January 3, 2025 • 45 mins
Kick off the New Year right with Mike Hendren, Terry McAdams, and Trey Sralla as they dive into a fun and lively chat with local star Ann Arnold Ogden, Executive Director of the Wichita Falls Alliance for Arts and Culture!
🎉 In this episode:
- 📺 From TV to Arts Advocate: Ann Arnold Ogden shares her journey from TV screens to leading a cultural renaissance in Wichita Falls.
- 🖌️ Big Bronze Dreams: Ann reveals behind-the-scenes insights into the creation of the stunning Charlie Ferris sculpture and its historical significance.
- 🍖 BBQ Spotlight: Terry dishes on his favorite local franchise, Dickies Barbecue Pit, owned by Ed Aguilar. Pro tip: Try the brisket!
- 🌟 Texoma Pride: Real talk on promoting Wichita Falls and celebrating the amazing, creative talent in our community.
- 🎨 Exciting Announcements: Upcoming projects including art advocacy at the state level and innovative public art installations around town—stay tuned for updates!
- 😂 Friendly Banter: The crew hilariously debates local hot spots, discusses intriguing scams, and dives into some political chatter.
👍 Support Local: Don’t miss your chance to visit Dickies BBQ on Lawrence Road—recommended by Terry and backed by Trey!
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📍 Local Businesses & People Mentioned:
- Ann Arnold Ogden – Wichita Falls Alliance for Arts and Culture
- Dickies Barbecue Pit – Ed Aguilar (Lawrence Road)
- Charlie Ferris Sculpture – Wichita County Courthouse
- Midwestern State University (MSU)
- River Bend Nature Center – Jennica Lambert
- Wichita Falls Chamber of Commerce – Ron Kitchens
- Legacy High School – Troy Ferris
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You make this rather snappy,won't you?
I have some very heavythinking to do before 10:00.
Hey, welcome to anotherepisode of Get It Right Texoma with
trio Mike Hendren, TerryMcAdams, Trey Sralla. Very happy
to have you with us. We gettogether to entertain, inform and
hopefully enlighten you asoften as possible. We appreciate
you being here. Of course,you're probably watching this after
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the holidays are over with, right?
So I hope you had a good holiday.
Hope everybody up. Good Christmas.
When will this hit approximately?
Oh, probably around NewYear's, I'm thinking.
So might be a New Year Year's surprise.
It could, this could be, thiscould be the New Year's surprise
for you.
By the way, we do have anempty seat, which means we do have
a guest coming in.
We do.
And Arnold Ogden.
Yes.
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Of famous Wichita.
Yes.
Local, Local celebrity.
Yeah, she. Well, she was onthe, the television.
Absolutely.
Yes, yes, I saw that on the tv.
Now she's the executivedirector of the Arts Alliance Council,
I believe.
Yeah, she'll talk about that.
Okay, well, maybe she'll tellus about the TV when she was on there.
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The television.
Be sure to check out ourwebsite. Get it right, texoma.com
we're on Facebook as well. Besure to like and share our Facebook
page and be sure to subscribeto our YouTube channel as well, please,
if you would. And there's nota lot happening around the area to
talk about. Yeah, everything'skind of beginning of a new year coming
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up and just not a lothappening right now. So we're going
to jump right into our localrestaurant focus here.
And this is a Terry Pick right here.
This is Terry's Pick.
It's not really local local,but it kind of is. And we can kind
of explain.
So Barbecue Dickies Barbecueopened up a number of years ago and
I can't remember exactly whatyear it was, but basically I've actually
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been helping every singleowner since they opened.
Barbecue is a national chainor regional, at least Texas.
Yeah, it's based, I think in Dallas.
I think it's based in Dallas. Yeah.
And anyway, it's a, a, it's afranchise. And so this local was
opened a number of years agoand it's had a few owners over the
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years. And then, andunfortunately one of the owners got
a little challenged and it wassold off to someone. And who then?
I mean, I think it's hadthree, four owners. Four or five
owners since then. But here'sthe thing. Here's the great Thing
Again, I've helped every oneof those because I really, really,
really like the, the barbecuethat they have. And so Ed Aguilar.
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Aguilar, huh? Yeah. He owns itcurrently and he's from Dallas, but
he moved his family up hereand bought this franchise and he
has turned around. He's gonefrom concrete to barbecue to barbecue,
and he is doing a phenomenaljob. He has really brought up the
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standards there, worked withthe franchisee, the company, and
has really learned a lot. I'mjust impressed, I have to say. They
are my favorite barbecue inthis town.
Okay.
I like the others. There'ssome pretty good ones. But when,
especially when what was theone on that had the stage and everything?
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Anyway, I forget the name ofit. Anyway, they're gone. They had
really good barbecue, too.
But anyway, the Rafter J. NotRaptor J, the one that was. I know
what you're talking about. Yeah.
It was a craft barbecue place.Yes. So, but anyway, I, I have found
as. Especially if it's donecorrectly, they do it. They do a
phenomenal job, but they haveall kinds of things. But it is a
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locally owned, in terms ofthe, the franchise. Right. So, so
some of that money does stay here.
So, so it's not a local, it'snot a locally owned and operated
business, but it's a locallyowned and operated franchise. So,
yes, some of the profitsobviously do go to the national,
but a lot.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So.
And I will say they employpeople from Wichita Falls or local
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people.
I will say of the chainbarbecue places that I've eaten,
Dickies has been my favorite.
Right.
So far.
And, but it's also havingworked with all the different owners
over the years, I, I, I cantell you that it really does make
a difference on who runs thatplace. It is a absolute. He, if you
follow there now, he's therebecause there's an art to cooking,
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especially brisket.
I was going to say. Ye.Especially brisket. Even smoked meats.
Yes.
Even if they have that, thatformula, if you will. Still, it is.
He's learned some things.
Time and temperature means alot when it comes to that sort of
stuff.
So I think that you reallyought to give it a shot, especially
if you've had a bad experiencewith them. Because that's true. Before
he took over, there had beensome challenges and he really, really
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wants, I mean, he is dedicatedto this business. I mean, just, it's,
it's amazing.
Dicky's Barbecue, they're onthe, they're on.
Lawrence Road, right here,next between what's the Bo Cavenders
and the haircut in the haircutplace. Yes, they're.
They're right there. Like inthat little strip mall.
Yes, yes. And they, like Isaid, they do a great job. And just,
just Terry says check themout. Check it out.
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Yeah, do that.
So bakers are awesome too. But anyway.
Oh, well, we do have aninterview coming up here and Arnold
Ogden is going to join us nexthere on Get It Right Texoma. And
she, she'd been a guest on. Onmy radio show and I haven't talked
to her in quite a while.
Yeah, you know, catch up, seehow things are.
I haven't seen her in a whileuntil she just walked in a moment
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ago. Yes, she's waiting in thewings over here. Yes, we'll take
her in the green room. She'sin the green. She's in the green
room putting on the purple. Sowe'll be. We'll be back right after
this. Stay tuned. Short breakhere. More Get It Right Textilema
on the way. And welcome backto Get a Ride Textilema with the
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trio. And our very specialguest, as promised, is Ann Arnold
Ogden. And welcome.
Thank you. I'm so excited tobe here.
It's been a day or two sincewe've seen.
You know that. That radioalways made me so nervous. I feel
like you both knew this. Thatradio always made me so, so nervous.
Now we're combining radio with tv.
Yeah.
Which I don't know how I feel.This is my first like this podcast.
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But here's the thing, though.You were on TV for so long and so
natural at it.
Right.
That.
Yeah.
I can't imagine.
So natural at reading aprompter. Yeah.
I know there were times thatyou didn't because I saw you one
time.
That's true.
Reporting live. I was on theradio. Way to the radio station one
when you probably don'tremember this out at the.
There was snow and they put mein the intersection.
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There was a snow and. And Ibrought by and I didn't realize she
was on the air live. I thoughtshe was just standing there waiting
for her thing. I swung by, Isaid, and what.
Are you doing out in the rain?
She said, I'm out here tracerRaleigh in the snow or something
like that. Live on TV.
That's true.
Yeah. Do you have a TV voice,like a lot of 100? Okay. I'd like
to hear it.
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Yeah. Well, it's on now.
Oh.
Oh, well, you don't.
What you. What you hear allthe time is the TV voice. I paid
a lot of money to not talklike I'm from southeast Texas.
So you're always so I am.
Well, not always. There aretimes. So I have a 5 year old now
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and I can hear the southeastTexas in him a little bit.
Yeah.
So he said one day, mommy,daddy put a fire in the fireplace.
I just had to laugh. And I waslike, that's me.
Sorry.
Firefighters.
Well, that's what I was sayingabout the tv. We got a TV star.
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I too spent a lot of money.Not to sound like a bale of hay,
but occasionally I do well.
And it's slipped a lot in thelast 10 or so years. So I do anytime
I would talk to a localsheriff, so Kenny Lemons, for example,
when he was sheriff in Claycounty, anytime I called him, that
southeast Texas slipped back in.
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Yeah.
And everyone in the newsroomwould like, look and be like, who
was he talking to? And I waslike, oh, he got Ann, he got Anna.
Get somebody else. Yes.
I never spent any money and Istill sound like a bell. Hey, I'm
one of those people that Isound like I'm talking now. I feel
like I'm sounding normal, butwhen I listen to myself recorded,
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I feel like I'm trying to.
Everybody, everybody come ondown here to.
The goats gruin or something.
Everybody thinks they soundterrible. That's totally normal.
Oh, yeah, this TV station.When Skip was there, I was. So we
had Skip on.
How's he doing? He doesn'tcall, he doesn't write, but.
He does his little weatherreports occasionally.
Right.
And I think that's awesome.
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Skip was on a few weeks, a fewmonths ago.
It feels like everybody wasthere when Skip was there because
it feels like.
He was there forever there fora long time.
A very long time.
All right, so we got the passout of the way. So currently, tell
everybody what you. What isyour current position in Wichita
Falls?
What are you doing these daysbesides building fires in the fireplace,
raising children?
I am the executive director ofthe Witch Falls alliance for Arts
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and Culture. We work with artsorganizations like the Kemp center,
which is the arts council, andthe Art association, which is gallery.
