Commissioner Fincannon: Solar Farms and Community Buzz – What You Need to Know!

Episode 103:

Wichita County Commissioner Mickey Fincannon drops by to chat about the proposed solar farm near Burt Burnett, sparking a lively discussion on its potential impact. The episode dives into the nitty-gritty of the project, exploring what it could mean for local tax revenues and how it might influence the community's growth. They get into the nitty-gritty of neighborly concerns about aesthetics and environmental safety but also highlight the economic perks that could come with such a venture. There's a fair share of banter as they consider the balance between progress and preserving the charm of the area. With the promise of job creation and investment, this episode serves up a thoughtful take on the future of energy in the region, all while keeping things light and engaging.

Takeaways:

• In this episode, the hosts humorously acknowledge their missing co-host on a secret mission, showcasing a laid-back camaraderie that resonates with listeners.
• Wichita County Commissioner Mickey Fincannon discusses a proposed solar farm project, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of its environmental impact and community benefits.
• Listeners are encouraged to engage with the podcast on social media platforms, illustrating the hosts' commitment to building a community around their content.
• The conversation highlights the balance between local development and preserving the rural aesthetic, with guest Mickey advocating for property rights and responsible land use.
• A significant focus is placed on the economic potential of the solar farm project, with the commissioner explaining how it could benefit the local tax base and attract further investment.
• The hosts wrap up the episode by promoting local businesses and discussing the importance of supporting community-driven initiatives for economic growth.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Wichita County
• Burkburnett
• Fox Hill Restaurant
• John Hirschi
• Samsung

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
You make this rather snappy,won't you?
I have some very heavythinking to do before 10 o'.
Clock.
Hey, welcome to Get It Right Texoma.
Normally we got a trio here,but we're down one.
I'm Mike Hendren, TerryMcAdams, Trace Rall is usually on
the other end.
He's off on a super secretSecret Squirrel mission right now.

(00:21):
God only knows where.
We just hope that he's stillmakes it back upright and breathing
and makes it back in one piece.
But we will have a guest here shortly.
We will.
Yes, we will have a.
We've got Wichita CountyCommissioner Mickey Fincannon joining
us.
Yes.
Interesting information he'sgoing to bring.
Yes, he's the Precinct 2 commissioner.
Burt Burnett lies withinPrecinct 2.

(00:43):
And one of the things thatwe're going to cover that we're going
to talk about is a proposedsolar farm that will be just north
of the city of Burt Burnett,outside the city limits of Burt Burnett,
I think mostly outside thecity limits of Burt Burnett for sure.
But Burke will be impacted by it.
And there's been a lot of backand forth, good and bad about this

(01:05):
solar farm.
We're going to talk to himabout what facts he has on it.
And he sent out a pressrelease, an email a few weeks ago
about this talking about it.
And I think we discussed it alittle bit on the air, but we wanted
to have him come in and tellyou for himself what information
he has, what facts he has on it.

(01:25):
And we'll let him explain allthat coming up here in just a few
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(02:33):
will be here with us.
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Commissioner Fincannon will bewith us shortly.
Each episode that we do ofthis show, we try to focus on a locally
owned area restaurant.
And we're going to talk thistime around about Fox Hill Restaurant.

(02:57):
Yes, it was the brainchild, ifyou will, of Mr. Hershey.
John Hershey.
John Hershey.
He's just recently passed awaywithin the.
Last couple of months, I think.
One of his legacies, among others.
He's done a lot of good for the.
This town over the years sincehe's been here and in his businesses

(03:17):
and everything.
But Fox Hill was something hestarted a number of years ago and
he's actually had quite anumber of challenges from opening
up to begin with and then had a.
During a freeze, the bigfreeze, they had to pretty much start
all over and gut that place again.
And then they got it back open and.

(03:40):
And so now I'm very familiarwith Fox Hill in that I have been
their IT guy here for the lastfew years and have helped them get.
Recover from, from all of that.
But we, but I've, I've gottena sample, although I admit I have
not had a chance to go thereand actually eat in the restaurant,
but I know a lot of peoplehave it.
It's a great facility.

(04:02):
It's really nice.
The sound system's goodbecause I know I designed it.
But anyway, so we, but yeah,go there, check it out.
I have eaten the food, though.
I've gotten the back behindthe scenes samples of things and
oh my gosh, it is really,really good.
And they take their time.
They, they grow a lot of thestuff there on site.
You know, they have a whole.

(04:23):
The concept is farm to table.
Farm to table, yes.
And so they've got, as youall, if you've driven by there, you
see all that land that he hasthere on that old, nice old building.
Oh, my gosh.
That thing is an old house.
Yeah, they're at 800 KempBoulevard is the actual address.
And it's the house.
I know a little bit ofbackground on this.
So it was a house that wasbuilt in 1922, I believe.

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So it's over 100 years old.
And you do an IT work for themout there.
Old structures like that posesome special challenges when you're
Doing any sort of upgrades, updates.
Basically they've taken ahouse and converted it into a restaurant.
That's a huge challenge in andof itself, just doing that.

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Then you try to integrate allof the other IT stuff that you need
because you need point of sale systems.
You got front of house, backof house stuff.
You got all this differentstuff going on.
All this communication has to happen.
And so it poses its challenges.
But they did a reallymagnificent job with this place.
Yeah.
Well, one of the challenges onWI fi, for instance, and they first

(05:28):
opened up, they didn't go inand redo any of, of the walls or
whatever because the.
But it was plaster and thatmesh in there.
And I'll tell you, WI Fi.
Oh my gosh.
It doesn't, it doesn't like that.
Yeah, that thing I haddesigned where we put WI fi in and
everything on that.
But every room nearly.

(05:48):
But anyway, now.
But when they, they had theflood, which was interesting, they
had to upgrade.
Not even just upgrade.
They had to install a firesuppression system.
Yes.
Which involved pipes, thesereally thick pipes.
And then the big freeze came along.
Then it flooded.
Oh my gosh.
And so they, they have tomaintain that.
But they had to pull out allthe walls nearly on every room and

(06:11):
everything.
And so now it's just normalwhat we have in most of our homes.
So the WI fi has gotten better.
So.
Well, it's a.
But the food is even better.
The food is good.
I know.
Are reservations required todine there?
Believe it is, but they, I know.
They do some, they do somespecial events do require reservations.
Better.
You're better off definitelygetting reservations.

