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You make this rather snappy,won't you?
I have some very heavythinking to do before 10:00.
Hey, welcome to anotherepisode of Get a Right Texoma with
the trio Mike, Terry and Trey.
And Happy New Year.
Yes.
This is really.
It's not our first show of the year.
We had Anne Arnold Ogden onalready, and so she was.
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Well, we actually recorded herinterview in.
24, so this is our first recorded.
This is our first official drop.
Now.
She's dropped now.
Yeah, yeah, I need to.
So, anyway, welcome.
Happy New Year.
Hope you're telling what 2025has got to be a better year.
It's got to be.
Well, I think.
I think all the earmarks are there.
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I hope so.
I hope so.
You know, just.
We don't have this on our listand we'll.
And we can get more into thislater when we get more information.
But in the.
In the days prior to usrecording this episode, there were
two terrorist attacks in this country.
One in New Orleans.
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Guy drove a rented truck intoa crowd of people.
Last I heard that the Deathtoll was 10 or 11.
Is it 15?
15 people dead.
Now, a lot of people hurt.
A lot of people hurt.
And then there was a Teslatruck that was bombed.
A bomb was detonated.
Don't know about a bomb, butsome explosive devices were detonated.
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It wasn't really a.
It blew the truck.
It was a pretty big bomb.
And then there were fire.
There was a lot of fireworksand there was a lot of stuff in it
and some accelerants.
I don't think it worked quitelike the guy thought it would.
No, here's the.
Here's the part about this.
And again, more informationwill come out in the days ahead,
at least at better.
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The two guys that wereinvolved in this, in each attack
apparently both served at Fort Bragg.
Well, they were both, by the way.
Yeah, let's go back to.
Let's clear this up.
These were both Americans, Right.
These were not.
These were not US born.
They were not people who camein through the southern border.
And I'm not saying thatthere's not threats out there.
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I'm just simply saying thesetwo things were not people who snuck
in on the southern border andare from Syria or some other place
like that.
These were American citizensand Americans that.
Served in the military, butthey committed terrorist attacks
here in this country.
The guy in New Orleans had anISIS flag.
Yeah.
On the back of his truck.
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It also turns out, I've heardin the last 24 hours prior to us
doing this episode, that thethe trucks were both rented from
the same company, right?
Yes.
So for the FBI to come out andsay, oh, there's no connection.
Bull crap, there's absolutelya connection.
There.
There is.
They.
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They are connected somehow.
There's some similarities, for sure.
I mean, you got to startchasing all those things and find
out.
I don't, I don't.
I don't believe too much in coincidences.
Y.
Very coincidental.
And I think that they're goingto find out whether they tell us
honestly or not.
Most people probably look atthis and go, yeah, this was a planned
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attack.
This was a coordinated attackon some level.
Now, maybe it was just thesetwo guys.
Maybe there were other people involved.
My spidey senses go off andtell me there's more than two people
involved.
And I tend to agree with that.
But let's look.
We don't want to jump to toomany conclusions and go down some
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bad rabbit trails.
I, I do, I do think there's agood possibility, a very strong possibility
that these are, these, theseare somehow connected.
But to say they were both hadserved at Fort Bragg at some point.
Probably everybody who's beenin the.
Probably half the army peoplewho have served in the army have
been at Fort Bragg at some point.
Sure.
For Bragg's a massive base.
It's not, it is, it's notShepherd Air Force.
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Basically, if they were, youknow, in the same.
If they were in the same unit,squadron or something, that's a,
That's a whole different deal.
So when you're, if you're aninvestigator, one of the things you
do when you're looking at multifaceted.
Multifaceted crime like this,one of the things you do look for
are what are the commonalities?
Well, absolutely, you need todo that.
But what I'm simply saying isyou can't.
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I mean that, to me, that.
That's a very broad one.
I want to look for some more narrow.
And I think they're there.
What I'm saying is I believethey're there, but what I'm saying
is I want to look.
Oh, they were both at Fort Bragg.
Well, so was.
Yeah, millions and millionsand millions of people at one time.
Sure.
So.
So.
And.
But they both were in the military.
Yeah.
Okay.
Once again, there was a.
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There was millions of people,but there you start, start.
You start there.
They were both in military.
Okay.
Then they were both at Fort Bragg.
But now let's start reallyfinding some specifics.
You know, the car rentalthing, that is a.
That's an unusual one.
Now, that.
And it's not a.
Yeah, it's not Hertz or.
No, it's.
It's not.
It's something.
Rent a car.
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It's a.
I don't know.
I don't even know who it was.
I'd have to look and see whoit is if I heard of it.
It's not national or anythinglike that.
The article that I readdescribed the company.
I don't recall the name of itright now, but they described the
company as the Airbnb ofvehicle rentals is what they described
it as.
So it was.
There was no.
It was.
No one I'd ever heard ofbefore Turo, and no one I'd ever
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use.
Car sharing.
Apple called.
Okay, well.
And see, now that's a.
Okay, that's.
That's not.
That's different than.
Yeah, that is different than,like, renting from Herzer national,
then.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's.
If that's an Airbnb, thatsounds like something that you were.
I.
I don't know anything about them.
But somebody has a vehicle andthey put it up for rental.
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For rent.
Rental.
Yeah.
Yeah, I.
