Episode 90: Critters, Coffee, Chambers and Chatter

The primary focus of this podcast episode is the recent electoral outcomes and their implications for the future governance of both local and national entities. We delve into the results of the Wichita Falls elections, highlighting the victories and notable contests that have established a new council, while also acknowledging the broader national context surrounding the presidential race. During our discussion, we reflect on the significance of voter turnout and the essential role that every single vote plays in shaping the political landscape. Furthermore, we analyze the evolving perspectives of the electorate, particularly among minority groups, and how these shifts may influence future campaigns and policies. As we navigate through these topics, we aim to provide our audience with a comprehensive understanding of the current political climate and its potential trajectory.

The Trio talks Electricritters and River Bend Nature Center, 8th Street Coffee House, an upcoming Chamber event and more.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Get It Right Texoma
• Riverbend Nature Center
• Wichita Falls Chamber
• A Street Coffee House
• Halliburton
• CarMax
• Eddie Hills Fun Cycles
• MacTech Solutions
• Lollie and Pops Sweet Shop

Links referenced in this episode:

• getitrighttexoma.com
• facebook.com/GetItRightTexoma
• youtube.com

Takeaways:

• In this episode, we explore the significance of local elections and their impact on community governance.
• The hosts discuss various upcoming events in Wichita Falls, particularly the Electric Critters event at Riverbend Nature Center.
• We emphasize the importance of subscribing to our YouTube channel for updates and short snippets of episodes.
• The conversation touches on the recent election results, highlighting the close races in city council positions and their implications.
• A key discussion revolves around the differing perspectives on national versus local issues, particularly in election contexts.
• The hosts reflect on the evolving nature of political affiliations and voter demographics in contemporary elections.

'Get it Right Texoma' presents a compelling episode that intricately weaves together local events, political insights, and cultural commentary, as articulated by hosts Trey Sralla, Terry McAdams, and Mike Hendren. The episode opens with an enthusiastic endorsement of the 'Electric Critters' event at the Riverbend Nature Center, a beloved tradition that showcases an enchanting display of lights and animatronics. The hosts urge the community to participate, emphasizing the joy and festive spirit that this event brings to the region, thereby reinforcing the podcast's commitment to promoting local culture and engagement.

As the dialogue unfolds, the conversation takes a serious turn towards the recent elections, where the hosts analyze the implications of the electoral outcomes for Wichita Falls. They celebrate the triumphs of candidates such as Whitney Flack and Robert Brooks, while also discussing the competitive nature of the at-large council race, which has advanced to a runoff. Through this analysis, the hosts highlight the significance of voter participation and the impact of local governance on everyday life. Their discussion serves as a reminder of the power of civic engagement and the necessity for community members to remain informed and involved in the political process.

In addition to the electoral discourse, the hosts also delve into the local dining scene, focusing on a

Episode Transcript

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You make this rather snappy,won't you?
I have some very heavythinking to do before 10:00.
Hey.
Welcome to another episode ofGet a Ride Texoma with the Trio.
Mike Hendren, Terry McAdams,Trey Serala.
We are thrilled to have youwith us.
We get together here to informyou, entertain you, educate you,

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even, and hopefully delight you.
Oh, yes, delight.
I like that word.
I don't know if anybody wouldlook at any one of us and associate.
The word delight, but anyway,I would.
Terry, maybe, but me or you?
Suave hair.
He's got the best hair of the.
Of the trio.

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Right.
By the way, when did.
How young.
Because you're not that old.
When did you start going gray?
How old were you when you.
Oh, gosh.
Were you an early gray guy?
Yeah.
You see him across probably 30s.
Yeah.
I have to look back a little bit.
You just seem like one ofthose guys who went gray young.
Yeah, my mom, same thing.
And my, my whole family on herside were early grayers, I guess.

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Yeah.
I don't, you know, I don't know.
I.
Trying to remember when I.
Of course, I've got more grayin my.
My goatee.
That's.
That's how I am too.
Yeah.
My hair and my hair.
But my hair started thinningout probably 10 years ago.
Yeah.
You know, my son, I love him,but he.
He got to.
He got to where he juststarted shaving his head.

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Yeah.
He's like, I'm not going tomess with this.
Sometimes that happens.
Start taking a razor to it,you know.
And a couple of Christmasesago, we bought him this.
This really cool razor.
You kind of hold it in yourhand like this and you just rub it
over your head.
Yeah.
And he thought that was thegreatest thing in the world.
You got a skull shaver, youknow, or love it turned.

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Yeah, he really.
He was.
It was like, I thought he wasgoing to cry on me or something.
I swear, he loved it so much.
Anyway, no, he's a good kid.
He just got married.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes.
We just had.
Had that.
So.
Anyway, life changes, man.
We got a lot to talk about here.
And before we get started,though, do visit our website, get

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Because not only do we dropepisodes on there, we have shorts

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and stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
So interesting little tidbitsof episodes.
So in case you don't have timeto watch a whole episode, but you
want to see something that mayentertain you or inform you or something
like that.
Yeah.
Little shorts that are likeusually less than a minute long.
Yeah.
So, you know, if you can'tstand 30 minutes or more and maybe
you can stand two.
There you go.
Anyway, let's get on with ithere because we got a lot to talk

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about.
This is going to be a busy show.
Electric critters coming upNovember 29th through December 21st.
Friday and Saturday nightseach week from 6:30 to 8:30 at Riverbend
Nature Center.
Yep.
And this is an event they'vebeen doing for a long time.
I don't know how many yearsthey've been doing this.
Lots and lots of lights, lotsand lots of animatronics and stuff

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like.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
So basically you walk theirtrails, you know, and they have all
this stuff.
Stuff set up.
It's really cool.
And you can go to theirwebsite if you just look for Riverbend
Nature.
Just Google Riverbend Naturecenter and you'll find their.
Their website.
And by the way, get involved.
If you've never been toRiverbend Nature center, it's a great
place to go.
It.
Is it just to check out.
Not even during ElectricCritters, but just go on a Saturday

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or Sunday or something like that.
It's a really neat slice ofthe outdoors right here in.
In Wichita Falls.
It sure is.
It really is really cool.
And they've been around formany years now.
And it's a.
It just.
It seems to get a little bitbetter with age.
It really does.
So anyway, that's coming upagain November 29th through December

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21st, Friday and Saturdaynights at 6:30-8:30 at Riverbend
Nature Center.
Then coming up, December 4th,Wichita Falls Chamber presents the
Small Business Series.
This is.
This is something you need toregister for.
Right.
Got to sign up for it.
I think there is a costassociated with it.
There might be, but that's thereason why we wanted to put it out
early so people can registeron it.

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Yeah.
But these are.
They have several different topics.
If you go on the Wichita FallsChamber website.
Yes.
You'll see what topics aregoing to be covered during this time
and see if it's something thatwould be interesting or informative
to you.
And I think you will find itinteresting and Informative and educational.
Kind of like us.
So anyway, that's coming upDecember 4th, Wichita Falls Chamber

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again.
Just Google the Wichita Falls Chamber.
You'll find that informationon that.
Each week we.
We try to focus on a localrestaurant or each.
I said week again, didn't I?
Each episode.
I don't know why.
I think we're weekly.
Maybe we are.
Anyway, each episode we try tofocus on a locally owned restaurant.

