141 - Lily Marrujo - Be You. That’s the Whole Point. - Getting After It

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Brett (00:00):
Thanks, right on, all right, all right, lil Welcome.
Welcome to the show.

Lily (00:03):
Thank you for having me.
Of course I've been wanting tocome on for like actually
forever.

Brett (00:08):
We've been talking about it for a long time.
I remember the first time youwanted to come on.
You're like okay, we're goingto talk conspiracies, so maybe
kick us off with a conspiracy.
What's a good one?

Lily (00:22):
Oh my gosh Actually.
Oh my gosh actually.
I have no clue.
You're out of the conspiracyphase?
Well, no, because I I I wasgonna tell you this, but I
actually, like I watch.
Most of the podcasts that Iwatch are about conspiracies or
like really okay, yeah I don'tknow why.
It's just like it's interesting, like when I'm cleaning or
something I'll be watching?
I don't even know, I'll just belistening to podcasts Do you

(00:47):
listen to the alleys.
I do sometimes.
There we go.
Those are good.
I like learning about all thiscrime and stuff.

Brett (00:57):
Did you listen to the one about my roommate's brother?
No, you didn't.
No, oh man, you got to do it.

Lily (00:59):
Okay, wait, what is it?

Brett (01:00):
called you didn't?
No, oh man, you got to do it.

Lily (01:02):
Okay, wait, what is it called?

Brett (01:05):
Because actually I would watch it.
It's called the Disciples ofDestruction Okay.
Yeah, that was the name thattheir group did.
That was like what they calledthemselves Disciples of
Destruction, disciples ofDestruction.

Lily (01:16):
Yeah, nuts, I was watching your podcast, the one with
Spencer, your friend.

Brett (01:21):
Oh yeah, spencer, your friend.
Oh yeah, do you remember him,by the way?

Lily (01:23):
I do.

Brett (01:24):
I know the name yeah I think I do remember a little bit
so yeah, this is random, umjumping into this real quick, um
lily's my niece oh yeah and shewas born when she, when I was
10 years old, so she kind ofgrew up with me.
She's my little sister.
I would say yeah, um, but yeah,so you remember spencer a
little bit.
I I know he was over at thehouse and stuff, but I'm sure

(01:45):
you were like four or five.

Lily (01:47):
So I do kind of remember like I cause I would always want
to hang out with you.
Yeah, I remember that friendswere over, so I'd be like coming
into your room and I botheringyou.

Brett (01:57):
No, no.
We were always like hey, thisis cool, like hanging out a
little, you're always a cool kid, like that's.
One thing that's always beencool to see about you is like
you're definitely a peopleperson.

Lily (02:07):
Yeah, you're one of the most extroverted people I know.
Yeah, it's true, it's so well.
I think that now that I'vematured, I've gotten to be kind
of like quieter.

Brett (02:21):
Really.

Lily (02:21):
Yeah, because.

Brett (02:23):
Hard for me to believe.

Lily (02:33):
Yeah, no, I don't know, because I do love being around
people, but I also like enjoybeing just with myself.
Now, maybe that's because I do.
I think that is because I'velike matured a lot.
But I'm matured, sorry, but um,because I just being with
myself is just like relaxing.
It gives me time to like justbe with my, my thoughts, and you
know, but no, I do.
I am still an extrovert.

(02:54):
I've always loved meeting newpeople and like talking a lot.
I do talk a lot.

Brett (02:59):
I mean that's a yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat, like
I love talking to people.
I talk to people for my job yeahtalk to people on the podcast,
but like there's definitelytimes where I'm just like I
don't want to talk to anybody,I'm going into the room and
either like putting myheadphones on or just trying to
take a nap, like I don't know,it's nice to sometimes it's like
disconnect, like you said, likeit helps me at least like think

(03:21):
of my thoughts and stuff likethat.
But yeah, so I'm interested.
I don't know what it's likegrowing up nowadays.
It seems crazy.
Yeah, what's high school like?

Lily (03:35):
I think it's fun, I definitely.

Brett (03:38):
You're going into your senior year, right?

Lily (03:40):
Yeah, I just got my senior backpack.

Brett (03:42):
Let's go.

Lily (03:44):
It's because all the seniors I don't know if this was
like, if all everyone at yourschool when you were in high
school- yeah did you guys, asseniors, get like kid backpacks?
Kid backpacks like little kids,like like um paw patrol, or I
didn't grow up with paw patrol,but um, I don't just like

(04:04):
cartoons and stuff.

Brett (04:05):
I think the only thing.
Like my senior year, I onlybrought like a binder to school.
Sometimes I wouldn't bringanything.
What, yeah?
I think yeah, because it's likeI don't know, I don't need much
, but I guess Okay, so what'dyou get?

Lily (04:16):
Blue's Clues.

Brett (04:17):
Blue's Clues.

Lily (04:25):
And it's fluffy, bro, all right, yeah, and I was telling
my friend.
I was like, if I see anyone whohas the same backpack as me,
this year because I never saw,because I feel like when seniors
get backpacks, they get themost like stupid stuff or not
stupid, but like everyone willhave it and I'm like be
different.
Yeah.
So I was like I'm going to getblue skus, but, twist, I'm going
to make it fluffy.
So yeah, there you go I got ityesterday and it's so freaking
cute, but it's really small.
It like barely fits my computerreally.

Brett (04:46):
Yeah, you guys have computers.

Lily (04:48):
Now I've had them at school since elementary school,
really, that's insane.

Brett (04:54):
I would have like for sure learned how to, because
they're probably like they havesoftware on them so you can't
like do anything stupid righttrue damn.
Can you download games?
No, they've blocked that reallyyeah, like you can't even watch
youtube I'd figure out a way todo it, because I'd have
minecraft on and I'd pretendlike I was doing something and
I'd be playing minecraft.
That's for sure what I would do.
That's why we didn't havecomputers, because I was stupid

(05:15):
I yeah, when.

Lily (05:16):
So back to when uh talking about the spencer, you and
spencer on the podcast oh yeah Ijust really quick and then I'll
go back to oh, you're good um,you guys were talking about, oh
crap.
I don't know if I remember it,but it was like this pact.
Oh the pack rats, yeah the packabout like the van or whatever
I also when you guys would makelike videos, I'm so like just

(05:42):
skits.
I'm so jealous because none ofmy friends do that like really
yeah, I want to do it with themso bad like I also make my
cousins or brothers?

Brett (05:50):
when's the last time you watched my videos?

Lily (05:53):
like your skits.
Yeah, I don't know they'repretty bad I love like.

Brett (05:57):
That's why I love them, because they're so funny and
like so stupid I mean, I'll lookback on them now like, yeah,
they were so stupid bike gangproductions.
If I'll look back on them nowLike, yeah, they were so stupid
Bike gang productions, if youwant to look on YouTube.

Lily (06:06):
Yeah, bike gang productions.

Brett (06:07):
That's what it is.
That's my YouTube channel fromwhen I was a kid.
There was like the Elmo one,where Elmo killed me and all my
friends.

Lily (06:14):
I saw that there's one where, like, we pretended to be
Dog the Bounty Hunter yeah, Idid not see weird and yeah, we
just did some weird stuff, butlike it was always fun, uh, just
like hanging out, exactly likeI just want to do that because
it seems so like fun.
It doesn't have to be good.

Brett (06:29):
I just yeah I think it would be hilarious, but I don't
think I'm that creative I thinkyou are, you for sure could do
something maybe no you could.
I'm, I, um, I firmly believe it,like I don't know.
It's uh one of the reasons likeI like podcasting and stuff,
because, because it kind offeels like that, like when I was
a kid yeah, doing those videosand stuff, um, but that's one

(06:50):
thing like I've learned.
Um, I know this isn't an advicesession, but yeah, if I could
give you like any advice,because you are growing up,
you're gonna make some bigdecisions.
You're almost turning 18 in ayear, which is weird, that's so
weird.
I know um gross, but liketrying and find things that you
are interested in.

(07:10):
Like for me, I loved makingmovies, I always have, and so
now I'm trying to like createcontent for running, for getting
after it, like all thesedifferent things.
Um, this by no means is my job,but it's like a hobby that I
like doing and um pa wouldactually say this all the time
he'd always like make sure he'slike make sure you always stay
true to yourself, and there's alot of power in that, because I

(07:31):
think I'm sure you run into thiswith high school.
Like you want to fit in, youwant to um, you know, make
friends and sometimes, like youdon't know if they're interested
in the same things you are andso like, yeah, it might be
intimidating to share like hell.
Yeah, well, I love makingvideos or whatever.
Um, but that's important, likeyou never want to abandon that

(07:51):
yeah, always stay true, true toyourself.

Lily (07:54):
I think that's very good advice, like important,
especially for kids growing up,and like school is really tough
because yeah there's not like.
It's not like bullies, butpeople.
I mean, I guess kind of justbecause some people will like
make fun of you or laugh yeah alittle kids, most little kids, I
feel, because I've definitelylike run into this problem.

(08:15):
It's like where you're justworried what other people will
think?

Brett (08:18):
I think all little kids actually yeah but, I mean not
just little kids, adults too,that's.
They worry about it that's true.

Lily (08:25):
I mean, I don't know because I'm not an adult yet,
but I believe that you're prettyclose.
Yeah, I definitely do believethat you should always be true
to yourself.
You know, never lose youridentity, because I don't know,
it's just, it's the one thingyou got.