I heard of doing that kind ofthing with, like, you know, motorhomes
and travel trailers and things.
Like, there's actually a guyhere from Wichita Falls who went
off to.
I think he went off to Harvardor mit, and he ended up in San Francisco
and started a company at onepoint who was working on something
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like this.
And it was like, people who were.
And I think it was at lax.
You were.
Say you were going to beparked there for a week or two weeks
at LAX while you're out of town.
You could rent your car out.
Okay.
For people to use there at the time.
Is that Dr.
G's?
Yeah.
I was gonna say he's beeninvolved in a lot of different.
Yeah, that family is just.
But I just wanted to mentionthat because it's topical, it's something
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that just happened, andobviously not a great way to start
our new year.
But I do think that the FBI,the authorities, they need to be
more forthcoming withinformation as much as they can.
When they hold backinformation, when they look like
they're trying to keepinformation from the public, then
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you open that door even moreto speculation, and that's the biggest
problem.
Best thing you can do is be transparent.
Exactly.
Because what you do is youcreate a.
You create a void.
That's right.
And then people want people.
We're desperate as humanbeings to know answers.
Sure.
Especially if things that arebaffling us.
It's your human nature.
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It's our human curiosity.
And so we're going to, sowe're going to make shit up.
Yeah, yeah.
If we, if you, if you don'thelp us fill that void with something
that's plausible.
Yeah.
Then as human beings, we'remore likely to speculate.
You got to put, put the factsout there.
We're all big boys and girlsand we can handle it.
Tell us the truth and stoptreating us like mushrooms, you know,
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feeding us crap and keeping us in.
The bottom part of it isthough, let.
But by the same token, I sayon the other side of that is let
the investigation happen.
Well, sure.
Don't everybody just jump toconclusions that that is one of the
other problems.
People are so desperate now inthis, in this information age to
come out and just saysomething because people will jump
to their own conclusion.
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So it's best to let things happen.
Go, let it go slowly.
Let all the investigationhappen and then demand answers.
Let's, let's go ahead and talkabout our local restaurant in focus
this week here.
We do this every, every show.
We talk about the website upreal quick.
Talk about a locally owned,usually family owned restaurant here
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in town.
And this week we're talkingabout Pioneer of Texas.
Now for those of you thataren't from the local area and don't
know the Pioneer restaurantchain, the website, the.
First, the home landing pageon the website's got their famous
enchilada.
Okay, well, we'll pull that.
Trying to try to pull that up.
So.
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Nope.
Well, not working.
Well, the, the URL that they.
Oh, here.
Texas restaurant dot com.
The Pioneer restaurant chainoriginated here in.
Wichita Falls in 1943.
Yep.
And at one time there wereeight, seven or eight pioneer restaurants.
There we go.
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What, what input do we havethat on there, by the way?
That's on the four.
Four.
Okay, there we go.
So there's a picture there.
There.
That is the enchilada plateright there.
That is, that is the pioneerenchilada plate.
Probably the most famous thingthey serve right there is that enchilada
looks like coleslaw.
I don't care what it is.
It's the enchiladas we're after.
Yeah, the enchiladas at the bottom.
But anyway, you can move all that.
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Other crap off of the enchiladas.
So here's the deal.
So you said 1943.
So they had these multiplePioneer restaurants around town.
They dominated the restaurantscene here for many, many years.
The McBride family owned it.
They also had McBride'sbranded restaurants.
McBride Land and Cattle, whichis downtown.
McBride Seafood, which waswest of the city and several others
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in town.
And El Gordo's was theirMexican restaurant.
El Gordo's that had their enchiladas.
Yes.
Which is right next door tothe McBride's downtown.
McBride's downtown.
So anyway, over the years, thefamily sold off multiple restaurant
properties, locations closeddown, and only one of the Pioneer
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restaurants now is back.
That as far as I'm aware, isactually back in McBride family hands,
and that's McBride's Steaks on Maplewood.
But Pioneer of Texas sprangfrom that same family, that same
organization, that same groupof restaurants, and still serves,
as far as I know, much thesame menu that they served.
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Yeah, 50, 60 years came withus with the sales and stuff.
But they're well known forchicken fried steak, well known for
enchiladas.
Oh, that's great.
Great food.
They're good people.
Take a look at that way.
Yeah, yeah.
So if you Awesomeness, right.
You got a hankering, hunkeringfor some from some good down home
cooking bride.
Pioneer of Tech.
Not McBride Pioneer of Texas.
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Out on Maplewood is a greatplace to go.
Yeah, great, great food andgreat restaurant.
And like I said, been aroundsince 43.
There's not, there's not manychains of any sort that have been
around.
Well, I guess we're going intothe nine decades now, nearly.
Yeah, well, and I think, Ithink they're actually.
The McBride family starteddoing restaurant sales before that.
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I think they started around inthe World War I era.
I think the pioneer was that.
That's when they branded it.
Pioneer was in 43.
And I don't know that 100%.
That was on their website.
The story I had heardpreviously was is that they started
serving sandwiches at CoalField, Cole Field, the World War
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I airfield here.
So that would have been 1917.
1918, somewhere in that era.
Well, the war ended, I guess,in 18.
So some of, you know,somewhere between 1916 and 1918.
And then, you know, over theyears they opened up restaurants.
It just, their, their food, itcaught fire.
