October 3, 2025 • 39 mins
I just got back from a cruise with my wife Ally, my family, and some friends. In this episode, I talk about what it felt like to rest, unplug, and try to shift out of “grind mode.” I share how tough it was to stay consistent with training and nutrition, and what it taught me about discipline when you're out of routine.
But more than anything, this trip reminded me why I started the podcast in the first place.
This episode is about the difference between “Get After It” and Getting After It. One is a start. The other is a way of life. If you’re in the middle of your journey—or feel like you’re starting over again—this one’s for you.
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Getting After It is for those who. want to silence their self-doubt. Refuse to be owned by comfort. Understand their limits are man-made and breakable. We live in a time of constant comparison. Social media drowns us in highlight reels and overnight success stories. But what most people don’t see is the grit behind it all. The reps. The quiet mornings. The sacrifices. The failures.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
What an exciting time.
What an exciting time.
I'm back.
We are so back, guys.
I missed you all.
I missed doing this.
And I am glad that I'm finallyable to sit back down and record
another episode of GettingAfter.
It's about freaking time, guys.
So, welcome back to the show, myfriends.
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I am very happy to be here.
And um, yeah, I'm back in moreways than one.
Where was I?
Well, I um actually let me startwith a little story.
Last Christmas, 2024, my parentssurprised all our um my you
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know, the brothers and thebrothers in the family and their
wives with a cruise to whereverwe wanted in um the next year.
So 2025, we didn't know where wewere going, but my parents were
like, hey, well, let's all growgo on a cruise.
And I don't know, it was one ofthose things that like never
felt like it would come, youknow.
Um, I don't know if you've everhad anything like that, but like
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we were all excited when weopened up the gifts, and I was
like, oh man, this is gonna beso cool.
And kind of put it on the backburner, and then all of a
sudden, boom, cruise time showsup.
So it was a lot of fun.
Um, and I'm glad I was able togo.
But this episode I want to dosomething a little bit different
because I want to explain whathappened on the cruise, the
things that I was able to do uha little bit, and talk about how
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I was able to get after it stilluh to the best of my ability.
It was harder than it normallyis, uh, and I'll get into that.
But the other part of what Iwant to talk about today is some
lessons that I learned and arealization I had while I was on
the cruise about getting afterit.
And let's just start at thebeginning because I think that's
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a a fair place to go.
So we uh ended up going to FortLauderdale, excuse me, which is
where our cruise is gonnadepart, and we were gonna go to
the Caribbean.
So the schedule was we had twodays at sea.
We went to St.
Kitts, St.
Lucia, Antigua, St.
Thomas, and finally theDominican Republic was our last
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stop, and then another day atsea to get back.
So a lot of time on a boat, andI've been on one cruise before.
I was not the most fun to bearound.
I think it's because I was verystressed, and unfortunately for
Allie, uh, it was our honeymoon.
So I still apologize for that,Al.
Sorry, I was uh butthead on thattrip.
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But cruises, I was like, okay,these are not my thing because
it goes against kind ofeverything I talk about.
Like you go on these things, youindulge, you relax so much.
Um, you kind of take time awayfrom your routine.
And I'm not someone who likes todo that.
I am very strict in my routine.
Like, I want to make sure I'malways able to do the things
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that I won't want to.
Um, and that includes gettingafter it.
Like, that's very important tome to be able to find ways I can
continuously get after it.
And on a cruise, that's hard todo because you're surrounded by
temptation.
Like all these, you go up to thebuffet, and it's like, okay, you
can get an ice cream cone, youcan get some pizza, you can go
make a nacho plate, see like allthese different cheeses that
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they have.
Um, they'd be whipping up likeall these nice meats that you
can just go and be like, hey,give me a slab of whatever that
is.
But um it was hard for me at thebeginning to let go, like just
to get into vacation mode.
But what really surprised me islike once I did, once I was
like, okay, you know, there's noescaping this.
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I am going to be on this boat, Imight as well make the most of
it.
Time to get present, which issomething I always try and go
back to.
Like, if I'm ever in a situationwhere I'm upset or angry or um
anxious about something, like ona cruise, I always felt anxious.
Uh I I mean I did fight thesefeelings a lot on the cruise,
but like I'd feel anxious thatthere was something I was
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supposed to be doing that Iwasn't.
And you just like I had to letit go.
I had to realize that as thiswas my reality for the next nine
days, and I know I'm complainingabout a cruise, but um it's very
it's made to relax, and I'm notsomeone who does very well with
that.
So it was um hard at first, butI started getting the hang of
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things, and my goal for the weekwas just to see how much I could
run.
Um, you know, I have an ultramarathon coming up in two and a
half weeks.
It's coming up, oh, it's comingup, guys.
And uh I still wanted to makesure I could run.
And so I I found myself in thegym uh almost every day trying
to run on a boat.
It's difficult because as theboat rocks, it's kind of like
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you're going uphill sometimes,and other times it's like you're
free-falling, and you're like,what is happening?
Um, on top of that, it's rockingside to side, so you have to
like stabilize yourself, andit's uh it's an ordeal on its
own.
Plus, this uh because we were inthe Caribbean, it was
unbelievably sweaty and humidand hot.
So I was battling that as well.
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But you know, I just did what Ican.
And same thing with the buffet,like eating on a cruise.
You know, you hear stories wherepeople go on a cruise, they gain
five pounds, other people gainten.
Um the real big hitters are outthere gaining 20 pounds on a
cruise.
Shout out to them.
Um, but I didn't want to dothat.
Like, I don't want to lose, or Idon't want to gain a bunch of
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weight because then I would knowI'd have to lose it.
Because with an ultra marathon,like I'd like to stay leaner uh
on the leaner side if I can,because the less weight that you
have, the easier it is on yourbody.
Uh just been my own experience.
And so I'm trying to stay like Iwas trying to stay relatively
lean on this cruise, but you goup there, and like I said, like
there's all these desserts, andthere's so much to indulge in
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and so much to try.
Like you want to get yourmoney's worth, right?
So you gotta go over and justtry every little bit of
everything and get that Frenchfry there and a chicken nugget
there.
Delicious, so good.
Hot dogs, oh man.
And that's the thing, it's likeI realized you know, it's it's
okay to not be perfect all thetime.
Um and I I feel like that's atrap that I often put myself in,
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and I'm sure many other peopledo too, but perfection is it can
be a goal killer sometimesbecause if you're not staying
100% perfect with whateveryou're doing, you might get
discouraged.
You might say, oh man, well,maybe I'm not cut out for this
if I'm not able to um stayconsistent or whatever the story
is that you're telling yourself.
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But I think it's important to beable to just know that it's okay
to be not perfect all the time.
Human beings are flawed, our nwe are flawed by nature.
Like we always make mistakes.
There's not one human besidesJesus Christ that hasn't made a
mistake.
And that's well, I guess let mebacktrack.
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Jesus Christ was um half god, sohe was the son of God.
So I guess he technically wasn'ta human.
Um He's a demigod, maybe onEarth.
I'm gonna get that wrong.
I might get some some commentson that, but um, anyways, I
wasn't perfect, and nothinghappened.
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You know, I was expecting, ohman, I'm gonna wake up the next
day and I'll be five poundsheavier.
Nothing happened.
Um obviously I wasn't going outof control, but every night, I
don't know if you've been on acruise, but at nighttime you go
to the dining room and you havethe same servers you do every
single night, so you like areable to meet them and they're
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awesome.
Like we met this guy namedNicola, he was from Serbia.
That dude is the man.
Um, he's now back home with hisson, which is awesome.
But Nicola, if you're listeningto this, which I don't know how
you would, but you're the man.
Thanks for the service.
You're your good friend.
Um, but anyway, so you go to thedining room, they'll bring you
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appetizers first.
You can order whatever you want,as much as you want.
It's kind of ridiculous.
Then you order your entree.
Once you're done with that, theycome over with another menu, and
you're like, okay, this is whatI'll have for dessert.
Um, and I got one every night.
Did I eat the whole thing everynight?
No.
But did I take bites for sure?
Um, and then after the dinner,we'd go up to the buffet to play
cards, and we'd get pizza andmelon and all this crazy stuff.
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I never do things like that.
And so honestly, it was kind offun for me to do those things.
