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Megan and Lesley dive into the surprising disconnect between celebrity ages and our mental images of them, sparked by discovering Kurt Loder recently turned 80 years old.

• Lesley shares her harrowing experience with a stomach virus that left her with a "puke baby"
• Discussion of the new American Pope Leo XIV, his Midwestern roots, and what his selection might signify about America's changing global position
• Revelation that Kermit the Frog is 70 years old while Miss Piggy is only 50, creating a surprising 20-year age gap between the Muppet couple
• Exploration of how MTV VJs including Kurt Loder, Martha Quinn, and Nina Blackwood are now in their 60s, 70s, and 80s
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Megan (00:00):
I'm Megan Bennett, I'm Leslie Meyer and this is Gen X.
Women Are Sick of this.

Lesley (00:05):
Shit.

Megan (00:10):
Hi Leslie.

Lesley (00:11):
Hi, Megan.
How the hell are you?
I'm great.
How are you Well?
You're well now.
I am well now, Hallelujah.
Last weekend I was sick as fuckI'm going to say sick as fuck
from Saturday evening untilWednesday night.
Okay, I, finally I went back.

(00:31):
I did a half day on Thursday.
I saw like three clientsbecause that was all the
energies I had, and then Iremained scared of food until
Tuesday.

Megan (00:41):
How much did you lose?
I don't know.
Probably 10 pounds.
I bet it was insane.
It's the worst diet ever.

Lesley (00:49):
In my whole life.
Wow, I had a puke baby at onepoint, and that's all we need to
say about that, did you?
Name the puke baby.
It was baby puke Baby.

Megan (01:05):
It was I threw I had nothing to throw up in other
than my t-shirt which I had totake off of my body to hold the
puke baby.

Lesley (01:15):
It was surreal and I just am going to share that
because that's life.
Is that one of the two dolls?

Megan (01:21):
you're allotted.

Lesley (01:21):
It is one of my two dolls, my puke baby, you can't
have 30.
And I don't know what the otherone would be like my toothbrush
.
Maybe that those were the twothings that.

Megan (01:32):
I would be allowed.

Lesley (01:34):
I just didn't understand that a body could do all of
those things.

Megan (01:38):
I bet your ribs hurt.
It was awful.

Lesley (01:41):
Everything hurt, yeah, and I just had no confidence
that anything would ever stay inmy body again.
Zero confidence.
Do not get any kind of stomachvirus.
It is I boo.
Wash those hands.
Don't recommend, don't likeyour hands Wash everything, all
the time, every restaurant thatyou go to.
Do not fuck around, don't getcocky.

(02:03):
No, no.

Megan (02:04):
Don't get arrogant.
So this is I can't.
I I'm a big fan of going oncruises and my family's been
going on cruises for a long time.
Sure, sure we, we won't sailout of the United States at this
point, at least for the nextthree years, and 200 and a half
days because they decidedthey're not going to do ship

(02:25):
inspections anymore.
Oh shit, the norovirus is likea real problem All the time,
like all the time you hear aboutcruises, just like people being
quarantined and like and it'sso contagious, who cares?

Lesley (02:38):
What if everybody gets sick?
No, it's ridiculous.
There are certain public healthmeasures that protect the
public, all of them, every partof the public.
That should just remain inplace.
It's like it's just too hard,well you know, fuck those rules
because they're not my rules,right.

Megan (03:01):
They're somebody else's rules.

Lesley (03:02):
And only my rules can be here.

Megan (03:06):
I'm glad you're not dead.
Me too.
High fives, high five, not dead.
Not dead.
Here's to not dead.
So there that's just that'sjust some gossip, here's to
keeping your lunch down.
I'm very happy for you, thankyou.
Oh, I guess I should should askwhen you started feeling better
, did you have like a half, likea meal that was like your.

(03:28):
Oh god, no I have had no youjust work, you're just working,
your way very gingerly.
I was sort of like eggs,saltines, okay, protein.

Lesley (03:37):
I was a little scared of vegetables because what the
fuck?
I thought I was gonna be fine.
Baby had like, and I went tothe tiny egg root with like a
couple of saltines.
I was like, okay today.
Then I got really bold and Ihad some of a protein like
pre-made protein smoothie.
Okay, oh no, that's what led tothe puke.
Baby, ooh.

(03:57):
Okay, I think it just activatedpuke babyness somewhere in my
upper GI tract.
Here we are.
This is what we talk about.

Megan (04:07):
We talk about puke babies .

Lesley (04:08):
We age.
What's happening in our bodies?

Megan (04:13):
Or not happening the way that it's supposed to, anymore
what's happening?

Lesley (04:15):
in our bodies, ew puke baby.
But you know it's not so bad.
I mean it recovered and fine,it's all good.

Megan (04:22):
Your body probably needed it.
You just needed a little break.
You need a little time on thetoilet and a lot of time.

Lesley (04:27):
So many ways I could get a break.
So many ways that would bebetter.
It was the worst kind of breakbecause I couldn't even like
watch tv or read or anything.

Megan (04:38):
I was out like my head was gone asleep, and that was
all you could do the worst sickin probably the last 12 years.

Lesley (04:45):
We could talk about it for 45 more minutes let's not do
that or we can talk abouttransition to uh, what's the hot
goss right now?
So white smoke, white smoke,white smoke.
Wait, what does that make methink of?
Uh, oh uh, the thing you saywhen you're around the fire and

(05:05):
the smoke's coming at you Likewhite rabbit, white rabbit white
rabbit, oh, white rabbit, orsomething like that.

Megan (05:09):
Yeah, there we go.
I think white rabbit's thething you say first thing in the
morning of the first day of anew month, is it?
Yeah, it's for good luck.
I've learned something newtoday.
First thing, when you wake up,you're supposed to say, on, like
the 1st of June or whatever, isWhite Rabbit.
This is why this is why I can'tsay it White Wabbit, white

(05:32):
Wabbit, white Wabbit.
Would you like to talk aboutthe Wackley Wabbit?

Lesley (05:36):
That explains why I never win at gambling, because
you don't say that Because Ihave not said that, not even in
51 years of my life, not evenone time I fixed it.
June is coming, here we go.
I'll try it out, and then I'llgo get a lottery ticket.

