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Usama Dakdok pulls back the curtain on what he describes as the fundamental misunderstandings about Islam, drawing from his unique life experience as a Christian born and raised in Muslim-majority Egypt. With academic training in Sharia law and nearly three decades of ministry experience in America, Dakdok offers a perspective rarely heard in mainstream discourse.

The conversation takes a provocative turn as Dakdok challenges the common framing of Middle Eastern conflict as "Arab-Jewish." He argues the tension stems not from ethnic differences but from specific theological mandates within Islamic texts that position all non-Muslims—not just Jews—as targets for conversion or subjugation. His analysis of Islamic doctrine focuses on what he calls "taqiyya"—religiously-sanctioned deception that allows Muslims to appear friendly toward non-Muslims while harboring different intentions.

Through detailed textual analysis, Dakdok contrasts early Meccan verses of the Quran with later Medini verses, arguing that peaceful passages were systematically replaced by more militant instructions as Muhammad gained political power. He explains the seven pillars of Islam, with particular emphasis on jihad and its connection to afterlife rewards. The concept of guaranteed paradise for martyrdom, complete with detailed descriptions of sensual rewards, serves as motivation for militant action according to Dakdok.

The conversation concludes with his interpretation of biblical prophecy regarding end-time conflicts involving Israel. Unlike past Arab-Israeli wars featuring Egypt and Saudi Arabia, Dakdok believes the prophesied final conflict will involve Turkey and Iran—countries whose current geopolitical positioning might signal approaching fulfillment of these ancient texts. Whether you're seeking deeper understanding of Islamic theology, Middle Eastern geopolitics, or competing religious world views, this unflinching examination offers thought-provoking insights from a rarely-heard perspective.

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Usama Dakdok (00:00):
Well, my name is Yusama Dakdok.
I was born in Egypt a good 55years ago.
I grew up in a Christian homein a Muslim country.
I learned about Islam all theyears of my life, even up to
college, where I have a coupleof years studying Sharia Islamic
law, Been in America since 1991and doing the ministry of the

(00:23):
Straight Way, of Grace ministryand that is a Christian ministry
to the Muslims to help them tounderstand the truth about the
gospel, to lead them to Christ.

Ron Meyers (00:34):
Now can you give the listeners a brief overview of
the historical roots of theArab-Jewish conflict?

Usama Dakdok (00:41):
Sure sure, absolutely.
First of all, I hate to do thatbut I have to.
It is not a problem betweenArab and Jews, because when you
talk about Arabs, they areChristian Arabs, they are Jewish
Arabs and they are Muslim Arabs.
They're atheist Arabs.
So it is.
The conflict is between theMuslims and the Jews and, by the
way, it's not just between theMuslims and the Jews, it is the

(01:04):
Muslims and the people of theearth.
When I talk about the people ofthe earth, I'm talking about
all human, of all backgrounds.
So say, somebody is a gay andlesbian?
We have a problem betweenMuslims and gay and lesbian.
Somebody is a Buddhist?
We have a problem betweenMuslim and Buddhist?
We have.
It doesn't matter what youbelieve.
If you are an atheist, youdon't believe in any God.

(01:25):
There is a problem betweenMuslims and atheists because
Islam is a cult.
It's not a religion, as somepeople think.
It is a savage cult which teachto convert everybody to Islam,
even by the age of the soul, asMuhammad, the self-proclaimed
prophet of Islam, did a good1,450 years ago.

(01:47):
So the command of Allah toMuhammad is this this is the
saying of Muhammad I have beencommanded by Allah to engage in
war with people Notice he didnot say Arab or Chinese people
until they say there is no Godexcept Allah and Muhammad is a
messenger of Allah.
And that is the statement whichis called the pillar number one

(02:10):
, the pillar of shahada, whichMuslims love to repeat in every
mosque around the world, evenhere in America.
That is the shahada.
So they want everybody to keepIslam by any way, any means, if
it is by deception or even bythe edge of the sword, as it is
written throughout the pages ofthe Quran, which is a Muslim

(02:30):
people book, like the Bible forChristians.

Ron Meyers (02:34):
Well, why do they want to wipe the Jews off the
face of the earth?
Is that tied into what you justsaid?