I wouldn't do it all the timebecause I felt kind of gross
each day, but it was kind offun.
And surprisingly enough, Isomehow lost 15 pounds on the
cruise, so I think I wascruising wrong, but um, or it's
just water weight, which is morelikely because I drink about a
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gallon and a half a day to twogallons.
So, anyways, I'm talking a lotabout the experience on the
cruise and and some of thethings that like I try to do
with getting after it.
Um, I spent a lot of timereading, which is super nice.
Like, that's something I Ihaven't been able to do a lot,
and finished Project Hail Mary.
If you haven't read that book,or if you're into sci-fi, I
would highly suggest it.
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It's a fun book to read, greatstory.
Um, same guy that did theMartian.
So if you like that book ormovie, you will probably like
Project Hail Mary.
Anyways, so had a great time onthe cruise.
I was able to make so manymemories with my brothers, um,
with my beautiful wife.
Like, we had so many great timestogether, just her and I.
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Um, and it was amazing.
Like, we we went to St.
Lucia, it was our secondexcursion, uh, and we had like a
four to seven hour boat ride,depending on how long we wanted
to keep it.
And uh it was just a privateboat tour.
This guy took us to all thesedifferent snorkeling places.
I was swimming, um, I got downto 50 feet and saw things like
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lionfish, flounders, uh,needlenose fish, just cool
things I've never seen before.
It felt like I was in a naturedocumentary.
It was pretty weird, but prettycool at the same time.
And so um that's what was coolis just like being able to spend
that time.
You know, typically I'm movingall the time, I'm I'm trying to
stay busy, especially when I'mI'm working uh or doing things
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for getting after it.
Like I always want to try and beproductive, but on vacation,
that's not the point.
You know, the point's not to beproductive on a vacation.
Like I was sitting there readingfor two hours with my wife in
these little circle chairs, andfrom an outsider's perspective,
you'd say that's not productive.
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But for me, it was like, oh,well, this is a time I rarely
get.
I don't get a lot of time withmy wife because she is in
Arizona a lot of days during theweek, which sucks.
We hate it.
But some moments like that werelike, you know what, it might
not be productive, but this is Ineeded this.
Like, I needed to be with her.
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I needed to spend time withfamily.
Like I live in Utah, they're allin Arizona, and my brothers are
my best friends.
Um, I love my parents, I lovespending time with them, and
it's rare for me to be able justto go and hang out with them.
And so I guess it was a bigperspective shift for me to be
able to just say, like, you knowwhat?
Yeah, I'm not gonna be doing mytypical daily routine.
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I'm not gonna be out thererunning 10-mile trail runs.
I'm not gonna be waking up at 5a.m.
Um, not gonna be eating ashealthy as I normally would, but
it doesn't mean I'm not I'mgonna have a bad time.
Like, I'm gonna have a greattime because I'm with people I
love.
I'm with uh my wife, who is mybest friend.
Sorry, brothers, but she's mybest friend.
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Like she is so much fun, shemakes me laugh all the time.
Um, and it was just nice to beable to do things like that
because I feel like in life, uh,at least for me, I will try and
go from one thing to the nextvery quickly because I want to
see how much I can get donethroughout the day.
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And it's tough for me becauseyou know, I talk about getting
after it, I talk about all thesethings like be productive,
always try and push yourselfjust a little bit better, which
that is the the spine of whatgetting after it is it's just
small increments that get youone step further towards your
goals or to whatever you'retrying to achieve in your life.
Um, and so for me, someone wholike talks about these things,
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preaches it, tries tries to liveit as best as he can.
Um, you know, it took me a whilejust to get used to that feeling
of just hey, there's noschedule.
Besides the days we hadexcursions, there's no schedule.
So we just made it ourselves.
And um I will say though, we didget a uh a get in after a hike
in my wife and I, we were inAntigua and we met this uh taxi
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driver.
Her name was Blondie.
She was she was dope.
Um she dyed her hair blonde, shehad these blonde braids in a
bun.
Uh, and she's like, Yeah,Blondie, uh, I'll take you
wherever you want to go.
And we're like, Yeah, well, wewant to go on a hike.
Like, take us to a hike.
And so Blondie's like hyping upthis hike on our way there.
We get there, she's like, Yeah,just go up this this mountain.
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It's the hike.
And then you can go down to thisbeach when you're done.
We're like, okay.
So we went on this hike, it wasliterally like half a mile, but
it was gorgeous.
We saw like a great view of theisland.
Um, we saw the bay, and then thewater there is unbelievable.
It's just crystal clear.
No, it's not even it is crystalclear, but it's like bright
teal, like it's unbelievable.
Um, but after the hike, like mywife and I we went down to the
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beach and we had the beach toourselves for two hours, which
was unbelievable.
We're in the Caribbean, we're inAntigua, it's a beautiful sunny
day, and it's just my wife and Ion the beach.
Like, that was one of myfavorite memories, honestly, of
the whole trip.
Um, Allie might disagree, butlike, because it wasn't that
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exciting per se.
But I had a great time justhanging out with her and just
sharing that little moment.
So, um, but I want to talk aboutwhat I mentioned in the
beginning with how I had arealization about getting after
it.
So, story time again.
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Uh, my birthday's the 27th ofSeptember, and we were on the
cruise, we were going to theDominican Republic, it was our
last excursion day, and umhonestly, I hate celebrating my
birthday.
I've always had a hard time withit.
Um, and I don't know whathappened, but for some reason,
on uh my birthday, I woke upjust cranky and upset, and I
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kind of let that stay with mefor a good part of the day.
But um my wife is patient and Ilove her so much for that.
She understands me very well.
But um, I tried just keep it agood attitude, anyways.
So Allie and I we go up tobreakfast and she's like, make
sure you wear your getting afterit shirt, which is the one I'm
wearing right now.
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Um, so I wore that to breakfastand she was wearing one too.
And um as we walk to the tableto see my family, every single
one of them was wearing agetting after it shirt.
Um it was it was pretty cool.
And my daddy wasn't was he wasrocking a hat.
Um and so it was just like kindof surreal because like it's
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always been a dream for me tohave a brand that people wear,
and um, I've always wanted tohave a clothing brand, but
getting after it's not aclothing brand.
Getting after it is a communitythat aims to help people grow
and achieve their goals.
And the point of having agetting after it shirt is
basically to say, like, hey, I'mpart of this community.
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Like, I want to be part ofgetting after, I want to improve
myself so I can live a betterlife, so I can provide better
for my family, like whatever thesituation is, that's what
getting after it is, iscontinuing to improve until you
can't, right?
Um, which we're all humans, likewe're not gonna get perfect in
life, so there's alwaysopportunity to improve.
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But, anyways, my whole familywas wearing this these shirts.
Then I get a text from mymother-in-law, and her um, or
she was wearing a shirt, and sowas her husband.
And um it was just so cool.
Like, all of a sudden, all thesepeople were wearing my shirts.
I'm like, oh, that's crazy.
We go on the excursion, um, itwas fine, it was it was pretty
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fun.
We'd like hyped up waterfallsand whatever and swam in them.
Um, it was it was gross though.
The water looked like milk, uh,it looked like we were swimming
in milk, so that was kind ofgross.
Anyways, we get back to the boatand Allie's like, have you
checked Instagram?
And I'm like, no.
She's like, go check Instagram.
Um, and I went to go run.
She's like, go run, checkInstagram and and come back.
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And so I open up my phone, anduh I'm getting butterflies
thinking about it again.
Um, I open up my phone, andthere's all these people that
not my not people, all myfriends are wearing getting
after it shirts.
And they're not just wearinggetting after it shirts, they're
out getting after it.
Like uh my friend Justin, he waswearing a getting after it shirt
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while he was trail running, andthen um my friend Brittany and
Derek and and Justin, they wereall wearing them when they were
on a hike.
Um my friend Chase was wearingone, my buddy Michael, um, and
his wife Sarah, who they theysay they never run.
Um, and they they have told memany times that they don't want
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to run.
But they ran for the first timeand they tagged us.
And Michael and Sarah both madeposts um just giving me a
shout-out, which I know it seemslittle, but to me it means so
much.
Uh, my buddy Spencer, he worehis shirt.
He was on the podcast.
You guys know Spencer.
