways the thing that's said.
But in this case, yeah, it verywell could be there's a good
(52:10):
potential of it, for sure.
Because of the time.
I mean.
The watch acted like she wasn'teven there.
How do you explain that?
Logan Mathias (52:19):
You got to go there.
Mediums, if you're in the area,go report back I don't know why
I just gave them all adirective.
Nicole Mathias (52:30):
Yeah, I want to go check this place out.
It's definitely one of the.
I'm super intrigued by this.
This is going to be cool.
I want to figure it out.
Logan Mathias (52:37):
Guys, tell us what you think.
Comments anything you want.
Nicole Mathias (52:43):
If you want to be on the show, info at
Generation X Paranormal yeah andcontact Shauna and Danielle at
the DOS house.
278 at gmailcom.
Logan Mathias (52:49):
For sure.
Nicole Mathias (52:50):
Or go to Facebook.
She said that's the better way.
So Unique Paranormal 1.5.
That's how you find them.
Logan Mathias (52:56):
Other than that, guys, pleasure having you and
we'll see you next week.
See you next week.
First of all, the Doss house came to be
because, again, this was anotherextension of my mom and to do
something in my mother's honor.
She always wanted to own anAirbnb.
Well, you know, mom, like wejust didn't have those kind of
funds lined up at the moment.
So, because my mom always hadthat dream, my wife was on a
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mission, like she was searchinghigh and low and like trying to
find any place cool that wasrelatively close to home so it'd
be easier for us to manage.
Logan Mathias (00:33):
Thank you, Well, hey everybody, welcome back.
(01:22):
Hey everybody, I'm Logan andI'm Nicole and we are Generation
X Paranormal.
Nicole Mathias (01:27):
Yes, we are.
Logan Mathias (01:30):
Yeah, guys, welcome back Great show.
Got something really cool linedup.
I don't know when this iscoming out, but right now it is.
I don't know.
It's 54 outside and a couple ofdays ago it was 80 almost, and
I'm really sick of this.
Nicole Mathias (01:47):
We're in that part of spring in the Midwest
where it bounces roller coasterride.
Logan Mathias (01:53):
That's ridiculous .
Nicole Mathias (01:54):
In the middle of tornadoes.
Yeah, nadirs.
Logan Mathias (01:57):
Which, by the way , living in the Midwest is just
so much fun to worry about that,Especially where we live.
They never really I don't wantto say that, but typically they
come late at night or in themiddle of the night, so you know
when you're half asleep and youthink the paranormal is scary,
I'll take a ghost any day, anyday.
Anyway, I digress.
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So today we have on ShaunaRigsby and, yeah, this is
exciting.
What can you tell us aboutShauna?
Nicole Mathias (02:31):
So Shauna, shana Rigsby and yeah, this is
exciting.
What can you tell us aboutShana?
So Shana Rigsby, she's, youknow, in this with her wife
Danielle.
She's the owner and founder ofthe Doss House of Loretto and
Unique Paranormal 1.5.
Yeah, yeah, so we're going toget kind of into that, okay.
Logan Mathias (02:39):
That sounds great , we're talking to her yeah.
Let's talk to Shana.
Well, hey, shana, welcome toGeneration X Paranormal.
Thank you.
Yeah, we're excited to have youfor a couple of reasons.
One, and we'll get to thelocation here shortly, but you
got a really cool history withthe team that you investigate
with, which we definitely wantto get to, because I think
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Nicole and I found that prettytouching and heartwarming.
It was pretty cool.
But before we jump into that,we should kind of start with
what brought you here, tell us alittle bit about yourself and
kind of what got you to thispoint.
Shawnna Rigsby (03:13):
Basically probably about 15 years ago.
You know I was that kid that alot of people start off as a
skeptic and you know, my mom wasso into the paranormal field
and she was so excited about itand tell us all these crazy
stories and I was like, yeah,you're just full crap, like
whatever you know.
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So, uh, she happened to likedrag me along, do a couple of
things and, um, in the midst ofall that, like just certain
things happened that I was like,hey, maybe there's something
happening here, and you know, Ijust go sporadically.
And then she started draggingme along to the Gettysburg
Battlefield Bash where I metmore very interesting, wonderful
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people.
I was more intrigued about thepurpose behind the event more
than I was paranormal side,because at that point I was
still like maybe they stillthink about crap, mom, you know.
So go in and shopping andbuying all the cool stuff.
That was kind of my gig withher and it was something that we
could just do together.
We lived in several hours apartfrom each other at that time,
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so it was just something thatbrought us together to hang out
and do stuff.
So that's what initially got meinto the paranormal field.
Logan Mathias (04:31):
Yeah, yeah, and it's funny because my I guess my
father kind of got me started.
We've all been throughdifferent experiences and
Nicole's got hers and I'vedefinitely got mine.
But it's funny how our parentsusually kind of dictate the flow
of these things.
My dad absolutely was a big,big believer and I think I was
(04:56):
with you.
I was kind of like, Dad, Ithink you're kind of bullshit,
but we'd go some places andyou'd be like oh, this is really
cool.
And we were in Arizona andthere's a couple of places out
there that, especially in Tucson, that we'd go to and you'd get
the feels and I rememberthinking to myself yeah, I don't
know.
Of course, this was many, manyyears later.
I had my own, you know my ownexperience, so but it's
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interesting how some of us kindof get started, yeah, agreed,
kind of, I guess, really kind ofdovetailing off that let's talk
a little bit about your mom andkind of the group that she
started and absolutely whereit's at now.
Shawnna Rigsby (05:33):
Yeah, so my mom started this.
It's kind of hard for me topinpoint the exact time.
It was about 10 or 12 years ago.
She was actually living inWestchester, her husband was a
professor out there and I wasliving in St Mary's and she had
always wanted to be part of aparanormal group.