People loved it.
The history is out there somewhere.
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I read it while waiting on myfood at a pioneer restaurant.
They had, they had our historyand I read it and.
But that was 20 years ago.
So I'm kind of going off my,my memory there.
But anyhow, also, guys, we inless than a week.
Yeah.
We lost Bryant Gumbel, JimmyCarter and Linda.
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Laughing Yes.
What an eclectic group that was.
I know.
Well, Jimmy, I'm not sure.
How was Brian Gumbel?
He was in his 80s, I believe.
Okay.
Former host of the Today showand football.
He did a lot of sportscasting, too, as well.
Jimmy Carter was 100 years old.
He's been suffering with.
He's been in hospice care forquite a while now.
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I think over a year and a half.
He had a brain tumor.
And I think after.
I think after his wifeRosalind passed, he went into hospice
care.
And then, of course, he passedaway at 100 years old.
And then Linda Lavin was 87 or 88.
Yeah, of course.
By the way, that's Alice.
Yeah, yeah.
For the TV show Alice.
Yeah.
And I think she spent reallymost of her career on the stage.
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So if you weren't intotheater, you probably didn't know
that she was still doing things.
But her big show was Alice,and that Alice was a cool show when
I was growing up.
And what was the most famousline from Alice?
Kiss my grits, Mel.
Kiss my grits, Flo.
Flo.
So if I'm not mistaken, the TVshow sprang from a movie.
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A film called Alice Doesn'tLive Here Anymore.
I think that's right.
Yeah.
And I think the only star fromthe film that transitioned over to
the TV show was Vic Tabak, whoplayed Mel.
Mel, he was in the film andthen came over to CBS to do the TV
show.
Stow it was his big river.
Stow it, Alex.
Stow it, Vera.
You know, you look at that.
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Of course, you know.
Well, I think all of the maincast have passed away now.
Oh, I'm sure.
I don't know if the son.
He has passed away.
He passed away, and I know welost him a few years ago, but Linda
Lavin, I think she was thelast of the original cast to still
be around.
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I always thought it was funnybecause Vic Tabak was in.
Interesting when you see him.
And that was my firstexperience of seeing Vic Tabak was
in that.
Yes.
And then when you see him insome of his other roles and he's
completely.
You know, you forget thatthese people are actors.
That.
That's.
That is not really them.
That is a character they're playing.
I can't remember what show it was.
It was an old Western.
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Maybe it was Bonanza orsomething like that, where he's.
He's playing a character.
I think it was on Bonanza.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
And it.
You look, you go, is that Mel?
That's Mel, yeah.
He didn't have his.
Didn't have his.
His Navy tattoo on.
Yeah.
Mother or Whatever sailor'shat and have all that, you know,
to see him in that westerngarb and in that setting is.
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It was kind of weird becausewhen we were growing up, he was.
It was male.
So, you know.
Anyway, we're gonna talk aboutsome of the top stories of 2024,
of which there are many.
So I guess we'll just startwith January.
Yeah, 2024.
Most of this I kind of put insomewhat of order of my tried.
To big stories of January oflast year.
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A Boeing jet made an emergencylanding after a panel known as a
door plug blew out mid flight.
Fortunately, nobody wasactually injured in the thing.
Well, you know, in the movies, traumatized.
But in movies, when aphysical, when a plane deported pressurizes,
people get sucked out.
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Yeah, you know, I don't thinkthat happened in this case.
Well, if you got your seatbelt on, you're not going to be sucked.
You're not going.
Yeah.
You know, but it has.
That's a scary thing.
Oh my God.
Can you imagine being in aplane all of a sudden?
Yeah, your ears pop and.
Oh, yeah, it's got to be.
Got to be completely traumatizing.
But yeah, it did happen.
And of course, that was amajor thing for Boeing because it
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launched investigation into Boeing.
Yeah.
And they've lost Boeingbillions in stock pricing and stuff
like that.
And then I think theyannounced that they're going to lay
off about 17,000 workers.
Oh my gosh.
But the thing is though, onthat the Spirit Airlines was spun
off.
That's an assembly company.
This is in Wichita, Kansas.
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I was up there for eight yearsand Boeing had a big presence up
there.
And when they had spun off theassembly or fuselage assembly or
something off to this othercompany that called Spirit.
So they, because they even hadcontracts with Airbus as well.
Okay.
Now they brought.
They're bringing it back.
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I think was the last I hadheard about all out of.
As a result of some of theissues they've had quality control
and all that, they're gettingthat pulling it back underneath.
FAA has been, you know, all over.
Them along those lines.
I saw a story probably a weekor so before Christmas.
They were talking about allthe holiday travel, the number of
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people that were traveling bycar versus airplane versus flying.
I was like, it was under.
I want to say the number wasunder a million that were expected
to fly somewhere within thecontinental US versus driving.
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Now they didn't.
I don't think they werecounting international flights.
And obviously if you're goingto Hawaii or Alaska, you're going
to fly.
You're not going to drive.
I was going to say you would.
Well, you know, don't theyhave a ferry?
Yeah.
Catch a cruise ship.
Yeah.
Better leave eight days aheadof time.
But anyway.
But no, it's, it was, it was.
The number was really stunningto me and the number of people driving.
It was, it was just agargantuan number of people driving.
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But we know.