Usama Dakdok (02:40):
Absolutely, absolutely, because obviously
they Jewish people are anothergroup, like Christians, like
everybody else, who must submitto Islam.
It is, once again, it's notjust Jews, but they hate the
Jews and hate the Christianssimply because Muhammad did
everything he can in his earlydays and when he claimed to be a

(03:00):
prophet to draw the Jews andthe Christians to believe in him
, he spoke very highly of them.
I mean, you read in the Quranwe favored the people, the Jews,
above the world.
We made them prophets and wegave them the prophethood and
the books.
And so Allah spoke very highly,or Muhammad said that Allah,

(03:20):
which is the God of Islam, spokevery highly of the Jews and the
Christians.
He spoke very highly for theChristians.
He spoke very highly for theChristians.
He spoke very highly for theidol worshiper and he praised
their gods Al-Lat and Al-Uzzaand the Manat.
These are three gods used to beworshipped by his own people in
Quraysh.
But every time he spoke highlyof all these different people

(03:43):
tried to make them believe inIslam.
It did not work.
The Jewish people know theirBible, the Christian knows their
Bible.
So obviously, when you read theQuran, you're going to read
about many stories in the Bible,like creation, adam, noah,
abraham, moses and everythingMuhammad wrote in his Quran is
wrong.
So that is when the Jews andthe Christian corrected him.

(04:03):
No, noah did not have one sonwho drowned.
No one actually lived with histhree sons and three
daughters-in-law and his wifeafter the flood.
So you got this wrong Muhammad.
Oh no, no.
No, jesus was not born under apalm tree and Jesus is not this.
Jesus did not spoke as aninfant baby.

(04:24):
Jesus did not this.
Jesus did not spoke as aninfant baby.
Jesus did not change birds madeout of clay to real birds.
He did not create birds out ofclay.
And so when the Jews and theChristians corrected Muhammad
about all the errors of hisQuran, he disliked them.
Instead of he, they believe inhim, they rejected him.
That's why there is hatred hasbeen put in the final verses of

(04:46):
the Quran, the late verses ofthe Quran, where you read about
Muhammad is commanded by Allahto perform jihad against the
Jews and the Christians, to killthe Jews and the Christians.
Now we don't hear in the media,brother Meyer, about the
killing of the Christians,because Muslims are just hoping
right now to get rid of theJewish people and then, as they

(05:08):
always say, sunday comes afterSaturday.
So today we're going to killthe Jews these are the people of
the Sabbath and tomorrow we'regoing to kill the Christians and
, believe it or not, that isexactly what they're aiming to.
The deception of Islam isbeyond our imagination that they
are here in America, pretend tolove the Christians and to love
the Americans when in reality,the hatred to the Jews is much

(05:31):
smaller than the hatred of theChristians.
As they always believe, theJewish nation is just like a
small devil, but the hatred tothe Christian is a great
statement.

Ron Meyers (05:45):
Well, I have friends that have friends who are
Muslim and they say they are thenicest, most peaceful people,
they're neighbors, we eat dinnertogether and they would never,
never want to hurt me becauseI'm a Christian.
What would you say to?

Usama Dakdok (06:00):
that All right, good point, very good point.
There is a part of thedeception of Islam.
It's called taqiyya.
What is taqiyya?
That is the word of Allah inQuran, shabtar 2 and verse 28.
And Allah stated there to thebelievers, to the Muslim
believers, do not take infidelsfor friends, rather than

(06:21):
believers.
And whoever does this so he hasnothing to do with Allah.
And then you have the wordaccept.
Exception is all over the versesof the Quran.
Accept that you should guardyourself from them cautiously.
Which means Muslim can't takeJews for friends.
Muslims can't take Christianfor friends.
Muslim can't take gay andlesbian for friends.

(06:43):
For heaven's sake, look whatthe Muslims are doing in America
.
They're united in all Americatogether, except it's unity
against America.
So you will not see any problemof Muslims holding hands with
gay and lesbian and Christianand even some of the liberal
Jews in America who are standingwith the Muslims against Israel

(07:05):
.
So what is this verse about?
Quran 228, that is the verse ofTaqiyyah that Muslims can lie
and take infidels for friends.
But if you read theinterpretation of that verse by
so-called Muslim scholars likeAl-Jalalain, the great Muslim
scholar, al-jalalain said youcan take infidels for friends

(07:26):
with your tongue, not with yourheart.
Why To protect yourself fromthem when you do not have the
upper hand?
I'll give you another verseQuran, chapter 47 and verse 35.
And in that verse Allah said donot, believers, do not be weak,
do not call for peace when youhave the upper hand.

