January 3, 2025 • 28 mins
My guest Musical Artist Wayburn Dean. Known for his vocal prowess in the multi-million-selling group Acappella, Wayburn’s musical ability gained him much acclaim during his 5 ½ year stint with the group. Ron and Wayburn chat about life and Wayburn offers insight on is #1 Inspirational song, "What Will Be Your Legacy".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's time now to get the hell out of your life.
A weekly broadcast with realpeople sharing real struggles
and offering real hope.
Today's show will encourage,inspire and empower you to face
life's challenges with a boldconfidence and renewed hope.
Now let's join our host, ronMyers.
The promoter.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my friends, it is so good to be with you today
.
My name is Ron Myers.
The show is called Get the HellOut of your Life.
It's real stories, realstruggles and real hope.
It's about encouraging you, andnow that 2025 is here, well,
we're going to have the bestyear ever, aren't we?
Today, let's talk about yourlegacy, but first I want you to
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reflect for a moment on thefootprints you're leaving in the
sands of time.
Your legacy isn't just what youaccomplish in your lifetime.
It's the impact you have onthose around you and the world
you shape with your presence.
It's your values, your actionsand the love and inspiration you
give to others.
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It's your values, your actionsand the love and inspiration you
give to others.
Imagine how your actions todaymight echo into the future.
Every conversation, each choice, each moment of kindness
contributes to your legacy.
Your legacy is built one day ata time, through the little
things you do, the decisions youmake and the way you treat the
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people around you.
You have the power to createchange, to inspire, to uplift.
Maybe your legacy will be afamily that grows stronger from
your love and support.
Maybe it will be a communityenriched by your contributions
or an idea that changes the waywe see the world.
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Remember, a legacy doesn'trequire grand gestures or
monumental achievements.
It's found in the simple actsof doing your best work, helping
others and standing up for whatyou believe in.
It's about staying true toyourself, even when it's
difficult, and leaving the worldjust a little bit better than
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you found it.
Think about the values thatmatter most to you.
Is it kindness, integrity,creativity, courage?
Use these as your compass,guiding you through each day
with purpose and passion.
Allow them to inspire youractions and decisions Whenever
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you have doubts or facechallenges.
Think about the story you wantto tell with your life.
Picture the people whose livesyou've touched and know that you
have already begun to write alegacy worth leaving.
You are capable ofextraordinary things.
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Embrace your uniqueness, pursueyour passions and make your
days count.
Every step you take towards alife of meaning and fulfillment
is a step towards creating alasting legacy.
My guest today, wayburn Dean,wrote a song called what Will
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your Legacy Be?
Wayburn, so glad to have you onthe phone with me.
Wayburn, what got you intowriting songs and doing music?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I guess, as my mom prayed for me, it was divine.
I do want to say that I knowthat God had a hand in the
direction of my life and it ledto music At a very, very early
age.
Come from a singing family andmy mother taught me harmony
sitting on the couch when I wasabout eight or nine years old
and I just said, oh, my goodness, this is amazing harmony.
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So I started falling in lovewith harmony and I would go to
church and I would sing only theharmony so that I could learn
it.
I just fell in love with music,the power of it, when I would
go and watch my parents sing atdifferent places and I would see
how the music would move peopleand how it would draw them
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closer to God.
And then that was the time whenI said you know, I really need
to try to hone my skills towardthis because it's powerful and
it's God driven.
And so that's how my musiccareer got its first legs.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You were part of the singing group Acapello.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I was.
For five years we traveled theglobe and were man incredibly
busy, like we were home maybesix days a month for six years.
That was in my blur years.
But yeah, we were a powerfulgroup of that who loved the Lord
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and stay together and stayfocused on the mission of music
and music ministry.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, and harmony had to be so important to you to be
a part of that group becausethere were no instruments, right
?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yes, exactly, and that's the other thing that drew
me to the group was the harmony, because, as I mentioned that,
that was very, very, verypartial in my heart and strong
in terms of what I wanted to dowith music, and harmony was
beautiful and found four guysthat were really good at it and
and stuck with it the first timethat I heard acapella, I'm
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thinking, before they sang.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
How do you sing without instruments?
But I tell you what?
That night I laughed.
It just seemed to speak to meeven more.
The words, because there was nodistraction.
I got so in touch with thewords of the songs.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, indeed, and I think that's again's, that's
another thing that really drewme and kept me there is the
power of just harmony itself.
And it's interesting thing aboutharmony when you get a perfect,
what I call a harmony lock, itmoves things that other music
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and other instruments just can'tdo.
And so those moments were manyas we traveled across the globe
and I think people may not knowthis, but singing acapella, you
have to be worried about so manydifferent things.
You have to be listening toeveryone else, you have to be
thinking about your tonation andmaking sure that it locks with
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everyone else at a certain,because it does it has some
disadvantages.
Locks with everyone else at acertain because it does it has
some disadvantages acapellamusic does.
So you've got to keep on top ofthese things in order to be
effective in the, in the harmonyworld, and I think when you do
that, you're thinking aboutharmony, you're thinking about
stage presence, you're thinkingabout who sounds closest to this
.