She had always had abilitiesand just trying to find that
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niche or the right people wasvery hard and I think still is
for a lot of people.
They're interested in it.
They just don't know where toturn or who to ask without
people thinking they'reabsolutely nuts.
So basically she just by chanceran into this wonderful woman I
believe she was at like ahistory type museum and clicked
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with this woman who hadcurrently had her own paranormal
group and my mom startedjoining her and going on some
adventures with her.
And then later, of course, mymom, her husband, traveled a lot
because he was a professor, sohe took another job in another
state and when she moved thereshe created her own group and
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she named it Unique ParanormalOne and she ran that for a few
years and we'd travel up there,she'd host events, um, hooked up
with quite a few groups thatare um associated with the bash,
met a lot of great people there.
Um, so, yeah, just slowlystarted to grow her own group in
her own way and, um, let it lether team.
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The way she saw fit inintegrity and respect for spirit
Definitely grew a lot ofrespect for my mom watching her
do things like that.
She was just always so kind andalways there for everybody and
just her attitude towards theparanormal itself.
With the amount of respect andthe way that she did things, I
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think, kind of pulled me in alittle bit more.
And seeing her do readings forpeople that I knew she had no
idea who they were, that is whatactually sucked me in 100%.
So, yeah, she had her groupUnique Paranormal One In about
July of 2023, she had been sick,battling some issues with a leg
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of hers for a while.
Doctor after doctor, specialistafter specialist never found
anything.
And it was in July of 2023, shehad been scheduled for a
surgery because she was havingso much trouble with her left
leg and it was during thissurgery that they had found a
lesion on her outer thigh, onher bones, that was then
(08:10):
determined that she had stagefour terminal bone cancer.
She made it about seven moreweeks.
So it was very quick, very fast, very traumatic for all of us
and September 2023, she passedaway.
So in the moment of all of that, you know whirlwind, me and my
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wife Danielle took care of herfor those last seven weeks.
I basically lived with her,popping back home every once in
a blue moon to check on my son,who's an adult.
But checking in on those, thosegrown adults, um trust me, you
know so, once she passed away,and it didn't really hit me till
recently, that doing all ofthese things has become my grief
(08:55):
journey.
So it just in the moments of,you know, grieving on my own, I
decided, um, that I was going tocontinue my mother's paranormal
group and we me and my wifehave named, renamed the group,
unique Paranormal 1.5 andsymbolizing basically that we
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could at least be half of whatmy mother was in this field.
So, yeah, that's how the groupstarted and we started doing
things together with.
Our group basically started offwith anybody who was close to
my mom her best friend Cheryl,my best friend Beth, who was
like a daughter to my mom.
We started off there and justopened it up to the community.
(09:38):
Anybody anywhere, whoeverwanted to join us to go have fun
and you know, and hunt forspooky ghosts.
People were allowed and we'vemet a lot of amazing people.
We've gathered some reallygreat team members through that
and basically our mission isjust to have fun, be respectful.
Anybody at any time is allowedto join us and that's what we do
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.
Nicole Mathias (10:02):
That's super cool.
Logan Mathias (10:03):
That's a beautiful beginning, yeah, and
you hear a lot like everybody ona team has to have a tech
person or like a medium.
I mean, there's always likethese roles that you have to
fill and I think sometimes youforget that you're really just
kind of there to enjoy whatyou're doing and you get kind of
lost in the weeds of all thesedifferent roles and who's in
(10:26):
charge or anyway any of thatstuff, and uh, you tend to
forget that, first of all, ifyou want to deal with the
paranormal and you want toinvestigate the paranormal,
they're really not going torespect your roles, no matter
who could care less.
And uh, you know, it's just yougot to remember that the whole
point of it is, like you said,to have some fun, which is
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that's great.
You know, I lost my dad and wesay all the time or at least I
do that if he was still aroundhe'd probably be our third cast
member because you know he wasjust so into this.
So, yeah, it's great, we're sohappy to know that you guys are
doing that, you know, and and,like you said, with you and your
wife kind of doing everythingsort of as like that almost that
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family kind of feeling, I wouldthink that kind of helps with
investigation too, because youknow we've investigated with a
lot of different types.
You know we definitely have hadsome investigations with things
that are much more stringent.
And, yes, there's a leader andan instructor, which is fine.
There's nothing wrong with it,it's just that's the way they do
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it.
And then you go and youinvestigate with people who have
zero structure and you findsometimes that it is a different
experience.
Shawnna Rigsby (11:42):
It's a blessing and a curse at the same time.
Yes, so you know, like some ofour group members I've known for
years and years and years andit's like hanging out with your
sister, like sometimes you wantto choke her, you know.
Or you know a chatty Kathy andCheryl, you know, just can't be
quiet sometimes.
But like I said, at the end ofthe day it's all in love and
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good fun and you know that'swhat it's all about for us.
Logan Mathias (12:08):
okay, yeah, that's awesome.
So with your group and againwe're gonna go ahead and get
into the dawes house here injust a minute.
But, um, how close are you guysto gettysburg?
Um about two hours okay, so nottoo far.
Are you like towards york orthe other way?
Other way, we're more towardsthe pittsburgh side okay, yeah,
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I've been in that area a fewtimes so I kind of had an idea
where this was.
So I just was, I was justcurious um, yeah, definitely a
bucket lister for sure thatplace.
Now we haven't gone as a, as youknow.
Obviously my wife and I were ateam, but, um, I've been there a
couple of well, at least onetime.
And then I went to Antietam,which is also pretty crazy.
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But walking around Gettysburgis like if you don't get the
feels there and you don't,you're into the paranormal.
You might want to rethink somethings.
Shawnna Rigsby (13:04):
It's a whole different level for people,
though.
Logan Mathias (13:07):
Absolutely yeah, so that's cool.
Nicole Mathias (13:10):
Still never been .
