136 - Tyler Cole (DJ Take2) - Your Race, Your Pace

In this episode, I sit down with DJ and endurance athlete Tyler — known as DJ Take 2 — for one of the most grounded and real conversations I’ve had in a while. We explore the beauty of starting small, pushing our limits, and realizing that most of the barriers we face are self-made.

Tyler shares stories from his winding journey as a DJ, his first triathlon podium finish, and the lessons learned from showing up to races where he felt like an outsider. 

We dive deep into what it means to embrace the process — whether it’s standing behind the decks at a wedding, training for an ultra, or hitting mile 31 with nothing left but willpower and gratitude.

This one’s for anyone who’s ever doubted their potential. It’s a reminder that the most fulfilling paths often begin with nothing more than a scared yes — and that with patience, discipline, and a touch of humor, we can go further than we thought possible.

Key takeaways:

• Why taking imperfect action often matters more than being “ready.”
• How endurance sports can teach you to embrace discomfort and find your edge.
• The surprising power of gratitude when things get hard.
• Why patience and humility will take you further than raw talent ever could.
• How leaning on community can keep you moving when you want to quit.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is super rare, because nine times out of ten,
or like 9.5 times out of ten, Inever get to see my couples
after I DJ for them, like ontheir way.
I never get to see them everagain.
So this is great it was.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, that night was probably honestly one of the
best nights of my life, and Imean the reason being the music
fueled the dance party and Ican't tell you how many times
people are just like.
That was honestly one of themost fun parties I went to.
Yes, the icing on the cake.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's the way we want it.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Dude, it was amazing.
You're a talented DJ.
And my favorite story aboutthat is when I came up and I was
like you got to introduce mymom as as the business bitch and
you're like, are you sure, like, really like I don't know about
that?
And, um, yeah, she loved it.
But yeah, man, no, it's cool, Imean yeah, I appreciate you
coming on and and chatting, it'suh thanks for having me, man.

(01:02):
Oh yeah, I'm excited but yeah, Imean your real name is tyler,
but I know you as dj take two.
So yes, um yeah, curious whereyou got that name.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I kind of want to kick it off with that oh man, um
, long story, I'll spare you allthe details.
But I had a different DJ namebefore this, um, before take two
, and um, when I wanted to geton the radio, um, there was
another guy with like the samename, different spelling type of

(01:39):
thing, um, and I thought Icould get on, but the program
director at the time was likethere's no way I'm letting you
on the radio with that name.
So this was my second take at aDJ name.
So it was just, it ended upbeing take two and I continue.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's a.
It's funny how things happenand like they just stick.
But no, I love that.
That's awesome man.
So you, you started doing aradio show.
You were on the radio first Iwas.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I was an intern at the radio station and then, um,
after an internship, I was ableto hop on the radio and be with
a couple different people.
I just dj'd.
There were different peoplethat like talked and hosted and
things like that, but I dj'd andgot a chance to do it for, oh
gosh, I don't know, that waslike the start of my career.

(02:28):
I want to say at least four orfive years or so on the radio.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It was really good that's a nice little run yeah, I
mean so is that always likewhat you wanted to do, like just
, you've had a love for musicand just wanted to see what you
can do in that route?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, Really Okay.
It really wasn't.
I wish I had one of those coolstories where it was like music
was always just I really don't.
I wanted to be a footballplayer so bad and I went to
college to play football and itjust didn't work out that way
and when I stopped playingfootball, I I literally I was

(03:07):
like I need something to do.
I was kind of the locker roomDJ and I played music for a
bunch of my friends my olderbrother was a DJ like music was
always around, but that's notsomething that I really wanted
to do.
So when I stopped playingfootball, I was just like I need
something to do and one of theguys, um, and the football team

(03:28):
was like you should, you shouldDJ at like one of the clubs that
we have out here.
I was in Kansas, I was inmiddle of nowhere, kansas and
the guy was like that's crazy.
It was.
It was insane.
It was like a country bar.
Nine times out of 10, like sixdays out of the week.
It was country bar, but onSaturdays they were like we can

(03:50):
play anything and I wanted to DJ.
On Saturday.
I was like cool, I'll playanything.
And it was all the footballguys that were like you have to
DJ for us so we can like party.
So that's what it ended upbeing Like.
I bought my first piece ofequipment like that same year
and then I was just like, allright, I'm just going to try
this DJ thing.
So I started playing music andit just turned into something.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No, I love that man.
I mean, I think it's likethere's so many things that
happen in life where it's likelittle opportunities, like that
you know where you, you startand try something and it leads
to a whole you know career downthe road.
Like who knows, um, if youdidn't take the DJ route, who
knows what you'd be doing now,like maybe, maybe still radio,
but um, I mean, I like I thinkyou know you're probably doing

(04:37):
something you you enjoy and II've seen you you DJ, like the
diamondbacks games now, and Ithink I correct me if I'm wrong
but the suns too, if I'm I'm notmistaken I've dj'd a couple
events for the suns and stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
They've had a bunch of changes in in management and
everything, so uh, not too muchanymore.
But yeah, I've done a coupleevents for the suns, uh, the
cardinals as well, um, in alumniprogram, but yeah, mainly for
the Diamondbacks now.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, that's cool man .
Well, yeah, I know I sent you acouple of questions over just
before we began recording andthat kind of stuff.
But one thing that I know issomething a lot of people
struggle with, myself included.
I would love to, you know, takegetting after and make it a
business.
Business, and my wife and Iwere actually working to do that

(05:28):
a little bit.
We're trying to rebrand um someof the things and and create
some content together, but um,you're doing it.
trying man, yeah, but like it's,it's a scary leap to uh to try
and, and one, put yourself outthere.
But then, two, like you,started a, a business where you
DJ weddings and other events and, um, I'm sure that was scary

(05:49):
and I don't know if you had kidsat the time.
But uh, maybe just walk methrough what you know, your
thought process during the time,some of the feelings you had
and and and how you did it,because I think that's one of
the biggest areas that peoplecan get after it is you know,
I'm going to take a chance onmyself.
I'm going to take a chance onmyself.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'm going to see if I can do this and and see what
doors it opens up.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's.
It's always a risk and you'realways like, is this the right
decision?
And you know, am I moving inthe right direction or am I just
like doing something stupid,right?
So it's always challenging andI think it's I don't know for

(06:31):
anybody out there that's like,should I do this, should I take
a risk?
Even you, it's.
It's never 100%, I think.
Even still to this day, I'malways like am I doing the right
thing?
Am I in the right field?
Am I, you know, going after itor getting after it the right
way Right?
Am I?
Am I doing the right things totake the next steps?
Right?
Or how far even can I take this?
Like, I think about that allthe time.

(06:52):
How far can I DJ?
Am I going to DJ till I'm ahundred?
Like, is this the right thing?
So I think taking that leap wasmore so a push than it was a
leap and I just I ended upfalling into it.
The same way, I fell into DJingwhere it was like, okay, we need
more from you.
That was like weddings, thatwas the Diamondbacks, that was

(07:22):
anybody and everybody that wasasking me to do things, and you
know that I put myself in thoseplaces, but they were like we
need more from you.
So it kind of forced me to takethe leap more.
So it did then, just for me tojump on my own and be like all
right, let me figure thesethings out.
It kind of just fell into placefor me and I know that always
that doesn't always happen, butfor me it just started to fall

(07:43):
into place.
I don't have everythingtogether, but it was more.
So like, okay, you need morefor me, what more can I do in
this direction and how can Idefine my craft after that?
But I want to say I, you know Igot pushed into it before I was
ready, even, and I just startedfinding my footing from there.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, no, I love that and I think that's like that's
a very common thing that I hearfrom other people who have
started their own businesses orwho are like looking to make a
career change or something likethat.
Even in running and coaching,you know there's people who say,
oh man, well, I'm not a runner,like I want to run a half
marathon.
And every year we try and getpeople to run for my, my wife's