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I don't know for sure.
But Sean, basically, Sean Sheriff.
Sheriff is, he's the, the headchef and, and the manager of the
place.
He's a really nice guy.
He's.
He, he.
He's done a phenomenal jobover there and making sure everything's
going.
And so then you have, I guessthen you have Chef Anon.

(06:53):
And of course, you know, JohnHershey was of course the, the creator
of the thing, of the whole thing.
But anyway, yeah, just getover there, make reservations.
Call.
It is on the higher cost side.
Just keep that in mind.
But it is very good.
They've got little specials around.
I guess this week maybe theyhad a hamburger special and all that.
But everything I've been toldhas been awesome.

(07:16):
People love going there.
I would say this qualifies asa higher end, four star, perhaps
five star restaurant.
Yeah.
If you want, if you want torate it.
Right.
Okay.
That's that's how you wouldrate it, you know.
Yep.
So come.
Just tell them that we sent you.
Yes.
Tell Sean especially.
Say, hey, Sean, Terry.

(07:36):
Of course, he may not.
Have you met Sean?
No, I haven't.
He won't know me.
Yeah, well, tell him Terryfrom MacTech.
Told you, you drop my name,you're just gonna get a blank.
Look, give him his name.
There you go.
800 Cat Boulevard, Foxhole Restaurant.
Yeah.
And they are on Facebook, ofcourse, foxhill tx.com and then,
of course, I said that that'stheir website.
And then the Facebook justsearched for Fox Hill Restaurant,

(07:58):
and they've got.
Yeah, they tell you everythingthat's going on.
And there's some of the plate.
Oh, yeah, look at that.
That.
Oh, my gosh.
Somebody's got.
That looks good.
And then look at the.
I mean, everything's just madefrom scratch.
I mean, it is.
It is just local stuff.
Now, again, if they don't haveit on site, they.
They source it locally whenthey can as well.

(08:20):
They got some Yardbird there.
Yeah, they had.
Yeah, they got a patio.
They got.
Man, they got all kinds ofstuff out there, man.
It's.
It's nice.
So go check it out.
Poultry on the hoof.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
And then boom.
He was walking around 30minutes ago.
Now.
No.

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800 Kent Boulevard, Foxhole Restaurant.
Coming up here in just a few moments.
Wichita County CommissionerMickey Fincannon is going to join
us.
We're going to talk about afew things, but principally, we're
going to talk about this solarfarm that is proposed for Bourbonneau,
Texas.
Not a definite yet.
It's a proposal at this point,but it is moving forward.
The process is moving forward.

(09:01):
And he's got some greatinformation for us.
He'll tell us what he knows,share his insights on it when we
come back here on Get It Right.
Textile.
Stay tuned.

(09:35):
Hey, welcome back to Get ItRight Texoma with myself, Mike Hendren,
Terry McAdams.
And our special guest, as wementioned earlier, is Mickey Fincannon,
the wichita County Precinct 2 Commissioner.
Good morning.
How are you this morning?
Good.
Glad to have you here.
How many precincts are there?
There are four.
Four.
But in Wichita county, thereare actually five.

(09:56):
Five is not.
Is not elected a position or nothing.
We just.
It's a budgetary item for some equipment.
Equipment we carry.
So if you ever hear in courtthat there's a Precinct 5, that's
what it's about.
Oh, God.
It's a shared equipment, butthere is a listed precinct.
Obviously there's Sometechnical reason you'll do this?
Well, there's some equipment.
There's some equipment in thecounty that are literally are very

(10:16):
expensive equipment that wedon't need to own individually.
So we keep it in one and share it.
Oh, just to save taxpayer money.
Okay, interesting.
It's a part of the legalstructure of all the.
Oh, so you care about savingvery much taxpayers money.
Wow.
Here we have that locally.
We actually have peoplelocally to do that.

(10:38):
You're unfortunately, yournational representatives do not.
Sometimes don't.
Yeah, well, they're workingthat way.
Well, we're trying to.
Trying down.
Yeah.
Fortunately you've been acounty commissioner for how long
now?
Went into office at the end of 2019.
Right.
At before the 2020.
So into your sixth year.

(10:58):
In my six year.
Good grief.
Where does time go?
It has flown by.
It's flowing for sure.
It has flown by.
Yes, it is.
It's busy.
It's always.
There's always something goingon at the county.
Budgetary issues I'm guessingare probably the biggest things you
all tackle.
It is budget takes numerousmonths throughout the year.
Once we start, we'll start in May.

(11:19):
Well, matter of fact right nowwe've already started putting together
budgets for 26.
So by the time all thosebudget hearings go meet with every
department, takes a long timeto get them through.
Do all the public meetings, doall the input from all the different
departments.
There's several.
There's a lot of meetings thatgo into it.
I was going to say it's notlike it's something you can hash

(11:39):
out in half an hour or so.
I mean it's months ofwrangling and picking things apart
and trying to decide, okay,well what do we need, what do we
not need?
What can we.
You know, you have to, youtry, you try to be a good steward
of the taxpayers money.
And that requires a lot ofexamination of what's being done
and what's being planned.

(11:59):
Right.
And at the county level, as Iwas explaining here earlier, there's
so many things that are thecounty government primarily we're
told what we have to do.
Right.
So we have to meet thoseminimum requirements that are required
by the legislation.
You know, taking care of allthe court systems, all the prosecution,
all the defense.
But you got to think everydepartment in the county is almost

(12:21):
like a standalone littlebusiness that you're having to budget.
So whether that's veteranaffairs or whether that's a, you
know, the tag office, whateverit is, there's.
They're all separate by the way.
I want to comment on thecounty annex.
Man, was that remodel a longtime coming.
It was.
There was.
What was it, probably 60, 70years since that place has been.

(12:43):
You.
You brought.
You.
You managed to bring it out ofthe 1960s.
You really did.
I want to pause one moment here.
Does that mean anything to us?
That's a problem.
That's your drive.
Okay.
We can just go off of the.
Okay.
If you want.
Okay, we can do that.
We can troubleshoot that.
Okay.
All right, so we'll come backto that.
Yeah, it was the county annex building.