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And this time around, though,it's going to be a street coffee
house.
Now, I don't know, you can getfood there, but I don't know if you'd
necessarily classify them as arestaurant more so than a coffee.
No, they.
They sell.
They have a whole sandwiches now.
Oh, yeah, it's.
It's.
They.
They're.
They're called a coffee house,but I think, I think.
Well, I don't know if there'smore people that buy food than coffee,

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but if you go around therearound lunchtime or something like
that, there's almost food atevery table.
Yep.
So, you know, they make sandwiches.
They're really good.
The sandwiches they make arereally good.
Large variety of sandwichesare made there in house and so, so
good stuff.
Yeah.
And if you, if you're into,you know, a variety of coffees, especially

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cold coffees and that kind of thing.
Yeah, obviously they'll makeit happen.
I don't know because I don't,I don't eat, drink, I don't drink
any of that stuff.
But I will say this.
He's strictly a scotch guy.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
Oh, man, they got waffles.
Oh, yeah.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Apparently they have breakfast too.
Yes.
Pumpkin waffles at that.
Yeah.
You killed me on that.
Yeah, well, I don't know.

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I just like.
Yeah.
But hey, I try that.
When did pumpkin become likethe catch all ingredient for all
this stuff?
Pumpkin and cranberries havehell of a good publicists because.
Because everything turnedpumpkin a few years ago.
And then, and then cranberryshowed up in every damn thing.

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Well, it's probably Starbucksbecause maybe pumpkin spice latte
or whatever.
Yo, here's the thing.
You know, when we were kids, all.
I remember, the only time youever, ever even talked about pumpkin
was pumpkin pie and pumpkinroll and making jack o'lanterns you
know, to put out on the porchat Halloween or whatever.
That was it.
That was it.

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Then all of a sudden, one day,there's pumpkin spice this and pumpkin
waffles and pumpkin pancakesand pumpkin eggs and pumpkin.
Like I said, the NationalPumpkin Institute had a hell of a
press secretary there.
When you start serving pumpkinpork chops, we got a problem.
There you go.
Well, how about praline pecanFrench toast with bacon or sausage?

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That looks good.
That.
Anyhow.
Yeah, a street coffee house.
They're on the corner of 8th and.
Because they've moved, they'reacross from the.
Chamber of the Hamilton Building.
Right across should be like8th and Lamar.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it'sNathan Lamar.
Yeah, they were on 8th andIndiana at one time, and they moved

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down.
That was where they were originally.
Basically, it's where Wells.
Not Wells Fargo, Where aFidelity bank used to have a.
A bank down there.
Yeah.
And they've.
Right across from the chamber.
Right.
And they place.
I think they still utilize thedrive through.
Right?
Yeah, yeah, there's.
There's a corner there, butit's nice and it is.
It is a neat place.
It's a nice place to sit downtown.

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Like I said, the Hamiltonbuilding is right across the street
there.
It's on a corner, and they got.
A nice little room in the back.
You could probably reserve it or.
I'm sure they work with you onevents and stuff like that.
Pastry coffee house.
Go check them out.
All right.
Well, okay.
We're done.
Is that it?
Was there anything else?
Nah.
Yeah, it goes without saying.
Slow Newsweek, huh?

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There was an election.
What?
A little election.
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
Be careful how you say that, Terry.
I will say, though, I'm gladit's over for the most part.
We'll talk about one.
There's.
But the national election.

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I am.
I am so sick to the back teethon this damn national election.
Were your phones hammered?
Just text messages yesterday,day before.
I mean, Tuesday.
Seriously, I was getting liketwo and three a day, you know.
Oh, you mean to my people to.
Go out and vote and stuff?
Very little of that.
I knew that.

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A lot of people did.
I got very little.
Must be off somebody's radar.
Somehow I ended up on a list somewhere.
I guess I was getting two andthree a day.
Yeah, mostly fundraising text messages.
Right.
From Kamala Harris.
Because.
Because they identified you asa Harrison.
Identify as.
I got a friend who.
Who kept getting callingAllred messages, which, by the way.

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Well, we'll.
We'll go in order here.
Okay, so let's start with thelocal stuff, because there is a few
of these things to get into.
Wichita Fall city councilrace, I guess.
These are the winners.
So.
Whitney Flack, District 1.
By the way, Whitney Flack'sfamily, she's David Flack.

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Is her father in law, andAllison Flack is her mother in law.
David and Allison both andDavid's father also all served on
the Wichita Falls ISD board of trustees.
So the Flacks have a large.
The Flack family has a longhistory of public service in Wichita
Falls.
It's really good family, andI'm sure Whitney's going to do a

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great job.
And real quickly, I know Idon't want to be disparaging, but
I.
I almost have to say this.
Her opponent, I almost tied him.
I think he got six votes.
Really.
So I didn't even run and Ialmost hide the guy.
I don't even know who it was.
Yeah, I don't either.
That was a shawl lacking.

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Yeah.
Yeah, it was.
Robert Brooks wins in District 2.
Robert Brooks, father of TaliaBrooks, our Olympian from Wichita.
Okay.
All right.
Who was recently at the Olympics.
And then we had the at largeseat, which at large counselor basically
represents everyone in the city.

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Yeah.
Didn't mean it's a big dude.
It'd be a little guy, a womanor something.
And one of them is quite slender.
Anyway, it's good.
It's gone to a runoff now.
There were three where therewere three.
Or four candidates or three candidates.
Three candidates.
Former counselor Larry Nelsonfrom District 2, who obviously gave
up his seat to run at the at large.
Austin Cobbins and Pack, whichwe've had Austin Cobb and Sam Pack

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both on.
Would had Larry on, but henever contacted us.
See?
See?
See?
So I'm just going to tell you.
Right now, both of them on and.
Being on this show benefits.
You do not underestimate thepower of this podcast.
Ever.
It's a runoff now between Samand Austin.
Right.
And Sam did win by 162 votes.

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So if you don't think yourvote counts, folks, right.
This is.
Out of the whole entire cityof Wichita Falls, because everybody
who's a citizen of WichitaFalls was the treasure to vote.
Was able to vote for the citycouncil position because it wasn't
a district position.
Right.
162 votes was all thatseparated these two.
Not that it's going to end upin the matter and at the end, because
there'll still be a runoff.
But still, that's.

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That's pretty impressive.
Had there not been a thirdcandidate in this race, Sam would
be the.
Would probably have won.
It depends on whether Larrypulled Austin or Sam votes.
Because Larry had over 2,000votes, you know, again.
Yeah, it does.
But this is the thing, y'all.
Like he said, every Vote matters.
Every vote matters.
So we'll have a runoff, whichI'm assuming will be.

