December 1, 2022 • 41 mins
GG and Lauren hit it off! Lauren walks GG through her life journey and the struggles she has dealt with due to a rare genetic disease, BUT ultimately how she has been able to overcome all obstacles and truly be UNSTOPPABLE!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Straw Hut Media. Hey y'all, welcome to another episode of
Genuinely Gigi. I am super excited today, as I am
every time I have an episode of Genuinely Gigi. I
connected so well in such a short period of time
in this podcast with Lauren Rutolo, which you guys are
about to meet in a moment. She's just so motivational
(00:25):
and inspirational while dealing with a very difficult hand of
cards that she was dealt. She tells a story about
how a guy she was dating wouldn't even introduce her
to his friends because of the way that she looked.
She deals with a lot physically internally, but mentally and spiritually.
(00:50):
She is as woke as it fucking gets. So I
would love for you guys to stay tuned because this
is going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know her from Shaw of Sunset.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know she doesn't hold back.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
In this Hollywood, you can get canceled for just blinking
the wrong way at the wrong person.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I am always scared and smiling. This is genuinely gig. Everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Please welcome Lauren Ruttlo to the Genuinely GG podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Welcome Lauren, thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Hi Hi everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
How are you? How's everything? You are in New York
right now? Correct?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I am in New York City right now, my home
and where I've lived for Oh god, I'm going to
age myself twenty four years.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Come on, you're young, you're very young.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, yes, yes, I was born here.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You were born there, you grew up in New York.
Your last name is Italian?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It is. I am an actual pizza bagel because my
mom is Jewish and my dad is Italian.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So I Italian Jewish Italian or Catholic Jewish Jewish Italian?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I have a lot of Italian people in my life
for some reason, and they are all Catholics. So yeah,
I don't really know much about Jewish Italians. Is it
a big difference between Jewish.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I don't think that's it's really a big difference at all.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I think it's just a.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Matter of how they talk.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You see, in La we're schwitzing. Over here, we're schwitzing.
It's one hundred and ten over here. So would that
be an Italian Jewish thing or an Italian Catholics thing?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
To say I'm sitting is really a Yiddish word Oh see,
I'm learning. I'm learning, I'm learning. I hope I don't
get canceled for not knowing that.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, you can't get canceled for not knowing Yiddish, even
though the world will probably want to cancel on other
ridiculous things.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
In this Hollywood, you can get canceled for just blinking
the wrong at the wrong person. So I am always
scared and smiling. Hi, hey, Lauren, I am so happy
we have you here today and I get to dive
in a little bit with you. I have I have
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some questions. I've looked into you. I've done my research,
and I've seen that the basis to most of your conversations,
which we will get to so people can understand where
I want to lead this conversation to with you is.
But the base is more so about the difficulties that
you are living with. Can you go ahead and you know,
(03:37):
briefly explain to everyone out there what difficulties you're dealing with?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Sure? So, first of all, I walk with these every day.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And always will walk in some sort of platform or stiletto,
which I think it just sets me apart, because honestly,
I love being said up a part to be honest,
because I love standing out because I think that when
you stand out, people truly react to you, and I
want people to react to me. I want people to
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be happy when they see me, or they you know,
whatever they may say to me. Sometimes it's completely insane.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But otherwise.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I was born with a disease that is called McCune
albright syndrome. It affects your endocrine system as well as
your skeletal system, and so my bones, to just speak blatantly,
my bones deformed at a very early age. They have
what you would call these fibrous dysplasia cysts, and so
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like if you look at an X ray of me,
you'll see like what regular bones would look like, and
then you'll see my bones that kind of go like this,
and that's like kind of like how my hips and
helps look. And that's because of the fibrous dysplasia that is.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
In my bone.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And so ultimately they are assistic. They are filled with blood.
And therefore, because they don't have like a solid grounding eye.
As I gained weight as I was growing older, and
you know, not an absorbent amount of it, just like
your regular weight, my bones kind of collapse and I
broke my first fema bone at the age of eighteen months,
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but even before that, I got my period at nine
months old.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I read that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I was reading that that you got your period at
nine months old and you hit menopause at.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Eight at eight.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Allow all of us to understand this a little bit
because I do a lot of reading about medical stuff
because I have an autoimmune But this is my first
time hearing about a scenario where a child gets their
period at nine months old.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
What does that mean exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Because you're saying you have an issue with your endocrine
and skeletalstem. How does that affect your hormonal balance?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So your skeletal system and your endocrine system are connected.
So have you ever heard that people want to know
like their bone growth. I don't know if you've ever
heard of that, or like, yes, if a child is
growing to they'll take a picture of their hands an
X ray of their hands to see how much.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Growth they have are supposed to have.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So ultimately, your hormones are connected to your bones. So
that's that's really And there's like an enzyme in your
bones and your hormones that are interconnected with each other.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So basically, the.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Reason why I got why I menstruated at the age
of nine months is because your pituitary glant, my pituitary gland,
and my ovaries were not speaking to each other.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
They were like basically in a fight.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Now, petuitary gland and you're over. You're supposed to work
hand in hand. They're supposed to be like a team.
So when you when you pruitary glenn tells you to
drop an egg, you drop an egg. But mine are
kind of like I say, they're in this like hamster wheel,
going against each other. And so I was producing and producing,
producing estrogens, and then when you produce so many estrogens,
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you actually just drop an egg. And so because my
body couldn't regulate itself on its own, it tries to
regulate itself by dropping an egg, which is as you
know when you get your period. Yes, and so that's
ultimately what happened. And you know you're a new mom
to a.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Two year old, right, great?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Correct, Yes, And.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
So imagine if he and the this is not just
a female disease, and males also get it. But you
know males can get early early remonstration in some way
shape of us.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So may I ask if nine months old, were your
parents aware at this time that you had this? So
now here's mom sees her daughter is bleeding from her vagina.
I would I mean, I can't even picture as a mother,
you know, I would freaked out. What happens in a
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situation was that when they were aware? Could they have
known while you were still in the womb? Are there
testings that are done for this when you're pregnant?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Anything? Nothing?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
No, So actually there is no testing for it. Even
though they consider it to be a genetic disease. It's
not detected in any which way. You have to actually
wait for symptoms to occur. So for somebody like me,
symptoms occurred at nine months old, which, as you said,
I had blood.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Coming out of my vagina.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Correct, And no one actually believed my parents the first
time that they took me to the pediatrician, they were
just like, is there pins in your diapers?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Like what are you doing? Like they like blamed it
on my parents.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean I would have thought rape.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I would have immediately thought my daughter's getting raped, you know,
That's what would have gone through my the worst.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, and so thank god that was not the issue.