(13:08):
It just looked archaic for so long.
Everything looked like it wasstuck in the 60s.
And now it looks very modernand very simple, and it seems to
operate better.
It is definitely laid out better.
And the logistics part of thatfor citizens coming in and out has
been a lot better, more streamlined.

(13:28):
We seem to get people in andout a lot faster, which.
And that's one of the.
One of the departments in thecounty that really deals with the
public and really needs tohave that good.
That good feel when you comein and out, because we are here to,
you know, give service to thecounty residents.
So that's one of those right there.
That's very much public.
That needs to be done.

(13:48):
Right.
And Tommy.
Tommy over there does a great job.
Yeah, Tommy Smythe does agreat job.
I know that the county, ofcourse, the county jail facilities
have now moved out closer tothe edge of town.
And you've got.
You've got a new jail facilityout there.
The.
The downtown courthouse andjail facilities there.
I know.
Is it 30th District Court thatjust underwent a major remodel?

(14:09):
Yes.
And today at one, I believe atone o', clock, they're doing their
grand opening for the district court.
You want to go, Ben?
It would be worth stopping byand just going.
It's.
It's amazing at what it looks like.
It does look nice.
Yeah.
I was.
I was.
The last time I was by there,they were probably 75% finished with
it, and it already looked athousand times better than it did

(14:31):
before.
And it's.
It's a shame that we had to doit for the reason we did it and move
all that up.
But part of it.
It's also a blessing.
I mean, a lot of this remodeldone in the county right now, you
know, you go back to Covid,and when that stimulus money started
coming out, that was given tocounties and cities throughout the
nation.
Yeah.
That money is really what hastaken care of most of these remodels

(14:54):
so it's not good.
I don't, I don't like any kindof government handouts, but if you're
going to get it, we were ableto spend it for something that really
needed to be done and thattook a burden off our taxpayers some
point down the road because atsome point we would have been paying
for that.
We would have been paying forthose remodels.
So.
But I know there are futureplans for more work on the courthouse.

(15:15):
There are, and it'll be.
I'm really.
Several of the commissioners,I think, are, Are ready to wrap up
most of this constructionbecause we've had so many projects
going on.
Oh, yeah.
And these went on at the same time.
You know, we had a flood inthe courthouse from a contractor.
A lot of these projects thatare going on that have gone on weren't
necessarily designed to go onat that time.

(15:37):
We had to move them up and wehad to do things, get it all going
at one time because ofcircumstances that arose.
Can we.
I just want to make sure thatbefore I, I think I hit the button,
but it's made me think about it.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm telling you that werecorded our backup.

(15:58):
Sometimes we have technicalcrap going on.
All right.
Well, one of the main things Iwanted to talk about with you today,
Commissioner, is this solarfarm project that's been announced
for Burt Burnett.
Yeah.
This has been a little, Iguess, a little controversial with
some folks.
And I'll put one word, addthat to what you said.
Possible.
Possible.
It's not, it's not 100%.

(16:19):
It's not guaranteed.
It's nowhere close to being a guarantee.
Right.
Right now, even as far alongas we are in this project, we're
probably only 55 to 60% chancethat that'll actually come to groundbreaking
and it.
And happen.
Well, give us a quickbackground on this.
On this solar farm for thosethat are not aware or don't know.
Probably.

(16:39):
And I didn't even bring thepaperwork with me.
I should have for date lines.
But probably, probably inearly 24 at that.
Probably in early to mid 24 iswhen the, when the solar project
company, there's a Samsung andanother company, it's Nympha or something.
I don't know that I'mpronouncing it correct, but that's

(17:00):
it.
They actually have.
There's a solar farm side ofthat and then a consulting side of
that firm, that consultingside of it.
I'm assuming they help them,you know, work on land leases, land
development, land location.
But they also deal with those.
Is helping them as far aslooking at any kind of tax incentives
or anything like that.
They help that side of it anyway.

(17:22):
We were contacted by them inmid, mid 24 about a possible.
They had actually alreadyacquired land.
They had worked out anagreement with the landowner there,
had found property that wouldwork, and they were wanting to talk
to the county to let them knowthat in the future they might be
wanting to file for a taxabatement because they were looking

(17:44):
at a.
Possibly a very largeinvestment into Wichita county at
the time.
There wasn't any details.
They had a pretty much areathey told us about where it was in
the first maps I saw includedpart of that being in the city of
Burke, part of it being in the county.
And the next time I.
And you realize when thesecome to the county, to the county

(18:05):
judge, they don't necessarily.
We get notified as acommissioner, usually just because
it's in our precinct, but thejudge is the one that originally
talks to them because at thistime it's still kind of just a possibility
out there in the air, right?
So nobody really acts onanything the further they get along.
The first thing we told them,the judge told them, is first and

(18:27):
foremost, it can't adverselyaffect the city of Burke, Burnett,
and it cannot adversely affectthe Shepherd Air Force Base.
So before you can do anything,you really need to get it signed
off on shepherd and you needto get it signed off on by the city
of Burke.
Okay?
That's pretty much what theyhave to do because we can't affect

(18:48):
Shepherd Air Force Base,number one.
Can't, can't do anything that.
That would ever affect the flights.
So in the city of Berg, theywere also contacted.
I notified them and Samsungcontacted them because they wanted
to see if there was anythingthat they could or couldn't do, but
ended up that that projectmoved right outside the city limits

(19:09):
of Irk.
And that was one of thebiggest things I had said right at
the beginning is the originalthoughts that I heard was that that
was going to be along the I44corridor all the way up to the road.
And I was like, no, you can'tdo that.
I mean, I've been.
I'm from Burke, I love Burke,it's my hometown.
But you can't.
You don't want to build thatall the way up to the highway because

(19:29):
that hinders Burke fromdeveloping that corridor, that I44
corridor that could have a. Imean, in the future, 50 years down
the road, they could have alot of businesses on that corridor
that help, you know, stimulatethe economy of Berks.
Sure, of course.
Anyway, the next plans I sawshowed that solar farm quite a ways
back off I44.