Well, how do I move my voice tomake this part?
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There's just a lot, but, but itwas a beautiful, beautiful time
, and harmony will never change,I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
After you left that group, you kind of you took a
break a while, didn't you?
And then you did.
Then you started your own solocareer.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I did.
I took a break from the road.
You know, I was just reallytaxed and tired and, and so I
wanted to take a break from theroad and I did.
And then, when I took a breakfrom the road, there was just
absolutely no more opportunitiesto sing, and so I didn't have
music in my life for eight yearsand I, I got to tell you those
were the most tumultuous timesin my life because I, I did not
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have music, and music is part ofwho I am.
And so, um, we got anopportunity in 2000 to invite it
down to Nashville and talkedabout some music directives with
, um, some people there, and themusic career started back up in
2000.
And, uh, man, it's been been awonderful whirlwind, and not
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only was it something that I wassupposed to be doing, it was
who I was, and it's almost liketaking away a person from who
they naturally and instinctivelyare.
So, yeah, as I look back atthat, I think I understand now
why it was so difficult, becausethe truth is, without music,
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the person who I am, a part ofwho I am, maybe most of who I am
ceases to exist, and that's adifficult time.
It really is, ron.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Wayburn.
I often ask people that aremeandering through life if you
don't become you, who will?
In fact, wayburn, years ago Iwas praying and I asked God why
is there so much evil in thisworld?
And I really felt that quietvoice inside that said, because
people haven't stepped intotheir destiny, they have not
become who I created them tobecome.
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Does that make sense, weyburn?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It does and I think it just doesn't happen.
You have to search for it and Ithink sometimes that even
causes for self-surrender.
You know when I think of thebook of Jeremiah.
The word says you will seek meand you will find me when you
seek me with your whole heart.
So, whatever it is you'reseeking, you got to find God
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first, wholly, fully, completelyand totally.
And then I think, things becomemore clear in terms of what
you're searching for and thenyou'll find who you are, you'll
find your purpose and thosethings will live themselves out
in the spirit as you seek them.
So I think you know when Ithink about myself and I think
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about my life, ron, at that time, you know, when I got off the
road, I started just doing, youknow, I was the CEO of a couple
of organizations and that wasgoing well.
I, just inside, was not happyand I could.
I could do it.
I could do it well.
But truth is it really wasn'twho I was.
And so I told my wife, I saidyou know, I think God's done
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with me with music and it's hard.
And she said no, god's not done.
She said we just have to wait,and sometimes the message is to
just wait, wait on God.
And so we are sitting on thecouch and the phone rings and
it's somebody from Nashville aswe're talking and the
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conversation started to gotoward music and, and so we're
driving to Nashville now to tryto make this happen.
And my wife writes a songcalled Wait on Me.
It's an acapella song that wason our first album.
Maybe I'll send you a MP3 of it, but it basically is my song.
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And when you wait on God andyou seek God, he reveals his
purpose to you in your life, andthat's what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That is so true and I think that's one of the hardest
things that I had to deal within life is patience.
When you wait, God's timing isperfect timing.
Have you ever had anything inlife happen that the enemy meant
to harm you but God turned itinto good?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yes, yes, I think this is a very powerful
statement.
So when I got off the roadright and I was a CEO of an
organization won't say the nameof the organization, but the
board gave me a specific designto do and to complete.
It was a five-year plan and Ihad it done in two years, I
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think, and they kind of chokedon the success a little bit.
However, there were some peoplethat didn't like what the board
had designed and that theyhired me to do and, as you know,
anytime you take a CEO into anorganization, he has his own
agenda.
You know, others may not agreewith it because it doesn't
exactly agree with what they areused to.
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That's kind of what happened.
So one of the persons that wasworking for me gathered together
a group of people in the boardafter an excellent, excellent
review of my work about a monthlater, said that they were going
to let me go and I said forwhat?
What did I?
What did I do?
They really didn't have ananswer and they said we really
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don't have to give you an answer.
So, anyway, they they let me gofrom that, and so I said what
Lord would you have of me now?
What I mean I've done what youasked me to do.
It was a ministry, by the theway.
And so about two weeks afterthat, chuck Colson you know who
Chuck Colson is oh yes, prisonFellowship.
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He was coming through our cityhere in Michigan, so his office
called and asked if we'd bewilling to do special music.
They were doing a few prisonsand tours in prisons.
If we would go in, we said,sure, you're Chuck Colson, are
you kidding me?
Yeah, we'll do that.
And so we did.
And the very first prison wewent to I think we did five, but
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the very first one we went to,over 50 men gave their lives to
Christ.
And so my wife and I sat out inthe parking lot and we said
what is God saying to us?
I mean, we're traveling acrossthe country this was after that,
we're traveling and so we'retraveling across the country and
, man, these men are hungry,there's an incredible harvest.
And so we prayed about that.
