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December 13, 2024 25 mins

Can a tale from 1938 ripple into the digital age, sparking fear and fascination? Picture Orson Welles' infamous "War of the Worlds" broadcast, which had New Jersey residents in a frenzied panic over an alien invasion. Now, fast forward to 2024, where New Jersey skies host a new mystery: large drones causing a stir and a storm of speculation. From theories of tech moguls like Elon Musk orchestrating aerial experiments to whispers of foreign interference, we unravel how this modern-day phenomenon echoes the past, with government officials scrambling to reassure the public reminiscent of those old radio days. Join us as we navigate this intriguing narrative, weaving together cultural references, historical parallels, and the very real anxiety such sightings invoke.

Switching gears, we tackle the complex issue of white privilege within sports, a realm that should, ideally, be a merit-based sanctuary. We delve into the pressures athletes face to conform, the judgment they endure, and the societal biases that seep into the locker rooms. Challenging the notion that sports are an equalizer, the episode sheds light on personal stories of athletes who face bullying and a lack of support despite their talent. We reflect on whether performance should truly be the sole criterion for acceptance and success, and how fame and societal expectations often skew this ideal. Through engaging and honest conversations, we aim to uncover the truth behind talent and the societal biases that athletes navigate in their careers.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What you just said is one of the most insanely
idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling,incoherent response were you
even close to anything thatcould be considered a rational
thought.
Everyone in this room is nowdumber for having listened to.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
it is now dumber for having listened to it.
You don't know what that oughtis, mr Trash, I'd show you.
But I'm too old, I'm too tired,I'm too fucking blind.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
If I were the man I was five years ago.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'd take a flamethrower to this place.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Do you understand the words that are coming out of?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
my mouth.
You want answers.
I think I'm entitled.
You want answers, I want thetruth.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
You can't handle the truth.
We've said it once, we've saidit twice, we've said it a
million times the truth shallalways set you free.
It's time to get off my lawnthe mad ramblings of a TEDx show
.
Oh, we got to talk about thedrones in the sky, lucy in the
sky with diamonds.
We also have to talk aboutCaitlin Clark and the WNBA and a
bunch of other topics.

(01:18):
We took a little bit of asabbatical after the Trump win
Because, like Bruce Springsteen,who's supposed to be leaving
the country, the boss is back,oh, and not a moment too soon.
October 30th 1938.
Orson Welles that was hisfamous War of the Worlds radio

(01:38):
broadcast.
It was on CBS Radio Network.
That's the infamous episodethat basically incited panic
riots, a vigilantism convincinga lot of the members of his
audience that Martians haveinvaded Grover's Mill, new
Jersey.
You heard the story.
I lived not too far from thatarea, so you always heard the

(01:59):
stories.
Because I don't know.
I think it's still there and Ithink it's a landmark.
There is like a tower inGrover's Mill.
It was on a farmer's land.
I don't know if it was a watertower, no, but it was this large
tower and residents drove downto Grover's Mill in 1938 with
shotguns in hand and startedtaking matters into their own
hands, looking for the alieninvasion, looking for the alien

(02:20):
horde, defined the tower.
They shot the tower.
Then they literally had to um,you know, they had to come out
and say, listen, guys, this,this isn't real.
This isn't real.
There was a news conferencethat was put together next
morning Cause you gotta remember, this is 1938.
And they basically had to sayhey, you know what Orson Welles
had to say, listen, it didn'treally happen.

(02:42):
You know.
Just, you know, it was just aradio show and I love it because
people don't understand that.
You know, you remember OrsonWelles, some people do.
I was mad, but he was only 23when this happened and this was
off an HG Welles novel, veryfamous author.

(03:03):
But it caused this panic, itincited the New Jerseyans to
take up arms.
Well, back in 2024.
Now the same thing is happening.
There's lights above the NewJersey skies, in and around
Dover, new Jersey, now goingthrough Pennsylvania, now going
through New York.
These are drone sightings.

(03:24):
A lot of residents are sayingthese drones are the size of an
SUV and they're seeing dozens ofthem at a time at night, all
different directions.
We have one Jersey Shorerealtor named James Ward said he
saw above a bunch ofdrone-sized SUVs above Island
Beach State Park on Sunday.
He said it was difficult tojudge the size but he showed a

(03:46):
video of numerous lights in thesky Lucy in the sky with
diamonds, and I love it becausethen he posted this video and
you had a lot of people sayingyou know what A good shot.
The gun will fix that problem.
Semi-automatic three-inchMagnum 00 buck full choke, said
another reply on his Twitterpost.
They seem to be over the shoreof Tom's River, New Jersey.