Logan Mathias (13:11):
Yeah, we're going .
We've been to the.
Nicole Mathias (13:13):
East Coast.
Logan Mathias (13:14):
I know.
Nicole Mathias (13:15):
I haven't been up that way, we'll make it
before we go there sometime.
Logan Mathias (13:20):
Okay, so the Dawes house Um, so I know I've
got a little bit of the historyfrom some of the other
paranormal investigators thathave put stuff online and kind
of, you know, with thebackground that you have on
Facebook, can you kind of giveus your version and what you
know about the house and kind of?
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I really just kind of startthere.
What's some of the historybehind it?
Shawnna Rigsby (13:45):
For sure, history for sure.
So, first of all, the Dosshouse um came to be because,
again, this was anotherextension of my mom and to do
something in my mother's honor,um, she always wanted to own an
Airbnb.
Well, you know, mom, like wejust didn't have those kind of
funds lined up at the moment.
So, um, because my mom alwayshad that dream, my wife was on a
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mission, like she was searchinghigh and low and like trying to
find any place full that wasrelatively close to home, so
it'd be easier for us to manage.
And we, honestly, we talk aboutall the time we can't even
remember the exact point how theDoss house fell in our lap.
We can't even remember theexact point how the Doss house
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fell in our lap.
We just knew we were drivingthrough this little town, which
is not far.
Because that's what we do.
We're like, ok, we're goingadventuring today, let's go see
what we can find Vacantproperties.
You know that's where we wereat Vacant properties, get a hold
of the landowner, see if wecould get in there.
And we saw this place and shehad known about it for years but
just it just didn't come to theforefront of her mind.
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So we were driving through thistown and I saw this house and I
was like whoa, and she's like,oh my gosh, like I forgot about
this place.
And she knew just who tocontact to get you know, in
contact with the owner, and wedid.
She agreed to meet us over thereand contacted the owner, and we
did she agreed to meet us overthere, um, and when I tell you
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the field, I'm telling you it'sit's definitely, uh, a unique
place for sure, um, but you knowthe intention behind it we want
to have a haunted location inhonor of my mom.
So we need to see if it'sactually haunted right.
So we're very hesitant becausethis house is in the middle of a
very catholic town.
You have a basilica across thestreet, you have schwab estates
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with the sunken gardens ofmontecito at the other end, um,
so we're like we start to tellthis the owner of the property
what our intentions are and, toour surprise, she was like that
sounds awesome.
So we were like thank goodnessso she agreed to let us in there
prior um to check it out andinvestigate it.
(15:58):
Before you know, we decided tomake any type of offer on it and
the first time that we went inthere, I will just say, uh, the
night started off with a bang.
Literally, it was a couple ofus me, my wife, my daughter went
with us and two of our closestfriends her husband non-believer
(16:19):
, 100% non-believer, and all Iwill tell you is, after this
night, his opinion changed.
Nicole Mathias (16:28):
I love to watch that transition transition.
Shawnna Rigsby (16:30):
Oh man, it was something.
I'll tell you what.
Um.
So yeah, that's, you know.
A couple of days later, wetalked to the owner again.
I made her an offer.
She was very willing to be ridof this property.
It was kind of just like a painin her, but she didn't want to
deal with it anymore.
Um, and here we are.
Once we got the keys and we gotin there, we got to work right
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away, because obviously my mom'smost favorite holiday was
Halloween, so our goal was toopen it to the public on
Halloween, and that's exactlywhat we did, and it's been crazy
, crazy whirlwind ever since.
Sure.
Logan Mathias (17:06):
That's really cool.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's interesting when youfind it.
Now we know, we know a fewpeople that have their own
properties.
Of course we've met and talkedand actually investigated with
Stephanie O'Reilly at theMcIntyre Villa.
We've had a few other peoplelike, I think, jill Shelley on,
and you know some other folkswho have purchased Shelly on,
(17:27):
and you know some other folkswho have purchased a haunted
home or a haunted uh place andthe answer is yes, I would buy
one.
But it is interesting becausewhen you buy something with the
knowledge of knowing that you'returning it into potentially a
paranormal hots or it's alreadya hotspot, but you know a
paranormal attraction per se,you know you always think to
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yourself OK, what are, what aresome of the guidelines?
How do I want to go about this?
It must be pretty daunting tohave all that going on.
Plus, oh yeah, it happens to behaunted.
Shawnna Rigsby (18:01):
So, yeah, definitely, definitely, was in
honor of my mom.
So if we made you know, if wemade enough money to sustain it,
great.
If we didn't, ok cool.
Our team has an awesome placeto investigate and expand our
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abilities and learn more things.
So I think that was a jumpstartfor us to push us in the right
direction, and still is today,by us staying steadfast in our
beliefs and the mission behindthis and what we're trying to do
and bring communities togetherand helping people the way that
my mother always did.
So I think, when you putsomething in front of yourself
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and you stay true to theoriginal meaning of that, there
is no other room but to besuccessful.
Logan Mathias (18:52):
Absolutely.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense,Not to mention the fact that
you know it's all kind of afamily.
Now, talking about family withyour wife Danielle, is she more
a believer than a skeptic?
Because I think you mentionedyou were much more skeptical and
I'm always curious about thatdynamic.
Because of us, I'm probably themore skeptical, I'm more the
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believer.
So I'm always curious about howthat goes.
Shawnna Rigsby (19:19):
So Danielle started off.
She works in the medical field,she works in the operating room
, so she's very much scientificbrain.
There was always a reason or alogical explanation for
everything when we first met.
From the moment she met mymother, things changed.
It's going different places andher actually being in the
(19:45):
position for things to happen toher that she literally could
not logically explain, andrecently, encompassing the fact
that Daniel actually does havevery strong abilities that she
never realized she had beforebecause her mind just wasn't
open to it.
