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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A couple of things here, So, like normal, made some
changes relative to the roster, about forty percent of the
roster at this point is different. So we've added the
free agents, I mean, added some other positions. Look forward
to getting those guys in the building in three weeks
April twenty first. Haven't even had meetings with any of them,
haven't had a team meeting, haven't had position meetings. So
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relative to you know, the communication with the players, the
ones we brought in, it's been short. So look forward
to working them on the twenty first. There's no depth
charts or anything like that. And then you know, play calling.
We'll make that decision as we go in the preseason
training camp. What else pro days usually had on a
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ten pro days? Do private workouts? Have done a number
of them and we'll get into the details on that.
So what anything else you got?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He signed a veteran quarterback, Russell Wilson who's been in
the e leite for thirteen years.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
What have you thought about him during out his career?
Do you have any kind of a relationship with him
before this?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And what about him, you know, potentially being a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Now, Yeah, haven't had a relationship with him. I have
seen him from AFAR obviously since he started. I think
I was at Kansas City when he played one of
his first preseason games.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Back in twelve.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
He's been a very productive player throughout his career. Obviously
at Seattle, very very productive, and then it has been on
a few different teams here in the last few years.
Had a good meeting when he came in, watched a
lot of tape on him, and look forward to working
with him. He's a he's been a good player, he's
got good leadership traits to him, smart, he's.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Played a lot of football, and look forward to working
with him.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And I would say Jamis as well. We're talking about
a guy who was picked first overall, and so we
had the two guys to the quarterback room and look
forward to working with both of them. What stood out
on the tape Rouss that made you want to recommend
boy makes good decisions with the football.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's athletic.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He's a little bit older, so maybe not as at
thirteen and fourteen, but certainly he has ability to use
his leg exten plays, great explosive plays, phenomenal deep ball thrower,
has created a bunch of explosive plays and scoring points
for his team and does a good job of making
good decisions with the football.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You know, in the games that he's played. In terms
of us, how much did you delve back?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I mean, we all know what he did in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
How much did you look back at that tough year
at dead for twenty two and then you know he
was only with Peyton for one year, then.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
He got benched and all that stuff. How much did
you evaluate what happened?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And then yeah, lots every play I've had since twenty twelve,
he's got over seventy five hundred best plays. You know,
just wanted to see some of the things that he
did well see if you know, as we get going here,
we got to start putting together what we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Everybody's got a lot of plays, but we want to
look at.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
These players, specifically the quarterbacks, and you know, make good
decisions with the things that we install. So West never
tape a Steeler tape. What's all the Seahawks tape?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, we did a lot of work on it. James.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
How challenging is it for the entire unit when you
feel over except for Tommy obviously, we feel over an
entire position like quarterback.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What kind of pressure urgency doesn't put on not just
a coaching staff, but every other position. Well, look, they
have to.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Kind of goes through them quarterbacks and even just thinks
little things like cadences. You know, Russell's been doing this
long time. James says, we got to get into a room.
We got to really start with the basics of how
we do things in terms of our installation. And then again,
I've watched a fair amount of tape on both of
these players and put together you know, whether it's past
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concept that they're familiar with, or change a little bit
of how we do things. Could be route adjustments, it
could be technique of a route, you know, our mic
identification points, our communication at the line of scrimmage. There's
a lot that goes into playing quarterback, as you know.
And look forward again, started with those guys.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Uh, their deals aren't a long term jamis is two
years together for you guys for one years.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You're in year four.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Now, how important is it for you to addie on
the quarterbacks at the meal?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, I think and as many good players as we
can add, well, we'll take so right now we're we
have the three guys in the quarterback room. We'll see
what happens here over the next call it month if
you will. And you know whover's ever's in that room.