(04:09):
They seem to be over Trump'sgolf course.
The Democratic mayor, philMurphy, had a was going to have
a press conference a couple daysago to discuss everything that
was going on to dissuade thefears of New Jerseyans and
everyone else.
But the funny thing is a lot oflawmakers showed up, the press
showed up.
Governor Murphy didn't show upto his own press conference in

(04:33):
New Jersey.
There's a call from twoRepublican congressmen saying
the federal government shouldshoot down these unidentified
drones in safe areas.
Of course the FAA's regulationsprohibit, of course, the unsafe
operations, aircraft manned ornot manned.
So we're all trying to figureout where these drones are

(04:54):
coming from.
The Coast Guard is saying thatthey are going over, they're
coming from over the water.
There is talk and speculation,of course, that there is a ship
from Iran off the coast sittingthere waiting, launching these
drones investigating.

(05:14):
You have some people saying thatthese are a government design
program.
And I love it because you havethe likes of John Kirby and I'm
trying to see if I have theaudio clip.
I don't have the audio clip,but John Kirby, of course, came
out and said we have not beenable to, and neither have state

(05:35):
or local law enforcements,collaborate any reports, any of
the reported visual sightings.
I love it.
This has been going on for 19days.
To the contrary, upon review ofthe film imagery appears that
many of the report sightings areactually manned aircraft that
are being fully operatedlawfully.
There is no report or confirmeddrone sightings in any
restricted airspace.
Yes, because this is the samepeople that we had a Chinese spy

(05:57):
balloon flying over the countryfor a month, before they
finally said, oh, yeah, yeah,you know what.
A month before they finallysaid, oh, yeah, yeah, you know
what.
They're flying over militaryinstallations, they're gathering
information.
We can't block theirtransmission, but there's
nothing to worry about.
This federal government.
This version of the federalgovernment is terrible, is god

(06:19):
awful.
And then you hear that thebranches of the military their
drone counterintelligence.
They only spent about a half amillion dollars on drone
counterintelligence and on theentire military budget out of
the Department of HomelandSecurity budget they only spent
about a half a million dollars.
And then the question is ifthese are just unmanned aircraft

(06:47):
, how come the FAA is not seeingthem on radar?
I'm not saying they're Martians, but these are people that seem
to be unlawfully using unmannedaircraft in spaces above New
Jersey and you kind of have tosit there and think about it for
a second.
I mean, really, you havehundreds of videos.

(07:10):
It's not like the War of theWorlds, which was in 1938, where
you sat there and you couldn'tverify this information unless
you drove down there to Grover'sMill Pond and saw everything
that was going on.
You can't, I've seen thesevideos and saw everything that
was going on.
You can't, I've seen thesevideos.
They're kind of a littlestrange.
You have a former United StatesAir Force colonel basically

(07:33):
saying listen, hey and this wason CNN this is Colonel Cedric
Leanington.
He says stop telling the guardand residents to not believe
your own eyes.
Speculation, of course, isgoing to run rampant when you do

(07:53):
not give the public anyinformation and, like I said, we
don't need I am so I cannotwait till this administration
has gone on January 20th,because these people are just
terrible.
I mean, like I said, john, thenational security spokesman,
john Kirby I always love him.
There's only 3,000 plus reportsof car-sized drones hovering in
the night sky for the lastseveral weeks.
But you know what's funny?
You don't believe that, don'tbelieve what you're seeing.
No, close your eyes, close youreyes.

(08:16):
Us Representative Jeff Van Drewthis week sounded the alarm Of
course we talked about that whenhe made the bombshell claim
that a highly reliable sourcebasically told him that the
drones are coming from anIranian mothership stationed off
the shore.
Now that the Pentagon quicklyshut down and said no, no, no,
no, no, no.
That's not the truth, but we'renot going to give any other

(08:36):
explanation, we're not going togive any other findings or to
say that's not true.
They're basically telling theAmerican people that you can't
believe your own eyes and you'restupid.
If this is some type ofmilitary function by us, you can
literally say that's okay.
There was a township over, ofcourse, in New Jersey police

(08:59):
scanner and this was a couple ofdays ago.
There was on Thursday actuallyat 847, a learning officer
officers to a suspected dronecrash.
He said the drone came down ina resident's backyard.
The 911 dispatch says it's asmall one, Lights are blinking
and it has a tail on it.
The audio clip then opens upsources of police scanners that

(09:20):
suggest the police were alertedto another drone that was
brought down by power lines inMorris County, new Jersey, at
9.35 pm as well.
This has turned into a littlebit of a war of the worlds.
This is when people get hurt.
This is when people take thingsinto their own hands.
3,000 drone sightings in NewJersey since December.