And we work with. We've gotabout 13 or 14 actually here in Wichita
Falls. And so we serve as agrant making arm for the city of
Wichita Falls. So they havemoney that they have to use not on
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potholes. You know, the hoteloccupied occupancy tax can only be
used for tourism, marketing,promotion of the arts, historic restoration,
those kind of things. So thecity gives us a Pot of that money.
And we in turn do grants fororganizations so that they can continue
being something the city canmarket and attract tourists. We do
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public art projects. We justwrapped up a huge project in October.
And thank you, Trey, forcoming. That was really nice of you
to come here.
Troy Ferris is actually a dearfriend of mine. Yeah, Troy and I
are very close friends.
And so you weren't there forme is what you're saying.
Yeah, I came there. Just seeyou. Yeah, yeah. The Charlie. Charlie
Ferris exhibit. And if youhaven't seen it, it is phenomenal.
Charlie Ferris was a veryhistoric person in this. In Wichita
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Falls. She was the first blackfemale lawyer in the state of Texas
and was a prominent figure.
Put the emphasis on that.Wrong. In the state of Texas. The
entire.
Absolutely.
Date of Texas. She was thefirst black woman licensed.
To be a lawyer, which is.
She's from here and she's.
Yeah, she grew up here andcame back here, practiced law here.
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And her. And her son is aprominent educator here in Wichita
Falls. Yeah, Troy Ferris, he'sbeen a lot of different. He's been
a teacher and all that.Principal. And he's currently serving
as associate principal ofLegacy High School.
Yes.
So. And he's a doctor. Pha. Infact, I told him one time, I said,
troy, I said, I would hate tohave to be in your family. He said,
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what do you mean? I said Iwould be the dummy in your family.
I said, all your. Everybody inyour family has doctors and this
and that. Like, oh, Trey, youjust got a bachelor's degree. I'm
the dummy. But anyhow, CharlieFerris was a phenomenal lady, and
her mother was a. RobertaFerris was a phenomenal lady. And
just Grandma Ferris used tocall her Grandma Ferris. But it's.
So that. That whole thing thaty'all put together just kind of explain
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a little bit the magnitude ofwhat that took to put that together.
What did you say the ratingwas on this show?
PG 13.
Oh, no, no.
NC 17, maybe.
No way.
No, it's not that bad.
You know, we, we, we. Thecounty actually came to us about
this project in 2000 when wewere all in the thick of zoom meeting.
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And so it really, it startedthen. And we have been raising money
for all that time. We willstill take money for this project
if you'd like to give it tous. And, and working with a sculptor,
you know, price of bronze hasbeen like this. It's, it's. It's
been very big learningexperience for me to do something.
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It's. It's a nine foot tallsculpture of Ms. Ferris on the courthouse
lawn right across from her oldoffice. And it's. You know, she worked
at the courthouse in a timewhere she couldn't use the same water
fountain as other people thatshe worked with her colleagues. The
same restroom or her restroomwas on a different floor from everyone
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else. So to look at the thingsthat she achieved and then the things
she put back into thiscommunity. You know, she worked with
so many organizations. I'mpartial to the arts one. She was
on the symphony board whenthey brought in Duke Ellington. There
are children's advocacy groupsand so many people that have benefited
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from who she is.
She was also on the MSU Boardof Regents.
Yeah, Board of Regents. Ofcourse. Yeah. So it was, it was really
an honor to. To recognizesomeone who so deserved it and would
have hated the whole pomp, allof it. And I fully acknowledge that.
And I. I do feel bad aboutthat. But she deserves everything
this community's done and more.
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So if you get a chance, gocheck it out. It's. It's like you
said, it's on the. It's acrossthe courthouse from the veterans.
Memorial on the courthouse line.
Right. So it's the front doorof the courthouse that nobody uses.
Yeah, the front. The frontdoor. Everybody uses the side door
now, but the front door isactually what was used for many,
many years.
And the county actually, fortheir partnership and support of
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this project, actually won amajor statewide award this summer
for supporting it throughTexans for the Arts. And, you know,
it is incredible, thiscommunity. There's something so special.
I mean, there really is aboutWichita Falls and North Texas. You
get support in surprisingplaces for projects that are also
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surprising. And it's just.It's really lovely.
Well, you know, that brings meto a topic we all talk a lot about.
There's a lot of firsts thathave happened here with Ms. Farrows,
for example. There's a lot ofbig things that have come out of
our community over the years,and there's a lot of big things that
happen here, but we do such apoor job. And I put the blame on
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city government. I put theblame on citizens. I put the blame
on everybody. We do such apoor job of marketing ourselves.
We do such a poor job ofpromoting ourselves. Anytime I hear
someone say Wichita Falls,where is that? I'm like, well, okay,
we still suck at marketingourselves. And one of my big things
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is speaking of art, becauseyou got a lot of art on that campus,
the Midwestern StateUniversity campus, you know, is jam
packed with artwork, but wedo. Somebody could drive through
this city and never know MSUis there. They can drive completely
through town and never knowthat the college exists here. What
can an organization like yoursdo to kind of. Or what are you guys
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doing to kind of help furtherthe marketing of the city or something
like Midwestern? I mean, isthere any kind of an alliance there
that has developed yet or isin the works?
You know, it's, it's, it'sinteresting. And you guys know my
past job was to market the city.
Yes.
Don't do that anymore. Right.You know, I think that for whatever
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reason there's, there's thisidea that we don't. Maybe it's, you
know, inside us, I don't know.But that in Wichita Falls we don't
deserve nice things. Andthey're already here.
Yeah.
But for whatever reason, it's,it's. We don't feel like all the
wonderful things we have, likeeither we don't deserve them or we
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shouldn't. You know, we, we'rejust. I don't, I don't know what
it is. I'm not a psychologistand so Wisconsin.
Suffers from low self esteem.
I think so too.
Yeah. Yeah, I think you'reright. Well, someone told me here
recently, told me, said weseem to be afraid of inviting anyone
from the outside in.
Well, now I'm from outside andI feel like I. I mean, I've been
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here for years. I don't know.I don't know. I think my role now
is to continue making this abeautiful place to live, to celebrate
the creativity that's here andto showcase that more broadly. And
I am working to do that. Youknow, we are actively recruiting
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for Texans for the Arts tobring their conference here to Wichita
Falls so they can see. Yeah,we've got sculpture and murals and
artist galore. This is awildly creative town, whether you
think it is or not.
Right.
And we are wildly creativepeople. And you have to be to live
someplace as hot as WichitaFalls is.
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Hot and cold and cold andwindy, isn't it?
On that note though, about ourself esteem as a. Collectively as
a city. It's sad when I, tome, I'm sad when I'm reading on a
lot of the social media poststhat this town. La la la la la. That
you fill in the blank and it'sa negative thing. They, you know,
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drivers, every. I meanthere's, it's just, it's as if we
are unique in, in some wayswe, we absolutely are unique. Let's
celebrate those things. Butwe're not. They make it sound like
we're the worst drivers, we'rethe worst this. Well, I guess there
was something about that.There was some objective information,
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but it's just not about that.We don't have this and we don't have
that. The more we speaknegatively, that's what happens.
You know what I mean?
I'm off of social media. Yeah.I don't focus on those things fully.
I don't read those thingsunless I stumble across them. Now,
do I miss a lot of things?Sure, I do. But I'm okay with it.
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You know, I know what myinterests are. I know. I know what
is happening in the artscommunity, what's happening across
the city for the things I'minterested in. I know when there's,
like, Mother's Day outhappening at the Y. Thank you very
much. On my way, dropping himnow. You know, I'm in my own insular
little bubble, and I've been alot happier not complaining to everybody
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and their mom about what makesme angry. My husband gets all of
it.
I think, you know, a lot ofthose people that you're talking
about, I think they're few innumber. I don't think there's. There's
a lot of them. But. But socialmedia has given them a bullhorn to
shout to the world about howaggravated they are. And my message
to those people is, if youhate it that much, I will be glad
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to contribute the first $100to your flight anywhere on the globe
you want to go or even.
Even more. Like what. What areyou doing to make it better?
Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
If you're creative, are youmaking art and putting it somewhere?
Are you. Are you. Do you needto get lo. Can you find a group to
feel like this is a place thatmakes the rest of us very happy?
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What do you need that we canfill as citizens?
You mentioned being unpluggedfrom social media. Yeah. Among the
many things I do now,everything I'm doing requires me
to be connected to people insome way. And social media. I'm in
the real estate business. Wecan't do that job now without technology.
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Right.
There's absolutely. There is.It would be absolutely impossible
to do our job withouttechnology and because we're very
dependent on it. And socialmedia is where we meet a lot of our
customers.
Absolutely. And I'm notsaying, you know, that's. My organization
is on social media. It has tobe there. That is how we communicate.
What we're doing with people.
But you're talking about onyour personal side. I'm the same
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way. My business is on socialmedia too, but I don't sit around
on Facebook. You will neversee me go, right. Well, you know,
mindlessly scrolling across stuff.
I don't care because it is.You can go down a rabbit hole quick
with it, you know, way toofast and so that you have to. But
like with your organization,obviously everything is hyper focused
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on your mission and whatyou're doing, what you're trying
to accomplish. Do you get alot of negativity on your.
Not on. No art. We don'tsocial and if we have, I haven't
heard about it. I'm not onrants and raves, so I don't, I don't
know.
Oh God. That is the most.That's, that's got to be the most
useless social media page ever.
I do, I do feel like if wewere, someone would tell me. But
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I also, you know, I don't wantto waste my time. Our lives are so
short as it is. I don't wantto waste my time and I don't want
to waste other people's timedoing projects that aren't important
in some way meaningful in someway. I'm not going to waste our organization
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or funders dollars on projectsthat are just like, oh, I just got
to get money in and out thedoor. It's going to be meaningful,
it's going to be important,it's going to be impactful and hopefully
it's going to get more peopleengaged with arts and culture in
our community.
Well, and I go back to what Iwas saying about marketing our city
and our college and ShepardAir Force Base and all the great
things we've got here. There'sa lot of opportunity, I think, for
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everybody, especially anorganization like yours, to take
a leadership role infurthering educating the world about
who we are, where we are andwhat we offer.
Absolutely.
I think there's a leadershipopportunity there for everybody.
And of course, I think thechamber has done a really good job
at that under Ron's leadershipthat's going on.
