April 24, 2025 • 27 mins
Have you ever found yourself playing a grown-up version of hide and seek with God? In this raw and powerful episode, barber and TikTok influencer Dallas Noel opens her heart about the journey from spiritual hiding to authentic faith.
Dallas takes us through her childhood marked by maternal abandonment and paternal abuse, sharing how these experiences distorted her view of God as someone to fear rather than trust. Her rebellious teenage years eventually led her father to drop her at her biological mother's doorstep in Spokane, Washington – a place where both her greatest struggles and most profound transformation would unfold.
What sets this conversation apart is Dallas's refreshing honesty about mental health struggles within faith communities. "Mental health is a big deal," she emphasizes, "and it is a hidden thing. People don't want to talk about it." Her breakthrough came not through simple prayers but through a desperate cry to God after waking up unable to recognize herself in the mirror. The divine response she received – "Your drinking isn't the problem; your problems are the problems" – sparked a sobriety journey approaching three years.
Now running Surrendered Studios on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, where God specifically directed her, Dallas uses her barbering skills and a social media platform with over 130,000 followers to minister to hurting people. Her ministry philosophy is beautifully simple: "We are not just giving free haircuts and then saying good luck with your life. We are called to walk beside people who are still hurting, because I've been there."
Whether you're battling addiction, questioning your faith, or simply feeling like you need to hide parts of yourself from God, Dallas's story reminds us that true transformation begins with radical honesty. As host Ron Myers reminds us, "He knows what you're going through. He's got his arms open. Just walk into his arms."
Ready to quit playing hide and seek with God? Listen now and discover how coming out of hiding might be your first step toward authentic healing.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time now to get the hell out of your life.
A weekly broadcast with realpeople sharing real struggles
and offering real hope.
Today's show will encourage,inspire and empower you to face
life's challenges with a boldconfidence and renewed hope.
Now let's join our host, ronMyers.
The promoter.
Ron Meyers (00:21):
Hello, my friends, it is so good to be with you
today.
I'm excited about today'sprogram the power of faith, the
power of coming out of hiding.
Did you ever play hide and seekas a child?
Well, a lot of people areplaying hide and seek right now
in life.
They're hiding from God.
My guest was doing that inSpokane, Washington, but God was
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beginning to work in her lifeand then God told her to head to
the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
Why would she come here?
Well, she's going to tell you,but what a story she has.
We have become friends and sheis just very well loved in this
community.
Dallas, welcome to the studiosand tell us about you coming to
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the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
Dallas Barbee Noel (01:08):
This is exactly where God told us to
come.
Ron Meyers (01:12):
So what is it, Dallas, that you are going to do
here on the Mississippi GulfCoast?
Dallas Barbee Noel (01:16):
Well, I have a pretty hard background but
unfortunately it's very commonhow I grew up and what I've been
through.
But the difference is Godreally used my career to save my
life and through that I'm abarber.
I've owned and operated abarbershop in Spokane for the
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last number of years and throughthat, when I built it, I built
it about me.
I built it so I could make aname for myself, so I could make
a legacy.
But over the past couple ofyears God really broke that down
and said I want to use this tohelp other people, not just to
help you.
And over the past couple ofyears he's really just ripped my
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heart apart and shown me thatwe can use whatever we do for
work to change the trajectory ofnot only our lives but the
lives of everyone around us.
Ron Meyers (02:09):
So, dallas, what was life like before you met God?
Dallas Barbee Noel (02:13):
That's the thing Everyone always wants to
know.
Well, what was it before God?
There wasn't really a beforeGod.
He was always around.
My past was more about what Ireally knew about him and
meeting Jesus.
Right, god was always involved.
We were in and out of churches,I had praying grandparents, but
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that idea of the fear of Godwhen I was growing up was a
genuine fear.
Like I was terrified of him.
Because if we were showing upto church but then going home
and the things that werehappening behind closed doors
was happening, how could God begood?
It didn't make any sense.
Abandonment is a huge thing.
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In my life I've been without mymother since about 18 months
old and with my dad.
So being, you know, separatedor left from my mom and then
growing up with a single dad forquite some time, that was
pretty abusive.
When I was growing up thereagain, was that like well, is
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the father really good Cause Ididn't have any, you're talking
about the heavenly father.
I didn't have any visual of thatin my real life, so I never
thought of him as good.
I thought of him as someone tobe afraid of, like if you do
something wrong, a lightningbolt will come down, you know,
and I grew up with a very strongwork ethic, so it was always
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about working for him.
What can I do for him to stayout of trouble, to be good?
Obviously, at some point thatcame to a shocking halt multiple
times, just simply because wecan't work for our salvation.
We can't do that.
Ron Meyers (03:55):
Right, that's, it's called grace, isn't it?
Amen, amen.
So were you a party girl.
Dallas Barbee Noel (04:01):
I grew up in Helena, montana.
I ended up in Spokane,washington.
Because of how wild I was, itgot to a point where my dad was
on I believe his third wife andthey, they just could not
control me.
I think I was just about toturn 16 and you know, drinking
and smoking and having sex andrunning away, and I just was
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doing all the things I could doand at one point my dad looked
at me and said you look justlike her.
He was talking about mybiological mom.
I was around the same age asher when they were really
struggling.
Ron Meyers (04:39):
Was he?
Did he mean that as acompliment or as a slap?
Dallas Barbee Noel (04:41):
Absolutely not, it was, it was he was
heartbroken because to him itwas like this is happening again
.
And I'm sure, looking back,that he felt at fault, like why
can't I, I couldn't do it withyour mom, and now I can't help
you, I can't change you, I can'tfix you.
So there again was that Godthought he can't fix me, so
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he'll leave me.
And it just pounded it backinto my brain.