I think a big part of that is,is it's such a pain.
And plus they nickel and dimeyou now literally.
I mean, they are charging someoutrageous fees now.
I flew to Florida when I wentto the, to the Apple meeting and
everything that I went to backin October.
And you know, that was firsttime I'd flown in quite a while and
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it was a good experience.
Now I was looking at what wasthe airline, either Frontier or Spirit.
I've heard don't do front.
Spirit for sure.
But Frontier is probably nottoo far away from the way they.
But yeah, their, their pricingwas like.
Look, yeah, here's my, here'sTrey's travel tip.
If you're gonna fly, just,just fly American, United, Delta,
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fly somebody who's a namebrand character, you're gonna pay
a little bit more.
Yeah, it's not.
But, but couple.
Not a huge amount.
No.
When you get it all, when youhave to do all.
That's what I'm saying.
You're gonna pay a little bitmore up front, but you're not gonna
get nickel to dime.
And quite frankly, I'm justgoing to put it out there.
When you get air travel thatis so cheap that everybody can afford
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it, you get people who aren'tused to flying and show up in their
pajamas.
And like the Walmart of.
Yeah, it really is.
It kind of is.
And it's kind of likeeverybody just shows up there and,
and you see more fist fightsand stuff like that.
And Nearport, there's a lot of that.
And I think part of it isbecause air travel used to be kind
of one of those things.
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It was kind of dressed up.
Yeah.
But it was kind of expensiveand you kind of saved up and it was
kind of credit card.
Yeah, it was really cold.
But now it's, it's almostlike, almost like we're gonna run
you in there like cattle andyou're gonna act like cattle.
Southwest has been for a longtime now they're doing reserve seating.
But yeah.
Yeah.
So I would say just stick withone of the major airlines and, and
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in the end you're, you'reprobably gonna, I Don't know that
you'll save money, but you'reprobably gonna break even or close
to, and I think you'reprobably gonna have a better experience.
Yeah.
Overall.
Well, again, since I hadn'tflown in so long, when I sat down,
even on I flew American andultimately when I, When I sat down
to pick my seats, and if it'sa center seat or there's anyway there's
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certain seats you're gonna paya little extra for.
And they say they, they haveparticipated in this nickel and diming
as well.
If it's one of the rows thathas a little bit extra room, you
know, with the.
But that's fine.
You know, ahead of time, youcan either pick that seat or not
pick that seat.
Well, that.
No, that's true, but it's still.
Anyway, I, I just was surprised.
And then, you know, dependingon your ticket, the one you get,
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whether you get a checked baggage.
Of course, I didn't needchecked baggage, but they checked
my bag anyway.
That's your hack, by the way.
Used to be the hack is youcould do a gate check and they didn't
even do it now.
Every time, both times I flew,they wanted me to check it.
Yeah.
Even though I didn't have topay for it.
You know, I would have had to pay.
Yeah.
If you, if you gate check it,then they don't know you don't pay
the extra.
Unless.
Unless they see it and theygo, that's too big, then they'll
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turn you.
But also, you have people,people don't want to fly anymore.
You have people that are.
That are trying to put stuffinto overhead bins.
You know, you have yourAmericans and your stuff like that
that tend to not be quite as critical.
But then you have your spiritsand stuff like that.
Yeah.
Oh, it better fit down in that overhead.
You know, the template and all.
I had a guy tell me the otherday over the holidays, he flew out
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because of.
They were going to meet afamily member, and then they were
flying up to the northwest andthey flew out of San Antonio.
And he said it was a muchbetter experience than he's ever
had at dfw.
See, I don't mind dfw.
I've been in and out of DFW abunch of times.
I pick people up there, I'vedropped people off and I've flown
in out there.
DFW doesn't bother me.
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Well, I hear that all the time.
But did you.
Do you fly?
You flown more than me, I guess.
But do you do the pre TSA pre.
Did you do that?
Yeah, I did.
I went ahead and signed up.
It's.
Well good for five years orsomething like that.
Yeah.
So it's worth.
You know, I've already renewed it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Also, January of 2024, the.
Some Jeffrey Epstein documentswere unsealed revealing the names
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Prince Andrew and formerPresident Bill Clinton.
And this did not make the newsas much as I think it should have.
It was.
Well, that was deliberate.
Well, yeah, I know, but it's.
It's like, why is it that BillClinton, of all people gets a pass
and has gotten a pass for years?
He got a pass when he was in the.
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When he was in office.
I know he was the.
I will say Bill Clinton.
I believe that Bill Clintonwas the beginning of the new era
where politicians can get awaywith stuff.
Yeah.
Because one cycle before that,we've talked about it here.
Right here was Joe Biden andGary Hart.
Yeah.
Or one cycle before, weren't they?
One cycle.
Yeah.
Well, in 1988, the DemocraticParty, they didn't just throw Gary
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Hart under the bus.
They backed that thing up andran over him again.
And Gary Hart all.
He was.
All he.
He did have an affair withsomebody, but he didn't do it while
he was in office.
No.
In the White House, he was.
He was still a potential nominee.
Nominee.
Then Joe Biden was.
Was ousted because ofplagiarism, if you remember.
I believe in that same cycle.
Yes.
Bill Clinton comes along andhe pulls what he pulls where, you
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know, he does have sexualrelations with that woman in the
White House on the clock.