(19:50):
I mean, that's a.
That's a monstrous field there.
There's thousands of acres outthere, but yes, that it pushes it
further back toward the Redriver off that corridor.
This is the number.
800 acres is something, Ithink the.
Actual solar farm probably inthe 860.
860.
Okay.
Or somewhere like that.
You know, they've.
They've discussed anywherefrom 600 acres to 900 acres, but

(20:13):
I think it's going to bearound 860 the way it's looking.
Okay.
But you know, these are allstill plans that are.
Right.
Being.
Everything's just weighed inbalance whether or not it's going
to be something that'll beworth building here.
Now, my understanding is.
Is the Department of Defense,Shepherd Air Force Base, they've
already signed off on it, saidwe will not be adversely affected.

(20:33):
Is that they have to do.
Yes, they have to do a glare.
I forget the proper word forit, but basically it's a glare study
to see if it affects the pilots.
Right.
And they signed off on everything.
They're good with it.
Okay.
All right.
So no windmills around here.
These are.
It isn't in part of the flightpath of some of the planes, but they
said it's not an issue.
Okay.
They won't have any issue with it.

(20:54):
So.
So they're.
They're in the process ofclearing hurdles.
Right now, and that's.
See if it's viable.
Feasibility study.
Feasibility.
So basically what it all boilsdown to.
Yeah.
Now, how.
How would this benefit Wichitacounty and the city of Burke, specifically,
How do we.
How do we benefit?
Because I'm a Burke resident, too.
So how do we benefit from this?

(21:16):
I'm a Burke resident and I'mnot a.
And I'm not a pro.
I'm not a green energy person.
I'm not a pro solar.
I'm not a pro windmill.
I mean, you're not anti.
Necessarily.
I'm not necessarily anti.
But what we do need in thestate of Texas, I am involved in
a lot of.
A lot of meetings, whetherthey be here, whether they be in
Austin, whether conferences Igo to.

(21:37):
One of the biggest thingsthat's brought up in Texas is energy.
Yes.
We have, you know, we have athousand people a day moving to Texas.
We do.
And we need energy, whether itbe solar, whether it be wind, whether
it be nuclear and we have ourown grid.
Right.
For the most part, except forEl Paso.
And, you know, I mean, peoplecan say what they want.

(21:57):
And a lot of people think thatthe government's just handing out
money to these solar farms,and that's not the case.
They're not paying for thesefarms to be built.
These are private investorsthat are putting this money up and
that are doing this now, justlike here.
If they're going to invest,they're looking at investing 190
to 200 million dollars on asolar farm.
If you're going to invest 190million dollars in our county, then

(22:19):
I would go to our county courtand ask for a tax abatement.
Sure.
Because that could save mesome money down the road.
And I'm sure they will also ask.
I'm sure there are federal taxbreaks if they're creating energy.
No different than they wouldif they were creating a nuclear energy
or whatever kind of energyyou're producing.

(22:40):
There's tax breaks out thereto help you if you're helping.
If you're producing energy.
Yeah.
So I don't, I don't thinkthat's necessarily a bad idea.
What I'm, I'm not, I'm not aperson that advocates for handing
out money to gov.
To anybody.
Not as a handout, but if thetax abatements, how that all works

(23:00):
and something that people needto realize.
If a company came here andbuilt a solar farm or a wind farm
outside the city limits.
Right.
Built it in the county with.
There was no regulations, really.
If they didn't ask for a taxabatement, then we couldn't get anything.
They could just go out thereand build it, never tell us.
And we couldn't make sure thatthey're doing it, this.

(23:21):
Doing it the way it should be done.
But at least if they ask fortax abatements, we have some teeth
and we can negotiate whatneeds to be done in the placement
of that solar farm.
Like right now, that solarfarm is looking at.
It's going to be in the ETJ ofBurke Burnett and it will affect
their, their fire department.
They have a, you know, a paidand a volunteer fire department that

(23:42):
will have to.
They would be the first callif there was a fire out there.
And if there's a fire outthere on a battery facility, they
need to be trained how to do it.
They might have to have somespecialized equipment.
I don't know.
I don't know what's required.
But we will find all that out.
But what I'm getting at Isthat's all stuff that we can put
in an abatement agreement thatwe can make them basically prepare

(24:05):
for, help the city of Burkeprepare for it.
If we didn't have that taxagreement, we wouldn't have.
We couldn't do anything.
Right.
You see what I'm saying?
Right.
Right.
So there is some.
There's some claw back thereto make sure that we can negotiate
a deal properly.
Right.
You get some benefit thatbenefits the whole community from
maybe an increased safe.
I say safety capability, but.
But the, the fire departmenthaving even a better capability to

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do other things.
Right, right.
That maybe all are deficient now.
You can kind of work that in potentially.
And, and something people, alot of people don't realize.
And this is why everybody'slike, well, that won't help the city
of Burkin because it's not inthe city of Burke right now.
That same.
That one piece of propertybrings in $1,020 a year in taxes.
One piece of property, $1,020.

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Even if this company were toget a full tax abatement, what they're
asking for, the county wouldprobably still make 2 to $300,000
a year at year one off thatsame piece of property.
And it would go up from there.
Right.
So it has the potential tomake millions of dollars in taxes

(25:12):
over 10 years instead of10,000, $10,000 in 10 years.
So if you don't, you have torealize anything that we do to build
up our business tax base.
Yes.
Takes tax base pressure off ofhouseholds, period, in the county.

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That's the way it works.
Your budget, you have so muchmoney that you have to have to create
the budget.
If more of that money comes inoff businesses, then less comes in
off household.
Well, it's the same talk we'vehad with Ron Kitchens about some
of these server farm serverfacilities hosting facilities that

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we're looking at.
And those are a huge amount.
There's a very high density ofvalue in a small.
In one building.
In one building.
So that right there gives in those.
Those proposed server farmsthat we're looking at could double
the tax base of Wichita countyin a couple of years.
One, you know, a couple of bigprojects like that could do.

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And a lot of people are like,well, how can so and so have such
a low tax rate?
You know, in the metroplex andthe booming, booming area that costs
more to live in, why is theretaxes less?
And that's why.
Because they have thosebusinesses that are being built and
bringing in that tax base tothat community.
They're able to spread thatburden out over a wider area.

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Correct.
Because there's more, simpleas that.
There's more equipment in thatbecause you're, you're, I don't know,
making up stuff.
But your vehicle in yourgarage at home is not being taxed,
whereas the vehicles at a business.
So, so that's that propertytax business.

