March 23, 2022 • 41 mins
You've heard GG's take on Lala Kent and Randall Emmett's relationship. This week, GG sits down with Randall for an exclusive interview. He digs deep into everything surrounding Lala, fatherhood, and where everything stands now.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Genuinely Gigi. For
the first time ever, Genuinely Gig is going to do
an in person, one on one exclusive interview with none
other than Randall Emmett. He's going to be here because
he's a good friend of mine. He trusts me, and
he knows that we're just going to really show the
world who the real Randall Emmett is. The world has
heard so many rumors about Randall Emmett and La Law's
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breakup allegations, but we want to get a little insider
on Randall and have him talk to you about his
children and how he is as a father at home.
He's a big girl dad and he loves one on
one time with his kids. While Lala has been actively
verbal in the press, Randall has stayed quiet and for
the first time, we're going to find out why. You
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know her from Shaw's of Sunset, you know she doesn't
hold back.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Are you worried about that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I mean because this day and age, everyone googles someone
before they date them. Right, it doesn't matter if you're
a celebrity or not.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
This is Genuinely Gigi.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hi Lanta I'm happy you're here.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I know it's not easy for you, and I know
that you are very apprehensive about even coming here, even
though we're good friends and you trust me, and I've
had your back, you know, publicly, privately we talk event
you know, you're going through a lot, yeah, and everyone
has only had one side of it, unfortunately, and you
have kids involved, which just makes everything so messy. So
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I really respect as a father, as a man that
you have stood back and you haven't said one negative
thing publicly because I know you and I would say
you're just a man, But why why haven't you?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, first, she's the mother of my child, so you know,
no matter what happens in life, I will never disparage
or talk ill about her because she's Ocean's mom. And
so you know, I have two other kids and I
co parent with Amber and and in that world, you know,
I've never said one negative thing and Amber and vice versa.
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You know, I think it's just, you know, I just
think that at the end of the day, you know,
all the smoke or whatever this may be, you know,
I'm not that comfortable in this whole thing. But but
the truth is, you know, I just have to always
look at the big picture, which is she's the mother
of ocean, and I'm always going to have to you know,
you know, keep that. You know, that's just that's I
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just can't talk badly about the mother of my child.
I just can't do it, no matter what is said
about me or what she says or you know, So.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
How does it feel, because honestly, it's almost like every
two three days there is something new that you know,
we are publicly hearing that she is saying about you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Does it hurt?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How does it feel personally inside?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, I mean it doesn't. It doesn't feel good, you know.
It's uh, you know, I'm I'm working, you know, to
provide for my family and my children every day and
spending time with my kids like I always have, and
at the end of the day, I you know, just
try to keep my head up, you know, I don't
you know, I just hope that eventually that stuff subsides
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and people move on to something else, you know. I honestly,
at the it's just there's always two sides to every story.
But I'm just not going to ever take that to
the public because you know, I just I just can't
get involved in all. It's just never going to be
who I am. You know, I like making films in
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my career, and I love my children and at the
end of the day, you know, I'm a single dad now,
you know. I I've made mistakes, She's made mistakes, but
but I'm never going to bring that to light because
it's just not the right for me. I just don't
feel it's appropriate. I can't tell her what to do.
She's she's a strong woman, and you know, I just
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hope that in time, you know, that kind of all
mellows out.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean, I feel like you are in a different
category of celebrity fame in the Hollywood world than, for instance,
someone like La La or myself, right or reality stars.
I always consider myself like a d lister, you know,
I do.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm a dlister that I'm like, h.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
No, you're not.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No, really, you have a different status in this industry
than someone like La La does. And I feel like naturally,
being in this reality TV world that I've been in
for eleven twelve years now, we sort of get attracted
to drama a little bit, and we sometimes whether we're
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in the press for good or bad stuff. We don't
care sometimes until unless we have little morals within ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Some of us do, some of us don't.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Do you think that this is going to affect you
in your category of industry having all these bad things
out there, because I've seen you. You and I talk
and I've heard you You're it's hard on you, and
you're worried. This is your career, this is your life,
this is how you provide for your family.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Can this affect you?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, I mean, I think it's affected me emotionally, you know,
I think that you know, it's hard. You know, when
your mother sends you an article or your well, you know,
your friend sends you an article. It's you know, it's
just But I'm probably more upset at the end of
the day that my twelve year old has access to
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stuff on the internet. I think that's probably the part
that me that that's the worst part for me. But
at the end of the day, you know, you know,
I've been in this industry for a long time. People
know who I am. You know, my friends and my
family know who I am. And you know, we had
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a relationship and we broke up and I made mistakes
and she made mistakes. But at the end of the day,
like I don't understand. I don't think maybe I'm just
too old to understand why, you know, why people you
know why it's out there like that, every like it's
five months later, you know, But at the end of
the day, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It is it's.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
A minute.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But I'm still reading things.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Every week there's something and every time I send it
to you, my Lord Jesus, how do you feel?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Are you okay all this? I just read this? Are
you all right?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah? I think that for me, I just I really
keep my head down and I'm trying to focus on
on for me what's important right now, which is you know,
being a dad to my three girls and to work
and to being you know, to be focused on my work.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Speaking of being a dad, Ocean just heard one. Congratulations,
that's a big number. One is a big one.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It was well, especially when you have two other girls
and they're twelve and eight and you haven't seen one
in eight years. So it's been our seven years. It's
been it's been a minute. So one was a big deal,
you know, it was. It was a it was a flashback,
but it was great. We we went, uh, we had
a little party at the house, and I mean Ocean's one,
so it's not like I can you know. And my
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two daughters, London and Riley were there and excuse me,
their mother Amber came by bring Ocean present and uh,
and then we went and then and then this weekend, Uh,
the girls are going to take her to Disneyland. So
we're all going to visits.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We do you and law?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Law, Are you guys at the place yet where you
go to each other's birthdays for the kid daughter or not?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I mean, you know, I we're not. No, we're not
at that place, but not yet.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Let's say.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But by the way, yeah, I could be at that place,
but you know that's I have to let Laala make
that call. You know that I'm optimistic that you know,
one day that that we will be at that place
and that she will uh be open to that. But
you know, I respect what however she wants this to be.
I'm going to be respectful of that. And so she
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did her own thing and and and uh.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Has it been difficult for in your household because Lala
is like your first really serious relationship after your marriage
and you have other kids. So she played a big
role in your household, right like as a I'm sure
your kids looked up.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
To her that. Yeah, yeah, I really don't want to
touch on. I just don't want to touch only.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I don't want you to talk about Yeah, but yeah, okay,
no problem, no problem.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You did say that you hope.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That one day soon your name won't really be all
over there press and you know, the news in a
negative light, and.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well have it in any light light and good. Yeah,
but I mean I'd be happy just you know, going
back to being you know, Randal the filmmaker and and
and only my community. You don't know, I don't know
if that's if that I don't I don't know how
it works. I don't know if like there's a period
where you know you're an F less celebrity and or
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H and then and then like it takes twelve months
and then you drop off. I don't know how it works.
But I'm hoping that, like in my category of you
know whatever, H celebrity, I'm hoping you're I think H is.
I think I don't think there's even a Z, because
Z would be like, oh, it's a bookend. No. I
think I think I feel like if I was but
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if that's where I'm at, if that's where somebody says
I'm at, I would hope that there's like a time expiration.
I hope that I expire, uh like in twelve months
or something, because it's four months, five months. I thought
by now and I would have expired. But yeah, so
so I don't know, so I it's it's uh, it was.
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It was different. You know. I wasn't prepared for for
any of that stuff. You know. I I got in
a relationship, and she was new on the show, and
she you know, definitely didn't have any celebrity yet.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
How long after she was on the show?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Is this whoa? I met her like right after the
first episode aired and her first episode, and I think
we got together like after probably after the season, somewhere
around there. And and so then and and I don't
I don't remember the timeline, but we met, but then
we didn't, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Mean, I watched it on TV with the rest of
the world. I only know that part the same as
the rest of the world. Was the secret boyfriend that
bought the range Rover, which is it's a lame.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I'm too old for that type of bullshit. You're too
old for that type of bullshit.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You and I get along so well because we have
a like mindedness and like just people just need to
chill the fuck out, mind their own business, kind of
stay in.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Their own lane a little bit. But that's not what
this industry is about.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
This industry sort of dives in and it dives deep,
and it fucking annihilates anything in its path that tries
to stop it.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, I agree, and I you know, I don't. I
don't think I knew what I was. I don't think
I knew what I was signing up for. A meaning,
I was signing up for a relationship. And I, you know,
uh very much in love with her and and uh
and loved her and and and will always love her.