Megan (05:49):
It's no good morning Tim.
None of that shit.
Nope, it has to be White.

Lesley (05:52):
Rabbit three times.
Okay, but you were saying WhiteSmoke.

Megan (05:57):
White Smoke, white Smoke we got a new.
We got a new on a rope, pope ona rope yeah, I mean, we don't
know if he's on a rope, but heseems nice, he seems pleasant,
he's american, he yes, he'smidwestern.

Lesley (06:10):
We will hear the homily in english for the first time,
which is sort of interestingfrom chicago, chicago uh, don't
put.

Megan (06:18):
Don't put no ketchup on that pope's dog.
Nope, don't do it.

Lesley (06:22):
I hope the pope would say that pope leo the 14th,
which if you followed from thebeginning, you know about dr leo
marvin, yes, and we're certainthat that pope leo wanted to
name himself after our cat.

Megan (06:34):
He chose that name just for yeah absolutely, as he knows
about dr leo I saw somebody sayon twitter and it made me laugh
a whole lot but because he'sthe first American, but he's
also a Midwestern pope.

Lesley (06:48):
Yes.

Megan (06:49):
And so they said instead of pope, he's an oop, oop, I'm
on board with that.
Oop, I think that's great, andif you're listening to us from
anywhere else besides theMidwest, you don't get that joke
.
The Midwest, you don't get thatjoke.
But whenever a overly politeMidwesterner accidentally bumps

(07:09):
into somebody or something, theycan't help themselves.
They say oh, oh yeah, we have tshirts to prove it, we do it's
kind of silly, but that's,that's a Midwestern thing, pope
Leo's come out.

Lesley (07:18):
you know kind of punching a little bit, naming
some names dropping some things,dropping some nuggets.
I was reading sort of his uhlike resume on different things.
Um, you know, he's kind ofmisaligned with the lgbtq stuff
in my opinion but so was thepope before him at the beginning
okay, fair, fair point I and Iam open like there needs to be a

(07:41):
space of gray and like we don't.
It's not like we have a fuckingchoice.

Megan (07:44):
Right, this is the Pope, this is who we hope, leo, and
there could have been much worsechoices, absolutely so I do
think in order to be consideredto be Pope, you have to temper
your beliefs verbally out there,you know, in order.

(08:05):
I just don't think if you cameoff and you said, right, I am uh
100 pro lgbtq, trans,everything, um, you know, I mean
, he's already said he's promigrant, he's pro immigrant,
he's you know all these thingshuman dignity of all people
right you take it one more stepthough, and you're like, oh no,
I'm not going to do it too muchMore women in positions of power

(08:26):
in the Catholic Church.

Lesley (08:27):
He wants to be popular.

Megan (08:31):
Popular.
He wants to be popular Okay.

Lesley (08:37):
So there we go.

Megan (08:38):
Two theater dorks with.
Who are non-Catholic by the way, non-catholic theater dorks
with microphones.

Lesley (08:45):
I apologize, but we appreciate a good Pope
Absolutely, and you cannot denythe influence in the world.
And so here we go.
We're going to see what happens.
Right after I saw theannouncement of the Pope being
Pope-ified, I then read that thereason that there had not been
an American Pope Did you readthis?

Megan (09:05):
No.

Lesley (09:05):
Up until this point.
One of the theories is because-.

Megan (09:09):
We're all a little gauche .

Lesley (09:10):
The United States had a lot of political power and
financial power in the world andone of the theories was that
you would not see a pope in theUnited States until the United
States was in decline Becausethey did not want to give that
much power to one.

Megan (09:28):
I think I totally see that.
I see it as a balance which Ican absolute balance act here
Really fascinating.

Lesley (09:36):
I don't remember where I read that, but when I read it I
said that's true.

Megan (09:39):
Well, that seems like now it's set on the internet, and
now it's a fact.
It's a fact.

Lesley (09:41):
Well, that seems like it's tracking, and now it's set
on the internet.
And now it's a fact, it's afact.

Megan (09:45):
Just keep JD Vance away from him, because JD Vance kills
popes.
I said it, I mean it, he doesit.

Lesley (09:54):
He did it.
We don't want to spreadmisinformation, okay.
Nothing, everything on thispodcast is true, we rarely share
misinformation.

Megan (10:10):
True man, all of it, JD Vance's original.
It checks out, see, see, see wehave been fact-checked.

Lesley (10:18):
He's trying really hard to say something.
He kept pushing the button andI was like what's happening?
Okay, but this isn't the onlything we're talking about today.
No, what else we talk abouttoday?
Oh wait, do we have anythingwe're sick of?
Oh, I was sick of being sick.
God, so many things.
Sick of being sick.
That was one of the things.
Sick of it being cold.

(10:38):
It's starting to improve italcohol.
I wrote something down ohpeople fucking going after
public television.
Oh yeah, defunding PBS and.
Npr because we're the Mr Rogersgeneration.

Megan (10:56):
Don't you think that if Fred Rogers were still alive and
this shit was going down, hewould probably rip off his
little bow tie and just fucking?

Lesley (11:04):
And he would say it wasn't a bow tie, was it?
It was a straight tie.
But still Now listen, we needto talk about who is living in
our neighborhood.

Megan (11:13):
Yeah, I feel like he would probably, in the sweetest
possible way, just hand it rightback to the Trump
administration.

Lesley (11:23):
Take that trolley and knock you out.
Using words that they would notknow the meaning of probably.

Megan (11:29):
So he's defended it before there's, I know footage
of him defending pbs.

Lesley (11:34):
So the day that the funding was removed was the
anniversary of that moment incongress where fred rogers sat
in front of congress anddefended of, of course, Because
performative cruelty is what2025 is all about.
Yeah.
So in reaction, which we shouldhave been donating all along,
we did start donating to ourlocal public television station.

(11:57):
Yes, because we watch a lot ofpublic television and it's
important and we need it.

Megan (12:05):
And that's all I have to say.
And you can get a copy of LesMis.
If you give them a certainamount of money, they will send
you a copy the public televisionfundraising-a-thons but, prizes
.

Lesley (12:19):
I would always be like, okay, but what's the next thing?

Megan (12:22):
What about if I hold out just a little bit?

