October 13, 2025 • 31 mins
What do you do when the plan falls apart?
In this episode, I share the story of a marathon-distance run that didn’t go as expected. My brother Drew and I had mapped out a desert route—then a storm rolled in. Flash flood warnings. Lightning. The whole thing went sideways. But we didn’t quit. We pivoted. We stuck to the plan, even if it meant finishing 26.2 miles on a treadmill.
This episode is about those moments when everything goes wrong and you have to decide: do I fold, or do I keep going?
If you're pushing for something hard right now—this one's for you.
3 Key Takeaways:
- Discipline means doing what you said you’d do—especially when it’s no longer fun.
- You don’t need perfect conditions to follow through. Just the decision to keep going.
- The plan matters. But who you become by sticking to it matters more.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Oh baby, do I have a story for you guys today?
I have a lot to say actually,and before we get into that, I
I've been thinking a lot aboutwhere I want to take the
direction of the podcast interms of the topics I cover and
the kind of guests I have on.
Uh I just want it to be morerelevant to the listener.
(00:23):
Like I want it to be actuallyimpactful impactful for the
people who are listening tothis.
And I want to make sure that Igive you guys actionable things
that you can take and implementinto your lives to make it a
little bit simpler and help youget after your goals a little,
not a little, a lot moresustainable, a lot more
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accountable, and get you therefor faster.
So, point of all that is if youhave ideas, if you have topics
you'd like me to cover to givemy own insight on or my own
thoughts about, I'd be happy totalk about it.
And I in fact, I would love tohear what you guys say and what
you'd like to hear.
(01:04):
So let me know.
Um, let me know in the commentsor wherever you guys uh just let
me know.
But I'm excited.
And for today's episode, I wantto talk about yesterday.
I had a very long training run Iwas supposed to be doing.
I in fact came down to Arizonauh so I could be with my wife
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over the weekend, so we weren'tdoing distance, it sucks.
And secondly, I wanted to runwith my brother Drew because
we're both training for an ultramarathon that's coming up in two
weeks, and this is our last bigeffort run, our la last long run
before we begin tapering andgetting ready for this actual
race.
And so our plan was simple.
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You know, we were going to go tothe desert, we were going to run
a full marathon in the desert.
Um, we were gonna bring, youknow, a cooler and and go back
to the car periodically.
We split it up so it was a12-mile loop.
Um, and we were just gonna dothat twice and then run a mile
and a half and back to to makeit the full marathon.
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And I was pumped, everything waslooking great.
Thursday, my brother and I wetalked about it, we were
excited, we talked about what weneeded, and then Friday rolls
around, and the weather forecastwas not promising.
It said lots of rain, and that'sthe problem with Arizona is it
doesn't rain.
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But when it does, it storms andit floods, and it's it's wild.
Like monsoon season in Arizonacan turn streets into rivers.
Like it's I've seen it manytimes, it's pretty cool
actually.
There's this quote I keep comingback to everyone has a plan
until they get punched in theface.
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Thank you, Mike Tyson.
That's what happened to us.
We kind of got punched in theface.
Our plan was simple.
We were going to wake up.
I was gonna go pick up Drew, wewere gonna get to the trail and
get it going.
But the plan went this way (03:04):
I woke up at 3 45 a.m.
It was cold, and got up, gotready, I was feeling good, and
then I got in the car andstarted driving, and it was
raining.
But then when I started gettingcloser and closer to Drew, the
raindrops started getting biggerand they started coming down
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faster.
Like there was a ton of rain.
And the roads were alreadystarting to flood.
Like I ran into those massivepuddles, you know, the the big
puddles that you go on the sideof your car, and it was just
like it goes all the way up,right?
I went through a couple ofthose, and as I was going to
Drew, Drew's house, like I couldsee water on the road.
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Um, like it was just coming downhard.
The sky opened up at this point,and it was just pouring down on
us.
And so that's what I'm I'msaying.
Like, sometimes that punch inthe face isn't necessarily a
real punch, like sometimes it'sa thunderstorm, or you know, it
could be a thunderstorm at fourin the morning when you're
looking uh at trying to run amarathon in the desert.
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That's kind of where today'sstory begins.
So when I got to Drew, um wetalked about it, and I was like,
I don't know if it makes sensefor us to go out to the desert
because where we were gonna run,there were washes everywhere,
and there were riverbeds.
And so we knew, being fromArizona, those were gonna be
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filled, and there were probablygoing to be rushing rivers, like
rushing waters, uh, especiallywhile storm's going on.
Like it probably wouldn't bethat smart.
Like, all right, I thought,well, we could probably run, um,
but I guarantee we'll probablymake it like five to six miles
and then decide, hey, this istoo money, there's too much
water, let's let's go back.
And after that, would we go andand try and finish it elsewhere?
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I don't know.
And that the problem was kind ofeverywhere.
Like, there were there was wateron almost every path and trail.
Um, it really felt like somebiblical storms, like flash
flood warnings.
And when I got to Drew, he uh hesent me this alert, like he
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showed me this alert that he hadon his phone from the weather
app, and it said, significantthreat to life or property.
And so we're like, okay, weprobably, yeah, that that's kind
of the icing on the cake.
Let's not go out and run in thedesert.
And yeah, here we were, just twoidiots with electrolytes and
water packs, thinking that uhwe'll outrun Mother Nature.
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That's not how it works.
And I want to pause for asecond.
Like, this is the decisionpoint, the fork in the road, if
you will.
Like, do we bag the race?
Do we do five miles in the sandand mud, call it cross-training,
and then go get some MegMcMuffins?
It sounds nice.
Or do we keep the plan and shiftto the battlefield?
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So we chose the plan.
We decided, hey, 26.2 miles,that's what we decided on, and
we're gonna get it done.
And the only place that we couldgo was the gym.
So we ran, we decided to run amarathon under treadmill.
Yes.
Like, who does that?
Honestly, just two psychopaths,I would say.
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Because I don't know, after 10miles on a treadmill, I will
start to lose it.
Like, if that's if that's whatI'm doing, um, for some reason
didn't go run outside, like itthat is a lot.
That takes a lot.
Um, and it's just it's boring.
Like, you're in the same spot,you're looking at the same
thing, and luckily, like, if Ididn't have Drew, I don't know
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if I would have been able tofinish that because doing that
alone would have been would havebeen painstakingly slow.
Um, and so that's what we did.
Like, we went to the gym, westarted in the uh the EO uh EO's
theater.
If you guys know what that is,is it's like a theater room with
cardio equipment in there.