And I think that that world I wasn't prepared for.
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You know, I didn't. I had no idea. I thought
you could just date somebody in that world and they
leave you alone and that person is the star. And
then you know, time goes on and uh and and
and people want to know and then you start realizing
and then you're already so in the relationship. You're years
in at that point. But when I met her, you know,
she was only on the first season. It wasn't should
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have obviously the big celebrity that she has today, and
she was very.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Different then too. It was like she wasn't sober.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
We're going to take a quick break, but when we
come back, Katie's very strong.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
What a strength. I'm a stronger. But I would never
diminish someone I chose to. I would never get married,
first of all, let's just put that out there.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And if I did, I would never diminish the poor bastard.
I was just fucking divorced, in which I did. I
married a guy, and seven weeks later, instead of talking shit,
I signed a paper. It was cool for the world
to watch her get sober. I went through sobriety. I
did one hundred and twenty days of rehab two thousand
and five. And I know what happened with me, Like
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over time, I started noticing the people I was hanging
out with weren't serving me in.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A positive way.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I started, you know, getting rid of certain people
and introducing different types of people into my lives that
were helping me growing me. Did you see a change
like that shift being so close you guys were so
close with each other.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, I don't know. I just I just think that,
like no, I just think that I wasn't prepared for
for what that world has a store. I mean, I
can't believe you know how nasty people are to me
or to my kids. They don't know me, they never
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met me. They know nothing about my my my life,
or my childhood or my upbringing and the things I've
been through, the struggles that I've gone through as a
as a young person and even today, and they just
they just sit at a computer and fire like the nastiest,
most evil stuff I've ever seen. And you know, I
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have this new thing now when I when somebody's really mean,
like to the point where I'm like they're talking about
my kids or or just you know, my family or something.
Now I have a new thing where I you don't
when I was younger, I used to maybe come back
because law of it. You used to always, you know,
stap back and defend. And She's good at that stuff.
I'm not as witty. So now I say, like they
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say something really mean, I say, I say, Hi, Judy,
it's so nice to hear from you. I hope you're
having a beautiful week. So thank you for the kind words.
So that's what I've been doing. Now. It's actually like therapeutic,
Like I don't get mad anymore. I don't get frustrated now.
I just like a girl the other day, forgot a
woman the other day, or a guy the other day,
forgot the think there's a guy and a woman. They
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both were so nasty, and I was like, David, you
are the kind your words are so kind, so inspiring.
Keep up the happy Monday. Thank you so much. You know,
talk soon. I just I just I go the complete
other way now. Sometimes they just come back over the
top and aren't asked here. But a lot of times
they're like, you know, you're right, I shouldn't have been.
I don't really know you, and you know, I just don't.
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I don't understand it. I don't understand when you don't
know somebody. I mean, I obviously they know what they
read and I guess, but I mean to be so
angry and so mean and you don't even know the
It's not like I ran into that person at a
restaurant and told them move out of the way, like
it's like somebody from Iowa. So that's been all that's
been a transition, and the whole social media of it,
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where it's tough.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I felt bad. I still do.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I feel bad when I see these things coming out
about you. I care about you a lot, and obviously
I show that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
In a very different no high.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Judy, hope you have a great day with me. It's
get a fucking life. And I killed it with logic.
I kill people with facts and logic, and I make
people feel stupid about the thing that they were doing.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And honestly, it's just been so much of it.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And I'll be I don't care if I sound sexist
because I'm a woman and I can say this. I
do feel like there's a lot of support, more support
behind women who are heartbroken than a man who is heartbroken.
There's been no room for you to say how you
feel about this breakup. It's a loss for you, just
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like it is for her.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But no one has heard that I have.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I'm lucky enough to be your friend and you know,
hear what you're going through and be there for you.
But the world hasn't heard anything. They just hear a
woman scorn and with anger and rage, you know. So
I'm just I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I just I can't I'm just never going to really
comment on all that stuff. I just feel like what
I'm going through and what I've gone through, what my
mistakes and my accountability, and that she also has a
side to it, which I you know, again we'll never
go into. But you know, I feel like, at the
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end of the day, we have Ocean. You know, we
have this beautiful girl that you know, that is the
most important thing. And when I think about all the
chaos and the things that people I don't really read
stuff anymore at all. I don't. It's just healthier for me.
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But when somebody sends me something, or my mother will
send me, I to ask her not to, but she does.
You know. I just try to think, like, you know,
we have this beautiful girl, and she wouldn't be here
if it wasn't for for us, and that that is
worth all of the turmoil and the heartbreak and the
pain that that you know has gone on. I'm not
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saying that I'm happy about any of it. I'm not.
I'm sad, But at the same time, I have Ocean.
She has Ocean, and I think we both would say that,
you know, we have her out of this and and
how can we not be grateful. You know. That's how
I feel. So so that's why I'll never you know,
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I just can't go down that road of like, you know,
my feelings, because my feelings are not in my opinion,
they're just not relevant on a public platform, right.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And I think you're absolutely a great father, not just
to Ocean, but I'll tell your children, and I see
you're always actively with them, playing with them and just
doing fun things for them, which is great I didn't have.
My dad was a workaholic, which he built what he built,
you know, which I'm grateful for. But I really see
your posts and your videos and I just wish I
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had more of that with my dad, you know my dad.
I met you because of my dad, like not because
A la la poker.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That's awesome. And when he came to a charity thing
for what was the l A p D.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, my dad was like besties with the chief.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yes, my dad's designed all the precincts and you know
poline station, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, no, we met. We met there playing poker and
then your dad and I were on the final table
or yeah, you know it was fun.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And then you lost and then you were giving my
dad tips on how to win.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yes, I was trying to coach, which be coaching poker
is kind of like a joke. But anyway, that was
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, wait, you haven't taught ocean pickleball yet.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm trying. She loves the ball. She holds the ball
all day this morning. The ball is her obsession, at
least in my house and then, but now the balloon
is the obsession. Like this morning we were watching TV
and she was laying in bed with the balloon for
an hour. Did not let go of the balloon. The
balloon is more exciting than anything right now. But the
ball is big. The pickleball is big big. She likes
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to watch me play, or she watches her sister's play.
But yeah, I think, I mean, listen, Laala is athletic.
I'm I don't know, pretend I'm athletic.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, if you play pickle ball, you have to
have stamina, and that's not an easy You gotta keep moving.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yes, I'm a good pickleball player. I'm never good at
any other sports, but I'm good at.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Your devoted I'm committed.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You send me links to random pickleball ship that I'm
like Randall I am not interested.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Pickle ball is.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh my god, what is up with pickleball? What do
you have in store with the pickleball world?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, I'm in the middle of buying, uh, closing
a deal right now of buying an app, a big
app in the pickleball community, which we want to grow
and turn into like because we see the sport as
a twenty twenty eight Olympic game, and that's what that's
what most people see it as. In excuse it's the
fastest scoring sport in the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And for for my for my audience out there, that
I learned what pickleball was via for those.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Who don't know what pickleball is, what is pickleball?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Pickleball is like a small version of tennis, except you
play with like a fiberglass racket or a graphite racket
with no strings. It's a whiffle ball, not a tennis
woof whiffle whiffle, and it's like it's it's whiffle. It's light,
and it's a very small court. So what makes it great?
I think why why people in this country are addicted
is because you could be any age with very little
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athletic ability, and you could still come out and play
the first time tennis, because I wrote, a lot of
people play tennis before they play pickle ball. Tennis. You
have to be a certain level to play with somebody
at your level. Like I can't go out in tennis
to play with the beginner because it would be torture, right,
the ball would be going over that off the park.
So where's wiffle ball? It's so easy that the court
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is so small that I could go out there, Like
I go out there with my twelve year old even
though she's been taking It's called pickleball, but it's played
with a whiffle ball play it should be called pickleball
is like, you know, an odd thing, but anyway, So
it's a very easy game and people of every age play,
and it's really becoming a big, big, big uh sport,
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and it's it's number one in America. It's growing at
a rate that's unbelievable. We just had the PPA Tour,
which is the pig a Ball Pro Tour bought by
a billionaire named Tom Dundan, So he's dumping an incredible
amount of money, so that it's just you're getting a
lot of people into the game. Yeah, and You've got
a lot of celebrities that play, and I'm putting on
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a big pro am next year in LA and blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So yeah, and you blew it up on a vander
Pump rules. I think that's the way a lot of
people even learned.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
About it was.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I think that's the reason play.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It was just hilarious and you were just getting all involved.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, you with any of them?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Do you still play with pickleball? Did they ever come
over and play pick a ball with you? Are they
only alas side now?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No? I mean they're always Jack Jack Sign been friends
for for forever and we're still friends. I mean we
had lunch yesterday, a sweetheart and he's he's always been
a friend to me and always be a friend of him.