Um, he wore his shirt when hewas competing in a CrossFit
competition.
Like, awesome.
Uh Dallin Shirts, he was wearingone too.
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And DJ Take 2, my boy, he waswearing one.
Brayden was wearing one.
Um, it was just crazy.
Like, it was a dream come true,as weird as that sounds.
And and I I know it's just likeI'm I don't want it to sound
like I'm boasting at all.
I had nothing to do with this.
This was all Allie.
She planned this behind my back,um, and she's unbelievable for
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that.
But when I looked at it, likethey were all wearing the brand
I dreamed up of in my head.
And all of them were gettingafter it in their own different
way, and it was the best giftI've ever received.
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Um because at the like it's notabout the shirts, it's not about
the shirts at all.
What it's about is what itsymbolizes to me.
And people were telling me thatthey believed in the mission and
they believed in me.
And sometimes doing podcasts ishard because there's a lot of
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there's a lot of work that I dothat I don't think people
notice, which is fine, that'spart of the process.
I'm not trying to complain aboutthat.
I I knew that going into this.
But it was almost like peoplewere saying, Brett, you got
this.
Like, we love what you're doing,and we love the message, so
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don't stop.
Which again is principle, thoseare principles I talk about all
the time with getting after it,is you don't give up.
Um and it's something I'll neverforget.
Just being there and having thatrealization that it's not
because people were wearing myshirts.
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For me, it was more of peopletelling me that I believe in
you, I think that you can dothis, I support this, and I want
to be a part of it.
And it goes a long way forsomeone who has a dream.
And I I guess the only thing Iwould say there is if there's
someone who you know who's whohas a dream similar to what
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getting after it is, it could betheir own company or whatever,
support them any way you can.
Because it goes a long way.
Like, I appreciate all thoseguys and and girls for wearing
the shirts.
Like, it's a message to allthose those people.
You guys are the best.
You seriously not only uh showedme that you supported me, but
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you've given me a continue, likeyou've given me reason to
continue with more vigor.
Like, I want to put more intothis, and I want to show people
that they are in fact capable ofdoing so much more than they
thought was possible.
And it all starts with a chanceon yourself.
Um I also was thinking about thename getting after it.
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Like when I saw these shirts andI was like, getting after it's
kind of a mouthful, but the namewas intentional, and I'll I'll
talk I'll tell you why.
Um but I started thinking aboutI was like, yeah, it's a
mouthful, but I was like, Iwouldn't want to change the name
because I I will there's adistinction I want to talk
about.
When you hear the the phrase getafter it, that's a command.
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That also implies you haven'tstarted whatever journey you're
on.
Um it's what you tell yourselfwhen you're standing at the
bottom of the hill and you gottago up, right?
It's a start line.
But for me, getting after it isa way of life.
It's not about hype and it's notabout having motivation all the
time.
It's about showing up whenreally no one watches, when no
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one's there to cheer you on,like I was kind of talking
about.
Um it means you are failing,you're repeating, you're
learning, and you're improving.
And it's a cycle.
And it goes back to that quotefrom Aristotle that you are what
you repeatedly do, not what ornot what you say you'll do.
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So your habits determine who youare.
And when I started this podcast,I was a fraction of the man that
I am today.
I was I was trying, I wasscared, uh, but I was willing to
take the chance.
Like I wanted to see what thiscould turn into.
And I found out pretty quicklythat once you start living this
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way, when you commit to thecode, if that's what you want to
call it, you realize thateverything in life demands it.
It demands your attention, itdemands your focus, it demands
you to be willing to try.
It could be your health, yourcareer, your relationships.
Everything is on you to bewilling to make progress.
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And they all require the sameformula.
It's effort, reps, patience, andbelief.
I would argue belief becomesbefore ability.
So if we want to rephrase that,it could be belief, effort,
reps, and patience.
But it goes back to beliefbecause when you have that
patience, you have to believethat something is on the
horizon.
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You have to believe that yourwork that you've done is worth
whatever's gonna happen in thenext few, whatever it is.
But you have to have thatbelief.
And the reason I don't want tochange the name of getting after
it is because I've said thisbefore, but it is a lifelong
endeavor.
You don't just you're notgetting after it once.
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Like you might be getting afterit in a marathon, but your
journey shouldn't stop there.
Like you should be getting afterit right afterwards, not not
literally, like obviously, restup, otherwise your body will
explode, it'll blow up.
Um but that shouldn't be youryour peak.
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And if that's all you can do,great.
Maybe try that.
Or I'm not saying like you haveto run a marathon all the time,
I'm just saying don't stop.
Like, why would you stop?
You have already built up allthis endurance, you're healthy,
like why would you stop?
Um and same thing with like youryour endeavors, your personal
goals, your beliefs, or yourrelationships.
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Like, if there's no progress ina marriage, it's gonna fail.
Like, if you're not working togrow together, it's going to
fail.
And so getting after yourrelationship is continuous, it's
gonna happen until you you die,really.
Um, or you guys break up, orwhatever it is.
But um, you have to put thateffort in, you have to put the
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reps in, you have to be patientwith each other, you have to
learn from each other, and youhave to grow with each other.
That's getting after a arelationship.
With your fitness, getting afteryour fitness is always going to
look like you know, some someseasons you'll be really good,
some seasons you'll be prettybad, some seasons you'll be good
with your eating and innutrition, others you won't.
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But you can't give up.
Like, if you ate healthy for 25years of your life, let's say
you're 25 years old, you'veeaten healthy every single year,
you've done perfect.
Why would you just throw it awayto eat junk food and start to
feel worse about yourself, tostart feeling sick all the time?
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Like, might be a weird analogy,but all I'm saying is like that
25 years of consistency shouldnot just be thrown away because
you are tired of living thatlifestyle.
It gets tiresome.
Like sometimes it is monotonousto be doing the same things
every single day.
But you have to understand thatdelayed gratification brings
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higher rewards than instantgratification does.
Instant gratification just givesyou a dopamine hit.
It kind of scratches that itch alittle bit.
But delayed gratification, ifyou're able to get through
something, like if you're ableto train for a marathon for 12
weeks, and then you get to raceday, that's when your delayed
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gratification will pay off, iswhen you cross that finish line.
But that's 12 weeks that ofpatience.
And so you can kind of see howyou can you can understand this
cycle in the different thingsthat you do in life.
It could be your job, if you'reworking towards a promotion,
then you have to do your bestevery single day until you get
that promotion.
Who knows how long that couldbe?
It could be four weeks, fourmonths, four years.
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Are you patient enough?
Are you willing to stay in it?
By the way, if you're here'ssome career advice from Brett.
If you are working towards apromotion and you're working
four years for this promotion,you should probably find a
different company to work for.
That's all I would say.
Um but I you know it's it's allabout that continuous cycle of
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getting after it, which is why Iwant the name to stay as is.
Because I don't plan onstopping.
And you know, if I've heardDavid Goggin say this, like if
he had issues with his knees, ifhe broke his ankle and like or
got his legs amputated, he'dfind something else.
And I think that's the point iscan you find something to
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challenge yourself?
And when I was running on theboats or on the boat, it was
hard, it's harder than itnormally is to run.
Um, because like I said, theship varies, and you're going up
sometimes or going downsometimes.
But the important thing is likeI tried to give it my best
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effort, and it was a challengeon its own.
But every time I did it, youknow, even if the mileage wasn't
as high as I typically would go,I was still proud of it because
I know the effort that went intoit was was what I could give.
And so understanding that sideof things with yourself, like
how much can you give?
How much are you willing toendure?
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How good are you at enduring?
How good are you at beingfriends with discomfort?
Because that's the thing I'veI've I've learned, and that's
honestly the biggest takeawayfrom getting after it.
From the podcast, from myfitness journey to helping other
people, trying to help otherpeople, I should say, um,
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getting after my faith, like thediscomfort, sitting with the
discomfort makes it so muchbetter when you get through the
other side or you learn whateverit is that you're you're trying
to learn.
Like, let me back up and explainthis a little a little bit
easier.
So, like on a run, my bodyusually hurts.
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Like, not hurts, but it'suncomfortable, right?
You're breathing heavy, you'retrying to run, like sometimes
you're sore and doesn't feelgreat on your legs, but you just
try and endure, and you you havethat conversation with
discomfort where it asks you,can you take another step?