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Property taxes and so forth.
So yeah, so different.
So yeah, so.
So it's, it's.
And there's a huge economicbenefit over a period of time that
I just think if everybodywould recognize that, hey, this,
this can, this can benefit us all.
Right?
We can all win from this.
And there's other benefitstoo, also that.
I mean, this is something Iwas me and you were talking about

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earlier, but bringing a namelike Samsung in to build a project
in Wichita county really andtruly is a, that's a, that's a wake
up call to other businesses.
Yeah, other parts of the, Imean, other.
There's tons of businessescoming to Texas right now.
They're all looking for placesto go.
Luckily right now in WichitaCounty, Wichita county, well, Barger

(27:37):
county, this area, we're in agreat location because the way the
grid's laid out, the powerlines, we have actually electricity
available here that they don'thave in the Metroplex, they don't
have in Austin, they don'thave in San Antonio.
So a lot of those businessesthat are needing power are looking
more and more to north centraland West Texas to get into those

(27:58):
areas because they have thepower infrastructure, the grid ability
there to tie into.
Right.
Those.
If you bring a name likeSamsung in, though, other companies
that are looking at where togo in Texas to build new things,
to build manufacturing plants,to build investment, they look at,
well, Wichita county.
They, you know, the citythere, the county's there, the workforce

(28:20):
there really worked with this company.
You bring those big names in,it draws other big names, right?
Well, yeah, even if, even,even if the company would come here
anyway, they may not even lookat us because we didn't have a Samsung
or whatever.
You know, they may not even.
That we may not even popped upon the radar, but now we're on the
radar.
Oh, now they're gonna at least come.

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Like now we have a chance, you.
Know, no different than, youknow, Ron Kitchens talking about
bringing Amazon here.
We're getting Amazon Warehouse here.
It's not as large as some of them.
It's a smaller facility, butonce you have one here, it's a lot
easier to justify bringinganother one here.
You have those names here.
You show that growth here andit spurs other businesses.

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Right.
And that's something thatwe've been struggling with for years
around here, is attractingthose big names here, getting them
here.
But I think the stage is beingset now for it.
I think, like you said.
Well, with the, with thepower, with the way the grid's laid
out and the fact that we dohave surplus power that we could,
we could sell and they could utilize.
Right.
It's, you know, now there's awin, win situation setting itself

(29:24):
up here for those companiesand for us.
And as a elected official,I've always been very pro business.
I'm, I'm super pro business.
But it's not like we aselected officials, unlike Ron Kitchens,
we're not out.
We're not out solicitingpeople to come here.
We don't usually find outabout them until after they've already
made an agreement.

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But we want to be that face,that a positive face when they do
come to town.
We're trying to work with them.
I don't ever want us to beknown as a county and a county commissioner's
court that doesn't want toattract business here.
We don't want to have that reputation.
We want to be open and workwith them however we can.
Well, there has been thisperception for a long time that Wichita

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Falls was not business friendly.
That's true.
I've said it myself.
I mean, you're a businessowner and you, You've dealt with
the.
And I've been involved a lotin the construction side of businesses
coming to Wichita Falls withthe different businesses that I own.
And I've talked to lots ofcontractors that don't want to come
back here and build anythingbecause they had such a hard time.
Right.
But we have, I believe wegradually started changing that,

(30:29):
that reputation.
And there's been a good.
There's been a good change, Ithink, at City hall to try to work
toward being.
Becoming more of a customerservice oriented and try to help
businesses rather than to justtell them no.
We've had that conversationwith Mayor Tim Short, with the previous
mayor, Steven Santiano.
We've had that conversationwith numerous county or city officials

(30:51):
in Wichita Falls.
That seems to be the core ofthe problem.
It's a customer service issue.
It is a customer service issue.
It's perception.
It's a lot of perception inthat, too.
There's some perception, butboils down to customer service instead
of.
But what I mean by that is, isthat I think I don't Think there's
a.
Maybe there is a few employeesor whatever that, that are in the

(31:11):
city or that work with peopletrying to get this business going.
But what I'm saying is I don'tthink there's.
There very many people withinthe government that don't care about
what they do and they don't.
It's not that they don't wantto do a good job necessarily, it's
just that they don't.
The emphasis at leadershiplevel up above is not hey take care
but the attitude, theperception that you care even if

(31:34):
you don't.
You know, it's just like in business.
I mean when you welcome acustomer in your business, you go
out of your way, hey, thanksfor coming in.
And you know, because Iwouldn't have a job without you.
If I met.
If I'm at my businesswelcoming people in, it's usually
a lot different than one of myemployees welcoming somebody in.
You, you have a.

(31:55):
You have more skin in the gameand you're gonna be a lot nicer.
And I.
In what you're saying aboutthat government deal, it is a top
down deal, having the proper attitude.
But there is.
And the problem was there wasa lot of people in areas of city
government that dealt withpeople one on one that really didn't
care.
And that's the problem.
If you have people there thatdon't care and you're.

(32:16):
If you're one of the higherups in the city and you start hearing
stuff like that, then you needto take action to correct that.
Well and you need to hire forpeople that care about.
What is that?
I don't.
I.
You can have the besttechnical skill in the world and
you come in here and ask for a job.
If you don't, if you don'thave a good attitude and care about

(32:37):
taking care of people, youmay, there may be a better job somewhere
else.
I'll train somebody beforewith that.
I can take something like that.
I can.
So anyway, one, one quickthing about the back on the solar
thing.
What have been the opposition,the reasons for opposition for this?

(32:59):
What have been the concerns?
And there's most, I meanthere's been concerns as far as the
safety of those.
What kind of negative impactsthere are to the environment and
the consulting company thatcame to the court and talked and
its own.
You can go back and look atour minutes of the court and watch
the video of it.
Very knowledgeable information and.

(33:19):
And report they gave to us.
How everything is nowadaysreally and truly.
The only thing that in myOpinion what I was looking at, you
know, there's going to bebattery storage facilities there
with it too.
Those battery storage facilityare basically like a Conex that's,
you know, they store, theystore energy in those battery backs,
but they are built in nowadayswith all the safety features that

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are in them.
I mean, they have, they shutdown if anything's overheating, they
can lock it down.
They have fire suppressionbuilt into them.
They got, they got fans inthem that open up to clear out any
heat and then they'll seal upafter the heat's gone and fire suppression.
So really they're pretty safe.
Is it lithium ion?
They're lithium ion.
And we actually have a wholebattery safety program just for little

(34:05):
batteries that are in yourphone and your computer.
And we have to be careful.
And there's a lot to that.
It out gases, it can causeheadaches and all this other stuff,
but it's really temporary.
But I can imagine that.
I mean, we've seen Tesla's,you know, fire lately too.
And that's one of the things Ieven said during the last city council

(34:26):
meeting I was at in Burke ishaving this, this battery pack out
there on a.
In a field with all the firesuppression and safety built into
it, to me is probably saferthan having a Tesla driving down
the road and getting.
In some ways.
Yeah, in some ways.
And we, I mean, they'redriving everywhere, all over town.
So there's, there's.