Lesley (12:24):
longer they might.
What if I get two free ticketsto the symphony I?

Megan (12:28):
really need those watching.
Watching les mis for one of theone of the telethons.

Lesley (12:34):
Uh was the first time that gillian saw the british
version of les mis like wewatched it and of course, they
interrupt every, you know 15minutes or whatever, like six
hours long, right, and you'relike holy jesus like oh my god,
just get on with your nextfrench revolution already it's
the longest revolution ever, godit's in real time.
It's in slow motion, it's sortof like it's a real time french

(12:58):
revolution so anyway, uh, giveto public, yes, public
television.
Donate to your local stationwatch Mr Rogers.
Be a good person and SesameStreet and Sesame Street.
Support your Sesame Street BobRoss, even though he never got a
dime.

Megan (13:19):
Someday we will know how to get to Sesame Street.

Lesley (13:24):
I don't know At 51,.

Megan (13:26):
I'm thinking, I'm not giving up the ghost.

Lesley (13:29):
I don't think we're going to ever know I won't get
there.
It's sort of like the YellowBrick Road I'm not going to get
there, but I'm okay with it.
The adventure is in the journey.

Megan (13:38):
It's in your mind.
Yeah, sesame Street isbeautifully positioned somewhere
in your mind.

Lesley (13:43):
Yeah, sesame Street is beautifully positioned somewhere
in your mind.

Megan (13:47):
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(15:03):
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Lesley (15:07):
Four prizes.
That's true.
The space is able to hostweekly text chats so that you
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Lesley (16:15):
I love robin robin, that frog robin, der frog robin, he
was the nephew of kermit derfrog.

Megan (16:17):
I do remember that.
I think it's just kermit thatfrog, it's winnie der poo.
Get my, get my critters mixedup.
Kermit the.

Lesley (16:25):
Frog.

Megan (16:26):
Kermit the Frog.
Let's see Winnie the Pooh.
You know, Winnie the Pooh issuper old.

Lesley (16:37):
Yeah, these were like the gosh.
They're not.
I mean, they're puppetsets,cartoons.
Winnie the pooh was a cartoon.
Winnie the pooh is 103 yearsold.
I'm into.
I'm into that yeah I'd tap that.
I'd tap that bear.
I'd tap that honey honey pot.

(16:57):
I have always loved winnie thepooh.
I like winning Pooh too.
It was like my favorite when Iwas probably like one or two.
My grandmother and my mom tookme to Sears and Roebuck.
This is a story I've been toldbecause I was an infant, I have
no memory.

(17:17):
And to get me to shut up, theyhanded me a Winnie the Pooh.

Megan (17:21):
And oh my golly, when they tried to take that away.
You did not give that Winniethe Pooh and oh my golly when
they tried to give that away,hell no.

Lesley (17:27):
So my grandmother ended up purchasing me a Winnie the
Pooh and from that day forth.
Winnie the Pooh.
Oh, I love that.
So that was my jam.
What was your childhood jam?
In terms of like, was therelike a kind of iconic Sesame
Street character, Muppet?

Megan (17:47):
I loved Robin Hood from Disney.
Yes, still kind of have a crushon him.

Lesley (17:55):
Not going to lie.
Total hottie, hot fox Down withthat.

Megan (17:58):
Loved him.
And then I'm trying to thinkwhat the other Robin Hood was a
big deal.

Lesley (18:06):
I have those.
Do you remember the Disneystory records?
Yeah yeah, I have that.

Megan (18:11):
I have Robin Hood.
Love it, and the Aristocats wasone of my favorites those good
music on that one.
That was really good oh gosh.

Lesley (18:19):
So good yeah.
Do you know what I saw today?

Megan (18:23):
What's up?

Lesley (18:24):
I was scrolling the Instagram and I happened to see
that it's Kermit the Frog'sbirthday.

Megan (18:32):
Really Kermit the Frog the.

Lesley (18:34):
Frog Kermit.
The Frog Kermit's birthday isMay 9th 1955.
I'm doing math.
Good job, I'm proud of you Ouch.

Megan (18:46):
And it's 1925.
70?

Lesley (18:47):
70 years old, that little frog 70.
Okay, has had a lot of spa days, no shit.

Megan (18:55):
Well, that blows my mind Like I can get behind Winnie the
Pooh being 103.
Yeah, Like that because thebook was old and it makes all
kinds of sense, kermit the Frogshould not be 70 years old.
How old do you think, kermit?

Lesley (19:09):
the Frog is.

Megan (19:10):
Well, so Jim Henson was like just a regular adult person
when we were little kids, right?
Yes, he's probably in his 30s.
He wasn't an old guy.

Lesley (19:19):
Okay, so this is the question that we're answering
today.
What makes someone old?
Like when did you become awareof old?
Or when what people wereconsidered?

Megan (19:31):
old.
I mean, weren't I don't knowlike your grandparents were old?
Grandparents were old.
Your parents at some point wereold.

Lesley (19:38):
You know like Well, your parents are always old because
they're your parents, Right?
So, no matter what, it doesn'tmatter You're going to think of,
I always thought of them not asold people, but they were old I
don't know.
But then my mom died when shewas young, so I have a little
cognitive dissonance.
But no, I mean grandparents areold.

Megan (20:00):
And, of course, your parents are old.

Lesley (20:01):
When you're five, everybody's old.
And of course, your parents areold.
When you're five, everybody'sold, Right.
And so what delineates betweenlike who we think even are old
now?
Like who do you think of as anold person now, like someone
semi-famous?

Megan (20:16):
Well, I don't know, because that bar keeps getting
moved, the goalpost keeps moving.
Like are we old Some days Idon't think so, though old some
days I don't think so.
No, I don't think so either.
I think we.
I'm perpetually in my head, I'mperpetually in my young 20s.
Oh, interesting, okay, and Ithink that's just like part of

(20:39):
that is I.
I couldn't name a new musicalact that came out in the last
five or six years.
If forced to Truly, truly Like,like I could say, I could say I
know, I know Beyonce, I knowTaylor Swift, I know.

Lesley (20:57):
But that's not new, like those people have been around
for a while, billie Eilish.

Megan (21:02):
Okay, billie Eilish, but she's, but even she is not
within the last, like five years, right.

