Getting Past the Premium

Let’s face it… tech is taking over! But sometimes, nothing beats the power of a face-to-face meeting.

In this throwback episode, originally aired on February 8, 2023, we sit down with Michael Bodack to explore how personal connection can be the ultimate sales differentiator.

Michael breaks down his proven approach to client relationships and reveals strategies to stay competitive in a digital-first world.

How do you earn the right for a prospect's time? How do you set yourself apart from the agency down the street? And how are you being creative with your follow-up? David Sliman, CEO of Sales Proformance Consulting, has led sales teams across multiple industries, including insurance and risk management. He joins us today to discuss his four principles of selling – and it starts with speaking the language of your ideal client.

"I hate the word broker." Casey Schrader is more a fan of the word advisor. As Regional Sales Manager and Risk Advisor at Oswald Companies, he practices what he preaches. Brokering is about selling a product. Advice is about expanding how you think and how you serve your clients. Casey also dives into marketing and content creation, creating "warm calls" as opposed to cold calls, and driving value with your clie...

We all want the best talent. Recruiting can be pain, but even beyond finding good people, developing them can be equally difficult. Brett Young, President & CEO at Erb and Young, is taking a unique approach to training and development: Erb and Young University. From weekly trainings to onboarding to its "Masterclass" series, finding a way to focus on helping your team learn and improve is vital to scalable success. Br...

Tim Leman, CEO at Gibson, joins the show today to talk through one of the biggest catalysts of growth at your insurance practice: Intentionality. How do you build your business to grow in the areas you most want to grow, in the locations you most want to hit, and with the beliefs you most want to instill in your team? From the corporate level all the way down to the individual producers, learn how to get everyone on the same page a...

When you're building a book of business, you control your own destiny. If you hit a plateau, it's easy to blame the product or to blame the market, but often times, the problem is you. Today, Angus Nelson, Founder and Executive Coach at Evolve Leadership, joins the show to talk about creating lifetime value and taking control of your outcomes. He discusses innovation, mindset, seeking intentional coaching and more.

Micah Salas, Senior Vice President for Christensen Group Insurance, started inside of a large captive agency and moved into the independent world. He joins the show today to discuss the "business plan" you learn coming up in trenches vs. what independent agencies face. He dives into building your client profile and niche, finding the volume of prospects you need to succeed, avoiding paralysis by analysis, and creating qua...

There is a difference between marketing and sales. And the sooner you create that distinction in your firm, the more scalable you'll become, according to Brett Young, CEO of Erb and Young. Brett joins us this week to talk about how his agency has built a brand in their market, grown within their niche and scaled with a repeatable process.

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Julie Richt, President and Founder at Lucid Insurance, has seen about every side of the insurance industry in her career. Her path led her to starting Lucid, an MGA focused solely on property insurance. Learn why she's taken such a unique approach to her company, how the industry is evolving, how specialized offerings like hers have become more valuable, and what to expect from the current property market.

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Ryan Brott, Chief Growth Officer at Ellerbrock-Norris, joins Elliot this week to talk about the value an agency can bring to a clients. Your commission percentages aren’t going to change, so how can you change your service model to add value and add revenue? LAUNCH is a tool Ryan uses to expand his offering beyond insurance and encompass more risk management “impact areas.” Learn how you can do the same within your model.

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Shawn Fitzgerald of Sound Harbor Insurance is in a similar place to the majority of Getting Past the Premium listeners. He's four years into owning his own insurance agency. He faces growing pains. He's grown his team. And he's overcome a few obstacles. Shawn and Elliot talk through the most important actions you can take as a business owner – from finding a mentor, investing in yourself, focusing on goal-setting, an...

From brand awareness to sales activities to written revenue, what you measure and how you measure it will change. But the reason behind sales analytics doesn't change: You want to know how much it costs to bring in new clients, and what revenue those new clients will generate.

Ryan Brott, Chief Growth Officer at Ellerbrock-Norris, joins the show this week to break down how Ellerbrock-Norris is tracking its sales goal...

Acquisitions have become a major part of growth in our industry, but without strong organic growth, agencies aren't able to thrive. Harrison Brooks, Partner at Reagan Consulting, joins us today to discuss organic growth. We dive into where you should be investing your dollars in marketing and sales, how to compete with the national players, where there are opportunities and more.

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Growing an insurance agency can be done hundreds of different ways. The tools you use to enable your sales team can expedite that growth – if it's the right tool, if it's adopted correctly, and if it's serving a true purpose. Caleb Cramer joins GPP today to talk through sales enablement. It's not about which tools you use – it's about solving a problem or creating efficiency with the tool, no matter which t...

What's your story as an agency? In the insurance and risk advisory world, many stories are the same – come to us for a free quote. That's not a story. Andy Bassett, CEO of Ellerbrock-Norris, joins the show to talk about his firm's story, and how their "Protect Your Purpose" tagline has resonated since they've rolled it out over a year ago. Whether it's appealing to clients or recruiting for you te...

Insurance sales for years was based on carrier availability and exclusivity. Today, it's much more nuanced – and providing value is the path to winning new business. Which brings us to the BOR – or Broker of Record. Nick Aube, Founder at Producer Systems, joins the show to discuss developing a BOR sales strategy – or a sales strategy based on educating clients, providing value to those clients, and getting out of the quote-and...

How do you set a new producer or insurance advisor up for success? From selecting a training program, developing internal processes to align the team, and understanding your target market, bringing on new agents or advisors can be difficult. It's a competitive market – and every independent agency is different. Colby Allen, a financial consultant and analyst, helps independent insurance agency owners understand the value of th...

What's the difference between running a law firm and an insurance agency? No, that's not the start of a joke – it's a mindset that you should be using as a risk advisor. When someone is hiring an attorney, they aren't quoting out 10 different ones, they are finding one that they trust.

Brandon Schuh, head of specialty insurance practice at Christensen Group, joins the show to discuss how you deliver ser...

His LinkedIn profile reads "I keep peoples fingers on their hands."

When it comes to niching down, Cole Williams has carved his out expertly. As a Risk Advisor with Insurance Associates, Inc., Cole focuses his agency on meat and food processors in Nebraska. He understands how to build a target market, how to become an expert in that niche, and how to grow while operating in that niche.

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