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The idea we talked abouttechnology and the arts. That is
a thing of combining the two.And I mean, just think about it.
Just even video, the actual,you know, producing videos of various
sorts that promote things orjust a documentary or whatever.
Well, even further than that,we're hoping to do some workshops
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on technology, AI and the artsand what the future holds ahead for
that. Because people cancreate art with AI, but what are
the copyright, you know,implications or trademarking?
And I would love to beinvolved in that.
I would love to.
I have put on some. I'm not anartist by any means.
It says that I'm gonna find itthough, so.
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But, but I've done apresentation to various organizations
in town on AI, Worked with theSmall Business Development center
and I. The ethics behind.
Yeah, absolutely. That's gonnabe key as we move ahead. You know,
what, what are thoseimplications? And if I create this
song using social or using AI,you know, who owns the song technically,
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how much do I earn? Am Ilicensing this from the AI company?
So there's some really, it'sinteresting issues.
And things to address.
Looking at 2025 because thiswill come out basically around, right
around New Year's. So looking.
Happy New Year. Somebody drinka big old bottle of champagne for
me.
There you go.
New Year's looks so different.As a mom, just saying.
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I, I was a mom, I don't know.But as a parent.
Okay, sorry, go ahead. In 2025.
So in what is coming up,what's on the radar? What can people
look forward to the organization?
Well, we are going to be doinga lot more advocacy work. We are
planning to take a group ofarts leaders down to Austin to talk
to our legislators down thereabout what we do here and why it
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matters. You know, the artsisn't just about making beautiful
things and the fun, touchyfeely parts of it. There's also an
economic component to it. In2023, the arts had $19.1 million
economic impact. That's a nonprofit arts. We're not talking about
architects and you guys doingthese creative jobs. That's all part
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of the arts. So we're going tobe doing a lot of advocacy work.
We're going to be teachingarts organizations how to get those,
those government contracts andthose, those different, you know,
because we get money from theNational Endowment for the Arts,
which is federal government,the state government and local government.
And you know, that's there isa place for the arts in community
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development. So we're going tobe talking a lot about that. We have
got several projects lined upin Burke Burnett. I'm still waiting
for funding news on those. SoI don't want to go too far down that,
but invite me back becausethey're going to be fun.
Okay.
I think it's about gettingpeople out and active making art
where they are not aware thatthey either enjoy it or think they're
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creative or think they're anartist. But they're. Part of us wants
to be doing something with ourhands. I think that's something that
is innate with all of us,whether it's working or something
else. But we have big thingsahead. All that to say, and I'm so
excited for the city andwhat's ahead.
Yeah, well, a lot ofpossibilities. I've been saying for
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a long time.
That's gonna be huge. They'vegot a new futsal court out at Bridwell
Parks.
All soccer, which is really aform of soccer.
I don't know anything aboutsoccer, and I'm sorry, everyone,
but I am painting. I'm notpainting now.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Futsal?
Yes. It's basically you take abasketball court generally, and it's
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a ball that doesn't bouncevery well, but you. It's this. But
it's soccer, essentially, andyou have goals and you. And you just
have a touchline. We play itat the ymca. I haven't played in
a while. I need to it back out there.
But yeah, usually you and you.And you don't use 11.
On 11, right. 5, 6, whatever.
It's almost like indoor soccer.
It's indoor soccer at a small scale.
Yeah, yeah.
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And with a. With a ball thatdoesn't bounce because it'll.
I'm painting a futsal court.I'm not. But we're gonna have an
artist, hopefully a localartist come in and do it. I don't
know anything about football,but it's gonna look real pretty when
we're done.
You're going to facilitate?
I'm going to facilitate. I'mgoing to write the checks. We're
also. We're also doing areally cool. You know, when you go
somewhere public, you noticeif it's, you know, empty or, you
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know, it could. Or maybe youdon't, you know. We're going to be
working with the courthouse todo. To highlight local art, local
photography, specifically withiconic Wichita county locations.
Oh, wow.
We're going to be working withmsu. We're going to open this to
the community. I'm so excited.
And there's some neat place.There's some really neat places in
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this area.
I have an idea and I thinkwe've talked about this. What about
the. Is it the. The foundryand the. The towers right there on
the freeway, Atterbury? Isthere. Is there anything we could
do so much.
Tell them to call me and let's go.
Well, that's what we've talkedabout before, and I think we talked
(26:36):
about when Tim was. Tim Shortwas on for years I've said it'd be
nice for us to. And I, Ifigured you could use like 4a or
4b, whichever the money is,that you could use that to go to
the foundry and say, yeah, B.Okay. Yep. I'm not real smart. I
just know, I know the names.So. But you go into the founder and
say, can we paint your roof? Imean, not going to cost you a penny.
(26:59):
We'll paint your roof. Welcometo Wichita Falls or something. Because
when you go over that thing,it is, it's. And I hate to say it's
an eyesore, but it's theirbusiness. I mean, I don't blame them.
They're.
They're in business to makemoney there.
That's where it's not apriority for them.
Well, not just that. Thatplace has been there a long time.
Yes.
You know, and it's. Yeah, itcosts money to do things. So if it's
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good for the city, could weuse some money and do something like
that?
Absolutely. Yeah. And youknow, it is, it is. I think the funding
part is the part that peopledon't necessarily focus on. So thank
you for, you know, thinkingwhere can we use those funds?
Right.
We've looked at doing similarprojects and it's, we're talking
300, $400,000.
Right. It's. It's a long termproject, but big.
(27:44):
Call for, you know.
Well, and it's not, it's notjust doing the project right. Then
there's also maintaining,managing it.
Right.
You know, you paint somethinglike that, it's not a set.
But y'all don't worry aboutthat. Let me worry about that. Let's
get something going.
On.
Yeah, I think that would bereally cool if we could do something
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that made that look reallynice. Both the foundry and the, the
tower, the grain elevators toget. Because there's art already
inside.
Right.
I mean, there's a ton of.
Not in the grain elevators,but in the building.
Oh, is it in the building? Okay.
It's two different things, right?
Yeah. Because obviously youcan't get up in there.
Yeah, we're open. You know, I,I've, I've always talked about interest
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entrances to our city and howI'd love to beautify them. And I
think we are, you know, apiece at a time. You know, it's,
it's. You don't eat enough.
Johnny Cash doll.
One sitting, one piece at a time.
Let's, let's, let's get these,let's keep going, keep the momentum.
And yeah, these projects arenot impossible. And we do. To get
back to our point earlier, wedeserve it as a community. We deserve
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to have nice things. And I'mready to help make that happen.
I've served on the committeefor a little event called the Cowboy
True Art Exhibit for. Well,since its inception. And you know,
one of the things that we hadsought to do with that was to exhibit
and showcase and enhance thecowboy cultural influence in this
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area. And there's a lot ofthat. There's an awful lot of that.
There's an awful lot ofhistory here. Period.
Yes.
I mean, aeronautical history,you know, MSU history, oil and gas
history, cowboy history,ranching history. You know, let's
tell all those stories. That'sall I've ever really been good at
is telling stories. And now Iget to do that with art.
(29:32):
And I think what you can do isyou can take. You can take all those
stories and all the thingsthat have happened and are happening
and you could turn this area.Because I keep having these conversations
with people about what do wedo here? What do we do with wichita
Falls? We're 2 1/2 hours fromDallas. We're about 2 1/2 hours or
so from Oklahoma City. We'rekind of in the middle. Well, go ahead.
(29:57):
No, I don't have the hour and45 minute Sorala trip. No, no, he
can afford the ticket. I can'tanyway. 8, $900 speeding ticket.
But anyway, what can we do tobetter market ourselves? And we could
take all these things andcreate kind of arts and cultural
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center, a hub for this region,I think right here in Wichita.
And I think, I think you guyshave done that to some degree.
Yeah.
I mean, there is a lot moreemphasis on arts.
Yeah.
And there has been in the lastdecade than there was before that.
So congratulations on you. Andeverybody is part of the organization
that is helping.
And I'm not saying you haven'tdone that and you know, arts council
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and all others haven't donethat, but there's obviously there's
a lot more room to grow.
There is. And I think that. Ithink the other side of that is we've
got more organizationalcooperation. We are all working together
to support one another. We'redone with this. Like my little silo.
Your little silo. To get onthe phone and. And complain to Jennica
at Riverbend as soon as I getin the car about, you know, some
(31:02):
dumb thing that's affecting myjob today. But I know I can call
her.
Yeah, right.
I can call Kristen at the ArtsCouncil. I can call Jessica at back
Dorothy. I mean, we've gotthese amazing connections right now
with all these amazingorganizations. There's momentum.
We're all, you know, ready towork together to do great things.
And, And I think if, if, ifour organization can be the one that.
(31:25):
That rallies and bringseveryone together to get it done,
then, you know, that's ourrole. That's what we do.
I think the future's bright.
That's what I want to hear.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah. We doappreciate you being here. We do
look forward to having you back.
Sorry, y'all. It's weird. Thispodcast thing is awesome, but. Wow.
Yeah.
Is it really?
It's stressful.
(31:45):
Well, it's.
It's you doing a great job.
You're doing fine. Well, andthe thing about it is, is you look
at. At the direction media is going.
Oh, sure.
Look how. Well, since you.Since you were in television, look
how that's morphed.
Yeah.
You know, market share.
But the market share for thetraditional TV station has significantly.
Shrunk.
Shrink.
Shrunk.
(32:06):
It's not on the proper. Idon't know, Shrunk shrinkage.
But yeah, I think there was aSeinfeld episode.
I think you're right.
So. And by the way, you can do it.
You can do it Dr. Seuss style.Shrink, shrink, shrunk.
There you go.
There we go.
Okay.
And. And chat. GPT can help mewrite that script and put it up there.
But anyway, so. But I would.I'm gonna offer you this. If you
(32:27):
wanted to do something,whatever it looks like, you're welcome
to use this podcast studio forfree between the three of us, or
we should be able to.
You know, the dean of FainFine Arts School and I have talked
about it, but, you know, itwould just be another thing to do.
Murder podcast. So we don'twant to talk about that. It's fine.
(32:50):
We don't need any more of those.
Murder podcast.
You can talk about that next episode.
Okay.