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There's a time frame for.
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
I'm sure it's going to bepretty close.
Yeah.
I was never involved in a runoff.
But I want to say January, butI may be wrong about that.
I'm going to.
And I'm going to say this in.
Both guys have been on the.
On the program, and I've toldboth these.
These guys this personally.
I, I've.
I was messaging back and forthwith them both on election night

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and, and stuff like that.
These are two really good people.
Yes.
I would like to at some pointsee both of these guys on city council.
Either one of them is going tomake a great.
Make a good counselor.
But.
But I think I would like tosee both of these guys on city council.
I know they both can't sit inthis seat at this time.
Right.
But at some point, if whoeverdoes not.

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Whoever does not prevail inthis, I would hope that that person
would.
Whenever their district seatcomes up, runs for their district
seat or something.
Both of these are really good dudes.
So, you know, I think giventhe makeup of the council that we
have now with, with Whitneyand Robert Brooks and Sam or Austin,
either one, we got a.
Wichita Falls.
Got a really good council.

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Yeah.
And then also you with thepeople that are there now.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got a really goodcouncil coming on here.
So.
And I think it's going to.
Jeff is still on there.
Jeff is still there.
Mike is still there.
Mike, back to Leongo.
Tim Short is our mayor.
And, And Mike.
And so, I mean, it's going to be.
I think some.
Some great things are going tohappen moving forward.
I think we've got some people.

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What I'm trying to say iswe've got people on the Wichita Falls
City Council now who I thinkare motivated and excited about carrying
this city forward.
I totally agree with you.
I think that's right.
I think they're motivated andexcited about it.
And Sam or Austin, either one.
Whoever does prevail, will.
Will help with that.
I think they'll.
They'll fit right into that.
Totally.
Totally.

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Wichita County.
Barry Mahler won hiscommissioner seat with 70.98% of
the vote.
Yeah.
Former City Councilor DeAndreChenault ran against him and Barry.
But Barry, you know, Barry'sbeen in district, that district,
that county precinct.
See, District, It's a precinct.
He's been the countycommissioner for a lot of years.

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Very well Liked good.
Very good county commissioner,by the way.
And very well known, very,very popular.
And did real well.
Yeah, he did.
City View had a school bondissue on their ballot and it failed,
which I think comes as no realshock to anybody.
Yeah, I think it failed.
Wasn't about by two thirds.
Yeah, it was a big margin.

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It was a big margin.
School bond elections aregetting tougher and tougher to do.
I think statewide they'regetting tougher to do.
And it all goes back to taxes.
It all goes back to, ofcourse, your school portion of your
taxes is.
The biggest portion of yourproperty tax bill is school taxes.

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It's split between two elements.
You've got your interest insinking INS&M and O, and then M and
O, maintenance and operation budget.
And by law, those have to beseparated out.
And so when you do these bondissues, whatever that tax is, that's
going to be applied to pay a bond.

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And I.
I almost wish we'd get awayfrom using the word bond.
All a bond is is a daggum loan.
Yeah, that's right.
It's borrowing money.
It's the d.
It's the district, thegovernment entity.
Could be a school district,could be his county, could be a city,
whatever.
Right.
It's the government entityability to borrow money.
Right.
They're selling bonds.
They're not going to the bankand borrowing money.
They didn't go show up to see Mr.

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Drysdale.
Right.
That's an old reference, if you.
Yeah, got that one, Mr.
Drysdale.
At the bank.
Yeah.
To get a loan, they go out tothe taxpayer or to the general public
and say, we like to sell bonds.
Yeah.
And then the public buys thosebonds and that money goes into the
school district.
The school district.
That's how they get their.
The money.
And then over time, the schooldistrict pays those bonds back with

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a certain percent of interest.
All right.
The fact of the matter is, ifyou're going to do a construction
project, you know, build a newschool, remodel multiple facilities.
Now, City View is a smalldistrict within the city of Wichita
Falls.
Right, right.
They have the high school,junior high, high school combined
in one facility, and then theelementary school up the street,

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which has been there since the.
Probably the 19.
Oh, that's what they wanted to do.
Is build a new 50s or 60s.
Yeah.
They wanted to build a newelementary school, according to their
website.
And it was going to be,depending on the value of your house,
between $45 a year increase upto $270.
An increase.
And that's up for a housebetween 125,000 and 250,000 and 250,000

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in value.
Which probably is probably thetop of the end.
I mean there may be somehouses that are over 250 on City
View, but there's a few,probably not very many.
Right.
And there's probably not a lotof houses that are under the hundred.
And was it 150,000, 125,000.
If you're, if you're 100,000towards the bottom end.
City View as well.
So that's.
Whoever came up with this,this graph probably did a really

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good job at looking to seewhat housing was.
Yeah.
Where the top is.
Yeah.
100.
I can tell you as a realestate agent, I can tell you in that
area, $125,000 home there.
Real estate agent who grew upmiddle class family.
Yes, I did.
Go ahead.
Yes, I did indeed.
$125,000 home there isbasically, it's a rental property,

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it's an investment property.
Most of those homes that fallin that 125 to $150,000 range are
purchased by individuals whoare then turning around.
They rehab them and then theyrent them out.
Right.
When you get above the 200,000mark, most of those are going to
be, not all of them, but mostof those are going to be homeowner
occupied, you know, the owner,owner, occupant type homes.

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There are a few that are abovethat 250 threshold.
You got a few, they're in the270, 280, 300.
Not very many.
There's not very many.
Not very many.
Small district.
The bond failed.
So next time.
Yeah, I heard a rumor thatthey're going to retool the bond.
They're going to bring itback, but they don't know if it's
going to be in the spring orthe fall of next year.

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They don't know yet.
This is just what I've beentold, that they're going to retool
that and they're going to comeback to the, to the draw.
Well, the need still exists.
Well, sure.
So, so yes.
I mean, and that's, that'sgenerally what happens.
School districts will go out.
I was involved as a, as aformer school board member who grew
up in a middle class family.
I have some experience with this.

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And that's what happens a lotof times.
You go out, you come up withwhat you, what you, your need.
You go out to the public andsay, okay, this is what we really
need to do this project andthe public says yay or nay.
And if they say nay, well, theneed doesn't go away.
You still, you still.
The facility need is stillthere, so you have to retool.
Okay, what can we cut?
Because obviously that's notgoing to work.
So what can we cut?

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What can we change to makethis more palatable for the public?
Well, let me throw this outreal quick.
One last thought on this.
How much did the issues thatcame up at City View in the last
year have anything to do withthe trust?
I don't know.
I don't think that it's beenthe last year.
I think that was two or threeyears ago.
Was that that long ago already?
Yeah, it's been a couple years ago.

(19:07):
Yeah.
Or whatever.
But that's still.
I don't know.
I don't know what percentagethat would have.
Just based on the individualsthat I know that I'm in contact with
personally that live in that area.
I will tell you that for someof them, yes, it was.
It had an impact.
For some of them, it did.
But whether it was two thirdsof the people, probably not.
You know, I mean, there wasprobably something.

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You could be talking a fewhundred people, you could be talking
a couple thousand people, Idon't know.
But, but you're talking.
I mean, they're, they're afairly, fairly large population over
there.
Their district boundaries doextend, you know, down toward US
277.
So they're fairly large district.
And so you got quite a fewpeople there.