Um kind of smells like burntrubber and sweat, if you're if
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you're in there long enough.
Uh they were playing Night ofthe Museum, uh, which like great
movie.
But it was pretty hot in there.
It was stale, like Drew and Icouldn't breathe, so we're like,
okay, screw this, let's just gointo the main area.
And we found these treadmills umright next to each other, and
basically stayed there for threehours and 45 minutes.
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It took a while, but there's afew things I want to discuss
here.
Like, there were no moreexcuses, it was time to get it
done.
And I had to make that shiftinitially to be like, hey,
listen, this is this is gonnasuck.
But the plan is there.
Like, I gotta stay stick to theplan if I want to be ready for
the race that's coming up in twoweeks.
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And that takes discipline, thattakes effort, that takes focus.
Even though it wasn't what Iexpected, even though it wasn't
the run that I wanted to, likeit was still great in many ways.
Like Drew and I, we talkedmostly for the whole run,
honestly.
I think until like mile 22, weprobably I think we put our
headphones on around that timebecause we're like, hey, we both
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gotta lock in, get this crapdone.
So, I mean, we it was great.
Like talking to him the wholetime.
We talked about you know ourgoals and our plans for running
in the future and how we feltabout the race that was coming
up.
I was sharing peach rings withhim and gushers, and he was
giving me some goos and all thatfun stuff.
So it was fun, like it was anice time just to be with him,
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and that's what's interestingabout that experience is it's
like I was suffering.
There's no other way around it.
Like, I was I was in pain onthat treadmill, and how cool is
it that I get to suffer withsomeone who I look up to as much
as Drew?
Like, he's made some crazychanges in his life, and he's
become a man who doesn't fearadversity, he doesn't run from
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it.
He's he's there to get thingsdone, and that showed yesterday
because it takes an insaneamount of mental fortitude to
endure something like that.
I know it sounds weird, but it'shard.
Like running a marathon on atreadmill was difficult.
Like around mile 15, things kindof uh slowed down a bit.
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Like Drew and I I knew we wereboth feeling some fatigue, our
focus started to slip.
Um, the gummy worms weren'tdoing what they were supposed to
be doing.
And uh then mile 18 came up, andI don't know what it is about
mile 18 with the marathon, butthat's when you got, you know,
not too much left.
You literally have eight milesafter that to finish.
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But that's where a lot of peoplehit walls.
I hit my first wall during myfirst marathon around that time,
so did Drew.
And luckily, like we were ableto push past it, but that doubt
did creep in, and it's somethingelse that you have to push past.
Like that voice in your headthat shows up, you have to learn
whether or not to listen tothose thoughts.
Like I wrote down some of thethoughts that I had.
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One of them was, are you sureyou need to finish?
Another is is this even smart?
The third was, wouldn't it beeasier to quit now?
Of course it would be.
Of course it would be easier toquit now.
Are you sure you need to finish?
Yes, I was sure.
And is it smart?
I don't know.
I don't know if running amarathon on a treadmill is
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smart, but um I was sticking tothe plan.
That was my goal, and I wantedto see it through.
And that's exactly what today'sepisode is about is when things
happen, when your plans don't gothe way that you expect them to.
Your feelings are not in chargein those moments.
The plan is in charge, and youshould try your best to stick to
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that plan, even when it'sdifficult, especially when it's
difficult, actually.
Like you need to focus on whatyou can do, what you can
control, and that'll give you alot of power.
And life will shift your routeall the time.
Like things will come up in yourwork, in your family, in your
relationships, in your personalpursuits, in a podcast, in
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creative endeavors, life willthrow curveballs your way.
And the key element here is tolearn how to adapt.
Because you shouldn't change thedestination, you just might have
to switch the way that you'regonna get there.
And I know everyone who'slistening knows this moment.
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You know, you start somethingbig, you're training for a race,
could be building a business,maybe even writing a book, and
you have this plan, you have aschedule that you want to set
yourself on, you have thesegoals, and then something
breaks.
Things do not go the way youwant them to.
You lose that momentum, theenergy fades, you hit some kind
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of resistance.
And then the question comes upthat everyone has to deal with,
and that's should I quit?
No, you should not.
You should not quit, but maybe,maybe, just maybe, you need to
pivot.
Maybe that's what your focusshould be on.
Maybe you do 26.2 miles in a gyminstead of a trail.
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And the mistake that I thinkmost people make is that they
look at change, they thinkchange equals failure.
But sometimes the adjustmentsthemselves are the success.
And we don't see that until weare you know through the trial,
through the the challenge.
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There's that famous quote fromSteve Jobs that you can't
connect the dots lookingforward, you can only connect
them looking backwards.
The point is, is you are incharge of where those dots go.
And each dot is a plot on yourlife to where you can look back
and say, okay, well, now thatI'm through it, what did I
learn?
What stood out to me?
What made sense?
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And that's the thing is youdidn't quit.
You just recalibrated.
That's discipline.
And that discipline ultimatelyleads to power, power, like
empowering yourself, empoweringother people, and getting you
closer to your goals.
At the end of the day, that'sthat's what we're trying to do.
We're trying to become the bestversions of ourselves that we
can.
And we can't expect that path togo perfectly every single time.
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In fact, you shouldn't expect itto go perfectly every single
time because if you do, you'regonna set yourself up for quite
a bit of disappointment, andyou're gonna think of yourself
as a failure.
And so don't associate makingchanges to plans or adapting any
way that you need to as somesort of failure.
Look at it as a strength.
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Like, did I ever think I wouldrun a marathon on a treadmill?
No, I've talked about it.
I I think you know, it'd bepretty funny to actually do it
in in previous thoughts I'vehad.
I'm like, that would just beinsane.
Like running a marathon on atreadmill.
I know people have done crazydistances on treadmills, but
again, those people arepsychopaths, and I probably fall
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into that bucket too because Iactually ran a marathon on a
treadmill.
It was it was brutal.
Um the hardest part about thatwhole thing was honestly mental.
Like, yes, I I think running, ofcourse, takes a lot of physical
uh exertion and endurance, butit also requires an insane
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amount of mental strength andmental endurance.
And go and try and run amarathon on a treadmill, see how
bored you get.
It's tough.
But again, like I'm proud of thework that I was able to do given
the circumstances I had.
That's what really helped me seethat I was still doing my best,
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I was still trying.
Just because it rained out, thetrails we were going to go on,
and just because, like, youknow, the weather app was like,
hey, you might die.
This is a severe threat toproperty and uh life, like
whatever.
Given those circumstances, Istill got the distance in.