Brett (08:46):
I don't know, it's just it's the one thing you got
Exactly.
Yeah, I mean I've run into thatbefore, um, where I've tried to
fit into a different mold thatI knew I wasn't like meant for,
if that sounds weird or if itmakes sense at all but, um, you
kind of suppress the real partsof you and I don't know it's
just not my favorite way to liveand so, like trying to embrace

(09:06):
that and, um, at the end of theday, like you can't really care
what people think, becausethey're thinking about
themselves more than they'rethinking about you and they
might like think, oh, Lily'sdoing videos again.
Like that's kind of weird, butthat'll probably be the extent
of it.
And um, the other thing I'velearned is like if people
criticize you and they're notdoing anything with their lives,

(09:26):
they're just losers and so likewhy would you want to listen to
a loser?

Lily (09:30):
yeah, so it's.
It's just important, like the,it's not worth living that way,
just like forgetting yourselfand not acting like because you
want to be like.
Authentic you want to.
You want to be your own selfwith people.
You want to be comfortable.
Authentic you want to be yourown self with people.
You want to be comfortable inyour own self is what I mean to
say.
Like I would just it's not funliving a fake life.

Brett (09:55):
Yeah, you don't want to do it.

Lily (09:56):
Which I guess a lot of people do actually, and it's sad
because, like you kind of, ifyou've ever dealt with that,
then you'll kind of understandand you'll be, like I want to
help that I don't know that'sfor me.
I want to help people who wouldfeel like that.

Brett (10:14):
How do you do that?
How do you find those people?
Because I'm sure they're around, especially in high school.

Lily (10:18):
Definitely, I think first, if they maybe let me think yeah
.

Brett (10:28):
No, no pressure, you got time.
This thing can go for fourhours if we want to.
You can think all you want.

Lily (10:34):
Yeah, I think you could find those people by seeing who
judges others.
A lot of people judge othersbecause they think others are
judging them, just if that makessense 100%.

Brett (10:48):
Yeah, I actually just had .
On Wednesday I had this girlwho I saw on TikTok.
She posted this video and thisone's going to come out after
that.
So I apologize, but you mighthave heard the story.
But she had this experience, um, experience where she went to
the gym and she's kind of abigger lady and, um, I mean her

(11:10):
I can say that because we talkedabout it and like her whole,
her whole tagline is I'm fat andI'm working on it.
So like that's what she saysand she's like trying to get
after it at the gym, trying tomake some healthy lifestyle
changes.
And one day she went to the gymwhen, like she really didn't
want to and she saw from likethe corner of her eye, there
were these kids, like teenagers,who were like making like fat

(11:31):
motions with their stomach andlike laughing and stuff like
that, and she's like, oh, that'sweird, like maybe that wasn't
towards me, whatever.
So she ignored it.
And then she looks over againand they're kind of like
pointing at her and likelaughing still.
And she's like this is and likelaughing still, and she's like
this is really weird, um, and soshe like takes her headphone
out and she's like hey, can Ihelp you guys?
Like what's going on, yeah, andone of the kids looks at her

(11:52):
and is like oh no, we don't needhelp from you, fatty.
And, like she just said, it washorrible.
And so she went into her car andshe filmed a video about like
she's like I don't want to bethe person who's crying on the
internet, but like this happenedto me.
It was horrible and, um, it waskind of cool, cause the
opposite happened on Tik TOK.

(12:13):
Like everyone jumped in, likewas like supporting her, and a
huge influencers were like hey,I'm sorry, like I just paid for
your gym membership for a year,like don't let that stop you,
and like all these cool things.
Like everyone supported her andstuff, and so I think it's rare
when things like that happen.
But to the judging piece, likeyou were saying, her whole thing
is like she didn't know how toreact in that moment.

(12:35):
But now, if it ever comes upagain, like she can either step
up for someone else or like saysomething, because like that's
not a cool way to act.
You and I, when we were drivingover here in the car, we were
like it's funny because, likeyou meet people who are adults,
who act like they're kids andreally, at the end of the day,
it's like we're all just bigkids, like it's really it, like

(12:56):
I still feel like I'm your age,as weird as that sounds, but um,
yeah, I think it's important tolike step up and help others.

Lily (13:04):
No, like actual person who's comfortable in their self
would make fun of someone else Ahundred percent.
Like everyone who is comfortablein being themselves and not
worried about what others thinkyou.
Like you're not going to makefun of someone.
I think what's good, like to bemindful about is like, if
you're talking, this is to justhelp you feel better about

(13:29):
yourself so that you can stopbeing mean to yourself.
Is, if you're saying somethingmean about yourself, think like
before you say it, or before youthink, or whatever.
Just be like, oh, would I saythat to.
Like another person yeah,that's huge.
Just be like, oh, would I saythat to another person.
Yeah, that's huge.
I don't know If you're beingmean to yourself.
Just stop and think like, oh, Iwould not say this to another

(13:51):
person, so why should I say itabout myself?

Brett (13:53):
Yeah, that's such a good lesson.
See, you're 17.
You're wise.
I didn't learn any of thosethings.
That lesson, specifically, Ididn't learn until I got married
to Allie.
Um, like being nice to yourself, and that kind of thing.
Because she'd come to the gymwith me and she would notice
like I was really mad and soshe'd be like why are you so

(14:13):
angry?
And I remember I told her I waslike I'm just really mean to
myself and I would always kindof like cuss myself out in my
head and like tell myself reallybad stuff.
Um, cause, like I wasn'tperforming the way I wanted to
in the gym.
And she's like you can't talkto yourself like that.
And she's like you gotta beyour own biggest cheerleader.
And she's like if I mean,you're not going to have that a

(14:36):
lot in the world, so you mightas well support yourself.
And I think it goes back tolike what you're saying about
just staying true to who you are, which I'm curious how have you
found out who you are?
I mean, you're 17.

Lily (14:51):
You've got a lot of big choices coming up.
Yeah, I mean I still have moregrowing to do, but I think,
reflecting and being accountablefor everything that you've done
and I don't know, that's a goodquestion, because I really have
no idea.
I feel like it kind of justhappened, you know like through

(15:11):
experience, I assume yeah, yeahdefinitely like, through trials
and tribulations, like I'velearned how to help myself and
how to stay true to myself andbe confident yeah.
Yeah, and I think it's importantto be confident and if people
once you are confident, then Ifeel like you are true to

(15:34):
yourself, you know.

Brett (15:34):
Absolutely yeah.

Lily (15:36):
Like just own it.

Brett (15:37):
It's not like um, there's a couple of things you said
there that I want to touch onfor a second, but, um, yeah,
like confidence it comes fromwhat you said.
Like trials, challenges, uh, wealways say like confidence
comes from doing hard things.
Um, which is a lesson fromAli's dad, actually, that he
would say, which is like whyteam Tim is kind of a thing.
Um, you know it's, you can dohard things and confidence comes

(16:00):
from doing them.
Um, because I think duringthose times, you know it's like
I didn't give up on myself, Ididn't uh quit when I wanted to
quit, and that's hard, like it's.
It's a hard thing to dosometimes, but the lessons you
learned during that are areworth it.
Um, we don't have to get superinto the details here, but
what's been like a trial thatyou've had to face that taught

(16:21):
you a lot about who you are.

Lily (16:24):
I'd say just people who bring you down, people who've
brought me down, like, even likepeople at school, you know like
it's just someone who's kind ofI'm trying to think of how I
could, I guess I'm trying tothink of how I could, I guess

(16:46):
there's.
There's just been like timeswhere, um, someone, like people,
have been like bring, justbringing me down mentally and
just like hurting me.
Yeah.
And like mentally.
Yeah, and like mentally, soI've learned to.

(17:09):
Just, you know, that's whatthey think, but I, or that's
what they're saying, yeah, whoknows if that's actually what
they mean.
I'm not going to focus on that,like I'm not going to focus on
their words.
That hurt, I don't know.
This doesn't really make sense,but I think it does.

Brett (17:20):
I mean, I think you're saying a lot.
That's true, um, I mean,there's people out there who are
hurt and I don't.
I don't know if you listen toJoe Rogan and I can't recommend
him to you cause he swears a lot, but, um, he always says, like
the thing hurt people, hurtpeople.

Lily (17:38):
Yeah.

Brett (17:38):
And that really is like from my own experience, um, from
seeing other people like gothrough hard things like because
of other people's decisions.
It's because those people whodo that to the like either to
you or to me or anyone they'redoing it out of a place because
they're hurt themselves, they'rein pain or you know they've

(17:59):
been hurt and they just need anoutlet to give it on.
And sometimes you know that'sthem being rude or being mean or
trying to find someone else tobring down.
But that's kind of what I'velearned through like experiences
, through myself is like okay,well, I don't need to take their
opinions seriously because theythemselves are hurt people.

Lily (18:23):
Right.
So that's why you just don'ttake it to heart.

Brett (18:25):
Yeah.

Lily (18:26):
Because what they're saying is just projecting.
They're projecting theirfeelings, their hurt feelings,
on you when it's actually liketowards themselves.

Brett (18:36):
A hundred percent and it's sad, it really is sad, but
um, I don't know.
I think it just gives you adifferent perspective and a lot
of times it's not easy to hearno-transcript.

Lily (19:12):
Like little little things, you learn from them and you
move on.
Yeah, I don't know if thatmakes sense, but yeah I say,
don't focus on all those detailsyeah focus on how much you've
grown from that whole situation.
You know absolutely.