(08:23):
dad, who uh passed away fromcancer, and we run, uh every
year for him which, by the way,I'm going to be hitting you up
for uh, yeah, like it's.
Uh, it's always kind of scaryand you kind of sometimes just
need that push Uh, and fromthere just learn, like what you
said, like okay, well, this isthe situation I'm in, like what

(08:46):
else can I give, what else can Ido?
How can I give more of myselfto this craft and to ultimately
make it either a career or justlike you know, a really
efficient side hustle, which Iknow is not your thing, but it
could be for someone else.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, absolutely, you and your wife are so efficient
in what you do though someoneelse.
Yeah, absolutely, you and yourwife are so efficient in what
you do, though, like, even fromthe outside, looking in, it's
like the second.
I even met you guys.
Um was like, oh, I'm in a pilotand I was like, excuse me, like
the things that you guys weredoing in the course that you
were on, like it just seemedlike you guys had it all

(09:23):
together and I just I thinkthat's always the common
misperception was like thisperson has it all together and
they are just you know, theythey got it all.
How can I do that, right, yeah,um, and I don't think that's it
.
I don't.
I think we're all just heretrying to figure it out step by
step Absolutely Well, Iappreciate you saying that.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I can't confirm.
You know, we're in the sameboat, just trying to figure out
life and everything like that.
So, um, it is interesting likeI know social media has played a
little bit of a role in thatwith like comparison, and you
know, you see everyone'shighlight reels and that kind of
thing and and get toughsometimes, um, especially like
if you're not where you want tobe, um, but you know, you know
it's that's the thing iscomparison.

(10:05):
You can't really do that.
It's uh, you've probably heardthe same comparison is the thief
of joy and, um, it really istrue, like if, if you're
comparing yourself to otherpeople, if you're trying to say,
you know, well, dj take twostarted his business and I'm
nowhere near that, like I got tostart at ground zero.
But the thing is is you startedground zero too, and it, uh, it
builds up from there, and soit's like everyone is going to

(10:27):
be a beginner at some point and,um, people are going to fail,
people are going to mess up, andit's just staying consistent,
staying disciplined and andcontinuing to move forward.
But, um, yeah, I think what yousaid, though, about like
refining your craft, youdefinitely did, because I
remember, like when we, uh, whenwe became one of your clients
and we were like all right, well, you know, we got to meet and

(10:48):
talk about the playlist andeverything like that, um, you, I
can't remember the softwarethat we had, but you're like
okay, yeah, just like, put somesongs in this, like ones that
you want a vibe, oh yes, yeah,yeah, that's it.
Um, and I just remember I waslike like the only thing I, I
you know we cannot have at ourwedding is the uh, the cha-cha
slide, the Cupid shuffle and allthose classic ones that you

(11:10):
have, which are good songs, Iwill say Um, but you know um.
So, like I thought it was cool,you took a really personal
approach to um.
You know, what do you guys want?
How do you envision the wedding?
Um, and then it's like the waythat you manage the music at the
wedding I thought was like spoton, it was perfect Um yeah.

(11:31):
One of my cousins.
He actually just got marriedand he asked my brothers and I
to be the DJs.
And it was not.
Not as smooth, not even close,and like no mixing it was just
like yeah, one song from theother.
Some songs had to get skippedbecause they weren't approved um
just random it sounds like myfirst couple weddings.
It's all right, yeah well, weshould talk about those a little

(11:54):
bit.
How, how was it like um, didyou feel pressure going into,
like you know, the first one,and um, I'm sure you know you're
like oh, man, the bride, Ibetter have everything set in
place.
This is her day, and what wasthat like?

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, I want to say one of my first couple weddings
I always remember was a goodfriend's wedding, and I won't
say I messed it up, but I willsay I didn't have all my stuff
together and it was like that.
It was all over the place.
It was a little less organizedand one of the things that they

(12:30):
just really wanted was to kindof make it feel like a club, and
that's something I can alwaysdo and I think I try to even
still carry a little bit more ofthat, like today, and try to
make it not just feel so cut anddry like a wedding.
But that was one of the greatthings I was able to do.
Other than that, I think peopleforget the rest of the wedding

(12:51):
is a lot of MC work.
You got to talk to people.
You got to like go out there,put yourself out there, kind of
curate these moments in between.
Uh, and I messed all of that up.
I think I got people's nameswrong during toast.
I even like and it was a goodfriend of mine, but I ended up
getting their name wrong justout of nervousness,

(13:11):
mispronouncing different things,not knowing where I was going,
just timeline stuff that I waslike OK, let me put all this
together.
So this is.
I messed it all up.
It just helped me define mycraft, like I think, like you
said, now I have programs now inplace where you know you can

(13:32):
put music, um, and it gives me agreat suggestion for what you
guys like.
And let me say you guys did anamazing job.
Um, a lot of couples, a lot ofcouples that are hard to pick
from and they're like I don't, Idon't know what I like, which
is, you know you still got to dosomething with, but you guys
did a great job putting music inthere.
I can only do so much.
I can literally only DJ right,it is is on the couple to, you

(13:57):
know, help bring the energy, andthat's something that you guys
brought and that's something Ilook forward with all my couples
that I, you know, talk to, orthat I, you know, on board, is
like you guys also got to bringit, or your crowd has to bring
it, or you guys have to havethat type of energy.
And I knew just right from thebeginning and you're like can
you introduce my mom?

(14:20):
When you said, I was like thisis how we're starting.
I know it's going to be a party,like I just knew.
So I think you know it's I, asmuch as I hate to say the
wedding is so much, not, it'snot even me, like I can only do
so much, I can only DJ, right,but it's so much of you guys, so
much of the crowd and you guyshelp so much.

(14:42):
But what I just try to do ishave those things in place where
, um, you know, set you guys upfor success and set me up for
success as well yeah, yeah, Imean you've built systems over
the years like to, to helprefine it and everything like
that.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
but I'm sure a lot of it does depend on the crowd,
like, um, have you had somesometimes where, like people
just don't dance at all or theykind of just sit back Like are
those tough?
I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
They are.
They're real rough.
I've had, I've had, I want tosay, thousands, thousand dollars
of weddings, like people spendhundreds of thousands of dollars
, right, and nobody dances.
Yeah, right, because they'refocused on the wrong things.
Like cool, look at this, Isculpture over here, right?
Um, and some of the some of thelowest budget weddings are like

(15:32):
some of the best, to be honest.
So I don't think it's a matterof like you know all the oohs
and ahs and bells and whistles,but I've dealt with a lot of
those small crowds or even largecrowds that are like, yeah,
we're just not going to dance,we're just not going to, and
it's rough, but sometimes youjust got to play through it.

(15:54):
It's like you know, you startplaying music for yourself.
You know what would I like tohear, based on what the couple
gave me and how much more can Imix in?
But then also, what I try to dois just focus on the people
that are dancing, whether it'sone person, right, even if one
person is only out there on thedance floor, I'm going to play
what that one person likes allday, so they keep on dancing and

(16:17):
who knows?
they're just going to be a partystarter, because once they're
dancing and you know otherpeople see that type of energy
right, they're going to want tohop out there too and hopefully
it starts to build that crowd.
But you know, there have beendays where it's just that one
person and all you could do isbe best friends with that one
person say what else would youlike to hear?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
it's you and me.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
That's all you can do so I mean you just got to play
through it and kind of keep ongoing, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, I love it.
That's like I mean anothergreat lesson for life.
Like, just you know, sometimesyou just got to make do with
what you got and keep going Likethat's a big one that I've been
trying to adapt just kind of inmy own life with starting
getting after it and those kindof things.
It's like it started at leastthis podcast started very small

(17:06):
and, um, the first episodes werea lot like what sounds like
your first weddings, like I wasso nervous you could hear it in
my voice and really tough tolisten to.
But, um, like you have to getthose reps, like you have to get
the tough ones and uh,eventually it builds into what
it is.
You which I envision thepodcast hopefully getting much

(17:30):
better in the future.
But it's still growing and it'sfun.
It's just fun being part ofthat process where it's like I'm
going to build something andI'm going to see where I can
take it in the future, and thatkind of thing.
And it sounds like you did thesame exact thing with your
business, which I think is great, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, slowly and surely, man, it's just, it's,
it's all a process and I thinkyou know, even from running and
stuff.
It's just, it's all.
It's such a process whereyou're like am I ever going to
get faster, Am I ever going toget better at this?
Like, am I ever gonna getbetter at this?
Like, when does when doesrunning get fun?

