Episode 91: Fluoride, Water, and Streets, with Russell Schreiber

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I have some very heavythinking to do before 10:00.
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He didn't talk enough.

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He, he's, he does a lot of listening.
He does.
He does.
And as you can tell, we'regonna have a guest later.
We are gonna have a guest later.
We've got Russell Schreiberjoining us.
His first time on this show.
He was on the radio programseveral times.
Yeah, he's.
He's done the radio programwith me in the years past, but this
will be his first time on the podcast.
He is the public worksdirector for the city of Wichita
Falls.

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Good dude.
Arguably the second mostimportant guy in city government.
He's a good guy and he's very.
And he's very serious and he'sdamn good at his job.
If not the most important guyin city government.
I mean, when we're talkingabout streets, when we're talking
about infrastructure, whenwe're talking about all the things,
all the water, all the thingsthat make your city work, this is
the guy who is at the helm of that.

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So we're gonna get a lot ofgood information.
It's like I said for years,you know, how important in the school
district.
And I said this, actually saidthis at convocation one year when
I was doing this speech.
The teachers are the rock stars.
Sure.
And they're, they're the face.
They're the face of yourbusiness or the face of your district.
And all that.
And they're super important.
They're very.
They're vitally important intothe education process.

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That's right.
But let's don't forget aboutthe bus drivers.
Let's don't forget about themaintenance people because I will
tell you when.
If the first person that showsup in the morning at the school and
flushes that toilet and waterstarts coming back the other way
and flooding everything.
It's not the teachers.
No, no, knock on the teachers.
But it's not.
The teachers are going to beout there fixing that.
It's a maintenance guys andthey're going to.

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And they're going to geteverybody all hands on deck.
They're going to be.
You might have electriciansout there with mops.
It doesn't matter.
Everybody's in charge oftrying to get that school building
back, going to where it'susable because it's not usable when
you have toilet water all overthe floors.
Got to get it under control.
Yeah, got to get it under control.
We got a few things happeningwe want to talk about coming up here.

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The original gun show since 1980.
Yeah, this is the original.
I think.
I think there have been some imitations.
There have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But.
But this is the.
The original gun show since 1980.
Well, to borrow a phrase fromthe old Gibson days, often imitated
but never duplicated.
Did that come from Gibson?
I think so.
Yeah.
Well.
Well, they used it.
Did they?

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I didn't know that it was.
It was.
It was on their print ads.
Yeah.
Was it really?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't remember that.
Yeah.
So often duplicated, imitated,but never duplicated often.
I'm going to look it up.
Imitate.
Now, see, this will be said it.
This is coming up December 7ththrough the 8th.
So it's.
It's a Saturday Sunday show.
December 7th and 8th.
It's going to be their lasttime at the multipurpose event center.

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Last time we shot falls.
That's right.
They're moving to burn.
Contract negotiations have notgone well.
Apparently not.
And so they are moving theshow to Burt Burnett next year.
Yes.
That is now official.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
I'd heard rumors to that.
I heard it directly from theperson who's making the decision.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I'd heard a rumor tothat effect, but I hadn't gotten
the official word.

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So this is the last time atthe impact.
Okay.
So be sure to go check it outand support.
You know this, of course, MikeRucker has been involved with the
gun show for how many years?
Probably a decade at least.
His wife run that.
Run the gun show now, I would say.
I bet, I bet 20 years.
It may be because Joe TomWhite ran it for many, many his family.

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Yeah.
And so Mike Rucker and hiswife have taken over and they've,
they've run the gun show forever since Joe Tom got ill and was
unable to.
And now they, they actuallyown the gun show outright.
The Wichita Falls Gun Show.
They do.
So anyhow, they do go check it out.
There's more to guns in it.
There's more than guns at agun show.
Yeah, but that's the important thing.

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Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I know they got other stuffbut you know, I go to the gun show
for the guns.
I agree.
Guns, guns, ammo, knives, thatsort of stuff.
Yep.
Guns and ammo.
I'm yet.
Look, Second Amendment, baby.
What more do you need?
Coming up, December 21st, it'sthe City Lights Parade.
7pm Starts at 8th and Austin,winds its way through the heart of

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downtown Ohio up Nice streetand, and then up to Bluff and then
basically a big rectangle ifyou will.
And that's coming up the 21st again.
That is a well attended paradeby the way.
It is.
I would advise getting there alot earlier, very early.
You're gonna want to get therebefore six, really.
And just hang out.

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There'll be some vendors.
I'm sure there'll be somethings to do.
There usually is.
But, but you want to get there early.
Number one, so that you're nothiking five miles to get to the parade.
Yeah.
And number two, so that yougot a good spot too.
Because there are, there are some.
I mean anywhere you're stand,you're gonna get to see everything
really.
But, but there's some better,better locations, better spots than

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others.
Get it right, Flute?
Yeah, that would be awesome,wouldn't it?
That would be.
Oh, okay.
That's our next thing that.
Oh, it is.
Yes, it is.
Okay.
Oh, we're gonna, we're gonnago into that.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's hell of a view.
Okay.
Anyway, so here we go.
Moving on.
Here we, we try to focus on alocal restaurant every EP.

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And this time around we'regoing to talk about P2 the Deuce,
one of the original Pioneerlocations in Wichita Falls.
Yeah.
It's no longer called Pioneer.
It's been called P2 ever sinceI can remember.
Yeah, I mean it is technicallypioneer number two.
It's still pioneer number two.
Yeah.
But this, this, this, this rest.

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The Pioneer chain ofrestaurants was founded by the McBride
family.
Probably what, 1930s, late30s, early 40s, somewhere in there.
Yeah.
Probably when they found ittoday, actually, it was during.
I read a whole thing about theMcBride family, and they started
in there when they were.
When Call Field.
There was an Army Air Corpsbase called Caulfield, which we're.

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We're right over here where Caulfield.
This probably was part of.
Probably was, yeah.
And so the McBride family, Ibelieve the father, the dad McBride,
I believe he worked for, like,Benny Keith.
He worked for one of the bigfood service people back in those
days.
Lost his job, got laid off.
And so the family would makesandwiches at their kitchen table,

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and the kids would come overto call Field and sell the sandwiches
to the soldiers.
Original roach coach.
Yeah, it was the originalroach coach.
That's right.
And they got so popular thatthe military let them put a building
or a shack or something onCaulfield, and that's how they started
going that direction.
There's a really cool.