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Well, 921 said no.
And 471.
So you're looking at 13,almost 1400 people who voted.
And let me, and let me tellyou something, too.
There's a whole hell of a lotmore than 1400 registered voters
in that district.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of people didn't vote.
And so.
Well, and again, to quoteBarack Obama, elections have consequences.

(20:10):
Yes, they do.
And when people don't turn outfor an election, one side or the
other is going to be madbecause their side didn't get the
win.
And a lot of times it comesdown to sheer numbers.
Right?
Sheer numbers.
It's just, how did you getenough people mobilized and motivated
to get off their backside andgo vote?

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Well, and I think that's whathappened in Wichita Falls with the
two new high schools.
There was a lot of people outthere who.
There was a lot of people.
You always have.
People are going to voteagainst, no for any bond.
It doesn't matter if JesusChrist told them to Vote for a bond.
They're going to vote no.
Okay.
It just, it is what it is.
And you're going to have somepeople that are going to vote for
every bond, which is a small,I think a much smaller percentage

(20:51):
going to vote for every bondbecause they believe in, in, in that,
in that sort of thing.
But then you have all thathuge group in the middle.
And I think what happenedduring the Wichita Falls ISD2 schools.
I know what happened was a lotof parents, younger parents who were
like, look, my kids are goingto be utilizing these facilities
or people who had young grand.

(21:12):
Grandparents had younger grandkids.
Sure.
And those people are the onesthat got out and got motivated and
voted.
So.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Archer County.
Jordan Baron one Countyattorney and Holiday.
Now you can sell booze in Holiday.
There you go.
Which by the way, to me thatis a strange holdout in 2024.

(21:34):
Oh, very much.
To not be able to sell alcohol.
Well, remember Henrietta ornot Henrietta, but Clay county was
dry for.
And guess what?
The comalies in Jolly TruckStop actually pushed to get this
going.
And.
And it came and boom.
This is the other thing thatalways struck me as so strange.

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A liquor store cannot be openon Sunday in Texas and you must close
by 9pm Monday through Saturday.
But I can go to a bar sevennights a week and get hammered till
two in the morning or at.
Nine o'clock in the morning.
You can go in the morning.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean I used to, I used towork with a group of people long

(22:16):
time ago that would.
There was a little bar overoff a Caulfield in that area somewhere.
I can't remember what it was now.
And they, you know, we would,we worked overnights at.
I'll tell you what, we work atWalmart overnights, unloading trucks.
I worked there for a shorttime doing that years and years ago.
And I never went along withthem because I may not have even

(22:38):
been old enough to drink atthat point.
May not have been 21 yet.
But they would leave there.
They get off at 7 in the morning.
They'd go over to IHOP andhave breakfast and then they go to
this bar at about 9 o'clockand sit over and drink beer until
lunchtime.
Yeah, yeah.
But I can't go to a liquorstore on Sunday afternoon after church

(22:58):
and get a bottle of somethingand go back to my house.
Well, and I'm not complainingabout this.
I can't be open on Sundays and Saturdays.
Right.
I have to be closed one day a week.
Yes.
Right.
And but it could be.
You could be closed onSaturday to be open on Sunday.
That's what I just said.
I can't be closed on.
I can't be open Saturday and Sunday.
You can't operate seven days a week.
But is that.
You can't even.

(23:18):
No, but you can't all.
You can't.
You have to be closed onSaturday or Sunday as well.
It's not just seven days a week.
You can't say, I'm going toclose on Tuesday and Wednesday or.
Or Thursday and Wednesday.
No, it.
You have to be closed at leastSunday or at least Saturday.
But historically, isn't thatthe automobile dealers association
in Texas that really kind ofput either got that on the books
for the law.

(23:39):
I read.
I did a.
Okay.
I had.
They fought it.
They.
The automobile been fighting.
Well, would you.
If you're a car lot, would yourather be open seven days a week?
I don't know.
I had.
Like I said, I had looked atit and I'll look it up again.
I don't want to be open sevendays a week, to be honest with you.
But car dealership choice.
Sure.
And CarMax, I believe it's.

(24:00):
CarMax is one of the bigpeople, one of the big nationwide
companies that has automobiledealerships in Texas.
They fought this for.
I think it was about.
They fought it in the courtsabout five years ago.
Yeah.
And they stayed open onSundays and they ended up having
to pay.
They lost in courts.
That was upheld.
They end up having to pay.

(24:22):
I forgot the amount of money.
It was an enormous amount of money.
Yeah.
Fines.
Because they had to go backand pay all the fines for that and
all the taxes.
Okay.
Proof that Google reads our minds.
I typed why our car dealer andit finished.
Closed on Sunday and saidclosed on.
Well, it's.

(24:42):
But it's an old.
It's an old thing of the bluelaws because used to be department
stores couldn't be open on Sundays.
Yeah.
The only place.
Or Saturdays and Sundays.
The only place at WichitaFalls was Treasure City.
Yes.
That was open on Sundays andit was owned by Jewish people is
what I heard.
Yeah.
Who went to Sabbath, went tosynagogue on.
On Saturday.
Saturday.
Right.

(25:02):
Did they make a deal orsomething and got.
What's the deal?
They could be.
You could be open or Saturdayor Sunday.
Oh, they were choice.
They were open on.
But every would.
Everybody would close on Sundays.
The malls would be closed on Sundays.
You drive out by the mall orKmart parking lot and there'd be
go karts and all kinds ofstuff out There, because that was.
Nobody was going to be there.
Do y'all remember the firstiteration of Chick Fil a in Wichita

(25:25):
Falls?
Yeah.
In the mall.
It was in Saxetter Mall.
It was closed court.
They were closed.
And they closed.
They've always closed on Sunday.
And they went to battle with.
They.
They moved into the mall.
They got lured into movinginto the mall.
And then the mall ownershipgot mad at the.
At the franchise owner at thattime because they would not open
on Sunday.

(25:45):
Said it's corporate policy.
We do not operate on Sunday.
Right.
But that had to do.
They got their contract beforethe malls started requiring you to
be open.
And so they had those usuallylong term contracts.
And so then when it came uprenewal, they said, hey.
And that's when Chick Fil asaid, now we're out of here.
Yeah.
And so they left.
And then for years, we didn'thave a Chick Fil A in which falls
until they built their ownstandalone store.

(26:05):
So anyhow.
But that's.
Those are old blue laws.
I agree.
It's kind of crazy.
But anyhow, all that is, youcould sell.
They'll be able to sellalcohol in holiday Texas.
Now, James Frank and DavidSpiller, both of whom, by the way,
have been guests on this show.
I'm just saying.
Former show.
And they won handily.
They won very handily.
You're welcome.
Might have had nothing to do with.
They were both Republicans andall they had is Democrat.

(26:27):
No, it had everything to dowith this show.
There you go.
And then Brett Hagenboo.
Yes.
Okay.
That's not how you spell it,but that's how you say it.
Hagen Boo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was gonna say.
I knew the spelling wasn't.
No.
Boom.
No.
It looks like Bach or something.
So anyhow, he's.
He's now our state senator.
He basically took over.
What?
Drew who?
Drew Springer, who was aformer guest on.