And Tom Schwartz, Uh and I still talk and I
know that he's now going through a really tough time.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So you guys are cool.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
At least they bumped you out of the press and
they came into the press, so hoad of you.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Now we should thank them for their they're supposed to
they're divorcing or they're separated.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't know. I read what you read, but you know,
but but the thing is. I don't want to see
anybody go through anything, and I you know, my heart
goes out to.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Tom and I'm happy for Tom. I honest to god.
He's such a sweet guy and he deserves to be
with someone who values him and not diminishes him.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's so fucked up.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We watch it on camera and there's like, listen, I'm
on a reality show. There's cameras in the room. You're
miked up, and you're diminishing your husband.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
In front of mom.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Okay, listen.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
For the rest. I'm not. I am not, honestly, and
it's Katie is very strong.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
What a strength. I'm a stronger. But I would never
diminish someone. I would never get married, first of all,
let's just put that out there. And if I did,
I would never diminish the poor bastard. I would just
fucking divorce. In which I did.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I married a guy, and seven weeks later, instead of
talking ship, I signed a paper.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Okay, everybody I think does it in their own way.
Arguing with argue with anybody these days, All I'm going
to say is this. I think anytime people break up,
it's it's a sad and sing and I'm sure they're
both going through a really difficult time, honestly, and I
know that I've known them both.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Because you're a big teddy bear. You're softy, and that's
why it's sad for you. I'm like, yes, do you
want my divorce attorney? I got you, boy, I got
you covered. And my divorce attorney over.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah she's really good.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, she's a great divorce attorney.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
By the way, just in case of your future, Yeah,
are you Are you dating?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I'm dating, but I'm not dating, like exclusively anybody. Like
I know there's there's stuff out there that says I am,
but whatever, I'm not. And and right now I'm just
trying to get my feet on the ground, you know.
I'm just trying to figure out life. I'm focused right
now on making sure my my work is providing for
my family and doing that and being there for my kids.
(24:54):
And I'm just dating and figuring things out. Yeah, I
just I think I need to time to really get
my head back to that place. Like you know, this
is it's one thing to go through a breakup. It's
another thing to go through a breakup the way that
I've had to go through a breakup, And I'm not
looking for any sympathy of any sort. I just I
(25:16):
wasn't prepared for this, uh kind of thing. And so
it's a little more intense than you know, sitting in
your house and going through it. You know, you're kind
of it's it's kind of everywhere and everybody is aware.
So it's like you know everybody.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, you worried about that?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I mean because this day and age, everyone googles someone
before they date them, right, it doesn't matter you get googled.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, if that's the case. If that's the case, because.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Sugar and your are you worried that, like you.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
If my dating life is going to be dictated by
by the internet, I'm going to know that I'm gonna
be alone the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No, are you worried that you might get a certain type?
You might have tract a certain type.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Honestly, my head.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
First it was about you being you are, sugar Daddy,
and I think that everyone was like ooh rnsell, let
me try to get in on that sugar daddy, you know.
And then now these this whole other perceptions being put
out there. Do you think one will outweigh the other?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Do you think people forget about it all. Are you
worried at all.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
About I don't think about that stuff, Honestly, I don't.
I really don't. I just I just try to do
my thing every day. And you know, I'm fifty years old,
Like the internet is. It's a world that I don't understand.
I you know, unfortunately, I just don't. I don't understand
how you know, people just can say anything they want
and just it just pH And so for me, you know,
(26:46):
I feel like when I start dating seriously, I will
that person will not hopefully care about the book. Yeah,
I mean it's just that's tough, you know, you know
I I think at the end of the day, I
I it's so far out of my realm right now,
Like right now, it's really just I have three girls,
(27:07):
and uh, they take up a lot of mine. I mean,
you have a you have a child, so you know,
one child takes up and you're in your full time,
you know, your full time. So you know, I'm sharing custody.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Uh, I don't have anywhere to drop off my kids right.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right, and so I have so I have to balance
a job and making sure that my girls also have
my attention. So right, now there's just I think it's
going to take me a minute. Yeah, because because I
have to Yeah, because I have to kind of balance
all this stuff. I have to balance, Like, Okay, I'm
home for this amount of hours and I can go
to the office and do that. Then I have to
go on a set and and and then I come
(27:44):
home again. And I'm just trying to juggle. And I
think that'll take me a while. And I think it's
going to take me time to get through all this
stuff and and and be okay. And I think, what excuse.
Once I get to that place, then I can Then
then maybe I'll be more concerned about that, like what
are the you know, what are people going to think?
But I don't think I even think that way because
I'm okay, you know, having to balance my responsibilities, which
(28:08):
are every day, you know, full stop to the brim.
We're going to take a quick break. But when we
come back.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You guys talk through an app right now though, because.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Of the court stuff we do, do you you and
I know you do wish it would get to a
better place.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, you guys can communicate hopefully.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, yeah, I mean, listen, we talk about ocean.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And I think it's a good idea for you in
law law to get to a good place, you know,
because I know that you're the mother of your other children.
You guys are in a good place. And you guys
co parents, we always have been. You guys are cool,
you guys, So that's a great place to be for
a child to see their parents be in that happy place.
And then when you want to start dating, it's so
(28:58):
much easier for the new person in your life, for
the children involved that everyone's just in a happy, trusting yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And and and again at the end of the day
that really co parenting is the only focus of mine.
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You guys talk through an app right now though because
of the court stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
We do, do you.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You and I know you do wish it would get
to a better place where you guys can communicate hopefully.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well yeah, I mean, listen, we talk about ocean, you know,
and that's and that's and that's it, and and and honestly,
as long as we're talking about our daughter, and I
mean that's the most important thing. The rest of it's
not to me. The rest of it is what it is,
you know, I think to other people it's more exciting
and important, but to me, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You've never responded to her like, oh my god, why
did you say this about me?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I mean, I'm just you know, she listened, she's she's
a great mother, you know, I'm a great father. And
and and Oceans, in my opinion, very lucky to have
two parents who love her, you know, as much as
we both do. And and at the end of the day, Uh,
you know, that's all I can ask for. I I really,
I can't ask for anything more than that. I you know,
(30:10):
of course, I'm hopeful in the future that you know,
I hope that we'll get to a place of of
being of the co parenting being maybe a little more fluid.
But at the end of the day, you know, we're
co parenting and and and that's that's it. My focus
is Ocean. My focus is not anything else right now.
And in London and Riley obviously that's been my focus
(30:30):
until Ocean was born. So you know, I have three
girls that I have to be responsible to and and
the rest of like the mechanic of it, you know,
don't they're not as you know, I don't. I don't
let them kind of take over as much. And I
think that I think that, I really, you know, I
I just want to be the best co parent I
(30:53):
can be, and and whatever version that is going to
be right now, I support, you know, and I'm going
to let her, you know, if she's not ready to
do more than what we're doing, it's okay, you know.
Like that, Like, Ocean's loved very much by her, and
she's loved very much by me. I mean, her sisters
(31:14):
at home are infatuated. You know. Riley carries Ocean around
like it's her baby. You know. Riley gets mad when
Ocean doesn't want to let go my shirt. Riley will say,
you know, Dad, this isn't fair. I want Ocean. And
I'm like, you gotta let your dad have Ocean for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, I'm like, Riley, you gotta let your
dad have her for a minute. And she's like Dad,
(31:34):
and I'm like trying to give her to it. Somebody's
Ocean's like holding out of my shirt, and I'm like,
just let daddy have her for like two minutes, five minutes,
let me just have a few minutes. And but but
Riley loves being the big sister. She loves playing with her.
And then London, who I really really thought, you know,
because teenagers like they you know, when a new baby comes,
it's like you deal with kind of the weight of attention.
And London did. I did deal with that in the beginning.
(31:55):
London really struggled in the early months of like, well
it's a little bit, it just sleeps and eats, really,
But now Ocean has such a big personality. Now London's like,
I want to hold her, I want to play with her.
