147 - Ally & Brett Rossell - Discipline + Consistency = Confidence

“Getting After It” isn’t just a slogan, it’s how I choose to live.

In this episode, I hand over the mic to someone who knows me better than anyone, my wife, Ally. 

She interviews me about what it really means to get after it, and we dive deep into the journey behind the brand, the podcast, and the mindset.

We talk about everything, from the early days of “Fat Brett” and living without structure, to 4:30 AM lifts, long runs, and the quiet discipline it takes to build a life you’re proud of. I open up about comparison, confidence, marriage, faith, and why I believe Getting After It means more than grinding—it means growing.

This episode is honest, unscripted, and personal. If you’ve ever felt stuck, unsure, or like your goals were out of reach, I hope this conversation reminds you that it’s not about being the best—it’s about getting better every day.

Three Key Takeaways

Discipline is how I built my confidence. It wasn’t a motivational quote or a big moment. It was the daily effort—showing up when I didn’t feel like it—that changed everything.

Getting after it applies to every area of life. Fitness is just one part. I’ve learned that showing up for my wife, my job, and my faith matters just as much.

We’re not meant to do this alone. That’s why I’m building a community—to help people push themselves and support each other in the process. We grow farther, together.

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Getting After It is for those who. want to silence their self-doubt. Refuse to be owned by comfort. Understand their limits are man-made and breakable. We live in a time of constant comparison. Social media drowns us in highlight reels and overnight success stories. But what most people don’t see is the grit behind it all. The reps. The quiet mornings. The sacrifices. The failures.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone back to another episode of getting
after it.
I am Allie Russell.
And I'm Brett Russell and, justas it sounds, we like to get
after it.
That's pretty good, not badthat's how we start siblings in
crime.
My brother and mine podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
But if you like true crime, go check it out.
It's good stories, fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're true crime.
We come out Wednesdays, however, we're on getting after it and
I'm with my husband, so wedecided to kind of switch it up
this week.
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, tell me your idea.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, it's literally was two seconds ago.
I'm like you know it a whirl.
Let me interview you.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, let's see what we can do.
I'm excited.
I have no idea where this isgoing to go.
I don't know what kind ofquestions you're going to ask me
.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Possibilities are endless.
I don't know where this isgoing to go, but I thought it
might be fun for your audienceto hear from the host himself
what Getting, getting after itis, and we'll kind of roll from
there.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
All right, brett.
So you ask everyone in yourpodcast at the very end, what it
means to getting after it forthem.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
So let's kick it off with that.
What about for you, the host?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
What does it mean?
There's a lot behind it, but Ithink, for simplicity purposes,
the thing that I always thinkabout when I'm considering
getting after it in every areaof life is just, it's a
commitment to strive to alwaysbe your best and to always
improve.
Um, because, like, if you thinkabout it, like, there's a lot

(01:40):
of people out there who theycan't run.
So if they say, oh yeah, I'mgetting after it, and the
definition of getting after it'srunning, a lot of people aren't
going to be getting after it.
Right.
They could, you know, might bemedical issues or they just
can't do it, whatever.
So I honestly, I think that'sprobably it.
It's just, it's a commitment toyourself that you will improve

(02:03):
and stay the long haul, becausegetting after it I always say
it's like a lifestyle, it's ajourney, and there's going to be
times when you feel reallymotivated to get after it and
you're feeling really good,you're excited about whatever's
in front of you.
And then there's going to betimes when life hits and you
have to still balance.
You know your passions orwhatever it is.

(02:25):
You have to still balance.
You know your passions orwhatever it is.
You have to still focus ongetting better in whatever area
you committed to, while stillmaintaining your
responsibilities, like if you'regetting after it and that's
your whole thing.
If you want to be the bestfitness person, whatever and
you're a dad, but you put yourpriorities over your children in

(02:45):
order to get after it, I don'tthink you're getting after it.
I think that's a selectivething to get after.
If that makes sense, that isshowing action in one area in
your life but you're neglectingother pieces, and so getting
after it to me means that it'severything that you do.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I see.
So you're saying if you want tobe the best runner and you also
are a dad, you have a job, youhave all this other stuff, but
your whole priority is onbecoming a runner.
Where the other areas areneglected, then that's not
getting after it.
That's progressing in one area,but getting after it to you
means you're striving in everyarea to become the best,

(03:24):
whatever that looks like yeah,yeah, 100, it's like I said it
again dang it 100 I know I'mtrying to work on that.
I don't mind, I just like totease, yeah well, if you notice,
the audience does too.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So I apologize because I say that too much, but
yeah, I mean it's like, are youreally getting after?
And mean it's like, are youreally getting after it, and to
me it's much more impressive.
You take someone like Drew,who's a dad, who has a job, who
also runs and does all thesethings.
He's not going to be the bestrunner in the world.
I'm sorry, drew, you won't be.
I won't be the best runner inthe world Because it's like we

(04:00):
are regular, everyday people whotry and strive to do our best
in those areas.
We are regular, everyday peoplewho try and strive to do our
best in those areas.
And you can't compare someonewho literally, that's their job
is to train and to work out andto like the Olympians.
That's all they do, and theyhave the best protocols, all
this stuff.
So they're obviously going tobe much better, but that's like
their life, that's what theywant to do.

(04:21):
And so you take someone who hasother responsibilities and
still balances, like okay, well,how can I be the best dad?
How can I be the best at work?
How can I be the best spouse?
How can I still work out andachieve my goals in fitness.
That's much more impressive tome than it would be if someone
was just like I'm going to bethe best runner and that's all

(04:41):
they did.
I think it's much moredifficult to be able to strive
to be your best in those areas,to get 1% better each day while
still achieving your goals.
That's hard.
That's a hard thing to do.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Let me ask you this I know you have talked about and
you and I talk about oftencomparing.
Yes.
You've talked about Truetthands a lot.
I do talk about often comparing.
Yes, right, you've talked abouttruett haynes a lot.
You talked about a lot of thosehopefully, because one in one
day we'll hit a run together.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
He'll come on the podcast.
That'd be cool that'd be funI'll tag him in this truett.
Haynes, please let me run withyou I'll run with you, but I
think it'd be cool if you cameon this podcast yes what do you
say?
Nice, we're also in utah I meanwe're like down the street.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
But the reason I talk about him is, I know, like, as
you were just saying, these,some of these athletes, I mean
that's they're able to make ittheir life right.
They're making money frompromoting different companies
and sponsors and stuff and sothey get to work out all day
long.
Yeah, and we see truett's pose,which I'm so happy for him.