(18:08):
That's yeah, and you're likenever it never.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, no, it's all pain.
It's like I've I've beenrunning pretty seriously for the
past four years and I will saythere's days that like I'm like,
okay, that run wasn't that bad,but like for me it's like it
was never.
Oh, I had a great time on thatone um, yeah, unless it's in
like yeah, the mountains aredifferent, Like when I trail run
.
It's a little different because, like you're in nature and you

(18:30):
know you get some scenery yeah.
Yeah, you get some scenery, butlike when you're just on the
road and you're just going forit, it's like man, you just it's
all in, yeah, but Arizona isprobably also the worst when it
comes to like scenery andlandscape, like there's nothing

(18:51):
to look, yeah and heat too, likeman I was, uh, I was down there
I was down there two days agoand it's like 115 um, and now
I'm back up in utah, which iswhere we live now, and it's like
, yeah, oh, it's, it's 96, butthat you know, 20 degree
difference is like all right I'mokay.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, oh man, it's rough out here and it's just
such a dry heat I'm sure youguys have more just like
humidity and things that justmake it it's.
It gets sticky and all of thatit's rough.
Yeah, well, it's not that bad.
Utah's.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Uh, it's pretty dry, um, but it's just, and all of
that, it's rough.
Yeah, well, utah's a, it'spretty dry, um, but it's just
like, yeah, it gets pretty hotand it's like really muggy or
not muggy, uh, smoggy, likethere's a ton of smog and stuff
that comes from Salt Lake thatjust goes through the Valley,
but, um, yeah, I mean it's bad,though like up here can't, can't
really complain.
A lot, a lot different thanarizona, so yeah, but I gotta

(19:47):
take a visit, man.
Yeah, I mean, I can be jealous Iadmire it though, like getting
out there, like my brother, he'sstuck down there and he's, he's
uh running outside all the timeand I'm like you know what
kudos to you, man, that's.
That's way harder than anythingI I could do.
But um yeah, also like last july, I went to, went to Arizona to
run a 50 K in the desert.

(20:08):
Um, it was at nighttime, whichwas supposed to be a little bit
better, but um, yeah, that wastough, like cause I trained in
Utah and it was a lot cooler.
And then I went down there andit was like when we started the
race, I think it was 106.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh my gosh 50 K in the desert is is insane.
I have like a million and onerunning questions that I'm sure
we'll probably get to, but yeah,50k in the desert is just.
That's a different type of like, just mental state and like
just being able to continue andgo through it because I don't

(20:42):
know what's I had.
I had to start learning.
I'll just tell this quick sidenote I I started running a
little bit ago, but even stilllearning distances and like
kilometers and things like that,when I was like, okay, like you
know 10k, cool, you know what Imean and then like 20k, and

(21:03):
then once you start to get inlike the 50ks and I'm sure
you've seen like ultras andthings like that where I was
like how how do people do this?
Like I'm barely making it to10k, to half marathon, to even a
full marathon I was like wheredo you even sign up for a 50k?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
where you find out this information yeah, there's
this website that I I find Ithink it's called like ultra,
ultra racescom, like that'sreally what it's called, um, and
then you could just like searchall the different ones, um, so,
yeah, I found that and I waslike because I signed up for one
that was supposed to be earlierin the year in utah and I got

(21:40):
really sick before and I wasreally bummed, but it's like I
still gotta get the distance in.
I signed up for this thing andso just shifted it to Arizona,
which was maybe not the bestidea.
But, um, yeah, no, I, I havethe same question Like um,
you're getting into running andstuff.
Have you?
Have you learned about, uh,cameron Haynes?
Do you know who he is?
I have?

(22:07):
Yes, dude, that guy he's's,he's insane.
He just ran a race, um, it'scalled the cocodona 250.
I saw, yeah, so it's like fromtucson to flagstaff, basically,
yeah, and uh, he ran the wholething with a broken foot oh my
goodness yeah, like leading upto it, he was on like the joe
rogan podcast and joe's like youprobably shouldn't run like
that sounds stupid.
And he's like, ah, it's, I'll befine.
It's like that's a differentanimal.

(22:28):
So I'm also trying tounderstand how they do it.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
But I think it's insane, especially those where
they're like oh yeah, I'm justgonna take like a 15 minute nap
so I can stay on my pace yeah,excuse me yeah, after three days
I think it worked out.
I don't.
Did he somebody that finishedfirst?
Was he?
Did he finish first?
Somebody finished first?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
it wasn't him.
No, I think he was like eighthor something like that, but um,
whoever finished first?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
it was like they had to keep somewhere around like an
eight minute pace for likewhatever 250 miles.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah insane Plus.
On top of that they have like43,000 elevation gain or like
feet of elevation gain.
So, yeah, that's insane, yeah,but um yeah, I, I would like to
to bring it back though a littlebit and um yeah, how did you
get into running?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Um, oh man, the same way I got into dj um it was, it
was more forced on me, I thinkum, somewhere around the covet
times 2019 or so, was like, eventhough I stopped playing
football, I never stoppedworking out and being active and
being outside and stuff.
So when all the gyms closed, Iwas like I have to do something

(23:44):
and I was literally trapped.
All the gyms closed.
I was like I have to dosomething and I was literally
trapped in the house and I waslike I can't go anywhere to like
lift weights, to go to the gym,whatever.
So I was like I'm just going torun, like I'm just going to go
outside and like go for a walk,and then a walk turned into a
run, and then a run was likeokay, well, I did like one or

(24:07):
two miles, let me see how manymore I can do.
So I used to run the loop.
It's somewhere around theBiltmore area in Phoenix, but
it's a nice little loop and ittakes you around.
I think it goes even further.
I don't know, maybe a stretchof like 10 miles or so.
I think it goes even further.
I don't know, maybe a stretchof like 10 miles or so.
Um, but I only ran like fourmiles.

(24:28):
I've run like down.
And then I would just say like,okay, I'm three miles away from
the house.
Awesome, that means I have torun three miles back, like that,
that was just my distancebarometer was like okay, I'm 1.5
.
I'm two miles out.
I'm three miles out, okay, thatmeans I, I just got to make it
home, like I can't call an Uber,I can't do anything else.

(24:48):
So, um, yeah, I, it was moreforced on me.
I didn't really want to run.
It was just like let me getoutside and let me start running
.
Um, so I started somewherearound 2019 and just kind of
graced my way into it.
Um, and just kind of graced myway into it.

(25:10):
Um, I will say, though, I had abig break in between then and
now, just because I think, withrunning, even with anything
within life in general, I thinkyou need to set goals, and I had
none, like I had zero goals.
So I mean, I'm sure you've seenit, but you get like runner's
fatigue and especially it hit mereally fast because I didn't
have any goals.
I wasn't signing up for anyraces, I wasn't doing anything.
I was just like I'm going toget outside and run.