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I can see some issues and somethings that would worry me, but along
with any technology, anyenergy source, there's always a danger.
Sure.
I mean, you're creating anenergy that you're trying to harness.
Right.
So whatever it is.
But.
And the, the next biggest.
To answer your question,probably the next biggest thing when
it all boils down to it, ispeople don't like the look of, of

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it and they don't want to.
They would rather have a greenfield out there than a solar farm.
And I don't disagree with that.
And the neighbors that haveland there, I 100% agree with them.
You know, I happen to livesouthwest of Burke in the county.
I have a farm and there's.
I love to be able to go out myback door and look at a wheat.
I live out in Clay County.

(35:29):
It's not green all year, but Ibought it so I could look at it.
So, you know, you can't really.
Why should it be the citizensof Burke deciding what an individual
does with his farm?
That gets back to thatproperty rights deal.
And that deal was Agreed upon,worked out and rented before I ever

(35:53):
found out about it, before thecounty ever found out, before the
city ever found out.
And I think it's, I don't knowthat it's a good thing to step on
the rights of a landowner ifhe's wanting to do something with
his business.
I've had lots of calls throughthe years, putting up billboards
on my property, antennas on myproperty, solar farms on my property.

(36:14):
Those companies send outletters to everybody that owns property
along a path that they'reinterested in.
And if somebody sends them aletter back saying, yeah, we might
be interested in it, let us know.
That's how they do that.
They don't.
They have to find somebodywilling to sell or rent their property
before they can do anything.
So is this what this is, is arental deal?

(36:35):
I think it's a long term lease.
Now, in this tax abatement,something that wasn't brought up
a while ago, that something'salways worried me.
These solar farms and thesewindmill locations, you know, after
10, 20, 30 years, however longthey're there, who is required to
pull all that out of theground when it's done?
Because that's something thatreally bothers me.

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In this agreement, in this taxpayment, we're requiring them to
put up a bond that says whenthey're done, if they leave there,
everything has to go.
The cement, the ground, allthe steel, all the structures, it
has to be taken back down to farmland.
Right.
Just like it was before theygot there.
And if they came in and builtthat outside of the, if they came
in and did that without a taxabatement, we have no way to make

(37:18):
that happen.
You know, they could gobankrupt in five years and walk away
from it and just leave that track.
You have leverage in this tohave a platform to discuss.
That's, it's, it's not areally a, it's a straight up negotiation.
I mean, they won't get it ifthey can't abide by her what we want.
Right, right, exactly.

(37:40):
But if they decided, no, we'renot, we'll just forego it.
They could.
You're saying that for themost part that as long as they meet
environmental and otherrequirements by law, then they could
just do whatever they want.
Well, you would kind of expectthat if that company, if they're
serious about beingenvironmentally friendly, they would
not disagree with returningthe land to its original state.

(38:04):
Once the lifespan of thissolar farm is done, or once they've
done all they can do with itand it's time to move it somewhere
else or they can no longerexpand or grow there.
You know, they can't acquiremore land to grow it.
If they need to grow it, theyneed to go to a larger area, whatever
their reasons for not beingthere anymore.
But it has to go back.
But it has to go back to theoriginal state.

(38:25):
That's in part of ouragreements also that, that has to
happen.
Which to me that's a huge thing.
Oh yeah.
You know, a lot of these solarfarms, they have concrete and not
solar.
The wind generator farms havea concrete structure that's underground
that's so massive that youcan't get it out.
Yeah.
So yeah, I'm real big on beingable to take it back down.

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I know I've talked to numerouspeople that, on both sides of the
wind farm issue.
And the one thing that they doboth agree on is for the most part
is that when those wind farmsare decommissioned or whatever they
call it, you know, when theyfinally, when their lifespan is over,

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the one thing you're left withis all that concrete in the ground
that would cost millions ofdollars to get removed.
If you could ever remove it all.
If you, I mean I'm sure thattechnology, we could get it all out,
but it would take, it wouldtake a lot, a lot more work than
what any.
It would be very, very costlyand it would take a long time to

(39:28):
do it.
It's literally thousands oftens of thousands of tons of concrete
in the ground to support that structure.
And so it's, it's a.
The solar farm plan sounds alot more basic, a lot more straightforward
to me in terms of what happenswhen you have to go remove this stuff.

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And I don't know, I don't knowall the technical side of it.
I don't.
Solar farm produces them amuch electricity as a wind generation.
I don't think it does, butbecause either way 24 7.
Well, it can't run 24 7.
But I don't think a solar farmwill actually work either if you
don't use battery storage.
I think you have to have thatbattery storage to be able to produce

(40:15):
electricity and sell it whenyou need to sell it at.
Well, I mean obviouslyCalifornia has been doing this for
a long time before evenbattery technology was cost effective,
but now it's cost effective towhere it literally is down in price
so that we can store.
That's one of the whole things.
And, and that's why if you'regoing to get a solar system at your

(40:35):
house, that's one of thethings you really ought to consider
is storing it, because that'sthe whole thing is that.
Yeah, it's only good for that period.
But you're probably producingmore electricity during the day than
you're going to use.
And so storing it is definitely.
Well, the way go in.
The way it was introduced tous is these storage facilities, unlike
your house, they store becausethey produce all day.

(40:59):
Right.
But they store it and sell itwhen peak times are, when they need.
When.
Because the rates fluctuateall day long.
Right.
In the electrical industry.
So you might be able toproduce it and save it for two hours
after dark and then sell it.
Right.
Because the energy prices goup different hours of the day.
So they're selling it at thepeak time.