Brett (19:23):
Do you know how steel is made?
Um no, so steel is basicallyiron oh, yeah, but actually I'm
not gonna.
No, you're good, um, like if, ifyou want to make steel, you
have to make it incredibly hard,like hot, and then you have to
beat it into like submissionpretty much.
And like you, I don't know,you've probably heard this

(19:44):
analogy of a blacksmith.
But if they're making like areally sharp and beautiful sword
, it's gonna take a lot of workand it's gonna start with like a
block of iron.
And they're making like areally sharp and beautiful sword
, it's going to take a lot ofwork and it's going to start
with like a block of iron andthey're going to heat it up and
they're going to beat it andthey're going to shape it and
it's going to go through a wholetransformation process, but at
the end of the day, it's goingto be like really sharp and
strong sword, which ultimatelyis like you and I were talking

(20:05):
about this in the car too.
We can't choose what happens tous in our lives, but we choose
how we respond to them, and Ithink that's how you learn, like
you said, and you're forged inthose trials, um, based off of
your decisions.
Uh, because I mean, we can alltake the easy route, place blame
on other people, like get madat them for what they said or

(20:26):
like what they did to us, butjust makes you bitter Like it's.
It's not a good way to live.
You have to just likeforgiveness is a huge thing.

Lily (20:35):
I 100% agree.
Like for anyone who has hurt me, I, I was kind of bitter
towards them for a long time,but then I just I started
thinking, like it's not you knowwhat, like I'm not going to
blame them anymore, I'm justgoing to forgive them.
I you don't have to forgivesomeone for what they did, but

(20:58):
or you don't have to forgivesomeone for them.
You can forgive them foryourself for your sake, so you
can move on.
Like that's so important aboutforgiveness is that you can
forgive for yourself, not likefor others it's kind of selfish
in a way.

Brett (21:12):
But like I was just thinking that it really is like
it's best for your mental healthand for your overall confidence
to be like you know what?
Yeah, it doesn't matter, likelet's let it slide.
And I know we're talking veryhigh level here because, like,
there are people who have beenhurt and really like in some

(21:33):
terrible situations from otherpeople, but at the end of the
day, like I don't know, I'm abeliever in Christ and he taught
us how to forgive.
He's forgiven me for so manythings.
And so he always says, like Ican't remember the quote, but
basically, but basically, it'sso important to forgive other

(21:54):
people, you have to forgiveother people.
It's like that quote that hesays in the Bible, where I don't
know who it was, it was one ofhis apostles but he's like Lord,
how many times should weforgive someone who's wronged us
?
And he's like 70 times 7, whichwhich is basically like it
doesn't matter how many times,like just always forgive them.
Um, because, like you said, Ithink it just puts you in a

(22:15):
better mental state and then abetter place to make decisions,
and like that confidence comesfrom enduring some of those
things sometimes and it sucks,yeah, but but in the end you've
grown and you learn things yeahI think it is important, even
though it sucks.

Lily (22:31):
You should definitely go through hard things you don't
like don't take the high road.

Brett (22:40):
Never take the high road, just kidding.
Always be the worst.

Lily (22:44):
No, what I meant to say is like don't just blame other
people.
Yeah.
And like I don't even knowactually where I was going with
that.
Just stay true to yourself, beaccountable.

Brett (22:58):
Be accountable.

Lily (23:00):
Help yourself, be kind to yourself.

Brett (23:03):
Yeah.

Lily (23:03):
Kind of what I was trying to say.

Brett (23:05):
No, that's awesome and what's odd about that is being
kind to yourself sometimes meansgetting after it and doing
difficult things.
I run for other people now Irun for myself, but also just
sometimes going to the gymbecause I know it's healthy, I
know it's good for my body.

(23:26):
Sometimes it just sucks.
We were talking about gettingafter it.
Sorry, we had some technicaldifficulties.
The splitter almost died, sojumping in front of that.
But yeah, getting after it islike I don't know what I've
learned about it is.
It requires discipline.
Um, but discipline is, in myopinion, the highest form of

(23:46):
self-love that you can dobecause, like in anything, like
anything, like if it's in yourdiet, like your body's gonna
love you more if you give itsome good food.
Like eat some chicken and somevegetables rather than pizza
every day.
Like, obviously it's okay tohave balance, but, um, but in
moderation in moderation, yeah,and so like there are days like
I think I was talking about thegym when I just don't want to go

(24:08):
, but I I always feel betterwhen I do, and um, that's like
one of the biggest confidencebuilders for me, uh, because
like I show up when I don't wantto do it and like it sucks, and
um, that's like something I cannever avoid is the suck
sometimes, especially on runs,like, man, I gotta get you

(24:30):
running soon.
You're gonna do team team timnext year, by the way I know I
will it's in mesa oh yeah, ohyeah.

Lily (24:38):
I kind of wish I went to las vegas though that one was
fun, that was a good time I'mjust I'm really not good at
running.
I did, you know, I did in sixthgrade.
I wanted to be in track first.
Well, like we were talkingabout if we wanted to do sports
in middle school, not militaryschool.
And bro, my brain is like goinga hundred miles an hour like

(25:00):
all the time, so I have no cluewhat I'm saying.
That's okay, but so yeah we weretalking about sports and what
we were doing in middle schooland or what if we wanted to?
And I was like you know whattrack sounds fun?
What if we wanted to?
And I was like you know whattrack sounds fun?
And I really wanted to do it,but I never tried out and now I
hate running.
So maybe if I had done track Iwould love it you want to know

(25:21):
something crazy?

Brett (25:22):
what I also hated running really oh yeah and drew yeah,
drew, drew told me before.
And when was it?
I think it was, uh, november of2023.
So the year Allie and I gotmarried, he Allie, went down to
run a race with Emily.
Um, I think it was likeThanksgiving weekend or
something like that.

(25:42):
Yeah, and Drew showed up and, um, he told Allie he's like I'm
never going to run.
And Allie's like, come on, yougot to do team Tim.
He's like, nope, not doing it.
And he's like I'm never gonnarun.
And ali's like, come on, yougotta do team tim.
He's like, nope, not doing it.
And he's like I hate it, like Ialways feel terrible doing it.
And then, um two weeks later,he called me and he's like, hey,
I want to run team tim, willyou help me out?
And I'm like yes, and now he'syou can't stop the guy yeah,

(26:03):
he's like freaking a runningfiend he's, he's running a 50k
with ali and I in october, oh mygosh.
And then him and I are doing 50milers, 50 miles in sedona next
year in april.

Lily (26:17):
So you guys are crazy.
I don't.
He's a beast.
I think I could do that youcould.

Brett (26:21):
That's the thing, that's true, no, yeah don't limit
yourself, guys yeah, don't limityourself and um, usually, like
with stuff like that, you, youjust start out small, you start
where you can and you'll buildthat base up and be like oh yeah
, maybe I can do this Um.
So yeah, I'll, I'll get you inthere.
Okay, you want to know a secrettoo?
Yes, I'm building out programsfor people who want to start

(26:42):
running.
Um, there's like I'll do a 5kone, a 10 K, a half marathon and
then a marathon one, and solike, if people who have
somewhat experience with running, then they can sign up and do
like the half marathon, or ifthey don't, then I'll get them
ready for like with a 5k.
Um, but you can be my guineapig, I'll send them to you.

Lily (27:00):
I was going to say fun, that that does not that, whoa
Sorry, that does sound fun.
Um, I mean, I like racing, youknow yeah like all.
I mean, maybe this is just asibling thing.
But I'll tell my siblings like,oh, I race you to this and they
are like a little younger thanme, a lot younger actually, but

(27:23):
I don't know.

Brett (27:23):
I think it's fun, so maybe I could get into running
you could I yeah, I think Icould you've always been an
athlete, though, like you'vealways been an active kid.

Lily (27:33):
Yeah, so you could do it I really do wish I did more,
though, like, besides dance andstuff, I really I've always
wanted to do gymnastics I alwaysthought that was cool, or you
know, oh my gosh, I've reallybeen into ice skating, I think
really yeah, I love ice skatingso much dang, you gotta move up
to yuzawa I know they got iceskating everywhere, at least in

(27:56):
the winter time.
In the summer time I don't knowbut like it's so fun and hockey
too hockey looks fun.
I would never play it, thoughno, yeah, it's crazy.

Brett (28:04):
Yeah, it's a crazy sport it really is.

Lily (28:08):
It's just like it's crazy determination and like there's.

Brett (28:13):
They're moving so fast on the ice too.
Like I remember I served mymission in minnesota and, like
everyone out there, they alllove hockey and um, I just
remember seeing like fights allthe time because people would
not turn the tvs off when wecame over.
There'd be fights all the timeand then you'd see like people
like sliding down the icebecause they'd fall.
Oh no, it's just brutal.
It's a brutal sport, but it'spretty cool.

Lily (28:33):
Yeah, it is cool but it's kind of scary.
But I think ice skating is morelike.
I think it's so pretty.
Ice skaters are just amazing.

Brett (28:43):
I think you should try stuff.
You gotta try it.

Lily (28:46):
Yeah, I just feel like I'm too old.
What you?
Yeah, I just feel like I'm tooold.
What you're 17?
No, you're not.
Well, because, like kids, startice skating when they're like
five or something.
Yeah, they just start so young.
So I'm like I.
I do think I'm pretty good atice skating, though for the most
part I have fallen a coupletimes.