So now it's like now it's like they and they
came up with the idea to go to Disneyland, so like,
we want to take Ocean to Disneyland. This will be
so old, that's amazing fun.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, the fact that you have got understanding says a
lot about you. And you're not oblivious to having such
a huge age difference in and siblings that you're recognizing
that this one is an octive teenager.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
She go to do this and this in life, and
here's a two year one year old who's just starting
out in life.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, and you got to separate and define your attention
and how you distribute.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh, that's the most complicated thing because I'm stuck at all.
My kids are three years old still like like London, Riley,
I still look at them as they're three. So I
have a big problem which I've had to address now.
Even my twelve year old has sit downs with me
now where she said the other day and then her
mother Amber called me and he goes, you know, you
need to take London to do different things that you
(32:58):
take with Riley, And I'm like, but she was like
five the other day. How was she twelve? So yeah,
that's the hardest part for me. So now after I
had an emotional The time I had the emotional breakdown
was when we were in the mall and she and
I brought her girlfriend with her and they went to
the mall and or it was a Grover. It was
(33:18):
the mall I forgot where one of the Westfield one
of them, and we go there and I walk in
in London and her girlfriend go, Dad, we're gonna go
to these couple of stores and then we'll be back
in like in thirty minutes. And I go, what, Like,
I've had them attached at my hip anywhere we go,
and I'm like, what do you mean thirty minutes And
she's like and then her girlfriend's like, no, we'll be back.
We have our phones, you can call us. My mom
(33:40):
does it all the time. And I was like, all right,
you go to that store and I'm gonna watch. And
so she goes to the store. It's like six feet
away and I call Amber. I'm like, Amber, what is
going on? And She's like, no, no, this is you
have to let them have their eventdans And I was like,
I put the phone down. I was like bawling, like
in the mall by myself.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So it's hard for her fathers when they have daughters.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
It's a very different thing with boys. Yeah, boy, it's
like very different.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
He's going to football around them and get off, figure
it out, get it together.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
You know. I was like, walk off. Yeah, if I
had a son, and it would be very very different
because I wouldn't be like, Yo, let's go kick in
the backyard and let's go play. But no. So so
that was a big change. So now I'm really good
at because London will come to me and say, Dad,
I want to go I want to go to the mall,
but I really don't want Riley coming. I want to
just be you and I. So I'll say to Riley,
are you cool with the hanging with ocean, and she's like, yeah,
(34:30):
she's like good to go, So I take, I take London.
We go shopping. I help her get whatever she wants
and the clothes for she needs, and then we have
like a great two hours that she comes home and
she's happy. So I've learned. It took a long time.
I was still taking her to do ship that five
year olds.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But I know, you high five for that because that's
really good behavior.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I commend you for that.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And people don't realize that about you because they don't
know anything about you. But you love kids, Yeah, love kids,
and you're just a great dad. You're very hands on
and you know that's awesome. And I I hope on
all that negative shit.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Goes out of the way soon because your kids are
getting older.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So that's that's the only part.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It's bigger and bigger and more accessible to kids, so
I hope that they don't have to see much more.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And I just I do too.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
What would you if you had to say one last
thing that was maybe your takeaway from and it doesn't
have to be just from law law situation, but just
in the last I don't know, ten years, what have
you been, what have you learned, what have you come
across and changed about yourself?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
In general?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Well, uh, I think I'm more patient, you know, I really,
I really I didn't have a lot of patients as
a younger person. You know, I have a lot of
energy naturally, but I think at fifty, I kind of
am more tolerant of things. I think that you know,
if you asked me fifteen years ago and this was happening,
(35:53):
you know, maybe I would have opened my mouth and
not thought first retaliated. Maybe maybe probably I probably would
have been like you know, I probably would have been
like what, you know, I have something to say today.
I think about Ocean, I think about London. I think
about Riley. You know, when it comes to speaking publicly,
you know, everybody makes mistakes and everybody's nobody's perfect. You know,
(36:15):
if if we had to take a magnifying glass to
everybody's life, everybody is is has has faults and it
makes you know, I I at the end of the day,
I you know, I'm moving forward and you know, again
always being a dad that I've been. But I think
I'm more tolerant today and I think that I'm more patient,
(36:36):
and you know, in being understanding more understanding understanding. Yeah,
And I think that I think that life, if you
have your health, you know, you're healthy. You know, there's
a lot of people that don't have that, and we
forget that the little things in life like health and
children and your children's health and your family's health, I
mean family health. I have friends. I have a friend
(36:57):
specifically who's got a child that's very sick, and I
mean the pain and the and the and the sadness
that he has to face daily. It puts like when
I see him, it puts it in perspective because I
I'm like, you know, pray for him, for his for
his child. Uh. And and so you know, we were
(37:19):
given a blessing and you know, unfortunately, uh, you know,
nobody's perfect. And I think that sometimes we think everybody
should be perfect and we have to be forgiving, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Absolutely, because none of us are perfect and we all
and and.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
We all have and and and and we all have
made mistakes, not just you know, you know, not everybody
owns all their mistakes.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
But but that's the thing right.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
There, the issues that everyone's a judge, but not everyone
can take accountability to their own.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
And that's the Internet trolls and all that bullshit that
we deal with.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And this modern day society is just people who just
go on and type some ship up and it just
goes viral and all of a sudden, it's something that
never even exists.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So it's just, yeah, stay woke people.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I don't know how you do it, and I know
that you do it on your show every day, and
I had a very small taste of it, and it
was a large enough taste for me to, you know,
understand that it's a lot like you've been on that
show for how many years?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You're s Shaw's is geez we just a couple of
days ago. It was ten years from the first episode
airing years.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I mean, that's true. I can't imagine the eleven years
of the up and down and by the way it
seems like and if I was to guess, when you
started eleven years ago, the social media press was the
link it is today. It was so you It was
so different back then, right, So.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Today it's very competitive. It's just weird today.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
There's no respect, I think, And that's why I understand,
Like Denzel Washington always says, I'm not going to get
on Instagram because the more exclusive you are, the more
people want you, the more.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
The defend is.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
But literally it's shifting.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
It's more available you are, the more want of you.
Look at Kim Kardashian, she's like twenty times a day.
What she posts, she does twenty times a day if
she posts so much, So there's something.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think I followed.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I think party. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I don't know if I follow her. I don't remember.
But you don't follow Kim k No, I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I can't be friend. Kim is life, everybody life.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
When she was caught fucking range A, not necessarily caught,
but like you know, produced to Chris produced A.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, we know how that happened.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
All that. Hold on, Wait but wait, so but she
posts that much she does.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
She posts a lot. It's turning into I think that's
just what social media.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I don't follow. I don't follow him Kardashians, but I
follow I follow uh Courtney.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Oh, she's the only Kardashian I do.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
That shows you. That shows you how to touch.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Following her because of who she's seeing, now, that's right.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
No, I think I followed her because I knew Scott
you know back in the day, and like and I
and and I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, it was always the least interesting to watch. And
I'm kidding, I'm kidding, You're kidding, no love, But.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
What an amazing empire they've built. I mean that's I mean,
come on, I mean there, I mean get and this
new deal at Hulu, which I'm not even a big.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Kardashian, fills every time I think about it.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
By the way, that trailer they put out was was epic.
I died And I don't even I don't even watch
The Kardashians, like you.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Don't watch the Card. Everybody watches The Kardashians. Everybody watches.
How did you even know who Scott Dizzick was if
you didn't watch The Kardashians.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I went to Coabbo with him, la I did. I
went to him and Sophia Richie.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's how you met him the first No, no, no,
I knew him.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Through like Alex other friends. No other Okay, I'm kidding,
I quit. I quit, Thank you, thanks, thanks you.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Anything else that you would want out there, just you
want to say a lost piece? Is there anything you
want people to look forward to or anything you want.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
To no, I mean just that. You know, I directed
a movie that I've come out in the fall with
Robert to Niro, John Malkovich, and Jack Houston, and it'll
come out in September.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait stop. You gotta
say that very slow because you just named gods. You
just named some gods right now, so can you rename
the people that are in this upcoming film.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Robert de Niro, John Malkovich, Jack Houston, and Quevo from
the Migos.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And when is it coming out?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
September?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
What's it called?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Wash Me in the River?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
All right, everybody's going to have to look out for that.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Thank you, Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Genuinely Gigi. For
the first time ever, Genuinely Gig is going to do
an in person, one on one exclusive interview with none
other than Randall Emmett. He's going to be here because
he's a good friend of mine. He trusts me, and
he knows that we're just going to really show the
world who the real Randall Emmett is. The world has
heard so many rumors about Randall Emmett and La Law's
(00:27):
breakup allegations, but we want to get a little insider
on Randall and have him talk to you about his
children and how he is as a father at home.