Lesley (21:07):
More than five years.

Megan (21:10):
There are Even like people like Megan Thee Stallion
right.
Like I couldn't couldn't pickout a song, but I know that
she's that's older than fiveyears for sure I'm a mess,
seriously current pop probablyyeah, got anybody I would not be
the best about.

Lesley (21:28):
I do find new artists.
I would literally have to gothrough my spotify and tell you.

Megan (21:32):
Though, yeah, because I don't retain any information.
Now, that's the problem.

Lesley (21:36):
That's why I don't sound cool because I'm like yeah, I
know I've found new artists, butthey're like no, I just in my
head.
And so many artists who, likewhen we were kids, are circling
back around and touring or doinglike yes, songs with younger
artists, like that kind of thing, or artists that I listened to,

(21:57):
like in the 90s, kind of in,like the dance club scene sort
of, and there was like thisresurgence of new wave it wasn't
quite punk, I don't know, Idon't know what you would have
called it Like those bands arecoming back around again.

Megan (22:12):
Yeah, it's like Scissor.

Lesley (22:13):
Sisters touring again.

Megan (22:15):
Yeah, I loved them.
Yeah, again like scissors,sisters touring.
Again, yeah, I loved them.
So inner pole things like that,like I like two generations of
music.

Lesley (22:21):
There was like high school and college and then
probably like my 30s, early 40s,like I was still yeah, I was.

Megan (22:28):
I was completely not aware of the 90s, like at all
like it.
Well, I can't say that therewere like the cardigans were
somebody I listened to.
There was a band called therentals.
That were really fun, that Ilistened to um, elastica was
another one, but they all hadthat kind of almost like an 80s
sort of sound for sure so Ididn't leave the sound, sort of

(22:52):
like the sound left me.
I did not get it grunge at all.

Lesley (22:56):
It was not even a little bit.
That was my whole world Becausethat was college, but you were
a little bit ahead of me incollege and that was prime.
The Pearl Jam album releaseswere a big deal.
I know where I was when KurtCobain his death was announced.

Megan (23:10):
I do know that.
I know where I was.
But I know of one album theydid.
That's it Like seriously.

Lesley (23:18):
Yes, yeah, the single soundtrack was pretty much my
whole college experience.
You know, that was kind of theheight of like pop grunge, I
would say, or popular grunge.
I had it, I listened to it,yeah, but it wasn't like.

Megan (23:31):
It just didn't define me at all.
Like the 80s stuff stayed withme a lot longer it was that
second british wave stuff thatkind of was made up everything
that I listened to for thelongest time.

Lesley (23:43):
So isn't that so interesting, just like a couple
of years difference, yeah, andit's like when you kind of turn
like 18, 19, 20 like those threeyears that music is so
formative because you're likehaving more adult adult.
We thought we were so fuckingold experiences, right well, and
like that shit.

(24:04):
Right like I was 20, 21, oh, Igot it this is it?

Megan (24:06):
I got this.
I figured my whole life.
They gave me a credit card.
Yeah, fuck yeah.
I had like a dumb ass for myown.

Lesley (24:13):
I had a whole 200 limit at first.
Uh-huh, I had a montgomery wardcredit card no way.

Megan (24:20):
Oh yeah, that's fucking dangerous right there amazing,
yeah, but like it's, you'reright.
Like you think you that's aformative time, you, yeah, that
was your shit absolutely so this.

Lesley (24:31):
We started having this conversation because we found
out that kurt loader's birthdaykurt loader mtv news formative
years for us was just on.
Oh, I wrote it down may 5th,and do you remember how old kurt
loader turned?

Megan (24:50):
yes, because you told me and I went shut the fuck up.

Lesley (24:53):
Well, I think your, your spouse, found.
Yeah, no, that internet, that'sright you guys need to talk
about this Right.

Megan (25:00):
He's 80 years old.
Eight.

Lesley (25:03):
Zero Eight.

Megan (25:04):
Zero.
So here's my theory on this.
Kurt Loder is one of thosepeople that we is a snapshot in
our time, right?
Oh for sure, we know in the 80sand early 90s he was on MTV.
Yes, we know what he looks like.
We picture him as alwaysforever being high 20s, low 30s,

(25:27):
whatever, right, Ish, yes, Imean.

Lesley (25:30):
I don't know that.
We really knew.

Megan (25:31):
Yeah right, we never really knew how old he was,
right, but.
But we never saw him age Likewe didn't see the last 40 years
of Kurt Loder's life.
So he's in our head he's still30 some years old.
Now if we think about, like Idon't know Mick Jagger.

Lesley (25:50):
Oh yeah.

Megan (25:51):
We watched that motherfucker age our entire
lives Hardcore.

Lesley (25:54):
Hardcore aging.

Megan (25:56):
Right, but is it a surprise?

Lesley (25:58):
that he's an old dude.
No, no, agreed.

Megan (26:02):
So I think that's my theory anyway.

Lesley (26:03):
I think that's a valid theory, because you're
absolutely right.
They are just in their place intime internally and I think if
somebody had just asked me offthe street I would have been
like, oh, maybe 60.
Right, same 65.
As if we were close to the sameage.

Megan (26:20):
Because you would have been doing the math a little bit
right.
You would have been like okay,well.

Lesley (26:28):
I mean, like as a teenager, I just would have.

Megan (26:29):
Well, you're older than me because you were on
television in the 80s.
Right.

Lesley (26:31):
Like 81, 82, 83.
And I would have been likeeight, nine, 10 years old.
So I'm like you've got to be atleast 20.
Right, and so that's what Iimagine, but that is not true.
Like my dad's going to be 84this year.
That means that my dad and KurtLoder are the same generation.

Megan (26:50):
Yeah, like.

Lesley (26:51):
Kurt Loder is a boomer.

Megan (26:52):
He's a boomer.

Lesley (26:53):
But one of the coolest people ever.

Megan (26:55):
I mean, they all were right, yeah, yeah, all that crew
.

Lesley (27:00):
I looked up all the MTV VJs because I was just like, how
old is everybody?
So, martha Quinn, 65.
Okay, nina Blackwood 69.