Brett (29:03):
I mean I think you should try it if you want to do it
like I am.
Of course, there's people whohave been doing it forever, yeah
, like.
There's this runner out therewho I wish I could be some
somewhat like.
His name's truett haynes, andhe broke the world record this
year for pull-ups, so he did10,001 pull-ups in 24 hours, and
then he backed it like justwithin 24 hours, he did 10,001,

(29:27):
like he would do.
He'd jump up and I think, likedo 10 every few minutes.
And then, like he just ran theBoston Marathon, which is like
one of the best marathons to runto, as, like a runner, you have
to qualify for that.
He ran it in two hours and 36minutes in a pair of jeans, and
so, like he's just a monster,yeah, and like he posted, no,

(29:52):
he's just a monster.
And like he posted, no, he'spretty short, actually, but like
he's just a beast when it comesto running and like anything
fitness wise, he's so good, um,but he posted this picture of
him where he was running withhis dad in half marathon when he
was six years old, and so he'sbeen running since he was like a
little kid as soon as he couldwalk, he was running.
And so it's like that's notfair to me to compare myself to

(30:13):
him because he's been doing itfor so long.
Like I'm on my own path, I'm onmy own journey, and that's what
I would say to you too.

Lily (30:31):
It's like you're on your own journey and that's what's
cool about your age right now isyou have so many opportunities
to kind of decide what you wantto do and where you want to go.
Um, what's that feeling like?
It's been a long time since Ifelt it.
Um, it's.
I think it's exciting becauseit's like, oh, my gosh, like
there's so much that I could do,like, but it's also a little
nerve wracking because there isso much that I could do.
Like I don't know what?
you know, it's hard to chooseright now.
Like I want to do cosmetologyschool, but ali was just telling

(30:53):
me like being a flightattendant would be really cool.

Brett (30:57):
So I'm like deciding oh, there's that, I mean yeah
there's so many cool things thatyou could do, and that's what's
great is like you can try onething.
If it doesn't work out, you cantry another one.
Um, so, yeah, what's?
Uh?
What are you thinking aboutdoing in the future?

Lily (31:12):
I would really love to do cosmetology school, because I
just think it's so neat how likeit's cosmetology all like, oh,
it's just hair well, actually Ihave really no clue I believe
it's hair, but there's.
Oh yeah, because there's thisother thing.
I look, I forgot what it'scalled.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
It's like esthetician oh yeah, yeah, which is emily's
anesthetician oh yeah, so it'slike makeup and um skincare or
something yeah but cosmetologyis like hair and stuff.

Lily (31:45):
But that's what I would love to do, just because I think
it's so cool how a stylistcould bring up someone's like.
They could just make someonelook so beautiful and make that
person so happy.
Yeah.

Brett (32:00):
Make them confident.

Lily (32:00):
Exactly that's.
What I would love to do is justto help other people feel more
confident in their self and justbe happy with their true self.
I guess yeah.

Brett (32:12):
Where'd you get this love for wanting to help people so
much?
Because, like you've alwaysbeen that way.

Lily (32:17):
I don't know.
I think I've always been like aa people pleaser.

Brett (32:24):
I don't know about that.
I think you just want people tobe happy.
That's true, yeah.

Lily (32:28):
Well, I, just like I, want others to feel how I feel you
know, I want them to feel happyas well.
I want them to feel confident in, like you know, what they do in
their life.
I want them to just be, yeah, Ijust want them to be happy.
Yeah, be, yeah, I just wantthem to be happy.

(32:52):
Yeah.
When I see others who are likesad, then like I kind of feel
sad, sad just because theyshouldn't be feeling that way,
you know, yeah.
Well, no, they can.
You can feel your emotions, youcan have emotions, but I just
want them to have like a goodlife.
You know, I want them to enjoy,like what's happening to them
and stuff.

Brett (33:12):
Why do you think confidence is so important?

Lily (33:16):
Just because I feel like it makes you happier you know,
like I, when I, I used to justkind of back to you know people
comparing themselves to other,like I used to do that I still
sometimes do just because I'mlike, oh, that person has, that
person is has so many friendsand yeah, um, or just just

(33:38):
comparing myself, and I'm likeyou know what?
Like why should I be doing this?
I'm gonna do my own thing, I'mgonna be happy and confident,
and so I don't.
I just feel like confidence isso important because I don't
know.
I'm kind of going on a rant now, but you can go as many rants
as you want.

Brett (33:56):
That's what a podcast is for.
I agree, yeah, like confidence.
Um, like I said, you gotta beyour own biggest cheerleader.

Lily (34:06):
Yeah.

Brett (34:07):
And sometimes like it's going to get to the point in
life Um, I felt this, I'm sureyou've probably felt this and if
not, you probably will wherethere's not very many people
cheering you on and if also yourinner voice is telling you that
you're not going to be able todo this thing, whatever it is,
or you're not going to be ableto, um, to be successful in

(34:30):
anything that you want.
Like that's going to be hard,and I first learned that when I
went up to college, because it'slike the first time I was a
hundred percent on my own Cause,even on the mission.
You're like tied to someone thewhole time.
You're screwed up just a littlebit.
Lights in your face, there yougo.
I was like there we go, fixingon on the spot, but even on the

(34:52):
mission, like you're tied tosomeone 24 7 and it doesn't
really feel like you're alone,like you don't really have to
make any big decisions, it'sjust like you go out and you
talk to people about jesuschrist.
That's really it.
But at college it was like thatwas the first time I remember I
was like, okay, well, it's allon me now, yeah, to get a job to

(35:13):
make enough money where I cansustain myself and also did work
really hard in school.
And then, like everyone mostpeople want to go to college and
like hang out with friends andlike have the regular college
experience.
But like, at the end of the dayI was just so tired, yeah, and I
was like man, like I shouldprobably study, um, I had a

(35:33):
full-time job so I like workedthat into my schedule with
school.
But by the end of the day I waslike the last thing I want to
do is go out and like hang outwith people and do that.
But I recognize it's like it'simportant, um, like it's so
important to have socialconnection, and like Um, like
it's so important to have socialconnection and like that's all

(35:54):
on you.
It's a.
It's a hard thing to sometimesgrasp, like, but if your
confidence wanes and you startnot believing that you can do
everything, or like that you canpush through and like study,
balance a job, balance time withfriends, um, balance time with
God, because I think that'sreally important, at least, you
know, for me and so many others.

(36:15):
But, um, it's going to gettough and you have to just learn
how to keep yourself going andcheer yourself on during the way
.

Lily (36:23):
Yeah, you have to be your own best friend.

Brett (36:25):
Yeah, it's tough, it's hard, but do you want to go to
school?
If you don't go to cosmetologyschool?
Like, what's your, what's yourplan there?

Lily (36:32):
I really have no idea.
I do think I do want to go toschool, but I just have no clue
for what you know.
Yeah.
I think right now I'm debatingon cosmetology school or being a
flight attendant, just becauseI think I would be a decent flat
attendant, because I likehelping others.

Brett (36:51):
I think you'd be great yeah.

Lily (36:52):
And it's also kind of easy .
I well, that depends on thetype of person that you're like
helping out.

Brett (36:58):
Yeah, I'm, you'll deal with some wackos, but you will
in every single job, like, yeah,that's the thing you were
telling me.
There's some people, you knowWalgreens, that show up and
they're not the happiest bunch,um, but that kind of happens
everywhere you go.
So, and I don't know with withwhat you've talked about, with
um, emotional maturity and likehow you've dealt with things

(37:18):
right now in your life likeyou'd be fine doing that stuff,
um, so again, like I think itcomes down to figuring out like
what I want to do, what'sexciting to me.
How can it be my most true selfin whatever it is?

Lily (37:35):
Um, also, if you're a flight attendant, you could fly
anywhere you want it.
So I know that's pretty sweet,I know, and like being with
Allie, like going on her flights, that would be so fun.

Brett (37:41):
You probably would and you probably honestly would.
If you're in Mesa, youdefinitely would.
Um, but yeah, if you ever makeit up to Utahah or anything like
that, wherever you want to go,like, yeah, you'd be on some
flights and it'd be pretty coolthat would be so cool.

Lily (37:55):
I really I don't know.
I don't know where I want tolive, because utah sounds fun
but also it's, it was really hotthis summer, it it still is
yeah, no, it's it was really badit's gross when I went up I was
like I literally I brought likethree sweatshirts really yeah
one pair of shorts and like thejeans and and when we went to
the amusement park I swear Iprobably were was like

(38:18):
dehydrated, maybe like twicethat whole trip, just because it
was so hot in the sun yeah itwas so bad, it gets tough, and
then you're at elevation too andso, like the sun feels like
it's closer, um, even thoughit's like 3000 feet closer, but
um, yeah, you went to Lagoon,huh.
Yeah, it was really fun, but itkind of sucked because of how
hard it was.

Brett (38:36):
Really.

Lily (38:37):
Yeah, I was like dying.
I was like guys, I don't knowif I can do this.

Brett (38:39):
Yeah, my, um, my work, they like do it every year but
they take the whole company toLagoon and, um, this year I was
like I'm not going because, like, ally wasn't up there and I was
like, ah man, I don't want towait in lines all day.
And it's like what you said.
It was like I don't know 95degrees or something yeah, it
was.