And I'm not trying to brag here,I'm just trying to get a point
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across that change is notfailure.
Quitting is.
Quitting is failure.
But if you decide to change yourroute to get there, that's not
failure.
That's power, that's strength,and that's discipline.
Um there's a couple things thathave always helped me, like when
I set out for a goal, I I tryand think of you know four
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things, at least runningspecific goals.
But you can apply this towhatever um whatever thing you
might be going through rightnow.
So the first one is decide inadvance what matters.
You like you cannot decide inthe moment.
In the moment, you will choosecomfort almost always because
it's easier to choose that.
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Like it's a much harder flip inyour brain to be like, nope, no,
no, no, we're not doing that.
It's easy to give into comfort.
And make your rules so clearthat your brain understands them
perfectly.
So decide in advance whatmatters most to you.
Is it completing the distance?
Is it your speed?
Is it your if you're writing abook, like making sure all the
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character development is goingright?
Whatever the scenario is, askyourself what's important and
prioritize that the most.
Number two is know what yournon-negotiables are.
Ours was very simple.
It was 26.2 miles.
Rain, it did not matter.
We got bored, doesn't matter.
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We were tired, and that doesn'tmatter.
The goal was 26.2, and we werenot gonna stop until we finished
that, even if it took us all daylong.
Like, even if we had to go backand do, you know, a few sessions
each, like five sessions offive-mile runs.
Like, if if that's what weneeded to do to get it in, we
were gonna get it in because thegoal for us is to run Canyon
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Lands Ultra Marathon in twoweeks.
Allie's also part of that, butAllie actually got out on the
trails and crushed it last week,so she's a beast.
But understand what yournon-negotiables are and try to
make it simple.
Like for us, it was that 26.2,but for you it could be a
thousand words a day if you'rewriting a book.
Or if it's a business, do 10outreaches a day.
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It doesn't matter.
Like, figure out what isnon-negotiable for you and stick
to that.
Three is detach from perfection.
Like going back to the run.
Was it the scenic?
No, not at all.
It was very boring.
And was it glamorous?
Not even close.
There was no one cheering, therewas nothing like that.
But it was done, and that'swhat's important.
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And I think a lot of the timeswe, myself included, get so
focused on having things, tryingto have things perfect that we
lose sight of actually what'simportant to us.
Perfection, in many cases and inmany ways, is a deterrent to
success.
Because you, and I'm so guiltyof this, but you try like I will
go out and I'm like, I have todo this exactly the way, or it's
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a failure.
And I think perfection also,like, at least with my running,
I think it's of pace.
Like, I want to have a goodpace, and and all that has to
like sometimes my ego plays intothat and is like, okay, well,
you're not even keeping a goodpace, like you should just quit
the run anyway.
And that's not true.
Like, if your speed's slowerthan you wanted it to be, it
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doesn't matter.
Like, it's done.
Like, that's what was mostimportant at the end of
yesterday is Drew and I both gotthat run done.
It was not a perfect run, butit's what we could do at the
time.
And the lastly, I would say fuelyourself properly.
And of course, that's like arunning analogy.
Like, make sure that you'regetting carbs and all that
stuff.
But fueling yourself also meanslike find encouragement, find
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purpose, because that plays intothe fuel of you pursuing your
goals and trying to get after iteach and every day.
Drew helped me keep going inthose moments, and I believe I
helped him as well.
And it's because we were talkingto each other, we were having
great conversations, we weremaking the most of the situation
that we were in, even thoughboth of us hated it and it
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sucked.
But whatever.
Um so I I went ahead and I triedfinding some psychological
concepts.
Like I said in the beginning ofthis podcast, I want to make it
more relevant.
I want some actionable takeawaysto have for you guys, uh, each
and every episode.
And here's a couple that Ithought were very interesting,
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and I want to make a note ofthem.
So the first is cognitivedissonance.
What that means is when you sayyou're disciplined, but you skip
hard things, you feel that kindof tension.
You feel like a fraud in somesenses.
But following through, even inchaos, actually, especially in
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chaos, that keeps yourself-respect intact.
It's staying true to your word.
Like, do not lie to yourself.
That is such a hole that youwill dig yourself into.
You gotta follow through in yourword.
That will build so muchconfidence in yourself.
Like, take it from me, someonewho didn't have much confidence
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before I started running andstarted understanding that I
actually was capable of some ofthese things.
And from a podcast, like when Ifirst started, I was scared.
I didn't know what to say, Ididn't know how people respond
or react.
And I just kept pushing forward.
Um, and I I'm able to say, like,yeah, I'm a podcaster, I
actually am, because I I do, Ipost regularly, I have an
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audience, and that only comesfrom doing the work.
And I couldn't say I was apodcaster if I didn't have the
evidence to prove it.
And so, with you, same kind ofthing applies to your goals.
If you're trying to become, ifyou're writing a book, you got
to become an author by actuallybecoming an author, like doing
the work.
You can't say you're an authorand keep pushing the project
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off.
Do it now, do it today, and haveurgency.
Second thing I want to bring upis goal setting theory.
So have clear, difficult goalsthat leads to better
performance.
That goal of 26.2, it kept usmoving even when that motivation
died because we had somethingthat we were aiming to.
There's a bug in here.
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I think I got him.
No, I did not.
He's flying around.
Whatever, I'll get him later.
But that is important.
Like, if you have a your sightset on some kind of goal out
there, whether it's you want to,you know, get X amount of
followers on Instagram from yourbusiness, you want to reach X
amount of dollars and profit,whatever the goal is that you
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have for yourself, make it soclear that it's not at all able
to be taken in any differentway.
Like that is what the goal is.
That's how you should follow it,right?
Um, so be very clear with yourgoals.
Don't don't be um like make itclear.
That's all I'm gonna say onthat.
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And then effort justification,like the harder the task,
usually the more we value theoutcome.
And I would say just be carefulwith this though, because not
everything that is hard to getwill be worth it.
So you have to choose your goalswisely, but don't set goals that
are too easy for yourself.
You need to challenge yourselfon a regular basis.
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That's so important.
It's important to be able topush past that, it's important
to be able to fight through someof those thoughts that come up.
Like when Drew and I wererunning, I had so many negative
thoughts, and I didn't have tolisten to any of them, and I
didn't listen to any of thembecause they didn't help me.
Like they were all just babythoughts, like, oh man, this is
not fun.
You still have to be here.
It's only seven o'clock.
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You gotta wait, you gotta keeprunning for like another two
hours and 45 minutes.
You sure you want to do that?
This sucks.