And then we decided you know, Ithink God is moving us into
prison ministry with music,because there's nothing that
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moves people like music, andespecially in a depressed and a
difficult place like prison,like music, and especially in a
depressed and a difficult placelike prison.
So we prayed about it and wedecided to go into prison
ministry full time.
And then we thought, wait aminute, how are we going to get
paid here?
But we decided to do that andwe've had some tremendous people
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who support us.
So we've been doing prisonministry now for 10 years, where
in our ministry we used to beon the road and if we had a
moment we would do a prisonministry.
It's just kind of flipped.
We're doing prison ministryfull time and if we have a
moment we'll do.
You know, concerts on theoutside.
You know, you never know whichdirection God would have you go.
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I mean, if he had asked mebefore then that I will you be
doing prison ministry, or if youtold me, I'd say you're crazy.
But man, what an incredible,incredible journey.
Prison ministry has beenUnbelievable.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know, I told someone just a little bit ago
actually they did an interview.
I had a book that came out, thePromoter and I said you know,
the amazing thing about walkingin your purpose, everything that
I'm doing now I never knew Icould do, I never knew I would
do it, and everything that Ithought I was going to do, I'm
not doing it.
And if that door wouldn't haveclosed with that nonprofit, you
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wouldn't have probably went intoprison, ministry, Is that
correct?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
That's absolutely right and there's no way I could
have.
I could have seen that.
There's no possible way.
I could have known that thatwas coming.
So it's God.
God directed and you know, theword says it's not in men to
direct his own steps.
We don't even have that.
I mean, I think we think we dooften, but it's God who directs
our steps and our path and Ithink when we, when we yield to
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that because it was, it wasscary.
I'm telling you it's scarythinking about going into prison
ministry and exposing not onlymy life but my purpose and
everything to something asdangerous as prison.
It has been anything but what Ithought.
And one of my philosophies inlife is that we are molded and
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shaped by our experiences andthey often determine our
perception.
And that's exactly whathappened.
My experiences determined mynow perception, because what I
had, the perceptions I hadinitially, were just absolutely
wrong.
But man, it's just beenbeautiful to watch.
And the cool thing about prisonministry is I get to see what
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Jesus saw.
You know we always talk aboutJesus and the broken and how he
loved them.
I get to see it and I know why.
Now I see it, I experience it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And so my perceptions of prison is completely
different, because now I havethe truth, the future is, and
they have divinely tuned in totoday's broadcast and looking
for some hope.
What would Weyburn Dean givethem in the way of some hope?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, two things wait and trust, because the problem
with when there is a problem isthat we want answers right now
and sometimes God doesn't havethose answers for you right now.
There's a waiting timesometimes and in that waiting
time here's the most difficultpiece is the trust and trusting
that God will give you an answerfor what you need.
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But keep those two things inmind because, remember, god says
I know every hair on your head,I provide for the sparrow and
I'm not going to forget you.
And if you can think about yourown life, if you have children
or your father or your mother,the truth is you love them so
much you would never, ever leavethem hungry or broken forever.
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And God is the same way.
So sometimes we just have towait and oftentimes we have to
trust and when we do thosethings and put those two
together and live throughout,that the answers come.
And they usually come at a timewhen you're not expected,
oftentimes because God doesn'twork really on our timeline.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So well put.
Now, the song that reallytouched me in 2004 was what Will
your Legacy Be?
And my whole ministry in over20 years on radio has always
been about finding your purpose,your destiny in life.
Because you are having fun, Imean, I always say that's the
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fountain of youth.
When you know why you were born, you know that song was
powerful.
Now did you write the words tothat song?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
My wife is an incredible gifted lyricist.
My wife is an incredible giftedlyricist and my wife wrote
those lyrics and she writes 98percent of all of our songs.
We have eight albums, by theway now, and she writes all of
our songs.
She wrote that and I was ableto come up with the melody and
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the arrangement and those kindsof things.
But so it was.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It was a collaboration my wife and I the
first time, when you put themelody and you started singing
those words, what was goingthrough your head?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I had no idea that God would use it the way he did.
You know, when you're puttingtogether an album you're
thinking about the wholecollection of the record this
specific song made.
It made its way to the top of amelody idea in my mind, in my
heart, and we began to prayabout it.
And as I look back now I knowwhy it was actually number one
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on the inspirational chart.
But when I think about how thesong came together, you know it
was a perfect storm because ourcountry at that time were going
through a time of anintrospective look.
We were looking at what are thethings in life that we need to
be God, what would you have ofme, what are my friends, my
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family and, most importantly,what would you say, what I've
done with my time on this earth?
And that kind of directed thesong's purpose and the direction
of the song.
That idea was where it camefrom.
What will be your legacy?
Kind of challenging, kind ofconvicting.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
God isn't finished with you, Wayburn, but what is
the legacy that you want toleave with this world?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
that you want to leave with this world.
Well, you know, I hope thelegacy that I leave will be one
that people can say I was movedby the gift of one individual or
this individual that Godallowed to be on this earth.
I hope that when I get toheaven, that God can say I'm
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proud of you, son.