But my mother actually said to the doctor like, this
looks like a period, and at nine months old, they said,
absolutely not, it can't be. You know, maybe she scratched
herself and there was like constant food coming out. It
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wasn't like as women, we know, we don't just get
our period for one day, especially the first time, and
so you know, it happens over multiple days. And then
it came back ten at ten months. And so when
it came back at ten months, they said, okay, we
believe you. Like it's unbelievable. So they diagnosed me first
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with precocious puberty, which interesting is just really early onset
menstruation for women.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And a lot of females do get it.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
They don't get it at toddler age or you know,
they may get it earlier. And then when you say earlier,
you may get it ten right, right, and that would
be considered early or right whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But not certainly not at nine months old.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
So they immediately put me on medication and injections to
stop that. And then I actually wasn't diagnosed until I.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Broke my fema.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Interesting and when I broke my fema in a pet shop,
I was with my dad and I just slipped in
some order. And I don't know if anybody knows or
your listeners know, but your fema is actually your hardest
bone to break.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yes it is.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
It is what literally keeps you upright. It is the
strongest bone in your body. And it's almost impossible. A
lot of times you never even hear about it breaking on.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, they make jokes like you can drive over it
with an eighteen wheel chuck and the nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
There's so many jokes about that.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yet. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And so when a child breaks their FEMA bone and
you tell them like you weren't in a severe car accident,
or you weren't like hit by something whatever it may be,
or fall down a light of stairs, like you truly
have to have major impact to that area.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I just slept and I broke it.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
And so when they discovered through an X ray that
my bones were fibrous, plus coupled with the fact that
I had early menstruation and I was pre Pubessett, that's
when they diagnosed.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Me interesting and that's when the medications began. That's when
the work began. Is that when they immediately said to you,
you're not going to ever walk what age.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Show you started like that.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So I was actually at eighteen months old, I was
walking and I was running, and I was doing every
everything normally. And then I was put in a body cast.
So like when you're in a body cast for your FEMA,
it's literally like up to here, and it's very different
than a body cast that you would be in today.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
They were I was.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
It was like up to like a knee on one
side and full length on the other side, and then
like right below your breastbone and two holes and that said,
and you're in that, we're.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Going to take a quick break. But when we come back.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I didn't get my period again until I was thirteen,
so then it was kind of like normally.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right, and so but I was fully formed. I was
fully grown at eight Everything was fully formed for me,
and so it really wasn't until my bones just truly
started to weakend that I went from walking regularly to
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a walker to a cane and then ultimately they wanted
me to sit in a wheelchair. And that was about
the time that I turned five years old. And that
was a true pivotal point for me in my life.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Do you remember it? Can you specifically touch?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Don't remember it? And I think that's the good thing
about not remembering it. I remember certain actions and certain
feelings and noises and like it's weird, like I kind
of like like it like to be like tight things
like tight on me.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And I think that's because I was.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Always in bodycast and then I was actually in a
back brace for eight years and so there were just
sensory things that I have that kind of like tipped
me off a little bit. But thank God, you know,
as children, I think this is the best part about
being a child is that you don't remember pain.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You truly don't.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
When you're in that much pain and you're suffering so
much as very very young in age, you don't remember it.
And that's honestly, it's a miracle for you.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yes, when you're born into that, it's a different concept absolutely.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Like you wouldn't want God forbid, if something happened to
your son, you wouldn't want him to remember that same
memory that you do, because I's going to live with
him forever. And so I don't remember it. But it
was a pivotal point and I had a huge voice.
I was like a big brat, you know, like I
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wanted what I wanted. I didn't understand what was happening
for me, just like any five year old, and I
just wanted to play and I wanted to do the
things that my friends were. You know. I also had
a baby sister at that point that was two years
old and she was walking, and we wanted to play together,
and they were just all of these things that I
wanted to do where I didn't see the reason that
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I could not, And people were always telling me you can't, no,
I can't, no, can't now, and so what was happening
to me inside? Like I became a little angry and
I was like, well, no, Like I'm going to do
what I I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
A little rebel.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah right, And thank god I had the proper healthcare,
the supportive family, and a woman by the name of
Carolyn that we found after months and months of searching.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
For proper physical therapist.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And she was like a total badass that didn't take
no for an answer, like she's amazing. If you want to,
you can and you.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Will absolutely love.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
That has now really truly been my attitude, fort.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And you seem to I checked out your social media.
I looked at your Instagram, and I looked at your website,
and you really do have this motivational uh energy to yourself.
You know, you exude self confidence within yourself. And then
I see your Instagram. It's very personal for some people.
(15:55):
If it's not about business, it's personal. And I really
wanted to understand and you through your Instagram and what
you post and the things that you do. I noticed
in one picture. I'm so sorry for saying this, you
do have breasts and I'm trying to understand does that
was that something that grew because you did menstruate at
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nine months old and menopause at eight years old?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
How, how and when did the breasts grow in.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I had breasts before I went through menopause, so I
could have probably worn a bra at the age of
five or six.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Wow, I did. And I had, you know, full cubic
care too.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You had pubic care too. Were you able to get
pregnant at that time? Would you have been able to
get pregnant?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I mean to be honest, thank god nobody did that
to me too.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
But yes, I absolutely could have.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I have not I have decided against pregnancy for my
own own health at this state.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
But yes, I mean, like, if you are menstruating. You
could have a.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Baby, you can have it, but your body, I mean,
I can only imagine. I mean I remember being pregnant.
Our bones are really supporting our entire stomach up. It's
just so heavy. So I can't imagine how the impact
would be on your body.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
That must be.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, and imagine my pelvist is on a ninety degree
angle and so you were alive on your pelvis to
hold that baby up. And so like all of my
organs are kind of like scrushed in like one central
area of my body, and so like I have one
ovary that's like by my kidney, another ovary that's in
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a different position, and so it would be and I've
you know, I wanted to be pregnant, and I thought
that I really wanted to try, but ultimately I would
have to be on bed rest from day one, from
day one, What good is that going to be for
me or for the child? Because if I don't have
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any sense at any kind of mobility, my bones will weaken.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, may I ask, how how can you get pregnant?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well, they took me at a menopause at eight years old.
So I then they gave me injections and new medicine
so I would get my period again because they can
suppress it because it was medicine that Ultimately they thought
that what happened was is that at eight years old,
they said, we want to see if you will men
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straight on your own. It could take up to three years.
We don't even know if it's going to work, okay,
But at that age they were like, we want to
try to take you off the meds. So they put
me on something else and that actually had the opposite effect,
and it put me into menopause.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Now you have an eight year old girl that is crying, yes,
that is.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Having panic attacks, that is sweating in class, and she
has no idea idea her body is reacting in this way.
And so I remember, I do remember physical therapy, and
I had to walk up and down my parents' hallway
like where all the bedrooms were because it was carpeted
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over there and it was safer for me to walk
just like crying and yelling at people and cursing and
not knowing why I had these extremes of emotions. And
so my parents once again took me back to the
doctor and said, there's something going on with her. I
don't know what it is, but she is not the
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Lauren that we knew a month ago. It happened pretty
quickly again similar to how I got my period.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I went into menopause very.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Quickly as well, but by changing of the medicine ultimately
like changing of the guard, they were able to suppress
it again and then gave me medicine to stop that
and then again, like about a year later, we're like, okay,
let's try again, and nothing happened this time. I didn't
go into menopause, but I also didn't get my period.
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I didn't get my period again until I was thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So then it was kind of like normal age. You're
supposed to get your hair any normal exactly right.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And so but I was fully formed. I was fully
grown at eight. Everything was fully formed.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And your height because of your disease is four to two,
but for six with your heels on, because you live
in the Why why do you live in heels?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Is it to challenge what you are dealt with?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Or is it specifically because you just like to be
in heels because you're a bit of a fashion eastuf.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I've seen your Instagram girl, Okay, I see you, I
see you, So what are the heels about?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Tell me, because I know everybody wants to know why
is this woman in double arm crutches sticks with heels?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I know, well A yeah, us. Fashion is totally part
of who I am. My father there was a hairstylist,
or is still a hairstylist. My parents own the hair
salon together. So fashion and beauty was always and listen
like if my friends were wearing it and the world
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was wearing that, I was like, hell, I want to
wear them too, And they just wanted me to wear
orthopedic shoes. Yeah, and if I was five years old
and was going to tell them to basically f off
that I was going to walk with crutches or be
vertical in any which way.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
That I need.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But hell, I was going to wear shoes. You know,
I also have a very small foot.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Do you what size you have to get more? Oh?