All right, we'll say. We'llsay that for a little later episode,
though.
Right?
Right?
There you go. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, there's. There's some ofthat, unfortunately. Yeah.
Okay, well, you're welcome to.
I have weird side interests.It's not just art.
Even if. Even if it's notwhether it's art related or not.
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Well, thank you. I appreciateit. This is. This is. This is an
incredible space. And. Andthank you all for doing this.
We look forward to having youback soon. And Arnold Ogden, if people
want to get in touch with youabout your organization, if they
want to volunteer, if theywant to donate, if they want.
To help me on social media. No.
How do you hold you?
Wichita fallsarts.org is andit's just Aogden O G D E N@wichita
(33:35):
fallsarts.org yeah.
No, you went from an easy tospell last name to a tough one.
I know I should just change itto Ann probably, but. No, just I'm
around. I'm here. We'redowntown. We're right across from
the Y. I'm there all the time.Just holler at me. You can get me.
Call one of them. They knowhow to get me.
(33:55):
Yeah, we can get you in touch.
Get you also, I saw you atOffice Depot like two months ago,
sir.
You did?
Don't act like you did. Iprobably didn't have any makeup on.
So you didn't recognize me.
Oh, yes, yes, yes. I remembernow. Yes. Okay.
I haven't seen her. Where isshe? I'm not dead. I'm here. I'm
just busy.
Well, I am, too.
I mean, he's trying to be dramatic.
I know.
Haven't seen you in ages.
(34:16):
I sleep like four hours anight, you know, and usually hanging
upside down.
Do you have a doctor for that? Maybe.
I take pills, but they don'tseem to help, you know, Again, thank
you, Ann, for being here.Appreciate it. We're going to take
a break here, Morgan, to writeTextilema on the way right after
this. Stay tuned. Hey, welcomeback to Get It Right Texoma with
(34:46):
the trio, Mike, Terry andTrey. Glad to have you here. And
we want to thank Ann, ArnoldOgden for taking time with us. Very
good interview, a lot of goodinformation and will be back with
us very soon here on. On the.On the podcast. Moving on here, Kamala
Harris looks altered in aspeech she gave this week. Trey,
what did you witness?
(35:06):
I saw a clip of her giving aspeech. I believe it was at a college.
And see if you can pull it up.And you know how she was really cackling
a lot for a long time.
Yeah.
And then when she made thatpresidential run, that kind of stuff
kind of went away. And youdidn't see the cackle. You saw a
lot more seriousness. I don'tknow if it was because people were
(35:28):
focusing on it. I think itmight have been that one up there.
But she got to where she wasdoing the speech and she. I don't.
I don't want to say she wasdrunk, obviously. I don't know what
she was, but she appeared tobe inebriated or altered in some
way. And this isn't. I'm notbeing funny about this. I'm not being
haha or anything like that. Itwas. It was very strange.
(35:52):
I see. I. I'm not. I don'tknow what to make of her on this
stuff.
Well, she didn't do. She didnot do this when she was on the campaign
trail for president.
Yeah.
The. The laughing at herself,the cackling, the, the weird effect
that was not in place. Soeither something is different because
(36:12):
she was like this before sheran for president.
Yeah.
That short period of time. Shedid not. And now she's back to it.
So I, I don't. I don't know ifshe has a substance problem. I, I
don't know. And I don't wantto throw that. I don't want to say
she does. But what I'm sayingis there was a period of time when
she did not act like she didbefore, and now she's acting again.
(36:32):
Well, I will tell you a reasonwhy. I will tell you what I. Part
of what I think may be goingon with her is also, you lose a race
like that, the wind getssucked out of your sails big time.
Sure. And I think maybe thereality is starting to set in that
her own party doesn't evenwant her.
(36:53):
Oh, yeah, I think that's true.But. But there's something. There's
something going on there.
Yeah.
And I don't know if shelistened to coaching while she was
running for president.
Could be.
Or if she took something whileshe was running for president or
if she didn't take somethingwhile she was running for president.
You know, there's been a lotof speculation over the years that
(37:14):
she's a pretty heavy drinker.A lot of speculation. And I don't
know if maybe the time she wasrunning for president, they kind
of kept that away from her.
Yeah.
I don't. I don't know. I'mnot, I'm. I'm not trying to say anything,
but it's not funny to me.It's. It's sad. There's something
going on there and I don'tknow what it is.
Well, I think the reality.
(37:34):
I don't. I don't like itbecause as a human being, I. She's
a human being and I don't like it.
The reality for her, and Idon't know if she's. Surely this
conversation has already comeup in her inner circle. Whatever
that's made whoever that'smade up of that the Democratic Party
is going to move on from her.
Oh, sure.
She will not be back in 28.
(37:56):
I don't think there's any, Ithink there's almost a zero chance
of that.
They're going to move on and Ithink they're going to have to move
on from not only her, butGavin Newsom and the players that
they've had up to this pointin the last, you know, decade or
12 years or whatever. They'regoing to have to move on from them.
(38:17):
And she's one of them. Theywill definitely be moving on from.
No question about thatBrushing scam. This came out. There
was a post from the WichitaFalls pd.
Yeah, I have an opinion on that.
Yeah, the, the brushings.
What's your opinion?
Well, the QR code. Okay, firstof all, this isn't. Is it possible
that you could lose all yourstuff and, or, you know, get copied?
(38:41):
Yeah, but it's such a, there'smore to the story when you get a
QR code. A QR code isbasically just a URL, a web address.
It takes you to a link.
Right. And, and, and thatwould be no different than if you
click on an email.
Right.
The same thing. It's just thatthe URL, the web address you go to
(39:05):
normally requires anadditional step. When you hear of
these nightmares of somebodyclicking on a link and suddenly something
magically happens and you'velost your data, you've been crypto
jacked or whatever. It's. No,there's more to it than that. You
have to then like normally theclick scams that are happening is
(39:26):
they're trying to get, they'redoing a phishing campaign. P H I
S a P H I S A S H I N G. Butanyway, what that means is, is they're
trying to get information andall it, it's usually like your Microsoft
account or your email passwordor whatever. And then you, once you've
done that, then there's,there's some things that can happen.
(39:46):
But if you, even if you clickon something or scan a QR code, it
is not as dangerous as whateverybody thinks. Now, I don't recommend
it. Right.
Well. And I think what theproblem is, though, people are so
easily sucked in. Curiositykilled the cat. And I think, I think
that's why they're trying to. Right.
But they're.
So in other words, the scam isif you get a package in.
(40:07):
Right.
And there's something in thepackage but you don't know who sent
you the package, there's no.There's no sender information on
it except for a QR code.
You didn't order it.
You didn't order it. Youshowed up, you go, oh, well, the
curiosity a lot of people is.
There'S a QR code.
Click on that. And then it'slike, oh, fill out your name. Fill
out your. You know, where.Where was the package sent to? What
(40:28):
I'm telling you is there's alot of people from a psychological
standpoint who develop thesethings, right? So, yes, maybe just
simply clicking that QR codewon't do anything.
Correct.
But you have to take another step.
What they'll do is they'llprompt you and say, okay, oh, you
got you this. Okay, well,what's your address? What's your
name? What's your phonenumber? You know, so we can get this
information from you.
There's something, there'ssomething's happening a lot on social
(40:50):
media, Facebook in particular.Here you'll see a story, and you
click on the link to thestory, and all of a sudden you get
this big warning on yourphone. Oh, your iPhone's been infected.
And what they're trying to dois, right, they're trying to get
you to click on yet another link.
Hey, hey, hey, watch thelanguage, Terry.
They're trying to get you toclick on another link that will then
(41:11):
take you somewhere else whereyour information could be compromised
or where they're trying to getyou to give up.
What Terry's saying is justbecause you scan something doesn't
necessarily mean you're gonnabe compromised. But the problem is
you got to be careful. If youscan something and they say, hey,
what's your name?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's your information? Dropthe phone, throw it in the trap,
you know, throw it in thelake. Whatever you have to do, stop
it.
Yeah, just.
(41:31):
But I'm just.
Don't like curiosity. Thebiggest thing is don't let curiosity
take over.
Stop what you're doing andlook at the situation, and especially
if it's technology related.Come see us. Right? Or whatever.
Call Terry on his home phone.It doesn't matter for 3:00 in the
morning. Yeah.
But anyway, the point is,1-800-tech-guy, it. It is this story,
(41:52):
this. When you, when peopleare. It's kind of clickbait in a
way, because it's not thecomplete story. It's overhyped. But
it is important.
That's why we're trying to.We're trying to dwell. That's our
job exactly. To take. Takesomething that may be a little overhyped
and dispel it down, but letyou know that there still is some
potential there. But you gotto be careful.
(42:13):
Right.
Yeah.
So don't, don't panic in allcases. If you think, if you've got
some indication, you got anemail, you got whatever, that suddenly
your MasterCard has beencharged or your checking account
or this, you've paid a billand whatever, don't just stop. Because
doing any panic at that momentis not going to do anything.
(42:33):
No.
Right.
Wait a minute. May send youdown the wrong path.
Exactly.
So drop, drop and roll. Imean, stop, drop and talk to somebody
who does something.
Sorry, I went back to mything. It professional. And. And
just to be fair, not gonna.I'm not disparaging your, you know,
your son or your daughterwho's, you know, a teenager supposedly.
(42:56):
No, no, no. Don't. Pleasedon't just go literally get.
Talk to a friend.
Yeah. Because they. They are.Yeah. They're not experienced, by
the way.
I. I don't. I'm just gonnathrow this in. I know it's not local,
but I heard there's gonna be aMr. Gaddy's in town now.
There is.
They opened yesterday.
I think Mr. Gaddy's was myfavorite pizza for so many years.
Yeah, they're in the wild.
Luigi's is my favorite pizzaand probably still will be. But as
(43:19):
far as the pizza chains go,Mr. Gaddy's was my favorite pizza.
I'd be interested.
They're inside the Walmart onLarch Road. You know, some old things
are coming back. We got Mr.Gaddy's back. Bell's department store
is coming back. They're movinginto the old dirt cheap location,
what used to be Hastings, youknow, and I guess Kmart before that.
Yeah, exactly.