Megan (27:11):
So Kurt Loder was that much older than they were though
, and you wouldn't if youpicture them on MTV.
You would never have thoughtthat?

Lesley (27:18):
Not at all.
Not at all.
Alan Hunter 68.
Mark Goodman 74.
And then JJ Jackson, who sadlypassed away in 2004.
He was 62.
He would be 83.
So exactly my dad's age.
These were like our idols.

Megan (27:34):
Yeah.

Lesley (27:35):
With like MTV, yeah, I mean.

Megan (27:37):
Wow, yeah, idols, yeah, with like mtv.
Yeah, I mean wow.
So here, I just looked this upbecause I was curious if michael
jackson were alive today, howold do you think he'd be?
Just in your mind, okay, okayokay, I would.

Lesley (27:49):
He felt young to me, though even then.
He was young then, so I'dprobably put him in his 60s.
Okay, he's sick, he would be 66.
Okay, because my memory ofMichael Jackson.
There were so many pictures ofhim as a kid when I was a kid,
even though he was more grown,he was more of an adult.

Megan (28:08):
But he's still like kid version Little Michael Jackson
from ABC.

Lesley (28:12):
Yes, when I was looking at some of the Kurt loder stuff,
uh, I looked.
Oh no, never mind, I'm a liar,I did not look this up so I'm
not even gonna say it.
Um, I was just watching some ofthe videos of him and, like all
of the news and how the newswas delivered, it was hilarious
it was just so likestraightforward and deadpan.

(28:34):
When he he announced Veryserious Kurt Cobain's death, it
was just like the most neutral,like I was like that man has no
facial expressions.

Megan (28:44):
I was just trying to hold it together.

Lesley (28:46):
I yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people were.

Megan (28:48):
Yeah.

Lesley (28:49):
It was really.

Megan (28:50):
Just really shocked by it .

Lesley (28:51):
Yeah, so we went down kind of a rabbit hole, or you
went down a rabbit hole, likewe're kind of talking about who
are people that are not the agethat we imagine that they should
be yeah, and I think kermit thefrog is one of those like, wait
a minute, like I picture mickeymouse is old, like because, yes
, while disney was old, okay,and while disney created mickey

(29:12):
mouse and you know, and he waslike in the 30s and whatever.

Megan (29:15):
so mickey sounds old to me and black and white cartoons.

Lesley (29:18):
And he just had his 100th birthday.

Megan (29:20):
Right, I think, but so Mickey's that age?
How in the hell is Kermit 30years younger than that?
That's just wild to me.

Lesley (29:31):
Really really good skin.
I don't know, Maybe frogs don'tage as quick.
They age in frog years, andthat's what's happening.

Megan (29:40):
They use that snail goo that you know everybody's using.
Go into the swamp, getthemselves a snail, rub it on
their face.

Lesley (29:48):
Let's then beget another conversation that we had
earlier.
So if Kermit is 70, how old isMiss Piggy?

Megan (29:55):
You looked this up.
How old is Miss Piggy?
Miss looked this up.
How old is Miss Piggy?

Lesley (29:58):
We Miss Piggy is.
Miss Piggy's birthday is 1974.
Okay, Okay, Okay.
Only one year older than me, soMiss Piggy would just be like
50.
I got three years on the pigyou got, and so 20 years almost

(30:18):
ish, 18 years between Kermit andMiss Piggy.

Megan (30:21):
Kermit is robbing the pig cradle.

Lesley (30:26):
He's going high on the hog.
He's getting high on the hog.
Originally I thought it was 76,but it looks like it was first.
She first appeared in 1974.
So I think that's her birthdayis like June 14th or something
like that.
I looked it up.

Megan (30:41):
I love that.
I love well, I like that she'sa Gemini.

Lesley (30:45):
Uh, hell yeah, oh, that's so on point.
Well, so okay, we won't.

Megan (30:49):
That's awesome, I was like.

Lesley (30:50):
Does Kermit land?
When's the cutoff?
When does Gemini start?

Megan (30:54):
Uh, when does Gemini start?
End of May, end of May.

Lesley (30:56):
Okay, so Kermit is whatever comes, before that
nobody cares about.

Megan (30:58):
He is a Taurus, okay there you go.

Lesley (31:00):
I can't say nobody cares about it, they'll all get mad.
My grandma was a Taurus, it'sfine.

Megan (31:06):
They're too stubborn to give up either.
They'll be pissed if you don'tacknowledge them.

Lesley (31:19):
So other stars that you kind of grew up with that, you
well, so I pulled up just out ofcuriosity some people because
it just blew my mind, but like,okay, so I'll let me quiz you.

Megan (31:25):
Okay, all right.
Um, if you had to guess how oldyoko ono is oh my gosh, I would
put her in her 80s she's 92.
Holy shit see.
Holy wild right, super wild,like we both know how old
William Shatner is.

Lesley (31:40):
No, I don't, he's 94.

Megan (31:42):
Oh, golly Yep.

Lesley (31:45):
Tim loves the.

Megan (31:46):
Shatner, clint Eastwood.
In his 90s 94 also, is he yeah?

Lesley (31:52):
Because he's been a crusty motherfucker for a while.

Megan (31:54):
He has been a crusty motherfucker, but he was also a
crusty motherfucker as an actor.

Lesley (31:59):
Yes, always.
Yes, just had an aged look,tommy.

Megan (32:03):
Lee Jones.
Tommy Lee Jones will always inmy head.
I don't care if it's youngTommy Lee Jones, he still looks
like he's in his 70s.
I have no idea how old he is.
I didn't look him up.
We don't need to know that.

Lesley (32:14):
Sometimes you just don't need to know he's always going
to be 70.
How about Barbara Eden from IDream of Jeannie?
Oh, she must be in her 90s, 93.

Megan (32:30):
93?
Because it was in the 60s right.

Lesley (32:32):
I Dream of Jeannie being black.
Early episodes were black andwhite, or were they?

Megan (32:36):
That's a good question.
I only remember color.

Lesley (32:39):
But no, you're right, you're right, I can't remember a
minute and everything about thetv show feels old to me, like
kind of 50s, 60s becausebewitched was black and white
and then color, okay, so thereit is.
I dream of genie.