Do you have to get them custom made? Or how
do you find heels?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I have gotten custom made shoes before, but I find shoes.
You know. I'm working on a line, so I can
because I believe the hell we all know that size matters.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Size, That's what he said, and so.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Size matters and shoes and size matters and fashion too,
and so I've been you know, because they wanted me
to only wear flats and wear these horrific orthopedic shoes
that I was never going to be caught dead in.
I said, well, I'm I'm going to wear what I want.
Like I, I have the personality and I've always had
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the personality. If you tell me no, I'm going to
have a walk on.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You're going to challenge it. You're a I like me,
I'm the same way. Yeah, stubborn, stubborn, stubborn.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, I'm stubborn, and I'm going to challenge that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And to be honest, the word challenge for me is
different than other people. Y like, I don't see it
as a challenge. You're challenging me. I'm going to say,
this is just it's who I am, and I'm going
to do it no matter what you tell me or not.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let me ask you this, Lauren, because I have rheumatoried
arthritis in forty four of my joindants, okay, especially obviously
fingers niece. Yeah, in the last I would say eight years,
it's attacked my ankles to toes aggressively.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But I'm like you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I love my heels, I love my libatons, and I
have a very narrow foot, so littletons are perfectly made
for me.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yes, they're not made for me, but they're made for you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I'm starting to get all these messages because I
grew a very large following in the autoimmune world based
on my condition. Over the years, I've just been really
trying to address people and give some motivation to that, like,
it's okay, you have the disease, it does not have you.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That was always and everyone would always say to all
my pictures when I'm out with my girlfriends, how do
you manage to have r A and wear high heels.
You must be faking it. You're faking it right, because
it's an invisible disease. But I'll tell you this now, Wow,
if I wear heels since the attack of my lower limbs,
make sure the next three days my fear swellen. I
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can't walk, I'm stiff. Like it's just it's horrible. So
do you get affected? Because I understand the challenge is
different for us than it is for other people. The
concept of challenge is with self. So is that something
that you challenge yourself? With as far as having to
deal with an aftermath of perhaps wearing heels.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Absolutely, you know, there are some hills that I will
wear that will hurt me. And you know, especially the
left side of my body has much more is much
more deformed than my right side. It's basically like I
feel like a lot of times that my body is
like just splitting nap And if I can get a
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whole new left, i'd be in the market for that,
but unfortunately I can't. I don't know, like if I
get swollen. Yes, I know my limits, and I think
that that's what everybody needs to know, no matter if
you have an invisible disease or physical disability, like where
the world can see me and judge me just by
the way that I walk. And honestly, they're probably judging
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you because you're a celebrity and you're on TV, and
they don't believe.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That easily that's enough.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They're just ridiculous human beings to be.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yes, Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're right under You're right under thirty thousand followers on
your social media Instagram. They're definitely reaching out to a
lot of people.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, especially in the rare disease community.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
What do you find within you that you give Where
did you find this source of strength or self confidence?
Because I'm seeing a woman walking with as you call them,
your sticks, your armsticks, right is what you call it,
and then you also wear your high heels your fortune.
You're dealing with a bone disease, that's equippling. How do
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you find the strength? Because we all deal with so
much shit and everyone always says I always say this,
everyone has something wrong with them until we meet someone
who has worse wrong with them than we do. You
either feel grateful for your life at that moment or
you don't. So I see you, and I feel so
grateful that I have what I have, But I see
(26:27):
you that you have something I don't have, which is
a little bit more confidence. So where do you dig
that up from? Where does that come from? Because I
want to stand as tall as you do. How does
that happen?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I think that confidence is something that you have to
work on, and I think.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That I achieved.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I also adopted a voice from my family, and so
everybody from my mom, my dad, my aunts, and like
everybody around me and my cousins, they were all so
conquer it and always said, let's just deal with what
we have to deal with at this moment. The future
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is unknown for every single person, not just for you, Lauren,
and so let's deal with what we have to deal
with today because we don't know what tomorrow and may brain.
And that's how I've always been, And I just think
that on so many levels, Like I personally always had
to psyche myself up. And I think that by me
(27:31):
psyching myself up, if I went to the doctor, psyching
myself up, if I went to a new school, psyching
myself up, because I always knew that people were going
to judge me, they were going to treat me differently.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
A doctor was probably.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Not going to know my disease.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You know. They were always so.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Many times in my life where I had to recreate
the scenario and really showcase who I was if I
wanted to be heard. Yes, And I think that when
you have a rare disease, or you have anything that
is a little bit different, if you really showcase a voice,
(28:11):
you hopefully people will accept you for who you are
because your voice will be louder than the disability. Your
voice will be louder than the pain you're feeling, and
your joints, you know, like, and it's just a matter
of saying, like, if you don't like me, great, I
don't need you in my life. Or you have a
(28:33):
million questions and I would rather people come to me
with questions yes and talk behind my back and say, ah,
oh god, poor girl, she must live a terrible life.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Or you know, like you have no idea what my
life is like. I have no idea what you are
life is like.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
You know, you are just assuming who I am and
my feelings.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yes, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Putting myself out there and I'm walking past you, right,
but you know what, you really have no idea and
ask me like And I just feel like if people
stop treating people like me or like you as like
a patient or like whatever you want to be physical
or mental about you just as the person.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
We're going to take a quick break. But when we
come back, I get.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
To the point where I cry, you know, to my dad,
my mom, and I just say, I'm just tired of
being strong. I'm tired of being strong for people. I
feel like I spent so much of my life on TV,
on social media trying to show everyone that you should
be strong. You know, I actually feel like I deal
(29:48):
with the polar opposite then that because you have a
visible disease, I have an invisible one. So I never
get anyone's empathy.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Because of that.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Because I take care of myself, I make sure I
look good every time I leave the house. It is
my form of masking how much pain I'm dealing with inside,
because I get to the point where I cry, you know,
to my dad, my mom, and I just say, I'm
just tired of being strong. I'm tired of being strong
(30:21):
for people. I feel like I spent so much of
my life on TV, on social media trying to show
everyone that you should be strong, It's okay, you've got it.
And I had to put up that whole facade all
the time too, in order to make people think that
that's how you need to be. And I forgot that
I was dehumanizing myself. No, I was just a walking
(30:47):
drill until I don't know what it was. I think
IVF all those goddamn hormones I was bumping inside of me.
But I realized it's okay that I'm going to say
I can't. I'm in pain today. I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I can't, And I think that That's why I like,
at least on my social media and now that you
can activate your voice and your feelings in different ways,
I really try to show the good and the bad
with always like a certain tone whereas I will get
through this, because this isn't going to be the last
(31:23):
time I need to get through something. But I want
to be hopeful to others that are also feeling the pain,
and all of our pain is going to be very different.