Lily (38:56):
So it was.
Yeah, it was like 90 yeah, itwas in the 90s, the whole trip,
which I think is better thanit's better than arizona.

Brett (39:03):
Yeah, but man 120 degrees and it's been humid yeah but
man, you know what's crazy islike.
When I moved up to utah for thefirst time, I always never
imagined myself moving up toutah, really never.
I always like sweared it off.
Um, really, I mean, yeah, talkto drew, talk to pa, like they
will tell you the same thingthat utah's the worst.

(39:25):
And so I always believed that.
And then I moved up there for ajob and I just fell in love
with it Cause, like themountains are there.

Lily (39:33):
The mountains are pretty.

Brett (39:34):
It's gorgeous and like I don't know the people that are
great Um, it's different thanliving in the desert, yeah, but
I think what I learned duringthat time was, like you get to
decide, you make the most ofwhatever situation you're in Um,
of whatever situation you're inum, like, and I did, and I fell
in love with utah because of it.
And now when I come here, it'slike I'm visiting, which is
weird because I've been here,for I lived here for 24 years

(39:57):
that's crazy, it's pretty wild,it's so crazy how old everyone's
getting I'm an old man?
no, you're not.

Lily (40:02):
I'm getting there, you know, I was thinking like the
other day I was talking to mydad, shout out to him um shout
out to.
Yeah, I forgot to shout him outearlier, but I was telling him
like dude I hope he doesn't getmad that I say his age, but he's
not that old.
I was like dude, you're like 38years old, Like that's so young
.
He had me when he was like 21,22.

(40:23):
Yeah, that's so young.
Like I don't know it, like Idon't know.
It's just so crazy.
It is weird like I'm how youngeveryone is, like I still have
grandma geege is still here andyeah, that's wild, it's I know
right, I wish that I went to herparty this year, but I didn't

(40:43):
but yeah, it's just so crazy howlike I have all my family and I
think for that I'm so gratefulbecause I like not a lot of
people have all of their familymembers like with them, so it's
just I'm also.
I really wish that, um,everyone could experience like

(41:04):
what I have experienced growingup, like just having family
around.
You know.

Brett (41:10):
Yeah, we really are fortunate with that.
Like, um, I don't know, beingmarried to Allie, like her
talking about her dad uh passingaway and things like that I, um
, I've learned through her how,like, precious life is and to
never take it for granted, likebecause things could happen Like
her dad got cancer and passedaway.

(41:30):
And, um, the friend that I ranmy ultra marathon for last year,
he had stage four colon cancer.
I think he was like 30, I thinkhe was like 38 at the time or
something like that, so he wasyoung, he had a family of six
and, like you just don't knowwhat's coming around and so, um,
it's just a place of gratitude.
Like gratitude is reallyimportant.

(41:52):
That's something that gets youthrough like some of the hardest
days.
Yeah, you've always been agrateful kid, like I think you
recognize that like theimportance of life and the
importance of hanging out withpeople that you love.

Lily (42:05):
Yeah, I think that's also part of being like a people
person.
Yeah.
It's just like you're grateful.
I don't know.
I'm grateful for what I have.
I try to be, you know, becauseI'm also mindful of what others
don't.

Brett (42:19):
Yeah, a hundred percent.

Lily (42:20):
So it's just like this, like my whole life is just like
a blessing, you know.

Brett (42:27):
Yeah, yeah, we, we seriously, are so blessed and
like, um, allie and I went overto our friend Rosie's house
yesterday and I think she's 86,but she lives alone.
Um, she has no family in Arizona, like they're all I think her
son's in Utah and then she haslike nieces and nephews that

(42:47):
live all over the country, butum, she like it's it's rare for
her to get interaction fromothers and like I know it's hard
on her she's she's talked aboutit before.
Um, and like every time I goover there I'm like man, I am
just so lucky, like I obviouslyfeel so bad for her and, um,

(43:07):
like I love her and so like wego over there and spend time
with her because like we don'twant her to feel that way, but
at the end of the day it's likeman, like it just brings
gratitude.
And it might sound bad to saythat, like other people's
situations make you reflect onyour own and be like you know
what, at least I have peopleright.
Um, or, like you know, nowadaysI always am grateful for my

(43:30):
health because I mean you watchme go through like my health
stuff and I'm just so glad I'mthrough that.
Like that I don't have to dealwith that kind of stuff, and so
gratitude is important, likethat also is something that will
like get you through some hardtimes.

Lily (43:44):
Yeah, exactly, I also like when I notice like, oh, this
person, like I mean, we're alldifferent in different ways, but
you know, when others might nothave something that I do and
they're sad about it, like Ijust want them to feel.
Yeah, for sure.
That's why I like helping othersis just because, like, I don't

(44:05):
know, I'm trying to think of howI could word this, I don't know
, I'm trying to think of how Icould word this, but, um, just,
I just like, um helping othersso that they feel I don't know,
they feel like they didn't losesomething or that they don't
have something else.

Brett (44:22):
I don't know.

Lily (44:22):
I tried to make them feel normal is what.
I'm trying to say is I like Iwant to make them feel as normal
and regular as possible, Iguess.

Brett (44:32):
Yeah, I think it's important.
It's just showing love.
A lot of people don't have lovein their life and that's sad.
It really is sad, and I thinkthat's why some people act out
kind of what we were saying inthe beginning.
They are in a place of pain andsometimes it's just because
they don't have love and it's asad thing to see.
But, um, I mean, what's cool isthat our conversation has kind

(44:57):
of been around that topic oflike talking to other people,
reaching out to them when theyneed it or being, like you said,
you want to help other peoplefeel confident and feel happy
about themselves.
But I think that comes downfrom love.

Lily (45:07):
Like you love people and, yeah, um, even if they're like,
if they're rude or you know,like, yeah, I have, I still have
love for them it's toughsometimes, but like yeah yeah I
do agree.

Brett (45:21):
It's like, um, like, maybe they just had a really bad
day, like you don't know.

Lily (45:26):
You don't know what they're going through like you
don't know how, like whatthey're thinking or how their
life has been.
Yeah.
What struggles they've gonethrough.
So I think it's and it'simportant to be mindful of that.
Pay attention like read, readthe room, or I don't know.
It doesn't make sense, but justpay attention to how they're

(45:47):
acting and don't forget that,like people, go through trials
and stuff.

Brett (45:56):
Do you know who Elder Eyring is?

Lily (45:59):
Yeah.

Brett (45:59):
He has this quote where he says, like, if you treat
people like they're goingthrough something very difficult
, he said, 99% of the timeyou'll be right Because, like,
everyone deals with differentchallenges.
Like Allie and I are goingthrough something right now with
, like, trying to have kids.
It's not great, there's a lotof uncertainty, but you know,
it's something that we're likehey, at least we have each other

(46:22):
and stuff like that, and so Ithink it's just important to
have perspective too and try andlearn from what your situation
is Trying to teach you.
I guess situation is Um tryingto teach you.
I guess is what I'm trying tosay there.
But yeah, it's interesting,it's a, it's a weird thing
sometimes Life is not easy, butit is.

Lily (46:41):
I think you can definitely make it easier by being there
for others, though.

Brett (46:46):
Have you ever had a time where someone was there for you?
What was that like?

Lily (46:50):
Yeah, like my parents.
My parents I mean my family.
Another thing that I'm verygrateful for.
How?

Brett (46:58):
did that make you feel Like when you needed someone.
What was that like?

Lily (47:03):
Loved.
It made me feel grateful, youknow.
Also, it made me feel likehappy and fortunate, you know,
Um also, it made me feel likehappy and fortunate you know,
not a lot of people have othersto lean on or anything, so when,
like, people are there for mealso my best friend I don't know
if she's going to listen tothis, but she's also been- there

(47:24):
she better.
She, I know Right.

Brett (47:26):
I'm just kidding.

Lily (47:27):
Yeah, she better, um, she better.
I mean all of my friends,actually Everyone in my life.
I don't have anyone in my lifewho is not or who has not been
there for me.
Everyone who is in my life.
They've taken care of me,they've helped me when I'm in

(47:52):
need.
And that's what I've done forthem.
I tried to, at least you know.

Brett (47:56):
I was just about to say I think that's why you want to
make a career where you'rehelping people, like you've
always been kind of that way,like you've always focused on
the needs of other people, and,um, I think it's cool.
So, yeah, just keep doing it.
The world needs more light.
That's why people, when theycome into Walgreens, they're
like oh yeah, you have greataura.
Like yeah you should tell thatstory actually.

Lily (48:18):
Okay, okay, so let.
Okay, I was, um, I work atWalgreens, I'm a front counter
person, I ring people up,basically.
So this guy came in and I wasringing him out, or I was
ringing him up, and, uh, once hewas finished, I was like, okay,
here's your receipt and coupon,whatever.
And he goes oh, by the way, youhave really good aura and I was

(48:41):
like I was like, oh, thanks.
I was like, yeah, thanks,that's so cool.
I mean that stuff I don'treally know a lot about, but
it's cool to like learn about itor and, um, you know, hear
about it.
And he was like, yeah, albertEinstein talks a lot about it
and I'm a Christian.
But yeah, I was like, oh, okay,I'm going to have to look that

(49:03):
up, by the way.
I don't ever remember AlbertEinstein talking about aura?
I don't either.
I only remember him talkingabout like E equals MC, squared,
or whatever.