(05:49):
Great, truett cam, like lucy,all these incredible athletes.
It's so fun to see theirstories and it's like their
workouts of the day and it waslike an eight hour day of their
rubs, their sauna, their walkwith their dog or whatever it is
.
How do you I don't want to sayI'll rephrase it you were just

(06:15):
talking about you can't compareyourself to people who are like
that's their life.
How do you do that?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I think it's tough.
Well, one.
I do want to say that all thosepeople that you mentioned
they've worked unbelievably hardto get to where they're at.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
And not to say that they're neglecting other areas
of their life, Of course, I meanthey can be incredible spouses
and stuff like that but it doeshelp when their fitness aligns
with their occupation.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, and I think that's really it.
We live in a time where you'reable to do that, think that's
really it is.
We live in a time where you'reable to do that right, like if
you are able to get enoughpeople to follow you, to like
your stuff, to see your journey,then you can legitimately make
money from that, and I feel likethat's a pretty good motivator
to like, keep doing what you'redoing.
So, um one, I think it'samazing that they're able to get

(07:00):
to that point.
Um two, you mentioned camhaynes.
You might not even notice abouthim, so he's like, before an
ultra runner, he's a bow hunter,that's his whole thing, and he
wants to be ready for themountains and so like.
He actually worked a full-timejob for 25 years and I think

(07:20):
like three years ago he finallyquit.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Um do we know what he was doing for work?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
He was part of like water treatment or something.
He worked, I think, for thecity, but yeah, so like.
But he would run and domarathons every day.
I think he would run a halfmarathon before work and then a
half marathon at lunch, likecrazy stuff.
Yeah, he's um, and so the reasonhe's where he's at now is
because all the work that's goneinto that for years on end has

(07:50):
got him to that point.
And so same with truett like heposted something where he ran a
half marathon when he was sixyears old, and I think when I
was six years old, eight rightmaybe he was eight if it was was
six.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm going to cry.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Either way, that's still crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, regardless, that's so young.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Right, and so you said it.
How do you not compare yourselfto those people?
A couple things, okay.
So I would say the first thingactually is you should compare
yourself to them a little bit,and I'm not saying like compare
yourself to their times, compareyourself to anything like that.

(08:26):
You need to compare yourselfand be like, okay, well, they
obviously were able to achievesomething, and I'm a firm
believer that if a human hasdone it before, that means there
is a chance that you can do ittoo.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Be realistic with your goals.
Like if you want to be in theNBA and you're a five foot five
white guy that just decided toplay basketball today not very
valid.
Like you got to be realisticwith your goals but look at them
for inspiration, like if, ifthey true, it's a great example

(08:59):
to me.
Like I'll look at him and see,like, what runs he's doing and
be like, okay, well, I obviouslyknow how much work goes into
saying like, okay, well, I'mgoing to run a hundred mile race
or I'm going to run 250 milerace, and the guy puts in a
hundred mile weeks.
And so, like, if I'm thinkingabout that for myself, I'm like,
okay, well, this week I hit 48miles, so I'd have 62 more to go

(09:20):
.
52 more to go Math is bad, 52more to go Math is bad.
And so like I wouldn't say like, okay, well, don't compare
yourself to them.
If anything, just compareyourself and be like how would I
feel if I got to that point andam I willing to even do the
work?
Because that's, I think, aquestion a lot of people don't
consider is like you'll seesomething really cool on social

(09:42):
media, you'll see someonestarting a business and you'll
say, oh, I want to do that too,until you realize how much work
has to go into it.
And then you're like man,freaking, true, it he's able to
run a hundred miles.
Like that guy sucks.
And then you'll start gettinginto that mode where it's like
you're like, oh I just hate allthese people, or whatever.
You start having a bad mindsetabout them and so, um, but

(10:07):
really to answer your questionthis is a long winded way to
answer it I would just say,simply, understand that you're
on your own journey and that itis unique.
Your journey is unique to youand you get in what you put out
or you get out what you put in.
Um, and I mean, genetics alsoplay a huge role.
But, like, I just don't thinkit's fair to yourself to compare

(10:31):
yourself to other people.
Like, you've heard the phrase.
So many people on this podcasthave said the phrase comparison
is the thief of joy, because Ithink there's a lot of truth
behind that.
If you compare yourself tosomeone else's journey while
you're trying to accomplish yourown, go out after whatever
goals are in your mind, um,you're not going to be able to
enjoy and be present for thetimes when you actually have

(10:54):
some kind of accomplishment thatyou're proud of.
Like if you go out and you wantto run your first half marathon
and you're proud because youjust hit a seven mile run You've
never done that before andyou're getting ready for your
half marathon and you go onsocial media and you see Truett,
you see Drew, you see yourselfanybody like posting.

(11:14):
You're like, hey, I just gotdone with a training run.
It was 15 miles.
Like that person's going tofeel like crap.
But the person who ran sevenmiles should be proud of what
they did because they never doneit before.
Right.
And so I would just say becautious with comparing yourself
on social media.
Understand that your journey isunique and it's not beneficial.
You can draw inspiration fromthose kind of people, but you

(11:37):
shouldn't compare yourself tothem.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
So what you're saying ?
Basically, it's not bad to lookat the numbers and understand
they're different between otherpeople's runs, your own runs,
whatever it may be.
But rather than compare livesand stories, look at those
things in order to learn.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, and I would say be proud of the effort that
you're doing, like if you reallygave it your all, if you're
really showing up and trying todo your best, that's going to
get you a lot further than youknow.
Doing something like reallyhard and then immediately being
like, but I'm not the best, likeyou're not, you're not going to

(12:22):
be the best.
There's a lot of people outthere who are much better than
me at many things that I do Atpodcasting, at running,
fitness-wise, at my job.
There's a lot of people who arebetter than me.
I'm not the best, I'm trying tobe, but it's difficult and it's
a competitive world.
So it's like if I was alwaysthinking about, like man, I'm
not the best, I'm not the best,then it's like that triggers a

(12:42):
negative thought spiral andyou'll start believing it and
that's not a good place to be.
Self-talk is huge in that point.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's true you have talked a lot about self-talk and
not to dive too far into it.
Whatever you're comfortablewith All right.
Let's go into that a little bit, because getting after it kind
of started, when would you say,not the podcast itself, but your
own personal journey?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I would say in college, like that's when I
started really diving into someof the teachings of Jocko
Willink.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
That sounds like scripture.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, but like trying to understand discipline for
myself, and I think that's whenI really understood, like okay,
it really is, you get out whatyou put in like okay, it really
is.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
You get out what you put in what.
How did your lifestyle lookdifferent before learning these
lessons and then since?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
then it was a lot less structured.
Okay, um, I was very like, Ithink, about Spencer on this
podcast where he talked abouthaving a to-do list yep and he's
like if you don't have one,like you're not really gonna
know what to focus your time onthat day.
I feel like that was me a lot ofone.
Like you're not really going toknow what to focus your time on
that day.
I feel like that was me A lotof the times, like I didn't
really understand, like I knewwhat needed to get done but I
didn't have an order of which Iwanted to do it in and I would

(13:53):
procrastinate, I would letthings like I would do things at
the last minute.
And then I just realized likediscipline is a very simple
thing to get started at.
I know that sounds crazy, butlike if you just start doing
small things to exercise yourdiscipline like for me at that
time I was like, okay, well, I'mjust going to come home from

(14:13):
work and in that hour when I'mhome from work is going to be me
studying and getting thingsdone for school, and then just
like structuring my day that way.
And then, pretty quick afterthat, drew and I were like, okay
, let's just go to the gym at 5am every day before we have to
go to work, and then we'll go toschool and we'll do all that
stuff, and it was just like thevery most basic way of like I'm

(14:36):
going to include discipline inmy life, but I need time to do
that if that makes sense.
So it's like, okay, well, ifwe're waking up at 4.30 to go to
the gym, we're there at 5, thenI need to be disciplined to
wake up on time so I can go pickup Drew, so we can get to the
gym on time, get a workout inbefore work.
Like you have to have structuredtime to achieve goals.