And she was an in.
And she was an employee of theWhite House.
I mean, you think about thaton so many different levels.
Yeah, that was wrong.
On so many different levels.
Somebody having an affair withsomebody that's.
I'm not for that.
I'm against it.
Because you shouldn't haveaffairs, in my opinion.
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But two grown adults making achoice to engage in sexual, you know,
whatever on their own is.
That's their business.
But when you are doing it inthe people's house while you're on
the clock and with somebodywho's on the clock as well and being
paid by the taxpayer and youare their supervisor.
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You're.
You're their boss.
Yeah, that.
And they're the ultimate boss.
And we're with all the feminists.
He got away with it.
And there was women that wereletting this go.
And it's like, why aren't youscreaming bloody murder?
That this guy had power overthis person.
I will Tell you, I know womenwho are, who I would, I would characterize
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them as hardcore feminist types.
And they absolutely fawned allover Bill Clinton.
I knew it.
They couldn't get enough of him.
And there was one, I won't saya name.
There was one that I knew,haven't seen or spoken to her in
many, many years now.
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But I asked her point blankbecause I knew what her position
on Bill Clinton was and I knewwhat her position was on certain
social issues, too.
And I asked her point blank, Isaid, how do you reconcile your beliefs
about certain male behaviorswith the President's behavior and
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treatment of an intern underhis direct control?
She went nuts on me, lost.
I mean, literally call menames you wouldn't believe and worse.
And I'm like, it's alegitimate question.
It's a legitimate question.
So I think you're right.
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That was the beginning of that era.
I'm telling you right now, ifI'm, if I'm, if I'm president and
I'm walking into the OvalOffice, my first question is, has
anybody disinfected theresolute desk since 98?
Can we get a black light in here?
Yeah, well, I'm just saying, I mean.
Just, you know, Bill, check it out.
Bill Clinton was the age ofthe new era where people could get
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away with things that they, yeah.
They weren't able to get away with.
But now, to be fair, and youknow, we're all, none, not any one
of us was an original Trump fan.
No.
Right.
We, this is not who we wouldhave chosen by any means.
Wouldn't even chosen him this cycle.
Right.
But he ended up being theRepublican nominee, which is the
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closest to what we believe.
So given that, justinteresting that this Trump in his
current form, for a lot ofreasons, there's no way that he would
have made it.
Now, sometimes given, givenwhere we're at, have we lowered our
standards?
You know, and, and so nowwe've lowered our standards.
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But given what, again, whoended up in the top, he ended up
being.
That we are clearly, as asociety, we are more accepting of,
of certain things than wewould have been 30, 40, 50 years
ago.
I think social media has awhole lot of that.
I think it does plays a role.
People are just desensitized.
Yeah.
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But I think that, that alsothere's some things that I think
that were not I, I who do.
Who cares?
Right.
There's some things aboutClinton or any of them, like, who
cares to the extent that canhe get the job done?
That's that we've, but we'veaccepted more.
Well, but I, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Except for you can't do it onthe clock and you can't do it well.
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No, no, no.
Trump was a scumbag in his past.
Okay.
There's no doubt.
Right.
And he, he cheated.
I mean, he cheated on hisfirst wife with his second wife and
he, I don't know about Milani.
I don't know what his business is.
And honestly, I could, I couldfrom a morality standpoint, say,
hey, I think it's wrong to, tocheat on your partner.
But, but that's as far as it goes.
And that's as far as it wouldhave gone with Clinton.
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I don't care that Bill Clintonhad an affair with Monica Lewinsky.
Right.
I care that Bill Clinton had avery close based on who she was.
Right.
And where.
When it happened.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's what, that's whatbothered me.
But as far as Trump goes,yeah, he's a scumbag for cheating
on Ivana with Marla Maples.
Well, and you know, out herein the regular real world, where
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the rest of us live, you know,corporate America, whatever, you
know, the CEO of whatever getscaught having an affair with, you
know, an intern or an employeeor someone under their control, it's
going to create a majorscandal, at least within that company.
It's not what's good for the company.
It's probably going to resultin that guy or gal resigning from
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their position over it at a minimum.
So.
And you mentioned social mediaplaying a role.
But here's the thing, though.
With Bill Clinton, when hecame on the scene in 1992, there
was no social media.
No, I agree.
I think that was the beginning.
When the Lewinsky affairhappened, there really wasn't any
social media.
We had America Online.
I don't, I'm sorry, I don'tcount that as, you know, that was,
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that was a message board andthey gave you a song.
We did have the 24 hour newscycle at the time that started it
as well.
Right.
But I think social media hasexacerbated the standard.
I think it's easy to arguehere that in that release of that
information between PrinceAndrew and former President Clinton,
Prince Andrew definitely gotthe worst end of the treatment on.
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Oh, sure, absolutely.
And deserved it, by the way.
Done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Moving on to February, theKansas City Chiefs went back when,
back to back Super Bowls.
First time in 20 years that they'd.
Done that or that anybody'swanted back to Back Super Bowl.
Yeah.
That was.
That was huge.
March.
A container ship struckBaltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge.
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That was, you know, and that was.
That still.
To me, that's still big newswith a lot of unanswered questions.
There's still question marksall over that.
Yeah.
Why did that happen?
Why did it happen?
People lost their lives.