He's a big girl dad and he loves one on
one time with his kids. While Lala has been actively
verbal in the press, Randall has stayed quiet and for
the first time, we're going to find out why. You
(00:51):
know her from Shaw's of Sunset, you know she doesn't
hold back.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Are you worried about that?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I mean because this day and age, everyone googles someone
before they date them. Right, it doesn't matter if you're
a celebrity or not.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
This is Genuinely Gigi.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hi Lanta I'm happy you're here.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I know it's not easy for you, and I know
that you are very apprehensive about even coming here, even
though we're good friends and you trust me, and I've
had your back, you know, publicly, privately we talk event
you know, you're going through a lot, yeah, and everyone
has only had one side of it, unfortunately, and you
have kids involved, which just makes everything so messy. So
(01:43):
I really respect as a father, as a man that
you have stood back and you haven't said one negative
thing publicly because I know you and I would say
you're just a man, But why why haven't you?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, first, she's the mother of my child, so you know,
no matter what happens in life, I will never disparage
or talk ill about her because she's Ocean's mom. And
so you know, I have two other kids and I
co parent with Amber and and in that world, you know,
I've never said one negative thing and Amber and vice versa.
(02:23):
You know, I think it's just, you know, I just
think that at the end of the day, you know,
all the smoke or whatever this may be, you know,
I'm not that comfortable in this whole thing. But but
the truth is, you know, I just have to always
look at the big picture, which is she's the mother
of ocean, and I'm always going to have to you know,
you know, keep that. You know, that's just that's I
(02:46):
just can't talk badly about the mother of my child.
I just can't do it, no matter what is said
about me or what she says or you know, So.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
How does it feel, because honestly, it's almost like every
two three days there is something new that you know,
we are publicly hearing that she is saying about you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Does it hurt?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How does it feel personally inside?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, I mean it doesn't. It doesn't feel good, you know.
It's uh, you know, I'm I'm working, you know, to
provide for my family and my children every day and
spending time with my kids like I always have, and
at the end of the day, I you know, just
try to keep my head up, you know, I don't
you know, I just hope that eventually that stuff subsides
(03:32):
and people move on to something else, you know. I honestly,
at the it's just there's always two sides to every story.
But I'm just not going to ever take that to
the public because you know, I just I just can't
get involved in all. It's just never going to be
who I am. You know, I like making films in
(03:53):
my career, and I love my children and at the
end of the day, you know, I'm a single dad now,
you know. I I've made mistakes, She's made mistakes, but
but I'm never going to bring that to light because
it's just not the right for me. I just don't
feel it's appropriate. I can't tell her what to do.
She's she's a strong woman, and you know, I just
(04:16):
hope that in time, you know, that kind of all
mellows out.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean, I feel like you are in a different
category of celebrity fame in the Hollywood world than, for instance,
someone like La La or myself, right or reality stars.
I always consider myself like a d lister, you know,
I do.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm a dlister that I'm like, h.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
No, you're not.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
No, really, you have a different status in this industry
than someone like La La does. And I feel like naturally,
being in this reality TV world that I've been in
for eleven twelve years now, we sort of get attracted
to drama a little bit, and we sometimes whether we're
(05:02):
in the press for good or bad stuff. We don't
care sometimes until unless we have little morals within ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Some of us do, some of us don't.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Do you think that this is going to affect you
in your category of industry having all these bad things
out there, because I've seen you. You and I talk
and I've heard you You're it's hard on you, and
you're worried. This is your career, this is your life,
this is how you provide for your family.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Can this affect you?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, I mean, I think it's affected me emotionally, you know,
I think that you know, it's hard. You know, when
your mother sends you an article or your well, you know,
your friend sends you an article. It's you know, it's
just But I'm probably more upset at the end of
the day that my twelve year old has access to
(05:50):
stuff on the internet. I think that's probably the part
that me that that's the worst part for me. But
at the end of the day, you know, you know,
I've been in this industry for a long time. People
know who I am. You know, my friends and my
family know who I am. And you know, we had
(06:11):
a relationship and we broke up and I made mistakes
and she made mistakes. But at the end of the day,
like I don't understand. I don't think maybe I'm just
too old to understand why, you know, why people you
know why it's out there like that, every like it's
five months later, you know, But at the end of
the day, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It is it's.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
A minute.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But I'm still reading things.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Every week there's something and every time I send it
to you, my Lord Jesus, how do you feel?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Are you okay all this? I just read this? Are
you all right?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah? I think that for me, I just I really
keep my head down and I'm trying to focus on
on for me what's important right now, which is you know,
being a dad to my three girls and to work
and to being you know, to be focused on my work.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Speaking of being a dad, Ocean just heard one. Congratulations,
that's a big number. One is a big one.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It was well, especially when you have two other girls
and they're twelve and eight and you haven't seen one
in eight years. So it's been our seven years. It's
been it's been a minute. So one was a big deal,
you know, it was. It was a it was a flashback,
but it was great. We we went, uh, we had
a little party at the house, and I mean Ocean's one,
so it's not like I can you know. And my
(07:32):
two daughters, London and Riley were there and excuse me,
their mother Amber came by bring Ocean present and uh,
and then we went and then and then this weekend, Uh,
the girls are going to take her to Disneyland. So
we're all going to visits.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We do you and law?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Law, Are you guys at the place yet where you
go to each other's birthdays for the kid daughter or not?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I mean, you know, I we're not. No, we're not
at that place, but not yet.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Let's say.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
But by the way, yeah, I could be at that place,
but you know that's I have to let Laala make
that call. You know that I'm optimistic that you know,
one day that that we will be at that place
and that she will uh be open to that. But
you know, I respect what however she wants this to be.
I'm going to be respectful of that. And so she
(08:20):
did her own thing and and and uh.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Has it been difficult for in your household because Lala
is like your first really serious relationship after your marriage
and you have other kids. So she played a big
role in your household, right like as a I'm sure
your kids looked up.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
To her that. Yeah, yeah, I really don't want to
touch on. I just don't want to touch only.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I don't want you to talk about Yeah, but yeah, okay,
no problem, no problem.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You did say that you hope.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That one day soon your name won't really be all
over there press and you know, the news in a
negative light, and.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well have it in any light light and good. Yeah,
but I mean I'd be happy just you know, going
back to being you know, Randal the filmmaker and and
and only my community. You don't know, I don't know
if that's if that I don't I don't know how
it works. I don't know if like there's a period
where you know you're an F less celebrity and or
(09:26):
H and then and then like it takes twelve months
and then you drop off. I don't know how it works.
But I'm hoping that, like in my category of you
know whatever, H celebrity, I'm hoping you're I think H is.
I think I don't think there's even a Z, because
Z would be like, oh, it's a bookend. No. I
think I think I feel like if I was but
(09:47):
if that's where I'm at, if that's where somebody says
I'm at, I would hope that there's like a time expiration.
I hope that I expire, uh like in twelve months
or something, because it's four months, five months. I thought
by now and I would have expired. But yeah, so
so I don't know, so I it's it's uh, it was.
(10:08):
It was different. You know. I wasn't prepared for for
any of that stuff. You know. I I got in
a relationship, and she was new on the show, and
she you know, definitely didn't have any celebrity yet.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
How long after she was on the show?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Is this whoa? I met her like right after the
first episode aired and her first episode, and I think
we got together like after probably after the season, somewhere
around there. And and so then and and I don't
I don't remember the timeline, but we met, but then
we didn't, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Mean, I watched it on TV with the rest of
the world. I only know that part the same as
the rest of the world. Was the secret boyfriend that
bought the range Rover, which is it's a lame.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I'm too old for that type of bullshit. You're too
old for that type of bullshit.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You and I get along so well because we have
a like mindedness and like just people just need to
chill the fuck out, mind their own business, kind of
stay in.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Their own lane a little bit. But that's not what
this industry is about.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
This industry sort of dives in and it dives deep,
and it fucking annihilates anything in its path that tries
to stop it.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, I agree, and I you know, I don't. I
don't think I knew what I was. I don't think
I knew what I was signing up for. A meaning,
I was signing up for a relationship. And I, you know,
uh very much in love with her and and uh
and loved her and and and will always love her.