I you know, sometimes I may have similar pain to
you because I have joint pain now because of walking
with crutches.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
For forty years. I saw your post that.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Or you know, like I got a machine yesterday and
I'm like hooked up to this pain.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Is that like one of those things that you get
it like the chiropractor accupuncture for them.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Now now that's.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Inside, it's inside of me. Yeah, I got I just
got this news.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And that's from all of the tension of your sticks
for exactly all your life exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah. And so I have like early onset arthritis in
my neck because I'm going like this, going like this,
going like this forever, and so yes, it's part of
the disease. The disease isn't really giving me the arthritis,
but it's the effects of it, and so I think
that I need to be strong for others. So I'm
(32:28):
stronger for myself too, like because I know, like there
I have sleepless nights. Listen, I have this machine on
me right now because I've been in so much pain
right but I'm not going to let it stop my life.
And that's what I've really learned, because if I let
it affect me in every single day and I'll just
(32:50):
be miserable. I will just be a miserable bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Well, we cannot be miserable bitches, with or without the pain, Lauren, Honey,
we know we can do that.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We're able to do that. Yes, what advice would you
give me, Lauren?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
If I were to say to you, as I was
just saying, like I'm having a hard time being strong
so much for people or publicly, what piece of advice
would you offer me and all those people watching and
listening that need to be the strong one in their
family or have to always keep face in the workplace,
you know, if they're being bullied, what advice would you
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be able to offer.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I think that I would say, be vulnerable when it's necessary,
show people your pain sometimes because it makes you human.
And that's what I think is really important for people,
is that we are all human. We are all human
with different things.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
So you don't know how I feel.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I don't know how you.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Feel, but we all have feelings.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And everybody feels pain sometimes, and everybody feels happy, and
everybody feels sad. This is like a common denominator that
we have. So like, sometimes I have to show that
vulnerability and sometimes I have to slow down. And I
now always thought like you, like, I can't do that
because if I show them that, I'm going to be weak, right,
(34:11):
and I don't want to be weak. Well, I've changed
my tune because I've accepted myself more. I think that
you have to come to acceptance. Acceptance is really big important.
I don't care what you're going through. Even if you're
not going through anything, you still have to accept yourself for.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Who Absolutely, even in the twelve steps and the rule
number step one is you know, admitting there is an issue.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
They say, that's the concept of acceptance, that's the concept
you know.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I don't want to there were I mean, I could
tell you stories of I didn't want to accept myself
in dating. Yeah, because I was like, oh my god,
the boys, they're not going to want to date me.
They're going to be insecure that I, you know, walk
with crutches, that I'm sure I'm going to stand out
to them and trust me.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
People have said that to me, hoble.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Human beings have said that I have gone out with
says I can't date you because people are looking at
us in a different way.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
They have said that to you.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh, yes, yes they have.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I dated somebody for almost a decade, and like the
first fifteen months I didn't really meet any of his friends.
And he I said, why don't I meet your friends?
And he was like, oh, well you will, you will,
you will. I said, no, why haven't I met your friends?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Man, like, you're basically here all the time. You have
met all of my friends. Why aren't we doing things?
He was like, well, I don't want them to think
differently of you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Oh, you should be so grateful. You should be so
grateful for motherfuckers like that.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Honestly, they're just showing who the fuck they are early on.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Be grateful for that.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
No, exactly, And I change my mindset, and you know what,
on my dating profile Here, I am here?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Are you loud here?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I am?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You're everywhere too?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, I'm everywhere. And if you can't deal with that,
then yeah, fuck off.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I don't want to be with you, but like, I
think that that's accept and humanize who you are because
people need to see both sides.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They do, they do.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
You can always you know your ending, can always try
to be putting, giving yourself a lesson, giving people a lesson,
but they need to see who you are. And I
hate when people now like they don't ever showcase who
they are, and they don't and others don't think that
you can have multiple emotions. Absolutely can, right, and you
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should show them to the world because you're going to
be more respected and they're going to say, you know what,
Jiji's a real person.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I try thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I appreciate you saying that because I hear you and
that gives me a lot of motivation, and I hope
it motivates a lot of other people in understanding that.
It really is a lot about acceptance. Acceptance is a key.
It's a pivotal turning moment to any type of transformation
and change in any dynamic. When you don't like the situation,
(37:06):
you must first accept the situation is. It is what
it is. Now let's do something first.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Exception, I have enough integrity to either get out of it,
to show people exactly and that's what you have to ask.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Just a terrible job.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
And I left because I had too much integrity for
myself to stand there and be bullied, to stand there
and say you're not good enough, Lauren, or you need
to change this. No and no again. F you. You
don't like me, you don't like what I'm doing, That's fine.
I've had many more challenges in my life. I don't
(37:41):
need to do this.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Well, girl, listen. I will be in New York in October.
I'm I know a little. New York is a legalized
state for weed and it helps a lot with inflammation
and pain. And I don't know if you're a pothead focker,
but when I'm there in October, we can do a
little puff puff and just just say fuck everybody.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I would love to do a little pup pup with you.
I totally believe in it and I have all everything
from creams to gummies.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, but you know what it can do because it
is a cannabis is it helps a lot in our minds.
It's just it does do a lot for inflammation. I know,
it doesn't do what you want. It took me a
long time. It took me a really long time to
see any effects from cannabis. It's a natural source, you know.
But I was really forced into it by my mother.
(38:32):
It's crazy to say I went to rehab in two
thousand and five. You know, I kicked coke and weed
back then. And my mom's here like twenty years later
telling me, go too, doctor for cannabis is so good
for the inflammation.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So I'm like, Mom, you want me to be a pothead.
So I did, and it took me a long time.
I tell you, a quick shot of chemo my stomach
that I do every week is a lot faster, a
lot more, you know, affects the pain a lot faster.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
But I deal with the side effects of.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
All my medications, which I'm sure you understand as well.
It's a lot of side effects to all this stuff
we take. But we have to do what we have
to do. And I would love if I would never ever.
I don't see anything different about you. I think when
you get to see someone's soul. All you see from
the outside is just what radiates from within. So I'm
(39:27):
sorry you've had to deal with any douchebags. I will
be more than happy to fucking tell all your little
trolls to fuck off.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Okay, thank you? Yeah, So I would love to meet
you in oct I'll.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Be in the r Adore that Yeah, walk together.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Absolutely, I would love that.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I'm gonna be launching my sex toys intimately Gigi at
the Museum of Sex while I'm out there, So I
would love for you to come. Yeah, we can have
a little shy Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yes, let's do it. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh, Lauren, thank you so much. Where can people find
you and read more about you and get inspired by
you the way I've been?
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Sure, So my book is entitled Unstoppable and Stilettos.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Of course it is, of course right stop as she is.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yes, my Instagram is just at Lauren Rotolo, Twitter at
Lauren Rotolo, LinkedIn whatever you just here I am with
my name and then Laurenrotolo dot net is my website
where you can see me walking, see me talking, see
just how I live.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Seeing you thrive is what people will see. Thank you
so much. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I really appreciate you being here. It means a lot.
Thank you, Lauren.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Thank you. I can't wait to see you in October.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yes, I'll see you in October.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I'm going to actually get your number and from Ryan
right now and I'm gonna text you.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I would love to see you.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Ah, thank you. I'd love to see you too.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
You're contagious and I feel like we just have like.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That inner feeling. We are so similar, and I mean
you can teach us, girl.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I love the Midnight Ride. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
It's like one hundred and ten over here. So I'm
trying to just and I'm in boxes because I'm moving.