(09:42):
This is crazy.
You had literally 43 sightingsin Morris County, new Jersey.
Hunterton, new Jersey, had 180.
Somerset 165.
189 for Monmouth, and the listgoes on.
Some people are saying thatmaybe it's Amazon, maybe it's

(10:03):
Elon Musk testing out a newdelivery method, and I love it
because again they're tellingresidents you didn't see this.
Ari Perez, 26-year-old she isanimate.
She saw a drone flying overWayne, new Jersey, on Thursday.
She said it's freaking me out,but of course the government's

(10:24):
saying no, no, no, no, ms Perez,you didn't see shit.
You saw nothing.
I see nothing, nothing.
Those lights in the skies arenothing you need to worry about.
Everyone forgets Not everyoneforgets, because they always say
never forget.
Everyone forgets Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor, the United Statesgovernment lost Now this is

(10:51):
back in the day, of course,where you didn't have the
facilities, it's 1941 but theywere.
You know, they still tracked,excuse me, the japanese fleet,
the imperial japanese fleet, andthen somehow they lost the
japanese fleet, the americannavy.
They couldn't find them anymoreand there was talk and
speculation by some people incommand in the military, in the

(11:12):
navy, that the fleet was headingtowards pearl and we had most
of our navy station there andthat, you know, it was one of
those things that, um, you know,they were basically poo-poo,
they were basically laughed atthat they say you know, japan
wants to be our friends, here'ssome friendship medals.
But somehow they were basicallylaughed at that.
They said you know, japan wantsto be our friends, here's some

(11:33):
friendship medals, but somehowthey were still following the
strike group and they lost themin the Pacific.
And at that point in timepeople were, you know, people
were saying that these peoplewho were predicting this, who
said this was going to happen.
These military intelligentpeople that they were crazy.
Again, you're crazy.
We lost the fleet.

(11:53):
No, no, our ships are wellprotected in Pearl and we know
how that came out in Day.
That Will Live in Infamy,december 7th 1941.
If this is nothing, the Americangovernment should just come out
and say it's nothing.
If this is a militaryapplication being used for these

(12:14):
drones, that's fine, but, likeI said, we are so far behind on
counter measures for drones it'snot even funny.
We still rely on, basically,radar detection systems from the
60s and the Cold War.
And if this is the case, andliterally, like I said, why
can't anyone just follow thesedrones?
You have police cops and it'samazing.

(12:36):
They were saying that there's amilitary base not too far away
from where these happen, butwhen they scramble helicopters,
the drones are already gone andfor some reason, like I said,
the United States government,the FFA, they can't track the
frequency of these drones.
How do you lose a SUV-sizeddrone over the sky?
And residents were saying thatif a drone was flying over their

(12:57):
head and they took a flashlightand shined it on the drones,
all the lights would go off onthe drone.
That seems a little spooky to meat times.
It seems a little strange to meat times, but you know what
this version of the UnitedStates government just wants to
tell you.
You're all fucking crazy.
No, no, no, no.

(13:18):
Listen, that big balloon thateveryone can see and everyone's
taking pictures of.
No, no, no, no, no, that'snothing.
That's not a Chinese spyballoon going over our military
bases extremely slow that wecould have shot down numerous
times.
No, no, no, no, no.
But I love it because this isour United States government.
Those drones are manned aircraft.
Okay, so it's easy to provethat they are manned aircraft.

(13:42):
Why are there so many sightingsthen?
Why is there so muchmisinformation?
You kind of have to have thisfeeling that if they are going
out over the ocean, they'relanding somewhere in the ocean.
And these drones, if you take alook at them, they are these
large drones and they have thesetails.
They're right.

(14:06):
50 of the drones, are saying,came in from the ocean.
At least 12 were trailed byUnited States Coast Guard ships,
so they came out from over theocean.
This was on Sunday night.
They're reporting that a47-foot Coast Guard boat

(14:26):
basically tracked another 50drones coming in onto the land
from the ocean.
This was coming in from NewJersey Representative Chris
Smith, who has been therepresentative for New Jersey
for years, even since I was inhigh school.
Authorities did confirm, though, that the drones were not
coming from local military bases, but for some, they're coming
in from over the ocean.