(26:49):
Not this show, but the radio show.
Drew had been in on this show.
Yeah.
So Brett Hagen Boo.
Won against Jay Scarborough and.
And another group of people towin the Republican primary in the
spring.
Drew was never a guest on thispodcast and he's not there anymore.

(27:09):
Well, Drew.
Drew didn't run.
I know.
Yeah.
I'm trying.
I'm trying to make this.
Try to be.
Yeah.
Try to make us look better.
Yeah.
Anyway, so national.
Okay.
So let's go.
Oh, my gosh.
The presidential race isobviously the big news now.
Trey made a prediction on thispodcast that this was going to go

(27:31):
one of two ways.
It was either going to be sucha tight Squeaker that it was going
to be so close between Harrisand Trump that we might not know
for weeks who the winneractually go to the courts.
It would have, might even haveto go to the courts or it was going
to be a runaway for Donald Trump.

(27:52):
Yeah.
As of the recording of thispodcast, I believe he's at now 292
electoral.
College votes and Arizona andNevada are in play and they both
look very strong.
This number can still go up.
He may break the 300 number which.
I, which I predicted a 300 break.
300 which would, I mean atthis point he's at 295.

(28:13):
I beg your pardon.
So we've added some Alaska.
Alaska, which was kind of agiven he was going to win Alaska.
Yeah, they just take a longtime to count.
There are 538 electoral votesavailable and those are distributed
among the states.
Texas has 40 electoral votes.
California I think has 54.

(28:33):
Pennsylvania has 19.
So each state, depending onit, has to do with population and
number of electors and allthis kind of stuff.
And in Texas the way it worksis this.
If you win 50.1% of thepopular vote, all 40 electoral votes
are awarded to you, whoevermeets that threshold.

(28:53):
I think California does it similarly.
I think it's a little, everystate's a little bit different in
how they distribute the understanding.
I was reading, reading anarticle the other day that all states
except for Nebraska and Maine.
Maine, those they.
If you win the popular vote,you get 2 of the electoral votes
or electoral.
Is it 2 or 1?

(29:14):
No, 2.
Both states or just Nebraskafrom what.
I read, I read the other day,then they said that then they have.
Nebraska has three additionalones, a total of five.
The other three aredistributed among districts.
And this is, it depends on.
And then Maine has twoadditional ones and so then they
divide those two up and that'swhy they have this NE1 and NE2.

(29:37):
Right, right.
So those are broken up.
So you know, but all thestates, we don't have a national,
nationally conforming methodof doing these elections.
Each state sets its ownelection rules and laws.
Right.
And so every municipality does.
Yes, that's what I have a problem.
And I've said this for a longtime, I now I don't believe in uniform

(30:00):
election laws formunicipalities and stuff like that.
Because as far as I'mconcerned, the people that live in
Portland, Oregon, if they wantto say that you have to be a left
handed juggler to be on thecity council there, I don't give
a shit.
I don't Live in Portland,Oregon, and it's not my business.
Do what you want to do.
But when it comes to nationalelections, state and below should

(30:21):
be.
Should be whatever the stateor the state wants to do.
But national elections, whenit comes to, if you're electing anybody
to Congress or the presidency,there should be a uniform election.
Well, and I, you know, I'mnot, I'm not totally surprised by
the results of the election,but I am a little bit.
And when you go to the map andyou look at how the popular vote

(30:46):
broke down, and you look whereTrump won the popular vote, that
map is a perfect illustrationof why the Electoral College process
is so important when it comesto a presidential election where
the whole country has a voicein this one or these two individuals,

(31:06):
president and vice president.
If we didn't have theElectoral College, all the major
population centers of thecountry, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago,
Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston,Austin, San Francisco, all these
major metro centers of thecountry, they would decide every
presidential election.
Los Angeles County, I think ithas a larger population than five

(31:30):
or six US States combined.
Yeah.
Now think of, just put that in perspective.
That, that should put it in perspective.
That's one county.
It's a big county.
One county.
It's a big county physically,geographically, but it's not nearly
as big as Montana, but it's got.
And Montana is one of those states.
Montana barely has a million people.
You could fit the fourthlargest state in the country.
You could fit all of Montana'spopulation into one little corner

(31:53):
of LA County.
Yeah, it could be in Watts or something.
I don't know where, but yeah,you can fit them all in one corner.
So you have these largepopulation centers.
And these large populationcenters for at least the last 60
or 70 years have traditionallybeen ruled by, overlorded by the
Democratic Party.
That's a better way to say it.
Okay.

(32:13):
They control these largepopulation centers.
If you didn't have theElectoral College, they would decide
every presidential election.
The rest of the country.
You look at this map.
Look at Texas.
Yeah, we've got, there's a smattering.
You've got, got the, the deepsouthwestern corner of Texas there.

(32:34):
That's El Paso.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, that's,that's Big Ben.
There's.
Nobody lives there.
Well, but it went blue.
Yeah, but you've got, youknow, Houston metro, Austin metro,
San Antonio metro, Dallas,Fort Worth metro.
That went.
Corpus Christi.
Saw they went solid.

(32:54):
No, solidly.
Valley.
This is the valley right down here.
Yeah, Hidalgo.
So you've got You've got, ifyou look at that map, if it were
not for the Electoral College,the rest of just Texas.
Just take Texas.
The rest of that map wouldn'tmean a damn thing.
Yeah, it would mean nothingwithout the electrical.
I totally agree.
And so I heard the other nightI was watching electric coverage

(33:17):
and I would flip over to MSNBCand stuff like that to see what they
were saying.
And of course, when it lookedlike Harris was going to lose, this
one guy came in and of course,being the unbiased reporter, he said
this horrible thing called theElectoral College.
Look, let me tell yousomething, because I watched, I watched
FOX News.
I watched Ms.

(33:37):
ND with Ms.
Msnbc, no dnc.
I watched him.
I watched cnn.
I watched ABC and I watched cbs.
I watched all five.
I was flipped.
Mostly Fox, but flipping backand forth.
FOX always had a Democrat onthe panel, at least one and generally

(33:58):
two.
Generally two Democrats on the panel.
So if they had eight people,generally two people were Democrats
there.
And I mean, and I don't meanthese are Democrats that are kind
of, kind of Democrats.
Harold Ford Jr.
Is a solid Democrat.
Yes.
Jessica Tarloff is a solid Democrat.
You know, so they had thesereal people, one Williams, which
is, he's crazy.
He was pissed at night.

(34:18):
I'm so, I'm sick.
But, but then when you seelike going MSNBC, I think Claire
McCaskill was a formersenator, was on there and she's going,
she just, I mean, they'rebeside themselves about this deal.
Yeah.
But by the way, real quickly,I have called, correctly called every

(34:39):
presidential election since 1992.
The first one I was able tovote in, except for 2020, I was wrong
in 2020.
Now I can easily, and I'm notgoing to make excuses, I can say,
hey, it was a Covid, you know,who knew that that was going to get
turned upside down by allthese local people that were breaking
the law.