We'll do the best job we can to coach them up.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What do you what do you think about the draft
back as a whole? I guess this year draft up
and you've done a lot of work. Yeah, you know,
I'll keep that in house right now. We've got we've
got three weeks here to keep rinding on them.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They're good, they're good players, they're good people. But you
know we've done it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
We've done extensive work on them, a bunch.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Of them imagined seeing ross otis you've had a two
young defensive guys bet the college.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, obviously something that we can just what you've seen.
What can they reading just from God?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, Deebo's you know, he's a lengthy corner of he
does a good job of getting his hands on the
balls and create turnovers. You know, he's played you know,
kind of both systems, but he's he's i'd say he's
a good man corner too.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So you know, and and Holland I just.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Think the world up when he was coming out instinctive
player crafty vetrican to play, you know, different spots in
the back end for you.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Uh, good leader.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Both those guys have been getting to talk to them
when they came into the building.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Good, good young guys.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
And the Ford the work you mentioned right, you mentioned
Russell's deep growing Yeah, and how Kennethy is there.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
What can that do for the offensive outs and what
you can now expect the league quarterbacking.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, I mean I just want to get him into
the building. Obviously he's he's he's been a productive player.
I'm talking about Russell and doing that part of the game.
And I'd say, you know, we have some some fast
guys on the perimeter, and we have some you know,
a big young tight end.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
He get down the scene. You know where that goes
from here.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Connor, we we got to get together and you know,
put together something that's good for everybody.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But you know, look forward to see him the leak
in the.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Second year and I'm glad we got slave back and
you know, keep working with these other guys.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Brian, it was uh, you know, just the typically ice
prener for Josh.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, you were there, and he's developing so much.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, and he on the m What is it like
for you watching someone they care about so deeply kind
of get that recognition.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, you know, just a tremendous person first and foremost
and an outstanding football player. I couldn't be happier for
him and his family and and the steps that he's
taken to grow as a as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's been very impressive. He's you know, he's he's all
day tough.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
He's he's an exceptional player in terms of his arms,
his leg and uh, he's done a great job for
that organization.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Uh, and I'm very happy for.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
So you uh dapping up seor s Andrews and obviously
have a relationship there.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
What have you got to know about him so far
as a Breton?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, again, I respect, I respect the question just relative
to the guys in the draft and the draft picks
and the evaluation process of these guys.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Uh, you know, keep all that stuff in house right now,
you're earlier with the r Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know, a fair amount of people in this business.
Got a tremendous amount of respect for him. Happy for
him that he just got paid. That was that was
a good deal for him. But again, look just like
last year or the last.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Time we did it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know, there's a there's an extensive process that we
go through and talking with a variety of people and
meeting with these players and doing a variety of things,
and you.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Know, we're still in the middle of that. Joe brought
up this process heres like good quarterback cross fit. It
kind of originated down.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And when we were in Miami, and yeah, we did
an eleven with a variety of guys with Genesis. Didn't
think we've y I don't think it's anything, you know,
I think a lot of guys have evaluate.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You know, it's not the right way or the wrong way.
We just we do a variety of different things with
these players.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I don't put them in a lot of different situations,
no different than I'm sure a lot of teams do.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
But you just got to try to.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Check off the boxes which you think you ask these
guys to do any touch points and people they talk to,
but most importantly the person that you're you're talking with,
and the zooms and then the private meetings and then
the thirty visits and all those type of things play
into it. And then most importantly, you know, you have
to evaluate the film, but it's all got to you know,
for the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, we just did that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Somebody asked about Josh. That was a long process there
for that year, you know, so we're we're still in
the mixt of doing this.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I'd love to do That's there's a lot of there's
a lot of work, there's a lot of time spent
on that.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
A lot of the coaches have been gone, you know,
the last couple of weeks, not just with the quarterbacks,
but I would say with a lot of the players,
and we're you know, we've got have a local pro
day here coming up on Thursday, So.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
A lot of work to be done.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
So what did you work from the Josh process that
change or put it to your constants and evaluating.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, I'd say it's pretty similar, Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Of the touch points that we try to hit in
the evaluation that we try to do not just on
the field evaluation, but again O days, thirty busits, dinners, zooms,
phone calls, there's a you know, it's just it's a
time consuming process and you do the best job you
can to try to find one that fits perfect for you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
With the quarterback specifically, after all of this evaluation filled
and with this the that people with a quarterback specifically
is at some point, is there a vibe or a
sense that you get that I want to work with
the sky or I'm not so sure at that position.