(14:46):
In addition, we were told bythe Coast Guard that there's a
44 ship, and the 47-foot ship inthe ocean was trailed by about
12 to 30 drones.
That's pretty serious that youhave drones trailing US Coast
Guard cutters.
There is, like I said, it usedto be McGuire, it used to be

(15:08):
Dick's Air Base.
Now it's, now it's.
It used to be McGuire's, but itused to be McGuire's, and it
was McGuire's Dix, and now it'sMcGuire's Dix, lakehurst.
It's, there's.
There is a base right there,and they ask why can't military
authorities just shoot thesethings down?
And, like I said, but we havebeen told quite vehemently,
these are not something's got togive, something's got to give

(15:37):
with this and some informationhas to go out.
Kaylin Clark of the WNBA theWNBA is one of the biggest jokes
in the world.
It really is, and I'm nottrying to be mean, I'm not
trying to be facetious, I'm nottrying to be hurtful, but if you
ever watched the WNBA, it's attimes unwatchable.

(15:59):
Angel Reese has come out andsaid hey, listen, you know what?
They're not just here to seeone person, they're here to see
me too.
They're here to see you grabthree offensive rebounds in a
row, angel, that are all offyour own misses.
I would rather watch highschool JV basketball boys, high
school JV basketball than watchthe WNBA.
I tried to watch it.

(16:20):
I tried to watch all sports Idid.
But now Kayla Clark is comingout talking about her white
privilege and how she is theTimes Athlete of the Year and
how her white privilege isshowing and how the WNBA was
built off the backs of blackplayers.

(16:42):
Oh my God, when is the wokeismgoing to end?
I mean, this is literally sosad.
You have a player who has comein and revitalized the WNBA.
The WNBA most people do not knowis subsidized by the NBA, by
NBA owners.

(17:03):
This league loses millions.
I think last year, even withKaitlyn Clark, it still lost
like $300 million and theplayers are complaining that
they only make like $87,000 ayear, that they should be paying
a fair share, like theirbrethren in the NBA.
How it's all.

(17:23):
How it's all about revenue andrevenue sharing.
Well, that's a great pointbecause if you break down the
revenue that the WNBA makescompared to the money that they
lose and divide that by thenumber of players in the league,
you should be paid.
I believe the number was Ithink we figured it out like

(17:47):
negative $67,000 a year becauseyou don't bring in any money and
you finally have a player thatcomes in.
It's a Larry Bird moment.
Some people compare the LarryBird Magic Johnson coming to the
league to the Angel Reese andKaitlyn Clark coming to the
league.
My problem is Angel Reese is noMagic Johnson, not even close.
She's a brick-a-thon.

(18:08):
But instead you have peoplethat are attacking Kaitlyn Clark
for getting press.
She only won the Rookie of theYear.
She only put up record numbersof stats, but that's okay.
She has been a pariah by someof her African-American
teammates and competitors, sonow she's got to come out and

(18:30):
apologize to Time Magazine forbeing white.
Wow, you finally have someonethat's bringing attention to the
league.
You finally have someone that'sbringing fans into the seats.
Before, one of your starmarquee players was Cheryl
Miller and she was only reallywell-known.

(18:51):
She did play basketball well,but she was more known for being
Reggie Miller's sister, thegreat indiana guard.
But now you finally havesomeone to capture attention,
you let yeah, I gotta hold on,can we?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
let's listen to this, let's listen.
Yeah, you know yourannouncement for athlete of the
year like tremendous, incrediblepositive feedback.
That's what we've seen acrossthe board.
There's always going to be somenegativity and I feel like you
have had to answer morequestions than anybody about the
intersectionality of race andgender and sexuality in sport,

(19:27):
because of just who you are andyou represent the growth of this
thing.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I like sexuality in sports when it's an all-woman
sport in sports when it's anall-woman sport.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Even today, earlier today, megyn Kelly, she was
saying that you were apologizingfor your white privilege and
the fact that you wanted touplift black female athletes and
make sure that they weregetting the shine, kind of like
your pioneers were getting theshine that they deserved, and I
just want to know how you feel,pioneers?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
in a league that has never made money.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Respond to some of those criticisms when you have
to deal with something that it'sreally not your problem, Like I
feel like it's them looking ina mirror a little bit, but it
still comes down on yourshoulders.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I feel like I always have had really good perspective
on everything that's kind ofhappened in my life, whether
that's been good, whether that'sbeen bad.
And then, obviously, coming tothe WNBA, like I've said, I feel
like I've earned every singlething that's happened to me over
the course of my career.
But also, I grew up a fan ofthis league from a very young
age, like my favorite player wasMaya Moore, like I know what
this league was about and, likeI said, like it's only been