And only you can decide.
And if you can, and if you getto the point where you're like,
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okay, I'm gonna run five miles,and you get to the end of the
five miles, you'll be proud ofyourself.
And that proudness, actually, II'm not gonna be I'm not gonna
call it pride.
I'm gonna call it confidencebecause I think that's what it m
more like is.
Unless you are like if you getprideful about running five
miles, like you're boastingabout it, that's kind of
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embarrassing.
But you should be confident inyourself, you should be proud of
the effort that you did, butdon't boast.
Um But confidence is what Iwould call it.
The confidence that that you cando difficult things, and I'm not
just talking about fitness, I'mtalking about everything here.
If you push yourself in fitness,you'll learn that you can push
yourself in other areas, and itkind of bleeds into everything.
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Um and so I thought about acouple things, and I want to
wrap up with these two things,and it is the mission moving
forward.
What is the mission of gettingafter it moving forward?
Where's this thing going?
Well, I want this podcast to beglobal.
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I want my buddy Nicola in Serbiato be able to listen to this and
and and feel like he can gainsomething that might be able to
help him um in life in somedegree.
I want the brand to meansomething when you wear it, like
not.
Just some kind of style, butsubstance.
Like I want it to meancommunity.
When people see getting afterit, they automatically think
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community.
And it's a symbol that you aresomeone who is working hard hard
to improve yourself.
And it's a journey, and youunderstand that.
You choose hard things.
And that you kept going whenit's so much easier just to
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throw in the towel and quit.
But even if no one clapped andeven if no one bought a shirt um
forget from getting after it,even if I stayed um even if I
stayed as a tiny littleunderground show, literally, I'm
in a basement right now, um,that only a few people heard, it
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would all be worth it to me.
Why?
Well, because I've become somuch better because of getting
after it.
Better in really uh everything.
My career, my relationships, myfitness, my health, and I'm not
trying to boast.
I'm just trying to be honestwith you about what it's done
for my life.
Getting after it has literallyimproved my life.
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It takes effort, it takescommitment, but it holds me
accountable and it forces me tolive what I speak.
I don't want to be a hypocrite,but I can completely say that
this podcast has changed mylife.
And if you're still listening tome rambling right now, I hope
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you can say it's done somethingsimilar to you.
Even if it's the smallestpercentage change in your life.
Like, even if it's the mostsubtle thing.
But really, what I want peopleto know with getting after it is
you have to believe that changeis possible.
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You can change your behaviors,you can change your habits, you
can change who you arecompletely.
And it all takes effort, ittakes patience, like I said.
You gotta get the reps in, butit's possible.
And I don't I'm not gonna fliparound, but on the back of my
shirt, I wrote the uh thegetting after it, I call it the
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creed.
Um, but really what it is, it'sjust basically my idea of uh
what I want it to be, what Iwant getting after it to be.
And I put it on the back of ashirt, but here it is.
I'm gonna pull this up.
Um okay.
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So I wrote this um June 17th,2025.
It's called the future ofgetting after it, but I call it
the getting after creed.
And as I read this, I want youto think about what I want the
future of this to be.
And I want help.
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I want people to reach out to meand and see see what they can do
to make the movement go forward.
I don't want the credit.
I don't want the credit.
I just want people to know thatthey can do more.
And that takes a community ofpeople helping others along the
way to do exactly that.
Like the reason I'm on heretalking about these things is
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because I know it's benefited inmy life and I know it can do the
same to you.
So let me jump into this.
And uh I wrote it, so it mightbe a little colorful with the
language and not swearing, but Imean like detailed.
So, anyways, war looms.
AI is rewriting industries,markets are chaos, and right in
the middle of it, getting afterit is rising.
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What started in a basement inSaratoga Springs is no longer
just a podcast, it's becoming amovement, and not in some
gimmicky influencer has a visionboard way.
I mean a real, grounded, no BSmission to wake people up and
show them they've been sittingon a level of potential they've
barely scratched.
This movement is is aboutcommunity, but not the fake
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kind, not the everyone's perfecton Instagram kind.
It's a place for real people,people who are tired of living
small, people who are chasingsomething bigger, people who
felt the sting of fear, but laceup anyway.
Getting after it is for thosewho want to silence their
self-doubt, refuse to be ownedby comfort, understand their
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limits are man-made andbreakable.
We live in a time of constantcomparison.
Social media drowns us inhighlight reels and overnight
success stories.
But what most people don't seeis the grip behind it all the
reps, the quiet mornings, thesacrifices, the failures.
Most people don't want to hearit, but I'll say it.
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Discipline, consistency, andpatience are the keys, not
hacks, not shortcuts, just hardtruths.
And hard truths shape strongpeople.
The mission here is simple.
Push yourself, help others dothe same.
What if an entire communitylived by that rule?
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A world full of people showingup for themselves and each other
every single day.
That's the dream.
And it starts with action.
Whether it's your firstmarathon, your first gym
session, or just getting out ofbed and not quitting on
yourself, that's getting afterit.
This isn't just about fitness,it's about changing your
identity.
Because once you learndiscipline, once you learn to do
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what's hard when it'suncomfortable, it bleeds into
everything.
Your marriage, your career, yourrelationships, and your purpose.
This lifestyle isn't foreveryone.
Not because they're not capable,but because not everyone's
willing.
Willing to struggle, to show up,to risk failure.
But for those who are, this pathwill change you.
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You'll start to see yourselfdifferently.
You'll meet the version of youwho doesn't quit, and you'll
earn the right to be proud ofwho you've become.
Let me leave you with this, myfavorite quote from Teddy
Roosevelt.
The credit belongs to the manwho is actually in the arena,
who errs, who comes short againand again, but who does actually
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strive to do the deeds, whospends himself in a worthy
cause, so that his place shallnever be with those cold and
timid souls who neither knowvictory nor defeat.
If that's you, welcome.
You're in the arena now, andwe're just getting started.
Keep getting after it.
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I like to write.
If I could get my best thoughtsout when I write, so that's
where that came from.
But that is truly the mission.
Push yourself and help others dothe same.
If I could speak to my youngerself or to my future kids, I
would tell them this.
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I would say, you're strongerthan you think.
But you'll never find out unlessyou try.
And that's it.
You just have to try.
You have to try when it's hard,try when you feel small, try
when no one's watching, try whenit doesn't even make sense.
And slowly, piece by piece, yourlife will change.
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If you're listening to thispodcast, I assume you're a fan,
you're dedicated to gettingafter it.
So I want you to take thisseriously.
And I want you to think aboutthis question.
What's one thing you can dotoday that pushes you towards
your goals?
However small that might be.
What's one thing?
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Think about that and takeaction.
It all starts with action.
Guys, it is good to be back.
I appreciate you all listeningto this.
I am passionate about thisstuff.
I know that there's so manypeople out there who are just
sitting on potential that theyare they've yet to un untap.
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Like, there's so much out there.
People are amazing.
Human beings astonish me morethan anything else.
Like, yes, I love the mountains.
I love the ocean.
I love all these beautifulthings that are in the world,
right?
I love food.
But I think the thing thatreally just blows me away is
seeing human beings do crazystuff.
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Like Truett Haynes, DavidGoggins, Cameron Haynes, Andy
Glaze, Sally McRae.
Those are just people.
Michael Jordan, can't gottathrow him in there.
Kobe Bryant, like all thesepeople, they do amazing things.
But even like, you know, I thinkabout my mom.
I think about my sister-in-lawEmily, who has two twins and a
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child, like doing amazing stuffwhile she's still training.
There's people are resilient andthey have so much potential to
give.
But you haven't, you'll neverknow until you try.
And that's why I want you totake that challenge seriously.
Just think about something thatyou can start working towards
improving.
And get after it, baby.
It's life.
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It's what life's about.
Can you get better?
Yes, you can.
I believe in you.
And you're here, you're part ofthe community.
So let's do it together.
We're all in this together.
But seriously, thank you guysfor listening to this episode.
Um it always helps if you leavea rating on Spotify or MP
Podcasting, whatever, whateveryou guys listen to this on.
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I appreciate you guys.
I missed you all, and uh I'mhappy to be back.
Keep getting back here.
What an exciting time.