I think that plays a big part ofit too.
The way you were raised, thingsyou were taught as a child very
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much depicts how your thoughtprocess works.
So if you were constantly toldthat this is wrong and you
shouldn't be doing this and thisisn't real, then that's what
you believe Until you know theseother options are opened up for
you and you do start openingyourself up to the possibility
that it could be real, and thenit just flows in like somebody
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opened blood gates and that'sexactly what's happened to her
and she now is a million percenta believer that's awesome.
Nicole Mathias (20:41):
I love to hear that, yeah, yeah well, and it's
funny because it's interestingbecause you're very much like
that I.
I am.
Logan Mathias (20:49):
I'm also not to make it about me, but you know
I'm very skeptical, but yet Ialso have whatever the heck it
is that I have going on with meas far as just sensing things
and being able to call somethings out.
It's just interesting.
And what's also interesting isthat she's in the medical field
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and that's what I was in when Iwas in the military.
I was a medic, so I find thatincredibly interesting.
Nicole Mathias (21:17):
I was listening to you talk about it and I'm
like that's so fun.
Shawnna Rigsby (21:21):
Somebody should definitely take a survey
somewhere.
I know right.
Left and right, like what'severybody's backgrounds.
Where were you and where areyou?
Nicole Mathias (21:29):
Exactly.
Logan Mathias (21:31):
Exactly Okay.
So now you've got this propertyand you're ready to get
everybody in there and startinvestigating.
First off, your team.
What did you guys seem like?
What's some of the experiencesthat you guys have had there?
What did?
Shawnna Rigsby (21:48):
you guys seem like.
What is what some of theexperiences that you guys have
had there?
Well, for the first while wewere the only ones obviously in
there doing anything, even justcleaning the place out this
place was completely hoarded out.
It was built in 18.
The original part of thestructure was built in 1810.
The house had sat vacant foralmost two years.
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Not really sure 100% of thebackstory from the last family
that was there, but thislocation was completely hoarded
out so it took us a while toclean that out.
So in the midst of all of that,so many things, so many noises,
disembodied voices, shadowfigures that we all would see
(22:32):
being growled at in certainspots, sounds of kids you could
hear over in the barbershop orin the big like there was just
so many unexplained things orlike, oh, whose stomach was that
?
Or oh, did somebody say.
You know you always are doublequestioning and thinking.
So by the time all of that wasdone and we had everything
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cleaned out, you know we triedto keep 80% of what was in the
house original to the house.
That was very important to us,and only bringing in things that
were necessary, like a bed anda couch, stuff like that.
So, like I said, when you go inthere, a lot of it is
pertainable to the house, thelocation, the town.
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But the weirdest thing was soyou have the living room and
upstairs.
That was the originalestablishment built in 1810.
Then later in the 1800s, therewas a dining room built onto the
back.
Early 1900s, then there was akitchen put on and mid-1900s was
when the barber shop was addedto the property.
Now, originally the barber shopwas not, it was its own entity,
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literally about six feet fromthe side of the house, and
that's where the barber had hisbusiness.
That's where the barber had hisbusiness.
We later found out that whenhis wife felt ill, he then
connected the two parcelstogether with a ramp and moved
her over there for the end ofher life.
So now you know, connectingeverything together.
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We did find out some interestingfacts about the place.
We discovered just through ourinvestigation our very first
night there.
We had a lot of informationcoming through.
Later did some fact checking100% true of a story of a woman
but all the names we weregetting the occurrences that had
happened to her.
We actually did fact check andfind an article that was
(24:29):
relatable to that.
We have found that there hasbeen obviously the barber, there
was a doctor there, there was adentist there and an undertaker
there.
We have had a lot of activityfrom Father Prince Galitzen, who
was the priest at the basilicaacross the street.
We have had some activity withhim.
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We're starting to believe wehaven't found the records of
this yet but that this was theoriginal structure built in this
town.
So Prince Galitsin founded thistown in 1799.
Frank, the historian who livedacross the road, told us that
the properties were not deededfor homes until about 1816 to
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1890.
Well, the first piece ofpaperwork for this location was
1810.
So we're leaning to believethat this was constructed and it
was an original log built outof logs.
You can see that throughout thebasement and the structure and
the posts and stuff.
So we believe this was theoriginal meeting house of the
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town as they were trying tobuild and establish.
Frank also told us that foryears and years he tried to deem
this property a historical siteand was unable to because there
were so many missing documentsbetween 1799 and 1810.
And then again from 1810 to1843, where then it was then
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deeded an actual property to belived in and as a home.
So because there was thoseyears of unmarked actual
paperwork, paper trail, he wasnot able to deem it a historical
site.
So we're still digging, we'restill trying.
In the beginning it was so hardto find anything until Frank
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came over and startedchit-chatting with us and told
us where to look.
He had a whole bunch ofinformation because he worked on
it for years and he's reallycool about it.
Anything, anytime anythingcomes up, we can always ask him.
And we did get lucky and get ateam member who we met at a
festival and she happened to seemy mom's picture on our table
(26:43):
as Unique Paranormal One and itjust intrigued her to walk over.
And she is now very much partof our team and she is basically
our history guru.
She goes in our fact checker,she checks all the documents,
digs into the libraries, allthese sites, and so when
something pops up, Brittany'sthe gal.
If there's a linked documentout there somewhere, she's going
(27:05):
to find it.
So, that's how we've been ableto kind of start linking the
pieces together and say, yes,this is factual to the house.
No, this, maybe, this is, maybeit isn't, but we don't have any
way to.
You know, back that up withdocuments and that's a big thing
for us too is trying to, youknow, link activity with actual
fact.
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That's a big thing for us.
Another cool fact about thisplace is because it's so new.
It's literally like peelingback an onion, like every time a
group goes in there, somebodygets something else.
We, we can fact check it.