(25:31):
So you know, when I got tiredof it, I got sick and tired of
it I was like why would I dothat?
Go outside and run for fun, likeI was like I don't know who
that a year or so ago I pickedback up so I had a nice little

(25:52):
year gap, um.
And then last year somewhere Ipicked back up and I was just
like I really want to commit tothis, um, so I started signing
up for races, I started doingthings.
I think that's the always thepoison out there is.
Like I signed up for a race.
You even kind of mentioned it.
I signed up for a race, I gottado it.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
So yeah, that's what keeps me going no, that's great.
Like in um, it really is helpfuljust to have a goal, um.
And there are people, like youknow, who don't like the race
environment and stuff, and Ijust tell them like, okay, we'll
just have the goal to be betterthan yourself.
Like maybe it's you have a 10minute pace and you want to get
it down to like 9, 30 or 9 umand and let's try and get that

(26:34):
done in in three to four months,which seems, you know, pretty
quick.
But, um, I think it's, it's,it's doable, but I think that's
huge.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Like set a goal for yourself and hold yourself to it
, like it's self accountabilityat that point and um yeah, I
think it's so much to learn inthere, though it's like there's
so many interests, intricaciesof like running and like the
things to do.
I didn't know like okay, I needto run slower, like right, like

(27:03):
all that zone two kind of typeof stuff, where it was like all
right, I'll run a little bitslower so I can get my endurance
up, and then you know, I can dothose different tempo runs, um,
but I think it's lower so I canget my endurance up, and then
you know I can do thosedifferent tempo runs, um, but I
think it's, yeah, it's justimportant to just start.
Once you start, it's like okay,let me, it's, this wasn't that
bad, we can do this or like wecan always the hardest part like

(27:26):
that's always the hardest part.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Um, I'm sure you know who david goggins is.
If you know who cameron ains is, yeah, absolutely, even him.
Like he, he talks about howsometimes he'll just look at his
shoes for I'm sure you know whoDavid Goggins is.
If you know who Cameron Ains is, yeah, absolutely, even him.
Like he talks about howsometimes he'll just look at his
shoes for 12 minutes and belike I don't want to do this.
And everyone thinks about himas, like you know, the
unstoppable Goggins which heprobably is.
I haven't seen him stop, but,like, if he's even having those

(27:51):
thoughts, it's like I for surewill.
And it's like I, I for surewill.
And, um, it's like you know,get going, but it's uh, the
start is always the hardest partand that's what I try and tell
people who you know.
They tell me they want to getinto running.
It's like, just understand, thebeginning is when you're going
to be the most sore, it's goingto you're going to be the most
unmotivated, but you have tocommit, just show up, do what

(28:13):
you can and, um, like you said,I think zone two is a really
powerful tool for for runners touse.
Um, I think so.
I I hired a coach who hashelped so many people hire or
qualify for boston and she's ranboston a few times.
Um, she's insane.
But like she says, like 80 ofyour running should be done in

(28:35):
zone two.
Um, yeah, because like you wantto build that endurance, you
want to build your heart, it'sthe strongest or that's the
muscle that's pumping the blood,um, and the only way to do
that's like through slow,consistent work and it's it's
not a fun answer, like no.
Zone two is is, uh, never fun.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
But um, it's terrible because you, you feel like, and
it's just like with life,you're like I want to go fast, I
want to like be there, I wantto just like get it done.
And even when I first startedrunning, that was just the
mindset was like I'm gonna goout here, I'm gonna be as fast
as possible, like I'm just goingto go, so like I would just gas

(29:15):
all gas for like three, fourmiles and be like this was it
was a great workout, right, yeah, and that's ultimately how I
got the runner's fatigue wasjust like I was just gassing
myself and then I didn't knowwhat I was doing.
So I mean I think, yeah, likeyou said, it's just a mindset
where you're like, even though Idon't want to and even though

(29:36):
this is going to suck even now,zone two training sucks, because
I know I can go faster and I'msure you do this too, but I know
I can go faster than this.
I know I can like pick up thepace and just like keep going,
but like staying in zone two andjust like going through it,
enduring it, all that stuffwhere it's like it's more of a

(29:58):
mindset than it is.
Yeah, almost anything, right,because on two you're like it's
not painful yeah, you probablyhave a conversation you're
you're just chilling right, itfeels good.
but then you're like, am I doingthis?
It's when you get to thoselonger miles, when you're like I
could have been done, what am?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I doing.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So it's always a process, but whether it's life
or running, I think it's justalways knowing like, all right,
there's an end goal here.
I got to go through this so Ican get faster, or so I can have
the endurance to actually, like, hit the goals that I want to
hit.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
No, I think that's a great perspective and really
good point.
Like, stay accountable to thegoals.
And one thing I always tellpeople is like, don't be afraid
to adjust.
That's something I also tell,like myself all the time is like
, don't be afraid to adjust yourgoals.
Um, my wife and I we wereactually supposed to run the
grandma's marathon in Duluth,minnesota, um, in two days.
But, um, yeah, we we had topull out cause she has like

(31:01):
really really bad runner's knee.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, which is like it's caused from like mobility
problems and and other likesmall muscles you would never
like consider, even like workingout.
Oh yeah, it's, it's the othermuscles overcompensate.
Consider even like working out,oh yeah, it's, it's the other
muscles overcompensate, whichcauses knee problems.
And yeah, we were just like,yeah, let's just, you know, it's
a race that we can always runit next year We'll be fine.

(31:24):
But like that's.
The thing is like she was realbummed and I told her like hey,
real bummed.
And uh, I told her like hey,your job now is just like full
recovery mode, like let's justget you better, um, let's get
you back into running, like youdon't want to be hurt you,
because she's like I'll go outthere and I'll run the race and
I'm like that's you knowprobably not the best idea, like

(31:44):
I really admire the ambition,but you know, it's for future
sake and for your, the future ofyour knees, let's, let's, uh,
reconsider um, yeah, so I'm likeproud of her for wanting to
push, but, um, I think it'simportant to you know it's, it's
okay to adapt and I think a lotof that takes humility
sometimes because, like you said, you're like man, I want to go

(32:05):
fast or I, I know I can do thisand I can do, I can run faster
than um, I'm doing here in zonetwo or whatever it is.
Uh, but you know it takes alittle humility to say, ok, well
, I'm going to ease off and andrethink here, rethink my
strategy, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
How do you, how do you even do that?
Because you did you mentionedthe 50K.
So how do you even do that forfor 50K?
Like I think it's such a mentalgame where you're like all
right, how do I not, how do Inot burn out right here?
yeah I don't like just gasmyself.
But also, how do I have thepatience to like finish this out

(32:46):
?
Because, even like I all, Imean I haven't done a full
marathon yet, but I'm, you know,I'm training and prepping for
one.
But but even so, along the way,it's those mental roads where
you're like all right, I could,I could just call it quits now.
Or like this is, this is, thisis a lot.
Or like you know, you're onlyat mile 20 and you're like great

(33:09):
, I got 20 more of these thingsto go.
Or whatever it is.
How do you do that?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, that's a great question.
I mean, the 50K was one of theones that tested me, I think the
most, because that was like thefurthest distance I did.
It was 31 miles.
It was a seven and a half mileloop.
I'd usually pass actually, soit was just around there.
Um, and the first two laps, solike the first 15 miles, were

(33:37):
pretty brutal, just because Ithink I uh wasn't used to the
heat and, um, I went out thegate pretty hot, like I think I
was probably in third place forthe first lap or so, and then,
um, instantly, like I felt it assoon as I entered the second
lap and, um, this is prettygross, but like every quarter

(33:58):
mile I'd throw up in, uh, in thebushes, and keep going yeah,
and that's it was tough, likethat's the thing is.
I was like man, I'm losing allmy fuel because you have to
carve up quite a bit for thoseraces and yeah um, I'm, I'm
losing all my water, so I'mgoing to get dehydrated here.
And I finished the second lapand then, like I called my coach

(34:18):
and I went to the medic tentbecause, like I was like I don't
even know if I should berunning this thing, and the
medic said that I was good,they're like all the vitals are
fine, you could probably runthis thing.
And my coach said she thinks itwas probably just a dehydration
thing.
So if I could like sip water,um, then I could probably get
through Um.