I gave you a gift.
You used it to my glory.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Friends, when I return, I have a story for you
Finding peace within a journeyof self-forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You're listening to Get the Hell Out of your Life
with your host, ron Myers.
Real stories, real strugglesand real hope.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
You know, if you take a really good long look at
yourself, you may come to theconclusion that you are not all
that and a bag of chips.
My name is Mark and this is theJourney.
We all have faults and if weare truthfully honest with
ourselves, it should give uscause to realize there's no
reason for us to be proud.
God doesn't like pride.
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In fact, in Mark, chapter 7,pride is listed as one of the
evil things which defile a man.
But there is encouragement inbeing humble.
Psalm 149 tells us this thatGod takes pleasure in His people
.
But read on in verse 4, he willbeautify the humble with
salvation.
Zephaniah 17 tells us that Godrejoices over us, his people,
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those who trust in him and lookto him for salvation.
We can't do anything apart fromGod.
Think about it.
It's he who created the worldwe live in.
It is he who knit you togetherin the womb of your mother and
gave you breath to breathe.
It is he who came to earth as aman, gave His life on the cross
, was raised from the dead andnow lives in our heart.
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It is he who gave you thetalents and abilities you
possess and enables you to getup every day and take care of
yourself and your family.
Paul reminds us in Galatians,chapter 6, but far be it from me
to boast except in the cross ofour Lord your family.
Paul reminds us in Galatians,chapter 6, but far be it from me
to boast except in the cross ofour Lord Jesus Christ.
So if you want to take pride inanything, take pride in the
fact that Jesus made it possiblefor you to have a relationship
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with Almighty God and beencouraged that the Lord takes
pleasure in you, his people,like a loving father who looks
at his child with a smile andsays I love you.
The Journey.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Here's a refreshing word from the book of Ephesians,
chapter 5, verse 8.
For you were once darkness, butnow you are light in the Lord.
Walk as children of light.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You're sick of feeling let down and you want to
turn your life around If youwant to start living right get
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the hell out of your life.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Get the hell out of your life.
It was a brisk autumn morningand Emily sat on her porch,
wrapped in a warm blanket andsipping on a steaming cup of
coffee.
The world around her was quiet,but her mind was a storm of
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thoughts, filled with self-doubtand regret.
She reflected on the past fewmonths of difficult decisions
and perceived failures.
Her own harsh judgments weighedheavily on her heart.
Emily had always been hertoughest critic, setting
impossibly high standards forherself and berating her
perceived shortcomings.
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Her inner voice whispered harshwords that no one else heard,
words that chipped away at herself-worth.
But today, on this peacefulmorning, emily decided that she
was ready for a change, a changethat she knew would only come
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from above.
With a deep breath, emily closedher eyes and began to pray,
something she hadn't truly donein a long time.
She needed guidance, strengthand, most of all, forgiveness.
Jesus, she whispered, help me,forgive myself.
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As she prayed, emily allowedherself to feel the presence of
Jesus, his love, a warm,comforting glow in her heart.
She imagined his gentle voicespeaking to her Emily, my love
for you is unconditional.
Let go of your harsh judgmentsand embrace my forgiveness.
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Tears welled up in Emily's eyesas she felt unburdened, the
weight of her self-criticismslowly lifting, she realized she
had been holding onto hurt andfear for far too long.
In that moment of stillness,she accepted Jesus' invitation
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to forgive herself and to allowhis love to heal her wounds.
With newfound clarity, emilymade a promise to herself to be
kinder, more compassionate, andto remember that no mistake was
too big for the forgiveness fromJesus.
She knew the journey towardsself-love wouldn't be without
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challenges, but she feltequipped with a powerful ally
unconditional love.
That morning, peace had foundits way to Emily's heart.
She looked out at the vibrantfall leaves fluttering gently to
the ground and whispered asilent thank you, knowing she
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was not alone.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Ron, we'll be back in a moment to wrap up today's
conversation.
We want to encourage you todaywith God's promise to you.
It comes from the book ofJeremiah, chapter 29, verse 11.
For I know the plans I have foryou, declares the Lord.
Plans to prosper you and not toharm you.
Plans to give you hope and afuture.
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That's God's promise to youwhen you choose to commit your
plans and future to Him Now backto Ron.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, friends, my time is up.
And a final thought for todaytrust in the plan.
Yes, life can be challengingand full of unexpected turns,
but remember you're not alone.
God has a plan for you, a planthat's filled with hope and a
future, even when the path seemsunclear.
Trust that every twist and turnis leading you to where you're
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meant to be.
Keep the faith, Keep moving andknowing that brighter days are
ahead.
Don't give up.
Your journey is guided by theloving hand of Jesus.
Check out my other podcast onmy website, thepromoterorg.
Maybe you should considersharing your story with the
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world.
Until next week, this is RonMyers, reminding you that I love
you, jesus loves you, and whenyou give Jesus your heart, you
not only get the hell out ofyour life, life gets fun.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
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Today's show will encourage,inspire and empower you to face
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Now let's join our host, ronMyers.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my friends, it is so good to be with you today
.