Awesome, cool, you know.
And we just just keep goingwith that and getting all these,
um, psychic mediums coming andwalking through and giving us
(27:46):
our, their opinions of what theybelieve the place is.
That matches up with theprevious one that has gone in
there, so that's been reallycool too.
So, yeah, definitely,definitely, uh, a track that
will suck you in for sure yeahdown the rabbit.
Logan Mathias (28:05):
Yeah, we understand that, like especially
doing the research, you findsomething and then you're just
like in it forever because youit's just the little tidbits
here and there yeah, and it'sgreat that having such a I mean
you say you don't have all thehistory, which is it kind of
sucks, but you know, that's theamount of history they never go
out.
(28:25):
Yeah, it's incredible.
Uh, you know, with, especiallywith some of these older towns,
someone just didn't even keeprecord of some of that stuff
when they were first started orthey got burnt up.
Shawnna Rigsby (28:36):
That happens a lot too right, yeah, we did hear
about that too.
Yeah, yeah I know what it makesit up we have.
We have gotten a lot.
We have, yeah, you know therehas been.
So basically the the record of1810 and then it jumped to 1843.
From there on, we've basicallybeen able to find most things
relatable.
Logan Mathias (28:55):
That's so cool.
Yeah, you're very fortunate.
And it makes perfect sense forit to have been some kind of
city building, especially withthe Basilica being across the
street.
That would just make sensebecause people would probably go
worship and then they wouldmeet in that same area.
Nicole Mathias (29:13):
Think about all the energy going between a place
of worship to the main townhall, back and forth.
I mean no wonder this place isprobably supercharged.
Shawnna Rigsby (29:23):
It's insane.
It's so much fun.
Logan Mathias (29:26):
It's so cool, so okay.
So you guys have had yourdefinitely your fair share of
activity.
What have you seen?
Some of the other now youmentioned it is still fairly new
, which is awesome, but out ofthe people that have
investigated, what's some of thestuff that they've taken away
where you've gone?
Okay, I didn't expect that gone.
Shawnna Rigsby (29:51):
Okay, that I didn't expect that.
Well, I can say, um, there hasnot yet been a group in there
that hasn't gotten some sort ofactivity.
Um, whether you know, there'sobviously more quieter nights
than some.
Um, I would say, probably theevent that sticks out in my mind
the most, um would be when somepals of our local group here
they're called Dark HollowParanormal they were in there,
(30:14):
pretty large group.
So what we do when you have alarge group like that, because
the house is on the smaller side, we let them rent the house for
the weekend and they just splitinto two groups, so they were
rotating, like the guys and thegirls.
So the girls were there at thistime and they were standing at
the bottom of the steps becausethey heard something upstairs.
(30:37):
And two of them were standingat the bottom of the steps and
what they thought they heard wasa grovel or some type of voice.
Literally scared the bejesusright out of them, because
they're literally staringupstairs into darkness and
hearing this noise, they bothbolt left the stairway, light
(30:58):
comes on and they're runningthrough, screaming into the
living room.
Well, in that moment and theydidn't realize it because you
know they're being big chickensand they're running and
screaming.
The REM pod on the bed upstairsis going crazy.
So that's another cool thingthat we have in the house.
We have cameras everywhere soif something happens in that
(31:18):
moment we can go back, pull upall the different angles.
Um, just to make sure, wewanted to make sure that nobody
hit the light switch when sheran away to turn the light on.
Um, and when I was checking allof that stuff for them was when
I was like holy crap, that REMpod is going nuts.
So that was a really cool.
And when they were coming backinto the dining room they had it
(31:40):
was a piece of their equipmentsome type of nun doll or
something like that that onlygets triggered when certain I
don't really even, but in thatmoment then that doll went off
as well and they took offscreaming again.
Nicole Mathias (31:57):
So entertaining to watch.
Shawnna Rigsby (32:00):
Hysterical is there yeah, yeah, um, some other
groups that have been in there.
We recently had PunkoParanormal very unexplained
occurrence in the basement, verycreepy, creepy basement.
He was under Estes, by himselfdown there couldn't see anything
(32:22):
.
I think he was under Estes, Ithink he was under no, I think
he was under assist.
Regardless, he was blindfolded.
He had his cell phone leaningup against one of the support
posts on himself and then achair to the left of that he had
(32:42):
a REM pod sitting.
Coincidentally, if a phone isleaning up against a pole, you
would think if it's going toslide, it's going to tip over,
right, right.
So the phone was like this andit literally just pivoted and
then stood up sideways while wewere all watching the live.
We were like is somebody elsedown there?
Because literally his phone,just a nice, smooth transition,
(33:04):
just kind of just turned andthen stopped pointing away from
him and then in that moment thatthat happened, his REM pod
started going crazy.
So I then pulled up the footagebecause I'm like somebody had
it right and no, I pulled up thefootage, sent it to them.
Literally, smooth transition.
You see the phone turn, niceand smooth and just kind of rest
(33:29):
this way, and then the rum podstarted going crazy.
Yeah, there was actually anincident in the house that I was
involved in in the middle ofthe day.
I had taken two people in whohad never been there before.
They just so happened to beavailable and through the area
that day.
So I'm like, yeah, sure I'llcome meet me over there.
We're standing in the kitchenand we hear, like this,
(33:51):
scratching and then a bang overin the dining room.
So we go, we're like what thewas that?
So we go through from thekitchen over into the dining
room and as soon as we made itto the dining room there's a
crawl space Again a super creepycrawl space right above the
dining room that I keep a REMpod in, and it was going crazy.
(34:13):
So later on that evening myfriend Sarah had messaged me and
said, hey, pull up the footagefrom that time and just see what
happened.
So I did, and in that momentwe're standing in the kitchen.
You see something dark flashthrough the breezeway that goes
(34:33):
over to the dining room.