Brett (49:10):
That was good.
Yeah, e equals MC squared.

Lily (49:13):
Yeah.

Brett (49:14):
Do you know what the E stands for?

Lily (49:16):
Energy.

Brett (49:16):
Energy.
Am I right, let's go yeah.

Lily (49:19):
Yeah, that was a guess.
Yeah.
Yeah, and then, yeah, that wasit.

Brett (49:23):
That's so good.

Lily (49:32):
But then someone else came up to you and was like, oh yeah
, oh yeah, my co-worker did say,um, that I had white aura, and
it was like I don't reallyremember what she said, but she
was, it was really big and I waslike, thanks, like that's.
It was kind of funny, but Ithought it was a compliment, you
know, yeah, I mean it justshows like people can see that
you're different.

Brett (49:45):
I think it's because, like you want to, like you're
just a happy person.
And I think it's um amazing tobecause, like, you've gone
through some hard things in yourlife in your 17 years and, like
um, you're not bitter, which Ithink is an amazing thing.
There's so many people who gothrough hard circumstances and

(50:06):
they just place blame on otherpeople and they blame um God,
they blame their, theirsituations, and they they just
try and figure out like who canI get angry at for this?
And it leads to a pretty angryand sad life.
Um, you become hollow and I'vedone it before, like where I've

(50:27):
tried placing blame on otherpeople or like, um, it's, yeah,
it's just not a great way tolive, and so I think those times
have shaped you into who youare and because of that, it's
like you've learned how to behappy.
Yeah, I think it's cool andbecause of that, it's like
you've learned how to be happy.

Lily (50:43):
Yeah, I think it's cool.
Yeah, I agree, it's just, it'simportant to not lose yourself
in bad situations.
Yeah.
Always, again, always, staytrue to yourself, you know.

Brett (50:54):
How do you stay true to yourself?
What are some things like youlike to do in your free time?
Because I think that tells youa lot about what you like to do
or like like who you are atleast not who you are, but the
things you're interested in.

Lily (51:10):
Yeah, uh, I mean, I think, hanging out with my friends or
like my family, I I mean what ishanging out with friends now?

Brett (51:14):
look like, because I'm sure it's different than what it
was like when I was in highschool I mean, I guess we do
kind of make like videos, butyeah like tiktoks like okay
funny, not funny ones, I don'tknow actually, yeah is that all
you guys do is just make tiktoks?

Lily (51:30):
no, not just tiktoks, like we'll go.
Like me and my friend jaydenjust went and saw lilo and
stitch oh, nice weeks ago um, sojust doing fun stuff like going
to the movies or the mall, orme and my friend denver have
been trying to go ice skating- Ilove that.

Brett (51:48):
That's so cool yeah, I did.

Lily (51:50):
Uh, we went ice skating for my birthday last year and
she was the only one of myfriends who actually enjoyed it
really yeah, and so I was likewell, I haven't gone ice skating
this year like at all, so let'sgo yeah and.
But we've been really busy withlike work and family and stuff.

Brett (52:03):
So I know it's tough.

Lily (52:05):
As you become an adult, your time just like somehow just
disappears I know well it'stough I don't know just yet, but
I'm getting an idea of it yeah,yeah, but like that's the thing
is.

Brett (52:16):
Like, if you're passionate about ice skating or,
um, whatever, that is like it'simportant to and it's gonna
sound weird when I say is likeit's important to and it's going
to sound weird when I say thisbut like it's important to be
disciplined enough to do thethings you love, because it's so
easy to you know, let work takeover your life and you come
home and all you want to do isjust sit on the couch, which
that's fine sometimes, but, yeah, like that's totally fine.

(52:39):
But like I think it's alsoimportant to make time for the
things that you enjoy to do, andfor me, that's running.
And so, like I love to run, Ilove to move my body, um, and it
requires discipline every timebecause, like, I can easily let
it slide, but like I love itenough to make time for it every

(53:00):
single day.
Um, I love to read.
Like that's hard with with life,and like the thing is, too is
like, as you get married, if youever want to do that, or like,
um, you know you have a familylike it's going to get more hard
, like it's it's hard because,like, I want to spend time with
Allie too, because she's thebest thing in my life, she's my
favorite person ever, and, likeI want to spend all my time with

(53:22):
her.
But it's also like, besides youyeah, you're definitely up
there, um, but like definitelywant to just also do things that
I like to do, and so, like, thepodcast is one thing that I've
learned how to incorporate intoit, and so chase your hobbies.
Chase your hobbies because,like, they'll turn into
something that is an outlet foryou.
Um, it's sad because I think alot of the the reason, um, we

(53:45):
have a mental health problem inthis country and like in the
world, is because, like, wedon't have a lot of time to do
the things that we enjoy.
Actually, I had on a therapist,um.

Lily (53:55):
Oh, I saw that, yeah, I heard a little bit of it.

Brett (53:58):
She came on and she talked about really just men's
mental health, because it wasJune and that's Men's Mental
Health Month.

Lily (54:03):
Which I think is important , because a lot of people I
think just they only talk aboutlike women's mental health which
is important.
I think both are equallyimportant.

Brett (54:14):
Yeah, I think just being but a lot of people forget about
men's mental health.
I know I've dealt with my ownbattles Like it's not been easy.
I know I've dealt with my ownbattles like it's not been easy,
like a lot of times.
It was when I was sick, but nowmy hormones are all over the
place because I have a tumor inmy freaking brain that messes up
my hormones and so, like I'velearned just to be able to find

(54:35):
things I've enjoyed and doing soit puts me in a much better
mental state.
But yeah, it's tough, likebecause life gets busy.
Yeah, yeah, just never let yourpassions die.
If I'm going to give you advice, like you're going into, you
know, your 18th year.
You're going to go maybe tocollege, maybe to flight school,
who knows?
But yeah, don't let yourpassions die.

Lily (55:00):
Yeah, I think it'll help you enjoy life a lot more.
It'll also make it easier, Iguess 100 you know, you can't
forget about your um health,your mental health, yeah yeah,
it's weird.

Brett (55:14):
Is that a big challenge in high school nowadays, like,
do do people struggle with it?

Lily (55:19):
yeah, pretty bad.
I think a lot of kids do.
I feel like school now I don'teven know.
It's just like sometimes itfeels like schools don't even
really care about their kids myschool, I don't even know.
I don't know, I don't reallylike my school actually.

Brett (55:40):
Do you think social media has something to do with it?

Lily (55:42):
Oh, 100% Really, yeah, I think, because first of all it
just I think it makes peopleless social.

Brett (55:51):
Yeah, which is odd, because it's called social media
.

Lily (55:55):
I was literally just thinking that, like it's called
social media, but yet no one'sbeing social and like I feel
like social half of social mediais just like one's being social
and everything like.
I feel like social half ofsocial media is just like fake
and like pretending yeah andthen which gets people's mental
health down, like nobody goesoutside anymore, um, nobody,
I've.
I've stopped texting a lot ofpeople really.

(56:16):
Yeah, just because I mean, ifit's like people that I don't
see, often like, I'll be like,oh hey, what's up.
But if it's like my friendsfrom school, I don't really text
them that much or FaceTimesometimes, just because I don't
like it.
Yeah, I rather see them inperson.

Brett (56:33):
Oh man, you're speaking my language here.

Lily (56:35):
Yeah.

Brett (56:35):
Allie and I like we have to distance.
Sometimes, you know, becauseshe's a pilot, she's based down
here, and times, you know,because she's a pilot, she's
based down here and like everytime she leaves I'm like, oh my
gosh, like this is going to betough because, like I hate
FaceTime, I do but like I loveher enough to like talk to her
and I want to hear how she'sdoing.
But it's like night and daydifference than when you're in
person with someone and likeyou're hanging out with them and

(56:56):
all that kind of stuff.
Um, that's one thing that Kimtalked about the therapist that
came on.
She's like the reason peoplefall into depression a lot of
the time is because they don'thave connection.

Lily (57:06):
Yeah, Like they feel like they don't have someone to lean
on.
Yeah, yeah.
They don't feel, like theycan't tell people like how
they're feeling or anything.

Brett (57:14):
That's tough.
It's hard, yeah, but I meanthat's just something that like
you got to figure out in life ishow you can have connection.
And um, yeah, I mean it getskind of more difficult as you're
an adult because, like you'renot in school anymore.
Yeah, it's like the people yousee are at church, they're at
work, um, and so like you tryand make friends that way, like

(57:37):
you meet friends for otherpeople, um, but also I've
recognized that thoseconnections are a lot more
meaningful than like in highschool.

Lily (57:46):
Yeah.

Brett (57:47):
Because I, um, you, you brought up the pack rats and I
love all those guys but Ithought, like when we were going
to graduate high school, like Ithought, you know, I
legitimately thought this Ithought we were all going to
like live by each other, causewe always talked about it and
stuff and um, but then, like weall went on our missions,
everyone came back, they went todifferent colleges and then it

(58:10):
just got hard because they madefriends there and I made friends
where I was at Um, but yeah,like it's important to have
connection in some way.
Um.

Lily (58:18):
I think it's important to stay in touch, but also it can't
be one-sided 100% I hate.
That's happened to me so much,where I'm texting people all the
time and they'll only text whenI text them.
It's annoying, so I thinkthat's also part of the reason
why I stopped texting people.