And I think that that world I wasn't prepared for.
(11:41):
You know, I didn't. I had no idea. I thought
you could just date somebody in that world and they
leave you alone and that person is the star. And
then you know, time goes on and uh and and
and people want to know and then you start realizing
and then you're already so in the relationship. You're years
in at that point. But when I met her, you know,
she was only on the first season. It wasn't should
(12:02):
have obviously the big celebrity that she has today, and
she was very.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Different then too. It was like she wasn't sober.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
We're going to take a quick break, but when we
come back, Katie's very strong.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
What a strength. I'm a stronger. But I would never
diminish someone I chose to. I would never get married,
first of all, let's just put that out there.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And if I did, I would never diminish the poor bastard.
I was just fucking divorced, in which I did. I
married a guy, and seven weeks later, instead of talking shit,
I signed a paper. It was cool for the world
to watch her get sober. I went through sobriety. I
did one hundred and twenty days of rehab two thousand
and five. And I know what happened with me, Like
(12:46):
over time, I started noticing the people I was hanging
out with weren't serving me in.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A positive way.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I started, you know, getting rid of certain people
and introducing different types of people into my lives that
were helping me growing me. Did you see a change
like that shift being so close you guys were so
close with each other.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, I don't know. I just I just think that,
like no, I just think that I wasn't prepared for
for what that world has a store. I mean, I
can't believe you know how nasty people are to me
or to my kids. They don't know me, they never
(13:27):
met me. They know nothing about my my my life,
or my childhood or my upbringing and the things I've
been through, the struggles that I've gone through as a
as a young person and even today, and they just
they just sit at a computer and fire like the nastiest,
most evil stuff I've ever seen. And you know, I
(13:48):
have this new thing now when I when somebody's really mean,
like to the point where I'm like they're talking about
my kids or or just you know, my family or something.
Now I have a new thing where I you don't
when I was younger, I used to maybe come back
because law of it. You used to always, you know,
stap back and defend. And She's good at that stuff.
I'm not as witty. So now I say, like they
(14:10):
say something really mean, I say, I say, Hi, Judy,
it's so nice to hear from you. I hope you're
having a beautiful week. So thank you for the kind words.
So that's what I've been doing. Now. It's actually like therapeutic,
Like I don't get mad anymore. I don't get frustrated now.
I just like a girl the other day, forgot a
woman the other day, or a guy the other day,
forgot the think there's a guy and a woman. They
(14:31):
both were so nasty, and I was like, David, you
are the kind your words are so kind, so inspiring.
Keep up the happy Monday. Thank you so much. You know,
talk soon. I just I just I go the complete
other way now. Sometimes they just come back over the
top and aren't asked here. But a lot of times
they're like, you know, you're right, I shouldn't have been.
I don't really know you, and you know, I just don't.
(14:53):
I don't understand it. I don't understand when you don't
know somebody. I mean, I obviously they know what they
read and I guess, but I mean to be so
angry and so mean and you don't even know the
It's not like I ran into that person at a
restaurant and told them move out of the way, like
it's like somebody from Iowa. So that's been all that's
been a transition, and the whole social media of it,
(15:17):
where it's tough.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I felt bad. I still do.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I feel bad when I see these things coming out
about you. I care about you a lot, and obviously
I show that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
In a very different no high.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Judy, hope you have a great day with me. It's
get a fucking life. And I killed it with logic.
I kill people with facts and logic, and I make
people feel stupid about the thing that they were doing.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And honestly, it's just been so much of it.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And I'll be I don't care if I sound sexist
because I'm a woman and I can say this. I
do feel like there's a lot of support, more support
behind women who are heartbroken than a man who is heartbroken.
There's been no room for you to say how you
feel about this breakup. It's a loss for you, just
(16:02):
like it is for her.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But no one has heard that I have.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I'm lucky enough to be your friend and you know,
hear what you're going through and be there for you.
But the world hasn't heard anything. They just hear a
woman scorn and with anger and rage, you know. So
I'm just I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I just I can't I'm just never going to really
comment on all that stuff. I just feel like what
I'm going through and what I've gone through, what my
mistakes and my accountability, and that she also has a
side to it, which I you know, again we'll never
go into. But you know, I feel like, at the
(16:42):
end of the day, we have Ocean. You know, we
have this beautiful girl that you know, that is the
most important thing. And when I think about all the
chaos and the things that people I don't really read
stuff anymore at all. I don't. It's just healthier for me.
(17:04):
But when somebody sends me something, or my mother will
send me, I to ask her not to, but she does.
You know. I just try to think, like, you know,
we have this beautiful girl, and she wouldn't be here
if it wasn't for for us, and that that is
worth all of the turmoil and the heartbreak and the
pain that that you know has gone on. I'm not
(17:28):
saying that I'm happy about any of it. I'm not.
I'm sad, But at the same time, I have Ocean.
She has Ocean, and I think we both would say that,
you know, we have her out of this and and
how can we not be grateful. You know. That's how
I feel. So so that's why I'll never you know,
(17:49):
I just can't go down that road of like, you know,
my feelings, because my feelings are not in my opinion,
they're just not relevant on a public platform, right.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And I think you're absolutely a great father, not just
to Ocean, but I'll tell your children, and I see
you're always actively with them, playing with them and just
doing fun things for them, which is great I didn't have.
My dad was a workaholic, which he built what he built,
you know, which I'm grateful for. But I really see
your posts and your videos and I just wish I
(18:19):
had more of that with my dad, you know my dad.
I met you because of my dad, like not because
A la la poker.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That's awesome. And when he came to a charity thing
for what was the l A p D.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, my dad was like besties with the chief.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yes, my dad's designed all the precincts and you know
poline station, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, no, we met. We met there playing poker and
then your dad and I were on the final table
or yeah, you know it was fun.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And then you lost and then you were giving my
dad tips on how to win.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yes, I was trying to coach, which be coaching poker
is kind of like a joke. But anyway, that was
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, wait, you haven't taught ocean pickleball yet.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm trying. She loves the ball. She holds the ball
all day this morning. The ball is her obsession, at
least in my house and then, but now the balloon
is the obsession. Like this morning we were watching TV
and she was laying in bed with the balloon for
an hour. Did not let go of the balloon. The
balloon is more exciting than anything right now. But the
ball is big. The pickleball is big big. She likes
(19:20):
to watch me play, or she watches her sister's play.
But yeah, I think, I mean, listen, Laala is athletic.
I'm I don't know, pretend I'm athletic.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, if you play pickle ball, you have to
have stamina, and that's not an easy You gotta keep moving.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yes, I'm a good pickleball player. I'm never good at
any other sports, but I'm good at.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Your devoted I'm committed.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You send me links to random pickleball ship that I'm
like Randall I am not interested.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Pickle ball is.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh my god, what is up with pickleball? What do
you have in store with the pickleball world?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, I'm in the middle of buying, uh, closing
a deal right now of buying an app, a big
app in the pickleball community, which we want to grow
and turn into like because we see the sport as
a twenty twenty eight Olympic game, and that's what that's
what most people see it as. In excuse it's the
fastest scoring sport in the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
And for for my for my audience out there, that
I learned what pickleball was via for those.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Who don't know what pickleball is, what is pickleball?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Pickleball is like a small version of tennis, except you
play with like a fiberglass racket or a graphite racket
with no strings. It's a whiffle ball, not a tennis
woof whiffle whiffle, and it's like it's it's whiffle. It's light,
and it's a very small court. So what makes it great?
I think why why people in this country are addicted
is because you could be any age with very little
(20:50):
athletic ability, and you could still come out and play
the first time tennis, because I wrote, a lot of
people play tennis before they play pickle ball. Tennis. You
have to be a certain level to play with somebody
at your level. Like I can't go out in tennis
to play with the beginner because it would be torture, right,
the ball would be going over that off the park.