(41:21):
Right.
And they're.
And they're probably storingit excess.
They're planning to haveexcess so that they can do that.
They're optimizing the landand the facilities and batteries
and everything to do that.
And that's one thing that'salso looked at Wichita county several
times is just these storagefacilities because they buy electricity

(41:42):
at lower times of the day.
When it's lower, they store itand then resell it when it's higher.
And that's all that batterycenter does.
Right.
I haven't thought about that.
Yeah, that's an interestingbusiness model right there.
Yeah, there's a lot of companies.
I mean, there's a lot ofcompanies doing that, and there's
several in Wichita county thathave looked at this county for that
reason.
And there's still some on thehorizon that might come.

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But as of right now, I don'tbelieve there's any.
Well, buy low, sell high.
I mean, it's a commodity justlike anything else.
If you want to make money witha commodity, that's how you got to
do it.
You buy low, sell high.
It's basically.
It's.
It's deferred.
It's deferring that becauseyou can produce it.
But the whole grid, though.
Ha.
You can't just.
The grid doesn't have built inwithout these facilities a way to

(42:26):
store it.
So they.
It's on demand.
They.
They turn on and off thesewindmills as they need more power.
They're just switched in onthe whole thing.
And then that's what the solarfarm during the day, if.
If, you know, if they needmore electricity, then they can switch
it in.
But just.
But they're wasting time andmoney and wind and all of that.

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Well, I can see where our areawould be an attractive place for
this.
I mean, we do have a lot ofsunny days.
It's one of the reasons wehave Shepherd Air Force Base here
is we have a lot of goodflying weather.
And so, you know, for.
From June through, you know,August, September, we have a lot
of really nice sunny,sometimes very hot days that, you

(43:09):
know that this stuff could work.
So I can see where the benefit is.
I'm not a huge fan.
I'm like you.
I'm not a huge fan.
I'm not.
Not a green energy proponentin that way.
I'm not some kind of a nut outhere going, yeah, we got to reduce
our carbon footprint.
No drill, baby, drill.
But I'm not against.
I'm not against it.
I probably wouldn't be up.
And there's some talk rightnow, you know, lots of these mini

(43:30):
nuclear plants being built.
They seem to be a lot safer.
There's ton.
There's a tremendous amount ofthem out there and there's a lot
of them looking at Texas right now.
Well, that's.
It ain't Three Mile island or Chernobyl.
Okay.
It's a different, different technology.
It's.
It's just like back in theday, cell phones.
I don't know if everybodyknows this, but you had one or two

(43:52):
or minimal number of towersthat tried to service a lot of area.
But then as technology and ourrequirements, our needs have gone
up, we go down to thesesmaller microcells around as well.
And so that's when you'regetting super fast speed on your
phone.
Yes.
Like a gig or 500 meg.
You're probably on a microcellthat doesn't have the distance.

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And that's what the mininuclear thing, you're spreading out
the around.
And it's also more efficientbecause you're closer to the source
of the electricity.
Because the longer you have totransmit that across and they have
lost.
They build them on mini grids.
So you'd build one to takecare of a city or take care of a
city and a Air Force base.

(44:35):
Right.
You know, one could probablytake care of our whole county.
So it all depending on whatyou're building.
But they say the waste in them and.
But there we go.
We're talking about technologythat not is not here yet.
We're talking about technologythat's coming.
No different than, you know,people are complaining about these
solar farms the way they look.

(44:56):
I'm sure Burke Burnett didn'tlook great back when there was a
thousand oil derricks either.
I was going to say, yeah.
I mean I've seen pictures of it.
It's just not a pretty city,it's not a pretty town.
So we go through different stages.
I mean, we're all old enoughto realize that technology changes,
things change.
Right.
In 30 years, that solar farmprobably won't be there.
We just need to make sure that we're.

(45:17):
That we're doing what's thebest, making the best decisions for
us at this.
Right.
All right.
Mean, you just got to takeadvantage of what's available.
But on technology, what arethere any.
Where are we at?
And maybe you're not involvedin this part of it, but trying to
get the Internet out to allthe different rural areas.
Where are we at in that?
Because, you know, there wasthis initiative within the last two

(45:39):
or three years.
Federal funding, and I stillthink, you know, that was originally,
that was supposed to be partof arpa.
We were supposed to spendmoney on infrastructure technology
for that.
But then right after that, thefederal government was talking about
how they were looking at doinga, you know, a broadband Internet
funding throughout the country.
I'm not, how can I say this nicely?

(46:03):
The.
I'm not necessarily a bigproponent the way they were trying
to do it at first because whatyou had is you had every county in
every city basically puttingin their own broadband and they don't
attach to no other city or county.
I would have rather that beenstopped right there and backed up.
And if you're going to do it,let's do it statewide.

(46:24):
Let's have a state plan to doit throughout the whole state where
they all link together and tiein together.
I think us going in there andbuilding towers in a county or a
certain little small regionlike that that's not integrated with
any other region is a portionnot spending money properly.
Well, that's like buildingyour own little power grid here and

(46:44):
not tied into where anybodyelse can get it.
Because if you lose it, you can't.
You have no redundancy in itat all.
And you may be buildingsomething that cannot be connected
later on to the.
And that's why I would ratherthere be.
If we're going to do it andthe federal government's wanting
to pay for that and they'rewanting to push it then.
Then create a plan, use smartenough people that can tie in a whole

(47:05):
country and put it alltogether on one kind of plane.
Well, what they.
What, what.
The way it has myunderstanding and my experience so
far is because I'm out in Claycounty and Spectrum got the contract
from the federal government tofund Putting it out in our rural
area.
And so each of the companiesthere's here we have Centrio.

(47:26):
Now we have of course AT andT. We got comcell, I think out of
Windthorse, we've got.
I said Spectrum.
I don't know if I said them again.
But anyway, we've got severalcompanies that the larger.
A lot of the larger companies,some are local, some are not.
Centrio's local.
Winthor Comm.
Sells local.
But then obviously Spectrum isa big national company and they're

(47:49):
dependent depending wherethey're at, they're either self funding
or they've gotten some dollarsfrom the federal grant.
But I think it was reallydesigned ultimately that the bigger
companies got it.
And so it.
But it is by area, by area andmaybe it is related to the county
or whatever.
And that's one of the thingsthat scares me.
If you have all these separatecompanies putting it in, are they

(48:12):
going to work together?
Because why would you want tohave a company right here in your
county?
Let's say Wichita Falls, wehad big infrastructure built up right
here and Lakeside Citycouldn't even use it.
That seems a poor design.
You need to have somethingthat everybody can link in together.
And I understand it from aninfrastructure standpoint.
I'm not in that business, butI also understand how the Internet's

(48:34):
all set up.
So ultimately, as long as youhave access, that is the primary
thing.
But what I don't like is, isgetting locked into a particular
company because sometimesthey, they suck and you know, or
that particular area sucks.
And that's where I think inFlorida, my sister lives in Panama
City.
The, those, the coax cablesfor that are cable.