It impacted the lives ofmillions of people in that area.
That's exactly.
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You said it exactly right, Mike.
Not only did people.
There were a few people thatlost their lives in the accident
itself, but the impact forpeople in that area was enormous.
And how many people did losetheir lives because they couldn't
use that bridge to get to hospitals?
There's a lot of knock oneffects that could have happened.
Yeah.
Based on that.
Yeah, that did happen.
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Yeah.
It's just.
And a lot of it's unmeasurablebecause unknown because you don't
know about grandma.
Who, who had that bridge beenopen maybe could have gotten to the
hospital and gotten savedfaster or whatever.
And this and this fell out ofthe news cycle very quickly.
You know, it was there andgone in no time.
Well, just a quick update.
In October, the owner andmanager of the cargo ship that caused
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the deadly Baltimore Bridgecollapse have agreed to pay more
than 102 million in cleanup costs.
But here's the other side of.
Could cost as much as $2billion to rebuild it.
It's going to be 2 billionbucks to rebuild it.
Yes.
And it's supposed to berebuilt in 28.
Wow.
That's.
I just the built just howabridged costs that much.
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Wow.
Look what, look what we spendjust on repaving roads.
You know, just repaving roadsin our own community will cost us
millions of dollars.
I forget somewhere down theline I've heard how much per mile
it is, but it's a lot of money.
But then the bridge.
I don't know about thisbridge, but most bridges though,
in a town like that have astrategic purpose.
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Right.
Because you.
To travel way around to go toanother bridge.
And that's what they're havingto do now is now you're having to
reroute traffic.
You're adding for some folks,maybe hours.
Well, here in Wichita Falls isa perfect example.
There's an overpass that goesfrom the traditional downtown area
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to Eastside Drive.
And that was put in.
And there were a lot of blackleaders back in the, I don't know,
the 60s or 70s or wheneverthey did that.
That was put in for thatreason because it was an inconvenience
for east side residentsbecause of railroad tracks.
And a whole lot of times there were.
There's a major railroad hubIn Wichita Falls, 7th Street.
Exactly.
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And going across there, therewere times that there were track,
There were railroad cars inplace, and eastside residents couldn't
go.
Couldn't get to the other sideof town, but especially hospitals,
ambulances and all that.
Yeah.
And Charlie Ferris was a bigpart of having that happen.
Wichita fall, which didn't.
Charlie Ferris was a huge partof making that bridge happen, and
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she fought for that, and that was.
That was the right thing to do.
So you're saying that's aperfect example locally of the strategic
thing, because eastsideresidents could not always cross
the railroad tracks when theyneeded to, so that.
That overpass was constructedso they would have access to the
rest of the town at any time.
I used to work on the eastside years and years ago.
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And yeah, there were timeswhere you would try to use that 7th
street crossing a lot oftimes, and it's completely blocked.
And you come back throughthere five, six hours later and it
was still blocked.
So for hours at a time, thatintersection would be inaccessible
and totally unusable.
And before you had thatoverpass, you had to go all the way
down one direction or theother to maneuver there.
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Well, you'd have to go.
I guess you would.
Had to have gone down business287 Scott Avenue and come around
and catch what was then eastside Drive.
From that or Highway 240, you had.
To go all the way down to theend there.
Or you could have gone,depending on where you lived in Eastside.
If you live closer, you couldhave gone up to fifth street or.
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I'm sorry, not fifth Street.
I'll take that.
You've gone up to Lincoln Street.
Yeah.
And gone into the Lincoln Bridge.
Yeah.
Not.
It's.
It's a bridge.
It's not the Lincoln, Is notthe Lincoln Tunnel.
It's just.
It's a.
It's a railroad track.
Railroad trellis.
Yeah.
That goes over the.
Yeah.
So you could have done that,but it's still inconvenient.
And when you're talking aboutminutes, if you're having an ambulance
or something, that can make a difference.
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Also in March, anti Israelprotests erupt on college campuses.
We saw a lot violence, a lot of.
A lot of hateful rhetoricbeing thrown at Israel.
And that was college campusesthat started, I believe, sometime
around March.
But it carried through for.
Through.
Through the end of the.
That second semester of college.
And I mean, there Werelawsuits being filed.
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There were colleges that lostmillions of dollars because there
were a lot of Jewish donorsthat were going, hey, if you guys
can't take care of this.
And look, I'm all in favor of protests.
I'm all in favor of allowing protest.
I'm not a big protest person myself.
But allowing protests,peaceful protests.
But when you start, when youstart, go impeding somebody else's
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way, keeping them in thelibrary, not letting them get out
of the library and that sortof thing, and putting fear into people,
then you're wrong and you needto be dispersed.
You need to be thrown in jail.
You need.
That crap needs to end.
Or.
Or I'm also in favor of.
Or let's change the law to where.
If you're impeding me, you getwhat you get.
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I get to go through you, andI'm okay with that, too.
So I don't care what.
How you want to do the laws.
We either need to have the lawto where people's progress is protected
by the law, or they can taketheir law into their own hands and
handle it themselves.
You tell me what the rulesare, I don't give a shit.
I'll go by either one of them.
But if you're going to havethis law that I can't take the law
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into my own hands, then thegovernment does have a responsibility
to make sure that my rightsare looked after.
We had a total, total solareclipse back in April.