So I came to Spokane becausethat's where my biological mom
was, and he dropped me off onher doorstep and said well,
you've been through this and nowyou're clean and sober, so
maybe you'll be able to help her.
And I felt utterly betrayed.
Ron Meyers (05:22):
Now Dallas.
I've got to know you a littlebit and you have a very serving
heart.
It seems like you are alwaysdoing something for someone else
.
Dallas Barbee Noel (05:31):
I mean at the end of the day this is
always what I think aboutmultiple times a day.
I am saved to serve Christ andothers bottom line.
So what are the things that Ican do on a daily basis to a
show people who Jesus is and be,have the relational content
with those same people to showthem what he's done in my life?
(05:53):
We have to build a relationshipand I can do that at the
barbershop.
Ron Meyers (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I think of my story when I wasyoung and I was troubled, you
know, wild and drugs and all thekind of things you were doing.
When I began to follow Jesus,99% of my family never believed
that I really had a conversion.
Did you deal with that?
Did they say, oh, there shegoes again in one of those
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phases?
Dallas Barbee Noel (06:18):
To be honest , I'm not sure, because I never
really put a lot of importanceon that.
I've always been that kind ofgirl that well, I don't care
what anybody thinks, but insideI really did.
Ron Meyers (06:29):
And that is the point that I was getting to that
there are people listeningright now that they want to step
over into the land of theirdestiny.
They want to step over with God, but they're so worried about
what others will say here's thebest way that I can, I can think
, to explain.
Dallas Barbee Noel (06:46):
It is when I was walking out the church life
right, that stereotypicalconversion type of story that
was really hard.
It was really hard and I fellaway multiple times.
The reason is because I didn'thave a true, honest to goodness
experience with Jesus.
When that actually happened andI truly experienced him in my
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life and I met him, everythingstarted to change.
Ron Meyers (07:10):
Tell us about that.
Dallas Barbee Noel (07:12):
Well, I my life got a lot harder very
quickly when I met Jesus.
But I had been working on myrelationship with one of my
sisters I'm the oldest of 13 andshe was going to be preaching
at this mega church in Spokanewhich I had, seven years prior,
vowed to never walk into again.
I just had my son.
So I was still reallystruggling with some postpartum
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depression, a ton of anxiety,and I was drinking heavily to
try to combat that.
And I'd been walking with God,opening my Bible a little bit,
turning on a little worshipmusic here and there again, but
nothing major.
And anyway she invited me toservice and I just went oh, I
don't want to go.
But long story short, I endedup.
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I made a commitment to her andthat was part of my change in
life.
I have to say things and thenfollow through hard things.
So I said I'd go.
We were on the way there and Ibasically made one of those
deals with God where I said youhave to show up If I'm going to
go in there.
I know you can.
I've read it in the Bible wherepeople have said put the wool
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down, make it wet on top, dry onbottom.
I need it again.
I'm going to flip it over.
I want it wet on bottom, dry ontop.
So I said, god, I know you cando this and it has to be for me,
it has to be personal.
I'm not just going to take ageneralized sermon and say, yeah
, that was for me, show up.
So I mapped it out in my head.
I went right to the front ofthe church this is a big church
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and my anxiety is through theroof.
But I just wanted to focus onwhoever was in front of me on
the stage and nobody else.
So worship begins and I feltfree there in worship I could
feel the Holy spirit.
I knew I was safe and it wasnice to feel the Holy spirit
again.
We do worship and it's thechurch where you shake hands and
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say hi to your neighbor andanxiety lady.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I hate that.
Dallas Barbee Noel (09:06):
And I feel a tap on my shoulder and, oh man,
this woman, you're Dallas,aren't you?
And I said, yeah, oh man, Ineed to talk to you at the end
of service.
So there I was for 45 minutesin peril.
You know, just I probably hurther or her son or someone she
knows.
We talked after service andthis woman said she had met me
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10 years prior and wasn't evenfrom Spokane.
She was on her way through andGod stopped her on the freeway
and told her to show up at thatchurch.
She didn't know why, but assoon as she heard me singing
from four rows back, she knewthat he had sent her there for
me and she said Dallas, I knowthat you've been lost, but God
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sent me here to tell you that Istill want to use your voice.
You used to sing and it's goingto be different, but he still
wants to use your voice.
If you would just give him backyour life.
And now here we are talking ona podcast.
Right, it's my voice, it's justin a different way.
Ron Meyers (10:06):
So this lady hears you in church singing, so you're
a singer.
I didn't know that.
Yeah yeah.
Oh, we'll have to talk aboutthat later.
God stopped her on the highwayand told her to get to that
church to see you.
Dallas Barbee Noel (10:20):
It was pretty incredible.
And after having, you know,made this deal with him in the
car, if you want my life and youreally want a relationship with
me, not just go to church,dallas.
Get your life together, dallas,because that's how it is, how
it had always felt.
No, I want a relationship withyou, then show me that.
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Wow, prove it to me and make itpersonal.
And boy did he make it personal.
So I began to be part of thischurch life center and I got
really involved.
But if I'm completely honest, asI said before, most people go
oh, christian, so ticket to theperfect life?
Not true.
And I wasn't at a place where Iwas fully surrendered.
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I thought I was, but I wasn'tthere yet, right?
So I began to walk with him,opening up my Bible, studying a
lot more, trying to really forma relationship with him by
spending time with Jesus.
But I was still drinking, Istill had this anxiety, I still
had severe depression.
I didn't have an answer.
(11:30):
There wasn't.
You know, pray it away.
That's not.
That's not a thing.
Mental health is a big deal,especially in this day and age,
and it is a hidden, hidden thing.
People don't want to talk aboutit.
So I started to get real aboutthat stuff In May.
I'll be three years sober.