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Look it up.
There's a really cool historyof that.
But then it morphed into the Pioneers.
And.
And the pioneer was.
Pioneer Restaurant was a.
Was a.
A big deal in Wichita Falls.
I don't know how many they hadat one time, but they did have.
They had two steakhouses, theyhad a Mexican food restaurant, and
then they had all thesePioneers and basically the Pioneer

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restaurants.
If you're not from WichitaFalls, it's basically home cooking.
Yeah.
I think there were sevenPioneer locations.
I've been told that therereally never was a P1 that they started.
P2 was the original first restaurant.
I don't remember.
I didn't remember that part.
It was an imaging thing.
Let's make it sound biggerthan it is.

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So this is pioneer number two,you know, but I think there were
seven Pioneer locations.
I know there were at leastfour or five McBride branded restaurants
at one time in town.
I think.
I think there were four.
And then, of course, she had.
What was the.
What was the Gordos, which was Right.
Which is right next door toMcBride's Steak & Steakhouse downtown.

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Yeah.
Which is right down the roadfrom you.
Yeah.
Land and cattle.
And actually, the only.
As far as I know, the onlyMcBride family restaurant that is
still in family hands is theMcBride's on Maplewood.
Fort Swanson owns that.
Ford is the grandson of FatMcBride, I believe, right?
I believe that's right.

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And he bought the restaurant back.
Yeah.
A number of years ago.
He had left the family.
He bought it back, and nowit's back in the family.
So that's kind of the historyof the pioneer restaurants in Wichita
Falls.
But they were.
It's really.
It is.
It's all good food.
Great, great food.
But P2 is really known from.
They've got great food there.
But it's also known as a bar.
Yeah, I mean, that's kind ofthe big thing for it.

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And it's one of the last drive.
It may be the last drive upbar in Wichita Falls.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Because.
Because Bar L was gone now.
And also the P2 holds thedistinction possibly of inventing
the red draw.
The red draw was, I believewas invented in Wichita Falls.
And it was either invented atP2 or the bar L.

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Now, the red draw, if youdon't know what that is, that is
beer and tomato juice.
Yes.
Oh, and by the way, if youdon't like tomato juice and you don't
like beer, put them together.
It's really not that bad.
But I've actually.
But those.
That was always been the big rivalry.
Who created the.
The red draw.
But they do sell them there.
But it's actually a bar, adrive up bar.
You can drive up, you can park there.
People ride their motorcycles there.

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Great food as well.
I know a guy who refers to itas the redneck Bloody Mary.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, it's the redneck bloody Mary.
That's a good way to describe it.
All right, so P2.
So go check them out.
They're on the corner of.
They're right off of Scottstreet there.
So they're on Indiana.
I'm sorry, not Indiana.
Lamar, like Lamar andthirteenth or twelveth or something

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somewhere down in there.
Yeah, they're right thereacross from the old library.
The arts.
The art center is.
If you head south down LamarAvenue, it's going to be on your
left hand side.
Right.
Can't miss it.
You won't miss it, I promise it.
That's right.
Follow your nose.
Follow your nose.
Anyway, all right, I guesswe'll take a break here.
Yeah, we can take a break.
We've got Russell Schreibercoming up next.
He's our special guest.

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He is the public worksdirector for the city of Winchendon
Falls.
He will join us here momentarily.
We'll take a very short break.
Be back in a moment with moreGet It Right Texoma.
Stay tuned.

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Hey, guys.
Welcome back to Get It RightTech Soma with trio Mike, Terry and
Trey.
And our very special guest, as promised.
We told you we were going tohave him here and he is here.
Russell Schreiber is with us.
He is the public worksdirector for the city of Wichita
Falls, Texas.
How are you, sir?
I'm well, Mike.
Good to be here.
Glad to have you here.
I bet you're even better nowthat we had some rain, didn't.
I'm loving it.

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I can't remember the last timewe had over 8 inches of rain in less
than a week in November.
Isn't that nice?
November.
Yeah.
Of 2015.
We had.
Didn't we?
She said.
He said November.
No, no, I know, I know.
I was just saying.
Yeah, November.
And then I was like.
But May, though, that was thebig one.
Don't get a lot of rain in November.
Yeah, it has been unusual, andit certainly.

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Well, one thing for sure, ithelped lake levels, obviously, which
are still coming up, becausewe're at this point, as of this interview,
we're still getting runofffrom these rains.
Sure.
So we're still getting somebenefit from it.
But the wildfire situation.
Oh, yeah.
Was starting to get a littleout of hand.
That's right.
We had.
We had a couple of really bigones here within the last 30, 45
days.

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And these rains have certainlyhelped tamp.
That down, let me tell you.
Not only.
Just speaking on that realquickly before we get to the rain,
not only do we have greatvolunteer fire departments all around
the county, the Tri countyarea here and even into Oklahoma,
but also we have the Texas AgForest Service, that's based in Burke
Burnett, Texas A and MForestry Service based in Burke Burnett.

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And they've got some reallygood equipment, a lot of good training.
So.
Yeah.
But explain everybody a little bit.
Okay.
We just.
So we get.
Just because we get in rain inWichita Falls doesn't necessarily
mean it helps Lake Arrowhead.
So explain to me, explain toeverybody where the watershed is
and how all that works.
The watershed for Arrowheadand for Kickapoo is in Archer and
Young and Baylor counties.

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And the watershed is the areaof the ground that slopes to the
creeks and the rivers thatdrain into these reservoirs slopes
into the Little Wichita river,which feeds Lake Arrowhead, part
of Lake Arrowhead's watershedsin southern Clay county as well.
So that, unfortunately for us,that's where the rains fell.
Yeah, if they fall in WichitaFalls, if they fall basically from

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the sale barn out on 281, ify'all know where that is.
They fall from there north.
That goes around behindArrowhead, and it misses Arrowhead.
It doesn't.
It doesn't flow into Arrowhead.
So, yeah, while.
While rains in the city arecertainly beneficial for everybody's
lawns and the cropland andeverything in Wichita County.
We all need rain up here as well.
But none of that wateractually makes it in the airhead.

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People have asked me, well,why don't you divert Holliday Creek
into Lake Arrowhead?
I'd love to, but it's simplyimpossible to do.
You can't make water run uphill.
So to divert Holiday Creekover into a creek that would drain
into Arrowhead, you'd have tobe forcing the water to run uphill.

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So is a water basin the samething or not?
Is that a different thing?
It's kind of the same thing.
Okay.
Because I was bringing up amap here just to see what we have
here.
So.
Yeah, we've got five waterdistricts in Texas.
Right.
Water districts.
Aren't there water.
Did the state have waterdistricts around the area?
There's 16 regional waterplanning areas.