Brett (58:38):
That's fair.
I'm the worst texter, by theway, so if I text you, or if you
text me and I don't answer,it's probably just because I
don't check my messages thatmuch.
So it's nothing against you, no, just call me whoever it is.
But yeah, you too I feel bad umno, it's fine yeah, and then you
get, you have a job, so yougotta do all that stuff, but

(58:59):
anyways, but yeah, um, what doyou hope to like what's your
future?
And like not career-wise, likedo you hope to have a family and
stuff like that yeah, I wouldlike to have like a family,
maybe by 24, 25 24 years old,dang way ahead of me, so you're

(59:20):
way more mature than I am.
No, I'm like.
You know, ali and I were tryingto have kids and stuff, but I'm
like oh man, am I ready for itlike?

Lily (59:26):
I'm scared.
You know, I was actually askingali the other day.
I was like like I don't,because I feel like a lot of
people ask young couples likeyeah when are you gonna have
kids?
And I know that that would beannoying, because I would be
annoyed with that too, but I waswas just asking, allie, like
not trying, I don't know, maybeI, whatever, anyways.
So I was like are you ever like?

(59:47):
Would you even want them?
That's what I was asking, Notlike would you?
And she was like yeah.
And I was like are you ever,though?
Cause, brett, I know Brett'skind, yeah, I'm scared of being
a dad, definitely.

Brett (59:59):
But like I also know from talking to other people, from
seeing like I think a littlesquish all the time, like I love
her so much.
I love how much she loves you.

Lily (01:00:10):
It's so cute.

Brett (01:00:11):
It's the cutest freaking thing ever.
She's got my heart and it's mankills me.
I mean, all those kids do Ilove them all, but like I don't
know I see that joy and but likeI don't know I see that joy and
like I love talking aboutprogression and like seeing
yourself succeed in things, andI want to see, like a little kid
that Allie and I bring into theworld.
Like I want to teach him how towalk, I want to teach him how

(01:00:32):
to you know read and I want toteach him, like how to ride a
bike, like do all those littlethings that you always like
imagine you're doing as a parent.
I know it's not going to beeasy.
Like I like imagine you'redoing as a parent.
Um, I know it's not going to beeasy.
Like I've also talked to someparents.
I had this one of my um oldbosses on.
Her name's kate and she's abeast when it comes to parenting
.
Like she has a three-year-oldand a and then twins, um and so

(01:00:57):
like.
But like ever since I've knownher, it's been cool watching her
, her become a mom and then likelearn all these different
things from motherhood.
And like I'm like I want thattoo, like I want to be able to
do that and like she'll tell mehow hard it is and how sometimes
she gets like two hours ofsleep and I'm like, yeah, but
that's a sacrifice I'm willingto do, like bringing a kid into

(01:01:18):
the world.
Yeah.
Like having all that kind ofthings and yeah, just definitely
scared of it, though, like byall means, um.
But like that's one thing I'velearned in life.
A lot is fear is only as bad asyou make it Like, of course,
there's things you shouldn't bedoing, like don't jump out of an

(01:01:38):
airplane without a parachute.
That's probably stupid, um.
But I'm talking about like withfear, with things in life, like
that with getting married.
Like I was scared to getmarried.

Lily (01:01:49):
That was the best thing ever.

Brett (01:01:51):
Best decision I've ever made, yeah.

Lily (01:01:54):
You know sorry.
No, you're good, I'm going togo off topic really quick.
Let's go.
I will always remember thefirst time I like met ali, which
was on facetime.
Was it?
Yeah, really yeah.
What was it?

Brett (01:02:06):
like let's hear the story .
Well, it was just embarrass hera little bit no there was
nothing embarrassing, I don'tthink.

Lily (01:02:12):
I was just like oh, I remember when you guys first
started like talking and stuff,yeah, like first started dating,
I think and um, yeah, I started.
I I just remember that facetimewas really fun, like yeah when
I I met, I remember meeting allof my aunts I tell her all the
time.

Brett (01:02:29):
I'm like I know my family loves me, but they love you way
more, like she's the coolestwell, she's the best.

Lily (01:02:36):
Yeah, I do really love ally.

Brett (01:02:37):
She's like that's okay, you can say no, you can say
she's like it's okay, you cansay no you can say she's cooler
than me.
You can say it okay, she's cool, yeah, I know, I know she's way
cooler you guys?
Yeah, she is she's really cool,she's really cool, but you are
too but the thing is like I wasso scared to marry her.
Yeah, because?
Not because like I was scaredof her, like I was afraid of

(01:02:58):
commitment yeah I was mainlyfear of like this this woman is
amazing.
Like I love her so much and Iwant to make sure that she
always feels that way and like Igot to live up to some serious
like people who she had in herlife.
Like the way she talked abouther dad and her family and, um,
the people that she's surroundedherself with.

(01:03:19):
I'm like I need to be that forher, and so I probably built up
the expectations too high in myhead of like what I needed to be
for her.
But, like, when I married herand like we started our life
together, it was just it's beennothing but amazing, um and so
like that's definitely kind ofthe mindset I take with like
having a kid, and I'm sure youfeel some fear with like

(01:03:40):
choosing some big, big decisionsthat are coming up here in a
year or so.
How do you manage that?
What do you do?

Lily (01:03:52):
I don't know.
I try and get after the problemhonestly.
Not the problem but yeah, I wasstressing out about we took our
ACTs in.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, I was stressing out about, like, we took our ACTs in.

Brett (01:04:04):
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, that was stressful.

Lily (01:04:06):
That time's the worst, I got two hours of sleep the night
before.

Brett (01:04:09):
Really.
I'm so serious Did you get yourresults back.

Lily (01:04:12):
Yeah, I got like a 20 for I think overall or something,
that's pretty good.
Yeah, it's not bad.
I guess, yeah, but it wasreally stressful.
I did so bad on my math one.
I don't even remember what Igot.
I think I got like a 15 on it.
That's okay, but it was reallystressful and, yeah, I got like

(01:04:36):
barely any sleep the nightbefore, anyway.
So after the ACTs I was like,holy crap, what the heck am I
going to do with my life?
What am I going to do afterhigh school, like I'm about to
graduate?
And so I started likeresearching all these schools
and stuff and like where theywere, how you know, I had like
three Zoom interviews orwhatever.

Brett (01:04:54):
For school?
Yes, dang.

Lily (01:04:56):
And they were like oh, so when are you planning on coming?
And I was like I'm actuallystill in high school, so
probably like next year.
Yeah.
They're like oh okay.

Brett (01:05:04):
Like we'll put this on the hold list.

Lily (01:05:07):
Yeah, yeah, but I was just , I was just really nervous
about it, so I just instantlygot after it.
Yeah.
You know I didn't waste any time.
And even my best friend I knowshe I was like asking her what
do you want to do for school?
Like do you have a plan?
She's like I don't really know,I don't know if I want to go to
college or whatever.

(01:05:27):
And I was like okay, and so onour last day of school or the
night before, I made like abunch of these, like I made her
a, a test to see what she'd begood at that's cool it was like
a 10 question test and it's likeif you had mostly a you or this
or something like that.
And then, uh, I also justresearched a lot of schools,

(01:05:50):
like in different areas, likecolorado, arizona, utah, like
everywhere yeah and I was justlike here's this.
And then and she, I actuallywas talking to her like a couple
of weeks ago and she said thatshe found out what she wanted to
do because I didn't want toforce her to do anything, but I

(01:06:12):
wanted to help her, you know.

Brett (01:06:13):
I mean, that's what a friend does.
Like a friend is someone whoshows up for someone else and
helps them, like with anything,like is there for them.
It's someone you can rely on,someone who you have fun with
like, and that's.
It goes back to what we weretalking about, about like you
wanting to help other people.
Like that's amazing.
Like I never did anything likethat when I was in high school.

(01:06:34):
I was like, um, yeah, you guysfigure it out.
Like I'm going on my missionand I'll talk to you guys later.
Um, I mean, I was always therefor my friends and stuff, but
like I wasn't trying to figureout, help them figure out what
they want to do with theircareer.
I think that's amazing.
Like you're just a good person.

Lily (01:06:51):
I try to be.
I, yeah, I used to take, or Iused to just be say jokes.
You know, I was telling youthat's in the car, just like,
like I'd be too mean and so I'dbe like wow, that was too far,
like maybe I shouldn't have saidthat yeah because like, oh,
maybe that hurt their feelings,like you know when you go to bed
and you like reflect on yourday or whatever oh yeah or like

(01:07:14):
you reflect on embarrassingsituations or whatever.
Um, that's what I would do andI'd like, wow, like, maybe that
was.
Maybe I should not have saidthat out loud yeah um I've had
those too.

Brett (01:07:26):
Yeah, I've had regrets like that, but, um, I mean, I
think it's that's regret is agood thing.
Um, to some degree, like Ialways think like regret helps
teach you what not to do in thefuture yeah um, so I think it.
It's pretty amazing that youunderstand that at your age.
And I think, with whatever youdo in your life, lily, like

(01:07:49):
you're going to be fine becauseone you care so much about other
people, you're a hard worker,you're smart People like you,
like you're just a good person,like we've been talking about,
and with getting after it, like,specifically, whatever you get
after in life, like you're gonnamake the most of it because you
are passionate about the thingsthat you do and you want to be

(01:08:10):
successful, and like I thinkthat's it's a rare thing
nowadays.
Um, so all I'd say is just likekeep doing it.
Like keep going into that, evenif there's uncertainty.
Like walk into the uncertainty,walk into the fear.
Um, one of my favorite quotes Ithink about a lot is fear is a
mile wide but an inch deep, andso like it looks like this huge,
scary thing that you have towalk into until you step in and

(01:08:33):
you're like, oh, just a puddle,it's a really long puddle.