All they pulled was the top of whatever is at
the top of the box. And just I'm so happy
you like it. I did right by a fashion easta.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You did, You're did? I love it all right?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Thank you, mar Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It was an honor to be on your show.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Absolutely, thank you for being here. Thanks for listening to
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Straw Hut Media. Hey y'all, welcome to another episode of
Genuinely Gigi. I am super excited today, as I am
every time I have an episode of Genuinely Gigi. I
connected so well in such a short period of time
in this podcast with Lauren Rutolo, which you guys are
about to meet in a moment. She's just so motivational
(00:25):
and inspirational while dealing with a very difficult hand of
cards that she was dealt. She tells a story about
how a guy she was dating wouldn't even introduce her
to his friends because of the way that she looked.
She deals with a lot physically internally, but mentally and spiritually.
(00:50):
She is as woke as it fucking gets. So I
would love for you guys to stay tuned because this
is going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know her from Shaw of Sunset.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know she doesn't hold back.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
In this Hollywood, you can get canceled for just blinking
the wrong way at the wrong person.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I am always scared and smiling. This is genuinely gig. Everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Please welcome Lauren Ruttlo to the Genuinely GG podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Welcome Lauren, thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Hi Hi everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
How are you? How's everything? You are in New York
right now? Correct?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I am in New York City right now, my home
and where I've lived for Oh god, I'm going to
age myself twenty four years.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Come on, you're young, you're very young.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, yes, yes, I was born here.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You were born there, you grew up in New York.
Your last name is Italian?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It is. I am an actual pizza bagel because my
mom is Jewish and my dad is Italian.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So I Italian Jewish Italian or Catholic Jewish Jewish Italian?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I have a lot of Italian people in my life
for some reason, and they are all Catholics. So yeah,
I don't really know much about Jewish Italians. Is it
a big difference between Jewish.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I don't think that's it's really a big difference at all.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I think it's just a.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Matter of how they talk.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You see, in La we're schwitzing. Over here, we're schwitzing.
It's one hundred and ten over here. So would that
be an Italian Jewish thing or an Italian Catholics thing?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
To say I'm sitting is really a Yiddish word Oh see,
I'm learning. I'm learning, I'm learning. I hope I don't
get canceled for not knowing that.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, you can't get canceled for not knowing Yiddish, even
though the world will probably want to cancel on other
ridiculous things.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
In this Hollywood, you can get canceled for just blinking
the wrong at the wrong person. So I am always
scared and smiling. Hi, hey, Lauren, I am so happy
we have you here today and I get to dive
in a little bit with you. I have I have
(03:16):
some questions. I've looked into you. I've done my research,
and I've seen that the basis to most of your conversations,
which we will get to so people can understand where
I want to lead this conversation to with you is.
But the base is more so about the difficulties that
you are living with. Can you go ahead and you know,
(03:37):
briefly explain to everyone out there what difficulties you're dealing with?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Sure? So, first of all, I walk with these every day.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And always will walk in some sort of platform or stiletto,
which I think it just sets me apart, because honestly,
I love being said up a part to be honest,
because I love standing out because I think that when
you stand out, people truly react to you, and I
want people to react to me. I want people to
(04:09):
be happy when they see me, or they you know,
whatever they may say to me. Sometimes it's completely insane.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But otherwise.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I was born with a disease that is called McCune
albright syndrome. It affects your endocrine system as well as
your skeletal system, and so my bones, to just speak blatantly,
my bones deformed at a very early age. They have
what you would call these fibrous dysplasia cysts, and so
(04:41):
like if you look at an X ray of me,
you'll see like what regular bones would look like, and
then you'll see my bones that kind of go like this,
and that's like kind of like how my hips and
helps look. And that's because of the fibrous dysplasia that is.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
In my bone.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And so ultimately they are assistic. They are filled with blood.
And therefore, because they don't have like a solid grounding eye.
As I gained weight as I was growing older, and
you know, not an absorbent amount of it, just like
your regular weight, my bones kind of collapse and I
broke my first fema bone at the age of eighteen months,
(05:23):
but even before that, I got my period at nine
months old.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I read that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I was reading that that you got your period at
nine months old and you hit menopause at.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Eight at eight.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Allow all of us to understand this a little bit
because I do a lot of reading about medical stuff
because I have an autoimmune But this is my first
time hearing about a scenario where a child gets their
period at nine months old.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
What does that mean exactly?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Because you're saying you have an issue with your endocrine
and skeletalstem. How does that affect your hormonal balance?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So your skeletal system and your endocrine system are connected.
So have you ever heard that people want to know
like their bone growth. I don't know if you've ever
heard of that, or like, yes, if a child is
growing to they'll take a picture of their hands an
X ray of their hands to see how much.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Growth they have are supposed to have.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So ultimately, your hormones are connected to your bones. So
that's that's really And there's like an enzyme in your
bones and your hormones that are interconnected with each other.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So basically, the.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Reason why I got why I menstruated at the age
of nine months is because your pituitary glant, my pituitary gland,
and my ovaries were not speaking to each other.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
They were like basically in a fight.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Now, petuitary gland and you're over. You're supposed to work
hand in hand. They're supposed to be like a team.
So when you when you pruitary glenn tells you to
drop an egg, you drop an egg. But mine are
kind of like I say, they're in this like hamster wheel,
going against each other. And so I was producing and producing,
producing estrogens, and then when you produce so many estrogens,
(07:14):
you actually just drop an egg. And so because my
body couldn't regulate itself on its own, it tries to
regulate itself by dropping an egg, which is as you
know when you get your period. Yes, and so that's
ultimately what happened. And you know you're a new mom
to a.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Two year old, right, great?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Correct, Yes, And.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
So imagine if he and the this is not just
a female disease, and males also get it. But you
know males can get early early remonstration in some way
shape of us.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So may I ask if nine months old, were your
parents aware at this time that you had this? So
now here's mom sees her daughter is bleeding from her vagina.
I would I mean, I can't even picture as a mother,
you know, I would freaked out. What happens in a
(08:08):
situation was that when they were aware? Could they have
known while you were still in the womb? Are there
testings that are done for this when you're pregnant?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Anything? Nothing?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
No, So actually there is no testing for it. Even
though they consider it to be a genetic disease. It's
not detected in any which way. You have to actually
wait for symptoms to occur. So for somebody like me,
symptoms occurred at nine months old, which, as you said,
I had blood.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Coming out of my vagina.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Correct, And no one actually believed my parents the first
time that they took me to the pediatrician, they were
just like, is there pins in your diapers?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Like what are you doing? Like they like blamed it
on my parents.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean I would have thought rape.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I would have immediately thought my daughter's getting raped, you know,
That's what would have gone through my the worst.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, and so thank god that was not the issue.