So where's wiffle ball? It's so easy that the court
(21:11):
is so small that I could go out there, Like
I go out there with my twelve year old even
though she's been taking It's called pickleball, but it's played
with a whiffle ball play it should be called pickleball
is like, you know, an odd thing, but anyway, So
it's a very easy game and people of every age play,
and it's really becoming a big, big, big uh sport,
(21:32):
and it's it's number one in America. It's growing at
a rate that's unbelievable. We just had the PPA Tour,
which is the pig a Ball Pro Tour bought by
a billionaire named Tom Dundan, So he's dumping an incredible
amount of money, so that it's just you're getting a
lot of people into the game. Yeah, and You've got
a lot of celebrities that play, and I'm putting on
(21:54):
a big pro am next year in LA and blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So yeah, and you blew it up on a vander
Pump rules. I think that's the way a lot of
people even learned.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
About it was.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I think that's the reason play.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It was just hilarious and you were just getting all involved.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, you with any of them?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Do you still play with pickleball? Did they ever come
over and play pick a ball with you? Are they
only alas side now?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No? I mean they're always Jack Jack Sign been friends
for for forever and we're still friends. I mean we
had lunch yesterday, a sweetheart and he's he's always been
a friend to me and always be a friend of him.
And Tom Schwartz, Uh and I still talk and I
know that he's now going through a really tough time.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So you guys are cool.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
At least they bumped you out of the press and
they came into the press, so hoad of you.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Now we should thank them for their they're supposed to
they're divorcing or they're separated.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I don't know. I read what you read, but you know,
but but the thing is. I don't want to see
anybody go through anything, and I you know, my heart
goes out to.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Tom and I'm happy for Tom. I honest to god.
He's such a sweet guy and he deserves to be
with someone who values him and not diminishes him.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's so fucked up.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We watch it on camera and there's like, listen, I'm
on a reality show. There's cameras in the room. You're
miked up, and you're diminishing your husband.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
In front of mom.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Okay, listen.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
For the rest. I'm not. I am not, honestly, and
it's Katie is very strong.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
What a strength. I'm a stronger. But I would never
diminish someone. I would never get married, first of all,
let's just put that out there. And if I did,
I would never diminish the poor bastard. I would just
fucking divorce. In which I did.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I married a guy, and seven weeks later, instead of
talking ship, I signed a paper.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Okay, everybody I think does it in their own way.
Arguing with argue with anybody these days, All I'm going
to say is this. I think anytime people break up,
it's it's a sad and sing and I'm sure they're
both going through a really difficult time, honestly, and I
know that I've known them both.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Because you're a big teddy bear. You're softy, and that's
why it's sad for you. I'm like, yes, do you
want my divorce attorney? I got you, boy, I got
you covered. And my divorce attorney over.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah she's really good.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, she's a great divorce attorney.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
By the way, just in case of your future, Yeah,
are you Are you dating?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I'm dating, but I'm not dating, like exclusively anybody. Like
I know there's there's stuff out there that says I am,
but whatever, I'm not. And and right now I'm just
trying to get my feet on the ground, you know.
I'm just trying to figure out life. I'm focused right
now on making sure my my work is providing for
my family and doing that and being there for my kids.
(24:54):
And I'm just dating and figuring things out. Yeah, I
just I think I need to time to really get
my head back to that place. Like you know, this
is it's one thing to go through a breakup. It's
another thing to go through a breakup the way that
I've had to go through a breakup, And I'm not
looking for any sympathy of any sort. I just I
(25:16):
wasn't prepared for this, uh kind of thing. And so
it's a little more intense than you know, sitting in
your house and going through it. You know, you're kind
of it's it's kind of everywhere and everybody is aware.
So it's like you know everybody.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, you worried about that?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I mean because this day and age, everyone googles someone
before they date them, right, it doesn't matter you get googled.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, if that's the case. If that's the case, because.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Sugar and your are you worried that, like you.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
If my dating life is going to be dictated by
by the internet, I'm going to know that I'm gonna
be alone the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
No, are you worried that you might get a certain type?
You might have tract a certain type.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Honestly, my head.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
First it was about you being you are, sugar Daddy,
and I think that everyone was like ooh rnsell, let
me try to get in on that sugar daddy, you know.
And then now these this whole other perceptions being put
out there. Do you think one will outweigh the other?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Do you think people forget about it all. Are you
worried at all.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
About I don't think about that stuff, Honestly, I don't.
I really don't. I just I just try to do
my thing every day. And you know, I'm fifty years old,
Like the internet is. It's a world that I don't understand.
I you know, unfortunately, I just don't. I don't understand
how you know, people just can say anything they want
and just it just pH And so for me, you know,
(26:46):
I feel like when I start dating seriously, I will
that person will not hopefully care about the book. Yeah,
I mean it's just that's tough, you know, you know
I I think at the end of the day, I
I it's so far out of my realm right now,
Like right now, it's really just I have three girls,
(27:07):
and uh, they take up a lot of mine. I mean,
you have a you have a child, so you know,
one child takes up and you're in your full time,
you know, your full time. So you know, I'm sharing custody.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Uh, I don't have anywhere to drop off my kids right.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right, and so I have so I have to balance
a job and making sure that my girls also have
my attention. So right, now there's just I think it's
going to take me a minute. Yeah, because because I
have to Yeah, because I have to kind of balance
all this stuff. I have to balance, Like, Okay, I'm
home for this amount of hours and I can go
to the office and do that. Then I have to
go on a set and and and then I come
(27:44):
home again. And I'm just trying to juggle. And I
think that'll take me a while. And I think it's
going to take me time to get through all this
stuff and and and be okay. And I think, what excuse.
Once I get to that place, then I can Then
then maybe I'll be more concerned about that, like what
are the you know, what are people going to think?
But I don't think I even think that way because
I'm okay, you know, having to balance my responsibilities, which
(28:08):
are every day, you know, full stop to the brim.
We're going to take a quick break. But when we
come back.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You guys talk through an app right now though, because.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Of the court stuff we do, do you you and
I know you do wish it would get to a
better place.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, you guys can communicate hopefully.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, yeah, I mean, listen, we talk about ocean.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And I think it's a good idea for you in
law law to get to a good place, you know,
because I know that you're the mother of your other children.
You guys are in a good place. And you guys
co parents, we always have been. You guys are cool,
you guys, So that's a great place to be for
a child to see their parents be in that happy place.
And then when you want to start dating, it's so
(28:58):
much easier for the new person in your life, for
the children involved that everyone's just in a happy, trusting yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And and and again at the end of the day
that really co parenting is the only focus of mine.
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You guys talk through an app right now though because
of the court stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
We do, do you.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You and I know you do wish it would get
to a better place where you guys can communicate hopefully.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well yeah, I mean, listen, we talk about ocean, you know,
and that's and that's and that's it, and and and honestly,
as long as we're talking about our daughter, and I
mean that's the most important thing. The rest of it's
not to me. The rest of it is what it is,
you know, I think to other people it's more exciting
and important, but to me, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You've never responded to her like, oh my god, why
did you say this about me?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I mean, I'm just you know, she listened, she's she's
a great mother, you know, I'm a great father. And
and and Oceans, in my opinion, very lucky to have
two parents who love her, you know, as much as
we both do. And and at the end of the day, Uh,
you know, that's all I can ask for. I I really,
I can't ask for anything more than that. I you know,
(30:10):
of course, I'm hopeful in the future that you know,
I hope that we'll get to a place of of
being of the co parenting being maybe a little more fluid.
But at the end of the day, you know, we're
co parenting and and and that's that's it. My focus
is Ocean. My focus is not anything else right now.
And in London and Riley obviously that's been my focus
(30:30):
until Ocean was born. So you know, I have three
girls that I have to be responsible to and and
the rest of like the mechanic of it, you know,
don't they're not as you know, I don't. I don't
let them kind of take over as much. And I
think that I think that, I really, you know, I
I just want to be the best co parent I
(30:53):
can be, and and whatever version that is going to
be right now, I support, you know, and I'm going
to let her, you know, if she's not ready to
do more than what we're doing, it's okay, you know.
Like that, Like, Ocean's loved very much by her, and
she's loved very much by me. I mean, her sisters
(31:14):
at home are infatuated. You know. Riley carries Ocean around
like it's her baby. You know. Riley gets mad when
Ocean doesn't want to let go my shirt. Riley will say,
you know, Dad, this isn't fair. I want Ocean. And
I'm like, you gotta let your dad have Ocean for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, I'm like, Riley, you gotta let your
dad have her for a minute. And she's like Dad,
(31:34):
and I'm like trying to give her to it. Somebody's
Ocean's like holding out of my shirt, and I'm like,
just let daddy have her for like two minutes, five minutes,
let me just have a few minutes. And but but
Riley loves being the big sister. She loves playing with her.
And then London, who I really really thought, you know,
because teenagers like they you know, when a new baby comes,
it's like you deal with kind of the weight of attention.
And London did. I did deal with that in the beginning.