(34:59):
And look, I'm not saying thatTrump didn't win.
So don't, don't, don'tmiscontrue what I said.
Miscontrue, misconstrue what I said.
But these, these electionofficials did break the law by changing
election laws unilaterally andnot going through the process.
That was a breaking of the law.
So I was wrong about thatpresidential election.
I did think Trump was going to win.

(35:20):
But everyone since 1992 matterwho I was wanted to vote and who
I voted for, because plenty oftimes I lost, I called every one
of them.
Well, now I want to say this I.
Guys, the Republican Party atthis point is poised to have.
We've already got, we've gotthe Senate.

(35:41):
That's a lot that's done veryclose on the House.
The House trending our way.
The House looks pretty solid Republican.
It's not, you know, I knowthey were worried about it flipping
the night of.
But if you look, we looked atit earlier and there's only eight
of the remaining seats left inthe House, which is quite a few left.
There's only eight that aretrending Democrat.

(36:03):
And now we have the WhiteHouse also.
All three.
Don't fuck it up, guys.
You have, you have again, ahistoric opportunity here.
Republicans all across thecountry been talking a big game on
the border, immigration, onbudgets, energy spending, energy,

(36:24):
all this.
Do not screw this up.
Listen me, Congressman RonnyJackson, Senator Ted Cruz, even the
other one, they're notwatching this.
I know, I know they're not.
By the way, could, could verywell be the Senate Majority Leader,

(36:44):
John Cornyn.
It's possible.
He's in the running.
I hope not.
Yeah, but I hope not becauseCornyn is.
Corny is not a conservative.
I'm sorry.
He's proven himself not to be.
So where this is going to bedifferent, and I agree with you,
Mike, this is where why thisis different is because this did
happen in 2016.
The Republicans for the first,the first two years of Donald Trump's

(37:05):
presidency, they controlled all.
They controlled both chambersof Congress and the presidency.
But Donald Trump was very green.
Didn't know come here fromsick em when it came to his cabinet
or anything like that.
Right, I know.
And you had Paul Ryan.
Oh, it was the speaker of the House.
Talk about a rhino.
Yeah.

(37:25):
So what's going to bedifferent now is Johnson is Speaker
of the House.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't know who the SenateMajority Leader will be.
So it may, they may be prettyweak themselves this time around.
But the biggest deal is Trumpwill have hit the ground running.
He's got a lot of people onhis side.
He, he knows what's going on.
He knows how the game is played.

(37:47):
He knows who to talk to andwho not to talk to.
He knows who to hire and not hire.
Last time he hired people whowere loyal to him because that's
what he did in business.
But he didn't know whetherthey could actually do the job or
were competent and a lot ofthem weren't.
That's why a lot of thosepeople that he hired right off the
bat were gone within a coupleof years.
Well, you know, you Know who'sgoing to be part of this administration

(38:07):
is somebody I know that youwere really excited about.
Vivek Ramaswamy.
Yeah, yeah.
He, he confirmed last nightwith Sean, on Sean Hannity that what
he said was, I look forward toplaying a large, a crucial role in
this new administration.
And handy press him on.
Would you take a cabinet position?
I look forward to.

(38:27):
And he, he finally did answer.
Yes, I would if offered.
Yeah, I think he's going to be involved.
I'm happy about Robert Kennedybe involved.
I really am.
I look, Robert Kennedy's aDemocrat, but he's a traditional
Democrat.
Those guys, I could alwayswork with traditional Democrats because
they're more middle of the road.
Yeah.
Type people.

(38:48):
And Kendi, I think if he'sgoing to focus on, he's going to
focus on the food supply andthat sort of thing.
That's his wheelhouse.
Yeah.
And, and he's right about a lot.
All the crap that's been putin our processed food and overly
processed foods and stuff like that.
There needs to be someoversight on that.
One of the things I'veobserved, especially in this election,

(39:09):
particularly older voters whovoted Democrat, and by older, I mean
I'm talking 70 plus years ofage, they're voting for Democrats
not based on the currentDemocrat stances and policies and
platform, but based on theirmemory of what Democrats were 50

(39:30):
years ago.
Yeah.
I told my granddad one timehe's still voting for.
Oh, fdr.
Yeah.
You're voting for fdr.
FDR has been dead for yearsand you're still voting for him.
Right.
And then the yellow DogDemocrat, my grandmother, my grandmother,
my mom's mom was an FDRDemocrat up until Jimmy Carter.

(39:52):
Jimmy Carter changed her wholeperspective on the Democratic Party.
Yeah.
She was so incredibly angryover the incompetence of the Carter
administration.
And, you know, now we lookback and it wasn't all just Jimmy
Carter.
It was a lot of people thatsurrounded Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter is a good person.

(40:13):
Jimmy Carter's a good, he's adecent, very decent human being.
Nothing personal against theman as a leader, though, but he's
a shit president.
He was very weak as a leaderand he unfortunately surrounded himself
with a lot of weak people whodidn't understand the job.
Yeah, they didn't get theassignment at all.
And so they, you know, they,they made it very difficult for him

(40:36):
to, to excel in any area.
And so my grandmother, shebecame a Reagan Republican really
quick.
They were called ReaganDemocrats, they became Republicans,
but the term was Reagan Democrat.
Yes.
There were people who hadtraditionally been Democrat voters
and they voted for Reagan.
But at that time, Reaganrepresented his philosophies and

(41:01):
his policies and hisviewpoints were still very much reflected
within the Democratic Party.
Also, if you will remember,let's go back to 1996.
This is on YouTube.
You can find the damn video of it.
You have Bill Clinton, thenPresident of the United States, addressing

(41:21):
a joint session of Congress.
And he's talking about whatwe've got to do to get the immigration.
Illegal immigration, and theyuse the term illegal immigration.
You can find video of himaddressing and talking about what
we've got to do and the stepswe've got to take.
And all the Democrats arelike, yeah, yeah.
You know, and Joe Biden.
Joe Biden in that same periodwas talking the same talk.

(41:43):
Well, not just that, abortion.
Famously, Bill Clinton said,safe, legal and rare.
Yes.
Now it's.
It's do what you like when youwant to do it.
It doesn't matter.
I mean, Missouri, that it's.
So it's.
You're right.
And I said that once again.
I said this for a long time ago.
Bill Clinton was not a leftist.

(42:04):
Hillary Clinton is a leftist.
His wife was.
Yeah.
Bill Clinton was not a leftist.
He was a very conservative Democrat.
He was a Democrat and he stillhad those Democrat leanings, but
he was on the conservativescale of the Democrats.
More of a JFK kind of Democrat.
Yeah, exactly.
Than anything else.
I'm telling you, what I'vebeen telling people is, and I'm serious
about this, give it a chance.

(42:25):
Donald Trump's a president.
It is what it is.
You could scream and piss andmoan and like it or not like it,
it doesn't matter at this point.
Donald Trump is the president.
And the same thing as I saidwhen Joe Biden was president, and
I said it on the radio withyou guys.
Yeah.
I said, you know what?
He's the president.
I support him as a president.
I want him to be successful.
And I gave him the benefit ofthe doubt for about a year and.