My name is Ron Myers.
The show is called Get the HellOut of your Life.
It's real stories, realstruggles and real hope.
It's about encouraging you, andnow that 2025 is here, well,
we're going to have the bestyear ever, aren't we?
Today, let's talk about yourlegacy, but first I want you to
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reflect for a moment on thefootprints you're leaving in the
sands of time.
Your legacy isn't just what youaccomplish in your lifetime.
It's the impact you have onthose around you and the world
you shape with your presence.
It's your values, your actionsand the love and inspiration you
give to others.
(01:04):
It's your values, your actionsand the love and inspiration you
give to others.
Imagine how your actions todaymight echo into the future.
Every conversation, each choice, each moment of kindness
contributes to your legacy.
Your legacy is built one day ata time, through the little
things you do, the decisions youmake and the way you treat the
(01:28):
people around you.
You have the power to createchange, to inspire, to uplift.
Maybe your legacy will be afamily that grows stronger from
your love and support.
Maybe it will be a communityenriched by your contributions
or an idea that changes the waywe see the world.
(01:51):
Remember, a legacy doesn'trequire grand gestures or
monumental achievements.
It's found in the simple actsof doing your best work, helping
others and standing up for whatyou believe in.
It's about staying true toyourself, even when it's
difficult, and leaving the worldjust a little bit better than
(02:14):
you found it.
Think about the values thatmatter most to you.
Is it kindness, integrity,creativity, courage?
Use these as your compass,guiding you through each day
with purpose and passion.
Allow them to inspire youractions and decisions Whenever
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you have doubts or facechallenges.
Think about the story you wantto tell with your life.
Picture the people whose livesyou've touched and know that you
have already begun to write alegacy worth leaving.
You are capable ofextraordinary things.
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Embrace your uniqueness, pursueyour passions and make your
days count.
Every step you take towards alife of meaning and fulfillment
is a step towards creating alasting legacy.
My guest today, wayburn Dean,wrote a song called what Will
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your Legacy Be?
Wayburn, so glad to have you onthe phone with me.
Wayburn, what got you intowriting songs and doing music?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I guess, as my mom prayed for me, it was divine.
I do want to say that I knowthat God had a hand in the
direction of my life and it ledto music At a very, very early
age.
Come from a singing family andmy mother taught me harmony
sitting on the couch when I wasabout eight or nine years old
and I just said, oh, my goodness, this is amazing harmony.
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So I started falling in lovewith harmony and I would go to
church and I would sing only theharmony so that I could learn
it.
I just fell in love with music,the power of it, when I would
go and watch my parents sing atdifferent places and I would see
how the music would move peopleand how it would draw them
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closer to God.
And then that was the time whenI said you know, I really need
to try to hone my skills towardthis because it's powerful and
it's God driven.
And so that's how my musiccareer got its first legs.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You were part of the singing group Acapello.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I was.
For five years we traveled theglobe and were man incredibly
busy, like we were home maybesix days a month for six years.
That was in my blur years.
But yeah, we were a powerfulgroup of that who loved the Lord
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and stay together and stayfocused on the mission of music
and music ministry.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, and harmony had to be so important to you to be
a part of that group becausethere were no instruments, right
?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yes, exactly, and that's the other thing that drew
me to the group was the harmony, because, as I mentioned that,
that was very, very, verypartial in my heart and strong
in terms of what I wanted to dowith music, and harmony was
beautiful and found four guysthat were really good at it and
and stuck with it the first timethat I heard acapella, I'm
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thinking, before they sang.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
How do you sing without instruments?
But I tell you what?
That night I laughed.
It just seemed to speak to meeven more.
The words, because there was nodistraction.
I got so in touch with thewords of the songs.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, indeed, and I think that's again's, that's
another thing that really drewme and kept me there is the
power of just harmony itself.
And it's interesting thing aboutharmony when you get a perfect,
what I call a harmony lock, itmoves things that other music
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and other instruments just can'tdo.
And so those moments were manyas we traveled across the globe
and I think people may not knowthis, but singing acapella, you
have to be worried about so manydifferent things.
You have to be listening toeveryone else, you have to be
thinking about your tonation andmaking sure that it locks with
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everyone else at a certain,because it does it has some
disadvantages.
Locks with everyone else at acertain because it does it has
some disadvantages acapellamusic does.
So you've got to keep on top ofthese things in order to be
effective in the, in the harmonyworld, and I think when you do
that, you're thinking aboutharmony, you're thinking about
stage presence, you're thinkingabout who sounds closest to this
.
Well, how do I move my voice tomake this part?
(06:41):
There's just a lot, but, but itwas a beautiful, beautiful time
, and harmony will never change,I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
After you left that group, you kind of you took a
break a while, didn't you?
And then you did.
Then you started your own solocareer.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I did.
I took a break from the road.
You know, I was just reallytaxed and tired and, and so I
wanted to take a break from theroad and I did.