(31:55):
London really struggled in the early months of like, well
it's a little bit, it just sleeps and eats, really,
But now Ocean has such a big personality. Now London's like,
I want to hold her, I want to play with her.
So now it's like now it's like they and they
came up with the idea to go to Disneyland, so like,
we want to take Ocean to Disneyland. This will be
so old, that's amazing fun.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, the fact that you have got understanding says a
lot about you. And you're not oblivious to having such
a huge age difference in and siblings that you're recognizing
that this one is an octive teenager.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
She go to do this and this in life, and
here's a two year one year old who's just starting
out in life.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, and you got to separate and define your attention
and how you distribute.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh, that's the most complicated thing because I'm stuck at all.
My kids are three years old still like like London, Riley,
I still look at them as they're three. So I
have a big problem which I've had to address now.
Even my twelve year old has sit downs with me
now where she said the other day and then her
mother Amber called me and he goes, you know, you
need to take London to do different things that you
(32:58):
take with Riley, And I'm like, but she was like
five the other day. How was she twelve? So yeah,
that's the hardest part for me. So now after I
had an emotional The time I had the emotional breakdown
was when we were in the mall and she and
I brought her girlfriend with her and they went to
the mall and or it was a Grover. It was
(33:18):
the mall I forgot where one of the Westfield one
of them, and we go there and I walk in
in London and her girlfriend go, Dad, we're gonna go
to these couple of stores and then we'll be back
in like in thirty minutes. And I go, what, Like,
I've had them attached at my hip anywhere we go,
and I'm like, what do you mean thirty minutes And
she's like and then her girlfriend's like, no, we'll be back.
We have our phones, you can call us. My mom
(33:40):
does it all the time. And I was like, all right,
you go to that store and I'm gonna watch. And
so she goes to the store. It's like six feet
away and I call Amber. I'm like, Amber, what is
going on? And She's like, no, no, this is you
have to let them have their eventdans And I was like,
I put the phone down. I was like bawling, like
in the mall by myself.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So it's hard for her fathers when they have daughters.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
It's a very different thing with boys. Yeah, boy, it's
like very different.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
He's going to football around them and get off, figure
it out, get it together.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
You know. I was like, walk off. Yeah, if I
had a son, and it would be very very different
because I wouldn't be like, Yo, let's go kick in
the backyard and let's go play. But no. So so
that was a big change. So now I'm really good
at because London will come to me and say, Dad,
I want to go I want to go to the mall,
but I really don't want Riley coming. I want to
just be you and I. So I'll say to Riley,
are you cool with the hanging with ocean, and she's like, yeah,
(34:30):
she's like good to go, So I take, I take London.
We go shopping. I help her get whatever she wants
and the clothes for she needs, and then we have
like a great two hours that she comes home and
she's happy. So I've learned. It took a long time.
I was still taking her to do ship that five
year olds.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But I know, you high five for that because that's
really good behavior.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
That's really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I commend you for that.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And people don't realize that about you because they don't
know anything about you. But you love kids, Yeah, love kids,
and you're just a great dad. You're very hands on
and you know that's awesome. And I I hope on
all that negative shit.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Goes out of the way soon because your kids are
getting older.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So that's that's the only part.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
It's bigger and bigger and more accessible to kids, so
I hope that they don't have to see much more.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And I just I do too.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
What would you if you had to say one last
thing that was maybe your takeaway from and it doesn't
have to be just from law law situation, but just
in the last I don't know, ten years, what have
you been, what have you learned, what have you come
across and changed about yourself?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
In general?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Well, uh, I think I'm more patient, you know, I really,
I really I didn't have a lot of patients as
a younger person. You know, I have a lot of
energy naturally, but I think at fifty, I kind of
am more tolerant of things. I think that you know,
if you asked me fifteen years ago and this was happening,
(35:53):
you know, maybe I would have opened my mouth and
not thought first retaliated. Maybe maybe probably I probably would
have been like you know, I probably would have been
like what, you know, I have something to say today.
I think about Ocean, I think about London. I think
about Riley. You know, when it comes to speaking publicly,
you know, everybody makes mistakes and everybody's nobody's perfect. You know,
(36:15):
if if we had to take a magnifying glass to
everybody's life, everybody is is has has faults and it
makes you know, I I at the end of the day,
I you know, I'm moving forward and you know, again
always being a dad that I've been. But I think
I'm more tolerant today and I think that I'm more patient,
(36:36):
and you know, in being understanding more understanding understanding. Yeah,
And I think that I think that life, if you
have your health, you know, you're healthy. You know, there's
a lot of people that don't have that, and we
forget that the little things in life like health and
children and your children's health and your family's health, I
mean family health. I have friends. I have a friend
(36:57):
specifically who's got a child that's very sick, and I
mean the pain and the and the and the sadness
that he has to face daily. It puts like when
I see him, it puts it in perspective because I
I'm like, you know, pray for him, for his for
his child. Uh. And and so you know, we were
(37:19):
given a blessing and you know, unfortunately, uh, you know,
nobody's perfect. And I think that sometimes we think everybody
should be perfect and we have to be forgiving, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Absolutely, because none of us are perfect and we all
and and.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
We all have and and and and we all have
made mistakes, not just you know, you know, not everybody
owns all their mistakes.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
But but that's the thing right.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
There, the issues that everyone's a judge, but not everyone
can take accountability to their own.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
And that's the Internet trolls and all that bullshit that
we deal with.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And this modern day society is just people who just
go on and type some ship up and it just
goes viral and all of a sudden, it's something that
never even exists.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So it's just, yeah, stay woke people.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I don't know how you do it, and I know
that you do it on your show every day, and
I had a very small taste of it, and it
was a large enough taste for me to, you know,
understand that it's a lot like you've been on that
show for how many years?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You're s Shaw's is geez we just a couple of
days ago. It was ten years from the first episode
airing years.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I mean, that's true. I can't imagine the eleven years
of the up and down and by the way it
seems like and if I was to guess, when you
started eleven years ago, the social media press was the
link it is today. It was so you It was
so different back then, right, So.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Today it's very competitive. It's just weird today.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
There's no respect, I think, And that's why I understand,
Like Denzel Washington always says, I'm not going to get
on Instagram because the more exclusive you are, the more
people want you, the more.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
The defend is.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
But literally it's shifting.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
It's more available you are, the more want of you.
Look at Kim Kardashian, she's like twenty times a day.
What she posts, she does twenty times a day if
she posts so much, So there's something.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think I followed.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I think party. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I don't know if I follow her. I don't remember.
But you don't follow Kim k No, I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I can't be friend. Kim is life, everybody life.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
When she was caught fucking range A, not necessarily caught,
but like you know, produced to Chris produced A.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, we know how that happened.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
All that. Hold on, Wait but wait, so but she
posts that much she does.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
She posts a lot. It's turning into I think that's
just what social media.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I don't follow. I don't follow him Kardashians, but I
follow I follow uh Courtney.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Oh, she's the only Kardashian I do.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
That shows you. That shows you how to touch.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Following her because of who she's seeing, now, that's right.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
No, I think I followed her because I knew Scott
you know back in the day, and like and I
and and I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, it was always the least interesting to watch. And
I'm kidding, I'm kidding, You're kidding, no love, But.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
What an amazing empire they've built. I mean that's I mean,
come on, I mean there, I mean get and this
new deal at Hulu, which I'm not even a big.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Kardashian, fills every time I think about it.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
By the way, that trailer they put out was was epic.
I died And I don't even I don't even watch
The Kardashians, like you.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Don't watch the Card. Everybody watches The Kardashians. Everybody watches.
How did you even know who Scott Dizzick was if
you didn't watch The Kardashians.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I went to Coabbo with him, la I did. I
went to him and Sophia Richie.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's how you met him the first No, no, no,
I knew him.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Through like Alex other friends. No other Okay, I'm kidding,
I quit. I quit, Thank you, thanks, thanks you.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Anything else that you would want out there, just you
want to say a lost piece? Is there anything you
want people to look forward to or anything you want.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
To no, I mean just that. You know, I directed
a movie that I've come out in the fall with
Robert to Niro, John Malkovich, and Jack Houston, and it'll
come out in September.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait stop. You gotta
say that very slow because you just named gods. You
just named some gods right now, so can you rename
the people that are in this upcoming film.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Robert de Niro, John Malkovich, Jack Houston, and Quevo from
the Migos.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And when is it coming out?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
September?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
What's it called?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Wash Me in the River?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
All right, everybody's going to have to look out for that.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Thank you, Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
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