Way back in the day. They'removing into that building on Southwest
(43:40):
Parkway. And so some thingsare. And that we could just get,
you know, Shaky's Pizza backand, you know, Schlitz beer and I
don't know what else. Whatelse can we get back? What's. What's
out there that could come back?
Chick fil A's. I know it'sspecific to Chick fil A, but they're.
Carrot salad. They had.
Oh, that's. That's coming back.
(44:01):
No, it's not. It needs to.
Oh. Oh.
I would. I would definitelynot support carrot salad of anybody.
It was good, though. Oh, wow.
And it's funny because peoplealways told me because I have really
good eyesight. I know. I'mwearing glasses now. Yeah, I lost
it over. But for years Ialways had really good eyesight and
still do dark and longdistance and stuff. And people go,
(44:23):
you must eat a lot of carrots.Like, nope, don't like them. No,
we're done.
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down the road next time. It.
You make this rather snappy,won't you?
I have some very heavythinking to do before 10:00.
Hey, welcome to anotherepisode of Get It Right Texoma with
trio Mike Hendren, TerryMcAdams, Trey Sralla. Very happy
to have you with us. We gettogether to entertain, inform and
hopefully enlighten you asoften as possible. We appreciate
you being here. Of course,you're probably watching this after
(00:22):
the holidays are over with, right?
So I hope you had a good holiday.
Hope everybody up. Good Christmas.
When will this hit approximately?
Oh, probably around NewYear's, I'm thinking.
So might be a New Year Year's surprise.
It could, this could be, thiscould be the New Year's surprise
for you.
By the way, we do have anempty seat, which means we do have
a guest coming in.
We do.
And Arnold Ogden.
Yes.
(00:42):
Of famous Wichita.
Yes.
Local, Local celebrity.
Yeah, she. Well, she was onthe, the television.
Absolutely.
Yes, yes, I saw that on the tv.
Now she's the executivedirector of the Arts Alliance Council,
I believe.
Yeah, she'll talk about that.
Okay, well, maybe she'll tellus about the TV when she was on there.
(01:04):
The television.
Be sure to check out ourwebsite. Get it right, texoma.com
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if you would. And there's nota lot happening around the area to
talk about. Yeah, everything'skind of beginning of a new year coming
(01:24):
up and just not a lothappening right now. So we're going
to jump right into our localrestaurant focus here.
And this is a Terry Pick right here.
This is Terry's Pick.
It's not really local local,but it kind of is. And we can kind
of explain.
So Barbecue Dickies Barbecueopened up a number of years ago and
I can't remember exactly whatyear it was, but basically I've actually
(01:45):
been helping every singleowner since they opened.
Barbecue is a national chainor regional, at least Texas.
Yeah, it's based, I think in Dallas.
I think it's based in Dallas. Yeah.
And anyway, it's a, a, it's afranchise. And so this local was
opened a number of years agoand it's had a few owners over the
(02:08):
years. And then, andunfortunately one of the owners got
a little challenged and it wassold off to someone. And who then?
I mean, I think it's hadthree, four owners. Four or five
owners since then. But here'sthe thing. Here's the great Thing
Again, I've helped every oneof those because I really, really,
really like the, the barbecuethat they have. And so Ed Aguilar.
(02:34):
Aguilar, huh? Yeah. He owns itcurrently and he's from Dallas, but
he moved his family up hereand bought this franchise and he
has turned around. He's gonefrom concrete to barbecue to barbecue,
and he is doing a phenomenaljob. He has really brought up the
(02:55):
standards there, worked withthe franchisee, the company, and
has really learned a lot. I'mjust impressed, I have to say. They
are my favorite barbecue inthis town.
Okay.
I like the others. There'ssome pretty good ones. But when,
especially when what was theone on that had the stage and everything?
(03:19):
Anyway, I forget the name ofit. Anyway, they're gone. They had
really good barbecue, too.
But anyway, the Rafter J. NotRaptor J, the one that was. I know
what you're talking about. Yeah.
It was a craft barbecue place.Yes. So, but anyway, I, I have found
as. Especially if it's donecorrectly, they do it. They do a
phenomenal job, but they haveall kinds of things. But it is a
(03:41):
locally owned, in terms ofthe, the franchise. Right. So, so
some of that money does stay here.
So, so it's not a local, it'snot a locally owned and operated
business, but it's a locallyowned and operated franchise. So,
yes, some of the profitsobviously do go to the national,
but a lot.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So.
And I will say they employpeople from Wichita Falls or local
(04:02):
people.
I will say of the chainbarbecue places that I've eaten,
Dickies has been my favorite.
Right.
So far.
And, but it's also havingworked with all the different owners
over the years, I, I, I cantell you that it really does make
a difference on who runs thatplace. It is a absolute. He, if you
follow there now, he's therebecause there's an art to cooking,
(04:23):
especially brisket.
I was going to say. Ye.Especially brisket. Even smoked meats.
Yes.
Even if they have that, thatformula, if you will. Still, it is.
He's learned some things.
Time and temperature means alot when it comes to that sort of
stuff.
So I think that you reallyought to give it a shot, especially
if you've had a bad experiencewith them. Because that's true. Before
he took over, there had beensome challenges and he really, really
(04:46):
wants, I mean, he is dedicatedto this business. I mean, just, it's,
it's amazing.
Dicky's Barbecue, they're onthe, they're on.
Lawrence Road, right here,next between what's the Bo Cavenders
and the haircut in the haircutplace. Yes, they're.
They're right there. Like inthat little strip mall.
Yes, yes. And they, like Isaid, they do a great job. And just,
just Terry says check themout. Check it out.
(05:09):
Yeah, do that.
So bakers are awesome too. But anyway.
Oh, well, we do have aninterview coming up here and Arnold
Ogden is going to join us nexthere on Get It Right Texoma. And
she, she'd been a guest on. Onmy radio show and I haven't talked
to her in quite a while.
Yeah, you know, catch up, seehow things are.
I haven't seen her in a whileuntil she just walked in a moment
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ago. Yes, she's waiting in thewings over here. Yes, we'll take
her in the green room. She'sin the green. She's in the green
room putting on the purple. Sowe'll be. We'll be back right after
this. Stay tuned. Short breakhere. More Get It Right Textilema
on the way. And welcome backto Get a Ride Textilema with the
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trio. And our very specialguest, as promised, is Ann Arnold
Ogden. And welcome.
Thank you. I'm so excited tobe here.
It's been a day or two sincewe've seen.
You know that. That radioalways made me so nervous. I feel
like you both knew this. Thatradio always made me so, so nervous.
Now we're combining radio with tv.
Yeah.
Which I don't know how I feel.This is my first like this podcast.
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But here's the thing, though.You were on TV for so long and so
natural at it.
Right.
That.
Yeah.
I can't imagine.
So natural at reading aprompter. Yeah.
I know there were times thatyou didn't because I saw you one
time.
That's true.
Reporting live. I was on theradio. Way to the radio station one
when you probably don'tremember this out at the.
There was snow and they put mein the intersection.
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There was a snow and. And Ibrought by and I didn't realize she
was on the air live. I thoughtshe was just standing there waiting
for her thing. I swung by, Isaid, and what.
Are you doing out in the rain?
She said, I'm out here tracerRaleigh in the snow or something
like that. Live on TV.
That's true.
Yeah. Do you have a TV voice,like a lot of 100? Okay. I'd like
to hear it.
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Yeah. Well, it's on now.
Oh.
Oh, well, you don't.
What you. What you hear allthe time is the TV voice. I paid
a lot of money to not talklike I'm from southeast Texas.
So you're always so I am.
Well, not always. There aretimes. So I have a 5 year old now
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and I can hear the southeastTexas in him a little bit.
Yeah.
So he said one day, mommy,daddy put a fire in the fireplace.
I just had to laugh. And I waslike, that's me.
Sorry.
Firefighters.
Well, that's what I was sayingabout the tv. We got a TV star.
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I too spent a lot of money.Not to sound like a bale of hay,
but occasionally I do well.
And it's slipped a lot in thelast 10 or so years. So I do anytime
I would talk to a localsheriff, so Kenny Lemons, for example,
when he was sheriff in Claycounty, anytime I called him, that
southeast Texas slipped back in.
(08:06):
Yeah.
And everyone in the newsroomwould like, look and be like, who
was he talking to? And I waslike, oh, he got Ann, he got Anna.
Get somebody else. Yes.
I never spent any money and Istill sound like a bell. Hey, I'm
one of those people that Isound like I'm talking now. I feel
like I'm sounding normal, butwhen I listen to myself recorded,
(08:29):
I feel like I'm trying to.
Everybody, everybody come ondown here to.
The goats gruin or something.
Everybody thinks they soundterrible. That's totally normal.
Oh, yeah, this TV station.When Skip was there, I was. So we
had Skip on.
How's he doing? He doesn'tcall, he doesn't write, but.
He does his little weatherreports occasionally.
Right.
And I think that's awesome.
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Skip was on a few weeks, a fewmonths ago.
It feels like everybody wasthere when Skip was there because
it feels like.
He was there forever there fora long time.
A very long time.
All right, so we got the passout of the way. So currently, tell
everybody what you. What isyour current position in Wichita
Falls?
What are you doing these daysbesides building fires in the fireplace,
raising children?
I am the executive director ofthe Witch Falls alliance for Arts
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and Culture. We work with artsorganizations like the Kemp center,
which is the arts council, andthe Art association, which is gallery.
And we work with. We've gotabout 13 or 14 actually here in Wichita
Falls. And so we serve as agrant making arm for the city of
Wichita Falls. So they havemoney that they have to use not on
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potholes. You know, the hoteloccupied occupancy tax can only be
used for tourism, marketing,promotion of the arts, historic restoration,
those kind of things. So thecity gives us a Pot of that money.
And we in turn do grants fororganizations so that they can continue
being something the city canmarket and attract tourists. We do
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public art projects. We justwrapped up a huge project in October.
And thank you, Trey, forcoming. That was really nice of you
to come here.
Troy Ferris is actually a dearfriend of mine. Yeah, Troy and I
are very close friends.
And so you weren't there forme is what you're saying.
Yeah, I came there. Just seeyou. Yeah, yeah. The Charlie. Charlie
Ferris exhibit. And if youhaven't seen it, it is phenomenal.