(34:39):
But I wanted to quit so manytimes during that race, like I
wanted to throw in the towel, um, but there were a couple of
reasons, like I wanted to keepgoing.
That race was a little specialbecause my, my friend Jordan, he
, uh, he was battling stage fourcolon cancer at the time and I
told him I would run the racefor him.
And so, like I was like I'm,I'm bought in, like I'm not

(35:00):
gonna stop we got shirts madeand everything that was like
cancer sucks.
um, the, uh, the company that heowned, they made all these hats
for our race and stuff and so,like we, uh, I was like I can't,
can't drop out of this thing,and and then I just kept
thinking to him, um, and that'sone thing.
Honestly, like I, I do a lot is, uh, I think about the people

(35:23):
who can't run, uh, as as weirdas that sounds, but, um, like I
remember the first time thathappened, I was inah and I was
running um by a park and therewas this little kid who I don't,
I don't know what kind ofdisability he had, but he had
those little arm crutches and hewas kind of limping along and,
um, I was like man, that kid islike six years old and I assume,

(35:46):
and I'm like he's never, likeit sounds bad, but he's never
going to be able to run, atleast I don't think and I just
thought about that and I waslike you know, at least I can,
like I I'm.
I might not be the best runner,like there's obviously other
people who are much more skilled, faster than I am, but I have
the opportunity and then like mybody's well enough to to run

(36:08):
and so, um, that's a perspectiveI I kind of gained during that
race was like I, I'm fortunateenough to be able to have two
legs, that that work well, andum, so that kept me going a lot.
But I think at the the end ofthe day, it was just like I
wanted to keep that commitmentto myself.
And, um, it did get tough, likemy headlight shut off a few

(36:34):
times, um, the batteries keptdying.
It's like I was running in thedesert in the dark and I had my
iphone light, which was terrible, and there's so much like dust
blowing, like there was a duststorm going on that blew through
, so it's like I'm just seeingdust in front of me, yeah, but
it was like I don't know, it wasalso kind of an adventure.
I was like this is you, issomething that a lot of people
probably won't be able toexperience, and I'm like I'm

(36:56):
lucky enough that I can and uh,so I think gratitude and then
just like I want to know what mylimits are and and and see what
I, what I can do in that sense.
But yeah, I don't know ifthat's the answer you're looking
for, but I know, I think that'sa great answer.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
I think that's one of just because you just said it
is so much gratitude and I thinkthat's one of the things that
has one pushed me further as aDJ.
But also now in my runningjourney is like just being
thankful for being able to beout there and being able to run

(37:34):
and just, you know, being ableto DJ.
Not a lot of people get achance to make a career out of
DJing.
So I think it's being thankful,but you know, it's crazy
because it didn't really hit melike at least with gratitude and
running until, like I want tosay, a couple of races ago,
where it's like it's it'sthere's always these couple of

(37:58):
people out there but it made melike laugh and it made me like
be grateful.
I was running.
It was just a 10 K, but I wasrunning and I'm like I'm low key
, like trying to give it my all,like I'm trying to PR, I'm
doing great.
There is a guy out there whocame out there in shorts and
flip-flops and he is likebeating my like he's just

(38:22):
ridiculous and like I was likewhen I first saw I was like this
is, this is stupid, this isridiculous, like there's no way.
He's just beating me right,dusting me, but on the way, he
was so thankful for everybody,like the people that had water
out there, the people waterstations.
Sometimes they'll shut downstreets and stuff, so there were

(38:43):
police out there.
He was just like, hey, thanksfor being out here, hey, thanks
for being out here, hey, like wereally appreciate it.
Like patting people on the backwhile he's running by and I'm
like that, you know, to thewrong person that could be like
leave me the hell alone, Like,but it was like it could be a
dis to me.
But just seeing that and inretrospect, when I finished, I

(39:06):
was just like I think that's itLike just being grateful for
being out here, just beingappreciative for being out here,
just being appreciative foryeah, you know, having the space
, having the capacity to run, um, not that it's going to make
you any faster, but I think itmakes it not.
So not enjoyable I wouldn't evensay enjoyable is the word, but
I I think I do think there's acertain element where you start

(39:29):
to not look at it like I gotta.
Like if I'm, I gotta be my PRand if I don't, I'm going to
beat myself up about it all day.
You know what I mean.
Like you just start to be ableto appreciate where you're at
and what you're doing a wholelot more.
Like whether it's running orwhether it's DJing, whatever it

(39:50):
is, I think you know.
Even going back to those emptydance floors, it's like I
appreciate where I'm at and Iappreciate what I'm doing.
Um, you know, cause I could bethe best DJ somebody has ever
heard, but in my mind there'sonly one person out there in
this dance floor sucks.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Right Like it's.
I think it's all perspective andI think it's like you said,
it's just gratitude is beingable to appreciate where you're
at and what you're doing in thatmoment yeah, it really does
just give you a differentperspective to to look at things
and, um, for me, it just yeah,like you said, I I think it's it
helps you see that your journeyis unique to yourself.

(40:31):
Um, because I think, like whatwe were talking about a little
bit in the beginning aboutcomparison, like it's easy to
jump on social media and and Ifollow a ton of like amazing
athletes Like, uh, nick bear isone of them.
I don't know if you've you'veseen him before, but he's yeah,
I got to look like I got to.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh, there we go yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Go one more.
You got the black one.
There we go.
Yeah, wasn't that one a limitededition, or?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
something it was.
It was, but when I first likestarted following him, I was
like, let me just sign up to bewhatever member or whatever.
So I think last month or acouple of months ago it was like
hey, we're coming back out withthe black hats.
And I was like, great, I, we'recoming back out with the black
hats and I was like, great, Iget one.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, man, I mean that that guy's amazing and the
things that he's doing, likehe's so fast.
He got hit by a car this yearand then he's bounced back and
now he's like still cranking outcrazy fast miles.
And then there's this other guywho's Cameron Haynes, his son.
I don't know.
Do you know who Truett Haynesis?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I don't know.
I've heard of him but I don't.
I don't think I watched hisstuff or anything.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
You got to look this guy up Cause he's another animal
.
Like he just ran the Bostonmarathon Um, he's kind of like
that guy that you ran, uhagainst in shorts and flip-flops
.
He ran it in jeans and, uh, hegot like a two 36 marathon time,
Um, and then, like, he rananother marathon a week later in
jeans and the last mile hisshoe fell off.

(41:57):
But he just picked up a shoeand ran with one shoe on and
still got like a two 38.
Oh my.
God Just like these animals andit's like easy to see that and
be like man.
I'll never be like them, butinstead it's like hey, I have a
chance if I just stay consistentat this thing.
But you know what they're doing, something that's amazing and,
um, I don't know.

(42:18):
I like being in a world whereit's like hey, kudos to you for
running a marathon in jeans, orkudos to you for running in
flip-flops and shorts.
Uh, yeah, that's pretty cool.
I would never do it, but atleast I got it to you.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
So yeah, I think that you just get to a point where
you're like you do get to enjoyit.
Like, yeah, you know, eventhough you're working hard to
like, set a goal, set a pr,whatever it is like, you get to
those points where you're likeI've worked this hard, I'm I'm
gonna enjoy it.
You know, whatever happens tome, like I'm gonna enjoy it when
my shoe could fall off,whatever it is, I'm gonna be out

(42:51):
here having fun with it as well.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Like yeah you know, well, I, um, I have to ask you
about your, uh, your triathlonthat you podium for oh yeah yeah
, tell me about that.
That was awesome.
I saw that and I was like dangdj takes me, let's go yeah, it
is um.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It was another thing that I was um forced or pushed
into.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
So that's the key is like, hey, if I want to get him
to do anything, I just got topush him into it.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Basically, that has, that's always been my life.
I don't know why, but thingsjust fall into my lap and, you
know, do different events.