Lily (01:08:37):
So you know um.
Do you know what like rejectiontherapy is?

Brett (01:08:42):
I think so.
Isn't that like where you go,and Like.

Lily (01:08:46):
I think most of the things that I've seen is like people
going up to strangers and askingthem a question or like, or
just like talking to them, oryeah.
Like I saw this guy who waslike hey, do you guys think that
I could take a picture with thepilot and like the cockpit or
whatever?
Yeah, hey, do you?
guys think that I could take apicture with the pilot in the
cockpit or whatever, yeah, so Isaw a couple videos about that a
while ago and I was like maybeI should start doing that.

(01:09:08):
And so I have been.
And part of it is fear, yeah,because rejection like I don't
want to be rejected, I know,even with asking someone out, I
think rejection therapy willhelp that a lot because it's
like who?
cares what they say, like okay,if they say no, whatever.

(01:09:30):
I mean sometimes like peopleare mean when you ask them out,
or whatever.

Brett (01:09:33):
They might be, but, like at the end of the day, it
doesn't matter.

Lily (01:09:36):
Exactly Like if they're being mean.
That's kind of embarrassing forthem, cause it's like why are
you talking bad about?

Brett (01:09:41):
a stranger.
Yeah, if they're being mean, Ithink that shows you it's like
okay, I actually.
You just answered all myquestions.
I don't want to go out with youExactly Like that just shows
their true self, 100%.

Lily (01:09:52):
But yeah.
So I went to the mall with myfriend like a week or two ago
and I was like like picking outa record for my record player,
and I was like, oh, I don't knowwhich one to pick out, and
there's this guy like rightbehind us and I was like I'm
just going to ask him because myfriend wasn't any help.
So I asked him.
He did not actually help at all.
He was like, oh, I don't knowwhat were the two records.

Brett (01:10:14):
I want to know what you're into.

Lily (01:10:20):
It was Tyler, then Call Me If you Get Lost, or whatever.
Call Me when you Get Lost.

Brett (01:10:23):
That's pretty good.

Lily (01:10:24):
I kind of forgot, but yeah , so I was like which one?
He was like, oh, I've onlylistened to this one.
I was like, okay, that did nothelp.
You suck I was like oh, I waslike, bro, you can help me.
Then I was like whatever, youknow, once you get out of your

(01:10:45):
comfort zone, yeah, rejectiontherapy helps for sure.
Yeah, and then you can.
You won't be scared of a lot, alot of things, you know yeah,
it's not as bad.

Brett (01:10:50):
It's not as bad as you.
You put it up to be in yourmind yeah, exactly um rejection
therapy.
I think I learned that on mymission because like it's so
hard to get people to listenabout jesus christ, like people
on the street, just randompeople, and they know who you
are, so like they'll avoid youwhen you're walking up to them.
Yeah, um, but like it taught me,it's like okay, like it's not

(01:11:10):
for everyone, whatever it's notmy problem yeah, and it's like
obviously you want to see thatperson be happy and like I
believe, like the whole reason Iwent out on my mission was
because I think, like the gospelof Jesus Christ can make people
very happy, but you're going toget rejected, you're going to
be told no.
And now I'm in sales where Iget told no every single day.
But again it's like, okay,that's just part of it, right,

(01:11:35):
and I always tell myself likewhen I get someone to tell me no
, I'm closer to getting oneperson to tell me yes.
It's like I don't know I haveto go through five no's to get
to a yes.
So, yeah, I think rejectionsit's an important thing to
recognize doesn't mean that muchand it can feel very daunting
in the moment, like if you getrejected in a job interview,

(01:11:55):
that'll feel a lot differentthan if you ask someone out on a
date, but like there's going tobe other jobs out there, um,
and so I think it's again justperspective, like trying not to
be in your head all the time andtrying to focus on what you can
control, because ultimatelythat's what it comes down to,
that's the decisions that youmake.
Um, like what we were saying,like you can't control what

(01:12:17):
happens to you in life, but youcontrol how you respond and
that's yeah, that's where themoney's made.
You know, that's what'simportant.

Lily (01:12:24):
So you can't help others.
If you can't or wait, you can'thelp others.
They have to help themselves orsomething.
Yeah, I mean yeah, you knowwhat I'm talking about, though
you can't help others unlessthey want it really.

Brett (01:12:37):
Yeah, Um, like going back to Drew running a marathon, I
would tell him to run all thetime and be like come on, you
got to run, you want to run,like it's so good, it's so
important, and he always tell meno until like he was ready for
it, yeah, and so, um, you can'tcontrol other people, but you
control how you respond to themand like that kind of thing.
So, um, we're talking.

(01:12:57):
Do you know who the Stoics are?
I'll be very impressed if youknow who the Stoic philosophers
are.

Lily (01:13:03):
They sound familiar, but I don't think.

Brett (01:13:05):
There's this one Stoic His name is Socrates.

Lily (01:13:10):
Oh yeah, yes, I do know.

Brett (01:13:12):
Also known as Socrates.
If you've seen Bill and Ted'sExcellent Adventure, have you
seen the movie?
You haven't seen that.
No, I'm sorry, drew, get onthat right now.
That's so sad.
That's like one of the bestmovies, but it's like these guys
who are just, they're likemetalheads, it's like an 80s
movie, so it's so good, but theyjust play music in their garage
and they're flunking school andthey somehow they have a

(01:13:36):
history exam that they have topass and if they don't, they're
going to have to go like one ofthem is going to go to military
school, the other one's going tolike flunk out or something,
and so somehow they get a timemachine that they can go back
and like learn history when it'shappening and they call
Socrates.
They're like oh yeah, socrates,like what's up?

(01:14:01):
Socrates.
So, like my entire life Ithought his name was Socrates
until I heard someone saySocrates and I was like what,
anyways?
But he has this thing.
Socrates has the same where he'slike um, I'm going to get it
wrong and I don't want my phonecause it's over there.
But basically the whole conceptis about how, um, we can't
control our circumstances, butwe can control our like focus.

(01:14:24):
Basically, like you know, nomatter how dark things can get,
we control what our focus is on,and that's easier said than
done, like I'm still working onthat nowadays, but it really is
the truth, like, whatever youfocus on, whatever's important
to you, try and have the bestattitude towards it.
So ready for the last question.

Lily (01:14:45):
I'm ready.

Brett (01:14:46):
What does getting after it mean to you?

Lily (01:14:50):
Um, I think getting after it means, um, you know, just
like going straight straight tothe point, going straight
through the problem or fixingthe problem.
You know, like I was saying, Ijust, yeah, just going straight
through the point, like getthrough it, learn go for it.

(01:15:12):
Yeah, exactly that's what Imeant Go for it.

Brett (01:15:14):
I think that's huge.
There's a lot that you're goingto do in your life, um, but
when, like if you feel uncertainabout whatever path you want to
take or whatever, I would justsay, yeah, exactly that, just go
for it.
Like you're young enough towhere, if you try something and
it doesn't work out, you canmove to something else.
Like I started in marketing inmy career.

(01:15:37):
Didn't really like it, so Iwent to sales and I love it.
But whatever you do, just gofor it.
Make the most of it.
You're going to do great inwhatever it is.
I hope you will.
You will.
I have 100% faith in you and somany other people do too.
But yeah, you're going to doamazing things.

Lily (01:15:59):
Thank you.
Thank you for saying that.

Brett (01:16:02):
Of course, course I mean, I wouldn't say it if I didn't
mean it.
But, lil, you're amazing.
I really appreciate you comingon thanks for inviting.

Lily (01:16:10):
Well, thanks for letting me come on.

Brett (01:16:12):
I invited you on, come on okay no, you did you did thanks
for inviting me but yeah, Ireally appreciate it.
Before we wrap up, anythingelse you want to leave the
listeners with.

Lily (01:16:23):
Just be confident.
Fake it till you make it.
Fake it till you make it.
It sounds corny, but it's sotrue it helped me a lot.
Yeah, and stay true to yourselfand learn from mistakes.
That's it.

Brett (01:16:35):
Amen, I love that.

Lily (01:16:37):
It really is Like cliches are cliches for a reason and I
feel like fake it till you makeit is one yeah so, yeah, just
try and be confident where youcan, and if you gotta fake it,
that's okay yeah, tell a few I'mserious put like sticky notes
of nice things and tell it toyourself every day, because if
you tell your brain something,um, if you tell your brain

(01:16:59):
something every day, it'll startto believe it.
That doesn't make sense.

Brett (01:17:04):
No, it does.
Like there's legitimateneuroscience out there that says
like, um, your brain can'treally distinguish between a
memory, or like your imagination, and so like if you tell
yourself oh yeah, I'm confident,I'm confident.
And then you start to believethat.
Yeah, it's like it really doeswork.
Um.
So yeah, I think it's like itreally does work.
Um.
So yeah, I think that's a, it'sa great thing.

(01:17:24):
Just go all in.
Yep.
Well, you're amazing.
Really appreciate you coming on.
This is fun.
This is like me, um talking tomy younger version of me.
Um, but yeah, I reallyappreciate it.

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