(42:48):
Or ish.
Until I started really seeing.
Well, and he started killingstuff right off the bat because he
went after the industry or theenergy industry, and he started stopping
the border wall and he startedreversing all these policies.
So it didn't take very longfor me to sour on Joe Biden.
But I didn't sour on himbefore he was elected president or
before he was in office.
And I didn't sour on him day one.

(43:09):
I wanted to give the guy achance, give him A chance.
Right.
Real quick, I want to say onthe abortion issue, Missouri voters
passed a law that, and I'musing their terms, enshrines abortion
rights into their constitution.
Now I'm going to tell you this.
This never should have been afederal issue.
It never should have beentaken away from the states.

(43:29):
It never should have been afederal issue.
And what made this such apolarizing discussion is the fact
that the feds got involved inthe first place back in the 1970s,
early 70s.
That's what made it such apolarizing debate.
Well, also something to thinkabout is that technically, if you
really think about it, it'sharder to deal with 50 different

(43:50):
states.
So it's really to the, for thepeople who were fighting then wanted
the Roe v.
Wade to be, you know, reversed.
It was, it was certainly theydon't, the movement doesn't want
abortion.
Right.
But they were focused on or wants.
It on a limited scale.
Right, right.
But they, that they werewanting it to be constitutional,

(44:13):
whatever laws there are, beconstitutional about it.
And undoing, of course, thiswasn't a law.
This was a Supreme Court decision.
Right.
Which.
Right.
It was a precedent, so it got reversed.
Now it's actually moredifficult and it's a completely different
game, if you will.
They have to now deal with 50different states and in a way you
could, of course, you know,half full, half empty.

(44:35):
It is harder and it's actuallya harder position to, to make happen
what they want to have happen.
Yeah.
So it's kind of, you know, but.
Here'S also part of theproblem is controlling the language,
if you see it, reproductive rights.
Yeah.
Now we're not even using abortthe word abortion anymore.
So basically what we're doingis we're trying to whitewash what

(44:55):
it is an abortion is thekilling of a baby.
Let's just call it what it is.
Whether you're for it oragainst it or okay with it or on
whatever, wherever you fall onthe spectrum from being whenever
you want, no matter, you know,if it's up to birth, to the hardline
people of no abortion underany circumstances, no matter what.

(45:17):
And everybody's in between there.
Right.
Okay.
So no matter where you fall,the fact is it is killing of a, of
a, of a, of a human being, apotential human being.
Okay.
That's what it is.
And depending on how far, muchfurther it goes, you know, that's
why it's not killing of a.
It's killing of a potentialhuman being when it's a, a brand
new fetus.
But when it gets to months andmonths in now, it is a human being.

(45:42):
It's a viable human being.
And so that's what you.
You are.
So quit bullshitting yourselfand bullshitting all of you around
it by calling reproductive rights.
It's called abortion.
Now, once again, you canbelieve however you want to believe.
I respect that you believewhere you believe, but let's call
it what it is.
Yeah.
Well, but legally, in ourcountry, the states are to handle

(46:03):
things that the federalgovernment doesn't have laid out
in the Constitution.
I totally agree with you.
I think this should be a state.
Right.
There you go.
Now, let's change.
Can I change the subject on something?
Yeah, go ahead.
So one last thing.
There's, there's been floatedabout on some TV shows, news shows,
whatever, that Biden shouldresign now and give Kamala the distinction

(46:31):
of being the first blackfemale and she would be the 47th.
President.
And that would cancel out anyof Trump's memorabilia that he's
already got.
That's it.
Yeah.
Anyway, I don't think that'sgonna happen.
I don't think he'll do it.
I don't think he'll do itbecause I don't think he likes.

(46:52):
I don't think he likes Harrisand I don't think his camp.
But he'll have a legacy.
I think.
I think what Biden and look, I.
Don'T think so either.
I think.
I think Biden's going topardon me.
Thought.
I think he's going to pardonhis son.
Yeah.
And I don't blame him.
Yeah.
Okay.
And if he's smart, he'llpardon Trump and get all this done.
Well, they've already saidJack Smith, the prosecutor.

(47:15):
That was, that was.
Yeah, that was going after Trump.
Those cases are falling apart.
Yeah.
He's already.
Smith has already started theprocess of basically withdrawing
everything because it's goingto happen.
Right.
Well, the Supreme Court'salready handed Trump a win in that
he's given immunity fromcertain acts, certain actions taken

(47:39):
while he was in office.
So he's already won that fight.
Really, at this point,Prosecutor, you're not going to put
Trump in jail.
Trump's not going to get.
You're not going to.
Donald Trump's not going to beled away in handcuffs.
That ain't gonna happen, guys.
By the way, if you go back andlook at our shorts, we've got a really
good.
Mike has a great rant on that.
Yeah, it's about a minute longrant on.

(48:00):
On the whole Trump being ledneck Handcuffs.
It's really funny.
It ain't gonna happen.
So.
But, but let me.
I'm gonna ask you guys,because I know we need to wrap up
here pretty soon, but what doyou guys, what do you guys expect
from Trump, you know, let'ssay within the first 60, 90 days
of the presidency?
What?
Because I think already there's.
There's already a feeling thatthe malaise that has settled in over

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this country over the lastfour years is already lifting.
Oh, yeah, well, the stockmarket showing that, too.
Yeah, there's a lot.
There's a lot of consumer confidence.
I think the consumerconfidence is going to go up.
I think that the oil industryis going to crank itself back up
high gear because I don'tthink they're going to wait.
I bet Halliburton is probablyalready hiring people right now.
Hope so.
And I think the border, theborder wall is going to not only

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get built, I think the borderis going to get stronger and tougher
immediately.
I think that's a day one.
I think the border will beshut down.
Well, will there be a surge totry to get across before he takes
office?
There might be.
There might be.
And I think.
And I think that's something.
Well, I tell you what, havingtalked to people who work the border

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patrol agents and people thatwork the border and most.
99% of these people will neverspeak on.
Because they can't and they won't.
But off the record, they'lltell you we have been overwhelmed
for years now.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And the last three to fiveyears have been the worst.
They're just that we don'thave enough bodies there.

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We don't have enough people there.
We don't have enough manpower,we don't have enough equipment, we
don't have enough resources.
We don't have enough ofanything there.
And that's why this problemhas become so exacerbated, is we've
not had the resources and thepeople on the border that we need
there to control the city.
And Mexico knows this.
The cartels know this becausethey're helping smuggle people.

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They're the ones who aremaking all the money.
Yeah, they're getting fat offof this.
So the people, all the playerson the other side of the border,
they know this.
They know we don't have theresources there.
So is there going to be a surge?
Yeah, I think there probablywill be.
How large that surge will be,how much they could ramp that up
in the next three months, Idon't know.