Then you hear the scratch andthe bang and then you hear the
REM pod going off.
So that was very interesting,to say the least.
She then proceeded to tell methat her smartwatch for the day
showed that she did not existfrom the time that she left her
house come to the Dots houseuntil she returned back home,
(34:53):
and that was the first time thatthat had ever happened to her.
When she got to the property,her phone would not work, which
is not uncommon.
Um, that has happened to a lotof people.
Um and the houses.
There's certain times that thecameras are stuck in a time loop
, so time loop stuff happensthere all the time.
We had two of the cameras thekitchen and the barbershop.
(35:16):
There was an incident again.
I was in the house, me and myson were doing some last minute
things before the first groupwas supposed to go in there, and
my wife was actually away atwork in Lancaster.
And she's she's like hey, whatare you doing?
I'm like I was just gettingready to leave the house, why?
She's like well, I just pulledup the cameras and I saw
somebody in the kitchen and Iwas like I'm just walking,
(35:39):
walking out the front door.
There's nobody in the kitchen.
She's like go check, I go overthere, nothing.
Obviously middle of the dayagain.
She's like okay, wait, that'snot the weirdest thing.
She's like the time and thedate on the camera says December
31st 1969.
That's, and I was like whatthat's on?
(36:01):
So in that moment I I pull upall of the other cameras and,
mind you, everything's hooked tothe internet.
So where is this date comingfrom?
Right?
right all of the other cameraswere legitimate.
New Year's Eve 1969 in thekitchen and New Year's Day 1970
(36:28):
in the barbershop, two roomsside by side of each other.
We tried calling the securitycompany, we tried resetting the
cameras, we tried changing theSD cards and the company was
like we're really sorry, thishas never happened before.
We're happy to send you somenew cameras.
And I was like nope, that'sfine, it's fine with us, don't
worry, we'll just keep onrolling with that.
(36:50):
They had us try to change thetime zone.
Nothing worked.
So we had an event on New Year'sEve, this past New Year's Eve,
to see if we could figure it out.
No, didn't figure it out.
But a week later Brittany cameover with her camera to take
photos because we were trying todo some PR stuff.
And she called me later thatevening and she's like OK, you
(37:12):
know weird thing she's like mycamera says New Year's Eve 1969.
And I was like no way, nah.
And she's like yeah, so shesnapped a picture of it, sent it
to me.
So then that enticed me to pullup the cameras at the house.
No more time left.
Everything was back to normalon all of the cameras and we
(37:34):
have never had an issue with itsince.
Nicole Mathias (37:37):
Did you happen to look into, like any
historical files that you?
Shawnna Rigsby (37:41):
had with those dinks.
We did not find anythingassociated with those dates.
The only thing we can think ofand this is just the story of
the town we don't have a date ofit of when it happened.
We had a medium at the housethat night that said that they
had a vision of a car crashinginto a tree.
So we had learned that therewas, like this wise tale,
(38:07):
full-floor story of the townthat years and years and years
ago someone crashed into a treein the front yard of the Doss
house and we're not sure if theywere killed or whatever, but or
unalived.
I don't know if I'm allowed tosay that on here You're fine.
But so then the tree was cutdown, but it was still left with
(38:33):
, you know, a fairly decent, youknow stump there and all of the
town called it the blood stump.
Wow, that was the only thingthat we could think of.
That might possibly berelatable, but you never know,
we're hoping eventually, someday.
Nicole Mathias (38:51):
well, I wouldn't you'd yeah call it a blood
stump if somebody yeah left thatalive, you know?
Shawnna Rigsby (38:58):
oh yeah, that's usually how better our age that
we've talked to remember it asthe bloodstone.
Nicole Mathias (39:04):
Right, yeah, well, and if it was New Year's
Eve I mean drinking typicallygoes along with that I mean that
could.
Logan Mathias (39:12):
But you know what I mean.
Nicole Mathias (39:14):
It would make more sense.
Logan Mathias (39:15):
Yeah, it would.
Yeah, ooh, I'm like Speculationat this point, but yeah, no
idea, I'm the researcher of ourteam and now I'm like really
intrigued, but like 30 emails,um, that's wild though, because
you know my background is uhtechnology, so I know for a fact
(39:37):
you can't really manipulatethat, especially if it's if it's
being synced to the cloud.
It's gonna pull the, it's gonnapull the time, whatever it
syncs to and two to nine mindson separate.
Nicole Mathias (39:49):
That's crazy, especially a camera, I mean like
a actual camera.
That's crazy.
It was wild.
Yeah, that is really wild.
That's the first I've everheard something like that, like
that either people get like intheir evidence.
Shawnna Rigsby (40:01):
They get time loop all the time or they have
issues with their cell phones,or I mean obviously a lot of
locations.
Your equipment dies quickly.
But yeah, the biggest thing,like the first couple weeks we
were going over there, everytime I left that location my
phone went into SOS mode Everysingle time.
But it doesn't anymore.
It's just weird.
(40:22):
Yeah, sarah didn't even existthat whole day while she was
there Weird.
Logan Mathias (40:28):
Right.
Well, it kind of lends into thepossibility there's a rabbit
hole we can go down here, butit's called time slips, and
there's some people in theparanormal field that feel like
some of the paranormal activitythat we're experiencing isn't
exactly ghostly per se.
It's more like an intrusion ofeither us on their time or vice
(40:53):
versa.
So it kind of makes me thinkabout that a little bit.
Nicole Mathias (40:58):
I thought the exact same thing yeah.
Logan Mathias (40:59):
I'd be interesting to talk to Mike
about that.
That's so cool.
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, II, in the years that we've done
this, I've never really curveddown.
Shawnna Rigsby (41:09):
So yeah, definitely in 15 years.
That was first for me too.
I was like this just, you know,you try to make sense of it,
but then you just can't.