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That brought the TV and the Internet.
They went and deregulated like electricity.
They said, well, there's onecompany is going to be responsible
for the lines, but you canpick any Internet company.
I thought that was kind of cool.
But if a company's investinglike AT&T years ago, that's the reason
AT&T had the pretty much thewhole country for years and years.

(49:19):
But of course over time withthe technology they were able to
it, you know, because theywere maintaining those lines.
They were losing money overhere, but making money.
And the government, federalgovernment guaranteed AT&T essentially
that hey, you're going to bethere and have it for a while.
So anyway, that in some waysthat's good, but that's why we have
the electricity.

(49:39):
Wichita County CommissionerMickey Finn, He's a Precinct 2 commissioner
here in Wichita County.
He's been our guest Today.
Is there anything going oncounty wise that we've not talked
about that you'd like to tossin today?
Not really.
We're, we're, like I saidbefore, we're coming up on budget
season.
There's, there's still several.
And we talked about it alittle bit there.

(50:00):
There's several businessesright now that are still looking
at Wichita County.
Yes, there's a.
Well, I would say there's alot of businesses looking at Wichita
County.
I think right now Wichitacounty is probably as close as I've
ever seen it to some realfinancial growth in investment, outside
investment coming to Wichita County.

(50:21):
And I'm going to continuepushing that.
I mean I love living in thecountry and I love having my farmland,
but I'm also all about Wichitacounty needs to grow.
Yes.
I mean if we can grow, we getinfrastructure people spending money
here, businesses spendingmoney here.
It draws people here, it drawsa better workforce here.

(50:41):
It brings higher paying jobsto the people that are already here.
And that's ultimately that'show you grow your economy.
You bring new dollars into theeconomy and the way you do that is
attracting other is outside investment.
Right.
And you gotta.
And not only outside butinside investment.
I mean you have a, you have alot of people here that are entrepreneurs
that have great businesses.
Sure.
That are, that are willing towork and when they see that investment

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by other people too, it makesthem a little bit more freely to
want to invest back in theirbusiness and keep business here and
invest more money.
Well, it creates moreopportunity for the small business
person.
As long as it's the right typeof business business.
Because there are somebusinesses and I'm, you know, pick
on Walmart.
I know Walmart gives us a lotof jobs but they, and it cost.
Us a lot of jobs.

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But you know, but I.
That back to that fair.
I mean just whoever has thebest service will get the business.
Yeah, sure.
If Walmart's not the bestservice, then they won't have the
best business.
I mean there's always somebodyelse that'll do it better.
Well, I differentiateourselves because you can buy an
iPad or whatever cheaper atsome places.
Right.
But your service.
Yeah, where we.

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But you don't find anybodythat knows.
I mean, and I have retailstorefronts too.
And I can't compete with the Internet.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm not trying.
I can't always.
I can't compete with it.
But you can't go into theInternet store here in town and lay
your hands on it and look at it.
And see what it's like or takeit over to my gun range and shoot
it in the gun range.
I mean so there's.
So you're, there's pros andcons and I tell customers all the

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time I said, you know, depends on.
I'm not.
I don't begrudge you forlooking for a deal.
Right.
Necessarily.
But keep in mind if, if, ifwhat I offer is not of value to you.
Okay, I get it.
And that's fine.
And you can, don't dismissthem because you can all.
You may win them over in time,but I'll just say that, that the
time they need that help andthey bought it on the Internet and

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they come to you, you.
You have an opportunity to winthem back.
You're not a jerk.
And I'll.
And I'll just throw a probecause you mentioned the gun range.
High caliber gun range.
I44 bacon switch.
And you take the bacon switchroad exit.
Outstanding.
Indoor gun range.
Outstanding.
Very, very top notch.
Very nice air cleaning system.

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And everything is just a nice.
It's a great place to shootand it doesn't matter what the weather's
doing outside.
That's correct.
You got a climate controlledplace to go shoot and it's great.
It's fun.
I hate the mosquitoes and the gnats.
Much better than that.
It's a whole lot better than that.
Wichita County Precinct toCommissioner Mickey Fincannon has

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been our guest.
Commissioner, thanks for beingwith us.
We appreciate it very much.
Look forward to having you back.
And it's a lot of good information.
Lots of information.
Thank you very much, guys.
Stay tuned.
We'll be back and wrap it uphere on Get It Right Tech Selma in
just a moment.

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All right guys, welcome backto Get It Right Texoma with the duo.
Yes, normally the trio.
That's just a Duke Trey willbe back with us in a couple of weeks
or something.
I don't know.
But anyway, that greatinformation from Commissioner.
Yes, yes, very much so.
And obviously if you, if youwant to reach out to him, you need
to do so through the county website.

(54:14):
You can reach him that way.
Just.
You just search for Mickey Fin can.
Which are county commissionerand it'll take you.
You'll find his email.
He is, you know, again, likehe said, you know, we're 55, 60%
there.
It's not, it's not.
It's not a guaranteed deal yet.
Yeah, not yet.
There's still, there's stillsome hurdles to clear.
But it does sound likesomething that particularly from

(54:37):
A tax based perspective hasthe potential to really benefit Wichita
County.
Right.
And more specifically Burke Burnett.
Right.
Oh yeah, just the peel.
Although it's probably not ahigh main.
I mean there's not gonna be alot of staff, small staff to maintain.
But tax base will help fromall the way Burke all the way down

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the entire county.
The whole county will benefitfrom it.
And then it's also part ofinfrastructure which then will benefit
in the long term forbusinesses coming into town.
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But yes, YouTube is wherewe're at.
And then now I am actuallytrying to look into Rumble trying
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I have, I, I've not researchedin a while but some reason I was
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