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But yeah, I think there'sgoing to be something that will happen.
They're going to try to getmore people in here.
We're already dealing withmillions of people in this country
that we don't know where they are.
And I do think there will be alot more deportations.
There will be maybe Obamalevel portation.
By the way, Obama was the deporting.
He, the number one deporter inthe presidency.

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Sure was.
It wasn't like.
And I say that it was his administration.
Barack Obama didn't go deport people.
But, but his administration athis direction and his.
Well, somebody in hisadministration's direction.
Yeah.
I don't know that he directedit, but somebody did.
Well, I think, I thinkultimately he had to sign off on
it at some level.
Yeah.
Whether it was.
We saw Joe Biden sign off on alot of stuff there, Mike.

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We sure, yeah.
He said, I don't even knowwhat I'm signing exactly.
But, but, you know, I thinkwe're going to see the, the border,
the economy is what I thinkwhen you look at the map, you look
at the popular vote, theborder and the economy drove a lot
of people back to Donald Trump.
Absolutely.

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Because they had felteverybody got to the point where
they're like, okay, obviously,Kamala Harris, you've been three
and a half years now as vicepresident, why haven't you taken
action?
And clearly Joe Biden has nothad the cognitive capacity.
Oh, he's on charge within thelast three years to do all of the
things he.
She's been doing a lot ofthings behind the scenes.

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I believe they've been gettinginput from the Obamas.
I believe they've been gettinginput from other elements of the
Democratic Party.
And yeah, Joe may have beensigned the paper, but Joe didn't
negotiate a damn thing.
Well, but she had to play, butshe had to play it very gingerly,
if you will, because she, she couldn't.
Because she can't be incharge, even though she might have

(51:59):
some influence of actualpolicy and all that.
But she can't usurp hisauthority, if you will.
I think there were probably a lot.
Of, I think she had probably a.
Lot of official meetings, alot of official face to face stuff
that she was doing behind thescenes that nobody saw.
Like I said, 95% of what thesepeople do is behind the curtain.
We don't ever see it.

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President, vice President,doesn't matter.
95% of it.
You and I don't ever see.
We don't see it.
It's behind the curtain.
So I think she probably wasdoing a lot of that face to face,
one on one stuff that hecouldn't do.
He just could not pull off andwas never going to be able to pull
off.
And I just, of course, andthere's still a lot of righteous
anger out there aboutbasically hand selecting her to be

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the candidate rather thanhaving a mini primary and selecting
a new candidate.
Well, it is what it is.
It is what it is.
Donald Trump's the 47thpresident of the United States, or
at least unless he's.
Going to be the next electedPresident of the United States, he
will be Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is the President Elect.

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In January, he takes off and Ijust hope, personally, and I know
these guys do too, that theRepublicans get together and do what
needs to be done to get thingsright for the country.
Not for Republicans, not forconservatives, not for white, white,
middle class, heterosexualmen, for everybody in the country.

(53:26):
And that's, by the way, that'swhat this election's been about.
You look at who voted for Trump.
It wasn't a bunch of whiteheterosexual men.
It was men, women.
It was, it was black people,white people, Hispanic, Indian, Asian.
It was all across the board asyoung people, old people.
There's a lot of people votedfor Trump.
So now he's got, got thequote, unquote mandate right now.

(53:48):
Don't screw it up.
Well, I was looking, I waslooking into the breakdown of some
of these numbers and there's awhole lot of people, a whole lot
of minority voters that shedid not get.
Oh, sure, that Biden did.
There's a whole lot of them.
You could see where anywherefrom half a percentage point to 3
or 4 percentage points fewerthan he got.

(54:09):
Well, and that's when youstart looking, you know, county by
county and district bydistrict and you start breaking it
down to, you know, chewing itreal fine.
You see that?
Well, I know we got to wrap uphere, but the, there is a, there's
a.
And you need to watch it.
It's on Google.
I think it was CNN or msnbc.
They had their big electionmap and there's two guys talking
and one of them goes, well,let's look and see where, where Kamala

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Harris over, over performed.
And you know, they had those all.
He hit the overperform button.
Nothing, not one county in theentire country.
Because in fact, he goes, oh,because there's nothing, nothing
over here is all blank.
And he goes, move that over tothe side as they slid the thing over.
And not one county.
He said nothing.

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No, and I didn't Overperformit anywhere in their estimation.
I was watching NBC Newscoverage and I noticed.
And guys, come on.
What broadcast school are youpulling these people out of?
Yeah.
Really?
But I noticed that they werevery reluctant to use the term underperforming

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when talking about her, butthey made heavy use of the term overperforming
when they were talking about Trump.
Yeah.
And the emphasis was basicallytheir tone and their emphasis and
such was to say that why is he over?
We don't understand why he'sover performing.
He shouldn't be overperforming here.
But that was the facts.
It was what it was.

(55:35):
So, guys.
And we'll have a lot more totalk about on this going forward.
Yeah.
And I think Russell Schreiberis going to be on with us next week.
Oh, good.
Okay.
Well, Russell, RussellSchreiber is the, he's the.
We have the public worksdirector for.
SEA Wichita Falls, and we havetwo guests next week.
Russell Schreiber one day.
And then Jim Kulavatos, who'sthe Clay County Memorial Hospital

(55:58):
CEO, is going to come and talkabout Medicare.
Oh, okay.
And pretty, pretty importantbecause the Medicare signup is about
to happen.
Yeah.
And, you know, I know ourlistener base is pretty diverse,
but it's not just, it's notjust the people that are on Medicare.
You got people like me, who mymother is, is obviously Medicare

(56:20):
age and stuff like that.
Well, I'm, you know, mymother's making all of her decisions
and things like that, but I'mkind of her advisor.
My dad's gone down and, AndI'm an only child.
Right.
So she's leaning on you veryheavily for advice.
Yeah.
Or just bouncing things off of me.
Yeah.
I don't want to make it sound.
My mother's making her owndecisions and take cares of all.
All that.
Take care of all that.

(56:40):
But she does bounce things offof me because I'm the one who's left
to do it.
She, you know, most of her,you know, some of her brother and
sisters are now dead.
Brothers and sisters.
She does have a few, but theydon't live here.
Close.
Right.
And so, and there's, butthat's not unusual there.
You get to a point, you peoplewho get in their 70s, their late
70s and early 80s and mid-80s,they'll find out where their partner,

(57:01):
their, their longtime wife orhusband dies, and they're kind of,
they don't have anybody tobounce stuff off of anymore.
So it's usually one of thekids that steps up.
So, you know, Check that oneout as well.
And that, and that is a,that's a process now.
It's complicated.
There's a lot.
There's just a.
There's so much informationyou got to absorb.
Well, there's also a lot ofbullshit out there too.
There is.

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And this is nice thing.
Jim's gonna cut through the.
And the thing is, he's notselling anything.
He.
He has nothing to sell.
He's not an insurance agent.
He's nothing.
He's just a person who in theknow and knows what happens.
But he has nothing to sell,nothing to gain.
He's not advocating for anyparticular element.
He's going to tell us the facts.
Just the facts, ma'am.
There you go.
All right.
Anyway, guys, thank you forjoining us.
We appreciate you being herewith us on this episode of get it

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