Megan (32:53):
Okay, so it was yeah, it looks like maybe okay, so it was
yeah it looks like maybe, oh,there's a pilot episode was in
black and white okay interesting.

Lesley (33:02):
Okay, yeah, so if I, if I remember something as like
black and white, then I'm justgonna assume they're 90 or 100,
because that must have been theancient times way old, ancient
times.
Um, like, anyone who was on theWaltons is likely dead.

Megan (33:20):
How about here's one?
Okay, Do you remember GeneShalit?
No, he was on TV and he didreviews like book reviews and
movie reviews.

Lesley (33:28):
Oh my gosh and he had the big black mustache.

Megan (33:31):
Yes, Mustache.

Lesley (33:33):
What show was he on, though?
I was like Good Morning orsomething, maybe G-N-E.
Oh, there he is.
Oh, yes, oh, very much.
So.
Okay, I would say I'm not goingto look what he's in his, he's

(33:53):
99, he's 99.
Wow, that is a picture of himin 1973.
That was the year I was born helooks the same.

Megan (34:04):
He looked the same all through our childhood, though.
Okay, so here's the thing.

Lesley (34:08):
He is a year younger than my grandmother, who would
have been 100 this year.
She was born april 21st 1925crazy.

Megan (34:17):
Huh.
Yeah, I thought that was areally cool one thought of that.

Lesley (34:19):
Oh, I do remember him delightful, he was funny.
Yeah, I love that I agree allright.
So let's do some younger peoplehere um okay, well, my top
three musical acts from middleschool okay, cindy, lapper,
madonna and prince.
Okay, so we kind of talkedabout Madonna earlier.
Do you remember how old she is?

(34:40):
She's in her 60s, yeah, 66?
.

Megan (34:43):
She's like 66.
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

Lesley (34:45):
So then, where would you put Cyndi Lauper?

Megan (34:48):
I would put Cyndi in that same range, maybe a tick older.
She is a tick older.

Lesley (34:57):
She is a tick older.
That is the truth.
She is 71.
Wow, but in your mind she looksgood.
She does look good.
She's such a badass too, Ifucking love Cindy Lauper, I met
her.
You did, I did.

Megan (35:10):
Ooh cool, she's super sweet.

Lesley (35:11):
That's so awesome, Okay.
So then in your mind you putcindy lapper and share in the
same decade like as you imaginethem.

Megan (35:23):
No, I would put share older okay, how like?
Because share was such a thingin the 60s, like with she and
sunny uh-huh, and then share andsunny like comedy hour or
whatever it was, like yeah,absolutely.
So you might say she's like inher 80s, like I would put her at
least at least in her high 70sokay, early 80s high 70s is

(35:45):
accurate.

Lesley (35:45):
She's 78.

Megan (35:46):
Okay, they're only like they're not that far apart.
Not at all.

Lesley (35:50):
Not for cindy being an 80s icon yes, but it does have
to do with, like, like you saidthat time, that we remember
seeing them and kind of thoseearly images and how they like
burn themselves into our brainsand it's like, oh well, then you
must be this old, it's wild.

Megan (36:10):
How about?
I mean everybody always.
Well, how about Keanu Reeves?

Lesley (36:15):
Oh, I actually know this .
He's in his 60s, isn't he?
No, how old is he?
59.
59.

Megan (36:21):
Okay, yeah Well, I should say, let me double check he is
60.
60.
60.
Okay, so just 60.
Just 60.

Lesley (36:29):
I felt like I had read that.

Megan (36:31):
Okay, so he's just a tiny bit older than me.
There's still a, there's stilla chance.

Lesley (36:49):
There's still a chance, there's hope hey, paul, if
you're listening, paul red,megan bennett wants a date to be
my husband loves him.
He'd probably be like it's okay, Maybe Megan's husband wants a
date.

Megan (37:04):
I could get a pass, maybe If I got like his autograph or
something.

Lesley (37:08):
You'd be like I will get him to sign this t-shirt and my
boob and this bra.

Megan (37:14):
Let's you and I talk.

Lesley (37:16):
To be fair.

Megan (37:17):
Your husband is also aging very slowly.
He has magnificent hair.
We are, in our relationship,very blessed that way.

Lesley (37:28):
We're blessed that way.
Alright, here's a couple otherones just to blow your mind a
little bit Jennifer Lopez, oh,golly Jennifer.

Megan (37:37):
Lopez Jennifer.

Lesley (37:38):
Lopez.
Oh golly, Jennifer Lopez.
She's also in her 50s.
I would say 56, 58.

Megan (37:44):
She is my age.

Lesley (37:45):
She's 54.
54.
Oh sorry, jen.
Well she might be.
I mean, you look amazing, she'sa tick older.

Megan (37:49):
She's 55 probably now.

Lesley (37:51):
I just was assuming that you were an older person than
me.

Megan (37:55):
How about Gwen Stefani?
Oh shit 62.
Wow, you put her old.
I put her way younger than sheis.
I thought she was significantlyyounger than me.
She is 55.
55.
So she's older than me.
Okay, yeah.

Lesley (38:13):
I have to stop imagining that everybody that was doing
ska music was a lot older thanwow.
Yeah see, I would have becauseI'm feeling, I feel myself young
from compared.

Megan (38:26):
But also like, like, look at her.
Like she looks super youthful.
Yes, like absolutely, maybe youknow, and there is zero shame
in having the work done so likehair and clothes, like how you
dress, how?

Lesley (38:41):
Yes, absolutely looked old because everything they wore
was from the 50s and that wasold Yep the style of glasses,
their hairstyles were of theiryouth, but they were so very

(39:04):
specific.

Megan (39:05):
Oh see, my grandmother went full old lady Like even I
look at pictures of me, herholding me as a teeny, tiny baby
.
Yeah, her hair is old lady hair.
It's permed and it's like withthe little curly rollers but
that was what they did when theywere young.

Lesley (39:22):
Well, I don't know.

Megan (39:22):
I looked at, I looked at younger pictures of her like
world war ii era stuff wasreally like you know, like,
because it like my victory curls, the whole bit hair set and you
would do all these things andthat's what my grandma she had
like.