(43:39):
So I did a dualathlon, which isyou do the same event twice.
Instead of run bike swim, I didrun bike run.
Right Because OK yeah, I knowI'm not a good swimmer, so I
just like.
I was like I, I can't.
But the friend that got me intoit his name is jordan hunter,
amazing guy, and he teaches swim.

(44:00):
He used to be navy, um, but heteaches aquatics and literally
called me one day and was likehey, there's this triathlon
coming up.
I think you can do it.
And immediately I was like Idon't know who you think I am.
Like what the hell?
Like yeah, I'm posting runningstories.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Exactly.
That was like I'm I'm just outhere having fun posting my
running videos, just minding mybusiness, um, but he was you
know, shout out to friends thatbelieve in you, cause I was
insane.
So he called me and he was likeyou know, shout out to friends
that believe in you because Iwas insane.
So he called me and he was likeyou should do this.
He was like it's in Omaha,nebraska, and you have like a

(44:41):
month.
And I was like OK, I think Ican do it.
And it was one of those thingswhere I signed up and I was like
I'm signed up, I'm committed,yeah, that's it, that's, that's
all it is to it.
Um, so I, I got out there and Ijust started running my race.
I, I think it's it's, I don'tknow.

(45:05):
It's such an amazingenvironment to be around so many
people with like amazing talent, great mindsets, and like
you're telling people like it'snot a secret, I'm like, hey,
it's my, it's my first one.
And they're like, oh, you'regoing to do great.
Like you don't know that, likeI'm down on myself and they're
out there like you're going todo amazing.

(45:28):
Yeah, I just know it.
Like you're going to do great,yeah, or like you know the
things that you've been saying,the fact that you're starting is
amazing, like just being outhere is great, so it started out
with so much gratitude that Ireally appreciated it.
And then, when I finished oneof the races, I ran two races
out there and I only podiumedonce, which is amazing

(45:49):
regardless.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
That's so cool, yeah, which is amazing regardless.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Um.
But when I finished, uh, therace that I podium for, um, it
was run, bike, run, um, and Igot done and I was, honestly,
truly, truly just happy.
I finished like I was good, Iwas done.
And then one of the guys I justmet out there, he was like hey
man, Um, he was like you gotthird place.
I said what he was like hey man, um, he's like you got third

(46:12):
place.
I said what he was like you gotthird place.
I was like why would I?
Why would I literally ask?
I was like why would they giveme third place?
like that's great, I don't knowI don't deserve third place,
right?
Um, and before I knew it, theycalled my name up to the podium
and it was.
It was just, it was an amazingmoment.
Um, but I, I went out there.
But I, I went out there withzero expectation.

(46:36):
I went out there with thethought that I was probably
going to fail at this.
There's literally Olympians outthere that are like better than
you, right, so I just, it wasan amazing moment, it was great.
I was forced into it.
But, um, you know, it's nowit's got me into it where I've
caught the bug and you know,I'll see what else I can do with

(46:57):
it.
Hopefully I'll get in the waternext time.
Yeah, but it was, it was suchan amazing moment, it was, it
was great.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
So that's really cool .
No, that that is really awesome.
And like, I feel like the raceenvironment does that, like
there's something about racesI'm sure it's the same in a
triathlon but everyone does seemto be like, oh yeah, you're
going to be fine, like it's.
It's not like, uh, like youprobably have this in football,
you know, you see the other teamand you're like you guys are
going to die.
I'm going to kill you guys,like you know something like

(47:24):
that Like get ready.
You guys are in for in for hell,um.
But like at a race, it's like,hey, just do your best, like
just show up and do what you can, and uh, I also remember, like
my first marathon I wasterrified, um, and I was like
all alone up in, uh, like theybust you up super far and then

(47:46):
they just drop you off andyou're sitting all alone for
like two hours in the middle ofnowhere, and so, like I'm just
trying to walk around and and um, I remember talking to this one
guy and he's asking me you knowhow long I've been running?
I was like about a year and ahalf.
And um, he goes, okay.
Well, like this is your firstone.
Like I remember mine.
It's a special experience, liketake every moment in as well as

(48:08):
you can.
And um, I remember after thatrace, I was just like it was so
weird.
It's like a emotional rollercoaster.
Like I'm not one that getsemotional, but like I remember
driving over um, we have tons ofhills here in utah and I drove
over a hill and I saw like themountains in the background.
I was like life is so beautiful, like it's so stupid, like but

(48:29):
um, I just cried.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I cried too.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
It's okay yeah I don't know if I was happy
because it was over or, like youknow, proud of myself, I was
able to push through, orwhatever it was, but like, yeah,
it's just, it's, it's a coolplace to be in, um, like it's a
supportive community and stufflike that, and yeah, I think
that's one of the craziestthings I noticed too is like
running is so supportive, likeyeah.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
I think other sports, like you said, football is it's
competitive um, where you'relike I'm out here to beat
whoever, Right, and even evenlike you think to yourself, it's
so intimidating because you'relike a bunch of these people are
going to be faster than me andI want to go out there and be my
best.
You know, you like when I firststarted running, oh yeah, the

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goal is to be first.
I want to be in first place,you know, and like that's.
That's just not the reality ofit.
I think the goal is always nowis just to finish.
Right, you just want to be ableto finish um in the wider, what
pace you can do?
You're like, okay, I want to.
You know, if I can beat thispace, then I'll beat my pace,
but the goal number one is tofinish.
But the support system is soamazing because I think a lot of

(49:42):
people will like use you asmotivation and you don't even
know it, like I think one of myfirst races there was a guy and
I.
I admittedly I stopped in themiddle of a race, like I think
it was only a 10 K or so, but Istopped at mile three because a
lot of my practice I was so usedto like running one mile and
stopping, catching my breath,whatever.

(50:04):
So I got to mile three and Idid exactly that.
I stopped and, um, one of theguys behind me was like hey,
you're doing great, I've beenpacing you for the last three
miles and you're doing likeyou're doing great.
And then he kept on going and Iwas like I got to keep going,
like I just have to, but it'sthe attitude like that.
There's so many good like justattitudes and gratitude out
there, where it's the attitudelike that.

(50:24):
There's so many good like justattitudes and gratitude out
there, where it's like this is asupportive community and you
wouldn't even think so.
You're like I get it once you.
We're not, we're not going tothe olympics just yet.
You might have a goal too, butI think the goal for now is just
to be appreciative of whereyou're at, and everybody knows
that.
Like hey, yeah, I'm no olympian, I'm doing it just like you.

(50:47):
And, um, it's, it's really good.
I think the oldest athlete outthere at the triathlon was 91 90
and that way that was inspiring.
That was like yeah, that'samazing if they can do it.
I know I like there's no reasonyeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
That's so cool, Dang 91 years old man 91.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
It was amazing and they podiumed.
I mean, it was an age bracketthing.
I don't think there was anybodyeven close to them.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
You're the only 90-year-old, let's go Exactly.
But yeah, either way.
Sorry about that.
No, I'm sorry.
It's all right, man, technicaldifficulties always happen.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
It's adaptive.
We're talking about it today.
Yeah, yeah, but um, yeah, itwas good.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Uh, 91 years old was the oldest and it was amazing.
It is amazing and, uh, I'veI've thought a lot actually
about like the um, like how I.
I just think the runningcommunity is so supportive and I
think it comes down to the factthat you're just suffering
together with everybody aroundyou.
Like it's when you're sufferingthat forms bonds and, like I,

(52:00):
one of my buddies up here inUtah, his friend, was running 31
miles for his 31st birthday andit was just at a park.
It was a one mile loop, so theyhad to do it 31 times.
I like when I saw that, I waslike you should have picked a
different one, but the reasonthey did it is he's like he's
like we did a one mile loop sopeople could just come and run

(52:20):
whatever they were comfortabledoing, um, and so people would
come and run like two miles withthem or a mile or whatever, and
, um, I just ended up runninglike 10 with this guy and didn't
know him before.
I ran with him and at the endwe were like buddies and like we
learned all about each otherand stuff.
And it's just like you know,we're going through something
difficult together.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Might as well make the most of it, and I think it
does do something where it'slike know we're in this together
and we're uh, we're sufferingit's really basically all the
pain, but I think that's great,like it's such a bonding
experience where, like I meaneven people you don't know yeah,
you start connecting with andyou're like, hey, we're here,

(52:59):
we're just, yeah, we got abouttwo hours, so let's just talk to
each other.
You know, see it through.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Absolutely yeah, one.
One of my favorite picturesthat I have was, uh, from my 50
K that I ran in Arizona, Um, onmy second lap I was like really
struggling, um, but my wife waslike, hey, I'll run this one
with you.
And I was like, okay, all right, well, whatever, she didn't
sign up for the race or anything, but that day before, I think,

(53:28):
she ran, or the day of she ran15 miles.
So she was kind of doing her ownultra marathon.
But she's like I'll run thislap with you and she did, and
that whole time I relied on herstrength because she had way
more than I did during the time.
And it's like that guy who'slike, hey, you're doing great,
and then you kept going.
It's like that bleeds into eachother.