But my mother actually said to the doctor like, this
looks like a period, and at nine months old, they said,
absolutely not, it can't be. You know, maybe she scratched
herself and there was like constant food coming out. It
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wasn't like as women, we know, we don't just get
our period for one day, especially the first time, and
so you know, it happens over multiple days. And then
it came back ten at ten months. And so when
it came back at ten months, they said, okay, we
believe you. Like it's unbelievable. So they diagnosed me first
(09:43):
with precocious puberty, which interesting is just really early onset
menstruation for women.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And a lot of females do get it.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
They don't get it at toddler age or you know,
they may get it earlier. And then when you say earlier,
you may get it ten right, right, and that would
be considered early or right whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But not certainly not at nine months old.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
So they immediately put me on medication and injections to
stop that. And then I actually wasn't diagnosed until I.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Broke my fema.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Interesting and when I broke my fema in a pet shop,
I was with my dad and I just slipped in
some order. And I don't know if anybody knows or
your listeners know, but your fema is actually your hardest
bone to break.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yes it is.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
It is what literally keeps you upright. It is the
strongest bone in your body. And it's almost impossible. A
lot of times you never even hear about it breaking on.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, they make jokes like you can drive over it
with an eighteen wheel chuck and the nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
There's so many jokes about that.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yet. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And so when a child breaks their FEMA bone and
you tell them like you weren't in a severe car accident,
or you weren't like hit by something whatever it may be,
or fall down a light of stairs, like you truly
have to have major impact to that area.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I just slept and I broke it.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
And so when they discovered through an X ray that
my bones were fibrous, plus coupled with the fact that
I had early menstruation and I was pre Pubessett, that's
when they diagnosed.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Me interesting and that's when the medications began. That's when
the work began. Is that when they immediately said to you,
you're not going to ever walk what age.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Show you started like that.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So I was actually at eighteen months old, I was
walking and I was running, and I was doing every
everything normally. And then I was put in a body cast.
So like when you're in a body cast for your FEMA,
it's literally like up to here, and it's very different
than a body cast that you would be in today.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
They were I was.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
It was like up to like a knee on one
side and full length on the other side, and then
like right below your breastbone and two holes and that said,
and you're in that, we're.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Going to take a quick break. But when we come back.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I didn't get my period again until I was thirteen,
so then it was kind of like normally.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right, and so but I was fully formed. I was
fully grown at eight Everything was fully formed for me,
and so it really wasn't until my bones just truly
started to weakend that I went from walking regularly to
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a walker to a cane and then ultimately they wanted
me to sit in a wheelchair. And that was about
the time that I turned five years old. And that
was a true pivotal point for me in my life.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Do you remember it? Can you specifically touch?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Don't remember it? And I think that's the good thing
about not remembering it. I remember certain actions and certain
feelings and noises and like it's weird, like I kind
of like like it like to be like tight things
like tight on me.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And I think that's because I was.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Always in bodycast and then I was actually in a
back brace for eight years and so there were just
sensory things that I have that kind of like tipped
me off a little bit. But thank God, you know,
as children, I think this is the best part about
being a child is that you don't remember pain.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You truly don't.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
When you're in that much pain and you're suffering so
much as very very young in age, you don't remember it.
And that's honestly, it's a miracle for you.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yes, when you're born into that, it's a different concept absolutely.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Like you wouldn't want God forbid, if something happened to
your son, you wouldn't want him to remember that same
memory that you do, because I's going to live with
him forever. And so I don't remember it. But it
was a pivotal point and I had a huge voice.
I was like a big brat, you know, like I
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wanted what I wanted. I didn't understand what was happening
for me, just like any five year old, and I
just wanted to play and I wanted to do the
things that my friends were. You know. I also had
a baby sister at that point that was two years
old and she was walking, and we wanted to play together,
and they were just all of these things that I
wanted to do where I didn't see the reason that
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I could not, And people were always telling me you can't, no,
I can't, no, can't now, and so what was happening
to me inside? Like I became a little angry and
I was like, well, no, Like I'm going to do
what I I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
A little rebel.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah right, And thank god I had the proper healthcare,
the supportive family, and a woman by the name of
Carolyn that we found after months and months of searching.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
For proper physical therapist.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And she was like a total badass that didn't take
no for an answer, like she's amazing. If you want to,
you can and you.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Will absolutely love.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
That has now really truly been my attitude, fort.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And you seem to I checked out your social media.
I looked at your Instagram, and I looked at your website,
and you really do have this motivational uh energy to yourself.
You know, you exude self confidence within yourself. And then
I see your Instagram. It's very personal for some people.
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If it's not about business, it's personal. And I really
wanted to understand and you through your Instagram and what
you post and the things that you do. I noticed
in one picture. I'm so sorry for saying this, you
do have breasts and I'm trying to understand does that
was that something that grew because you did menstruate at
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nine months old and menopause at eight years old?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
How, how and when did the breasts grow in.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I had breasts before I went through menopause, so I
could have probably worn a bra at the age of
five or six.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Wow, I did. And I had, you know, full cubic
care too.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You had pubic care too. Were you able to get
pregnant at that time? Would you have been able to
get pregnant?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I mean to be honest, thank god nobody did that
to me too.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
But yes, I absolutely could have.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I have not I have decided against pregnancy for my
own own health at this state.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
But yes, I mean, like, if you are menstruating. You
could have a.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Baby, you can have it, but your body, I mean,
I can only imagine. I mean I remember being pregnant.
Our bones are really supporting our entire stomach up. It's
just so heavy. So I can't imagine how the impact
would be on your body.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
That must be.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, and imagine my pelvist is on a ninety degree
angle and so you were alive on your pelvis to
hold that baby up. And so like all of my
organs are kind of like scrushed in like one central
area of my body, and so like I have one
ovary that's like by my kidney, another ovary that's in
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a different position, and so it would be and I've
you know, I wanted to be pregnant, and I thought
that I really wanted to try, but ultimately I would
have to be on bed rest from day one, from
day one, What good is that going to be for
me or for the child? Because if I don't have
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any sense at any kind of mobility, my bones will weaken.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Well, may I ask, how how can you get pregnant?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well, they took me at a menopause at eight years old.
So I then they gave me injections and new medicine
so I would get my period again because they can
suppress it because it was medicine that Ultimately they thought
that what happened was is that at eight years old,
they said, we want to see if you will men
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straight on your own. It could take up to three years.
We don't even know if it's going to work, okay,
But at that age they were like, we want to
try to take you off the meds. So they put
me on something else and that actually had the opposite effect,
and it put me into menopause.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Now you have an eight year old girl that is crying, yes,
that is.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Having panic attacks, that is sweating in class, and she
has no idea idea her body is reacting in this way.
And so I remember, I do remember physical therapy, and
I had to walk up and down my parents' hallway
like where all the bedrooms were because it was carpeted
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over there and it was safer for me to walk
just like crying and yelling at people and cursing and
not knowing why I had these extremes of emotions. And
so my parents once again took me back to the
doctor and said, there's something going on with her. I
don't know what it is, but she is not the
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Lauren that we knew a month ago. It happened pretty
quickly again similar to how I got my period.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I went into menopause very.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Quickly as well, but by changing of the medicine ultimately
like changing of the guard, they were able to suppress
it again and then gave me medicine to stop that
and then again, like about a year later, we're like, okay,
let's try again, and nothing happened this time. I didn't
go into menopause, but I also didn't get my period.
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I didn't get my period again until I was thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So then it was kind of like normal age. You're
supposed to get your hair any normal exactly right.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And so but I was fully formed. I was fully
grown at eight. Everything was fully formed.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And your height because of your disease is four to two,
but for six with your heels on, because you live
in the Why why do you live in heels?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Is it to challenge what you are dealt with?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Or is it specifically because you just like to be
in heels because you're a bit of a fashion eastuf.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I've seen your Instagram girl, Okay, I see you, I
see you, So what are the heels about?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Tell me, because I know everybody wants to know why
is this woman in double arm crutches sticks with heels?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I know, well A yeah, us. Fashion is totally part
of who I am. My father there was a hairstylist,
or is still a hairstylist. My parents own the hair
salon together. So fashion and beauty was always and listen
like if my friends were wearing it and the world
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was wearing that, I was like, hell, I want to
wear them too, And they just wanted me to wear
orthopedic shoes. Yeah, and if I was five years old
and was going to tell them to basically f off
that I was going to walk with crutches or be
vertical in any which way.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
That I need.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But hell, I was going to wear shoes. You know,
I also have a very small foot.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Do you what size you have to get more? Oh?