Lesley (39:34):
She got her hair set and it was like the thing to do at
that age, but it's so like of adeck, I mean it's so I mean
there I don't think there's agen x woman who is getting their
hair in those tiny littlecurlers and permed regularly,
and like and sleeping in a scarfright, I don't think I don't do
that, I don't think so, are wegonna have blue haired?

(39:54):
ladies anymore.
Not the same kind of blue.
I don't think we're gonna haveno anymore.
I don't think so.
Are we going to have bluehaired ladies anymore?
Not the same kind of blue.

Megan (39:58):
I don't think we're going to have no, it'll be like some
cool ass manic panic blue.

Lesley (40:02):
Because it was like you had little blue haired ladies
and purple haired and pinkhaired ladies because of the
setting Right yeah, that wasused in their hair and you had
really white hair, hair to pinkor blue, pink or blue.

Megan (40:15):
Here's one for you.
Yes, christy.

Lesley (40:20):
Brinkley.
Oh okay, I had to just likeremember who she was.

Megan (40:22):
You had to think about who she was.
I had to go through my filingcabinet.
She was married for a hotminute to Billy Joel.

Lesley (40:26):
Yes, okay, and they probably were older than me.

Megan (40:29):
She was a fashion model, she was an uptown girl, if you
will.
So she's 62.

Lesley (40:41):
I want everybody to be 62.
She's 71.
71?
Oh, I'm terrible at this game.
It's a fun game, though it'sbecause I haven't said the white
rabbit thing yet.
That's why my luck still sucks.

Megan (40:47):
Well, let's stick with the other fashion models Cindy
Lauper or not Cindy Lauper.
Cindy Crawford.

Lesley (40:52):
Cindy Crawford probably also in that range in her 60s
60s.

Megan (40:57):
She's 59.
59.
Okay, so younger, but yeah,okay.

Lesley (41:02):
Ooh, that's so funny to think about Christy Brinkley
being a decade or more older.

Megan (41:08):
Yeah, what was the model?

Lesley (41:10):
competition, like Like you're like a 30-year-old model
and there's this 20-year-old andyou're just like shooting
daggers oh brutal, brutal, likebrutal, brutal, brutal, brutal.

Megan (41:19):
Angela bass, it's another one that, first of all, that
woman will never age.
How old is she?
She's fucking gorgeous.
Angela bass is 66, okay, andshe's stunning.
That's amazing, stunning.
She is stunning.
Um, you know, I roll past someof these like super young

(41:40):
whippersnappers.

Lesley (41:41):
They are babies.
Wee Bairns, halle Berry 58.

Megan (41:46):
58.
What Nice job you.

Lesley (41:48):
No shit, Nice job you.
That's my one poker hand.
Jared Leto oh, uh, hmm, whatcame into my brain was like in
his 30s.
But that's impossible, right?
But that's where I went to.
Oh, interesting, I wonder why Iwas like what?

Megan (42:06):
what's up with that little millennial shit?
Oh, not that all millennialsare shit, but jay leno's kind of
a not jay leno, jay definitelya boomer, thanks, jay.

Lesley (42:18):
And he has lots of cars?
Yes, he does.
And then I want to go 40s.
He's got to be in his 50s.

Megan (42:27):
So I swear to you I would have said he was 100% a
millennial.
He is a solid Gen Xer at 53.
Okay, oh, okay, he's myfreaking age.
I would never have picked thatin a gajillion million trillion
years.

Lesley (42:44):
So like totally your peer.

Megan (42:46):
Basically, yes, wild I know super weird okay, this
isn't so.

Lesley (42:52):
okay, all these people who are kind of like gen x or or
older, like gen X to Boomer,like many of these people, are
still acting.
Yes, and we were talking aboutthis earlier.
I was like, is this generationof actors going to continue like
kind of A-listing as long as,like our members of Congress,
have stayed in maybe jobs?

Megan (43:13):
that they should have given up, or will they stop
being like the it person?

Lesley (43:18):
Right, I feel like, well , I don't know, I mean not
everybody's an A-lister anymore,but like they keep coming back,
I mean, does Hollywood, doesthe ethos of Hollywood, have
that same feeling where they'relike God, will some of these
fuckers just retire already?

Megan (43:35):
I mean, I don't know, give us the better parts, come
on.
I have the same problem, though, that I have with music.
Okay, like, if I watched theAcademy Awards I didn't watch
this year, I probably shouldhave Didn't Would not have known
any, like really Many Any Ofthe award nominees, because

(43:56):
they're young.

Lesley (43:57):
Like I am so stuck on.

Megan (44:02):
Sure, I'm just, I'm an old fuddy duddy, I'm an old
fuddy.

Lesley (44:05):
Duddy, I am a funny.
You're gonna watch likerewatches of like bonanza.
That was oh my god, that didnot age well by the way, holy
shit, my grandmother would watchcultural appropriation oh, I'm
good that's so many problems,but we're not gonna vet shows
made there and then no, I knowbut but I did watch an episode
not too long ago.

Megan (44:25):
It was just like wow, I clutched so many pearls I mean,
it was not good, it was not goodyes, anyway, perhaps, there are
some things that should nothave happened all kinds of all

(44:47):
kinds of holes I could fall into, uh, yeah okay.

Lesley (44:51):
So what do we want to know from our listening audience
, if they have anything to sayabout this?
Who are people that you lovedand you could go look them up on
the internet, give them a googs, yeah, who were you shocked by
and find out?

Megan (45:03):
how old they really are.
So another one that I wasthinking of, and this is this is
one of those cases of peoplewho I I saw in my childhood.
Okay, so in my mind, they arenever aging, okay alan alda.

Lesley (45:18):
Oh yes, like hawkeye pierce will never age yes, and I
almost I'm not gonna look it up.
I don't want to know the hand,like ash in general.

Megan (45:27):
Yeah, everybody in that show I mean, I think he might be
one of the only people stillliving oh, should we.

Lesley (45:34):
Well, I think, I think, hot lips about that, I think hot
lips is alive.

Megan (45:38):
I think she's still alive .
Okay.

Lesley (45:40):
I know I have seen Alan Alda do other things as an older
person.
So, I have a sense of him aging.

Megan (45:48):
Okay.

Lesley (45:49):
I could not 100% tell you how old he is, like I might
guess he's in his 80s.
He's got to be.
Is that cool?
Is that?