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Okay.
And we're in Region B.
Okay.
That's how the state breaks it up.
Okay.
For some reason, for somereason, I had five districts in my.
Maybe I'm thinking citycouncil or something.
There was.
Didn't the Archer county mud.
What does that mean?
It's their municipal utility district.
They're a water supplier.
There's.
There's a lot of those.

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There's Dean Dale, there'sPleasant Valley, there's Cashin,
and then the cities, BurkeBurnett, Owl Park.
Sure.
They all have their own areasthat they serve.
And the rural water systemshave a CCN or a Certificate of Necessity
and Convenience, which is anarea designated through the state
that they are the soleprovider for water in those areas.
Which, by the way, realquickly, Unpleasant Valley, which

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if you're not familiar, it's alittle community that's between Wichita
Falls and Iowa Park.
I'm not going to say it'sunpleasant, but there's no valley
there.
I always love it when theyname these things.
Like, it's flat and like Isaid, it's not unpleasant.
I wouldn't call it pleasantnecessarily, but it's average.
Yeah, but it's not a valley, so.
Well, let me ask you, why isthe water system in Texas?

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This sounds very complicatedto a lot of people.
You got all these differentorganizations and all this grouping
and all these different mudsand whatever else.
Why is it so complicated?
I mean, it's water, right?
I mean, it shouldn't be that.
Well, yeah, that's gotta stayin the obvious.
In a way.

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This podcast is long enoughfor that discussion.
Probably.
Who owns the water, has thewater, sells the water.
Yeah, it's all Surface waterin the state of Texas is owned by
the state.
Anything, any pool of waterthat's over 200 acre feet, an acre
foot is basically 325,000 gallons.
Any pool of water that'slarger than that is owned by the

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state.
And if you want to use thatwater, you have to apply for a state
water.
Right.
Which is what we're doing withthe Lake Ringgold.
Even if the reservoir is notbuilt, you still have to apply to
the state and get a right touse that water, even if you build
a lake.
And so that's how everythingoperates as far as surface water
goes in Texas.
Now, groundwater is different.

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Groundwater still functionsand operates under the right of capture,
which means if I own a pieceof ground and I drill a well, I got
the right to capture any andall water I can capture in that well
under my piece of ground, evenif it pulls water from other areas
outside of my actual footprintof my ground.
Right.
So like, if they hit aaquifer, like, say, like down to

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Central Texas, there's a lotof wells in Central Texas.
They hit St.
Edwards, Edwards Aquifer orwhatever down there.
Right, right, right.
And so that's how ground.
And now groundwater isregulated a little bit through groundwater
conservation districts.
So if you're in an area thatuses a lot of groundwater, like Ogallala
area in North Texas or WestTexas, they have groundwater conservation
districts.
They have the authority tolimit how much water you can pump

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out of the ground.
We don't have that here inWichita Falls.
We don't have any groundwaterto speak of.
So we don't have one of those.
But that's kind of how thewhole water system is regulated.
Now, if a municipality orsomebody wants to use water, it's
always been the user's duty tosponsor a project.

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Wichita Falls.
We wouldn't expect Dallas orFort Worth to pay for our water.
Right.
We're the ones that need the water.
We put together, we sponsorthe project.
And so everybody's responsiblefor their own water supply.
That keeps Dallas, Fort Worth,Houston, San Antonios from coming
up and grabbing all the waterand controlling all the growth and
development across the stateof Texas.

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Well, that kind of segues intoanother thing, too.
We've spent a lot of time overthe years talking about Wichita Falls
growth and development andprobably more aptly, the lack of
growth.
Our population has been veryflat for decades now.
We haven't seen a lot ofmovement up or down.

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And one of the things.
And talked to the chamberabout this a lot.
And the why and the how andwhat do we do about it is the only
group that seems to be growinghere consistently over the years
is 55 plus.
So from your perspective andyour position, how involved is your

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department or your division ofthe city?
How involved are you guys indevelopment and helping to determine
what do we need to do to growour community, to grow the city?
Well, that's a bit of acomplicated question, Mike, but when,
when the chamber and the EDCattract new industry into town and

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they're doing a great job withRon Kitchens and those guys over
there in the, in the 4A boardand y'all have heard of some of the
great wins they've had?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
They're doing a great job.
We get involved in some ofthat as far as, hey, if we want to
locate this industry here, isthe water system able to handle it?
Where's the infrastructure?
Right.
Is the infrastructure able tohandle it?
That's kind of how we get involved.

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And then from a long rangeplanning perspective, we take get
involved as it relates to theregional water plan, that type thing
to ensure as we grow that wehave enough supply, water supply
in our system.
I know, I just saw a story yesterday.
Winco, a new grocery storechain is coming to Wichita Falls

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and apparently they haveapproached the city about extending
Winona down to wherever Iguess to help aid in traffic flow
for them.
Obviously it's going tobenefit them.
Do you see offers like that often?
Do companies come to town andgo, hey, let's partner, go to the

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city, hey, let's partner withthe city and let's, let's build out
this infrastructure, let'sbuild out this road, let's help upgrade
this water main or whatever.
Does that happen often like that?
It happens with the larger developments.
We just don't see that thelarger developments that need the
street widened or extended.
Now if a development comes inand an extension of the streets required

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to accommodate thatdevelopment, that developer is required
to put that in.
It's not on the other rest ofthe taxpayers and the ratepayers
across the state.
What about the Maplewoodbetween Lawrence and McNeil?
There was some funding by builder.
Yeah, well, bond issue.
We created that connection inthere to relieve some.
But didn't the apartmentdeveloper have some play in that?

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You're right, they did.
They paid for a piece of thewidening in there.
We've done it on ProductionBoulevard with the new Amazon facility
coming in.
They're partnered with us on that.
The Winco.
There's a lot of great winds there.
For the school district.
I remember when we built thecareer education center, we had to
widen part of the road out there.

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Hatton Road.
Right.
Hatton Road was widened andthe connection to Brewster Drive,
connection between the twothere, between Midwestern and Hatton.
Is there any.
Is there any thought processwithin the city that, hey, if we
do certain things, we docertain projects to improve certain
areas of the city or todevelop, you know, redevelop some

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of the infrastructure, be itwater, sewer, roads, whatever.
Is there any thought that someof that helps to encourage other
businesses to come to WichitaFalls or to expand operations here?
Yeah, I would think so.
I mean, the business park's agood example of that, Mike.
They had the business park out there.
It was shovel ready, if youwill, for certain pieces and parts

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of it, sure.
But at the time, it was justthe real slow part of the time in
the economy and everythinglike that.
But now that everything hasbeen out there sitting there ready,
I mean, the whole businesspark's going to be developed soon.
I think it looks good.
It was a lot less expensiveback then.
That's the other thing.