Do you have to get them custom made? Or how
do you find heels?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I have gotten custom made shoes before, but I find shoes.
You know. I'm working on a line, so I can
because I believe the hell we all know that size matters.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Size, That's what he said, and so.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Size matters and shoes and size matters and fashion too,
and so I've been you know, because they wanted me
to only wear flats and wear these horrific orthopedic shoes
that I was never going to be caught dead in.
I said, well, I'm I'm going to wear what I want.
Like I, I have the personality and I've always had
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the personality. If you tell me no, I'm going to
have a walk on.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You're going to challenge it. You're a I like me,
I'm the same way. Yeah, stubborn, stubborn, stubborn.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, I'm stubborn, and I'm going to challenge that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And to be honest, the word challenge for me is
different than other people. Y like, I don't see it
as a challenge. You're challenging me. I'm going to say,
this is just it's who I am, and I'm going
to do it no matter what you tell me or not.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Let me ask you this, Lauren, because I have rheumatoried
arthritis in forty four of my joindants, okay, especially obviously
fingers niece. Yeah, in the last I would say eight years,
it's attacked my ankles to toes aggressively.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But I'm like you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I love my heels, I love my libatons, and I
have a very narrow foot, so littletons are perfectly made
for me.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yes, they're not made for me, but they're made for you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But I'm starting to get all these messages because I
grew a very large following in the autoimmune world based
on my condition. Over the years, I've just been really
trying to address people and give some motivation to that, like,
it's okay, you have the disease, it does not have you.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
That was always and everyone would always say to all
my pictures when I'm out with my girlfriends, how do
you manage to have r A and wear high heels.
You must be faking it. You're faking it right, because
it's an invisible disease. But I'll tell you this now, Wow,
if I wear heels since the attack of my lower limbs,
make sure the next three days my fear swellen. I
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can't walk, I'm stiff. Like it's just it's horrible. So
do you get affected? Because I understand the challenge is
different for us than it is for other people. The
concept of challenge is with self. So is that something
that you challenge yourself? With as far as having to
deal with an aftermath of perhaps wearing heels.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Absolutely, you know, there are some hills that I will
wear that will hurt me. And you know, especially the
left side of my body has much more is much
more deformed than my right side. It's basically like I
feel like a lot of times that my body is
like just splitting nap And if I can get a
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whole new left, i'd be in the market for that,
but unfortunately I can't. I don't know, like if I
get swollen. Yes, I know my limits, and I think
that that's what everybody needs to know, no matter if
you have an invisible disease or physical disability, like where
the world can see me and judge me just by
the way that I walk. And honestly, they're probably judging
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you because you're a celebrity and you're on TV, and
they don't believe.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That easily that's enough.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They're just ridiculous human beings to be.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yes, Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're right under You're right under thirty thousand followers on
your social media Instagram. They're definitely reaching out to a
lot of people.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, especially in the rare disease community.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
What do you find within you that you give Where
did you find this source of strength or self confidence?
Because I'm seeing a woman walking with as you call them,
your sticks, your armsticks, right is what you call it,
and then you also wear your high heels your fortune.
You're dealing with a bone disease, that's equippling. How do
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you find the strength? Because we all deal with so
much shit and everyone always says I always say this,
everyone has something wrong with them until we meet someone
who has worse wrong with them than we do. You
either feel grateful for your life at that moment or
you don't. So I see you, and I feel so
grateful that I have what I have, But I see
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you that you have something I don't have, which is
a little bit more confidence. So where do you dig
that up from? Where does that come from? Because I
want to stand as tall as you do. How does
that happen?
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I think that confidence is something that you have to
work on, and I think.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
That I achieved.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I also adopted a voice from my family, and so
everybody from my mom, my dad, my aunts, and like
everybody around me and my cousins, they were all so
conquer it and always said, let's just deal with what
we have to deal with at this moment. The future
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is unknown for every single person, not just for you, Lauren,
and so let's deal with what we have to deal
with today because we don't know what tomorrow and may brain.
And that's how I've always been, And I just think
that on so many levels, Like I personally always had
to psyche myself up. And I think that by me
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psyching myself up, if I went to the doctor, psyching
myself up, if I went to a new school, psyching
myself up, because I always knew that people were going
to judge me, they were going to treat me differently.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
A doctor was probably.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Not going to know my disease.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You know. They were always so.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Many times in my life where I had to recreate
the scenario and really showcase who I was if I
wanted to be heard. Yes, And I think that when
you have a rare disease, or you have anything that
is a little bit different, if you really showcase a voice,
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you hopefully people will accept you for who you are
because your voice will be louder than the disability. Your
voice will be louder than the pain you're feeling, and
your joints, you know, like, and it's just a matter
of saying, like, if you don't like me, great, I
don't need you in my life. Or you have a
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million questions and I would rather people come to me
with questions yes and talk behind my back and say, ah,
oh god, poor girl, she must live a terrible life.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Or you know, like you have no idea what my
life is like. I have no idea what you are
life is like.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
You know, you are just assuming who I am and
my feelings.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yes, because I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Putting myself out there and I'm walking past you, right,
but you know what, you really have no idea and
ask me like And I just feel like if people
stop treating people like me or like you as like
a patient or like whatever you want to be physical
or mental about you just as the person.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
We're going to take a quick break. But when we
come back, I get.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
To the point where I cry, you know, to my dad,
my mom, and I just say, I'm just tired of
being strong. I'm tired of being strong for people. I
feel like I spent so much of my life on TV,
on social media trying to show everyone that you should
be strong. You know, I actually feel like I deal
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with the polar opposite then that because you have a
visible disease, I have an invisible one. So I never
get anyone's empathy.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Because of that.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Because I take care of myself, I make sure I
look good every time I leave the house. It is
my form of masking how much pain I'm dealing with inside,
because I get to the point where I cry, you know,
to my dad, my mom, and I just say, I'm
just tired of being strong. I'm tired of being strong
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for people. I feel like I spent so much of
my life on TV, on social media trying to show
everyone that you should be strong, It's okay, you've got it.
And I had to put up that whole facade all
the time too, in order to make people think that
that's how you need to be. And I forgot that
I was dehumanizing myself. No, I was just a walking
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drill until I don't know what it was. I think
IVF all those goddamn hormones I was bumping inside of me.
But I realized it's okay that I'm going to say
I can't. I'm in pain today. I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I can't, And I think that That's why I like,
at least on my social media and now that you
can activate your voice and your feelings in different ways,
I really try to show the good and the bad
with always like a certain tone whereas I will get
through this, because this isn't going to be the last
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time I need to get through something. But I want
to be hopeful to others that are also feeling the pain,
and all of our pain is going to be very different.