(14:58):
I do believe that, like, youneed to be able to time block
and things like that too, butyou also need to have the chance
to exercise discipline.
And so, if that's like I wantto start going to the gym more
than set a time for you, that'sfeasible for you to go to the
gym and then exercise disciplineto get there.
Like that's what it takes, um,but my life was very
unstructured and I had goalsthat I wanted, um, I just didn't

(15:21):
know how to put it all togetherto work towards reaching those
goals.
Like, I think it's somethingeveryone has to learn on their
own because everyone's different, um, but at least giving
yourself a chance to experimentwith discipline, experiment with
consistency, like figure outwhere it fits in your life and
and where it makes sense thatyou can stay consistent, because

(15:45):
that's the most important part,cause, like a lot of times,
you'll see people this isanother danger of comparison
You'll see people on socialmedia who are like this is my
morning routine.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
And because of it I'm super productive yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Or like this is what I eatevery day for my meal prep.
Or I read 50 pages Like and andso like you might think, okay,
well, that person's veryproductive, that person looks
really good, they're obviouslyfit, whatever it is, and you'll
say I need to be doing thosesame exact things.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
But in reality it might not work for you because
that person built a habit thatthey can stick to and so you
have to learn to do the same foryourself so when you talk about
non-structural, structured lifeand then you learn about
discipline, consistency and youbecame more structured if
someone's listening to thispodcast and they're like I want
to be more disciplined, I wantto be more consistent, it sounds

(16:39):
like structure is a tip forthat.
Yeah, how did you startimplementing that in your life?
it started very small um did youhave, like a calendar, a alarm
clock for different things likewhat was your?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
alarm clock um I don't know no, that's good.
So I mean sometimes, like thevery most basic thing I would do
is just write out a to-do listevery day before bed of what I
wanted to do the next day.
Um, and yeah, so it's justpreparation and really just like

(17:14):
understanding that, and thennow I'll plan out my day but
also put things in my calendarso I don't miss them.
Um, it's really like I don'tknow.
I'm very good at forgettingthings, and if it's not written
down or if it's not somewherewhere I see it, I, I will forget
about it.
Um, so, like, if I'm at thedoctor's appointment, you'll be
proud of me for this, becauseI'm very consistent.
Now, um, and they're like okay,well, we'll see you in three

(17:35):
months.
I immediately pull out my phoneand say, okay, well, how's
August 18th?
whatever, let's do it at thisdate and then I'll just put it
in.
So it's's like I'm alwaysreminded, because it's easy to
let things slip, and I reallyjust started by implementing
small things.
Like when I first started goingto the gym, I wasn't there for
an hour and a half or two hours.
I was there for 30 minutessometimes, like just to get a

(17:59):
lift in, and then Drew and Iwere off to work with meal prep.
Like I didn't really know howto cook that well, so I started
with just one meal a day andthen eventually that led to
breakfast, lunch and dinner.
I always had prepped in collegeand a few years after that I've
kind of fallen off because I'velearned how to cook now and
that's kind of fun.
I like cooking for us.
But that's really it.

(18:22):
It's like starting small and Ithink the best place that you
can see that is in the gym.
Like if you go and you've neverlifted before in your life and
you want to start doing somebicep curls, you might only be
able to do the tens, maybe thefives, I don't know.
I don't know what the size ofyour biceps are, but that
consistency, that discipline ofshowing up and lifting and

(18:44):
showing up when you're sore,like all these things will lead
you to eventually be able tocurl 40s like it's nothing.
But that could be years.
You just don't know what thetimeline is.
So that would be.
My advice is like, if you wantto start exercising discipline
in some areas of your life,figure out what areas they are
if it's fitness, if it's faith,if it's family, if it's your job

(19:06):
and then start setting verysmall, specific goals, like the
procrastination podcast that Ihave written out.
Um, there's one thing in therethat I um, I think fuels a lot
of procrastination, and it's alack of clarity or fear of

(19:27):
actually doing the thing.
But I think a lack of clarityis what a lot of people run into
.
So, for example, me up incollege, I obviously knew that I
had deadlines for some tasks oranything like that.
Um, but like, I was neverspecific about what I needed to

(19:48):
do each day.
And so, like you break it downinto smaller chunks and you say,
okay, well, today I'm justgoing to write my thesis
statement for this paper.
I'm like, okay, write that down, write your thesis statement,
and once you figure that out,think, okay, what's the next
thing I need to do in thisproject.
Maybe it's like okay, I have towrite the first two paragraphs
and then the next day you writedown your goals, right, or

(20:08):
finish the two paragraphs, andthat's what you do, but you just
break it down into veryspecific, smaller chunks, so
it's like it's not asoverwhelming as it might be like
okay, well, I'm just going tosit here and write for an hour.
Um another thing I used to dothat I still do today, is the
five minute rule, where it'slike I'm just going to work for

(20:29):
five minutes and if I still feelterrible afterwards and I'll
stop.
But usually when I would dothat I would recognize like I
don't want to start working,like I'm kind of in the flow
state.
Um.
So that's my advice Start small.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Sounds like what you're saying as far as
structure goes.
Sounds like finding thenon-negotiables in your life.
What are the things that youwant to be disciplined in?
What are things that are mostimportant?
Taking the like, the one or twothings in each category,
breaking it down into bolts andpoints of smaller chunks, and
focus on those first.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yes, I love what you said about the non-negotiables
real quick, um, because, likeyou mentioned Cameron Haynes,
and he's someone who'sunbelievably accomplished.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Like it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
He's done so many things, yeah, and great kids too
, sounds like take a guess atwhat his to do list is every day
.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I would assume run that's one of them okay, I don't
know what lift run shoot oh,that's all he does.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
And he says I should have guessed he's like I don't
have to have it at a certaintime, like I don't have to lift
at 5 am and run at 6 am andshoot like at 8 am.
He's like I just have to getthose done every single day and
there's no like I mean,obviously that works for him.
But the point is is he will dothose non-negotiables no matter

(21:53):
what, and you know, life doesget messy.
So I like the fact that he'slike I don't care what time it
is, as long as I do the thingright um, and I feel like I've
gotten better with that, withrunning and fitness, just
because I used to have to go inthe morning.
But now, with traveling andstuff, it's sometimes nice to
have a couple extra minutes inthe morning, or sometimes we're

(22:15):
really tired and it doesn't makesense for us to wake up and go
work out.
So be flexible with thetimelines where you're doing the
things, but don't miss them.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, I think, trying out different things.
I think your personality isvery much like you thrive on a
schedule, right.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Very much so.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
You love knowing what time things are happening and
having it organized that way.
I think I'm more of the CamHaynes approach, where I'm like
I'll get it done.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, you're easy breezy, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
But then also you got to be careful, because if you
have three or fournon-negotiables, and you're
running out of time at the endof the day, and then things come
up during the day too, whichmakes it difficult.
You're like oh, I forgot, I hada birthday party and.
I'm supposed to do this.
So I mean, it seems as thoughgetting things done first thing.