Megan (45:57):
true, you're going to like click on people.

Lesley (45:58):
We're going 80s.
He's gotta be Cool, is thattrue?
You're gonna like click onpeople.

Megan (46:01):
We're gonna look, he's 89 .
89.
Okay, he's gonna be.
Bless him.
I just wanna hug him.

Lesley (46:06):
We just said everybody in the cast is dead.
I was gonna agree with you, butwe don't know if that's true?

Megan (46:10):
Well, I know, I mean, I know, harry Morgan's gone.
Okay, sohoff was still alive,but 81.
Look at that round little babyface he's always going to be
that age and adorable Okay.

Lesley (46:23):
Honeycutt, 86.
Living.
Okay, great Loretta SwiftHoulihan 87.

Megan (46:31):
Still alive.

Lesley (46:31):
Wow, sorry cast of MASH.
We really thought.

Megan (46:34):
I'm sorry that you were Screw that.

Lesley (46:36):
Okay, jamie Farr Nine Clinger is 90.

Megan (46:41):
Oh, Harry Morgan's gone.

Lesley (46:42):
I know, I know he's passed.
Okay, oh yeah, of course, yeah,so he died in 2011.
He was really old he was, hewas he was like a grandparent
when that show was on.
I loved him you did, oh, was on.
Loved him.
You did, I did oh.
This is a story for another day.

Megan (47:00):
Yes, I could go deep into my love of mash uh, okay, and
david ogden yeah, so he's, he'spassed here we are, we could
just go down, we could well,okay, so this is where so frank
burns has passed, so so I yes,so some of these folks have gone
william christopher who.

Lesley (47:19):
Send us a postcard.
We're super curious.
Let the Pope know how you'redoing.

Megan (47:24):
Wayne Rogers, oh yeah, a lot of them.
Okay, the Clean Stevens is gone, so yeah, got you.

Lesley (47:29):
Wow, oh man Anyway.
I guess it's like how old youwere when you watched the show,
saw the concert, watched MTV.

Megan (47:38):
Yeah, the show.

Lesley (47:38):
saw the concert watched MTV and then it went away from
your brain and you never lookedat it again.
And of course, they have stayedthe exact same.
It's the same with friends.

Megan (47:46):
Oh my gosh yeah.

Lesley (47:47):
I have like seen friends in the past few years six years
or so that maybe I haven't seensince high school, and I'm like
oh my gosh.
And then my second thought isdo I look that different?
Of course you do, but you see,yourself in the mirror every day
, absolutely, and that person isexactly the age they were the
last time we saw one.

Megan (48:05):
Yeah.

Lesley (48:08):
So I'm a little disappointed.
There's a topic we didn't getto, but I think we should just
tease it for next time.
Oh, what's that?
You remember our conversation?
We were talking about ways thatpeople make money on the
internet, and that's all.
And yeah, let's talk about thatnext time with, like you know,
photos and and clothing, andit's.

Megan (48:29):
This is enough, this'll be, it'll make it really tune in
next time and you can hear ustalk about ways that people make
money easy money on theinternet, and if you make money
on the internet that way, you'reinterested in telling us about
it.

Lesley (48:48):
And the hook really there was.
I said well, if I sold that toa serial killer I would charge
double.
Yes, and that's all you'regoing to get.
Buffalo Bill Cody.

Megan (48:53):
There's the tease, it's going to cost you more, Buffalo
Bill.

Lesley (48:57):
It is.
I'm not opposed to selling itto you I am just I'm a little
prudy, I'm a little prudy.
I mean, we're never gonna knoweach other.
I would have a pseudonym.
Okay, we're gonna stop andwe're gonna start talking about
it.

Megan (49:10):
We are, we are.
We'll talk about it later.
This was super fun.
It was fun.

Lesley (49:13):
I'm shocked shocked, I tell you I say these will
continue to come up.
I'm sure maybe I'm shocked willjust be something that we get
to do on the show I'm shocked.
I'm shocked to find out righton.
Well, uh, happy friday night.
Happy friday out tomorrow, on asaturday.

Megan (49:31):
Yes, it is and this must be a thing with this bar.
We're just gonna hang out hereon friday night and the bar.

Lesley (49:36):
At some point we'll have a cocktail, but we always have
to do something afterwards.
We've got to be grown-ups.

Megan (49:42):
Alright, then See you later, alligator.

Lesley (49:46):
See you after a while, Crocodile, you have been
listening to Gen X.
Women Are Sick of this Shit.
Hey Megan, hey Leslie.
What do people do if they wantto find us?

Megan (49:55):
Well, we have a website that people can find us on, and
that is genxwomenpodcom.
We also have a Facebook page.
We have an Instagram account aswell.
We have a YouTube account wherewe put YouTube shorts and other
little tidbits up there.
We have a TikTok account.

(50:16):
I don't talk the dick or tickthe tock.
You don't tick the tock, Idon't, I barely talk the tick,
but I did put a TikTok up.

Lesley (50:24):
We're explaining the internet to people again.

Megan (50:27):
That's okay.
Though it's great, we need toknow how the internet works Can
people buy merch.
They absolutely can.
We have a merch store on thewebsite itself and we also have
an Etsy store on the websiteitself, and we also have an Etsy
store too.
So it's just pretty easy tofind.
It's just Gen X Women on Etsy.

Lesley (50:44):
And if you are listening to this podcast, presumably you
found it somewhere.
And while you're there, give usa review.
Yeah.

Megan (50:54):
Let us know what you think.
Throw some stars at us, That'dbe great.
We'll take one, two, three,four or five.
Ooh, five, maybe ten, and alsomake sure that you are hitting
subscribe so that you'renotified whenever a new episode
drops.
Most important, we also have afive minutes of fame that I
think we should tell peopleabout too.

Lesley (51:11):
Hell, yes, we want to know your stories, your five
minutes of fame stories.
You can send those stories inon the website.
Or you can send those storiesin on the website, or you can
call 1-888-GEN-X-POD and leaveyour story for us and we will
play it live in our next episodewe'll listen to it on a little
red phone, just like batmanthat'd be cool, let's get a bad

(51:35):
phone.
I think that's it.
That'd be great.

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