What an exciting time.
I'm back.
We are so back, guys.
I missed you all.
I missed doing this.
And I am glad that I'm finallyable to sit back down and record
another episode of GettingAfter.
It's about freaking time, guys.
So, welcome back to the show, myfriends.
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I am very happy to be here.
And um, yeah, I'm back in moreways than one.
Where was I?
Well, I um actually let me startwith a little story.
Last Christmas, 2024, my parentssurprised all our um my you
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know, the brothers and thebrothers in the family and their
wives with a cruise to whereverwe wanted in um the next year.
So 2025, we didn't know where wewere going, but my parents were
like, hey, well, let's all growgo on a cruise.
And I don't know, it was one ofthose things that like never
felt like it would come, youknow.
Um, I don't know if you've everhad anything like that, but like
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we were all excited when weopened up the gifts, and I was
like, oh man, this is gonna beso cool.
And kind of put it on the backburner, and then all of a
sudden, boom, cruise time showsup.
So it was a lot of fun.
Um, and I'm glad I was able togo.
But this episode I want to dosomething a little bit different
because I want to explain whathappened on the cruise, the
things that I was able to do uha little bit, and talk about how
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I was able to get after it stilluh to the best of my ability.
It was harder than it normallyis, uh, and I'll get into that.
But the other part of what Iwant to talk about today is some
lessons that I learned and arealization I had while I was on
the cruise about getting afterit.
And let's just start at thebeginning because I think that's
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a a fair place to go.
So we uh ended up going to FortLauderdale, excuse me, which is
where our cruise is gonnadepart, and we were gonna go to
the Caribbean.
So the schedule was we had twodays at sea.
We went to St.
Kitts, St.
Lucia, Antigua, St.
Thomas, and finally theDominican Republic was our last
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stop, and then another day atsea to get back.
So a lot of time on a boat, andI've been on one cruise before.
I was not the most fun to bearound.
I think it's because I was verystressed, and unfortunately for
Allie, uh, it was our honeymoon.
So I still apologize for that,Al.
Sorry, I was uh butthead on thattrip.
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But cruises, I was like, okay,these are not my thing because
it goes against kind ofeverything I talk about.
Like you go on these things, youindulge, you relax so much.
Um, you kind of take time awayfrom your routine.
And I'm not someone who likes todo that.
I am very strict in my routine.
Like, I want to make sure I'malways able to do the things
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that I won't want to.
Um, and that includes gettingafter it.
Like, that's very important tome to be able to find ways I can
continuously get after it.
And on a cruise, that's hard todo because you're surrounded by
temptation.
Like all these, you go up to thebuffet, and it's like, okay, you
can get an ice cream cone, youcan get some pizza, you can go
make a nacho plate, see like allthese different cheeses that
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they have.
Um, they'd be whipping up likeall these nice meats that you
can just go and be like, hey,give me a slab of whatever that
is.
But um it was hard for me at thebeginning to let go, like just
to get into vacation mode.
But what really surprised me islike once I did, once I was
like, okay, you know, there's noescaping this.
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I am going to be on this boat, Imight as well make the most of
it.
Time to get present, which issomething I always try and go
back to.
Like, if I'm ever in a situationwhere I'm upset or angry or um
anxious about something, like ona cruise, I always felt anxious.
Uh I I mean I did fight thesefeelings a lot on the cruise,
but like I'd feel anxious thatthere was something I was
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supposed to be doing that Iwasn't.
And you just like I had to letit go.
I had to realize that as thiswas my reality for the next nine
days, and I know I'm complainingabout a cruise, but um it's very
it's made to relax, and I'm notsomeone who does very well with
that.
So it was um hard at first, butI started getting the hang of
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things, and my goal for the weekwas just to see how much I could
run.
Um, you know, I have an ultramarathon coming up in two and a
half weeks.
It's coming up, oh, it's comingup, guys.
And uh I still wanted to makesure I could run.
And so I I found myself in thegym uh almost every day trying
to run on a boat.
It's difficult because as theboat rocks, it's kind of like
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you're going uphill sometimes,and other times it's like you're
free-falling, and you're like,what is happening?
Um, on top of that, it's rockingside to side, so you have to
like stabilize yourself, andit's uh it's an ordeal on its
own.
Plus, this uh because we were inthe Caribbean, it was
unbelievably sweaty and humidand hot.
So I was battling that as well.
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But you know, I just did what Ican.
And same thing with the buffet,like eating on a cruise.
You know, you hear stories wherepeople go on a cruise, they gain
five pounds, other people gainten.
Um the real big hitters are outthere gaining 20 pounds on a
cruise.
Shout out to them.
Um, but I didn't want to dothat.
Like, I don't want to lose, or Idon't want to gain a bunch of
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weight because then I would knowI'd have to lose it.
Because with an ultra marathon,like I'd like to stay leaner uh
on the leaner side if I can,because the less weight that you
have, the easier it is on yourbody.
Uh just been my own experience.
And so I'm trying to stay like Iwas trying to stay relatively
lean on this cruise, but you goup there, and like I said, like
there's all these desserts, andthere's so much to indulge in
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and so much to try.
Like you want to get yourmoney's worth, right?
So you gotta go over and justtry every little bit of
everything and get that Frenchfry there and a chicken nugget
there.
Delicious, so good.
Hot dogs, oh man.
And that's the thing, it's likeI realized you know, it's it's
okay to not be perfect all thetime.
Um and I I feel like that's atrap that I often put myself in,
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and I'm sure many other peopledo too, but perfection is it can
be a goal killer sometimesbecause if you're not staying
100% perfect with whateveryou're doing, you might get
discouraged.
You might say, oh man, well,maybe I'm not cut out for this
if I'm not able to um stayconsistent or whatever the story
is that you're telling yourself.
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But I think it's important to beable to just know that it's okay
to be not perfect all the time.
Human beings are flawed, our nwe are flawed by nature.
Like we always make mistakes.
There's not one human besidesJesus Christ that hasn't made a
mistake.
And that's well, I guess let mebacktrack.
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Jesus Christ was um half god, sohe was the son of God.
So I guess he technically wasn'ta human.
Um He's a demigod, maybe onEarth.
I'm gonna get that wrong.
I might get some some commentson that, but um, anyways, I
wasn't perfect, and nothinghappened.
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You know, I was expecting, ohman, I'm gonna wake up the next
day and I'll be five poundsheavier.
Nothing happened.
Um obviously I wasn't going outof control, but every night, I
don't know if you've been on acruise, but at nighttime you go
to the dining room and you havethe same servers you do every
single night, so you like areable to meet them and they're
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awesome.
Like we met this guy namedNicola, he was from Serbia.
That dude is the man.
Um, he's now back home with hisson, which is awesome.
But Nicola, if you're listeningto this, which I don't know how
you would, but you're the man.
Thanks for the service.
You're your good friend.
Um, but anyway, so you go to thedining room, they'll bring you
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appetizers first.
You can order whatever you want,as much as you want.
It's kind of ridiculous.
Then you order your entree.
Once you're done with that, theycome over with another menu, and
you're like, okay, this is whatI'll have for dessert.
Um, and I got one every night.
Did I eat the whole thing everynight?
No.
But did I take bites for sure?
Um, and then after the dinner,we'd go up to the buffet to play
cards, and we'd get pizza andmelon and all this crazy stuff.
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I never do things like that.
And so honestly, it was kind offun for me to do those things.
I wouldn't do it all the timebecause I felt kind of gross
each day, but it was kind offun.
And surprisingly enough, Isomehow lost 15 pounds on the
cruise, so I think I wascruising wrong, but um, or it's
just water weight, which is morelikely because I drink about a
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gallon and a half a day to twogallons.
So, anyways, I'm talking a lotabout the experience on the
cruise and and some of thethings that like I try to do
with getting after it.
Um, I spent a lot of timereading, which is super nice.
Like, that's something I Ihaven't been able to do a lot,
and finished Project Hail Mary.
If you haven't read that book,or if you're into sci-fi, I
would highly suggest it.
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It's a fun book to read, greatstory.
Um, same guy that did theMartian.
So if you like that book ormovie, you will probably like
Project Hail Mary.
Anyways, so had a great time onthe cruise.
I was able to make so manymemories with my brothers, um,
with my beautiful wife.