(07:49):
Now you read the interpretationof Muslim scholars that Muslims
can take infidels for friendsand they can live in peace with
them.
And they say that is temporarypeace until the Muslims have the
upper hand.
They can practice that versewhen they are foreigners In a

(08:09):
new land when they do not haveenough people To fight for the
sake of Allah.
But when the Muslims have theright number of people and the
right amount of weapons, theymust annihilate all non-Muslim
believers.
Imagine this is not just one ortwo verses in the Quran.
That is the reality of theteaching of Allah in Islam, all

(08:33):
the early Meccan verses whichMuhammad claimed to receive from
Allah in the first 13 yearsafter he claimed to be a prophet
, between the age of 40 to theage of 53.
13 years.
I can quote you the entireverses of the Quran.
You will never see the wordjihad.
You will never see the word war.
You will never see the wordkill, you will never see blood.

(08:56):
But if I go to the last 10years of Muhammad claiming to be
a prophet and I read to you theMedini verses these are the
verses which Muhammad wrote inthe Quran After he migrated from
Mecca to Medina you will see 79verses engaging war, 26 verses
perform jihad and kill and shedblood.

(09:18):
A good example Quran 47.4.
So when you meet those whobecame infidels, strike the
necks until you have made agreat slaughter among them.
So, brother, you can read lotsof verses in the Quran nice
verses, peaceful verses.
These are early, obligatedverses and Muslims are commanded

(09:39):
to practice these verses whenthey are living in a foreign
land, when they do not have theupper hand.
But you go to Quran 9, 5, forexample, it's just, which is
known by all Muslim scholars,the verse of the sword, where
Allah said when the forbiddenmonths are passed remember now
that is the final chapter in theQuran that was written one year

(10:00):
before Muhammad died.
He was 62 years old at thattime Allah said when the
forbidden months are passed, andthese are the months where
normally all the Arabs itdoesn't matter if you're a Jew,
if you're a Christian, if you'rean Asian they practice that
verse to live in peace with oneanother Four months of every
year.
They don't kill each other.

(10:21):
Even if somebody has a right toretaliate because somebody
killed his father or his son inthe last day before the four
forbidden months, he must waitfour months.
Then he can retaliate.
So Allah said, when theforbidden months are passed.
So kill the polytheistswherever you find them and
besiege them and lay wait forthem with every kind of ambush.

(10:45):
But if they convert Islam, ifthey repent, convert Islam and
obey the Zakat and perform theprayers, leave the way free.
So the only understanding toQuran 9-5, by all the scholars
of Islam, which they renamed theverse of the sword, that people
have three options from thelast year of Muhammad's life

(11:10):
until the end of life, we willtake your women and your
children as concubines andslaves to rape them, to raise
Muslim babies, as they did in 57Muslim countries, including my
home country, egypt.
Or you convert Islam.
That verse, brother Meyer, allahusing the Quran to abrogate, to

(11:35):
cancel, to erase, to delete 124previous soft verses in the
Quran.
So this is the reality of Islam.
You will see Muslim people inthe West who maybe A do not know
jack about Islam.
They have no idea that thereare Quran verses, final word of

(11:57):
Allah, teach to kill theAmericans.
I don't care what you believe,unless you're a Muslim or B,
they are the Muslim Imams ofAmerica, the leaders of Islam in
America, the Muslim Brotherhoodof America, by the way, care,
for example, the MuslimBrotherhood of Jihadi.
Care is the Council on AmericanIslamic Relations, msa, the
Muslim Student Association andall these different Jihadi

(12:21):
organizations in America.
They love to quote early,abrogated verses in the Quran.
Why?
Because that is part of thedeception of Islam.

Ron Meyers (12:30):
Now, what do they believe?
I've heard mixed things.
When they die, when they leavethis world, when they have
practiced jihad or they broughta war to Israel, what do they
believe happens to them?

Usama Dakdok (12:42):
Well, in Islam there are seven pillars Muslim
practice.
They actually teach five ofthem and they practice two the
shahada, which is a falsewitness, because Muslim must say
I bear witness, there is no Godexcept Allah and Muhammad is a
messenger of Allah.
Well, how can you bear witnessto something you've never seen?

(13:02):
That's why, when they translatethe shahada from Arabic to
English, they actually say Ibelieve.
No, it is not.
I believe there is no Godexcept Allah, but I bear witness
.
Ashadu means I bear witness.
Now, the second pillar is theypray five times a day and, sadly
, 87% of the Muslim people allover the world do not speak

(13:24):
Arabic and they pray in theArabic language five times a day
, which means they actuallymemorize the words of their
prayer without knowing whatthey're saying.
The third pillar is the pillarof Siyam, that's fasting.
They fast the month of Ramadanevery year, which means they
will not eat all day long, butthey eat all night long.

