568: What does Carbon even mean? With Polly and Otto from True

Sami goes back to school as he asks Otto Terrell and Polly Gupta, head of sustainability and sustainability strategist at True (https://www.true.tech/), the key questions around the environmental buzz words of 2025. Sami finds out the differences between carbon neutral and net zero, why the big corporations have been so slow to adopt a sustainable model, and how true is working with companies to forge a clear path for everyone to net zero. — Interested in working with true to reduce your business’ energy costs and work towards net zero? Get in touch with the team (https://www.true.tech/), or check out their LinkedIn Page (https://www.linkedin.com/company/true-net-zero/) Learn more about the impact your ChatGPT conversations have on the environment (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce85wx9jjndo) by reading the article Sami mentions in this episode. If you’re interested in contributing to the work Otto (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ottoterrell) and Polly (https://www.linkedin.com/in/pollyxenigupta/) do with true, they can also be found over on LinkedIn Your host for this episode has been Sami Birnbaum. Sami can be found through his website (https://samibirnbaum.com) or via LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samibirnbaum/). If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page (https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot), or check out our website (https://podcast.thoughtbot.com). Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: [e-mail] This has been a thoughtbot (https://thoughtbot.com/) podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/) - Mastodon (https://thoughtbot.social/@thoughtbot) - Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/thoughtbot.com) © 2025 thoughtbot, inc.