I you know, sometimes I may have similar pain to
you because I have joint pain now because of walking
with crutches.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
For forty years. I saw your post that.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Or you know, like I got a machine yesterday and
I'm like hooked up to this pain.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Is that like one of those things that you get
it like the chiropractor accupuncture for them.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Now now that's.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Inside, it's inside of me. Yeah, I got I just
got this news.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And that's from all of the tension of your sticks
for exactly all your life exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah. And so I have like early onset arthritis in
my neck because I'm going like this, going like this,
going like this forever, and so yes, it's part of
the disease. The disease isn't really giving me the arthritis,
but it's the effects of it, and so I think
that I need to be strong for others. So I'm
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stronger for myself too, like because I know, like there
I have sleepless nights. Listen, I have this machine on
me right now because I've been in so much pain
right but I'm not going to let it stop my life.
And that's what I've really learned, because if I let
it affect me in every single day and I'll just
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be miserable. I will just be a miserable bitch.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Well, we cannot be miserable bitches, with or without the pain, Lauren, Honey,
we know we can do that.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We're able to do that. Yes, what advice would you
give me, Lauren?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
If I were to say to you, as I was
just saying, like I'm having a hard time being strong
so much for people or publicly, what piece of advice
would you offer me and all those people watching and
listening that need to be the strong one in their
family or have to always keep face in the workplace,
you know, if they're being bullied, what advice would you
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be able to offer.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I think that I would say, be vulnerable when it's necessary,
show people your pain sometimes because it makes you human.
And that's what I think is really important for people,
is that we are all human. We are all human
with different things.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
So you don't know how I feel.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I don't know how you.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Feel, but we all have feelings.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And everybody feels pain sometimes, and everybody feels happy, and
everybody feels sad. This is like a common denominator that
we have. So like, sometimes I have to show that
vulnerability and sometimes I have to slow down. And I
now always thought like you, like, I can't do that
because if I show them that, I'm going to be weak, right,
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and I don't want to be weak. Well, I've changed
my tune because I've accepted myself more. I think that
you have to come to acceptance. Acceptance is really big important.
I don't care what you're going through. Even if you're
not going through anything, you still have to accept yourself for.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Who Absolutely, even in the twelve steps and the rule
number step one is you know, admitting there is an issue.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
They say, that's the concept of acceptance, that's the concept
you know.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I don't want to there were I mean, I could
tell you stories of I didn't want to accept myself
in dating. Yeah, because I was like, oh my god,
the boys, they're not going to want to date me.
They're going to be insecure that I, you know, walk
with crutches, that I'm sure I'm going to stand out
to them and trust me.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
People have said that to me, hoble.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Human beings have said that I have gone out with
says I can't date you because people are looking at
us in a different way.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
They have said that to you.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Oh, yes, yes they have.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
No.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I dated somebody for almost a decade, and like the
first fifteen months I didn't really meet any of his friends.
And he I said, why don't I meet your friends?
And he was like, oh, well you will, you will,
you will. I said, no, why haven't I met your friends?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Man, like, you're basically here all the time. You have
met all of my friends. Why aren't we doing things?
He was like, well, I don't want them to think
differently of you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Oh, you should be so grateful. You should be so
grateful for motherfuckers like that.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Honestly, they're just showing who the fuck they are early on.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Be grateful for that.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
No, exactly, And I change my mindset, and you know what,
on my dating profile Here, I am here?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Are you loud here?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I am?
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You're everywhere too?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, I'm everywhere. And if you can't deal with that,
then yeah, fuck off.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I don't want to be with you, but like, I
think that that's accept and humanize who you are because
people need to see both sides.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They do, they do.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
You can always you know your ending, can always try
to be putting, giving yourself a lesson, giving people a lesson,
but they need to see who you are. And I
hate when people now like they don't ever showcase who
they are, and they don't and others don't think that
you can have multiple emotions. Absolutely can, right, and you
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should show them to the world because you're going to
be more respected and they're going to say, you know what,
Jiji's a real person.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I try thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I appreciate you saying that because I hear you and
that gives me a lot of motivation, and I hope
it motivates a lot of other people in understanding that.
It really is a lot about acceptance. Acceptance is a key.
It's a pivotal turning moment to any type of transformation
and change in any dynamic. When you don't like the situation,
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you must first accept the situation is. It is what
it is. Now let's do something first.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Exception, I have enough integrity to either get out of it,
to show people exactly and that's what you have to ask.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Just a terrible job.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
And I left because I had too much integrity for
myself to stand there and be bullied, to stand there
and say you're not good enough, Lauren, or you need
to change this. No and no again. F you. You
don't like me, you don't like what I'm doing, That's fine.
I've had many more challenges in my life. I don't
(37:41):
need to do this.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Well, girl, listen. I will be in New York in October.
I'm I know a little. New York is a legalized
state for weed and it helps a lot with inflammation
and pain. And I don't know if you're a pothead focker,
but when I'm there in October, we can do a
little puff puff and just just say fuck everybody.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I would love to do a little pup pup with you.
I totally believe in it and I have all everything
from creams to gummies.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, but you know what it can do because it
is a cannabis is it helps a lot in our minds.
It's just it does do a lot for inflammation. I know,
it doesn't do what you want. It took me a
long time. It took me a really long time to
see any effects from cannabis. It's a natural source, you know.
But I was really forced into it by my mother.
(38:32):
It's crazy to say I went to rehab in two
thousand and five. You know, I kicked coke and weed
back then. And my mom's here like twenty years later
telling me, go too, doctor for cannabis is so good
for the inflammation.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So I'm like, Mom, you want me to be a pothead.
So I did, and it took me a long time.
I tell you, a quick shot of chemo my stomach
that I do every week is a lot faster, a
lot more, you know, affects the pain a lot faster.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
But I deal with the side effects of.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
All my medications, which I'm sure you understand as well.
It's a lot of side effects to all this stuff
we take. But we have to do what we have
to do. And I would love if I would never ever.
I don't see anything different about you. I think when
you get to see someone's soul. All you see from
the outside is just what radiates from within. So I'm
(39:27):
sorry you've had to deal with any douchebags. I will
be more than happy to fucking tell all your little
trolls to fuck off.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Okay, thank you? Yeah, So I would love to meet
you in oct I'll.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Be in the r Adore that Yeah, walk together.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Absolutely, I would love that.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I'm gonna be launching my sex toys intimately Gigi at
the Museum of Sex while I'm out there, So I
would love for you to come. Yeah, we can have
a little shy Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yes, let's do it. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Oh, Lauren, thank you so much. Where can people find
you and read more about you and get inspired by
you the way I've been?
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Sure, So my book is entitled Unstoppable and Stilettos.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Of course it is, of course right stop as she is.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yes, my Instagram is just at Lauren Rotolo, Twitter at
Lauren Rotolo, LinkedIn whatever you just here I am with
my name and then Laurenrotolo dot net is my website
where you can see me walking, see me talking, see
just how I live.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Seeing you thrive is what people will see. Thank you
so much. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I really appreciate you being here. It means a lot.
Thank you, Lauren.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Thank you. I can't wait to see you in October.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yes, I'll see you in October.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I'm going to actually get your number and from Ryan
right now and I'm gonna text you.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I would love to see you.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Ah, thank you. I'd love to see you too.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
You're contagious and I feel like we just have like.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That inner feeling. We are so similar, and I mean
you can teach us, girl.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I love the Midnight Ride. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Fun.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
It's like one hundred and ten over here. So I'm
trying to just and I'm in boxes because I'm moving.
All they pulled was the top of whatever is at
the top of the box. And just I'm so happy
you like it. I did right by a fashion easta.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You did, You're did? I love it all right?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Thank you, mar Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It was an honor to be on your show.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Absolutely, thank you for being here. Thanks for listening to
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