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You can do that kind of stuff,but you have to have money to go
do it.
Well, that's the thing, youknow, none of these projects ever
gets less expensive.
I mean, they just.
The price tag just keeps goingup, putting it off.
Matter of fact, I made a comment.
Someone made a comment theother day about all the.
There were.
Apparently there were multiplewater main breaks in the last several
days and.

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Yeah, and you know, some ofthat has to do with ground movement.
We've had all this rain, likewe talked about a moment ago.
There's a lot of groundmovement, but some of that is attributed
to the age of the water mains themselves.
Right.
You've got a lot of old pipesin the ground that decay, and over
time, you've got to replace those.
And you and I had a.

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We talked about this on radioyears ago, and the price tag was
pretty astronomical then to goin and replace everything that needs
to be replaced.
And you've got hundreds ofmiles of pipe.
60 something miles.
Yeah.
So you get.
You got a lot of.
You got a lot of miles of pipethere to replace.
To do that all at once wouldbe extremely expensive.

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That's right.
Well, it means it's completelydisruptive, too, because you gotta
rip up the ground and youdon't have enough people.
You could do it.
You couldn't do it all at one time.
You'd have to do a piece here.
And a piece here.
You have to do these things in phases.
It has to be planned out.
It takes time to do that,obviously, and a lot, a lot of money.
You know, and I, and I madethe comment on a post on Facebook
that, you know, this is theconsequence of kicking that can down

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the road, of just ignoringthis and letting this go.
That infrastructure ages andthe ground's going to move no matter
what, no matter what you do ordon't do, it's going to move.
But by not addressing theseissues now, you have, you know, 7,
8, 9, 10 water main breaksjust bam, bam, bam, back to back.
What's the plan right now?

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Obviously dealing with thewater main breaks.
You got to patch what'sbroken, you got to fix it, get it
going again.
So you restore the water service.
What is the long term planright now on that stuff?
The plan, Mike, is to try toincrease the budget annually to replace
more of those areas.
We track all the water mainbreaks, we know where all of them
are breaking, and we have afixed amount of money each year,

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roughly about million and ahalf dollars that we spend to replace
old deteriorated water lines.
And the cost of those lineshave increased by 100% in the last
two years.
Wonder what could have happened.
Exactly.
So our dollars just don't goas far as they used to when it comes
to replace water and sewermains, for that matter.

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So over the course of time,the plan is to try to keep increasing
those repair rehab dollars,focusing those on the areas that
are the most problematic waterquality areas, the water main breaks,
where they're breaking every,you know, week or so.

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And that's the only way to dothat now to increase the funding
since the utility, the waterutilities enterprise funds, which
means it only gets money thatit generates from the user fees.
So to generate additionalmoney, you either got to sell more
water or you got to go up onyour water rates.

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And neither one of those goingup on water rates is not all that
popular.
So the idea here is hopefullyin the next couple of years we'll
see some debt relief from someof the earlier bonds that we sold
and we'll have more money tobe able to focus toward rehab and
replacement of water mains,infrastructure in the treatment plants,

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themselves, equipment, thattype thing is the icon.
I got a question on that.
If, if you guys were able toget what you wanted to just replace
every old pipe out there andgot it done, is the technology such
that these would notdeteriorate the same way the old

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stuff did?
This is, I think that's right.
Terry, I think, I think thatthe new, the new pipe materials,
the PVC pipe materials andthings like that will last 100 years.
Just like the old clay top.
The old clay, not clay lines,the old galvanized, the ductile iron
lines.
Ductile iron lines last a long time.

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The cast iron lines last quitea long time.
But you, you wind up with,with water quality issues with this
whole metal materials in your system.
With PVC pipe, it's, it'lllast a long time.
Pretty clean, pretty efficient.
So.
So of course we all know thatwe have the water reuse project.
Now you guys don't have thaton all the time.

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Is that correct?
Is it depends.
It only.
You only run it when it's necessary.
Right.
So how do y'all determine whenyou're going to turn the water, when
you're going to have that going?
And not.
Because it does cost money todo it, it's free.
Sure does.
We've modeled the reservoiritself based on the water availability
model and how much inflowcomes into the lake carrier head

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and how much water goes out,how much evaporates.
And it's been determined thatwhen the water level drops 6 inches
below the spillway is when weturn on the ipr, the reuse system.
And it's been running non stopfor the last 18 months.
I forget since last time thelake was full, which has been quite
a while back, but it runs continuously.

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So what does that increase the bill?
If you weigh your bill, what'syour electric bill?
Whatever the energy that youall use to put into that, what does
that?
It's hard to say, Terry.
Exactly.
Because we have some chemicalcosts that are involved with that
to remove the phosphorus, wehave the disposal of the sludge,
we have the pumping cost.

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Obviously I did a rough numberand if I can remember off the top
of my head, and it's been,it's been close to nine or ten years
ago.
Right.
But I think when we did theDPR, I think the cost was like 60
cents a thousand gallons.
Okay.
And I think the IPR was like a$10 or $50 somewhere in that neighborhood

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per thousand gallons to treatthat water, to pump it back into
Lake Arrowhead.
Okay.
That's including existing costs.
But that's not above the base.
That's.
Or that's a total for that.
No, that's it.
That's.
That's what it costs cost totreat the water, to put it back in.
And once we take it back outof Airhead and we bring it back through
the treatment plant, that'sabout a.

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I haven't looked recently, butthat's about a dollar, another dollar
per thousand.
Before everybody gets all bentout of shape about that cost.
Think about this.
You'll go to a conveniencestore and pay $2.99 for a bottle
of Smart Water.
That's what I've been.
Hey, look, I've been sayingthis and I've said it on radio a
million times, and I've saidit there.
I, I.
It drives me bonkers when Ihear people that live in Wichita
Falls talk about their waterrates being expensive.

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You go to your tap and it is,I would say, what, 98% accurate.
It's going to work about 98,99.3% of the time or whatever it
is.
And clean, good, clean watercomes out of your tap for, is it
7/10 of a penny?
Yeah, something like that.
A gallon?
Yeah.
It is the best bargain thereis, honestly, in consumables.

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And people complain about it.
It's like cheese.
I spent most of my childhooddrinking out of garden hoses.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I'm 53 and I'm still breathing.
Well, I know we talked a lotabout water, but what other, what
other?
Your public works directorencompasses a whole lot of other
things.
So what are the other bigprojects you're kind of working on
right now, your department'sworking on?
In addition to the normalwater and sewer rehab, we're doing

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the concrete pavement and theasphalt pavement rehab.
We got those projects going.
You may have noticed Kempstreet from right in front of the
mall, where we're going in,making those base repairs.
Eventually all that getsmilled off and a whole new surface
gets put back on there.
Right now they're going in,they're going down 8 inches deep
and repairing the bases, thebase material.
So that project's ongoing.