Charlie Ferris was a veryhistoric person in this. In Wichita
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Falls. She was the first blackfemale lawyer in the state of Texas
and was a prominent figure.
Put the emphasis on that.Wrong. In the state of Texas. The
entire.
Absolutely.
Date of Texas. She was thefirst black woman licensed.
To be a lawyer, which is.
She's from here and she's.
Yeah, she grew up here andcame back here, practiced law here.
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And her. And her son is aprominent educator here in Wichita
Falls. Yeah, Troy Ferris, he'sbeen a lot of different. He's been
a teacher and all that.Principal. And he's currently serving
as associate principal ofLegacy High School.
Yes.
So. And he's a doctor. Pha. Infact, I told him one time, I said,
troy, I said, I would hate tohave to be in your family. He said,
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what do you mean? I said Iwould be the dummy in your family.
I said, all your. Everybody inyour family has doctors and this
and that. Like, oh, Trey, youjust got a bachelor's degree. I'm
the dummy. But anyhow, CharlieFerris was a phenomenal lady, and
her mother was a. RobertaFerris was a phenomenal lady. And
just Grandma Ferris used tocall her Grandma Ferris. But it's.
So that. That whole thing thaty'all put together just kind of explain
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a little bit the magnitude ofwhat that took to put that together.
What did you say the ratingwas on this show?
PG 13.
Oh, no, no.
NC 17, maybe.
No way.
No, it's not that bad.
You know, we, we, we. Thecounty actually came to us about
this project in 2000 when wewere all in the thick of zoom meeting.
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And so it really, it startedthen. And we have been raising money
for all that time. We willstill take money for this project
if you'd like to give it tous. And, and working with a sculptor,
you know, price of bronze hasbeen like this. It's, it's. It's
been very big learningexperience for me to do something.
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It's. It's a nine foot tallsculpture of Ms. Ferris on the courthouse
lawn right across from her oldoffice. And it's. You know, she worked
at the courthouse in a timewhere she couldn't use the same water
fountain as other people thatshe worked with her colleagues. The
same restroom or her restroomwas on a different floor from everyone
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else. So to look at the thingsthat she achieved and then the things
she put back into thiscommunity. You know, she worked with
so many organizations. I'mpartial to the arts one. She was
on the symphony board whenthey brought in Duke Ellington. There
are children's advocacy groupsand so many people that have benefited
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from who she is.
She was also on the MSU Boardof Regents.
Yeah, Board of Regents. Ofcourse. Yeah. So it was, it was really
an honor to. To recognizesomeone who so deserved it and would
have hated the whole pomp, allof it. And I fully acknowledge that.
And I. I do feel bad aboutthat. But she deserves everything
this community's done and more.
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So if you get a chance, gocheck it out. It's. It's like you
said, it's on the. It's acrossthe courthouse from the veterans.
Memorial on the courthouse line.
Right. So it's the front doorof the courthouse that nobody uses.
Yeah, the front. The frontdoor. Everybody uses the side door
now, but the front door isactually what was used for many,
many years.
And the county actually, fortheir partnership and support of
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this project, actually won amajor statewide award this summer
for supporting it throughTexans for the Arts. And, you know,
it is incredible, thiscommunity. There's something so special.
I mean, there really is aboutWichita Falls and North Texas. You
get support in surprisingplaces for projects that are also
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surprising. And it's just.It's really lovely.
Well, you know, that brings meto a topic we all talk a lot about.
There's a lot of firsts thathave happened here with Ms. Farrows,
for example. There's a lot ofbig things that have come out of
our community over the years,and there's a lot of big things that
happen here, but we do such apoor job. And I put the blame on
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city government. I put theblame on citizens. I put the blame
on everybody. We do such apoor job of marketing ourselves.
We do such a poor job ofpromoting ourselves. Anytime I hear
someone say Wichita Falls,where is that? I'm like, well, okay,
we still suck at marketingourselves. And one of my big things
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is speaking of art, becauseyou got a lot of art on that campus,
the Midwestern StateUniversity campus, you know, is jam
packed with artwork, but wedo. Somebody could drive through
this city and never know MSUis there. They can drive completely
through town and never knowthat the college exists here. What
can an organization like yoursdo to kind of. Or what are you guys
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doing to kind of help furtherthe marketing of the city or something
like Midwestern? I mean, isthere any kind of an alliance there
that has developed yet or isin the works?
You know, it's, it's, it'sinteresting. And you guys know my
past job was to market the city.
Yes.
Don't do that anymore. Right.You know, I think that for whatever
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reason there's, there's thisidea that we don't. Maybe it's, you
know, inside us, I don't know.But that in Wichita Falls we don't
deserve nice things. Andthey're already here.
Yeah.
But for whatever reason, it's,it's. We don't feel like all the
wonderful things we have, likeeither we don't deserve them or we
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shouldn't. You know, we, we'rejust. I don't, I don't know what
it is. I'm not a psychologistand so Wisconsin.
Suffers from low self esteem.
I think so too.
Yeah. Yeah, I think you'reright. Well, someone told me here
recently, told me, said weseem to be afraid of inviting anyone
from the outside in.
Well, now I'm from outside andI feel like I. I mean, I've been
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here for years. I don't know.I don't know. I think my role now
is to continue making this abeautiful place to live, to celebrate
the creativity that's here andto showcase that more broadly. And
I am working to do that. Youknow, we are actively recruiting
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for Texans for the Arts tobring their conference here to Wichita
Falls so they can see. Yeah,we've got sculpture and murals and
artist galore. This is awildly creative town, whether you
think it is or not.
Right.
And we are wildly creativepeople. And you have to be to live
someplace as hot as WichitaFalls is.
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Hot and cold and cold andwindy, isn't it?
On that note though, about ourself esteem as a. Collectively as
a city. It's sad when I, tome, I'm sad when I'm reading on a
lot of the social media poststhat this town. La la la la la. That
you fill in the blank and it'sa negative thing. They, you know,
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drivers, every. I meanthere's, it's just, it's as if we
are unique in, in some wayswe, we absolutely are unique. Let's
celebrate those things. Butwe're not. They make it sound like
we're the worst drivers, we'rethe worst this. Well, I guess there
was something about that.There was some objective information,
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but it's just not about that.We don't have this and we don't have
that. The more we speaknegatively, that's what happens.
You know what I mean?
I'm off of social media. Yeah.I don't focus on those things fully.
I don't read those thingsunless I stumble across them. Now,
do I miss a lot of things?Sure, I do. But I'm okay with it.
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You know, I know what myinterests are. I know. I know what
is happening in the artscommunity, what's happening across
the city for the things I'minterested in. I know when there's,
like, Mother's Day outhappening at the Y. Thank you very
much. On my way, dropping himnow. You know, I'm in my own insular
little bubble, and I've been alot happier not complaining to everybody
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and their mom about what makesme angry. My husband gets all of
it.
I think, you know, a lot ofthose people that you're talking
about, I think they're few innumber. I don't think there's. There's
a lot of them. But. But socialmedia has given them a bullhorn to
shout to the world about howaggravated they are. And my message
to those people is, if youhate it that much, I will be glad
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to contribute the first $100to your flight anywhere on the globe
you want to go or even.
Even more. Like what. What areyou doing to make it better?
Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
If you're creative, are youmaking art and putting it somewhere?
Are you. Are you. Do you needto get lo. Can you find a group to
feel like this is a place thatmakes the rest of us very happy?
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What do you need that we canfill as citizens?
You mentioned being unpluggedfrom social media. Yeah. Among the
many things I do now,everything I'm doing requires me
to be connected to people insome way. And social media. I'm in
the real estate business. Wecan't do that job now without technology.
(19:24):
Right.
There's absolutely. There is.It would be absolutely impossible
to do our job withouttechnology and because we're very
dependent on it. And socialmedia is where we meet a lot of our
customers.
Absolutely. And I'm notsaying, you know, that's. My organization
is on social media. It has tobe there. That is how we communicate.
What we're doing with people.
But you're talking about onyour personal side. I'm the same
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way. My business is on socialmedia too, but I don't sit around
on Facebook. You will neversee me go, right. Well, you know,
mindlessly scrolling across stuff.
I don't care because it is.You can go down a rabbit hole quick
with it, you know, way toofast and so that you have to. But
like with your organization,obviously everything is hyper focused
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on your mission and whatyou're doing, what you're trying
to accomplish. Do you get alot of negativity on your.
Not on. No art. We don'tsocial and if we have, I haven't
heard about it. I'm not onrants and raves, so I don't, I don't
know.
Oh God. That is the most.That's, that's got to be the most
useless social media page ever.
I do, I do feel like if wewere, someone would tell me. But
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I also, you know, I don't wantto waste my time. Our lives are so
short as it is. I don't wantto waste my time and I don't want
to waste other people's timedoing projects that aren't important
in some way meaningful in someway. I'm not going to waste our organization
(20:49):
or funders dollars on projectsthat are just like, oh, I just got
to get money in and out thedoor. It's going to be meaningful,
it's going to be important,it's going to be impactful and hopefully
it's going to get more peopleengaged with arts and culture in
our community.
Well, and I go back to what Iwas saying about marketing our city
and our college and ShepardAir Force Base and all the great
things we've got here. There'sa lot of opportunity, I think, for
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everybody, especially anorganization like yours, to take
a leadership role infurthering educating the world about
who we are, where we are andwhat we offer.
Absolutely.
I think there's a leadershipopportunity there for everybody.
And of course, I think thechamber has done a really good job
at that under Ron's leadershipthat's going on.
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The idea we talked abouttechnology and the arts. That is
a thing of combining the two.And I mean, just think about it.
Just even video, the actual,you know, producing videos of various
sorts that promote things orjust a documentary or whatever.
Well, even further than that,we're hoping to do some workshops
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on technology, AI and the artsand what the future holds ahead for
that. Because people cancreate art with AI, but what are
the copyright, you know,implications or trademarking?
And I would love to beinvolved in that.
I would love to.
I have put on some. I'm not anartist by any means.
It says that I'm gonna find itthough, so.
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But, but I've done apresentation to various organizations
in town on AI, Worked with theSmall Business Development center
and I. The ethics behind.
Yeah, absolutely. That's gonnabe key as we move ahead. You know,
what, what are thoseimplications? And if I create this
song using social or using AI,you know, who owns the song technically,
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how much do I earn? Am Ilicensing this from the AI company?