So there was a day in May wherewe went to my in-laws house and
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just being around groups ofpeople like that were very
uncomfortable for me and I beganto drink, drank there, went
home after we had people over,drank there I'm.
I don't even remember the night, but I'll tell you.
The next morning I woke up andI pulled myself into the
bathroom and I looked at my facein the mirror and I didn't know
who she was and I just began tocry and to scream like audibly
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screaming out.
I'd been walking back with theLord for about two years now and
I just said, god, if I wantedto kill myself, if I can't kill
myself, you keep stopping mefrom doing it.
I'm trying to drink myself tosleep, I'm trying to you know,
pills, whatever.
If I can't kill myself, you haveto kill my flesh, because it's
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all I can think about my, my son, my husband, everyone.
Would be so much better if Ijust wasn't here, if I wasn't a
problem for all these peoplearound me, like I'm doing what
the world says God wants me todo, but it's not getting better.
So the only thing I could thinkto say out loud was if I can't
kill myself, then you have tokill my flesh.
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And it was so clear.
He said your drinking isn't theproblem, your problems are the
problems.
So you have to put that alcoholdown so we can go there
together.
We'll never be able to go thereif you won't stop numbing them.
Ron Meyers (13:13):
You know, dallas, you're talking to someone out
there right now, listening Ahundred percent.
That is going through whatyou're going through.
Yes, now you're like the ladythat was on the interstate.
He pulled you in here today tobe on the mic to talk to the
person that's listening.
Dallas Barbee Noel (13:27):
You know, I can only tell people what Jesus
has done for me.
Right, every person's situationis a little bit different, but
at the end of the day, when Ireally sat down and thought
about it, I said what is onegood thing?
Name one good thing thatalcohol does in my life?
One, and at first, when I wasstill very manipulative about it
(13:48):
, right, this is always theresponse that I get when I'm
having this conversation withpeople.
Well, you know, it gives me alittle bit of courage or it
lubricates social situations.
Why in the world would I wantto pay for something to do that
for me when I know that I can dothat on my own?
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But it's going to take some work.
It is hard to get sober and tostay sober.
I promised God a year and nowwe're close to three and I won't
lie, there's been mishaps inthere.
But I will tell you, I have satin the last three years and
everybody, everybody in thisworld, has had a hard time the
last three years with everythingthat's gone on socially,
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politically, economically.
But I have faced every singleone of those things sober.
Ron Meyers (14:36):
I sense with you you don't really care what anybody
thinks.
And to compliment that, you'reso transparent, you're so honest
, and I think honesty is exactlywhat God wants nowadays.
But a lot of people hide behindwhat they're doing, but they
don't realize.
God knows what you're doing, sowhy hide around?
Dallas Barbee Noel (14:53):
Just come on come let's be.
Ron Meyers (14:54):
God knows what you're doing.
Yeah, 100%.
Why hide around?
Just come on, come, let's behonest, let's open up, let's
have some dialogue.
I try to tell people whenyou're really going into a
problem and you really need God,the first thing you have to do
is you've got to be honest,you've got to open up to God.
Dallas Barbee Noel (15:07):
He can't heal things that we are hiding.
That's it.
No, we can't.
I mean, that's the thing I know.
A lot of people see thosescriptures in the Bible and they
love to twist them up.
Well, if God already knows myprayers, then why should I pray?
Because this isn't aboutreligion, this is about
relationship.
At the end of the day, if we'renot willing to get in
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relationship with him, nothingwill change.
I promise you that.
Ron Meyers (15:32):
Della.
Something happened at ChristmasCity.
I heard a lady say oh mygoodness, that's that lady from
TikTok.
Oh Lord Meaning you.
Dallas Barbee Noel (15:40):
You're pretty big on TikTok aren't you,
I think, social media.
I have like 130,000 followerson social media.
Tiktok was a weird thing too.
I during COVID, I haddownloaded it and just thought,
oh, there's funny videos on here.
I didn't know anything about itand I found myself kind of
using it to zone out, and I, youknow, with alcohol, I noticed
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those behaviors and so I said,okay, God, delete this thing.
And I did for a really longtime and he called me back to it
.
He said I did want you onsocial media, but I want you on
it for me, not for you.
Ron Meyers (16:19):
So you're using social media, especially TikTok,
for your platform.
Dallas Barbee Noel (16:24):
Yeah, and I mean that's really all I do.
When I started it was I don't,I don't pre-film, I don't do
anything special.
When the Holy Spirit sits on meand says I need you to share
this, then I just turn it on youjust do it.
It's all raw and real.
It's not.
You know, I wish it could beprettier and cooler, but that's
not what I'm called to do.
Ron Meyers (16:44):
Don't ever wish that .
Because this younger generation, they just want somebody to be
real and you're real.
So tell us this you have aconnection with young people.
What's on the heart of theyoung people?
What are some of the situationsyou're hearing through social
media that people are goingthrough?
Dallas Barbee Noel (17:01):
You would be shocked and really my audience
is very strange on social media.
You would think, because of theway that I look, the stuff that
I deal with, the way that Ispeak, that it would be a
younger generation, but it'sreally not.
I have people from 18 to.
There is a lady that is likeone of my most hardcore
followers and she's like 72years old.
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So people can see their livesin what I'm talking about,
because all of us are dealingwith the same things.
Ron Meyers (17:28):
Listeners, you mentioned of what she looked
like.
First of all, she's just abeautiful lady.
But I do have to ask you thisIs there anywhere except your
neck and face?
On your body you don't have atattoo.
Dallas Barbee Noel (17:40):
The one thing I've always said is that I
won't ever get my stomachtattooed.
Ron Meyers (17:44):
but pretty much everywhere else has artwork we
need to quit conforming to whatthe world wants and start
becoming who God says we are.
So are you who God says you are?