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We have a project that's inthe works for the landfill.
The regulations for landfillgas emissions have changed.
We're going to be required toput in a gas collection system out
there now.
So we're working withconsultants to try to figure out
how to do that, the best wayto do it.
Are there potentiallycompanies out there that will come

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in and build that and harvestthe gas and put it back into the
Atmos pipeline, if, if youwill, or sell it to an end user.
There could be a way,hopefully, for that project to possibly
support itself.
Even though it's anotherregulation that we have to meet from
the state.
Hopefully there's a way tomake that thing self supporting.

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We got the ring goal we kindof talked about that project.
We're still working, advancingthat project forward.
We're in the, the state waterright phase right now.
It's at District Court in Austin.
It's been appealed.
The water rights been issued.
We have the right.
The opposition is nowappealing that.
So just another step in the process.

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We kind of knew those hurdleswere going to happen.
I mean, it was kind of expected.
You kind of baked that intothe long range plan anyway, that
there were going to bechallenges to that.
And we've talked about thisbefore about how, you know, you don't
just go out there and scrapeoff a piece of land and flood it.
Hey, we got a leg.
You know, there's a process to this.

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There's a lot to it.
And this is why it takes 20years to build a dadgum lake.
Because it's not just thephysical construction of a reservoir.
It's all the stuff in betweenall the legal battles and all of
the permitting and all of theregulation and all of the, you know,
you got, you know, 1500 peoplegot their hands on the pie.
You know, there's, it is whatit is in that regard, I guess.

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But have you seen a, just outhere, I'll say.
Have you seen a increase,decrease or about the same as far
as regulation from the stateon your, in your area over the last
decade or so?
It's been an increase.
It's been an increase, Trey.
You know, like I justmentioned the landfill gas collection

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system now.
And I don't know, maybe withthe new administration, maybe some
of that gets relaxed.
You know, with the electionbeing over now, there was a big fight
with waters of the US WhenTrump was in place.
He relaxed the definition ofwaters of the U.S.
biden got in, he reinforced itand strengthened and expanded it.
Rumor is now Trump's going toroll that back.

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So it's kind of a bit of amoving target.
But all that affects the 404permitting process for Ringo and
it affects it dramatically asit relates to mitigation and what
that's going to cost.
The other thing that we'reseeing on a water drinking water
level is you're seeing the TCQand EPA ramp up, ramp up the new

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lead and copper rule.
How much lead can your waterhave in it?
You got to go out.
And we hit.
We've had to survey all of the34,000 services inside the city.
We had to go determine whattype of material that service line
was made out of.
We had to physically inspectit and we had to report all that

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to the TCEQ and epa.
And then eventually the rulesare now the lead and copper rule.
Eventually all thosegalvanized services, which I think
there's 5,500 of them inWichita Falls, may have to be replaced.
On whose nickel?
We don't know yet.
But that's just the moving target.
And then they're talking aboutthe new pfas, the polyfluoro, the

(33:53):
forever chemicals and thefirefighting foam and stuff.
They're talking aboutbeginning to regulate those.
And so we're testing for that stuff.
We haven't found any in oursystem yet.
But it's just, I'll be betweenall of us sitting here and the people
watching this, I'll be glad ifTrump can reel in that EPA just a
little bit.
Well, he just, he just namedwho's going to be in charge of the

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epa.
He just named her or him.
I read it yesterday.
Yeah, I can't think who it is.
Lee Zeldin.
Yeah, Lee Zeldin, a formerstate representative for out of New
York and actually ran for, ranfor governor of New York and got
pretty close for a Republican.
And I've seen him a lot ininterviews and stuff.

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The guy seems very reasonableand level headed type guy.
Well, I mean, we run into thisso much.
You got all these damn threeand four letter agencies out here
that the federal governmentwon't reign, they've refused to reign
in.
They go out here and they makerules and regulations that become
de facto laws that, you know,basically you guys and all of us
citizens, everybody's got agun to your head, you will do this

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or else and it costs you money.
And yes, and I think mostpeople don't stop to realize just
how, you know, they, oh, we'regoing to make your water cleaner
hip hip, hooray.
Yes.
And it's only going to costyou about $10 billion.
I mean, you know, people don'tstop to realize that agencies make
these rules and these regulations.
But in the end it's not thegovernment paying for it, it's the

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taxpayer.
All right, I want to know something.
Just this is serious.
This is really serious.
So if when they take out thefluoride, Trump was talking about
taking the fluoride, how muchwould that actually say?
I'm just curious.
For us, it saves about, about$80,000 a year.
Right.
We spend 80,000 on fluoride.

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Wow.
Okay, that's a very interesting.
I'm just playing, but let metalk a little bit about that.
Yes, please.
Because I had this questioncome up the Other day, back in, I
think it was 1977, the citycouncil adopted a resolution that
says we will put fluoride inour water.

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And the city's done so sincethat time.
Now, you have to understand, Ithink the maximum level that the
EPA allows is like 1.5milligrams per liter.
0.5 of that is naturallyoccurring in our supplies already,
means it's coming out of thewatersheds, out of the ground.
And fluoride's actually in the water.

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Fluoride is a natural.
It's a natural occurring element.
Yeah, it's already there.
And so it comes into thetreatment plant at 0.5 milligrams
per liter.
We add another 0.2 milligramsper liter to a point seven.
So we're about half of themaximum level they say you can actually
have in your water.
And 1.5 is still.

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You can still have up to 1.5and drink it.
You're not violating any ofthe regulations.
So that's kind of where thecity is at this point.
And it was all done back inthe 70s because of the, you know.
The push for keep saving our teeth.
Yeah, exactly.
But I wonder if it really hasany effect.
I mean, I'm not expecting youto address that.
But I'm just curious if havingfluoride in our water, since everybody

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has.
Probably has fluoride in theirtoothpaste, does that really make
any difference?
And is it a waste of money ismy question.
Yeah, I don't.
I don't know for sure.
I can't answer that.
I'll tell you what it costs.
Yeah.
$80,000.
That's impressive that, youknow, off top of your head.
Yeah, well, what people don'trealize as well is when you talk
about all this, when you'retalking about regulations, all the
testing and stuff like that,all that costs money because we have

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people that were paying, thatare employees, that they're not just
sitting around like this withnothing to do.
They've got stuff to do.
But now we're having to givethem other tasks.
So either we're having to hiresomebody separate to do it, or we're
having to redirect real resources.
So everything has a cost to itbecause there is a labor cost.
Just because somebody worksfor the government.