So there's some really, it'sinteresting issues.
And things to address.
Looking at 2025 because thiswill come out basically around, right
around New Year's. So looking.
Happy New Year. Somebody drinka big old bottle of champagne for
me.
There you go.
New Year's looks so different.As a mom, just saying.
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I, I was a mom, I don't know.But as a parent.
Okay, sorry, go ahead. In 2025.
So in what is coming up,what's on the radar? What can people
look forward to the organization?
Well, we are going to be doinga lot more advocacy work. We are
planning to take a group ofarts leaders down to Austin to talk
to our legislators down thereabout what we do here and why it
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matters. You know, the artsisn't just about making beautiful
things and the fun, touchyfeely parts of it. There's also an
economic component to it. In2023, the arts had $19.1 million
economic impact. That's a nonprofit arts. We're not talking about
architects and you guys doingthese creative jobs. That's all part
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of the arts. So we're going tobe doing a lot of advocacy work.
We're going to be teachingarts organizations how to get those,
those government contracts andthose, those different, you know,
because we get money from theNational Endowment for the Arts,
which is federal government,the state government and local government.
And you know, that's there isa place for the arts in community
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development. So we're going tobe talking a lot about that. We have
got several projects lined upin Burke Burnett. I'm still waiting
for funding news on those. SoI don't want to go too far down that,
but invite me back becausethey're going to be fun.
Okay.
I think it's about gettingpeople out and active making art
where they are not aware thatthey either enjoy it or think they're
(24:28):
creative or think they're anartist. But they're. Part of us wants
to be doing something with ourhands. I think that's something that
is innate with all of us,whether it's working or something
else. But we have big thingsahead. All that to say, and I'm so
excited for the city andwhat's ahead.
Yeah, well, a lot ofpossibilities. I've been saying for
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a long time.
That's gonna be huge. They'vegot a new futsal court out at Bridwell
Parks.
All soccer, which is really aform of soccer.
I don't know anything aboutsoccer, and I'm sorry, everyone,
but I am painting. I'm notpainting now.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Futsal?
Yes. It's basically you take abasketball court generally, and it's
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a ball that doesn't bouncevery well, but you. It's this. But
it's soccer, essentially, andyou have goals and you. And you just
have a touchline. We play itat the ymca. I haven't played in
a while. I need to it back out there.
But yeah, usually you and you.And you don't use 11.
On 11, right. 5, 6, whatever.
It's almost like indoor soccer.
It's indoor soccer at a small scale.
Yeah, yeah.
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And with a. With a ball thatdoesn't bounce because it'll.
I'm painting a futsal court.I'm not. But we're gonna have an
artist, hopefully a localartist come in and do it. I don't
know anything about football,but it's gonna look real pretty when
we're done.
You're going to facilitate?
I'm going to facilitate. I'mgoing to write the checks. We're
also. We're also doing areally cool. You know, when you go
somewhere public, you noticeif it's, you know, empty or, you
(25:53):
know, it could. Or maybe youdon't, you know. We're going to be
working with the courthouse todo. To highlight local art, local
photography, specifically withiconic Wichita county locations.
Oh, wow.
We're going to be working withmsu. We're going to open this to
the community. I'm so excited.
And there's some neat place.There's some really neat places in
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this area.
I have an idea and I thinkwe've talked about this. What about
the. Is it the. The foundryand the. The towers right there on
the freeway, Atterbury? Isthere. Is there anything we could
do so much.
Tell them to call me and let's go.
Well, that's what we've talkedabout before, and I think we talked
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about when Tim was. Tim Shortwas on for years I've said it'd be
nice for us to. And I, Ifigured you could use like 4a or
4b, whichever the money is,that you could use that to go to
the foundry and say, yeah, B.Okay. Yep. I'm not real smart. I
just know, I know the names.So. But you go into the founder and
say, can we paint your roof? Imean, not going to cost you a penny.
(26:59):
We'll paint your roof. Welcometo Wichita Falls or something. Because
when you go over that thing,it is, it's. And I hate to say it's
an eyesore, but it's theirbusiness. I mean, I don't blame them.
They're.
They're in business to makemoney there.
That's where it's not apriority for them.
Well, not just that. Thatplace has been there a long time.
Yes.
You know, and it's. Yeah, itcosts money to do things. So if it's
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good for the city, could weuse some money and do something like
that?
Absolutely. Yeah. And youknow, it is, it is. I think the funding
part is the part that peopledon't necessarily focus on. So thank
you for, you know, thinkingwhere can we use those funds?
Right.
We've looked at doing similarprojects and it's, we're talking
300, $400,000.
Right. It's. It's a long termproject, but big.
(27:44):
Call for, you know.
Well, and it's not, it's notjust doing the project right. Then
there's also maintaining,managing it.
Right.
You know, you paint somethinglike that, it's not a set.
But y'all don't worry aboutthat. Let me worry about that. Let's
get something going.
On.
Yeah, I think that would bereally cool if we could do something
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that made that look reallynice. Both the foundry and the, the
tower, the grain elevators toget. Because there's art already
inside.
Right.
I mean, there's a ton of.
Not in the grain elevators,but in the building.
Oh, is it in the building? Okay.
It's two different things, right?
Yeah. Because obviously youcan't get up in there.
Yeah, we're open. You know, I,I've, I've always talked about interest
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entrances to our city and howI'd love to beautify them. And I
think we are, you know, apiece at a time. You know, it's,
it's. You don't eat enough.
Johnny Cash doll.
One sitting, one piece at a time.
Let's, let's, let's get these,let's keep going, keep the momentum.
And yeah, these projects arenot impossible. And we do. To get
back to our point earlier, wedeserve it as a community. We deserve
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to have nice things. And I'mready to help make that happen.
I've served on the committeefor a little event called the Cowboy
True Art Exhibit for. Well,since its inception. And you know,
one of the things that we hadsought to do with that was to exhibit
and showcase and enhance thecowboy cultural influence in this
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area. And there's a lot ofthat. There's an awful lot of that.
There's an awful lot ofhistory here. Period.
Yes.
I mean, aeronautical history,you know, MSU history, oil and gas
history, cowboy history,ranching history. You know, let's
tell all those stories. That'sall I've ever really been good at
is telling stories. And now Iget to do that with art.
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And I think what you can do isyou can take. You can take all those
stories and all the thingsthat have happened and are happening
and you could turn this area.Because I keep having these conversations
with people about what do wedo here? What do we do with wichita
Falls? We're 2 1/2 hours fromDallas. We're about 2 1/2 hours or
so from Oklahoma City. We'rekind of in the middle. Well, go ahead.
(29:57):
No, I don't have the hour and45 minute Sorala trip. No, no, he
can afford the ticket. I can'tanyway. 8, $900 speeding ticket.
But anyway, what can we do tobetter market ourselves? And we could
take all these things andcreate kind of arts and cultural
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center, a hub for this region,I think right here in Wichita.
And I think, I think you guyshave done that to some degree.
Yeah.
I mean, there is a lot moreemphasis on arts.
Yeah.
And there has been in the lastdecade than there was before that.
So congratulations on you. Andeverybody is part of the organization
that is helping.
And I'm not saying you haven'tdone that and you know, arts council
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and all others haven't donethat, but there's obviously there's
a lot more room to grow.
There is. And I think that. Ithink the other side of that is we've
got more organizationalcooperation. We are all working together
to support one another. We'redone with this. Like my little silo.
Your little silo. To get onthe phone and. And complain to Jennica
at Riverbend as soon as I getin the car about, you know, some
(31:02):
dumb thing that's affecting myjob today. But I know I can call
her.
Yeah, right.
I can call Kristen at the ArtsCouncil. I can call Jessica at back
Dorothy. I mean, we've gotthese amazing connections right now
with all these amazingorganizations. There's momentum.
We're all, you know, ready towork together to do great things.
And, And I think if, if, ifour organization can be the one that.
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That rallies and bringseveryone together to get it done,
then, you know, that's ourrole. That's what we do.
I think the future's bright.
That's what I want to hear.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah. We doappreciate you being here. We do
look forward to having you back.
Sorry, y'all. It's weird. Thispodcast thing is awesome, but. Wow.
Yeah.
Is it really?
It's stressful.
(31:45):
Well, it's.
It's you doing a great job.
You're doing fine. Well, andthe thing about it is, is you look
at. At the direction media is going.
Oh, sure.
Look how. Well, since you.Since you were in television, look
how that's morphed.
Yeah.
You know, market share.
But the market share for thetraditional TV station has significantly.
Shrunk.
Shrink.
Shrunk.
(32:06):
It's not on the proper. Idon't know, Shrunk shrinkage.
But yeah, I think there was aSeinfeld episode.
I think you're right.
So. And by the way, you can do it.
You can do it Dr. Seuss style.Shrink, shrink, shrunk.
There you go.
There we go.
Okay.
And. And chat. GPT can help mewrite that script and put it up there.
But anyway, so. But I would.I'm gonna offer you this. If you
(32:27):
wanted to do something,whatever it looks like, you're welcome
to use this podcast studio forfree between the three of us, or
we should be able to.
You know, the dean of FainFine Arts School and I have talked
about it, but, you know, itwould just be another thing to do.
Murder podcast. So we don'twant to talk about that. It's fine.
(32:50):
We don't need any more of those.
Murder podcast.
You can talk about that next episode.
Okay.
All right, we'll say. We'llsay that for a little later episode,
though.
Right?
Right?
There you go. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, there's. There's some ofthat, unfortunately. Yeah.
Okay, well, you're welcome to.
I have weird side interests.It's not just art.
Even if. Even if it's notwhether it's art related or not.
(33:12):
Well, thank you. I appreciateit. This is. This is. This is an
incredible space. And. Andthank you all for doing this.
We look forward to having youback soon. And Arnold Ogden, if people
want to get in touch with youabout your organization, if they
want to volunteer, if theywant to donate, if they want.
To help me on social media. No.
How do you hold you?
Wichita fallsarts.org is andit's just Aogden O G D E N@wichita
(33:35):
fallsarts.org yeah.
No, you went from an easy tospell last name to a tough one.
I know I should just change itto Ann probably, but. No, just I'm
around. I'm here. We'redowntown. We're right across from
the Y. I'm there all the time.Just holler at me. You can get me.