(23:08):
If you're able, sounds likethat's the hack to not miss it,
yeah.
However, I think, with peoplefunctioning differently and
finding their way like maybetrying a more structured if
that's like problematic, thentaking more of the Cam Haines
approach, but it sounds likehaving those non-negotiables
breaking it down to the smallestform and being able to just

(23:28):
work like kind of chip awayrather than like expecting to
move mountains in one day yeah,think of yourself as a scientist
.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Like, experiment with the schedules, experiment with
when you're going to be doingthese things.
Um, find what works for you.
And I did mention earlier like,oh yeah, someone might post
their morning routine and youmight think you have to do that
to be productive.
But if there's something inthere where you're like, okay,
well, this guy wakes up at 6am,they go and they work out before
work, like maybe I'll try thatand if it works for you, great.

(23:59):
But if it doesn't find the timewhere it does make the most
sense for you to go and getafter it or whatever that is,
but experiment with these things, figure out what's the best for
you and you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, I just lost my train of thought.
I was going to say Bring itback.
Bring it back, dang it.
It just left, like immediatelywhen I opened my mouth.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
It disappeared.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
It's faded into the air.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Where'd it go?
Bring it back.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I can't, but it's gone, that's okay.
Um, well, I wanted to say orI've not related to what I was
going to say, I don't know whatthat was, but I was going to ask
you.
You've obviously seen bothsides.
You talk about fat Brett, youtalk about fat bread a lot.
You talked about thisnon-structured side before
college, Like how would you saythat has changed your life,

(24:47):
Becoming more disciplined, beingmore consistent?
What is that doing for you on aday-to-day basis?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's a really good question.
I feel like it does a lot forme.
Yeah, it's a much moredifficult lifestyle.
Yeah To busy seems, I mean yeah, busy maybe, but like I think
it's just.
If you decide to always improveand always try and get better

(25:13):
in it, in whatever area, it islike it's hard, it requires
discipline, it requiresconsistency and little fat Brett
who was the coolest kid.
I wish I knew him was so cool,but like didn't really care what
kind of foods he ate and didn'treally care how he spent his
time.
So like I would, I'd read still, like I always read at

(25:35):
nighttime, but like you'realways a nerd, it's okay, yeah.
I'd play video games like Iwouldn't really care about
school.
I would eat frozen meals all thetime, like frozen meals and I'm
sure like at the time Iliterally I didn't think
anything of it.
I was like this is great, likelife is awesome, yeah, um, it's
a breeze, and so like I feellike I could still be in that
trap.
But the difference is is like Iknow what it's like to get

(25:59):
after it.
I know what it's like to havethe confidence come from doing
hard things and being prepared,and I know what that feeling's
to have the confidence come fromdoing hard things and being
prepared, and I know what thatfeeling's like.
I also know how like my bodyfeels better if I'm eating well,
if I'm working out and if I'mtaking care of it.

(26:19):
Like my mind performs betterand so like.
I don't know that's really.
It is like I've experimentedwith both.
I've had times, even likerecently, where like I won't do
as well as I want in the gym, orlike I'll eat crappy food and
feel sick, or like crappy foods.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
He means he eats too many rice cakes and too many
granola bars.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I haven't seen you eat crappy food all I mean is
like I'll binge on those thingsand I'll feel terrible the next
day and like I'm just likethat's, that's a simple thing
for me to be like, okay, there'sevidence that this is obviously
not good for me and, mind you,I am eating a lot of those
things when the time comes, butI try not to Um, and so, yeah, I

(26:59):
mean, I've had both experiencesand I just the confidence that
comes from pushing yourself andbeing proud of the work that you
do, um, and then with the hopethat you will become a better
person like that's kind of whatI'd rather live on.
So there's some people who don'tcare about getting after it and
I've mentioned before on thispodcast that it's not a

(27:22):
lifestyle for everyone, um, andthose people, you know, they
just want a different life.
But I think this is for peoplewho, if they want to improve, if
they want to get better inwhatever aspect, it is like you
need to start exercising somediscipline and putting structure
to your day, figuring out whatyour non-negotiables are and
being religious about makingsure that they happen.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
So so you've seen the fruits of living this lifestyle
, and they are good they're goodthey are delicious to the taste
.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Huh I mean they are I .
Um best example is you what?
Yeah, because I started thispodcast.
You reached out and now we'remarried okay, keep in mind I've
been reached.
I was reaching out years beforeyou started I know, but you
said something really nice to meand that's really what won you
over.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's what did it.
That's like this girl she likesmy podcast damn well, actually,
oh, yes, I did and yes, I stilldo.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
But it was pretty bad at the beginning, so you're
lying I supported you regardless.
I just want to be a good friend.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
I love being everyone's number one
cheerleader, but that that'swhat I wanted to ask is because
you've seen your confidence growyeah through being more
disciplined, through living thislifestyle.
How would you say yourconfidence was?
If you don't mind me asking fatbrett no, not fat brett, even
like since the beginning of youstarting just being more
disciplined and where you arenow, because that's going to be

(28:47):
a roller coaster.
I know you're saying there'stimes where it's like up and
down, where maybe you're nothitting the workouts you want to
or maybe you're slacking alittle bit on healthy eating,
more religious with mystructured schedule and with my
eating habits and my working outsince then in college and where

(29:08):
you are.
Now that you've talked to allthese people, you've really
dialed in on what getting afterit means to you.
How has your confidence inyourself either evolved or
changed, or has it at all?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
a ton ton.
Yeah, it's been reallyunbelievable, like I've always
been, I think, someone who'sinsecure, like when I was fat
Brett, I'd go swimming and weara shirt, right, that kind of
thing.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
That's what I was wondering, because I mean fat
Brett, it makes sense, kind ofno offense that you're a little
bit more insecure, Like ifyou're not living a healthy
lifestyle.
That usually goes hand in handwith a little bit more of
insecurity, but the wholegetting after it time.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I'm curious if your confidence has grown or if it
kind of stays the same, ifyou've been doing the same stuff
yeah, um, it's definitely grownand I think the reason being is
I've made more of an effort topursue the things I'm interested
in.
Um, because I think about, like, when I was at swallow, I was
so good at marketing, I wasreally good at ads like I could

(30:09):
get your roi up to like 12whatever that means chunk
cookies he crushed it their row,as return on ad spend was like
24, so every dollar they'd spend.
They'd get 24 back.
Anyways, I was really good atads okay good, but I didn't get
any confidence from that becauseit wasn't anything like I
wanted to pursue, um.