(53:51):
I feel like it's like you canlean on one another strength and
if someone else is going youknow that 91 year old it's like,
hey, I can keep going too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I love it.
Did you start running first,like your journey, and then
wifey joined in, or was it theopposite?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
It was.
It was kind of on my own.
At first.
I, um my sister-in-law was like, hey, like I want to run a half
marathon.
And uh, this was back in 2021.
And I was like, man, this is acrazy, like I don't know, half
marathon, it sounds a littlelittle much Um.
But I was like I want to do it,I want to try.
And like, during that time, um,same thing with COVID like I

(54:28):
got into running, uh, just alittle bit, not not very much,
and I would do like seven mileruns every now and then, Um, but
like 11 minute pace, real slow,and I was like I could probably
do a half marathon.
But a lot of stuff happened withmy health.
I got really sick back then and, um, I was down to like 135

(54:49):
pounds and the doctors were like, if you run this, you'll
probably have a heart attack.
So I was like, okay, I got tostop.
Oh, my gosh.
Um.
But that planted the seed and Iwas like, okay, I want to see
where this leads, I want to seewhat I can do.

(55:09):
And then, um, they actuallysent a metal to like my parents,
cause I didn't sign up for therace or I didn't show up to the
race and I was like, mom, youcan't give me that metal.
I didn't earn it, Um.
And then I was like I moved upto Utah and still was running a
little bit consistently.
And then, um, I just ran a halfmarathon outside, just by
myself, because I wanted to earnthat medal.
My mom sent it to me.
That was my first one.

(55:33):
Then I started dating the wife.
Every single year they run arace for her dad who passed away
from cancer.
Like I was saying it's just ahalf marathon, saying, and it's
just a half marathon, um, butwhat they do is like they'll get
tons of people who don't run orpeople who run now and then
like, but they'll all cometogether and run for a cause.

(55:54):
So we all run to support thosewho have been like you know, who
have been impacted by cancer insome way.
And so we started dating andshe's like, hey, hey, like, come
run.
This race in January is inNewport beach, Um, and I was
like man, okay, so I, uh, I gotinto it that way and I was like

(56:16):
I'm going to, I'm going to gointo it and I had, I pushed
myself hard on that race.
It was like my first actualofficial half marathon.
But I was like I gotta, I gottabeat everyone Um and it was like
after that I was like well, um,yeah you know, I think I'm
going to marry this girl and uh,running is not going away, so I
better just get used to it.

(56:36):
And so, like, uh, after that, Iran my first marathon, and um,
in June of that year so sixmonths later um, but yeah, I
mean it's, it's always somethingthat's like I've I've been, I
admire people who run and I'vealways considered myself someone
who doesn't like it's, it'seasy, I think to to put yourself

(56:57):
in that bucket of like oh yeah,I don't run like that's not for
me, but yeah, that's the thing.
And so, like, what I love aboutit now is what you've talked
about a lot is like the mentalpiece is I always ask myself
okay, well, can I take the nextstep?
Uh, if the answer is yes, thenI try to um, and obviously I'm

(57:19):
not like I don't do it if I'minjured or anything like that,
but um really just want to likesee what my limits are, and it's
been a good, um therapeuticthing for me.
Like, I get a lot of time tothink when I'm running and um,
especially like when it's in thetrails, like being in nature
and stuff is is beautiful, butum, that's kind of how I got

(57:39):
into it, and so she's kept meconsistent and uh yeah, now it's
what a a way, what a way totest your relationship.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
It's like I'm gonna take you on a half marathon and
see if you make it yeah, it wasgood, but like I don't know it
was.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
it was one of those experiences, too, where, like
you know, we had a whole airbnbfull of people in california uh,
that were all friends thatrunning this race, and like that
was something where I was likeman, man, I can get behind
something like this, like thisis a community and um, I think,
yeah, this year we, we did it inVegas.
Uh, the rock and roll marathonor the half marathon in Vegas,
which, if you get the chance todo that, that's, that's pretty

(58:17):
cool, cause it's at nighttimeand, um, there's tons of DJs all
along.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
actually, want to do it, yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Um, but yeah, I think this year we had around 45
people um show up and run, andso, like it's just cool to see
that um, see that piece of it,and like that's what I love to
see now is is other peopletesting themselves and, and, um,
like my brother, same boat, hewas like I'm never going to be a
runner and uh, I don't know,know, you may have saw him at my

(58:48):
wedding, but he was the the onewith the super long hair.
He was a bigger dude.
Yeah, um, he was 265 at thetime.
Uh, now he's down to 203 and heran his first marathon last
november and now he's running a50k with me in October and it's
just cool like seeing him, likeyou know, grow and develop in

(59:08):
this in this way.
And um, yeah, I don't know, Ithink I love that piece of it
too is like people testingthemselves, not thinking that
they have the potential to dowhat they want to do, and then
seeing that they can and um,then they're like, oh, what's
next?
Like what else can I do afterthis?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
like that that's really cool to me.
Oh yeah, I always loved seeingthat.
It's like people push theirlimits.
I think that's kind of how weall get into it and it's like,
yeah, I'm not a runner, I don'treally do that type of stuff.
And then you're like, all right, this isn't that bad.
And then you get out there andkind of continue to do it.
And now I think I'm in thatphase too where, um, I guess now

(59:47):
I'm trying to sightsee a littlebit so I might sign up for the
rock and roll in Vegas and tryto get some other stuff, just
cause, yeah, arizona's landscapeisn't great, but I think being
in those environments is alwaysfun too.
Like, oh, okay, now there'sthere's a DJ out here, and now I
get to see different stuff.
Or, you know, now I get to bearound different people and
stuff.
I want to do the Disney half.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Oh yeah, that's at Disneyland, right?
Or does it just pass throughDisneyland?

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
But it sells out like a year or two years in advance.
Like I think 2026 is sold outalready.
Oh my gosh, when is it it is?
They do two of them.
There's one around Halloweentime, I think there's three one
around Halloween time whichsells out just because it's
costumes and stuff yeah, thenthey do a winter one as well

(01:00:39):
Winter wonderland, and then oneat the top of the year somewhere
in January.
But like all three of them sellout so fast.
So I'm like I'm in that stagewhere I'm looking them up and
like all my Instagram feed islike next race, but I want to go
outside wherever you know LongBeach, somewhere, vegas and
actually go run and do somedifferent stuff.