And then, when I took a breakfrom the road, there was just
absolutely no more opportunitiesto sing, and so I didn't have
music in my life for eight yearsand I, I got to tell you those
were the most tumultuous timesin my life because I, I did not
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have music, and music is part ofwho I am.
And so, um, we got anopportunity in 2000 to invite it
down to Nashville and talkedabout some music directives with
, um, some people there, and themusic career started back up in
2000.
And, uh, man, it's been been awonderful whirlwind, and not
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only was it something that I wassupposed to be doing, it was
who I was, and it's almost liketaking away a person from who
they naturally and instinctivelyare.
So, yeah, as I look back atthat, I think I understand now
why it was so difficult, becausethe truth is, without music,
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the person who I am, a part ofwho I am, maybe most of who I am
ceases to exist, and that's adifficult time.
It really is, ron.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Wayburn.
I often ask people that aremeandering through life if you
don't become you, who will?
In fact, wayburn, years ago Iwas praying and I asked God why
is there so much evil in thisworld?
And I really felt that quietvoice inside that said, because
people haven't stepped intotheir destiny, they have not
become who I created them tobecome.
(08:30):
Does that make sense, weyburn?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It does and I think it just doesn't happen.
You have to search for it and Ithink sometimes that even
causes for self-surrender.
You know when I think of thebook of Jeremiah.
The word says you will seek meand you will find me when you
seek me with your whole heart.
So, whatever it is you'reseeking, you got to find God
(08:55):
first, wholly, fully, completelyand totally.
And then I think, things becomemore clear in terms of what
you're searching for and thenyou'll find who you are, you'll
find your purpose and thosethings will live themselves out
in the spirit as you seek them.
So I think you know when Ithink about myself and I think
(09:16):
about my life, ron, at that time, you know, when I got off the
road, I started just doing, youknow, I was the CEO of a couple
of organizations and that wasgoing well.
I, just inside, was not happyand I could.
I could do it.
I could do it well.
But truth is it really wasn'twho I was.
And so I told my wife, I saidyou know, I think God's done
(09:38):
with me with music and it's hard.
And she said no, god's not done.
She said we just have to wait,and sometimes the message is to
just wait, wait on God.
And so we are sitting on thecouch and the phone rings and
it's somebody from Nashville aswe're talking and the
(09:59):
conversation started to gotoward music and, and so we're
driving to Nashville now to tryto make this happen.
And my wife writes a songcalled Wait on Me.
It's an acapella song that wason our first album.
Maybe I'll send you a MP3 of it, but it basically is my song.
(10:22):
And when you wait on God andyou seek God, he reveals his
purpose to you in your life, andthat's what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That is so true and I think that's one of the hardest
things that I had to deal within life is patience.
When you wait, God's timing isperfect timing.
Have you ever had anything inlife happen that the enemy meant
to harm you but God turned itinto good?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yes, yes, I think this is a very powerful
statement.
So when I got off the roadright and I was a CEO of an
organization won't say the nameof the organization, but the
board gave me a specific designto do and to complete.
It was a five-year plan and Ihad it done in two years, I
(11:09):
think, and they kind of chokedon the success a little bit.
However, there were some peoplethat didn't like what the board
had designed and that theyhired me to do and, as you know,
anytime you take a CEO into anorganization, he has his own
agenda.
You know, others may not agreewith it because it doesn't
exactly agree with what they areused to.
(11:31):
That's kind of what happened.
So one of the persons that wasworking for me gathered together
a group of people in the boardafter an excellent, excellent
review of my work about a monthlater, said that they were going
to let me go and I said forwhat?
What did I?
What did I do?
They really didn't have ananswer and they said we really
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don't have to give you an answer.
So, anyway, they they let me gofrom that, and so I said what
Lord would you have of me now?
What I mean I've done what youasked me to do.
It was a ministry, by the theway.
And so about two weeks afterthat, chuck Colson you know who
Chuck Colson is oh yes, prisonFellowship.
(12:13):
He was coming through our cityhere in Michigan, so his office
called and asked if we'd bewilling to do special music.
They were doing a few prisonsand tours in prisons.
If we would go in, we said,sure, you're Chuck Colson, are
you kidding me?
Yeah, we'll do that.
And so we did.
And the very first prison wewent to I think we did five, but
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the very first one we went to,over 50 men gave their lives to
Christ.
And so my wife and I sat out inthe parking lot and we said
what is God saying to us?
I mean, we're traveling acrossthe country this was after that,
we're traveling and so we'retraveling across the country and
, man, these men are hungry,there's an incredible harvest.
And so we prayed about that.
And then we decided you know, Ithink God is moving us into
prison ministry with music,because there's nothing that
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moves people like music, andespecially in a depressed and a
difficult place like prison,like music, and especially in a
depressed and a difficult placelike prison.
So we prayed about it and wedecided to go into prison
ministry full time.
And then we thought, wait aminute, how are we going to get
paid here?
But we decided to do that andwe've had some tremendous people
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who support us.
So we've been doing prisonministry now for 10 years, where
in our ministry we used to beon the road and if we had a
moment we would do a prisonministry.