It's something that you can't really define, but it's there.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I got a vibe about this guy. Yeah, I'd say, right.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I mean, you're doing work all the way up until
to the draft, and you're trying to cross every t
and dot every eye, and you know, there's so much information.
You got to wee through some of the stuff that
you listen to or you hear, and you got to
you know, you got to trust your meetings with the players,
and you got to trust the time that you were
on the board with them, and you got to trust
how they were. You got to trust with them at
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East West game or the time you got to meet
him or you know what the athletic trainer had to
say or what a graduate assistant at to say. You know,
the face of a franchise is a quarterback, and it's
not an easy position to evaluate. It's not an easy
position to coach, it's not an easy position to play.
So you do the best job you can to try
to find the right one for your team.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You have been faith one up since the time.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Maybe it's got it back up Jordan's place and gone's
that the season the top priority can find it the future, like,
you don't feel any pressure to kind of have to
take that swing this year.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna go through, you know, the
evaluation of all the guys that you know and have
been on my list to look at and talk to.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
And again everything's got to fall on the line to
relative to draft.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Picks where you are picking, and if somebody else gets
picked ahead of time, and you know everybody out there
that oh my gosh, Michael Pennis got taken here.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You don't know when they're gonna get taken. It's you know,
there's an affinity you have for a player.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If you feel like that player is the right player
and you know they're sitting there at the whatever pick
it is you have, you know, is it a reach
is it not a reach?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Like I'm not going to get into that. It's it's
how you feel about the player, and you know, does
that player match where you want to take them? I'm
walking you read to this. We keep pushing it off
you know, you know what say, ye know, I understand
the question.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Look, I'm focused on on this draft with the players
that are in this draft, and you know, see if
you see if we're.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Taking you talked about quarterback being tough to coach.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
There's big personalities that that rule now and if you
draft one, maybe even a big one at it as well.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Any think John about Russell and Jamis or Debido, all
of them.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, and potentially if you draft one. How do you
think Kay approaches that?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, I think they have a relationship. The two guys
that we have just signed have a relationship. Again, they've
played a lot of football. I think it's important to
let the players be the players and show their personalities.
And they certainly, you know, they certainly have unique different
personalities if I will. But the time that I've gotten
to spend with them, I've really enjoyed meeting both.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Of these guys.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And you know, start in the beginning stages of developing relationship.
Do you like that? Do you like having the personalities
and your quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I mean I want them to be themselves. So
you know, Jamis has his personality. It's well documented on
some of the things that you see, and Russ has
his and and Tommy, so you know, I just I
want him to help him play as good as they
can play to help.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Us win is really what I'm focused on.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Joe said yesterday that Russell fake versus res ring.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
How do you play instructure off without being you know,
open competition or Ruffington darter.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Like I said when I started, we're gonna we're gonna
get here. We're gonna get out on.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
April twenty first, when we start on you know whatever
it is set phase two. When we're doing stuff, Russell
be with the ones and Jamis be with the deuce.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Dave. A big talking point in this draft is about
Travis Hunter, a two player. Yeah, I'm not anticipating.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You spending ten minutes talking about being like this.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Looking about travisoner player.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You have a player on your staff now, Troy Brown,
and your coach who did it at this level.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, curious in your relationship with him and is it
possible to do that? Yeah. Well, one, it's good to
have Troy on board with us.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I would say when I started out coaching, you know,
as a position coach, as a receiver coach, I was
very young.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I was inexperienced.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I was very young, and unfortunately he was in the
receiver room along with the guy by the name of
David Patton got Rest of Soul, two veteran receivers that
really helped Meek Rowe as a young coach.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I learned more from them than a lot of people.