(20:29):
around 25 plus years, so I knowthere's been so many amazing
black women that have been inthis league and continuing to
uplift them I think is veryimportant and, um, that's
something I'm very aware of.
Um, and, like I said, like Itry to just be real and
authentic and, you know, sharemy truth and I think that's very
easy for me.
Like I'm very comfortable in myown skin, um, and that's kind
of been how it is my entire life.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I'm going to share my truth.
You're a fucking idiot.
Basketball I know it's going tobe shocking to people is a
predominantly sport that isplayed by African Americans.
The NBA is switching a littlebit because you've got a lot of
Europeans coming over.
So to think the fact that youhave to come in the league and
lift up black players I'm notsure if more of that's arrogance

(21:14):
or stupidity as well.
But then to apologize for beingwho you are, that makes it even
worse.
That makes it.
That makes me even more sad.
That makes me not even reallyeven want to watch the WNBA.
I, I, I, I wait, wait.
This is from Scott Jennings.
Hold on, we got to listen tothis real quick.

(21:34):
This is from CNN.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I'm not going to listen to the full two minutes.
Why is she being bullied?
Why is that wrong?
Why is she being bullied foracknowledging something that's
smart, truth and factual.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Well, a couple of things.
Number one I you know whetheryou're an athlete or anyone else
, if I hear you use the phrasemy truth, I immediately then
discount everything else you say, because there isn't my truth
or your truth, there's just thetruth.
And when you start usingphrases like that, it tells me
that your brain has beencaptured by something.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
I love it because then the woman goes.
That's not true.
That's my truth.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Really respect.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
That's not true.
Number two that's not true.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Number two.
The attention the league gotthis year was amazing, and it
was all because of her.
She is an amazing player.
The arenas were full when sheplayed in them.
The tv ratings were up when shewas arenas weren't full
television that's undeniable.
But you know, the league stilllost like 40 million dollars and
it's never made money.
And to me, when you're talkingabout having, uh, respecting
people who built something, whatdid they build?

(22:31):
A league that loses money everyyear.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
But he is, she has the capacity.
What do you mean?
What do?
They build, but that's a greatpoint.
What have they built?
A league that loses money everyyear.
I love that quote.
What have they built A leaguethat loses money every year?
That's basically what theybuilt, scott.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
What kind of a business did they build?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
The reason why it's still up and still running
whether it's losing money or notis because of these black women
.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Actually no.
The reason Zyde's up is to runbecause the NBA is using it to
attract a female fan base overto the NBA.
That's why, as businessmen,they're taking a loss on this
league.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
No.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
No, stop it.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
I was in Vicky's arena.
Who pays for?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
it.
Let me just tell you.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
It says more about the people who are getting
offended.
Stop it now.
I was in Vicky's arena.
Who pays for it?
I was in Vicky's arena.
Let me just tell you who pays,one at a time.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
It says more about the people who are getting
offended by it than her, I thinkthey're just disappointed that
she appears to have beencaptured by the woke mob.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
You don't like it.
And here's the disappointment.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
It's the white privilege.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
By being gracious, she's being gracious.
No, she has been brainwashedinto saying this because of the
fact that she wants to beaccepted in her own league.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
I feel, a little bad for her, because she's going to
learn that it will never beenough.
No matter how much of thephrasing, no matter how much of
the groveling you do, it willnever be enough for the people
in that league that hate herguts.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Why do you assume they hate her guts?
Why do they assume they hateher guts?
Why do you assume?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Why do they assume they hate her guts Because they
bullied her?
They foul her unconsciouslyWell, not unconsciously, they
fire, they foul her consciously.
I've seen some fouls against itand then her own players don't
stand up for her.
Then there was that one pointin time in her own press
conference with her ownteammates.
She was late because she wassigning autographs and the two
players that were on the podiumturned her chair the other way,

(24:21):
kaitlyn Clark's chair the otherway, because she wasn't there on
time.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Not trying to pander Because I hear the language.
It's the language of the pander.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
I hear the phrase white privilege.
Sports is the one place wherenobody on the field has any
privilege at all.
There's the point she shootsbecause she's white.
She gets the same number ofpoints as anybody else.
Sports is the great equalizer,and it just felt like to a lot
of people that she was grovelingfor no reason.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
She is groveling for acceptance.
That's all it is, and that is.
Sports is always a greatequalizer, because sports is off
talent.
Except your last name isBronnie James.
Sports is on talent alone.
That's how you're judged.
Oh, we'll always be judged inlife, and we've said it once,
we've said it before, we've saidit a million times Truth shall
always set you free.
This is Dennis.

(25:06):
Get a pile on the mad ramblingsof a Gen Xer and I'm out of
here.
You.
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Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone. This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years. And make sure to check out Seasons 1-3 of Betrayal, along with Betrayal Weekly Season 1.

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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