Call one of them. They knowhow to get me.
(33:55):
Yeah, we can get you in touch.
Get you also, I saw you atOffice Depot like two months ago,
sir.
You did?
Don't act like you did. Iprobably didn't have any makeup on.
So you didn't recognize me.
Oh, yes, yes, yes. I remembernow. Yes. Okay.
I haven't seen her. Where isshe? I'm not dead. I'm here. I'm
just busy.
Well, I am, too.
I mean, he's trying to be dramatic.
I know.
Haven't seen you in ages.
(34:16):
I sleep like four hours anight, you know, and usually hanging
upside down.
Do you have a doctor for that? Maybe.
I take pills, but they don'tseem to help, you know, Again, thank
you, Ann, for being here.Appreciate it. We're going to take
a break here, Morgan, to writeTextilema on the way right after
this. Stay tuned. Hey, welcomeback to Get It Right Texoma with
(34:46):
the trio, Mike, Terry andTrey. Glad to have you here. And
we want to thank Ann, ArnoldOgden for taking time with us. Very
good interview, a lot of goodinformation and will be back with
us very soon here on. On the.On the podcast. Moving on here, Kamala
Harris looks altered in aspeech she gave this week. Trey,
what did you witness?
(35:06):
I saw a clip of her giving aspeech. I believe it was at a college.
And see if you can pull it up.And you know how she was really cackling
a lot for a long time.
Yeah.
And then when she made thatpresidential run, that kind of stuff
kind of went away. And youdidn't see the cackle. You saw a
lot more seriousness. I don'tknow if it was because people were
(35:28):
focusing on it. I think itmight have been that one up there.
But she got to where she wasdoing the speech and she. I don't.
I don't want to say she wasdrunk, obviously. I don't know what
she was, but she appeared tobe inebriated or altered in some
way. And this isn't. I'm notbeing funny about this. I'm not being
haha or anything like that. Itwas. It was very strange.
(35:52):
I see. I. I'm not. I don'tknow what to make of her on this
stuff.
Well, she didn't do. She didnot do this when she was on the campaign
trail for president.
Yeah.
The. The laughing at herself,the cackling, the, the weird effect
that was not in place. Soeither something is different because
(36:12):
she was like this before sheran for president.
Yeah.
That short period of time. Shedid not. And now she's back to it.
So I, I don't. I don't know ifshe has a substance problem. I, I
don't know. And I don't wantto throw that. I don't want to say
she does. But what I'm sayingis there was a period of time when
she did not act like she didbefore, and now she's acting again.
(36:32):
Well, I will tell you a reasonwhy. I will tell you what I. Part
of what I think may be goingon with her is also, you lose a race
like that, the wind getssucked out of your sails big time.
Sure. And I think maybe thereality is starting to set in that
her own party doesn't evenwant her.
(36:53):
Oh, yeah, I think that's true.But. But there's something. There's
something going on there.
Yeah.
And I don't know if shelistened to coaching while she was
running for president.
Could be.
Or if she took something whileshe was running for president or
if she didn't take somethingwhile she was running for president.
You know, there's been a lotof speculation over the years that
(37:14):
she's a pretty heavy drinker.A lot of speculation. And I don't
know if maybe the time she wasrunning for president, they kind
of kept that away from her.
Yeah.
I don't. I don't know. I'mnot, I'm. I'm not trying to say anything,
but it's not funny to me.It's. It's sad. There's something
going on there and I don'tknow what it is.
Well, I think the reality.
(37:34):
I don't. I don't like itbecause as a human being, I. She's
a human being and I don't like it.
The reality for her, and Idon't know if she's. Surely this
conversation has already comeup in her inner circle. Whatever
that's made whoever that'smade up of that the Democratic Party
is going to move on from her.
Oh, sure.
She will not be back in 28.
(37:56):
I don't think there's any, Ithink there's almost a zero chance
of that.
They're going to move on and Ithink they're going to have to move
on from not only her, butGavin Newsom and the players that
they've had up to this pointin the last, you know, decade or
12 years or whatever. They'regoing to have to move on from them.
(38:17):
And she's one of them. Theywill definitely be moving on from.
No question about thatBrushing scam. This came out. There
was a post from the WichitaFalls pd.
Yeah, I have an opinion on that.
Yeah, the, the brushings.
What's your opinion?
Well, the QR code. Okay, firstof all, this isn't. Is it possible
that you could lose all yourstuff and, or, you know, get copied?
(38:41):
Yeah, but it's such a, there'smore to the story when you get a
QR code. A QR code isbasically just a URL, a web address.
It takes you to a link.
Right. And, and, and thatwould be no different than if you
click on an email.
Right.
The same thing. It's just thatthe URL, the web address you go to
(39:05):
normally requires anadditional step. When you hear of
these nightmares of somebodyclicking on a link and suddenly something
magically happens and you'velost your data, you've been crypto
jacked or whatever. It's. No,there's more to it than that. You
have to then like normally theclick scams that are happening is
(39:26):
they're trying to get, they'redoing a phishing campaign. P H I
S a P H I S A S H I N G. Butanyway, what that means is, is they're
trying to get information andall it, it's usually like your Microsoft
account or your email passwordor whatever. And then you, once you've
done that, then there's,there's some things that can happen.
(39:46):
But if you, even if you clickon something or scan a QR code, it
is not as dangerous as whateverybody thinks. Now, I don't recommend
it. Right.
Well. And I think what theproblem is, though, people are so
easily sucked in. Curiositykilled the cat. And I think, I think
that's why they're trying to. Right.
But they're.
So in other words, the scam isif you get a package in.
(40:07):
Right.
And there's something in thepackage but you don't know who sent
you the package, there's no.There's no sender information on
it except for a QR code.
You didn't order it.
You didn't order it. Youshowed up, you go, oh, well, the
curiosity a lot of people is.
There'S a QR code.
Click on that. And then it'slike, oh, fill out your name. Fill
out your. You know, where.Where was the package sent to? What
(40:28):
I'm telling you is there's alot of people from a psychological
standpoint who develop thesethings, right? So, yes, maybe just
simply clicking that QR codewon't do anything.
Correct.
But you have to take another step.
What they'll do is they'llprompt you and say, okay, oh, you
got you this. Okay, well,what's your address? What's your
name? What's your phonenumber? You know, so we can get this
information from you.
There's something, there'ssomething's happening a lot on social
(40:50):
media, Facebook in particular.Here you'll see a story, and you
click on the link to thestory, and all of a sudden you get
this big warning on yourphone. Oh, your iPhone's been infected.
And what they're trying to dois, right, they're trying to get
you to click on yet another link.
Hey, hey, hey, watch thelanguage, Terry.
They're trying to get you toclick on another link that will then
(41:11):
take you somewhere else whereyour information could be compromised
or where they're trying to getyou to give up.
What Terry's saying is justbecause you scan something doesn't
necessarily mean you're gonnabe compromised. But the problem is
you got to be careful. If youscan something and they say, hey,
what's your name?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's your information? Dropthe phone, throw it in the trap,
you know, throw it in thelake. Whatever you have to do, stop
it.
Yeah, just.
(41:31):
But I'm just.
Don't like curiosity. Thebiggest thing is don't let curiosity
take over.
Stop what you're doing andlook at the situation, and especially
if it's technology related.Come see us. Right? Or whatever.
Call Terry on his home phone.It doesn't matter for 3:00 in the
morning. Yeah.
But anyway, the point is,1-800-tech-guy, it. It is this story,
(41:52):
this. When you, when peopleare. It's kind of clickbait in a
way, because it's not thecomplete story. It's overhyped. But
it is important.
That's why we're trying to.We're trying to dwell. That's our
job exactly. To take. Takesomething that may be a little overhyped
and dispel it down, but letyou know that there still is some
potential there. But you gotto be careful.
(42:13):
Right.
Yeah.
So don't, don't panic in allcases. If you think, if you've got
some indication, you got anemail, you got whatever, that suddenly
your MasterCard has beencharged or your checking account
or this, you've paid a billand whatever, don't just stop. Because
doing any panic at that momentis not going to do anything.
(42:33):
No.
Right.
Wait a minute. May send youdown the wrong path.
Exactly.
So drop, drop and roll. Imean, stop, drop and talk to somebody
who does something.
Sorry, I went back to mything. It professional. And. And
just to be fair, not gonna.I'm not disparaging your, you know,
your son or your daughterwho's, you know, a teenager supposedly.
(42:56):
No, no, no. Don't. Pleasedon't just go literally get.
Talk to a friend.
Yeah. Because they. They are.Yeah. They're not experienced, by
the way.
I. I don't. I'm just gonnathrow this in. I know it's not local,
but I heard there's gonna be aMr. Gaddy's in town now.
There is.
They opened yesterday.
I think Mr. Gaddy's was myfavorite pizza for so many years.
Yeah, they're in the wild.
Luigi's is my favorite pizzaand probably still will be. But as
(43:19):
far as the pizza chains go,Mr. Gaddy's was my favorite pizza.
I'd be interested.
They're inside the Walmart onLarch Road. You know, some old things
are coming back. We got Mr.Gaddy's back. Bell's department store
is coming back. They're movinginto the old dirt cheap location,
what used to be Hastings, youknow, and I guess Kmart before that.
Yeah, exactly.
Way back in the day. They'removing into that building on Southwest
(43:40):
Parkway. And so some thingsare. And that we could just get,
you know, Shaky's Pizza backand, you know, Schlitz beer and I
don't know what else. Whatelse can we get back? What's. What's
out there that could come back?
Chick fil A's. I know it'sspecific to Chick fil A, but they're.
Carrot salad. They had.
Oh, that's. That's coming back.
(44:01):
No, it's not. It needs to.
Oh. Oh.
I would. I would definitelynot support carrot salad of anybody.
It was good, though. Oh, wow.
And it's funny because peoplealways told me because I have really
good eyesight. I know. I'mwearing glasses now. Yeah, I lost
it over. But for years Ialways had really good eyesight and
still do dark and longdistance and stuff. And people go,
(44:23):
you must eat a lot of carrots.Like, nope, don't like them. No,
we're done.
All right, guys, we're done.Thank you so much for being with
us here for this episode ofGet It Right, Texoma. It's brought
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