Dallas Barbee Noel (17:56):
I am progressing towards that every
day.
That's kind of the biggestthing that I try to remind
myself and others.
We are not perfect.
There was only one perfect man.
I will never be perfect, but ifI'm progressing in my
relationship with Jesus andallowing the Holy Spirit to move
me and I'm not dragging himaround, we're good.
Ron Meyers (18:17):
Well, we're almost out of time.
How do people get to see someof those great videos on TikTok?
How do they find you on TikTok?
Dallas Barbee Noel (18:24):
So TikTok and Instagram.
My handle is the same, it'sdallasthebarbernoel.
You can find me on Instagram orDallas dot the barber, dot
Noelle.
All right, Noelle like yeah,noelle is my, it's my middle
name.
Yeah, and oh yeah.
Ron Meyers (18:41):
Some encouragement right now to somebody out there
listening that needs to get thehell out of their life.
Yeah, what would you?
Dallas Barbee Noel (18:47):
tell them.
You know, I know when you'restruggling.
When I was struggling, I wantedto hide all of it.
I was so ashamed of all of it.
But I can tell you and I willpromise you that there are
people that God has called towalk beside you.
None of us were meant to do anyof the stuff in life alone.
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If you look at Jesus, which heis the prime example, he had 12
amazing men around him all thetime and they were a crazy bunch
, and when they went out to dowhat they were called to do,
they did it in pairs.
We are supposed to do lifetogether, and that means the
ugly stuff and the amazing stuff.
I promise that there is peoplethat God has called to put
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directly into your life, to walkbeside you.
I know for me, our ministry atSurrendered Studios that's what
we're doing.
We're not just giving freehaircuts and then saying good
luck with your life.
We are called to walk besidepeople who are still hurting,
because I've been there.
I know what it looks like and Iam, through Christ, strong
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enough to go back into that junkwith somebody else and I will
sit there as long as it takes,until they're ready to jump out
themselves.
Ron Meyers (19:59):
When I return.
It's time to quit hiding fromGod.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're listening to Get the Hell Out of your Life
with your host, ron Myers.
Real stories, real strugglesand real hope.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
When God begins to draw us to Him, something really
strange begins to happen.
We suddenly become completelyaware of all the sin in our life
.
My name is Mark and this is theJourney I want to encourage you
today that, even though you mayfeel shame and guilt when you
think about all the bad thingsyou've done in your life, there
is no need to try to hide fromGod.
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He loves you and it's pointlessanyway.
The Psalms tell us that Godknew us before we were born,
that he laid out all the days ofour life.
In Psalm 139, david reminds usof God's perfect knowledge of
man.
He says God knows our thoughts,the words we will speak, our
comings and goings.
There is nowhere we can go tohide from him.
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And yet comings and goings.
There is nowhere we can go tohide from him.
And yet, even though he knowseverything we've ever done in
our life or will do, he stillloves us enough that he sent his
only son, jesus, to die on across and pay the penalty for
our sin so that we can be madeclean and right with God.
It's only natural to feelguilty about our sin, but God
loves us and he wants us to walkin the freedom he offers
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through a relationship withJesus.
When you do, the guilt and theshame will eventually fade away.
So don't try to hide from God.
Instead, run to Him.
Here's today's refreshing wordfrom Proverbs 3, verses 5-6.
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Trust in the Lord with all yourheart and lean not on your own
understanding.
In all your ways, acknowledgeHim and he shall direct your
paths.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You're tired of how you're living.
Well, change it.
You don't like where you'reheaded.
Ron Meyers (22:19):
My friends.
Hide and seek.
Did you play that as a child?
I did.
I loved it.
A lot of us are playing hide andseek right now.
We're hiding from God, but wedon't want anybody to seek us
because we're just wallowing inour own self-pity and we're
sitting on a pity pot thinkingthat, as Dallas said, that we'd
be better off not here.
That's not true.
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I want to encourage you todaythat God is desiring you to quit
playing hide and seek.
He has had his arms open foryou since the day you were born.
He wants his children to comeback into the family, to come
back home to him so he can helpyou, he can heal you and
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minister to you no more hiding.
He knows everything that'sgoing on and I know some of you
feel shame and you feelcondemnation, but there is no
shame, there is no condemnationin Christ.
He is total forgiveness, past,present, in the future.
So today is the day for you toquit playing hide and seek.
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Walk into the arms of yourheavenly father and let him just
love the hell out of you.
And this is what will happen.
It happened to Dallas, ithappened to me, it happened to
all my guests.
Once we unite with Jesus,there's a transformation.
Our sins are gone, the guilt isgone, and then the process of
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growing and renewing our mind,turning into the person we were
created to be, new desires, newhopes and optimism comes into
your life.
You don't know all the answers,but you have the confidence and
the trust that Jesus is goingto take care of you.
He will so.
Today I want to encourageanybody playing hide and seek
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with God.
Quit playing hide and seek.
He knows what you're goingthrough.
He's got his arms open.
Just walk into his arms and sayJesus, I am yours.
How do you get the hell out ofyour life?
Get on your knees and cry outto the Lord.
Dallas Barbee Noel (24:22):
He hears you right where you are.
Ron Meyers (24:24):
How do you get the hell out of your life?
Well, yeah, replace it withJesus.
We got to be born again, bornof the Spirit, and that's by
trusting Jesus Christ, turningfrom our sins and trusting Jesus
.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You find out about this man by the name of Jesus,
who went to the cross and gavehis life so that we will have a
life more abundantly.
And if you can receive thatlove, he will love that hell out
of you.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You trust in him and you let him love the hell right
out of you.
Ron Meyers (24:49):
How do you get the hell out of your life?
Oh gosh, jesus, jesus, jesusJesus.
Jesus is the way, the truth andthe life.