Like, we had so many great timestogether, just her and I.
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Um, and it was amazing.
Like, we we went to St.
Lucia, it was our secondexcursion, uh, and we had like a
four to seven hour boat ride,depending on how long we wanted
to keep it.
And uh it was just a privateboat tour.
This guy took us to all thesedifferent snorkeling places.
I was swimming, um, I got downto 50 feet and saw things like
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lionfish, flounders, uh,needlenose fish, just cool
things I've never seen before.
It felt like I was in a naturedocumentary.
It was pretty weird, but prettycool at the same time.
And so um that's what was coolis just like being able to spend
that time.
You know, typically I'm movingall the time, I'm I'm trying to
stay busy, especially when I'mI'm working uh or doing things
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for getting after it.
Like I always want to try and beproductive, but on vacation,
that's not the point.
You know, the point's not to beproductive on a vacation.
Like I was sitting there readingfor two hours with my wife in
these little circle chairs, andfrom an outsider's perspective,
you'd say that's not productive.
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But for me, it was like, oh,well, this is a time I rarely
get.
I don't get a lot of time withmy wife because she is in
Arizona a lot of days during theweek, which sucks.
We hate it.
But some moments like that werelike, you know what, it might
not be productive, but this is Ineeded this.
Like, I needed to be with her.
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I needed to spend time withfamily.
Like I live in Utah, they're allin Arizona, and my brothers are
my best friends.
Um, I love my parents, I lovespending time with them, and
it's rare for me to be able justto go and hang out with them.
And so I guess it was a bigperspective shift for me to be
able to just say, like, you knowwhat?
Yeah, I'm not gonna be doing mytypical daily routine.
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I'm not gonna be out thererunning 10-mile trail runs.
I'm not gonna be waking up at 5a.m.
Um, not gonna be eating ashealthy as I normally would, but
it doesn't mean I'm not I'mgonna have a bad time.
Like, I'm gonna have a greattime because I'm with people I
love.
I'm with uh my wife, who is mybest friend.
Sorry, brothers, but she's mybest friend.
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Like she is so much fun, shemakes me laugh all the time.
Um, and it was just nice to beable to do things like that
because I feel like in life, uh,at least for me, I will try and
go from one thing to the nextvery quickly because I want to
see how much I can get donethroughout the day.
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And it's tough for me becauseyou know, I talk about getting
after it, I talk about all thesethings like be productive,
always try and push yourselfjust a little bit better, which
that is the the spine of whatgetting after it is it's just
small increments that get youone step further towards your
goals or to whatever you'retrying to achieve in your life.
Um, and so for me, someone wholike talks about these things,
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preaches it, tries tries to liveit as best as he can.
Um, you know, it took me a whilejust to get used to that feeling
of just hey, there's noschedule.
Besides the days we hadexcursions, there's no schedule.
So we just made it ourselves.
And um I will say though, we didget a uh a get in after a hike
in my wife and I, we were inAntigua and we met this uh taxi
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driver.
Her name was Blondie.
She was she was dope.
Um she dyed her hair blonde, shehad these blonde braids in a
bun.
Uh, and she's like, Yeah,Blondie, uh, I'll take you
wherever you want to go.
And we're like, Yeah, well, wewant to go on a hike.
Like, take us to a hike.
And so Blondie's like hyping upthis hike on our way there.
We get there, she's like, Yeah,just go up this this mountain.
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It's the hike.
And then you can go down to thisbeach when you're done.
We're like, okay.
So we went on this hike, it wasliterally like half a mile, but
it was gorgeous.
We saw like a great view of theisland.
Um, we saw the bay, and then thewater there is unbelievable.
It's just crystal clear.
No, it's not even it is crystalclear, but it's like bright
teal, like it's unbelievable.
Um, but after the hike, like mywife and I we went down to the
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beach and we had the beach toourselves for two hours, which
was unbelievable.
We're in the Caribbean, we're inAntigua, it's a beautiful sunny
day, and it's just my wife and Ion the beach.
Like, that was one of myfavorite memories, honestly, of
the whole trip.
Um, Allie might disagree, butlike, because it wasn't that
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exciting per se.
But I had a great time justhanging out with her and just
sharing that little moment.
So, um, but I want to talk aboutwhat I mentioned in the
beginning with how I had arealization about getting after
it.
So, story time again.
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Uh, my birthday's the 27th ofSeptember, and we were on the
cruise, we were going to theDominican Republic, it was our
last excursion day, and umhonestly, I hate celebrating my
birthday.
I've always had a hard time withit.
Um, and I don't know whathappened, but for some reason,
on uh my birthday, I woke upjust cranky and upset, and I
(14:29):
kind of let that stay with mefor a good part of the day.
But um my wife is patient and Ilove her so much for that.
She understands me very well.
But um, I tried just keep it agood attitude, anyways.
So Allie and I we go up tobreakfast and she's like, make
sure you wear your getting afterit shirt, which is the one I'm
wearing right now.
(14:49):
Um, so I wore that to breakfastand she was wearing one too.
And um as we walk to the tableto see my family, every single
one of them was wearing agetting after it shirt.
Um it was it was pretty cool.
And my daddy wasn't was he wasrocking a hat.
Um and so it was just like kindof surreal because like it's
(15:15):
always been a dream for me tohave a brand that people wear,
and um, I've always wanted tohave a clothing brand, but
getting after it's not aclothing brand.
Getting after it is a communitythat aims to help people grow
and achieve their goals.
And the point of having agetting after it shirt is
basically to say, like, hey, I'mpart of this community.
(15:36):
Like, I want to be part ofgetting after, I want to improve
myself so I can live a betterlife, so I can provide better
for my family, like whatever thesituation is, that's what
getting after it is, iscontinuing to improve until you
can't, right?
Um, which we're all humans, likewe're not gonna get perfect in
life, so there's alwaysopportunity to improve.
(15:58):
But, anyways, my whole familywas wearing this these shirts.
Then I get a text from mymother-in-law, and her um, or
she was wearing a shirt, and sowas her husband.
And um it was just so cool.
Like, all of a sudden, all thesepeople were wearing my shirts.
I'm like, oh, that's crazy.
We go on the excursion, um, itwas fine, it was it was pretty
(16:19):
fun.
We'd like hyped up waterfallsand whatever and swam in them.
Um, it was it was gross though.
The water looked like milk, uh,it looked like we were swimming
in milk, so that was kind ofgross.
Anyways, we get back to the boatand Allie's like, have you
checked Instagram?
And I'm like, no.
She's like, go check Instagram.
Um, and I went to go run.
She's like, go run, checkInstagram and and come back.
(16:42):
And so I open up my phone, anduh I'm getting butterflies
thinking about it again.
Um, I open up my phone, andthere's all these people that
not my not people, all myfriends are wearing getting
after it shirts.
And they're not just wearinggetting after it shirts, they're
out getting after it.
Like uh my friend Justin, he waswearing a getting after it shirt
(17:04):
while he was trail running, andthen um my friend Brittany and
Derek and and Justin, they wereall wearing them when they were
on a hike.
Um my friend Chase was wearingone, my buddy Michael, um, and
his wife Sarah, who they theysay they never run.
Um, and they they have told memany times that they don't want
(17:26):
to run.
But they ran for the first timeand they tagged us.
And Michael and Sarah both madeposts um just giving me a
shout-out, which I know it seemslittle, but to me it means so
much.
Uh, my buddy Spencer, he worehis shirt.
He was on the podcast.
You guys know Spencer.
Um, he wore his shirt when hewas competing in a CrossFit
competition.
Like, awesome.
Uh Dallin Shirts, he was wearingone too.
(17:49):
And DJ Take 2, my boy, he waswearing one.
Brayden was wearing one.
Um, it was just crazy.
Like, it was a dream come true,as weird as that sounds.
And and I I know it's just likeI'm I don't want it to sound
like I'm boasting at all.
I had nothing to do with this.
This was all Allie.
She planned this behind my back,um, and she's unbelievable for
(18:13):
that.
But when I looked at it, likethey were all wearing the brand
I dreamed up of in my head.
And all of them were gettingafter it in their own different
way, and it was the best giftI've ever received.
(18:33):
Um because at the like it's notabout the shirts, it's not about
the shirts at all.