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That once again, like yousaid, and you said a million times,
the government doesn'tgenerate money in most cases.
I know the water thing is anenterprise deal, but for the most
part, the government doesn'tgenerate money.
It.
It's.
Taxpayers pay for Most of stuff.
So.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Well I mean I love it whenpeople start talking about oh free
this, free that.
Free.
It's the most overused, abusedfour letter word in the English language.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
I don't.
Nothing's free.
Well, there's a cost that isborne by somebody somewhere all the
time.
The other one's forgiveness.
That one drives me.
We're going to forgive.
No, no, no.
The taxpayers paying for it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, as we're kind of gettingclose to the end here, do you want
to.
Is there anything else youwant to bring up and talk about?
You want to address anythingin a little bit more detail like

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green gold or anything like that?
I guess I'd like people tounderstand it that Public works is
involved in a lot of thingsinside the city relates to development,
economic development.
Water, sewer, solid waste.

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We have our.
We have.
We touch a lot of things andwe're doing the best we can with
what we have.
We've had some prices areincreasing for US Dollars just don't
go as far as they used to andbut we'll continue to do the best
job we can.
Hopefully Ring Gold will.

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Will be advancing that andtaking the next step over the.
After the first of the year bemoving in a positive direction there.
And I guess that's about it guys.
I really don't know what elseto say.
Well and I want to make apoint though on something that that
water and the streets in yourcity affect your day to day life

(39:46):
more than whoever the hell the president.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I don't care what party it is.
These guys are working for youand me to make sure that.
That we can get we don't knockat the alignment out of our.
In our car they make sure wehave clean water.
And even though I don't livein Wichita Falls, I benefit from
being close to Wichita Fallsbecause Dean Dale is where I get

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my water from.
Well and you're here, you'rehere more.
Out of the right.
You're in Wichita Falls morehours of waking hours of the day
than just.
Like I am for the Republic.
The voting, the percentage ofthe vote.
So at 10, 10% during offelection years or 20% people registered
voters show up about 10%.

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It's about 10% easy.
Yeah.
You're letting a small numberof people determine what happens
in as far as taxes.
The fact of the matter is andI think you'll agree with it your.
Your infrastructure issues,streets, water, sewers, all this
every single day has a directimpact on your ability To.
To engage in commerce.
If you don't have goodstreets, if you don't have flowing

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water, if you don't havetoilets that flush and work, if you
don't have all these thingsworking, it is going to dramatically
impact how commerce can happenin your city.
And your Amazon deliverydoesn't make it as on time or they
breaks the truck.
But, you know, whatever.
But I'm just saying.
And we need this last milefacility to succeed in a big way
too.
So.
So.

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And I want to.
Real quickly, I want to giveyou flowers here.
We had a.
And I think I texted you thisis about a year ago.
We had a water line breakright next to our store and it shut
our water down for a couple of days.
But the city guys got the.
The city water people came outand they jumped on that thing and
got it going.
And I mean it was.

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They did a great job.
They, they.
They got.
They had cursed.
There is the street guys comeout and knock the street loose.
And then water guys get downin there and stuff like that.
And the.
I walked out there just to sayhi to him and see what was going
on.
And the in.
The guy was like, oh yeah,we're doing it.
And he explained the wholething to me.
And they did a great job andthey got on it.
And so I do want to wantpeople to understand the people that

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work for the city of Wichita Falls.
I think for the most part it'slike there's bad apples everywhere.
But most part they take pridein what they do.
They want to do a good job forthe citizens of Wichita Falls.
And I think they do the.
They do, like you said, thebest they can do with the resources
they have.
They do.
I think we got a lot.
The city's got a lot ofopportunity, a lot of.
A lot of possibilities.
And I just.
I want to see everybody fromcity hall all the way down the chain

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working toward making things happen.
Real quick, I know we got towrap up city Hall.
What's the timeline?
Expected timeline to get allthe offices back.
Because then you got themspread over down.
Yeah.
Right.
All over creation.
I think.
I believe.
And don't quote me on this,but I think it's February or March
of next year.
Okay.
Move back in date.
And I bet you everybody'sgonna be happy to be kind of back
under one roof rather than.
Yeah, that scattered out dealis a little bit difficult to manage,

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but we'll get through it.
This project's been going on a while.
You had to get the foundationright under Those, I mean, that the
wings were sliding off the hill.
I mean, it was a very costly.
It's been a very timeconsuming project, but finally that
building will be right.
Hopefully for another 100 andsomething years.
I mean, it was built in 1923and it's lasted this long.

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You can get another hundredout of it.
Yeah.
I mean, you go in there withall that old exposed concrete stuff
and you can tell, you know,think about it.
1923, they had to mix all thatby hand.
Yeah, yeah.
And wheelbarrow it in.
And to get, to get a mix ofconcrete consistently the same from
pour to port, you know,throughout that building is just.

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That's pretty amazing.
They were artisans.
They really.
Those people were artists.
Yeah.
And those guys, those guys,those, those guys knew how to work.
I tell you, they earned everydollar they got.
Yeah.
And it wasn't much.
Russell Schreiber, thank youfor being with us.
We appreciate it.
My pleasure.
People have questions,comments, anything at all.
How do they reach out to you?
Reach out to the Public WorksDepartment, 940-761-7477, or use

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the contact City hall softwarethat's on the city website, and we'll
try to get your issue orconcern taken care of as quick as
possible.
Thank you very much for beingwith us.
We appreciate it.
Thank you, guys.
Stay tuned.
We're gonna come back and wrapup this episode to get it right.
Textile in just a moment.
Stay tuned.

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Hey, welcome back.
Get a ride.
Tech summit.
We want to thank RussellSchreiber for joining us.
Great, great, great information.
Yeah, he's good dude fromRussell, and.
He'S really smart and he'sreally, really knowledgeable.
It amazes me sometimes how hecan pull some of the stuff, like
the fluoride thing.
Yeah, pull.
He knew, he knew.
I mean, he knows how muchroughly it costs fluoride, and that's
just pretty amazing.

(44:38):
Well, you know, and I guessyou do a job like that for a number
of years and that becomesyour, you know, that's your central
focus.
I mean, the whole.
Just shows that he cares abouthis job and does a good job.
Yeah, well, that's a, that's asalary of an employee.
That's a truck.
That's, you know, $80,000 justfor fluoride.
But anyway.
Yeah, it is.
That would be a new truck.