And then you're like, well,what now?
What?
Nicole Mathias (41:20):
now Right, so cool.
It's like walking into theBermuda Triangle no right and
walking back out.
Seriously.
Logan Mathias (41:27):
Oh shit, People still want to go there to visit
it.
Shawnna Rigsby (41:31):
How crazy is that.
Logan Mathias (41:32):
How in the hell do you put that in a disclaimer
or something Like?
By the way, you may slip intoanother time, Should that?
Nicole Mathias (41:39):
happen.
Logan Mathias (41:43):
The Dawes house is not responsible for any time
slips.
That's so cool.
So what's coming in the future?
I know that things have kind ofjust started out.
How do you see it kind of goingand where do you want it to go?
Shawnna Rigsby (42:01):
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm doing this like I said formy mom.
I'm 100% content with whereit's at.
We are going to have a festival.
You know, we had an idea likeokay, because my mom was very
much about community andbringing people together to have
fun and help one another andsupport one another.
(42:22):
She was so huge on that.
Um.
So we're like, okay, this isthe nice little town, they have
a big community center.
Let's just have like a littlevending festival, um, to bring
the community together and, youknow, hopefully get this little
town on board with what we'retrying to do and that it's not
just all about spooky, scarystuff.
That's not our biggest mission.
(42:42):
Biggest mission here, um, it'sjust so happened to be what my
mom loved, um, but she alsoloved this aspect of life too.
Um, so we started creating anevent, a festival.
Um, we called it the creepyreal festival and it was.
It was supposed to be aboutthis big and it's about this big
.
Now, oh, wow, um, we have,we're up.
(43:05):
We have over 40 vendors alreadysigned up.
We have an incredible lineup ofpeople.
My mother knew a lot ofwonderful, wonderful people and,
like everybody just wantedwants to come to be in support
of that and show us theirsupport for her.
And so you know, a lot of ourlineup is just that People that
(43:26):
she knew and who respected herand she respected them.
So, like we have.
Santiago Cirillo knew my momvery well from the Walking Dead.
He's going to be coming out.
Ernie Atwell, trying to thinkman, I'm putting myself on the
spot here, let me see who else.
Larissa Rex with the HauntedMafia they're going to be coming
(43:49):
out.
Paranormal Theory is going tobe coming out.
We just got word and thishasn't even been announced yet.
So you guys are the first toknow.
I'm not sure if you're familiarwith who the Blue Boaty is.
If you don't know who she is,definitely check her out.
She's going to come.
She has huge platform offollowers, huge on the interweb.
(44:12):
She has a huge following.
She's an amazing woman.
And then, I'm not sure, heatherMatarazzo.
I'm not sure if you know whoshe is.
She played Lily on the PrincessDiary.
She had a role in Scream andHostel and she recently just did
a string of episodes for thenewest show Wednesday.
She's going to be joining ustoo.
(44:33):
I haven't announced those lasttwo yet, so you guys got the
first sneak peek of that.
That's awesome.
So yeah, amazing, amazingpeople.
It's going to be an awesome day.
We're so super excited.
Like again, we're just trying tojust do a nice little bit deed
and it's kind of exploded andwe're super excited.
Logan Mathias (44:53):
But here's the deal.
Shawnna Rigsby (44:53):
What's that Shauna?
Logan Mathias (44:55):
When you're a genuine person and when you're
just, when people know you'rejust kind of trying to have a
good time and do all that it'sgoing to to make people want to
come.
Yeah, I agree, I think that'sgreat.
I'd say, let it blow up.
Shawnna Rigsby (45:08):
I mean yeah maybe not meant to be.
It will be like my mom alwayspressed everything is in divine
order.
She always, always, always saidthat everybody comes into your
life.
You know some people are like,oh, I don't believe in that.
Everything happens for a reason.
Well, I 100% do I do you know.
Some people are like, oh, Idon't believe in that.
Everything happens for a reason.
Well, I 100% do, I do.
You know, even though you havethe ability to choose your path,
(45:29):
I personally believe divineorder already knew what your
choice was going to be, so yourstory has already been written
for you.
My mom was really big on thatand instilled that in me and
again to each is their own.
I'm not saying everybody has tobelieve that, but that's just
where my foundational beliefsare.
And everybody that comes intoour lives and it's just, it's
(45:53):
been amazing.
So if you go like I said at thebeginning of all of this, if
you go into something with true,pure intentions and you stay
steadfast in that, you keep yourfeet planted and you don't let
anything get in the way of whatit is you're truly setting out
to do in a positive way, withkindness and love and support of
one another.
The sky's the limit.
Logan Mathias (46:15):
Beautifully said.
Yes, agreed.
Beautifully said.
Well, sean, I know that ouraudience is going to want to
know kind of what you got goingon, how to get a hold of you and
maybe more information aboutCreep it Real.
Which I finally said withoutmessing that up.
Trust me, I tried it before westarted and you had you on and I
just completely I was likedon't mess it up.
Shawnna Rigsby (46:35):
That's all the time.
Everybody's always like keep itreal.
You're keeping it real.
I'm like, yep, that's whatwe're doing.
It's a cool name.
It is indeed, so yeah yeah,tell our audience what you got
going on, yeah, so, um, you canfind the doss house on facebook.
We have a tiktok also withunique paranormal 1.5.
We're on all platforms umfacebook, tiktok, instagram.
(46:59):
Uh, we're trying to start ayoutube channel.
I'm not not techie.
My wife's trying to learn howto be techie, that's just not
our thing.
You saw me in the beginning ofthis trying to turn my volume up
on this new laptop.
I just don't.
It's not my thing.
We do have a website underconstruction.
There is a lot of informationthere already.
(47:20):
It's the Doss House, dash PA.
Actually, I think it's the DossHouse of Loretto, dash PA dot
com.
You can check us out there.