What it's about is what itsymbolizes to me.
And people were telling me thatthey believed in the mission and
they believed in me.
And sometimes doing podcasts ishard because there's a lot of
(18:55):
there's a lot of work that I dothat I don't think people
notice, which is fine, that'spart of the process.
I'm not trying to complain aboutthat.
I I knew that going into this.
But it was almost like peoplewere saying, Brett, you got
this.
Like, we love what you're doing,and we love the message, so
(19:15):
don't stop.
Which again is principle, thoseare principles I talk about all
the time with getting after it,is you don't give up.
Um and it's something I'll neverforget.
Just being there and having thatrealization that it's not
because people were wearing myshirts.
(19:35):
For me, it was more of peopletelling me that I believe in
you, I think that you can dothis, I support this, and I want
to be a part of it.
And it goes a long way forsomeone who has a dream.
And I I guess the only thing Iwould say there is if there's
someone who you know who's whohas a dream similar to what
(19:57):
getting after it is, it could betheir own company or whatever,
support them any way you can.
Because it goes a long way.
Like, I appreciate all thoseguys and and girls for wearing
the shirts.
Like, it's a message to allthose those people.
You guys are the best.
You seriously not only uh showedme that you supported me, but
(20:19):
you've given me a continue, likeyou've given me reason to
continue with more vigor.
Like, I want to put more intothis, and I want to show people
that they are in fact capable ofdoing so much more than they
thought was possible.
And it all starts with a chanceon yourself.
Um I also was thinking about thename getting after it.
(20:40):
Like when I saw these shirts andI was like, getting after it's
kind of a mouthful, but the namewas intentional, and I'll I'll
talk I'll tell you why.
Um but I started thinking aboutI was like, yeah, it's a
mouthful, but I was like, Iwouldn't want to change the name
because I I will there's adistinction I want to talk
about.
When you hear the the phrase getafter it, that's a command.
(21:01):
That also implies you haven'tstarted whatever journey you're
on.
Um it's what you tell yourselfwhen you're standing at the
bottom of the hill and you gottago up, right?
It's a start line.
But for me, getting after it isa way of life.
It's not about hype and it's notabout having motivation all the
time.
It's about showing up whenreally no one watches, when no
(21:23):
one's there to cheer you on,like I was kind of talking
about.
Um it means you are failing,you're repeating, you're
learning, and you're improving.
And it's a cycle.
And it goes back to that quotefrom Aristotle that you are what
you repeatedly do, not what ornot what you say you'll do.
(21:45):
So your habits determine who youare.
And when I started this podcast,I was a fraction of the man that
I am today.
I was I was trying, I wasscared, uh, but I was willing to
take the chance.
Like I wanted to see what thiscould turn into.
And I found out pretty quicklythat once you start living this
(22:07):
way, when you commit to thecode, if that's what you want to
call it, you realize thateverything in life demands it.
It demands your attention, itdemands your focus, it demands
you to be willing to try.
It could be your health, yourcareer, your relationships.
Everything is on you to bewilling to make progress.
(22:29):
And they all require the sameformula.
It's effort, reps, patience, andbelief.
I would argue belief becomesbefore ability.
So if we want to rephrase that,it could be belief, effort,
reps, and patience.
But it goes back to beliefbecause when you have that
patience, you have to believethat something is on the
horizon.
(22:50):
You have to believe that yourwork that you've done is worth
whatever's gonna happen in thenext few, whatever it is.
But you have to have thatbelief.
And the reason I don't want tochange the name of getting after
it is because I've said thisbefore, but it is a lifelong
endeavor.
You don't just you're notgetting after it once.
(23:11):
Like you might be getting afterit in a marathon, but your
journey shouldn't stop there.
Like you should be getting afterit right afterwards, not not
literally, like obviously, restup, otherwise your body will
explode, it'll blow up.
Um but that shouldn't be youryour peak.
(23:33):
And if that's all you can do,great.
Maybe try that.
Or I'm not saying like you haveto run a marathon all the time,
I'm just saying don't stop.
Like, why would you stop?
You have already built up allthis endurance, you're healthy,
like why would you stop?
Um and same thing with like youryour endeavors, your personal
goals, your beliefs, or yourrelationships.
(23:58):
Like, if there's no progress ina marriage, it's gonna fail.
Like, if you're not working togrow together, it's going to
fail.
And so getting after yourrelationship is continuous, it's
gonna happen until you you die,really.
Um, or you guys break up, orwhatever it is.
But um, you have to put thateffort in, you have to put the
(24:19):
reps in, you have to be patientwith each other, you have to
learn from each other, and youhave to grow with each other.
That's getting after a arelationship.
With your fitness, getting afteryour fitness is always going to
look like you know, some someseasons you'll be really good,
some seasons you'll be prettybad, some seasons you'll be good
with your eating and innutrition, others you won't.
(24:41):
But you can't give up.
Like, if you ate healthy for 25years of your life, let's say
you're 25 years old, you'veeaten healthy every single year,
you've done perfect.
Why would you just throw it awayto eat junk food and start to
feel worse about yourself, tostart feeling sick all the time?
(25:02):
Like, might be a weird analogy,but all I'm saying is like that
25 years of consistency shouldnot just be thrown away because
you are tired of living thatlifestyle.
It gets tiresome.
Like sometimes it is monotonousto be doing the same things
every single day.
But you have to understand thatdelayed gratification brings
(25:24):
higher rewards than instantgratification does.
Instant gratification just givesyou a dopamine hit.
It kind of scratches that itch alittle bit.
But delayed gratification, ifyou're able to get through
something, like if you're ableto train for a marathon for 12
weeks, and then you get to raceday, that's when your delayed
(25:45):
gratification will pay off, iswhen you cross that finish line.
But that's 12 weeks that ofpatience.
And so you can kind of see howyou can you can understand this
cycle in the different thingsthat you do in life.
It could be your job, if you'reworking towards a promotion,
then you have to do your bestevery single day until you get
that promotion.
Who knows how long that couldbe?
It could be four weeks, fourmonths, four years.
(26:07):
Are you patient enough?
Are you willing to stay in it?
By the way, if you're here'ssome career advice from Brett.
If you are working towards apromotion and you're working
four years for this promotion,you should probably find a
different company to work for.
That's all I would say.
Um but I you know it's it's allabout that continuous cycle of
(26:31):
getting after it, which is why Iwant the name to stay as is.
Because I don't plan onstopping.
And you know, if I've heardDavid Goggin say this, like if
he had issues with his knees, ifhe broke his ankle and like or
got his legs amputated, he'dfind something else.
And I think that's the point iscan you find something to
(26:52):
challenge yourself?
And when I was running on theboats or on the boat, it was
hard, it's harder than itnormally is to run.
Um, because like I said, theship varies, and you're going up
sometimes or going downsometimes.
But the important thing is likeI tried to give it my best
(27:13):
effort, and it was a challengeon its own.
But every time I did it, youknow, even if the mileage wasn't
as high as I typically would go,I was still proud of it because
I know the effort that went intoit was was what I could give.
And so understanding that sideof things with yourself, like
how much can you give?
How much are you willing toendure?
(27:34):
How good are you at enduring?
How good are you at beingfriends with discomfort?
Because that's the thing I'veI've I've learned, and that's
honestly the biggest takeawayfrom getting after it.
From the podcast, from myfitness journey to helping other
people, trying to help otherpeople, I should say, um,
(27:57):
getting after my faith, like thediscomfort, sitting with the
discomfort makes it so muchbetter when you get through the
other side or you learn whateverit is that you're you're trying
to learn.
Like, let me back up and explainthis a little a little bit
easier.
So, like on a run, my bodyusually hurts.
(28:19):
Like, not hurts, but it'suncomfortable, right?
You're breathing heavy, you'retrying to run, like sometimes
you're sore and doesn't feelgreat on your legs, but you just
try and endure, and you you havethat conversation with
discomfort where it asks you,can you take another step?
And only you can decide.
And if you can, and if you getto the point where you're like,
(28:39):
okay, I'm gonna run five miles,and you get to the end of the
five miles, you'll be proud ofyourself.
And that proudness, actually, II'm not gonna be I'm not gonna
call it pride.
I'm gonna call it confidencebecause I think that's what it m
more like is.