And it's good to have him here.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And he's been a very productive player for the fifteen
years he's played, but he's also played dB. One year,
I think he was second on a team in interceptions,
So again, he was maybe at a different stage where
he was more of a veteran.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
He knew the offense inside and out. Put him over there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
He's playing nickel, you know, has a few interceptions the
year that he played. But he was smart, he was tough,
he loved the game of football, he was competitive, and
he had great traits to be able to do that.
Again when he was playing it later in his career,
he didn't need to meet.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
With receivers as much. He's here to hear the offense
inside and out. So it's probably a little bit of
a different dynamic than probably who you're alluded to.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
How do you evaluate is the a wide receiver?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, same but appreciate the question.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think he's a good player both both ways, so
you evaluate him a huge value. Well, it takes a
long time to evaluate him because there's a lot of tape.
It's really remarkable what he has done and the ability
to perform at that level not really getting arrest. So
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he's been a fun he's been a fun player to
evaluate and to meet and talk with. You know, he's
a heck of a player.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
One way preference. Well, i'd say we don't have him
right now, so you've got a player like that.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, I'm not going to go want Yeah, I understand
the question, Charlotte, I understand the question away on both
at both spots.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Brand is it important to you at that number three
pick to get a player will be on the field
for you?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
In other words, you can get a quarterback, but he
can be development sure, Sure, a guy like.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Punter who can help you on those side.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, that's a good question. I would say that you
know the player that you want to take when you're
selecting that high is does he have to help you
right away? I think you just have to have a.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Great plan for that player, and you think that that
player is really going to help your organization. If that's
being a backup for a little while, then that's being
a backup for a little while. If you think that
that's where you want to take that player. If it's
to come in and start and you know, play a
bunch of plays, great too. I think you have to
have good conversations about the topic that you just talked about,
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and you know, as an organization of how you want
to approach that deal.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I think that you know, I know the GMS
with Joe, everything's on the table and it's that's what
it is. Where you where you guys are you know,
trying to start past out. Yeah, we'll get increasingly important
for that got to be an immediate contributor. I wouldn't
say necessarily ran Joe.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Joe gets talking about it, get him and yields like
we missed it actually moving around.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, what what's kind of the bank for him?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah? Again, when these guys get.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Back, we don't ad Again, I appreciate the question to
sit here and I'm going to talk to all the
players when they get back out of twenty First Heaven's
open to do whatever he can do to help the
team out. But what we'll have individual meetings. We'll have
the position coaches sit down with them and I want
to get you know, in front of them first and
have conversations with different guys on the roster of about
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a number of things. Things we can get better at,
things I can get better at. And that'll take place
in a few weeks here.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
But if we look at where you're at, you have
Andrew Thomas, you have a woman of our ships. Joe
made a point, You've made a point of showing up,
swing back. It doesn't feel like fifraving attack on seem
like that's why guard more opportunity.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I'd say there's there's probably a number of opportunity
he's and you know him and I will sit down
and we'll talk when he gets back and came him
And with a number of other players.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
We've seen a couple of guys gets technical moment go
for tackling, party have significant as. When you're looking at
the players that have the ability to make that transition,
what still create.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
For you, Well, look, tackle, there is a little bit
more space guard, it's tightened down. Things happen a lot
quicker inside. I would say almost mentally too. With the
center and the guard position, and different things. It's it's
you're a little bit more condensed. You got a guy
on either side of you. You know, if look, we'll
sit down and we'll talk to Evan and I'm going
to have an opportunity, you know, to help in any
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way you can and you know, look forward to work
with us there.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You know, will you challenge JMS with say, like great
Van wrote at center and click with the starting job
or is that a job likeel guy?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, No, I've been I've been pleased with John Michael
how he's approached being a professional and I think he's
eighth strides each year and look forward to him being
our center.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Thought you were changes wide and fire the DV coacher.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah again, I got a lot of It's it's tough
decisions to make when you're when you're at in this position.