Like, oh, you're gonna be sorefor the rest of the day.
You might be really tired.
You woke up at 3 45, like allthese stupid thoughts in my
head, right?
Like, I'm sure you know what I'mtalking about when you're going
through something difficult orwhen you're pushing yourself
hard in the gym, everything inyou will tell you to quit.
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And all you have to do is ignorethose thoughts and push past
them.
Ignore them.
Sometimes your brain gives youthese thoughts to protect itself
when actually they actually hurtyou because you're not doing
what you said you were gonna do.
And it's that cognitivedissonance.
All of a sudden you start nottrusting your word.
And who wants to be in thatsituation?
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Follow through with what you sayyou're going to do.
There's this quote from WinstonChurchill where he says, if
you're going through hell, keepgoing.
That's exactly what we'retalking about.
Don't stop in the middle of itjust because things start to get
tough.
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Where's that gonna get you?
It's not gonna get you very far,I'll tell you that.
But if you're going throughhell, keep going.
Like, who knows how long it'lllast with whatever thing that
you might be going through.
It could be a challenge you'vebeen dealing with for years, and
who am I to say, yeah, keepgoing through hell?
That sounds like a good plan.
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But maybe that's what you haveto do.
Sometimes the answer sucks, butmaybe that is what you have to
do.
You have to dig deep and keepgoing.
And I'm reading this book rightnow called Fearless.
It's about Adam Brown, who he'sa Navy SEAL, he was on SEAL Team
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6.
He was a Navy SEAL, and he had avery crazy past, like he was
addicted to drugs, and his lifefell apart, and then he decided
to clean himself up and join theNavy SEALs.
Of course, there's a lot more toit, and I would highly recommend
the book Fearless.
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But there's this quote thattheir family says quite a bit,
and it's do what you gotta do,and in the end, you'll be
stronger.
And that same principle appliesif you're going through hell.
Sometimes you just have to dowhat you gotta do, and in the
end, you will be stronger if youdecide that it's not going to
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determine who you are, it's notgoing to be a factor in your
maybe not a factor, but it's notgoing to determine who you are
as a person.
If anything, you'll know whatyou're capable of and be able to
push past it.
So let's let's wrap this wholething up.
Let's um bring it all together.
What was the whole point oftoday's topic?
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Well, I want you to create aplan before the emotion actually
shows up, and then follow itlike a compass and really stick
to it.
Make that plan crystal clear,have actionable steps at each
point where you're gonna be, andfollow through.
And have contingency plans.
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That's another one that's veryimportant.
Is yes, have a plan.
But if things go straight, ifthings go awry, you will have a
contingency.
I learned that from Jocko incollege, but basically, it's
your backup plan.
Have a backup plan because youhave no idea when things are
gonna decide to throw mud inyour face and say, hey, this is
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this is not gonna work.
You gotta figure out a differentway, you've got to adapt.
But if you have those plansalready set out, you have a plan
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, all the waythrough the alphabet.
It might be a little extensive,but you know what I'm saying.
You will be more able to followthrough on your goals.
You'll be able to see moreprogress, you'll be able to see
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more success.
And that's because you aremaking that progress, you're
adapting along the way, and whenthings do not go as expected,
you're still pushing and you'restill getting stronger because
of it.
That's very important.
Be accountable to yourself anduse others if you need to.
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Like Drew was a greataccountability partner for me
yesterday because if I didn'thave him, I don't know if I
would have been able to finishthat on a treadmill.
It was unbelievably difficult.
But share your goal publiclysomehow and don't go at it
alone.
Other people want to help.
Reach out to them, ask them forfeedback, ask them for
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assistance, but use them.
They are resources that you canutilize.
Um redefine your success ascompletion rather than
perfection.
Like I said, perfection is atrap that will get you
spiraling.
It will get you thinking aboutyour thoughts and it'll be get
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you thinking about your goals,whether or not you're achieving
them as perfect as you may wantthem to.
That is important to be able tonarrow in and figure out
yourself.
And finally, like, talk todiscomfort.
As weird as that sounds, youneed to literally say, hey, you
don't get to decide.
When those feelings of pain comeup, or the thoughts of whether
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or not this will work withwhatever you're doing.
Whenever those come up, you needto say, hey, go away.
Like it, as weird as it sounds,give your discomfort a name.
You can call it Kenny if youwant.
Kenny, hey, Kenny, get out ofhere.
You're not allowed to be heretoday.
We're getting this done.
Go away, Kenny.
Like, I don't know, do littlethings like that.
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But discomfort honestly is theenemy of progress.
Because no, no, no, no, no, no.
It is not the enemy of progress.
Comfort's the enemy of progress.
Discomfort is the enemy of yourown self-talk.
It'll push you, it'll reallytest you.
But you're always in charge.
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And that's something you need toremember.
Now, this episode, it was notabout running.
It's about what happens whenlife literally storms on your
plans and you're left standingin the rain asking, Do I still
go?
Do I still get it done?
The answer is yes, you do.
You adapt, you adjust, but youkeep the damn promise to
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yourself.
Stick to the plan, especiallywhen it sucks.
That's the title of the episode.
Because the point isn't to haveperfect conditions the whole
time.
You're not gonna have them.
The point is to become a kind ofperson who follows through, no
matter what.
And if you're listening togetting after it, I know that's
you.
You're someone who follows theplan, who sticks to it, who,
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when challenges arise, youfigure out what you need to do
to make them better.
That's the getting after itcommunity.
And then you help other peoplealong the way.
That's the goal too.
And last thing I'll say isdiscomfort, perfection, all
these things that that get inthe way of our own thinking,
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that get in the way of ourgoals.
They're all our own thoughts.
They're generated by ourselves.
And you have the power to focuson what you want to think.
About.
And so if you recognize thatyou're having a lot of thoughts,
like, I don't know if I can dothis, or this is so hard.
Like, ask yourself if you'refocusing on the right thing.
Are you thinking about theeffort?
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Or are you thinking about theoutcome?
There's an antidote toprocrastination.
And it's focusing your shiftinstead of the effort that you
have to do to get somethingdone, to rather the outcome.
If you focus on the outcome,that's how a lot of people don't
procrastinate.
They say, hey, I'm workingtowards this.
I know there's gonna be a lot ofwork that goes into it, but they
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try not to think about that.
They focus on the outcome.
So that's what I want you to dois think about the outcomes.
What's most important to you?
And follow through with that.
I appreciate you guys forlistening.
Um, it means a lot.
And I hope some of these thingshelp you.