No one comes to the Fatherexcept through him.
So how do you get the hell outof your life?
Record a voice memo and emailit to me, ron, at the promoter
(25:13):
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We want to encourage you todaywith God's promise to you.
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For I know the plans I have foryou, declares the Lord.
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Plans to give you hope and thefuture.
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Now back to Ron.
Ron Meyers (26:16):
Well, friends, my time is up and I want to
encourage you to take a trip yes, a trip to the island of
tranquility.
It's peaceful and restful.
It's just you and Jesus, andyou're opening up your heart
with all your thoughts, yourconcerns, your anger, whatever
it is that's on your heart.
God wants to hear from you.
Like I said earlier, he knowswhat you're going through.
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Ron Meyers (00:21):
Hello, my friends, it is so good to be with you
today.
I'm excited about today'sprogram the power of faith, the
power of coming out of hiding.
Did you ever play hide and seekas a child?
Well, a lot of people areplaying hide and seek right now
in life.
They're hiding from God.
My guest was doing that inSpokane, Washington, but God was
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beginning to work in her lifeand then God told her to head to
the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
Why would she come here?
Well, she's going to tell you,but what a story she has.
We have become friends and sheis just very well loved in this
community.
Dallas, welcome to the studiosand tell us about you coming to
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the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
Dallas Barbee Noel (01:08):
This is exactly where God told us to
come.
Ron Meyers (01:12):
So what is it, Dallas, that you are going to do
here on the Mississippi GulfCoast?
Dallas Barbee Noel (01:16):
Well, I have a pretty hard background but
unfortunately it's very commonhow I grew up and what I've been
through.
But the difference is Godreally used my career to save my
life and through that I'm abarber.
I've owned and operated abarbershop in Spokane for the
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last number of years and throughthat, when I built it, I built
it about me.
I built it so I could make aname for myself, so I could make
a legacy.
But over the past couple ofyears God really broke that down
and said I want to use this tohelp other people, not just to
help you.
And over the past couple ofyears he's really just ripped my
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heart apart and shown me thatwe can use whatever we do for
work to change the trajectory ofnot only our lives but the
lives of everyone around us.
Ron Meyers (02:09):
So, dallas, what was life like before you met God?
Dallas Barbee Noel (02:13):
That's the thing Everyone always wants to
know.
Well, what was it before God?
There wasn't really a beforeGod.
He was always around.
My past was more about what Ireally knew about him and
meeting Jesus.
Right, god was always involved.
We were in and out of churches,I had praying grandparents, but
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that idea of the fear of Godwhen I was growing up was a
genuine fear.
Like I was terrified of him.
Because if we were showing upto church but then going home
and the things that werehappening behind closed doors
was happening, how could God begood?
It didn't make any sense.
Abandonment is a huge thing.
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In my life I've been without mymother since about 18 months
old and with my dad.
So being, you know, separatedor left from my mom and then
growing up with a single dad forquite some time, that was
pretty abusive.
When I was growing up thereagain, was that like well, is
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the father really good Cause Ididn't have any, you're talking
about the heavenly father.
I didn't have any visual of thatin my real life, so I never
thought of him as good.
I thought of him as someone tobe afraid of, like if you do
something wrong, a lightningbolt will come down, you know,
and I grew up with a very strongwork ethic, so it was always
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about working for him.
What can I do for him to stayout of trouble, to be good?
Obviously, at some point thatcame to a shocking halt multiple
times, just simply because wecan't work for our salvation.
We can't do that.
Ron Meyers (03:55):
Right, that's, it's called grace, isn't it?
Amen, amen.
So were you a party girl.
Dallas Barbee Noel (04:01):
I grew up in Helena, montana.
I ended up in Spokane,washington.
Because of how wild I was, itgot to a point where my dad was
on I believe his third wife andthey, they just could not
control me.
I think I was just about toturn 16 and you know, drinking
and smoking and having sex andrunning away, and I just was
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doing all the things I could doand at one point my dad looked
at me and said you look justlike her.
He was talking about mybiological mom.
I was around the same age asher when they were really
struggling.
Ron Meyers (04:39):
Was he?
Did he mean that as acompliment or as a slap?
Dallas Barbee Noel (04:41):
Absolutely not, it was, it was he was
heartbroken because to him itwas like this is happening again
.
And I'm sure, looking back,that he felt at fault, like why
can't I, I couldn't do it withyour mom, and now I can't help
you, I can't change you, I can'tfix you.
So there again was that Godthought he can't fix me, so
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he'll leave me.
And it just pounded it backinto my brain.
So I came to Spokane becausethat's where my biological mom
was, and he dropped me off onher doorstep and said well,
you've been through this and nowyou're clean and sober, so
maybe you'll be able to help her.
And I felt utterly betrayed.
Ron Meyers (05:22):
Now Dallas.
I've got to know you a littlebit and you have a very serving
heart.
It seems like you are alwaysdoing something for someone else
.
Dallas Barbee Noel (05:31):
I mean at the end of the day this is
always what I think aboutmultiple times a day.
I am saved to serve Christ andothers bottom line.
So what are the things that Ican do on a daily basis to a
show people who Jesus is and be,have the relational content
with those same people to showthem what he's done in my life?
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We have to build a relationshipand I can do that at the
barbershop.
Ron Meyers (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I think of my story when I wasyoung and I was troubled, you
know, wild and drugs and all thekind of things you were doing.
When I began to follow Jesus,99% of my family never believed
that I really had a conversion.
Did you deal with that?
Did they say, oh, there shegoes again in one of those
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phases?
Dallas Barbee Noel (06:18):
To be honest , I'm not sure, because I never
really put a lot of importanceon that.
I've always been that kind ofgirl that well, I don't care
what anybody thinks, but insideI really did.