(30:29):
And so I think, like you canget good at something and not
get any confidence from it, likeanother thing too, like I was
so good at halo as a kid youshould be proud of that
unbelievable he was ranked yeah,I mean, I don't know what the
ranking specifically was but onemillion.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
But that's a rank.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
No, it was good, um, but like, even then it's like,
okay, well, the only time Iwould ever be confident with
halo is like if I was actuallyplaying the game right, like
going online.
Like that confidence isn'tgoing to bleed into other areas
of my life.
And so I think, yes, everythingI've done with getting after I
have gotten more confident doingthem, easy thing to do is go

(31:09):
back.
Listen to episode one of thispodcast.
I'm not confident.
I'm like hi, this is Brett,you're just a little boy.
Thanks for listening to thepodcast.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
And I'm like I would message that guy yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
This guy is nice, but now it's like, okay, well.
Well, it's just, we're havingconversations like I'm telling
people things that I'minterested in and and the
confidence has come from doingthe reps um, honing in the
message of the podcast, like andbecause it's something I
believe in, and so like I getconfidence from this thing,
because I'm like, hey, listen,this is important to me, like

(31:42):
hopefully it resonates withsomeone, but like I'm confident
that this message is going, likeit aligns with everything that
getting after it's about.
Right.
And so also with running likethat's been a great uh
confidence builder for me.
Is running really like when Iwas sick.
I I tell the story but I have.

(32:04):
I've run like I ran seven milesfor the first time when I was
sick and it was like 11 minutepace and I remember being so
proud at the time of that.
Good, you should.
And like I was like man, thatwas awesome, that was so cool,

(32:27):
god's sake, whatever.
Once I started running more andstarted competing in actual
races and stuff like that, whenI would do the work, prepare for
it and know I did my trainingwell, I was rested, I was fueled
.
When I stepped on the startline I was confident I'm going
to be able to finish this race.
Then when I finish it, I'm likemaybe I can do a marathon after
that half.
Then I I finish it.
I'm like maybe I can do amarathon after that half and
then I finished the marathon.

(32:47):
I'm like maybe an ultra is next.
But I think that confidencecomes from one you're doing hard
things.
We talked about that with teamTim.
That's like a big one.
Confidence comes from doinghard things.
It teaches you a lot aboutyourself and teaches you about
how you respond when thingsdon't go well.
Um, it teaches you that you'recapable of doing more.

(33:08):
And I think that's the biggestone, cause a lot of the times
when we go to team Tim or I tellpeople, hey, you should run,
they'll say I'm not a runner.
Right.
And then you know they'll runthe race and they'll be like I
cannot believe I just did that,Like that is crazy, right, and
like that's the coolest feeling.
That's like, honestly, thereason I love going to Team Tim

(33:30):
now is like just seeing peoplejust being like I can't believe
I did that, like I never thoughtthat was possible, and I feel
like that's just what comes fromdoing hard things is like if
you're able to do your best, ifyou're able to show up and and
some of those people who say Ican't believe I did that, no
shade on them, but they mighthave had the slowest pace of the
whole race, but who cares?

(33:51):
Right, like they still didsomething difficult.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
The distance is the distance.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Right and they push through difficulties, and so I
think that's the benefit ofdoing hard things.
It tells your brain hey, thatwasn't our limit.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Um, and then preparation is the other one too
, like the only reason thosepeople were able to do that
mostly blake's an anomaly mybrother's freaky about that he's
unbelievable he won't run onestep and he'll just show up for
the race and finish it somehowyeah, he's a beast, um, but like
he's an anomaly he's an anomalyhe's always last, but he's

(34:27):
there and it's impressive and welove him for that.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, but, like, the confidence that comes from
preparation is like did you doall you can to get ready for
this moment?
Are you confident that, like,if it's a presentation you're
giving at work, that all theinformation is correct, that you
did your best, and is it likeis the effort you put in going

(34:52):
to get you the result you want?
Um, so I think those two thingsare what build confidence.
At least for me is doingdifficult things, proving to
yourself that you can do more,and then preparing for that
moment right so all the training, all the training, all the
reading, all the studying,whatever it is like.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
That's what's going to bring you that confidence I
feel like preparation isdefinitely the antidote for
anxiety as well.
In a lot of scenarios, what itsounds like you're saying is
since you started getting afterit.
It sounds like you alreadysince the beginning.
Sounds like you're confident inyour ability to live, sounds
like your comfortability, you'reconfident in your ability to do

(35:29):
specific tasks, but it soundslike, over time, your confidence
in who you are has evolved yeahwould you agree?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
yeah, so I mean.
I always say the phrase like ifyou're able to be disciplined
in one area, it bleeds intoevery other area of your life.
I've seen that very much so inmine.
Um, like with fitness that's aneasy example.
Like I've gotten better, yeah,um, my endurance is up with my

(35:59):
job.
Like I've learned how to bemore disciplined there, how to
get things done relationships.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Youhips, you're killing it.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, like marriage, and marriage is an interesting
one because, like you don'tthink about like, oh, it doesn't
need discipline.
Right.
But it kind of does.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, it does, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Like you have to be disciplined enough to have date
night, yeah, whenever you can.
Like you and I we read ourscriptures together.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Like that requires requires discipline, but it's
those small things that keep usstrong I feel like the
consistency part is what hashelped our marriage just be
incredible yeah as well.
It's like the things that youdon't think about, like day to
day, usually, like oh, liketelling them they look good, and
like the little flirty stuff.
It's like, yes, we already knowwe love each other, that's

(36:40):
great.
But doing the small acts everyday, like breaking it down,
those little things you can doevery day to show your spouse
that you love them and I mean,if you think about it just day
by day, those actions aren'tvery big and they don't really
add up to anything.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Like if I came to you and I was like baby looks so
hot I'm like you tell me everyfour seconds.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Thank you, yeah it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And then I don't say that for like another two weeks,
right, and you're like man.
You might question yourself.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I don't know I'm not hot anymore.
I don't know what happens.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
But like it's because it's consistent, that it just
reassures you that I'm obsessedwith you.
And like it's because I'mconsistent with the gym.
Like one gym session is notgoing to change anything.
One good meal is not going tochange anything.
One bad meal is not going tochange anything.
It's the consistency piece rightand so that's what's important
is like yes, these actions we'retalking about, like going to

(37:31):
the gym, telling your spouse youlove them, getting them flowers
occasionally, like going ondate night, taking time to study
something for yourself andrefine your own skills, or like
work on the podcast, like allthese things.
Like, day by day, these actionsaren't going to add up to a lot
, but you look, it's like thatguy manipulate time yeah like

(37:53):
you, add that up over a coupleweeks, I'm gonna kick your butt
right, it's true, though but itreally is.
It's like you know, that's whypeople like cam Haines and
Truett Haines this is myhypothesis are so good is
because they're justunbelievably consistent, because
they do it day to day.
So it's like consistency ishuge and discipline is needed,

(38:14):
but consistency is equally asimportant, like it's an equation
.
Think about it as mathDiscipline plus consistency
equals achievement.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I like it.
This might be an obviousquestion, but obviously you
learned how to get after it foryourself.
You're like.
These tools are helping mebecome a better version of
myself.
I'm feeling better, feelingstronger, feeling happier Seems
obvious, but you want to makethis a podcast.
You want to talk to peopleabout what they can do to feel

(38:43):
the same way you feel in termsof growth.
Why did you want to make topeople about what they can?
do to feel the same way you feelin terms of growth.
Why did you want to make thisinto a community?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
that's a good question and I have the answer.
Thank, heavens so I mean like Iyou said it like I've seen all
the benefit that have, thebenefits that have come into my
life from getting after it, frompushing myself, and my life has
gotten much better.
It's been hard.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Right Things come up.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Things come up, and it's not an easy lifestyle is
what I mean by that.
It requires early mornings, itrequires a sore body, it
requires fatigue, but the fruitsof it are so much better than
the alternative that it's likeit's been so worth it to me and
so many opportunities have comefrom this, so many like.