(13:45):
And, by the way, muslimsconsume three times more food
during the month of Ramadan thanany other month of the year,
which means they're not fasting.
Fasting a day is to fast stopeating for 24 hours.
No, they just turn their day tonight and then night to day,
and here we go 12 hours allnight long, eat four or five

(14:06):
meals, so obviously that's notfasting.
Then they give zakat money theygive to the Muslims to perform
jihad with.
They call it charity, when inreality they use that money to
buy the weapon to go on waragainst Israel or to just
support those jihadi who arewilling to die for the sake of
Allah.
Then they do the pillar of hajj, and that is to visit Mecca one

(14:28):
time in your life.
And if you visit Mecca and kissthat black stone which, by the
way, it is made in the shape ofa woman vagina, so it is an idol
of fertility, and they kiss it,believe it, and when you kiss
it you receive forgiveness ofyour sin, not just the sin of
today, but the sin of the future.

(14:50):
So it will forgive your sin,past, present and future.
Then they do dawah.
What is dawah?
That's pillar number six.
That is when you tell thepeople about Islam, how
beautiful Islam is, how lovingIslam is.
And those are just the radicals,those are just the extremists
which, by the way, when you readthe Quran, the Quran is very

(15:10):
clear Allah can break the Muslimto two types true Muslim
believers and hypocrites.
And when we talk about trueMuslim believers, allah said to
them all the verses, especiallythe final word of Allah in the
Quran to kill, to perform jihad,to shed blood.
These are the believers, allyou who have believed.
When Allah said, all you whohave believed, he's not talking

(15:33):
to some weirdo hypocrite, he'stalking to the true Muslim
believers.
Those who believed performedjihad.
I Muslim believers, those whobelieved performed jihad, I'm
sorry.
Those who believed, immigratedand performed jihad for the sake
of Allah.
Quran, chapter 9, verse 20, 21.
Those are the highest degree,those are the best, those who
are the winners.

(15:53):
And Allah speak of thebelievers to be the jihadi, to
be the extreme, but in Americathey lie.
Oh, these are the radicals.
So they do dawah to helpinviting American people to
Islam.
The final one, which is the mostimportant, which is the pillar
of jihad.
You can practice the first sixpillars of Islam and when you
die, you maybe make it to heaven.

(16:15):
You maybe will not make it toheaven.
They call it the garden or theparadise in Islam.
But if you perform jihad andyou die while you perform jihad,
you have 100% guarantee you'regoing to make it to paradise and
in paradise, you'll have these72 forever versions.
These are beautiful women.

(16:37):
The Bible is very clear,brother Meyer, that in heaven
they do not marry and remain,they don't have sex.
They will be like the angels ofgod.
And, by the way, in heaventhere is no night, it's one long
day.
So how in the world muhammadcan lie and deceive all these
people?
To make them first of all saidwe're gonna go fight the romans,

(16:57):
we're gonna go fight the greeks, we're gonna fight the people
of the world and we, we're goingto kill their men and we're
going to take their women andtheir daughters as concubines
and slaves where you can havesex with them and enjoy them.
And they said oh, what if wedie?
Oh, if you die, it's evenbetter.
If you die, you're going to getto the garden and you have
these 72 forever versions.

(17:18):
So that is why Muslims love toperform jihad, love to die for
the sake of Allah to get toparadise.
Notice now in the Quran there'sa verse where Allah said O you
prophet, provoke the believersto perform jihad against the
infidels and the hypocrites.
So Allah ordered Muhammad andthe Muslim believers not only to

(17:41):
kill the infidels, Jews and theChristians and others who will
submit to Islam, but also toperform jihad against the
hypocrites.
And one may ask who are thehypocrites?
Allah said and he might knowthem these are the hypocrites.
By if you tell him come,perform jihad for the sake of
Allah.
Or contribute mean give moneytowards the jihad, because I

(18:04):
mean war costs money.
You have to pay money for thefamily of those who will die, if
they will get killed, they willsay these are the hypocrites.
If we know how to engage in war, we would have followed you.
They are closer that day toinfidelity than to believe.
So the hypocrites are theMuslims whom we call in America

(18:26):
moderate Muslims loving peacefulMuslims because they are
practicing the opposite of theteaching of Allah.
They will not kill Christiansand Jews, americans and anybody
else, and they will not givemoney towards jihad.
These are the hypocrites andthat's why Allah, in Quran,
chapter 9 and verse 73, orderedMuhammad and the Muslim