Ron Meyers (06:29):
And that is the point that I was getting to that
there are people listeningright now that they want to step
over into the land of theirdestiny.
They want to step over with God, but they're so worried about
what others will say here's thebest way that I can, I can think
, to explain.
Dallas Barbee Noel (06:46):
It is when I was walking out the church life
right, that stereotypicalconversion type of story that
was really hard.
It was really hard and I fellaway multiple times.
The reason is because I didn'thave a true, honest to goodness
experience with Jesus.
When that actually happened andI truly experienced him in my
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life and I met him, everythingstarted to change.
Ron Meyers (07:10):
Tell us about that.
Dallas Barbee Noel (07:12):
Well, I my life got a lot harder very
quickly when I met Jesus.
But I had been working on myrelationship with one of my
sisters I'm the oldest of 13 andshe was going to be preaching
at this mega church in Spokanewhich I had, seven years prior,
vowed to never walk into again.
I just had my son.
So I was still reallystruggling with some postpartum
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depression, a ton of anxiety,and I was drinking heavily to
try to combat that.
And I'd been walking with God,opening my Bible a little bit,
turning on a little worshipmusic here and there again, but
nothing major.
And anyway she invited me toservice and I just went oh, I
don't want to go.
But long story short, I endedup.
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I made a commitment to her andthat was part of my change in
life.
I have to say things and thenfollow through hard things.
So I said I'd go.
We were on the way there and Ibasically made one of those
deals with God where I said youhave to show up If I'm going to
go in there.
I know you can.
I've read it in the Bible wherepeople have said put the wool
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down, make it wet on top, dry onbottom.
I need it again.
I'm going to flip it over.
I want it wet on bottom, dry ontop.
So I said, god, I know you cando this and it has to be for me,
it has to be personal.
I'm not just going to take ageneralized sermon and say, yeah
, that was for me, show up.
So I mapped it out in my head.
I went right to the front ofthe church this is a big church
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and my anxiety is through theroof.
But I just wanted to focus onwhoever was in front of me on
the stage and nobody else.
So worship begins and I feltfree there in worship I could
feel the Holy spirit.
I knew I was safe and it wasnice to feel the Holy spirit
again.
We do worship and it's thechurch where you shake hands and
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say hi to your neighbor andanxiety lady.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I hate that.
Dallas Barbee Noel (09:06):
And I feel a tap on my shoulder and, oh man,
this woman, you're Dallas,aren't you?
And I said, yeah, oh man, Ineed to talk to you at the end
of service.
So there I was for 45 minutesin peril.
You know, just I probably hurther or her son or someone she
knows.
We talked after service andthis woman said she had met me
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10 years prior and wasn't evenfrom Spokane.
She was on her way through andGod stopped her on the freeway
and told her to show up at thatchurch.
She didn't know why, but assoon as she heard me singing
from four rows back, she knewthat he had sent her there for
me and she said Dallas, I knowthat you've been lost, but God
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sent me here to tell you that Istill want to use your voice.
You used to sing and it's goingto be different, but he still
wants to use your voice.
If you would just give him backyour life.
And now here we are talking ona podcast.
Right, it's my voice, it's justin a different way.
Ron Meyers (10:06):
So this lady hears you in church singing, so you're
a singer.
I didn't know that.
Yeah yeah.
Oh, we'll have to talk aboutthat later.
God stopped her on the highwayand told her to get to that
church to see you.
Dallas Barbee Noel (10:20):
It was pretty incredible.
And after having, you know,made this deal with him in the
car, if you want my life and youreally want a relationship with
me, not just go to church,dallas.
Get your life together, dallas,because that's how it is, how
it had always felt.
No, I want a relationship withyou, then show me that.
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Wow, prove it to me and make itpersonal.
And boy did he make it personal.
So I began to be part of thischurch life center and I got
really involved.
But if I'm completely honest, asI said before, most people go
oh, christian, so ticket to theperfect life?
Not true.
And I wasn't at a place where Iwas fully surrendered.
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I thought I was, but I wasn'tthere yet, right?
So I began to walk with him,opening up my Bible, studying a
lot more, trying to really forma relationship with him by
spending time with Jesus.
But I was still drinking, Istill had this anxiety, I still
had severe depression.
I didn't have an answer.
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There wasn't.
You know, pray it away.
That's not.
That's not a thing.
Mental health is a big deal,especially in this day and age,
and it is a hidden, hidden thing.
People don't want to talk aboutit.
So I started to get real aboutthat stuff In May.
I'll be three years sober.
So there was a day in May wherewe went to my in-laws house and
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just being around groups ofpeople like that were very
uncomfortable for me and I beganto drink, drank there, went
home after we had people over,drank there I'm.
I don't even remember the night, but I'll tell you.
The next morning I woke up andI pulled myself into the
bathroom and I looked at my facein the mirror and I didn't know
who she was and I just began tocry and to scream like audibly
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screaming out.
I'd been walking back with theLord for about two years now and
I just said, god, if I wantedto kill myself, if I can't kill
myself, you keep stopping mefrom doing it.
I'm trying to drink myself tosleep, I'm trying to you know,
pills, whatever.
If I can't kill myself, you haveto kill my flesh, because it's
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all I can think about my, my son, my husband, everyone.
Would be so much better if Ijust wasn't here, if I wasn't a
problem for all these peoplearound me, like I'm doing what
the world says God wants me todo, but it's not getting better.
So the only thing I could thinkto say out loud was if I can't
kill myself, then you have tokill my flesh.
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And it was so clear.
He said your drinking isn't theproblem, your problems are the
problems.
So you have to put that alcoholdown so we can go there
together.
We'll never be able to go thereif you won't stop numbing them.
Ron Meyers (13:13):
You know, dallas, you're talking to someone out
there right now, listening Ahundred percent.