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Not a loaded truck, but.
No, a tradesman.
Yeah, yeah, that's a tradesman.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's a whole.
That's a whole other topic.
Yeah, we don't have time to get.
Into that one, we'll talk alittle bit about Trump and the election.
Trump.
What?
Yeah, this guy.
Maybe you've heard of himthese days.
Yeah.
Kind of tall, little mouthy,pretty smart.

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Kind of orangey here.
A little orangey, yeah.
Anyway, Donald Trump won 14out of the 18 counties within 20
miles of the border.
And this is in Texas.
The Valley went for Trump.
Yes.
The border counties went for Trump.
14 out of 18.
Yeah.
And he carried all fourcounties in the Rio Grande Valley.

(45:43):
Yes.
The whole ground.
So.
Also known as the rgv.
Yes.
But here, read this other stat.
This is one of the mostinteresting little nuggets I found.
Star county in Star County.
Star county had voted Democratin every presidential.
Presidential race since 1896.
Holy smokes.

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That means.
And that is the longest streakin the whole nation of one county
voting.
For one party the first timein 118 years.
Yes.
And Star county went for Trumpthis year.
This.
This guy.
That is incredible.
Look, and look, I know thatsome people love him, some people

(46:24):
hate him, some people are kindof like where I am.
I love his policies.
Don't like the guy.
But whatever it is, there's nodoubt that this was a.
A big, A big win.
There was no doubt, not onlyin the electoral college, but the
popular vote.
There's no doubt that this wasa mandate.
Yes.

(46:44):
And to even put another bow onthis, when you talk about bringing
in.
Bringing in people, I saw inWichita Falls a Trump bumper sticker
on a Prius.
Well, that could be one of myneighbors, actually.
I love it.
I saw a Trump bumper stickeron a Prius in Wichita Falls.

(47:06):
Yeah, I mean, look, I neverthought I'd see a Trump bumper sticker
on a Prius.
Usually it's a coexist or somestyle hate bullshit thing on the
back of a Prius.
Yeah.
So I have to.
I have to.
Now slow down.
I still don't see a Trumpbumper stick on a Smart.
A Smart car, whatever that is.
But a smart car.
Well, but a Prius.

(47:27):
I want to talk a little bithere about some of his cabinet picks.
So.
So a couple of interestingthings real quick.
Talk about who he did, who hecame out publicly and said, I'm not
picking these.
Mike Pompeo is not coming back.
Nikki Haley's not coming back back.
He specifically.
Well, you know, whatever reason.

(47:48):
Yeah.
And there's a lot of peopleout there.
There's a lot of people outthere that talk about Nikki Haley
kind of being a little bit ofa warhawk.
And I don't I didn't know thatin the past, but it came out.
Vivek Ramaswamy really broughtthat out during the campaign.
And that may be something thatDonald Trump went and further investigated
his team.
Look, the fact is Donald Trumpis not going, I'm going to take this

(48:09):
part.
He does, he can't possibly doevery pick himself all by himself.
He has a team of people aroundhim that are advising him on this
stuff.
But any, I didn't want tointerrupt, but that's that, I think
that's pretty significant.
I think they're being muchmore strategic in his cabinet selections
in all of this than they werethe first time around.

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This is a different game.
Well, the first time around,they didn't know anybody.
I mean, the first time aroundhe was an outsider.
He didn't, he knew some of thepeople in Washington, but he didn't
know, did not know the systemof Washington.
And it is a system and hedidn't know it and he didn't know
how to navigate it.
And a lot of the people hehired he thought were going to be
good people for him, and they weren't.
But if you think about it,too, you know how life happens, that,

(48:50):
that things happen.
I don't know, you can arguewhether it's for a reason or whatever.
But, but certainly the, the,he's prepared better, whether that
was a divine intervention thatput him in the place where he was
and then we had a break andnow he's coming back.
He's much more prepared.
Yeah, he's much more prepared.
And you know how life, youkind of have to go through life,

(49:10):
whether you're thepresidential candidate or just us
as individuals to haveexperienced things and that prepare
you for the next thing?
Well, I think so far the onethat the pick that's the most on
fire is the new border czar, aTrump I, a term I hate, by the way.
I don't like it either.
Yeah.
But Tom Holman, he's a formerICE official.
Did you hear this guy yesterday?

(49:33):
Very blunt, very straightforward.
Yeah, I've heard Tom, I didn'thear him yesterday, but I've heard
Tom Holman speak quite a bitover the last few years.
Yes, he is very blunt.
Very blunt.
And, and in a nutshell, we'regoing to fix this period.
It's going to happen.
So Tom Holman is going to bethe border czar.
It looks like he's afterGovernor Christy Noem of South Dakota

(49:57):
to be the director of HomelandSecurity, if you'll remember.
All dogs are shaking in Their.
Oh, if you'll remember, allbad dogs.
If you remember, if we go backa couple of years, I was saying that
I thought she was going to beon the short list for vp.
Yeah.
And she was I think for a time.
And then some things happenedand that.

(50:19):
Public perception of thatstupid dog, her book.
Oh, that, yeah, that shifted.
Well now, now Director ofHomeland Security.
I really like Christy Noah.
I think as a governor, I thinkshe's very smart.
I think she's very capable.
We'll see how she does thefederal level.
But I think she's, I thinkshe's a good pick for a position

(50:43):
now Homeland Security.
I don't know.
Is she the right pick for that?
I don't know.
We also know that as of thismorning, as of the recording of this,
we're recording this episodeon the 12th of November, I saw this
morning, Republicans are goingto maintain control of the House.
Officially.
Officially, they got the 218 votes.
So we got the House, we gotthe Senate, we got the White House.

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Don't screw it up.
This, this is yet anotherhistoric opportunity.
Republicans, can you pleasetry to keep your head out of your
backside and get things doneand done right, please, Please.
Well, I, I think Lee Zeldinhas been tasked to be the, the director
of the epa and I've seen himinterviewed several years over last

(51:30):
few years.
He's a real, he's a, he seemslike a very level headed, intelligent
person.
So I think that'll be.
And you definitely need somelevel hell and intel intelligence
in that agency there for sure.
Yeah.
So, so he, we'll see how hiscabinet fills out.
I expect that Vivek Ramaswamywill be in the cabinet.
I do too.
I suspect that Tulsi Gabbardwill be in the cabinet.
Yep.
I suspect that Robert Kennedywill be in the cabinet.

(51:54):
So we'll see.
Well, it didn't as in he ormaybe Trump hasn't.
But maybe somebody affiliatedwith Trump has talked about RFK Jr
being Secretary of.
Health or something or maybewhether he's gonna be a secretary
or some advisor or someadvisor type thing.
Yeah, because like Elon Muskfor instance.