(18:49):
believers to wipe out, to killall the hypocrites, the Muslims
who do not like to practiceIslam, the Muslims who will not
perform jihad for the sake ofAllah or at least perform jihad
with their money to help theMuslims to go in war against the
infidels.
So this is the message of Islam.
Sadly, muslims other ones, whowill not perform jihad and die

(19:15):
while performing jihad in Islam,they will go to hell for a
while and then they will beremoved from hell number one to
paradise after they pay fortheir sins, whatever they did
not good in this world.
But jihadi will make itimmediately.
The first drop of blood comeout of the Muslim.
Jihadi will admit him to theparadise to be with these

(19:39):
forever versions.

Ron Meyers (19:41):
What do you see in your thoughts as you see this
war beginning?
Maybe will it get intense.
Do you think it will be over injust a short amount of time?
What's your thoughts?

Usama Dakdok (19:51):
Absolutely.
The Bible is very clear.
If this is the final war andI'm talking about the final war,
so I don't want anybody to takeme to Yusama said, because you
may have a few more years ofpeace, 10 more years of peace,
20 more years of peace, but theBible is very clear there will
be seven nations going to waragainst Israel.
Seven nations Russia will help,iran will be there.

(20:13):
It's amazing, brother Meyer, ifyou look at these major three
wars we have with Israel 1948and 1967 and 1973, in these and

(20:35):
Egypt, and when we examine thescripture to see about these
final wars, because every timewhen we have these wars in the
past, some people say here it is, it is the final war, here it
is, we're getting the end oftime.
But they were the wrong players, because the Bible did not say
that Egypt will go in war withIsrael in the final war, nor

(20:57):
Saudi Arabia will go in war withIsrael in the final war.
And in these three major warswe have in the past with Israel,
saudi Arabia and Egypt wereinvolved with weapon and people
Wait a minute.
So these were not the rightfinal war.
Yes, indeed, they were not thefinal war.
Why?
Because the Bible said Saudiwill not be in it, egypt will

(21:18):
not be in it, but the Bible saidTurkey will be in it in the
final war and Iran will be in itin the final war.
So wait a minute.
Turkey and Iran were friendswith Israel in the previous
three major wars Actually thetotal of seven wars if you want
to count the small ones as well.
So how in the world Turkey werenot involved in these wars and

(21:41):
Iran was not involved in thesemajor wars?
Because these were not theoriginal war.
But in the final war you'regoing to see Turkey is involved
in the war against Israel andyou're going to see Iran
involved in this final war.
Saudi and Egypt are out.
Turkey and Iran will be in thefinal war.
So if this is the final war,first of all, iran will not use

(22:05):
nuclear weapons.
Why?
Because it's very clear.
The Bible clearly said thatJesus is coming back to rule
from Jerusalem with his Jewishpeople.
Very important fact that out ofIsrael there will be 144,000
missionaries.
In the mind and the strength,personally I believe, of the

(22:27):
Apostle Paul.
Imagine 144,000 Christian Jewswho will become a Christian, who
will travel the world to sharethe gospel with the whole world.
After that war is going to be.
So who are the Jewish people?
If Iran uses nuclear?
If Iran has a nuclear bomb, Ipromise you they will wipe out
Israel and the neighboringcountry.

(22:50):
They don't like the Egyptians,they don't like the Saudis, they
don't like the Egyptians, theydon't like the Saudi, they don't
like the Syrians, they don'tlike I mean.
So they will drop bomb inIsrael just to wipe out Israel
and the neighboring country.
And if they use nuclear bomb,there will not be Jewish people
anymore.
But the Bible is very clearJesus coming back to rule in
Jerusalem for the thousand years.

(23:10):
So obviously the nuclear willnot be used against Israel.
But we know that there are sevennations that are going to go to
war against Israel.
Two-thirds of the people aregoing to die Worldwide.
It's going to be chaos.
It's going to be chaos.
So we know that this war iscoming.
If this is the final days,maybe this is not.
Maybe we have to wait 50 years,100 years from now to come to

(23:34):
the final word, but I personallybelieve we're very close to the
end.

Ron Meyers (23:37):
If people need more or would like more information
on your ministry, Usama, wheredo they go it?

Usama Dakdok (23:43):
is thestraightwayorg
thestraightwayorg.
They can also call 941-223-1703, and we can schedule a meeting
at any time.
We are one call away.
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