(01:01:01):
So I'm in that phase.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
But it's a crazy journey.
It's a fun phase to be in youyou alluded to it a little bit.
I think it is expensive.
Yeah, I don't understand.
Like that's one thing.
I'm like does it really costthat much to put on a race?
Like come on, guys, like theprice a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I gotta, I gotta do something difficult.
Plus I got to pay $150 to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
There's been a couple races, especially where I've
been also like slightlydisappointed, because I sign up,
of course you get a bib, youget whatever, whatever.
But then you don't get a medal.
Not that you're in it for themedal, but you won a medal.
I'm not getting anything elseout of this race but a medal and

(01:01:47):
some good vibes.
I better get a medal, like I'mnot getting anything else out of
this race but a medal and youknow some good vibes.
I better get a medal.
And there have been multipleraces where I haven't gotten a
medal, where I'm like, what didI do this for?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
why did?
I pay 150 and I don't even getI'm.
I'm with you on that.
When I, when I finished my 50k,they had two choices for you
that you could pick as like yourmetal.
One of them was a mug, um, andit like wasn't even that cool.
And then the actual metalitself was like a piece of wood
that had like uh, I don't evenknow what it was, it was like

(01:02:16):
just one of those crappy piecesof rope that you get at home
depot or something, and I waslike I guess I'll take that, but
like whatever, oh, it'sterrible.
But you said you're signing up,you're training for a marathon.
Which one?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I am.
So Arizona, or Phoenix, has itsfirst annual marathon.
I think they used to do onemaybe years and years ago, but
they brought it back and they'redoing the Phoenix or Arizona's
first annual I call it a first,again, annual marathon.
So it starts if you're familiarwith Arizona's landscape, it

(01:02:50):
starts somewhere like inGoodyear and then we'll end up
somewhere in the Tempe,scottsdale ish area, um, but
yeah, it's their first one inmany, many years and, um, it's
in December, um, so I'm tryingto for that that.
But I want to kind of do onebefore that, to like, I don't
know, to push myself, yeah, um,but we'll see.

(01:03:13):
But that one, that one's theone I'm training for somewhere
in december, um, but it's such abig gap where I'm like I gotta
do something else in between.
So I've been doing littlelittle ones, but I want to do a,
uh, like a long beach marathonbefore this one and just kind of
see.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Oh, that'd be cool and um, I think I'm going to do
the Phoenix one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I'm pretty sure I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah Well, my wife texts me today, her friend's
doing it and she's like I'mgoing to do the Phoenix marathon
and I was like, well, don'tcount me out, so I I might sign
up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
So after I, I tell her that you and I talked about
this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
She'll probably be like all right, sign up, let's
do it.
But yeah, the phoenix one.
I I ran the mesa marathon.
That one was cool, yeah, butphoenix would be way better.
I feel like the landscape andeverything would be kind of in
december that's the best time torun a marathon in arizona yeah,
absolutely, you only got.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
You got small windows out here in Arizona where it's
like, all right, november,december, january.
I think we're just approachinga time where I'm like, if I
don't get out and run before 6amor something, I'm not, I might
not for the day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
It's, it's.
I don't, I do not blame you.
That's, that's tough man.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Um, but I do want to ask you before we, uh, we wrap
things up here.
You asked me at the beginningyou know what do I tell myself
to?
To keep going?
You know when times get toughfor like, when I'm like man, I
got, I'm only 10 miles in, I got10 more to go.
Um, curious what you, you tellyourself no-transcript.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
A bad night.
I'm just, you know, I don'tfeel great.
Maybe, you know, nobody elsecan tell, but it's me.
Same thing with weddings,whether it's one person on the
dance floor and I'm like this isa bad night for me.
Um.
Same thing with running I'mhaving a bad day.
I'm running slow, out of breath, I can't catch my pace Like I
usually do.
Um, I think it just it'sgratitude, it's like it is a

(01:05:35):
privilege to be where I'm at,wherever.
That is, um, and I need toappreciate, I need to be in the
moment and um, that's kind ofwhat I start to tell myself
anytime and every time, One ofmy, one of the mantras, I guess,
for the triathlon, um inNebraska, um, somebody said it
to me at the beginning and Ijust kind of never forgot it was

(01:05:56):
like your race, your pace, andlike it didn't matter no matter
how slow you go, no matter howfast you think you wanted to go,
it didn't matter.
Like it was you by yourself,doing your own race, doing your
own thing, the goal is just tofinish.
And I think that's that's life.

(01:06:16):
Like wherever you're at, finishthe job, finish what you're
doing and you're going to, youknow, feel accomplished at the
end, no matter how slow thattakes you or how fast that takes
you.
Like it's all up to you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah that's great.
I think that's spot on, like itreally is, and everyone's
journey is unique.
And, uh, it's been kind of funjust following you along on, uh,
instagram and stuff and seeingthe Strava trend, like I saw the
one in the gas station fridgethat one was sweet but it's cool
.
I think it inspires people totake a chance on themselves and

(01:06:54):
you know they're like, oh man, Isee Tyler's out there grinding
Like maybe I can do the samething and I think that's
something you know.
That's why we're here on Earth,at least, like I believe, to
help each other out and to buildeach other up.
And one way to do that is tomake yourself better.
And I think running DJing, likeyou know, the podcast, like all

(01:07:17):
these things that you and I dothat take time but you know that
we enjoy to do, I think do makeus better people and you know,
then it's always giving.
I think, do make us betterpeople and, um, you know, and
then it's always given back.
So I love that.
I think that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Absolutely.
Let me tell you, you and yourwife inspire me a whole lot as
well, so I watch you guysthrough Instagram.
I watch what you're doing.
You're one of the like I said,one of the rare couples that,
like, I still get to connectwith and things.
So watching you on your journeyand watching you guys just
continue to strive for greatnessis such an inspiration to me.
So you know, keep going as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Well, I appreciate that, man, and same goes to you.
Like, um, keep training, causeI, I, uh, I want to want to run
with you at a at Phoenix.
That'd be cool, that'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
But, yeah, it's, um, I appreciate that and yeah,
you're doing the same thing.
So, um, yeah, you're, you'rethe man, but any anything else
that you want to leave thelisteners with before we wrap up
you know, just keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
keep going as as best as you can, as much as you can,
just keep going.
I know it's uh, it's alwaysdifficult, um, kind of like
we've been saying.
I know it's like am I doing theright thing?
Am I heading in the rightdirection?
Um, am I going at the pace Ishould be going?
And I don't think that feelingever goes away.
Um, if anybody's looking for itto like when will I ever get

(01:08:40):
over this or when will, I don'tthink it ever goes away.
But, um, I think it's somethingyou need to embrace, um, and be
in it, embrace the journey,love it, um, and keep going.
You'll be where you want to bebefore you know it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
That's awesome, man.
Well, I seriously appreciateyou coming on.
Um, one thing that's a secret,but it's coming out soon is I'm
making t-shirts and as soon soonas I do, I'm going to message
you for your address and I'mgoing to send you one, because
you're in after it and everyguest gets a t-shirt, so you,
know it's not much.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
That's much love, man .
It's more than I've got from acouple races.
So thank you, hey, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I'm replacing the metal that you didn't get at
that one race.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Thank you, I appreciate that man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Yeah, but if anyone wants to follow you or reach out
to you for a DJing, whereshould they go?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Yeah, I am at DJTake2 .
That's T-A-K-E and then thenumber two everywhere, I think.
Facebook, instagram, tiktok.
I'm all over it, but hit me up,I'm here for anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Whether you want some running advice, I don't have a
lot, but hey you're a runner man, like that's the thing is, if
you're out there doing it,you're a runner Like I um that
that pace thing.
You know it's.
That's a.
That's a real quote.
You know it's um your race,your pace and the fact that
you're out doing it like hey,that you're out doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Like hey, you're a runner, doesn't?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
matter.
So thank you, I think it'sawesome.
But, um, yeah, I'll put allyour stuff in the the show notes
.
But yeah, man, seriously thanksfor coming on today and uh it
was fun catching up and uh, yeah, hopefully we'll.
We'll see each other soon.
Absolutely, I'll see you at thenext start line.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Yeah, yes, sir, I'll be good all right man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Thank you so much.
All right, well, thank youeveryone else for listening and,
as always, keep getting afterit.