(39:34):
I've met so many new people.
Like and you said it like I'mjust a happier, better person.
I would say, and I canconfidently say that, actually,
from when I started this thingto where it is now, and I just
have this idea in my head thatif we had a community of people
who were there to improvethemselves but also support

(39:56):
other people who are trying todo the same thing, I can't
imagine what like this mightsound crazy, but like what kind
of an impact that would have onthe world.
It's like if there's a bunch ofother people who are getting
after it, who are testingthemselves, but then also trying
to push others to do the same,like I'm just one small voice,
but if you had a thousand otherpeople who were very similar to

(40:18):
me and and the things that theydo with like getting after it
and themselves, but also tellingother people that and helping
them realize that they have morepotential to do than they have,
more potential to give to theworld than they thought.
That would mean a lot to me,everyone realizing, okay, yeah,

(40:38):
maybe some things that Brettsays I can try and if it works,
cool, my life might be a littlebit better.
And I always say, like, if I'mable to help one person, then
that's kind of what the goal is.
Um, just because, like, allthese principles, all these
teachings and and everything hasbenefited my life.

(41:00):
Um, so I can't imagine, like,what it would do for so many
others.
And I feel like there's a lotof people out there who are,
they feel lost, they feel likethey're not achieving anything,
they don't have specific orrealistic goals and they need
confidence.
And that's going to come fromdeciding to be disciplined and

(41:21):
and having to do difficultthings, and so really that's
kind of my dream and the visionfor getting after.
It is like to build a communityof people who are all there to
support one another and tosupport themselves and improve
how do you think a communitywill help those people?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
it's like, how have you noticed that heavy?
Do you have a support system?
Like, what is?
What about?
Community is gonna be the thingthat helps people get after it
yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Um, there was this quote from uh simon s.
He was on Chris Williamson'spodcast and he said I think his
definition of community was agroup of people who are
committed to supporting eachother.
And I mean, the reason I wanteda community and I want to build

(42:21):
it is because I had so manyquestions as I was on my own
journey of like, okay, well,this isn't working for me, I
need something else.
Um, or like there wasn't a lotof people who I could reach out
to and be like man, this sucks.
Like I had my coach and I hadyou and that was about it.
Like, man, I'm struggling inthe gym, like I don't know what

(42:43):
to do.
Um, I'm feeling pretty weak.
Like all these things come up,there's a lot of questions to be
answered and, because of thefact that everyone has something
unique to offer, there might beone person who says something
in this community wherever it islike trying to build a platform
for it or whatever where theysay something that might
resonate with that personspecifically that I might not

(43:06):
have been able to help them with, and so that's really.
It is.
I think, like you get more andmore people in this ecosystem
where they're able to cheerother people on.
Like be there.
Everyone in this community isgoing to be everyone's
cheerleader.
Like that's the rule is ifyou're joining this thing,
you're going to help otherpeople to achieve their goals,
because that's what it's allabout.

(43:27):
Right.
And so I think that's really it.
It's like it'll help answer alot of questions.
It'll help people feel moreconfident, but, all in all, I
think it's like you take a lotof pride in being part of a
group that, like, is willing topush themselves and get better,

(43:47):
and I feel like if you're partof that group, it might be more
motivation for yourself to belike hey, I'm in this, I got to
do work.
Um, like I, I got to get afterit.
I'm part of the getting aftercommunity.
You got to do it, like committo change your life Right.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
So it sounds very self-help, like self-help, like
I mean, you're improving realquick.
You keep touching this thing.
It might make the sound reallyyeah, you touching that and this
stuff and I think it might bemaking sounds.
Just a heads up okay okay, umyou know me with my sign I don't
think I'm gonna edit it out youhad to edit it out.
I made the sign.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
That's a stop sign I guess this is your podcast, this
is my podcast today.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I can say what I want .
Um, I like what you said aboutlearning from each other,
because that's one thing thatI've noticed a lot is when you
start running, for example, youkind of just go outside and like
go for a mile.
Okay, that was kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
You just like walk outside and go.
Everyone knows how to run.
Yeah, but not really.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Oh my gosh, someone teach me how to run.
I feel like my form has been sooff lately, but, exactly Like
you think it's just movingforward, which it is to an
extent.
However, then you talk to otherpeople who are big time runners
.
You talk to physical therapists, talk to doctors, you talk to
like anyone with any type ofother experience.
You're like oh, I'm supposed tobe stretching before and after.

(45:11):
Oh, it's better to do dynamicstretching before and static
stretching after.
Oh, I need to do hip mobility.
I need to.
I need a foam roll, like allthese things, that if you aren't
involved in that community, ifyou're not around other people
who have more experience thanyou, you may be getting injured
faster.
You may hate running becauseyou're like I can't do it
because it hurts every time.
Well, it's like it hurts foreverybody, but why does it hurt

(45:33):
for you?
Because there's five things thatyou're not doing, that all the
other runners are doing, thataren't hurting, and so being
able to learn from other peoplein a humble way because there's
it's such a human, like a humblething, joining groups or being
part of different friendshipsand communities, or whatever you
want to call it, and being likethe dumbest one there, like

(45:54):
there's so many benefits fromthat.
I think it's like a, it's kindof like a shy thing where you're
like I don't want to be thedumbest person in the room,
because then you look like thedumbest person in the room,
right.
However, it's actually the bestthing ever, because you're in a
position where you can learnfrom everyone around you yeah
and it sounds like being in thegetting after a community,
learning from other people, andyou yourself will have

(46:16):
experience like, oh, like I'venoticed that I like to take cold
showers after and it reallyhelps me.
Whatever, like, maybe you'redoing something completely
random that is going to helpsomebody else.
He's like oh, maybe that's afactor for me.
I think that's what's been coolabout social media.
Like we give social media a tonof hate Rightfully so in a lot

(46:36):
of ways, However, that's theonly part I like really.
Yeah, I'll say.
However, it has a lot ofbenefits, like one, and probably
the biggest being you'relearning from literally everyone
in the entire world.
There's people in Africathey're like they have a hack to
being great runners orsomething and then you in small
town, gilbert Arizona, arelearning from this random person

(46:58):
.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, no, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
And being able to create acommunity where people can go
and know that they're in a safeplace, where they can ask all
the seemingly dumb questions orthey can be inspired by other
people I think that has been oneof my favorite things is I'm
not a very fast runner, I'm youraverage Joe, but I love being
married to you because I don'tfeel any jealousy, I don't feel
competitive.
You're a boy, you're six footthree, I'm five five.

(47:28):
I'm not expecting me to keep upwith you, but it is inspiring
for me to be able to see you andget up at five in the morning
and you're hitting the trailsand I'm like, oh dang, I should
be doing that too, and not outof a place of like self-hate,
but I have a place of dang.
I love this person and they'redoing all these incredible

(47:50):
things and I see what they'redoing to become incredible.
I can follow those footsteps, Ican do that thing, I can get up
, I can go run.
He's getting the salad, I'mgetting the hamburger.
Maybe I should get the soundnext time, like I can see and
witness it, and not come out ofa place of spite, but of like
you're paving this path for me.