That is going through whatyou're going through.
Yes, now you're like the ladythat was on the interstate.
He pulled you in here today tobe on the mic to talk to the
person that's listening.
Dallas Barbee Noel (13:27):
You know, I can only tell people what Jesus
has done for me.
Right, every person's situationis a little bit different, but
at the end of the day, when Ireally sat down and thought
about it, I said what is onegood thing?
Name one good thing thatalcohol does in my life?
One, and at first, when I wasstill very manipulative about it
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, right, this is always theresponse that I get when I'm
having this conversation withpeople.
Well, you know, it gives me alittle bit of courage or it
lubricates social situations.
Why in the world would I wantto pay for something to do that
for me when I know that I can dothat on my own?
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But it's going to take some work.
It is hard to get sober and tostay sober.
I promised God a year and nowwe're close to three and I won't
lie, there's been mishaps inthere.
But I will tell you, I have satin the last three years and
everybody, everybody in thisworld, has had a hard time the
last three years with everythingthat's gone on socially,
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politically, economically.
But I have faced every singleone of those things sober.
Ron Meyers (14:36):
I sense with you you don't really care what anybody
thinks.
And to compliment that, you'reso transparent, you're so honest
, and I think honesty is exactlywhat God wants nowadays.
But a lot of people hide behindwhat they're doing, but they
don't realize.
God knows what you're doing, sowhy hide around?
Dallas Barbee Noel (14:53):
Just come on come let's be.
Ron Meyers (14:54):
God knows what you're doing.
Yeah, 100%.
Why hide around?
Just come on, come, let's behonest, let's open up, let's
have some dialogue.
I try to tell people whenyou're really going into a
problem and you really need God,the first thing you have to do
is you've got to be honest,you've got to open up to God.
Dallas Barbee Noel (15:07):
He can't heal things that we are hiding.
That's it.
No, we can't.
I mean, that's the thing I know.
A lot of people see thosescriptures in the Bible and they
love to twist them up.
Well, if God already knows myprayers, then why should I pray?
Because this isn't aboutreligion, this is about
relationship.
At the end of the day, if we'renot willing to get in
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relationship with him, nothingwill change.
I promise you that.
Ron Meyers (15:32):
Della.
Something happened at ChristmasCity.
I heard a lady say oh mygoodness, that's that lady from
TikTok.
Oh Lord Meaning you.
Dallas Barbee Noel (15:40):
You're pretty big on TikTok aren't you,
I think, social media.
I have like 130,000 followerson social media.
Tiktok was a weird thing too.
I during COVID, I haddownloaded it and just thought,
oh, there's funny videos on here.
I didn't know anything about itand I found myself kind of
using it to zone out, and I, youknow, with alcohol, I noticed
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those behaviors and so I said,okay, God, delete this thing.
And I did for a really longtime and he called me back to it
.
He said I did want you onsocial media, but I want you on
it for me, not for you.
Ron Meyers (16:19):
So you're using social media, especially TikTok,
for your platform.
Dallas Barbee Noel (16:24):
Yeah, and I mean that's really all I do.
When I started it was I don't,I don't pre-film, I don't do
anything special.
When the Holy Spirit sits on meand says I need you to share
this, then I just turn it on youjust do it.
It's all raw and real.
It's not.
You know, I wish it could beprettier and cooler, but that's
not what I'm called to do.
Ron Meyers (16:44):
Don't ever wish that .
Because this younger generation, they just want somebody to be
real and you're real.
So tell us this you have aconnection with young people.
What's on the heart of theyoung people?
What are some of the situationsyou're hearing through social
media that people are goingthrough?
Dallas Barbee Noel (17:01):
You would be shocked and really my audience
is very strange on social media.
You would think, because of theway that I look, the stuff that
I deal with, the way that Ispeak, that it would be a
younger generation, but it'sreally not.
I have people from 18 to.
There is a lady that is likeone of my most hardcore
followers and she's like 72years old.
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So people can see their livesin what I'm talking about,
because all of us are dealingwith the same things.
Ron Meyers (17:28):
Listeners, you mentioned of what she looked
like.
First of all, she's just abeautiful lady.
But I do have to ask you thisIs there anywhere except your
neck and face?
On your body you don't have atattoo.
Dallas Barbee Noel (17:40):
The one thing I've always said is that I
won't ever get my stomachtattooed.
Ron Meyers (17:44):
but pretty much everywhere else has artwork we
need to quit conforming to whatthe world wants and start
becoming who God says we are.
So are you who God says you are?
Dallas Barbee Noel (17:56):
I am progressing towards that every
day.
That's kind of the biggestthing that I try to remind
myself and others.
We are not perfect.
There was only one perfect man.
I will never be perfect, but ifI'm progressing in my
relationship with Jesus andallowing the Holy Spirit to move
me and I'm not dragging himaround, we're good.
Ron Meyers (18:17):
Well, we're almost out of time.
How do people get to see someof those great videos on TikTok?
How do they find you on TikTok?
Dallas Barbee Noel (18:24):
So TikTok and Instagram.
My handle is the same, it'sdallasthebarbernoel.
You can find me on Instagram orDallas dot the barber, dot
Noelle.
All right, Noelle like yeah,noelle is my, it's my middle
name.
Yeah, and oh yeah.
Ron Meyers (18:41):
Some encouragement right now to somebody out there
listening that needs to get thehell out of their life.
Yeah, what would you?
Dallas Barbee Noel (18:47):
tell them.
You know, I know when you'restruggling.
When I was struggling, I wantedto hide all of it.
I was so ashamed of all of it.
But I can tell you and I willpromise you that there are
people that God has called towalk beside you.
None of us were meant to do anyof the stuff in life alone.