If you want to book, the bestway to do that is to hit us up
on Facebook.
Shoot me a messenger or anemail at the Doss House.
278 at gmail dot com.
Those are your top two, so yeah.
Nicole Mathias (47:41):
That's right.
We need to take a trip up there, because I'm very intrigued by
this place you may have us thereat some point hey, I'll tell
you we got a lot of cool placesto investigate within about 20
minutes of us.
Shawnna Rigsby (47:58):
I love that whole area you have the Dawes
house, you have the Old StoneJail in Evansburg, you have the
Liberty Theater Jail inEvansburg, you have the Liberty
Theater in Nanty Glow and thenyou have the Crescent Sanatorium
10 minutes away.
So we tell people who are fromfar away, like if you are that
type of paranormal and you wantto just make a couple day trip
(48:18):
out of it, we got four awesomeplaces to close by.
Nicole Mathias (48:21):
Take.
We got four awesome places topost by Take.
A week Sold For you guys.
It'd take a little bit longer.
You're really far but, yeah,yeah, we are.
Logan Mathias (48:29):
Well, Shauna, thanks again for coming on.
That was great.
Shawnna Rigsby (48:32):
Thank you for having me.
Logan Mathias (48:33):
Yeah, and we'll get all that out and hope to
have you back on soon.
Shawnna Rigsby (48:38):
Of course anytime.
Logan Mathias (48:39):
All right, thanks for coming on, and we'll talk
to you soon anytime, all right,thanks for uh coming on and
we'll talk to you soon.
Thanks, hey, shauna.
Thanks for coming on.
Yeah, thank you so much.
She's cool.
I really do want to havedanielle on.
That'd be cool too yeah youknow I need to talk to both.
I talked to both of thembecause I'm really I'm always
curious about that.
Again, we talked about thedynamic, yeah, and it's just I
find that interesting,especially kind of feeling like
(49:02):
it's a little close to home.
Nicole Mathias (49:03):
Yeah.
Logan Mathias (49:04):
Agreed, I think so.
But yeah, you know, you got totell us what you guys think.
So often you know in theparanormal field, kind of like
what I said, we have to alwayshave these roles and everybody's
got to do this and I'm the techperson and all that stuff, and
you forget to have fun.
Nicole Mathias (49:24):
Well, sometimes you just naturally fall into
that.
Logan Mathias (49:26):
True.
Nicole Mathias (49:27):
You are more that person.
You like all the gadgets andall to do that stuff and I like
more of the feeling that I getand being in the quiet and
knowing the history of the placeand trying to make a connection
with who I think might be there.
So I think people justnaturally, what they're
naturally attuned to fall, kindof fall into it naturally.
But yeah, some groups likeforget to, yeah, you know, just
(49:52):
go with the flow, right, go withthe flow and are very strategic
.
Logan Mathias (49:58):
Apparently, I just feel my gadgets Stop.
But no, this should be a lot offun, guys, and if you're in the
area you should check that out.
That looks like a lot of fun.
You know, it sounds like the.
The whole premise behind whatthey do is is just to have a
really good time, have thatfamily oriented type.
Nicole Mathias (50:17):
You know situation I love the fact, yeah,
the whole setup of it.
Yeah, to honor her mother.
Oh yeah, absolutely beautiful.
And you know, that's the thingis, the majority of us get into
this because of some experience.
We've had someone we've lost,not understanding what happens.
Yeah, you know, when we die,and I think a lot of it's like
(50:41):
are they okay?
Yeah, you know that love, itcomes from that love.
We want to know that they're OKand we want to honor them and I
think that's a beautiful waythat they're doing this.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm, I'm superintrigued by this place.
Logan Mathias (50:57):
Yeah, I am.
Nicole Mathias (50:57):
This whole loss of time.
Logan Mathias (51:00):
Yeah, that's Mike Rick Secker, we will be
reaching out, but yeah, I meanever since we talked to him.
Now, like that always in theback of my mind is when I hear
this stuff, I'm like it makessense For sure, without a doubt,
of all the other things thatwe've talked about and seen in
the past, with differentexperiences, there could not be
(51:22):
a more clear-cut experience oftime slip, in my opinion, than
that.
Nicole Mathias (51:28):
Well, he talked to us about the Conjuring house,
you know like, and your parenthad that experience and I think
it was her mother that saw thelady and it was a time they were
pretty sure it was a time slip.
So that, I mean, is that like aportal in the home home?
I'd be interested to see whatall the mediums had to say.
(51:48):
Yeah, in this house.
Yeah, they think that becausethis is overused, I think a lot
of the time in these places like, oh, there's a portal, there's
a portal, there's a portal.
You hear it all the time and itbecomes one of these things
that people are, you know, arelike, oh, they don't even listen
to it anymore because it'salways the thing that's said.
But in this case, yeah, it verywell could be there's a good
(52:10):
potential of it, for sure.
Because of the time.
I mean.
The watch acted like she wasn'teven there.
How do you explain that?
Logan Mathias (52:19):
You got to go there.
Mediums, if you're in the area,go report back I don't know why
I just gave them all adirective.
Nicole Mathias (52:30):
Yeah, I want to go check this place out.
It's definitely one of the.
I'm super intrigued by this.
This is going to be cool.
I want to figure it out.
Logan Mathias (52:37):
Guys, tell us what you think.
Comments anything you want.
Nicole Mathias (52:43):
If you want to be on the show, info at
Generation X Paranormal yeah andcontact Shauna and Danielle at
the DOS house.
278 at gmailcom.
Logan Mathias (52:49):
For sure.
Nicole Mathias (52:50):
Or go to Facebook.
She said that's the better way.
So Unique Paranormal 1.5.
That's how you find them.
Logan Mathias (52:56):
Other than that, guys, pleasure having you and
we'll see you next week.
See you next week.
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