Because, like I said, this isjust kind of a live journal of
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things that I wish I would havelearned when I was younger.
Um that have helped me in mylife today.
But I appreciate you guys forlistening.
If if you learned something,please share it with a friend.
Give us a rating on ApplePodcasts or Spotify, that always
helps.
And until I see you next time,as always, keep getting hungry,
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my friends.
Thank you.
Oh baby, do I have a story for you guys today?
I have a lot to say actually,and before we get into that, I
I've been thinking a lot aboutwhere I want to take the
direction of the podcast interms of the topics I cover and
the kind of guests I have on.
Uh I just want it to be morerelevant to the listener.
(00:23):
Like I want it to be actuallyimpactful impactful for the
people who are listening tothis.
And I want to make sure that Igive you guys actionable things
that you can take and implementinto your lives to make it a
little bit simpler and help youget after your goals a little,
not a little, a lot moresustainable, a lot more
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accountable, and get you therefor faster.
So, point of all that is if youhave ideas, if you have topics
you'd like me to cover to givemy own insight on or my own
thoughts about, I'd be happy totalk about it.
And I in fact, I would love tohear what you guys say and what
you'd like to hear.
(01:04):
So let me know.
Um, let me know in the commentsor wherever you guys uh just let
me know.
But I'm excited.
And for today's episode, I wantto talk about yesterday.
I had a very long training run Iwas supposed to be doing.
I in fact came down to Arizonauh so I could be with my wife
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over the weekend, so we weren'tdoing distance, it sucks.
And secondly, I wanted to runwith my brother Drew because
we're both training for an ultramarathon that's coming up in two
weeks, and this is our last bigeffort run, our la last long run
before we begin tapering andgetting ready for this actual
race.
And so our plan was simple.
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You know, we were going to go tothe desert, we were going to run
a full marathon in the desert.
Um, we were gonna bring, youknow, a cooler and and go back
to the car periodically.
We split it up so it was a12-mile loop.
Um, and we were just gonna dothat twice and then run a mile
and a half and back to to makeit the full marathon.
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And I was pumped, everything waslooking great.
Thursday, my brother and I wetalked about it, we were
excited, we talked about what weneeded, and then Friday rolls
around, and the weather forecastwas not promising.
It said lots of rain, and that'sthe problem with Arizona is it
doesn't rain.
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But when it does, it storms andit floods, and it's it's wild.
Like monsoon season in Arizonacan turn streets into rivers.
Like it's I've seen it manytimes, it's pretty cool
actually.
There's this quote I keep comingback to everyone has a plan
until they get punched in theface.
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Thank you, Mike Tyson.
That's what happened to us.
We kind of got punched in theface.
Our plan was simple.
We were going to wake up.
I was gonna go pick up Drew, wewere gonna get to the trail and
get it going.
But the plan went this way (03:04):
I woke up at 3 45 a.m.
It was cold, and got up, gotready, I was feeling good, and
then I got in the car andstarted driving, and it was
raining.
But then when I started gettingcloser and closer to Drew, the
raindrops started getting biggerand they started coming down
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faster.
Like there was a ton of rain.
And the roads were alreadystarting to flood.
Like I ran into those massivepuddles, you know, the the big
puddles that you go on the sideof your car, and it was just
like it goes all the way up,right?
I went through a couple ofthose, and as I was going to
Drew, Drew's house, like I couldsee water on the road.
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Um, like it was just coming downhard.
The sky opened up at this point,and it was just pouring down on
us.
And so that's what I'm I'msaying.
Like, sometimes that punch inthe face isn't necessarily a
real punch, like sometimes it'sa thunderstorm, or you know, it
could be a thunderstorm at fourin the morning when you're
looking uh at trying to run amarathon in the desert.
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That's kind of where today'sstory begins.
So when I got to Drew, um wetalked about it, and I was like,
I don't know if it makes sensefor us to go out to the desert
because where we were gonna run,there were washes everywhere,
and there were riverbeds.
And so we knew, being fromArizona, those were gonna be
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filled, and there were probablygoing to be rushing rivers, like
rushing waters, uh, especiallywhile storm's going on.
Like it probably wouldn't bethat smart.
Like, all right, I thought,well, we could probably run, um,
but I guarantee we'll probablymake it like five to six miles
and then decide, hey, this istoo money, there's too much
water, let's let's go back.
And after that, would we go andand try and finish it elsewhere?
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I don't know.
And that the problem was kind ofeverywhere.
Like, there were there was wateron almost every path and trail.
Um, it really felt like somebiblical storms, like flash
flood warnings.
And when I got to Drew, he uh hesent me this alert, like he
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showed me this alert that he hadon his phone from the weather
app, and it said, significantthreat to life or property.
And so we're like, okay, weprobably, yeah, that that's kind
of the icing on the cake.
Let's not go out and run in thedesert.
And yeah, here we were, just twoidiots with electrolytes and
water packs, thinking that uhwe'll outrun Mother Nature.
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That's not how it works.
And I want to pause for asecond.
Like, this is the decisionpoint, the fork in the road, if
you will.
Like, do we bag the race?
Do we do five miles in the sandand mud, call it cross-training,
and then go get some MegMcMuffins?
It sounds nice.
Or do we keep the plan and shiftto the battlefield?
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So we chose the plan.
We decided, hey, 26.2 miles,that's what we decided on, and
we're gonna get it done.
And the only place that we couldgo was the gym.
So we ran, we decided to run amarathon under treadmill.
Yes.
Like, who does that?
Honestly, just two psychopaths,I would say.
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Because I don't know, after 10miles on a treadmill, I will
start to lose it.
Like, if that's if that's whatI'm doing, um, for some reason
didn't go run outside, like itthat is a lot.
That takes a lot.
Um, and it's just it's boring.
Like, you're in the same spot,you're looking at the same
thing, and luckily, like, if Ididn't have Drew, I don't know
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if I would have been able tofinish that because doing that
alone would have been would havebeen painstakingly slow.
Um, and so that's what we did.
Like, we went to the gym, westarted in the uh the EO uh EO's
theater.
If you guys know what that is,is it's like a theater room with
cardio equipment in there.
Um kind of smells like burntrubber and sweat, if you're if
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you're in there long enough.
Uh they were playing Night ofthe Museum, uh, which like great
movie.
But it was pretty hot in there.
It was stale, like Drew and Icouldn't breathe, so we're like,
okay, screw this, let's just gointo the main area.
And we found these treadmills umright next to each other, and
basically stayed there for threehours and 45 minutes.
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It took a while, but there's afew things I want to discuss
here.