(48:11):
That is so clear.
And I think you're doing thesame thing with your followers.
We're like I have gone throughthe hard work, I have done all.
I've done trial and error timeand time again to see what works
for me.
I'm paving this path.
If you want to follow it, letme show you what I'm doing.
And maybe they go off on adifferent trail and be like hey,
this is working for me andmaybe some people follow that

(48:31):
trail, like that's what'sworking for me.
It's very inspiring to see whatyou've been doing with like
obviously I talk to you day inand day out about this stuff.
Like I'm able to be in asituation where this is our
dinner time conversations.
We could be eating our mealright now.
This is what our dinner tablesounds like.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
That's pretty accurate actually.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's nice to be able to be so involved and to learn
from you.
I hope a little bit you learnfrom me as well.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Very much.
I learn way more from you thanyou learn from me.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
What I mean is it has been very incredible to see how
much you care about otherpeople's success.
Yeah, and I think that's whatincredible people do Not to toot
your horn, but I'm going totoot it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Well, I'm not perfect .

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I'm not saying you are, I'm not the best.
Trust me, you have a lot offlaws.
I'm just kidding.
I do.
No, but what I mean by that islike when we talked about
comparison in the beginning.
Comparison, I think, comes froma lack of confidence.
Honestly, you always say no oneabove you is going to be
tearing you down.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Because they understand what it takes to get
to the top and people who aredoing well, who are thriving.
They want to help other peoplereach to these high peaks as
well.
And so if you find yourselfcomparing, or if you follow the
Getting After it podcast thepodcast or the Instagram or the
community, whatever if you findyourself feeling jealous or like

(50:01):
you're comparing a lot, itseems like that's when you need
to make that change, Like, no,I'm going to try and learn, I'm
not going to bring them down,I'm going to do all I can
because this can help me as well.
And it seems like that's kindof like the group that you're
creating a place of support andand uh, tips and just growth in
general and friends and friends.

(50:22):
Yes, the support.
And let me ask you this why isthat so important to stay in age
?
Why do we need that?

Speaker 2 (50:31):
because I don't think you get it a lot.
I think when you're on socialmedia, it's very superficial
interactions that you're having,like not a lot of them are deep
and the idea behind gettingafter it is like this would be
honestly the dream.
There's some people in thecommunity who are like hey, I'm
going to go run on Saturday andanyone's welcome to join, and
then five people show up and runwith this guy or gal.

(50:53):
It doesn't matter, but it'shard to have actual connection
with people and part of gettingafter it down the line, I want
to do events and do running andthat kind of thing and have
people come and meet otherpeople who are very similar to
them.
After talking to Dr Kim Buck,she was saying that connection

(51:27):
is one of the most crucialthings that we need as humans.
Covid, social media, all thosethings kind of messed up our
human connection.
Now it's hard to get that.
Then there's people out therewho were like me before we got
married, who are just alone.
I lived by myself.
I'd go to work.
I met people there there like Iwould talk to them, but then I
would just go home and like Ihad nothing really to to do and

(51:52):
that wasn't easy and it's not aneasy situation to be alone in,
and I feel like when you'restarting a journey, whether it's
a fitness one or a professional, or like a personal progress
one that you want to focus on,um, there's going to be times
when you feel alone because,like you said, there's also
going to be people who mighthave their own opinions on what
you're doing and might saythat's stupid, like you're

(52:14):
running, that's dumb.
Um, really, those people arejust losers.
Those people are just losers.
They they want an excuse, theywant to have other people um not
succeed.
And they're just losers likecrabs in a bucket.
Like get out of there, jump outof that bucket.
Like if someone tears you down,you can immediately say you're

(52:37):
probably a loser I stand by that, um, but that's really why it's
like building a community.
I feel like a lot of people feelalone on journeys like this.
They don't feel supported, theydon't feel like they can keep
going on days when they theirminds are telling them, hey, I
don't want to do this anymore,and they're tired.
They might listen to thatfeeling, but if they jumped on

(53:01):
this community and they're like,hey guys, I'm feeling exhausted
, I'm tired, I haven't seen anyprogress, I guarantee you
everyone would be like, hey,that's what happens.
You got this, don't stop.
Like, stay consistent, like youkeep going, and that's, I think
, what's important.
And I feel like that's verymissed in the world.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I feel like that's very missed in the world With
your desire to make a community.
Does any of those feelings ofthe loneliness and the lack of
support kind of resonate withyou?
Were you like that prior?
Is that, any or any of thosefeelings, a reason why you
wanted to start this?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, those feelings a reason why you wanted to start
this.
Yeah, I mean the podcast, thewhole idea of this came from
listening to like jocko and joerogan and all these random
people when I couldn't, when Iwas sick and I couldn't watch
anything or read anythingprobably your most lonely time,
I guess it felt very lonely.
I literally thought I was dying.
That's so sad.
Um so, yeah, definitely thattime.
And then, like I said, like Ihad a lot of questions when I

(54:04):
started my own journey.
I didn't know what I was doing,I didn't know really how to run
Like that is something youactually have to learn how to do
.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Didn't know anything about feeling.
Didn't know anything.
That should be natural.
That drives me nuts.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I mean I think it is, but we sit a lot and then that
becomes our more natural state.
Oh, I think it is, but we sit alot and then that becomes our
more natural state.
Oh, I hate that.
Yeah, it's weird, but yeah, Imean, I just think I have felt
that too many times in my life,that lonely feeling of like I
don't know who to turn to, or Idon't know if I'm doing this
right, or I feel alone in thisjourney, I have no support,

(54:40):
because that's a sad reality ofa lot of people is they don't
have a support system.
And so if we can make that forthem, if we could be that
support for them and help themreach their goals and build
their confidence and and havethem look in the mirror and be
like I'm a different person thanI was a year or two years ago,
like that is the goal, that iswhat I hope it becomes.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Oh that you kind of touched on it for a minute.
You talked about a little bitof the future, of getting after
it, like events, stuff like that.
What do you kind of seehappening with getting after?
What are these events you'retalking about and what do you
hope to achieve with yourinitiative?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
you've been pushing I mean the future of it.
The podcast will be more indepth.
I'll have on guests Like that's.
That's something I I'm verypassionate about is I want to
have guests on becauseeveryone's story is different
and, like we were talking about,someone might say something

(55:37):
that I couldn't have said.
That resonates with the personlistening.
So I want to have more peopleon.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
So if you want to come on the podcast, if you have
your own story, Please let meknow.
Let them know If you knowsomebody that has a very crazy,
interesting life story,something that we can learn from
.
Let Brett know.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Always.
Everyone has a story.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Everyone has a story.
You're gettingafteritco onInstagram.
Gettingafteritco co and TikTok.
Everyone has to write You'regetting after it.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Co on Instagram getting after it Dot co, dot co
and tick tock, and, and thenBrett.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Russell getting after it.
Dot com, you can email me.
Oh yeah, keep getting after itDot com.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
But yeah, I mean I.
I envision races that we do, Ican.
I want to start off with a 10 Kgoing to the half marathon.
If I can do a getting after amarathon, that would be a dream
come true, um.
Or an ultra race, like littlepop-up things, like it doesn't
have to be anything crazy.
But I mean I want to doofficial ones, yes, but I also

(56:30):
mean like other pop-up things.
It doesn't matter, like have apop-up tent, um, but I want to
have races be a part of it,because there is a like.
Every time I go to team Tim,it's like I'm friends with all
those people.
They don't want other people toexperience that and run with
their friends.
Um, I mean, obviously, shirts,they're coming out merch, that'd
be cool, um.