Unless you are like if you getprideful about running five
miles, like you're boastingabout it, that's kind of
(29:02):
embarrassing.
But you should be confident inyourself, you should be proud of
the effort that you did, butdon't boast.
Um But confidence is what Iwould call it.
The confidence that that you cando difficult things, and I'm not
just talking about fitness, I'mtalking about everything here.
If you push yourself in fitness,you'll learn that you can push
yourself in other areas, and itkind of bleeds into everything.
(29:25):
Um and so I thought about acouple things, and I want to
wrap up with these two things,and it is the mission moving
forward.
What is the mission of gettingafter it moving forward?
Where's this thing going?
Well, I want this podcast to beglobal.
(29:47):
I want my buddy Nicola in Serbiato be able to listen to this and
and and feel like he can gainsomething that might be able to
help him um in life in somedegree.
I want the brand to meansomething when you wear it, like
not.
Just some kind of style, butsubstance.
Like I want it to meancommunity.
When people see getting afterit, they automatically think
(30:08):
community.
And it's a symbol that you aresomeone who is working hard hard
to improve yourself.
And it's a journey, and youunderstand that.
You choose hard things.
And that you kept going whenit's so much easier just to
(30:33):
throw in the towel and quit.
But even if no one clapped andeven if no one bought a shirt um
forget from getting after it,even if I stayed um even if I
stayed as a tiny littleunderground show, literally, I'm
in a basement right now, um,that only a few people heard, it
(30:54):
would all be worth it to me.
Why?
Well, because I've become somuch better because of getting
after it.
Better in really uh everything.
My career, my relationships, myfitness, my health, and I'm not
trying to boast.
I'm just trying to be honestwith you about what it's done
for my life.
Getting after it has literallyimproved my life.
(31:17):
It takes effort, it takescommitment, but it holds me
accountable and it forces me tolive what I speak.
I don't want to be a hypocrite,but I can completely say that
this podcast has changed mylife.
And if you're still listening tome rambling right now, I hope
(31:38):
you can say it's done somethingsimilar to you.
Even if it's the smallestpercentage change in your life.
Like, even if it's the mostsubtle thing.
But really, what I want peopleto know with getting after it is
you have to believe that changeis possible.
(32:00):
You can change your behaviors,you can change your habits, you
can change who you arecompletely.
And it all takes effort, ittakes patience, like I said.
You gotta get the reps in, butit's possible.
And I don't I'm not gonna fliparound, but on the back of my
shirt, I wrote the uh thegetting after it, I call it the
(32:23):
creed.
Um, but really what it is, it'sjust basically my idea of uh
what I want it to be, what Iwant getting after it to be.
And I put it on the back of ashirt, but here it is.
I'm gonna pull this up.
Um okay.
(32:44):
So I wrote this um June 17th,2025.
It's called the future ofgetting after it, but I call it
the getting after creed.
And as I read this, I want youto think about what I want the
future of this to be.
And I want help.
(33:05):
I want people to reach out to meand and see see what they can do
to make the movement go forward.
I don't want the credit.
I don't want the credit.
I just want people to know thatthey can do more.
And that takes a community ofpeople helping others along the
way to do exactly that.
Like the reason I'm on heretalking about these things is
(33:27):
because I know it's benefited inmy life and I know it can do the
same to you.
So let me jump into this.
And uh I wrote it, so it mightbe a little colorful with the
language and not swearing, but Imean like detailed.
So, anyways, war looms.
AI is rewriting industries,markets are chaos, and right in
the middle of it, getting afterit is rising.
(33:50):
What started in a basement inSaratoga Springs is no longer
just a podcast, it's becoming amovement, and not in some
gimmicky influencer has a visionboard way.
I mean a real, grounded, no BSmission to wake people up and
show them they've been sittingon a level of potential they've
barely scratched.
This movement is is aboutcommunity, but not the fake
(34:12):
kind, not the everyone's perfecton Instagram kind.
It's a place for real people,people who are tired of living
small, people who are chasingsomething bigger, people who
felt the sting of fear, but laceup anyway.
Getting after it is for thosewho want to silence their
self-doubt, refuse to be ownedby comfort, understand their
(34:32):
limits are man-made andbreakable.
We live in a time of constantcomparison.
Social media drowns us inhighlight reels and overnight
success stories.
But what most people don't seeis the grip behind it all the
reps, the quiet mornings, thesacrifices, the failures.
Most people don't want to hearit, but I'll say it.
(34:53):
Discipline, consistency, andpatience are the keys, not
hacks, not shortcuts, just hardtruths.
And hard truths shape strongpeople.
The mission here is simple.
Push yourself, help others dothe same.
What if an entire communitylived by that rule?
(35:15):
A world full of people showingup for themselves and each other
every single day.
That's the dream.
And it starts with action.
Whether it's your firstmarathon, your first gym
session, or just getting out ofbed and not quitting on
yourself, that's getting afterit.
This isn't just about fitness,it's about changing your
identity.
Because once you learndiscipline, once you learn to do
(35:37):
what's hard when it'suncomfortable, it bleeds into
everything.
Your marriage, your career, yourrelationships, and your purpose.
This lifestyle isn't foreveryone.
Not because they're not capable,but because not everyone's
willing.
Willing to struggle, to show up,to risk failure.
But for those who are, this pathwill change you.
(36:01):
You'll start to see yourselfdifferently.
You'll meet the version of youwho doesn't quit, and you'll
earn the right to be proud ofwho you've become.
Let me leave you with this, myfavorite quote from Teddy
Roosevelt.
The credit belongs to the manwho is actually in the arena,
who errs, who comes short againand again, but who does actually
(36:21):
strive to do the deeds, whospends himself in a worthy
cause, so that his place shallnever be with those cold and
timid souls who neither knowvictory nor defeat.
If that's you, welcome.
You're in the arena now, andwe're just getting started.
Keep getting after it.
(36:44):
I like to write.
If I could get my best thoughtsout when I write, so that's
where that came from.
But that is truly the mission.
Push yourself and help others dothe same.
If I could speak to my youngerself or to my future kids, I
would tell them this.
(37:05):
I would say, you're strongerthan you think.
But you'll never find out unlessyou try.
And that's it.
You just have to try.
You have to try when it's hard,try when you feel small, try
when no one's watching, try whenit doesn't even make sense.
And slowly, piece by piece, yourlife will change.
(37:28):
If you're listening to thispodcast, I assume you're a fan,
you're dedicated to gettingafter it.
So I want you to take thisseriously.
And I want you to think aboutthis question.
What's one thing you can dotoday that pushes you towards
your goals?
However small that might be.
What's one thing?
(37:48):
Think about that and takeaction.
It all starts with action.
Guys, it is good to be back.
I appreciate you all listeningto this.
I am passionate about thisstuff.
I know that there's so manypeople out there who are just
sitting on potential that theyare they've yet to un untap.
(38:09):
Like, there's so much out there.
People are amazing.
Human beings astonish me morethan anything else.
Like, yes, I love the mountains.
I love the ocean.
I love all these beautifulthings that are in the world,
right?
I love food.
But I think the thing thatreally just blows me away is
seeing human beings do crazystuff.
(38:31):
Like Truett Haynes, DavidGoggins, Cameron Haynes, Andy
Glaze, Sally McRae.
Those are just people.
Michael Jordan, can't gottathrow him in there.
Kobe Bryant, like all thesepeople, they do amazing things.
But even like, you know, I thinkabout my mom.
I think about my sister-in-lawEmily, who has two twins and a
(38:54):
child, like doing amazing stuffwhile she's still training.
There's people are resilient andthey have so much potential to
give.
But you haven't, you'll neverknow until you try.
And that's why I want you totake that challenge seriously.
Just think about something thatyou can start working towards
improving.
And get after it, baby.
It's life.
(39:15):
It's what life's about.
Can you get better?
Yes, you can.
I believe in you.
And you're here, you're part ofthe community.
So let's do it together.
We're all in this together.
But seriously, thank you guysfor listening to this episode.
Um it always helps if you leavea rating on Spotify or MP
Podcasting, whatever, whateveryou guys listen to this on.
(39:38):
I appreciate you guys.
I missed you all, and uh I'mhappy to be back.
Keep getting back here.
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