Like, there were no moreexcuses, it was time to get it
done.
And I had to make that shiftinitially to be like, hey,
listen, this is this is gonnasuck.
But the plan is there.
Like, I gotta stay stick to theplan if I want to be ready for
the race that's coming up in twoweeks.
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And that takes discipline, thattakes effort, that takes focus.
Even though it wasn't what Iexpected, even though it wasn't
the run that I wanted to, likeit was still great in many ways.
Like Drew and I, we talkedmostly for the whole run,
honestly.
I think until like mile 22, weprobably I think we put our
headphones on around that timebecause we're like, hey, we both
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gotta lock in, get this crapdone.
So, I mean, we it was great.
Like talking to him the wholetime.
We talked about you know ourgoals and our plans for running
in the future and how we feltabout the race that was coming
up.
I was sharing peach rings withhim and gushers, and he was
giving me some goos and all thatfun stuff.
So it was fun, like it was anice time just to be with him,
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and that's what's interestingabout that experience is it's
like I was suffering.
There's no other way around it.
Like, I was I was in pain onthat treadmill, and how cool is
it that I get to suffer withsomeone who I look up to as much
as Drew?
Like, he's made some crazychanges in his life, and he's
become a man who doesn't fearadversity, he doesn't run from
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it.
He's he's there to get thingsdone, and that showed yesterday
because it takes an insaneamount of mental fortitude to
endure something like that.
I know it sounds weird, but it'shard.
Like running a marathon on atreadmill was difficult.
Like around mile 15, things kindof uh slowed down a bit.
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Like Drew and I I knew we wereboth feeling some fatigue, our
focus started to slip.
Um, the gummy worms weren'tdoing what they were supposed to
be doing.
And uh then mile 18 came up, andI don't know what it is about
mile 18 with the marathon, butthat's when you got, you know,
not too much left.
You literally have eight milesafter that to finish.
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But that's where a lot of peoplehit walls.
I hit my first wall during myfirst marathon around that time,
so did Drew.
And luckily, like we were ableto push past it, but that doubt
did creep in, and it's somethingelse that you have to push past.
Like that voice in your headthat shows up, you have to learn
whether or not to listen tothose thoughts.
Like I wrote down some of thethoughts that I had.
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One of them was, are you sureyou need to finish?
Another is is this even smart?
The third was, wouldn't it beeasier to quit now?
Of course it would be.
Of course it would be easier toquit now.
Are you sure you need to finish?
Yes, I was sure.
And is it smart?
I don't know.
I don't know if running amarathon on a treadmill is
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smart, but um I was sticking tothe plan.
That was my goal, and I wantedto see it through.
And that's exactly what today'sepisode is about is when things
happen, when your plans don't gothe way that you expect them to.
Your feelings are not in chargein those moments.
The plan is in charge, and youshould try your best to stick to
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that plan, even when it'sdifficult, especially when it's
difficult, actually.
Like you need to focus on whatyou can do, what you can
control, and that'll give you alot of power.
And life will shift your routeall the time.
Like things will come up in yourwork, in your family, in your
relationships, in your personalpursuits, in a podcast, in
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creative endeavors, life willthrow curveballs your way.
And the key element here is tolearn how to adapt.
Because you shouldn't change thedestination, you just might have
to switch the way that you'regonna get there.
And I know everyone who'slistening knows this moment.
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You know, you start somethingbig, you're training for a race,
could be building a business,maybe even writing a book, and
you have this plan, you have aschedule that you want to set
yourself on, you have thesegoals, and then something
breaks.
Things do not go the way youwant them to.
You lose that momentum, theenergy fades, you hit some kind
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of resistance.
And then the question comes upthat everyone has to deal with,
and that's should I quit?
No, you should not.
You should not quit, but maybe,maybe, just maybe, you need to
pivot.
Maybe that's what your focusshould be on.
Maybe you do 26.2 miles in a gyminstead of a trail.
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And the mistake that I thinkmost people make is that they
look at change, they thinkchange equals failure.
But sometimes the adjustmentsthemselves are the success.
And we don't see that until weare you know through the trial,
through the the challenge.
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There's that famous quote fromSteve Jobs that you can't
connect the dots lookingforward, you can only connect
them looking backwards.
The point is, is you are incharge of where those dots go.
And each dot is a plot on yourlife to where you can look back
and say, okay, well, now thatI'm through it, what did I
learn?
What stood out to me?
What made sense?
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And that's the thing is youdidn't quit.
You just recalibrated.
That's discipline.
And that discipline ultimatelyleads to power, power, like
empowering yourself, empoweringother people, and getting you
closer to your goals.
At the end of the day, that'sthat's what we're trying to do.
We're trying to become the bestversions of ourselves that we
can.
And we can't expect that path togo perfectly every single time.
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In fact, you shouldn't expect itto go perfectly every single
time because if you do, you'regonna set yourself up for quite
a bit of disappointment, andyou're gonna think of yourself
as a failure.
And so don't associate makingchanges to plans or adapting any
way that you need to as somesort of failure.
Look at it as a strength.
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Like, did I ever think I wouldrun a marathon on a treadmill?
No, I've talked about it.
I I think you know, it'd bepretty funny to actually do it
in in previous thoughts I'vehad.
I'm like, that would just beinsane.
Like running a marathon on atreadmill.
I know people have done crazydistances on treadmills, but
again, those people arepsychopaths, and I probably fall
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into that bucket too because Iactually ran a marathon on a
treadmill.
It was it was brutal.
Um the hardest part about thatwhole thing was honestly mental.
Like, yes, I I think running, ofcourse, takes a lot of physical
uh exertion and endurance, butit also requires an insane
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amount of mental strength andmental endurance.
And go and try and run amarathon on a treadmill, see how
bored you get.
It's tough.
But again, like I'm proud of thework that I was able to do given
the circumstances I had.
That's what really helped me seethat I was still doing my best,
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I was still trying.
Just because it rained out, thetrails we were going to go on,
and just because, like, youknow, the weather app was like,
hey, you might die.
This is a severe threat toproperty and uh life, like
whatever.
Given those circumstances, Istill got the distance in.
And I'm not trying to brag here,I'm just trying to get a point
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across that change is notfailure.
Quitting is.
Quitting is failure.
But if you decide to change yourroute to get there, that's not
failure.
That's power, that's strength,and that's discipline.
Um there's a couple things thathave always helped me, like when
I set out for a goal, I I tryand think of you know four
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things, at least runningspecific goals.
But you can apply this towhatever um whatever thing you
might be going through rightnow.