(56:50):
But really my whole thing islike I know what these
principles have taught me, Iknow what they've done for me in
my life and I know they canhave the same effect on other
people if applied.
So how can I get that messageto them?
How can I help them realizethat they are made for more and

(57:11):
build that confidence inthemselves so they can go after
and do the things that they wantto accomplish that.
They've always been eitherscared to do or just haven't
known how to, so that's reallywhat I want Getting After to
Become.
It's just a place where peopleare inspired to go and do the
things that they didn't thinkthey could before.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Well, it's already inspired me a lot.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
So I can be your one person, at least for now that
you know.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I will take that You're my wife.
You're the most importantperson to me.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Well, thank you you.
I think it has changed my lifeI think it's changed our
relationship in a positive way.
We hit two years on tuesday.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Let's go quick, two years it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
I know I wanted to ask.
Over these last two years we'velearned a lot we have we have.
You talked about getting afterin personal relationships as
well.
Yes, how does this gettingafter initiative everything you
wanted it to become?
You talked a lot about it in afitness way.
How does that bring into yourrelationships more?
And the reason I asked that,and we can kind of end it around

(58:17):
this, but you talked about theimportance of connection yeah
and community and we talked alot about fitness.
What would you say that gettingafter has done for our marriage
in the last two years?
Now that we're hitting ouranniversary.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I mean, it's brought us way closer together.
I would say, and reason being islike we're trying to work
towards similar goals together,we're supporting one another and
everything that we do, um, butI think one thing specifically
for marriage that getting afterit does is it forces you to
think of the other person beforeyourself, and I believe we're

(58:54):
pretty good at that.
Like I don't know, we're alwaysasking the other person like
what we can do to make theirlife easier, and so like we're
always thinking about each other.
We're always know.
We're always asking the otherperson like what we can do to
make their life easier, and solike we're always thinking about
each other.
We're always making sure we'relike seeing how they're doing
throughout the day.
Like it's just the littlethings that add up.
But I would say just the mostimportant thing, that getting
after it is done is just liketaught us how to be consistent

(59:16):
in our marriage and our routineand always make time for one
another our marriage and ourroutine and always make time for
one another, because if youstart losing that, then you
start forgetting the person whoyou married or dated.
And it's like you always haveto be dating.
I think that's an importantrule.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
You always say that yeah, we're still dating.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, we are.
Sometimes you just say like ohyeah, it's like we're dating
again.
I'm like we are, we are datingall the time I'm like we are.
We are dating all the time.
I'm sorry.
Sometimes you tell me thingsthat I never knew about you.
That's true, but that's what Iwould say.
It teaches you how to beconsistent, and it also teaches
you how to be selfless, because,as funny as this might sound,

(59:55):
this is going to be a weirdanalogy, but if you're out on
the trails and you're running upthe mountain and you're super
tired and you're exerting abunch of energy.
that's hard.
And then if your wife is like,hey, can you go get me some
water, that's pretty freakingeasy, go get the water.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
That's so funny.
So go do difficult things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
So when your wife asks you for small things, it's
easy.
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
That's the rule.
That's a life hack right there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
That's you.
For small things, it's easy,that's so funny, that's the rule
.
That's a life hack right there.
That's it.
Go, do hard things pushyourself.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Make sure you make yourself want to throw up, and
then anything your wife sayswill be easy you just solved all
marriage issues.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
You heard it here first no, the reason I ask is
because we talked a lot aboutjust getting after.
Obviously, the whole podcast isgetting after it.
The reason I want to talk aboutthis is because obviously
you're the getting after hostpodcast and I thought it'd be
fun to kind of interview youthis time to be able to see more
into your mind of what you hopethis to be, what, why it is

(01:00:54):
what it is, and I've seen it.
You've been incredible, beingable to do it in your physical
and your emotional relationshipsand all these different
categories.
And I'm able to do it in yourphysical and your emotional
relationships and all thesedifferent categories and I'm
able to be a witness to thebenefits of living with someone
who gets after it and being onewho strives to get after it.
And so it's fun for me to kindof hear your perspective on what

(01:01:17):
all this is for you and I'mexcited for where this is all
going.
I think we have some big thingscoming up.
Like you said, hopefully wehave merch coming.
I say we.
It's a brett thing, but I'minvolved somehow you're 50 owner
and it's so fun for me yeah but, um, with the future events
being more running, uh, focus.

(01:01:37):
That's why I wanted to kind ofend with it's still a
relationship thing, it's still acommunity piece.
There's so many differentaspects to it which makes it
seem complicated, but when youboil it down to one sentence,
what is getting after it?
Boiled down to one sentence?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Did you just?

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
I'm giving you a gesture.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, you just did the hand thing, give me that
little.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Give it to me All right, boiled down, what would
it be?
I gesture yeah, you just didthe hand thing give me that
little, give me it to me allright, well down, what would it
be?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I think it's what I said earlier it's a community of
people who are committed togrow and help others do the same
.
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I want to hear a sweet concise condensed there
you go and that's what gettingafter is.
But thanks for having me askyou questions this has been fun
it's fun for me to hear fromyour perspective, I mean
hopefully it wasn't too scaryscary my mind is a storm no, and
I think it's fun to be able tokind of dive into that a little

(01:02:30):
bit.
My mind is almost a little toosimple.
I'm like like nothing's reallygoing on in it, and so it's fun
for me to be able to understandyou more thoroughly, to be able
to understand what I can bedoing, like living a more
structured life, like chippingaway at the little things, to
grow in my discipline andconsistency, to not compare, to

(01:02:51):
ask for help, to gain acommunity.
It's fun having thisconversation so that my
takeaways are to be able to dothe little things in order to
become a better version ofmyself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Yeah, and realize it's very personal to you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Very personal.
Exactly, we're on our own paths.
We can carve our own paths.
We can follow somebody else'suntil we find our own way.
Yeah.
But I think I've learned a lot.
I think I learned a lot everytime I talked to you, and that's
why I wanted everyone else tobe able to hear a little bit
more of your voice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I appreciate it.
I appreciate you interviewingme.
I wouldn't want anyone else to,unless it was Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Why you have lots of great things to say.
More people should interviewyou.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I don't know, I just feel like it's fun with my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
That's true, it is fun and, like I said, it's our
anniversary.
So I was like, oh, we can do ittogether.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, that's good.
That's true, that's so lame.
We'll do this as an anniversaryepisode.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
An anniversary takeover.
Did it come out on a Tuesday?

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
No, it'll come out tomorrow, okay, well, anyways,
well, I love you.
Thanks for doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Thanks for chatting with me and, as always, keep
getting after it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Nice work, baby.