(52:14):
I think Elon Musk will be partof the Cabinet.
He won't be a secretary, but Ithink Elon Musk will be involved
in, in the Trump administration.
Advisory, advisory role.
Which I don't have a problemwith that.
I do not have a problem.
The guy who's probably thesmartest guy on the planet right
now or at least the best, bestinventive Guy.

(52:37):
And by the way, he checks a box.
He's African American.
He is.
He is.
Nobody ever talks about himbeing African American, but he is.
He is.
He's an African American.
Technically.
He's from South Africa.
He's as African American asany other.
He's as African American.
He's more African American.
Right.
Because he actually.
Than anybody who's born in America.

(52:58):
Yeah, true, but.
And he's got a really cool story.
If you go back and look at hisorigins, how he started.
There was a computer.
It was a computer tech thingthat he started.
Oh, well, PayPal.
He was behind PayPal.
Yeah.
But before some video gamesstuff, mid-90s.
Stuff, Microsoft tried to takeover what he was doing and he fought

(53:19):
him off.
And really cool story.
But I do not have a problemwith an elected official.
I don't care if it's agovernor, a mayor, the president.
I don't care who it is, a congressman.
I do not have a problem withthese elected officials going out
and seeking the advice thecouncil of people smarter than they

(53:39):
are, people that know morethan they do.
I have no problem with.
I don't expect my electedofficial to just because he's an
elected official have all the answers.
He just suddenly blessed.
Anybody who's the boss knowsthat you don't, you don't have to
be the best at everything inyour business.
And you generally know yousurround yourself with smart people.
The hydrogen bomb and all thestuff back during World War II and

(54:00):
all the.
They had all those engineersworking out there.
I mean.
Yeah, they can't clearly.
I mean, that's, that's an example.
And so why not do it in manyother areas, especially these days
with technology.
Technology.
Surround yourself with thebest people you can find.
Well, this is, this greatdecision made me crazy when they
were talking about the.
When people were saying, I'mnot going to take that Trump vaccine.

(54:21):
Like Trump is in the lab witha lab coat on.
Or, or Ivermectin's thedevil's poison, because Donald Trump
said it.
Donald Trump had probablynever heard of ivermectin before
he heard some doctors say,hey, ivermectin, maybe it's.
It does these and this othersort of thing.
It may help help against the coronavirus.
And all of a sudden hementions it and now Ivermectin is

(54:43):
like said the devil's sperm orsomething like that.
And it's in, in the, in themedia, and it's like, y'all, none
of y'all knew what Ivermectin was.
But it's not like Donald Trumpcame up with that idea his own or.
Donald Trump invented this vaccine.
Right.
Come on.
That's right.
Use your brain.
Yeah, there you go.
But I.
But I do not have a problem.
Surround yourself, Mr.

(55:04):
Trump, with the best peopleyou can find, with people smarter
than you, with people that areinvolved in things that you are not
directly and have not beendirectly involved in.
We need this country to be as successful.
This whole thing, maga, makeAmerica great again, it's not just
a slogan.
It needs to be the goal.

(55:24):
We need to be.
You do not want anyone else atthe top of the tree.
You just don't.
America is the only country,as far as I'm concerned, the only
country in the world that isas uniquely poised as we are to be
at the top of the tree.
Yeah.
Period.
Well, you don't want anyone else.
It's because our freedoms, ourvalues, shared values and all that

(55:46):
sort of thing.
There's a lot of reasons why astrong, prosperous America is good
for the rest of the world.
You know, you hear the whole.
Everybody, the whole thingabout all a good.
All tides raise boats orwhat's the saying?
A high tide raises all boats.
Raises all ships.
Yeah, exactly.
So, I mean, you definitelywant us at the top of the tree.

(56:08):
That means we've got to be thebest at everything we do to the greatest
extent that we can, and we'vegot to do as much as we can.
I'm looking forward and we'restarting to see it.
I've noticed a few minor things.
We're starting to see moremanufacturing coming back to our
country.
We're starting to see somethings being pulled back from China,
being pulled back from Mexico,being pulled back from India, being

(56:31):
pulled back into the United States.
Now I do think we are going tolean more heavily on Mexico and India
for some things than we will China.
I think the realization thatwith China, that you're dealing with
not just a communist country,but a communist country with bad
intentions for us.

(56:52):
When you look at some of thethings, some of the data breaches
that they have been involvedin that have been linked back to
China, when you look at someof the other things.
Well, I mean, if you want, andI don't consider this minor, but
trademark violations.
Oh, yeah.
IP stealing ip, it's mindboggling what they will sign off

(57:14):
on, what they're okay withletting happen.
And you don't have a lot oflegal recourse against them.
Almost none, in fact.
The only thing you can stop Islike we see in our store people coming
in with counterfeit AirPods a lot.
And those have the Apple logo.
I mean, on the outside, justlooking for the average person.

(57:36):
But then once we get it in, wecan tell build quality and other
things.
But.
But that is an example of this stuff.
You pull it out of the thingand the little thingy goes down.
Yeah, right.
Or that just the weight of it.
The.
There's just.
And if you look real close,there's a little C in front of it.
Says Crapple.
Yeah.
No, they don't know they're Boulder.
That just says.
I mean, it.
It literally.
They violated.
Years ago, there was somebodyknocking off Rolex as this company

(57:58):
and they.
It said R O L and a tinylittle L, E, X.
It was a Rolex.
It looked like it and all that.
And yet they look real tinybecause that is R O, L.
Same.
Same thing.
But they put a little bit ofyell between the set first L& the.
You know, there was a timewhen the height of counterfeiting

(58:18):
anything was American currencyand Rolex watches.
And now it's air.
Famously, the guy in New YorkCity on Times Square who had the
trench coat open and had thewatches hanging there.
Yeah, the 995 Rolex.
And Apple is one of the onecompany's products that are.
Obviously, we see it a lot,but there's.
There's probably a ton ofothers, but especially Apple, because

(58:39):
they can get those into thecountry and then they're selling
them through, you know, thesepeople that.
Oh, they think they're buyingsome good.
Some of these dealers, theseguys are people selling them on ebay
or.
Well, they're not reallyprobably selling on ebay.
They're selling on Marketplace.
And when somebody contactsthem, they don't.
Sometimes the person sellingthem thinks they're real.
Well, generally.

(58:59):
Look, here's the thing.
Here's about everything.
Generally, you get what youpay for.
Sure do.
If it's too good a deal to.
It's usually too good a dealis too good a deal.
That's right.
If it looks like it's too goodto be true, it probably is.
Absolutely.
Probably is.
Guys, we'll wrap it up here.
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the public works director forthe city of Wichita Falls.

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