So the first one is decide inadvance what matters.
You like you cannot decide inthe moment.
In the moment, you will choosecomfort almost always because
it's easier to choose that.
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Like it's a much harder flip inyour brain to be like, nope, no,
no, no, we're not doing that.
It's easy to give into comfort.
And make your rules so clearthat your brain understands them
perfectly.
So decide in advance whatmatters most to you.
Is it completing the distance?
Is it your speed?
Is it your if you're writing abook, like making sure all the
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character development is goingright?
Whatever the scenario is, askyourself what's important and
prioritize that the most.
Number two is know what yournon-negotiables are.
Ours was very simple.
It was 26.2 miles.
Rain, it did not matter.
We got bored, doesn't matter.
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We were tired, and that doesn'tmatter.
The goal was 26.2, and we werenot gonna stop until we finished
that, even if it took us all daylong.
Like, even if we had to go backand do, you know, a few sessions
each, like five sessions offive-mile runs.
Like, if if that's what weneeded to do to get it in, we
were gonna get it in because thegoal for us is to run Canyon
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Lands Ultra Marathon in twoweeks.
Allie's also part of that, butAllie actually got out on the
trails and crushed it last week,so she's a beast.
But understand what yournon-negotiables are and try to
make it simple.
Like for us, it was that 26.2,but for you it could be a
thousand words a day if you'rewriting a book.
Or if it's a business, do 10outreaches a day.
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It doesn't matter.
Like, figure out what isnon-negotiable for you and stick
to that.
Three is detach from perfection.
Like going back to the run.
Was it the scenic?
No, not at all.
It was very boring.
And was it glamorous?
Not even close.
There was no one cheering, therewas nothing like that.
But it was done, and that'swhat's important.
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And I think a lot of the timeswe, myself included, get so
focused on having things, tryingto have things perfect that we
lose sight of actually what'simportant to us.
Perfection, in many cases and inmany ways, is a deterrent to
success.
Because you, and I'm so guiltyof this, but you try like I will
go out and I'm like, I have todo this exactly the way, or it's
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a failure.
And I think perfection also,like, at least with my running,
I think it's of pace.
Like, I want to have a goodpace, and and all that has to
like sometimes my ego plays intothat and is like, okay, well,
you're not even keeping a goodpace, like you should just quit
the run anyway.
And that's not true.
Like, if your speed's slowerthan you wanted it to be, it
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doesn't matter.
Like, it's done.
Like, that's what was mostimportant at the end of
yesterday is Drew and I both gotthat run done.
It was not a perfect run, butit's what we could do at the
time.
And the lastly, I would say fuelyourself properly.
And of course, that's like arunning analogy.
Like, make sure that you'regetting carbs and all that
stuff.
But fueling yourself also meanslike find encouragement, find
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purpose, because that plays intothe fuel of you pursuing your
goals and trying to get after iteach and every day.
Drew helped me keep going inthose moments, and I believe I
helped him as well.
And it's because we were talkingto each other, we were having
great conversations, we weremaking the most of the situation
that we were in, even thoughboth of us hated it and it
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sucked.
But whatever.
Um so I I went ahead and I triedfinding some psychological
concepts.
Like I said in the beginning ofthis podcast, I want to make it
more relevant.
I want some actionable takeawaysto have for you guys, uh, each
and every episode.
And here's a couple that Ithought were very interesting,
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and I want to make a note ofthem.
So the first is cognitivedissonance.
What that means is when you sayyou're disciplined, but you skip
hard things, you feel that kindof tension.
You feel like a fraud in somesenses.
But following through, even inchaos, actually, especially in
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chaos, that keeps yourself-respect intact.
It's staying true to your word.
Like, do not lie to yourself.
That is such a hole that youwill dig yourself into.
You gotta follow through in yourword.
That will build so muchconfidence in yourself.
Like, take it from me, someonewho didn't have much confidence
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before I started running andstarted understanding that I
actually was capable of some ofthese things.
And from a podcast, like when Ifirst started, I was scared.
I didn't know what to say, Ididn't know how people respond
or react.
And I just kept pushing forward.
Um, and I I'm able to say, like,yeah, I'm a podcaster, I
actually am, because I I do, Ipost regularly, I have an
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audience, and that only comesfrom doing the work.
And I couldn't say I was apodcaster if I didn't have the
evidence to prove it.
And so, with you, same kind ofthing applies to your goals.
If you're trying to become, ifyou're writing a book, you got
to become an author by actuallybecoming an author, like doing
the work.
You can't say you're an authorand keep pushing the project
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off.
Do it now, do it today, and haveurgency.
Second thing I want to bring upis goal setting theory.
So have clear, difficult goalsthat leads to better
performance.
That goal of 26.2, it kept usmoving even when that motivation
died because we had somethingthat we were aiming to.
There's a bug in here.
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I think I got him.
No, I did not.
He's flying around.
Whatever, I'll get him later.
But that is important.
Like, if you have a your sightset on some kind of goal out
there, whether it's you want to,you know, get X amount of
followers on Instagram from yourbusiness, you want to reach X
amount of dollars and profit,whatever the goal is that you
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have for yourself, make it soclear that it's not at all able
to be taken in any differentway.
Like that is what the goal is.
That's how you should follow it,right?
Um, so be very clear with yourgoals.
Don't don't be um like make itclear.
That's all I'm gonna say onthat.
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And then effort justification,like the harder the task,
usually the more we value theoutcome.
And I would say just be carefulwith this though, because not
everything that is hard to getwill be worth it.
So you have to choose your goalswisely, but don't set goals that
are too easy for yourself.
You need to challenge yourselfon a regular basis.
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That's so important.
It's important to be able topush past that, it's important
to be able to fight through someof those thoughts that come up.
Like when Drew and I wererunning, I had so many negative
thoughts, and I didn't have tolisten to any of them, and I
didn't listen to any of thembecause they didn't help me.
Like they were all just babythoughts, like, oh man, this is
not fun.
You still have to be here.
It's only seven o'clock.
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You gotta wait, you gotta keeprunning for like another two
hours and 45 minutes.
You sure you want to do that?
This sucks.
Like, oh, you're gonna be sorefor the rest of the day.
You might be really tired.
You woke up at 3 45, like allthese stupid thoughts in my
head, right?
Like, I'm sure you know what I'mtalking about when you're going
through something difficult orwhen you're pushing yourself
hard in the gym, everything inyou will tell you to quit.
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And all you have to do is ignorethose thoughts and push past
them.
Ignore them.