Big.
A big chunk of North Americagot to see it.
Fifteen US States saw the totality.
People traveled all over the country.
They did.
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And then it was overcast.
I didn't see.
I was driving in California onthe West Coast.
I mean, I was literally on the coast.
It got a little dusky, alittle bit.
I didn't even stop the car andlook at it because it.
Yeah, well, we.
We got out there and took a look.
Yeah, we had, you know, someof the solar glasses, you know, where
you could look at it, you know.
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Photos, man.
Yeah.
I put up my phone behind thelittle glass.
I got some photos.
So, you know, it was kind ofcool, but, you know, there was a
time in human history when alot of people would have been very
freaked out by that.
Yeah, they would have swornthat that was a sign that the world
was coming to an end right now.
And it would have caused allkinds of chaos.
(35:39):
And now we know it's no justthe moon.
What are the flat Earthers sayabout that, by the way?
Guys?
With time constraints, youguys want to do May and then do the,
we can next show.
Do the rest of the year.
Yeah, we can do that.
We'll end it.
We'll wrap it up here with May.
Donald Trump was found guiltyon all 34 charges in a hush money
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trial.
Boy, has the tide turned onthat one.
Well, and that's to me, Ithink the last half of the year is
going to have a lot of discussion.
So I figured, I mean, we'd behere for three hours if we, if we
don't break it up.
But yeah, this is when thatshoe dropped.
And then at this point therewas a lot of speculation.
Is Trump really going to go to jail?
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Here's the thing I said allalong, there's no way Donald Trump
serves a day in prison.
He was never, even if hehadn't won, he was never going to
prison.
What, you got a lock, A dozenSecret Service agents up in the prison
with him.
We had a little big discussionabout that.
I totally agree, but come on.
But there was a lot ofspeculation out there, was he going
to go to jail?
(36:43):
But if not, was he going to besentenced to jail?
And if he was sinister, thenhow would that play out?
Because I don't know what therules are.
If a judge says, okay, I'mconfining you to, I'm reminding you
in jail.
But then Donald Trump goes, hey.
So in other words, if DonaldTrump feels threatened as a president,
(37:04):
then he has presidentialprotection from the Secret Service.
So do the local police.
How are you gonna puthandcuffs on the President of the
United States if he says, I'mnot going in handcuffs?
Does the Secret Service havean obligation to fight the local
police to protect him?
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
And we don't want it to turninto that.
We hope that every colt calmerheads prevail.
But you never know.
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All of this was done for onereason and one reason only.
To try and upend his chancesof being the Republican nominee.
That worked for you, period.
That's all.
And I think, I think itstrengthened him.
Actually, it was a dog andpony show that backfired on.
I think that all of thisactually contributed to Donald Trump
(37:45):
winning the election with themargin he did.
Yes.
Yeah, it galvanized his base.
I mean, I think he was goingto beat Jamala Harris anyhow, or
Joe Biden for that matter.
I had, I mean, I said thatearly in the year.
I felt pretty certain that hewas going to be the next president,
but, but for sure, I thinkthat this, this helped his, his margin
(38:06):
had it.
Not been for this, I think theelection, the results would have
been much tighter, it wouldhave been closer.
But this galvanized his basein a way that nothing else could
have.
And it just, it worked for him.
It's just interesting how hehas peeled away a lot of what we
would call traditionalDemocrat voters again, you know,
like Reagan.
(38:27):
Reagan Democrats.
Yeah, he does, but they'relike, man, he just speaks the plain.
Even though he's not the bestorator in the world, he still speaks
to somewhat to the common person.
I think that's what served himwell the first time around.
And this time is when he doesspeak and he does talk about these
things, all the issues that apresident has to talk or candidate
(38:51):
has to talk about, he's ableto sound more like us than he is
them.
Well, here's the thing.
I think the reason is becauseI think, and I'm speaking for all
of us working class people, Ithink that we don't mind as a whole.
I don't think we mind wealthy people.
But don't bullshit me aboutyou being wealthy.
Don't tell me you're one of meand you're not.
(39:14):
Just say, hey, I'm rich now,here's how I got here or whatever
it is.
You know, it's the people thatare the very wealthy people who try
to, oh shucks, I'm just a goodold boy from, you know, so and so.
Or I'm just a good old gallike Nancy Pelosi.
Nancy Pelosi is rich people.
She is wealthy beyond imagine.
(39:35):
And she did it as a, in theHouse of Representatives.
You tell me how that happened.
And I think that that is oneof the biggest things and I'm hoping
that this administration couldstart to peel back that onion some
and figure out why not figureout, but put some rules in place
on keeping that shit from happening.
But I go back to, I think termlimits are the number one thing.
(39:56):
If we put term limits inplace, a lot of that corruption stuff
will go away.
I think the term limits andyou know, I've had this argument
with a number of people as well.
We don't know, we don't needterm limits.
You know, we got the ballot box.
Well, that hasn't worked.
The problem that we have withtrying to rely on elections as a
check on their, on how longthese people serve is that when you
(40:18):
get to the primaries, thechallengers have no chance.
When your turnout for aprimary is somewhere at or just under
10% of the total registeredvoters and 60 to 75% of those people
are going to vote for theincumbent candidate.
Challengers have no chance.
So the incumbent remains inplace and the incumbent in a general.