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If you look at Jesus, which heis the prime example, he had 12
amazing men around him all thetime and they were a crazy bunch
, and when they went out to dowhat they were called to do,
they did it in pairs.
We are supposed to do lifetogether, and that means the
ugly stuff and the amazing stuff.
I promise that there is peoplethat God has called to put
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directly into your life, to walkbeside you.
I know for me, our ministry atSurrendered Studios that's what
we're doing.
We're not just giving freehaircuts and then saying good
luck with your life.
We are called to walk besidepeople who are still hurting,
because I've been there.
I know what it looks like and Iam, through Christ, strong
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enough to go back into that junkwith somebody else and I will
sit there as long as it takes,until they're ready to jump out
themselves.
Ron Meyers (19:59):
When I return.
It's time to quit hiding fromGod.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You're listening to Get the Hell Out of your Life
with your host, ron Myers.
Real stories, real strugglesand real hope.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
When God begins to draw us to Him, something really
strange begins to happen.
We suddenly become completelyaware of all the sin in our life
.
My name is Mark and this is theJourney I want to encourage you
today that, even though you mayfeel shame and guilt when you
think about all the bad thingsyou've done in your life, there
is no need to try to hide fromGod.
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He loves you and it's pointlessanyway.
The Psalms tell us that Godknew us before we were born,
that he laid out all the days ofour life.
In Psalm 139, david reminds usof God's perfect knowledge of
man.
He says God knows our thoughts,the words we will speak, our
comings and goings.
There is nowhere we can go tohide from him.
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And yet comings and goings.
There is nowhere we can go tohide from him.
And yet, even though he knowseverything we've ever done in
our life or will do, he stillloves us enough that he sent his
only son, jesus, to die on across and pay the penalty for
our sin so that we can be madeclean and right with God.
It's only natural to feelguilty about our sin, but God
loves us and he wants us to walkin the freedom he offers
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through a relationship withJesus.
When you do, the guilt and theshame will eventually fade away.
So don't try to hide from God.
Instead, run to Him.
Here's today's refreshing wordfrom Proverbs 3, verses 5-6.
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Trust in the Lord with all yourheart and lean not on your own
understanding.
In all your ways, acknowledgeHim and he shall direct your
paths.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You're tired of how you're living.
Well, change it.
You don't like where you'reheaded.
Ron Meyers (22:19):
My friends.
Hide and seek.
Did you play that as a child?
I did.
I loved it.
A lot of us are playing hide andseek right now.
We're hiding from God, but wedon't want anybody to seek us
because we're just wallowing inour own self-pity and we're
sitting on a pity pot thinkingthat, as Dallas said, that we'd
be better off not here.
That's not true.
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I want to encourage you todaythat God is desiring you to quit
playing hide and seek.
He has had his arms open foryou since the day you were born.
He wants his children to comeback into the family, to come
back home to him so he can helpyou, he can heal you and
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minister to you no more hiding.
He knows everything that'sgoing on and I know some of you
feel shame and you feelcondemnation, but there is no
shame, there is no condemnationin Christ.
He is total forgiveness, past,present, in the future.
So today is the day for you toquit playing hide and seek.
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Walk into the arms of yourheavenly father and let him just
love the hell out of you.
And this is what will happen.
It happened to Dallas, ithappened to me, it happened to
all my guests.
Once we unite with Jesus,there's a transformation.
Our sins are gone, the guilt isgone, and then the process of
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growing and renewing our mind,turning into the person we were
created to be, new desires, newhopes and optimism comes into
your life.
You don't know all the answers,but you have the confidence and
the trust that Jesus is goingto take care of you.
He will so.
Today I want to encourageanybody playing hide and seek
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with God.
Quit playing hide and seek.
He knows what you're goingthrough.
He's got his arms open.
Just walk into his arms and sayJesus, I am yours.
How do you get the hell out ofyour life?
Get on your knees and cry outto the Lord.
Dallas Barbee Noel (24:22):
He hears you right where you are.
Ron Meyers (24:24):
How do you get the hell out of your life?
Well, yeah, replace it withJesus.
We got to be born again, bornof the Spirit, and that's by
trusting Jesus Christ, turningfrom our sins and trusting Jesus
.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You find out about this man by the name of Jesus,
who went to the cross and gavehis life so that we will have a
life more abundantly.
And if you can receive thatlove, he will love that hell out
of you.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You trust in him and you let him love the hell right
out of you.
Ron Meyers (24:49):
How do you get the hell out of your life?
Oh gosh, jesus, jesus, jesusJesus.
Jesus is the way, the truth andthe life.
No one comes to the Fatherexcept through him.
So how do you get the hell outof your life?
Record a voice memo and emailit to me, ron, at the promoter
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dot org.
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Ron, we'll be back in a momentto wrap up today's conversation.
We want to encourage you todaywith God's promise to you.
It comes from the book ofJeremiah, chapter 29, verse 11.
For I know the plans I have foryou, declares the Lord.
(25:59):
Plans to prosper you and not toharm you.
Plans to give you hope and thefuture.
That's God's promise to youwhen you choose to commit your
plans and future to him.
Now back to Ron.
Ron Meyers (26:16):
Well, friends, my time is up and I want to
encourage you to take a trip yes, a trip to the island of
tranquility.
It's peaceful and restful.
It's just you and Jesus, andyou're opening up your heart
with all your thoughts, yourconcerns, your anger, whatever
it is that's on your heart.
God wants to hear from you.
Like I said earlier, he knowswhat you're going through.
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He just wants to love the hellout of you.
If today's program has spokento you, please share it with
someone.
It's called Get the Hell Out ofyour Life and it is available
on all podcast platforms.
Well, I'll see you next week.
In the meantime, remember thisI love you, Jesus loves you, and
when you give Jesus your heart,you not only get the hell out
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of your life, life gets good.
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