Sometimes your brain gives youthese thoughts to protect itself
when actually they actually hurtyou because you're not doing
what you said you were gonna do.
And it's that cognitivedissonance.
All of a sudden you start nottrusting your word.
And who wants to be in thatsituation?
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Follow through with what you sayyou're going to do.
There's this quote from WinstonChurchill where he says, if
you're going through hell, keepgoing.
That's exactly what we'retalking about.
Don't stop in the middle of itjust because things start to get
tough.
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Where's that gonna get you?
It's not gonna get you very far,I'll tell you that.
But if you're going throughhell, keep going.
Like, who knows how long it'lllast with whatever thing that
you might be going through.
It could be a challenge you'vebeen dealing with for years, and
who am I to say, yeah, keepgoing through hell?
That sounds like a good plan.
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But maybe that's what you haveto do.
Sometimes the answer sucks, butmaybe that is what you have to
do.
You have to dig deep and keepgoing.
And I'm reading this book rightnow called Fearless.
It's about Adam Brown, who he'sa Navy SEAL, he was on SEAL Team
(24:27):
6.
He was a Navy SEAL, and he had avery crazy past, like he was
addicted to drugs, and his lifefell apart, and then he decided
to clean himself up and join theNavy SEALs.
Of course, there's a lot more toit, and I would highly recommend
the book Fearless.
(24:48):
But there's this quote thattheir family says quite a bit,
and it's do what you gotta do,and in the end, you'll be
stronger.
And that same principle appliesif you're going through hell.
Sometimes you just have to dowhat you gotta do, and in the
end, you will be stronger if youdecide that it's not going to
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determine who you are, it's notgoing to be a factor in your
maybe not a factor, but it's notgoing to determine who you are
as a person.
If anything, you'll know whatyou're capable of and be able to
push past it.
So let's let's wrap this wholething up.
Let's um bring it all together.
What was the whole point oftoday's topic?
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Well, I want you to create aplan before the emotion actually
shows up, and then follow itlike a compass and really stick
to it.
Make that plan crystal clear,have actionable steps at each
point where you're gonna be, andfollow through.
And have contingency plans.
(25:51):
That's another one that's veryimportant.
Is yes, have a plan.
But if things go straight, ifthings go awry, you will have a
contingency.
I learned that from Jocko incollege, but basically, it's
your backup plan.
Have a backup plan because youhave no idea when things are
gonna decide to throw mud inyour face and say, hey, this is
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this is not gonna work.
You gotta figure out a differentway, you've got to adapt.
But if you have those plansalready set out, you have a plan
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, all the waythrough the alphabet.
It might be a little extensive,but you know what I'm saying.
You will be more able to followthrough on your goals.
You'll be able to see moreprogress, you'll be able to see
(26:35):
more success.
And that's because you aremaking that progress, you're
adapting along the way, and whenthings do not go as expected,
you're still pushing and you'restill getting stronger because
of it.
That's very important.
Be accountable to yourself anduse others if you need to.
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Like Drew was a greataccountability partner for me
yesterday because if I didn'thave him, I don't know if I
would have been able to finishthat on a treadmill.
It was unbelievably difficult.
But share your goal publiclysomehow and don't go at it
alone.
Other people want to help.
Reach out to them, ask them forfeedback, ask them for
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assistance, but use them.
They are resources that you canutilize.
Um redefine your success ascompletion rather than
perfection.
Like I said, perfection is atrap that will get you
spiraling.
It will get you thinking aboutyour thoughts and it'll be get
(27:36):
you thinking about your goals,whether or not you're achieving
them as perfect as you may wantthem to.
That is important to be able tonarrow in and figure out
yourself.
And finally, like, talk todiscomfort.
As weird as that sounds, youneed to literally say, hey, you
don't get to decide.
When those feelings of pain comeup, or the thoughts of whether
(28:03):
or not this will work withwhatever you're doing.
Whenever those come up, you needto say, hey, go away.
Like it, as weird as it sounds,give your discomfort a name.
You can call it Kenny if youwant.
Kenny, hey, Kenny, get out ofhere.
You're not allowed to be heretoday.
We're getting this done.
Go away, Kenny.
Like, I don't know, do littlethings like that.
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But discomfort honestly is theenemy of progress.
Because no, no, no, no, no, no.
It is not the enemy of progress.
Comfort's the enemy of progress.
Discomfort is the enemy of yourown self-talk.
It'll push you, it'll reallytest you.
But you're always in charge.
(28:46):
And that's something you need toremember.
Now, this episode, it was notabout running.
It's about what happens whenlife literally storms on your
plans and you're left standingin the rain asking, Do I still
go?
Do I still get it done?
The answer is yes, you do.
You adapt, you adjust, but youkeep the damn promise to
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yourself.
Stick to the plan, especiallywhen it sucks.
That's the title of the episode.
Because the point isn't to haveperfect conditions the whole
time.
You're not gonna have them.
The point is to become a kind ofperson who follows through, no
matter what.
And if you're listening togetting after it, I know that's
you.
You're someone who follows theplan, who sticks to it, who,
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when challenges arise, youfigure out what you need to do
to make them better.
That's the getting after itcommunity.
And then you help other peoplealong the way.
That's the goal too.
And last thing I'll say isdiscomfort, perfection, all
these things that that get inthe way of our own thinking,
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that get in the way of ourgoals.
They're all our own thoughts.
They're generated by ourselves.
And you have the power to focuson what you want to think.
About.
And so if you recognize thatyou're having a lot of thoughts,
like, I don't know if I can dothis, or this is so hard.
Like, ask yourself if you'refocusing on the right thing.
Are you thinking about theeffort?
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Or are you thinking about theoutcome?
There's an antidote toprocrastination.
And it's focusing your shiftinstead of the effort that you
have to do to get somethingdone, to rather the outcome.
If you focus on the outcome,that's how a lot of people don't
procrastinate.
They say, hey, I'm workingtowards this.
I know there's gonna be a lot ofwork that goes into it, but they
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try not to think about that.
They focus on the outcome.
So that's what I want you to dois think about the outcomes.
What's most important to you?
And follow through with that.
I appreciate you guys forlistening.
Um, it means a lot.
And I hope some of these thingshelp you.
Because, like I said, this isjust kind of a live journal of
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things that I wish I would havelearned when I was younger.
Um that have helped me in mylife today.
But I appreciate you guys forlistening.
If if you learned something,please share it with a friend.
Give us a rating on ApplePodcasts or Spotify, that always
helps.
And until I see you next time,as always, keep getting hungry,
(31:12):
my friends.
Thank you.
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