(40:42):
General election has an edge,if for no other reason, just due
to name recognition.
Well, not only that, they getto campaign.
I've gotten three mailers fromRonny Jackson.
Yes, he's not campaigning, buthe is in a way.
But he's.
Ronny Jackson is doing this,this and this.
Well, that's great, but whatI'm saying is.
But he's able to do that whilehe's serving.
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Yes.
Right.
Whereas if you're, if you're.
Not, if you're a candidate andyou're not don't have that job, you
have to dedicate time andresources and everything to top of
mind to campaign.
That, that.
Exactly right, exactly.
So keeping them top of mind.
Last one on the list here for May.
The Iranian president dies ina helicopter crash.
That was a big deal.
I mean, it wasn't necessarilya big deal to us, but if you were
(41:27):
on that part of the world,especially if you're, I mean, that
would be like our presidentdying in helicopter crash.
I mean, no matter how much allof us dislike Joe Biden.
I know I didn't.
I definitely to this day don'twant Joe Biden to die while in office.
And I don't think you guystreat it.
Yeah.
We all agree that he's beentreated very badly by his handlers
(41:48):
and his, and his wife.
Allowing all of that.
That's a whole nother issue.
But what I'm saying is.
But you don't want the leaderof your country.
No.
To die while in office.
Well, yeah, and I think one ofthe dangers when someone like this,
the, the extreme leader of anextreme regime in an extreme country
dies.
(42:09):
Iran.
You mean the democracy of direof Iran.
So with someone likeDemocratic Republic of.
Iran, with someone like thatin power dies.
The big worry for us and forother Western countries is is does
it create a power vacuum?
Yeah.
And what's going to get suckedinto that power vacuum?
What's going to take whathappened to.
Iraq as horrible as SaddamHussein was.
(42:30):
Yeah.
As horrible as a person he was.
And the, the horrible thingsthat he did to his people and he
desired, deserved to die for it.
He kept everything in line tosome degree.
Yeah.
He was a madman.
He wasn't good.
He needed to be gone.
But the problem is you almostneed to be sure that there's somebody
better who's going to takethat place because Iraq did fall
(42:55):
into Chaos for a while.
Well, yeah, we may still be.
I don't.
Well, but we, we sort of had ahandle on it for a little while.
Well, it's so sad when youlook at photographs and video of
Iran before the mullahs tookover, when the Shah was still in
power, when, you know, itlooked like a very westernized country.
(43:17):
Yeah.
And by the way, the Shah was.
No, no, no.
Great guy.
Oh, no, no, no.
Jesus Christ.
No, no, no.
That guy took advantage of awhole lot.
They had a lot of money.
He took advantage of a lot of stuff.
I mean, it took advantage ofhis people.
It was basically almost likewhere you had the haves and have
nots.
It was very westernized and ifyou were a have, you were shitting
in high cotton.
But if you were a have not,you lived in swallow.
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But it went from one extremeto the other.
When the Shah was assassinatedand the.
Well, he was sinwidded.
Exiled.
Sorry, exiled.
When the Shah was pushed outof power, when he was exiled and
the mullahs came into controlin Iran, you saw this dramatic shift
(44:00):
into this deep extreme Islamictight fisted control of everything.
And you know, it just.
How many, how many women andchildren have been slaughtered?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's horrible.
I mean, I mean it goes, itgoes back to.
This is why as as manyproblems as we have in America, this
(44:25):
is why democracy is best.
Yeah.
Because.
Because.
And we can argue about democracy.
I'm using the broad term ofdemocracy is best.
We have people who do comeinto power.
We do have people that takeadvantage, there's no doubt about
it.
But they also leave.
(44:45):
And, and their control is notusually so tight fisted.
Even, Even when the governmenttried to control people with COVID
there was a whole lot ofpeople that said, f off, I'm not
doing it.
A lot of people.
Yeah.
And so that's, that's the nicething about democracy.
Because if you have placeslike Iran or some of these extreme
(45:06):
countries, you don't.
You have no say.
And you better keep your mouth shut.
And if you say anything,you're gone.
Well, they try to give theillusion that you have some say,
but then when it really comesdown to it.
Yeah, yeah.
I think China is the modernexample of that, of a country that,
you know.
Yeah, you look like you gotsome freedoms, you look like you
(45:28):
got some leeway, but youbetter watch your mouth when you're
talking about the government.
As long as you play the game.
Yeah.
You better be in lockstep.
I've heard from some expertsthat were Western People who spent
a lot of time in China andthat's what they're saying is if
you go out, go to China, a lotof it, it does look like suburban,
you know, suburban America.
You know, picket fence, threecar, two car garage, two cars in
(45:52):
the driveway.
You know what, 2.3 kids, threebedroom, two bath house.
You know, brick home and all that.
It's nice.
But that comes at a cost ofyour freedom of your thought.
Right.
Right.
You are, you can think, yourfreedom of your speech.
You're playing along.
Yeah.
You're scored on your social behavior.
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You're scored on how you actand react within the system.
And if you react negatively,if you say negative things about
the leadership, if you pushback against anything, you run the
risk of basically disappearing.
Yeah.
Bad news.
You know, I mean, and there,I'm sure there's many millions of
(46:34):
people in China that theirfamilies don't know what happened
to them.
That's right.
Unfortunately.
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