It's just kind of flipped.
We're doing prison ministryfull time and if we have a
moment we'll do.
You know, concerts on theoutside.
You know, you never know whichdirection God would have you go.
(13:44):
I mean, if he had asked mebefore then that I will you be
doing prison ministry, or if youtold me, I'd say you're crazy.
But man, what an incredible,incredible journey.
Prison ministry has beenUnbelievable.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know, I told someone just a little bit ago
actually they did an interview.
I had a book that came out, thePromoter and I said you know,
the amazing thing about walkingin your purpose, everything that
I'm doing now I never knew Icould do, I never knew I would
do it, and everything that Ithought I was going to do, I'm
not doing it.
And if that door wouldn't haveclosed with that nonprofit, you
(14:24):
wouldn't have probably went intoprison, ministry, Is that
correct?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
That's absolutely right and there's no way I could
have.
I could have seen that.
There's no possible way.
I could have known that thatwas coming.
So it's God.
God directed and you know, theword says it's not in men to
direct his own steps.
We don't even have that.
I mean, I think we think we dooften, but it's God who directs
our steps and our path and Ithink when we, when we yield to
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that because it was, it wasscary.
I'm telling you it's scarythinking about going into prison
ministry and exposing not onlymy life but my purpose and
everything to something asdangerous as prison.
It has been anything but what Ithought.
And one of my philosophies inlife is that we are molded and
(15:10):
shaped by our experiences andthey often determine our
perception.
And that's exactly whathappened.
My experiences determined mynow perception, because what I
had, the perceptions I hadinitially, were just absolutely
wrong.
But man, it's just beenbeautiful to watch.
And the cool thing about prisonministry is I get to see what
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Jesus saw.
You know we always talk aboutJesus and the broken and how he
loved them.
I get to see it and I know why.
Now I see it, I experience it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And so my perceptions of prison is completely
different, because now I havethe truth, the future is, and
they have divinely tuned in totoday's broadcast and looking
for some hope.
What would Weyburn Dean givethem in the way of some hope?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, two things wait and trust, because the problem
with when there is a problem isthat we want answers right now
and sometimes God doesn't havethose answers for you right now.
There's a waiting timesometimes and in that waiting
time here's the most difficultpiece is the trust and trusting
that God will give you an answerfor what you need.
(16:38):
But keep those two things inmind because, remember, god says
I know every hair on your head,I provide for the sparrow and
I'm not going to forget you.
And if you can think about yourown life, if you have children
or your father or your mother,the truth is you love them so
much you would never, ever leavethem hungry or broken forever.
(17:02):
And God is the same way.
So sometimes we just have towait and oftentimes we have to
trust and when we do thosethings and put those two
together and live throughout,that the answers come.
And they usually come at a timewhen you're not expected,
oftentimes because God doesn'twork really on our timeline.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So well put.
Now, the song that reallytouched me in 2004 was what Will
your Legacy Be?
And my whole ministry in over20 years on radio has always
been about finding your purpose,your destiny in life.
Because you are having fun, Imean, I always say that's the
(17:47):
fountain of youth.
When you know why you were born, you know that song was
powerful.
Now did you write the words tothat song?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
My wife is an incredible gifted lyricist.
My wife is an incredible giftedlyricist and my wife wrote
those lyrics and she writes 98percent of all of our songs.
We have eight albums, by theway now, and she writes all of
our songs.
She wrote that and I was ableto come up with the melody and
(18:15):
the arrangement and those kindsof things.
But so it was.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It was a collaboration my wife and I the
first time, when you put themelody and you started singing
those words, what was goingthrough your head?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I had no idea that God would use it the way he did.
You know, when you're puttingtogether an album you're
thinking about the wholecollection of the record this
specific song made.
It made its way to the top of amelody idea in my mind, in my
heart, and we began to prayabout it.
And as I look back now I knowwhy it was actually number one
(18:49):
on the inspirational chart.
But when I think about how thesong came together, you know it
was a perfect storm because ourcountry at that time were going
through a time of anintrospective look.
We were looking at what are thethings in life that we need to
be God, what would you have ofme, what are my friends, my
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family and, most importantly,what would you say, what I've
done with my time on this earth?
And that kind of directed thesong's purpose and the direction
of the song.
That idea was where it camefrom.
What will be your legacy?
Kind of challenging, kind ofconvicting.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
God isn't finished with you, Wayburn, but what is
the legacy that you want toleave with this world?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
that you want to leave with this world.
Well, you know, I hope thelegacy that I leave will be one
that people can say I was movedby the gift of one individual or
this individual that Godallowed to be on this earth.
I hope that when I get toheaven, that God can say I'm
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proud of you, son.
I gave you a gift.
You used it to my glory.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Friends, when I return, I have a story for you
Finding peace within a journeyof self-forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You're listening to Get the Hell Out of your Life
with your host, ron Myers.
Real stories, real strugglesand real hope.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
You know, if you take a really good long look at
yourself, you may come to theconclusion that you are not all
that and a bag of chips.
My name is Mark and this is theJourney.
We all have faults and if weare truthfully honest with
ourselves, it should give uscause to realize there's no
reason for us to be proud.
God doesn't like pride.
(20:44):
In fact, in Mark, chapter 7,pride is listed as one of the
evil things which defile a man.
But there is encouragement inbeing humble.
Psalm 149 tells us this thatGod takes pleasure in His people
.
But read on in verse 4, he willbeautify the humble with
salvation.
Zephaniah 17 tells us that Godrejoices over us, his people,
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those who trust in him and lookto him for salvation.
We can't do anything apart fromGod.
Think about it.
It's he who created the worldwe live in.
It is he who knit you togetherin the womb of your mother and
gave you breath to breathe.
It is he who came to earth as aman, gave His life on the cross
, was raised from the dead andnow lives in our heart.
(21:28):
It is he who gave you thetalents and abilities you
possess and enables you to getup every day and take care of
yourself and your family.
Paul reminds us in Galatians,chapter 6, but far be it from me
to boast except in the cross ofour Lord your family.
Paul reminds us in Galatians,chapter 6, but far be it from me
to boast except in the cross ofour Lord Jesus Christ.
So if you want to take pride inanything, take pride in the
fact that Jesus made it possiblefor you to have a relationship
(21:51):
with Almighty God and beencouraged that the Lord takes
pleasure in you, his people,like a loving father who looks
at his child with a smile andsays I love you.
The Journey.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Here's a refreshing word from the book of Ephesians,
chapter 5, verse 8.
For you were once darkness, butnow you are light in the Lord.
Walk as children of light.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
You're sick of feeling let down and you want to
turn your life around If youwant to start living right get
(22:48):
the hell out of your life.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Get the hell out of your life.
It was a brisk autumn morningand Emily sat on her porch,
wrapped in a warm blanket andsipping on a steaming cup of
coffee.
The world around her was quiet,but her mind was a storm of
(23:10):
thoughts, filled with self-doubtand regret.
She reflected on the past fewmonths of difficult decisions
and perceived failures.
Her own harsh judgments weighedheavily on her heart.
Emily had always been hertoughest critic, setting
impossibly high standards forherself and berating her
perceived shortcomings.
(23:30):
Her inner voice whispered harshwords that no one else heard,
words that chipped away at herself-worth.
But today, on this peacefulmorning, emily decided that she
was ready for a change, a changethat she knew would only come
(23:50):
from above.
With a deep breath, emily closedher eyes and began to pray,
something she hadn't truly donein a long time.
She needed guidance, strengthand, most of all, forgiveness.
Jesus, she whispered, help me,forgive myself.
(24:10):
As she prayed, emily allowedherself to feel the presence of
Jesus, his love, a warm,comforting glow in her heart.
She imagined his gentle voicespeaking to her Emily, my love
for you is unconditional.
Let go of your harsh judgmentsand embrace my forgiveness.
(24:34):
Tears welled up in Emily's eyesas she felt unburdened, the
weight of her self-criticismslowly lifting, she realized she
had been holding onto hurt andfear for far too long.
In that moment of stillness,she accepted Jesus' invitation
(24:54):
to forgive herself and to allowhis love to heal her wounds.
With newfound clarity, emilymade a promise to herself to be
kinder, more compassionate, andto remember that no mistake was
too big for the forgiveness fromJesus.
She knew the journey towardsself-love wouldn't be without
(25:19):
challenges, but she feltequipped with a powerful ally
unconditional love.
That morning, peace had foundits way to Emily's heart.
She looked out at the vibrantfall leaves fluttering gently to
the ground and whispered asilent thank you, knowing she
(25:44):
was not alone.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Ron, we'll be back in a moment to wrap up today's
conversation.
We want to encourage you todaywith God's promise to you.
It comes from the book ofJeremiah, chapter 29, verse 11.
For I know the plans I have foryou, declares the Lord.
Plans to prosper you and not toharm you.
Plans to give you hope and afuture.
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That's God's promise to youwhen you choose to commit your
plans and future to Him Now backto Ron.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, friends, my time is up.
And a final thought for todaytrust in the plan.
Yes, life can be challengingand full of unexpected turns,
but remember you're not alone.
God has a plan for you, a planthat's filled with hope and a
future, even when the path seemsunclear.
Trust that every twist and turnis leading you to where you're
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meant to be.
Keep the faith, Keep moving andknowing that brighter days are
ahead.
Don't give up.
Your journey is guided by theloving hand of Jesus.
Check out my other podcast onmy website, thepromoterorg.
Maybe you should considersharing your story with the
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world.
Until next week, this is RonMyers, reminding you that I love
you, jesus loves you, and whenyou give Jesus your heart, you
not only get the hell out ofyour life, life gets fun.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Today's show was produced by Ron Myers Ministries
, a listener-supported ministry.
For a copy of today's broadcast, please visit our website,
thepromoterorg, and would youprayerfully consider making a
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And join us next week foranother broadcast of Get the
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