You know, brought in a junior guys, not just in
the secondary, but a number of guys you know that
I sat down and interviewed and you know, happy they're here.
I wish all the guys that we had the best
of luck.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
But you know, I think Markwana has done a nice
job for us since he's been there. Jeff Burris is
you know, a former first round pick and I think
can help in certain.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Areas with some of the players that Tate Banks who
has been a first round pick and give experience.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
So brought Chad Holland, who has been with me for
four years. Was an exceptional football coach. It's good to
have him back. Troy Brown, as we mentioned, Model Betts
from from Iowa. It seems like I got a bunch
of Iowa guys on the staff. Steve Farrens Graham Oregon.
So I look forward to working with all those guys.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Out of them, Yeah, Joel's a great friend of mine.
He's exceptional coach.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know, he's been down in New Orleans for a
long time before he got up to New York. His
family was accustomed to you know, New Lawrens.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
And being down there, and again got a lot of
respect for him as you know, more outside forget about
the coach.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
He's an exceptional coach, but outside to coach his family
and might have given him that opportunity to do that.
Who do you view as the leaders of your team
in the locker room players?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well we can we got again forty percent guys that
are that are new here and every team takes on
a new identity each year. So I'll be interested to see,
you know, how that develops through the offseason program and
the practices and kind of who steps up in those roles.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
When did you come away thinking when you went back
and like evaluated that season, Oh, how much time we got?
Is there anything that kind of stood at for you?
Maybe you know, like, well, we went, we won three games,
so it was here like this, this is an area
where I think we need to keep see if we
leave g I'd say every area. I mean, if you
winny three games, there's a lot of things. Close games, there's.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
A lot of reasons and you know nine and one
score games that you know you didn't get the job done.
I mean that's my my job to try to help
figure that out and lead that. It makes you know,
the different changes we need to.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Make again, maybe we would notice that. No, I'd say
there's a.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Lot when you went three games, there's there's a lot
that's scaring. So we'll put a lot of work into.
You know, again, getting the players back every year is different.
I've said that before. When you have again forty of
your team is different. That's it's not like it used
to be a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
So now we got a lot of work to do,
and so we plan on doing.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
There's a decent chance that you could have ten of
eleven starters back starting on offense with that one playing
exception of a quarterback. Is that a plan that you like?
That continuity that just that way and how much can
that one change a quarterback due to an offense that
wasn't good year?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But I would I would just say, look, we haven't
even had we haven't even had a practice yet. So
to get down to starting and ten and this, I
mean there's four months or five months, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
We had a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Uh in the weight room, quickness, speed, installation of plays,
adjustments you make in schemes.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That'll all come, it all sort itself out. Not going
to be good. I think all the guys that have.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Had whether they call it surgeries or injuries or are
making improvements.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You know, they'll be all participating in some form of fashion,
maybe not fully, but they're all making progress. There's anything
it feels different, anything different coming in you're in your
four now.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
And you are coming you get you you are coming
off the free for if you is it different for
you if you vibe the approach any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
What you do, no, Jordan, what you do is you
you always try to make improvements on the things you
need to make improvements on where it's yourself, whether it's offense, defense, kicking, game,
put everything you got into it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You spend a lot of time on evaluations of players.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And schemes, of systems, of how you're scheduling all those
type of things.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It's the same. You know, each year you meet with
the experts in each of their position. You know, whether
it's Ronnie Barns and advice or Aaron Wellman.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You know, you go through all that and you do
the best job you can of trying to put together
something to start preparing for the twenty five seasons.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Now these guys have.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Been on their own working out it'll be good to
get them into building on the twenty first. That's the
week of the draft as well, and then you know
they'll have a couple of weeks into phase one and
we'll get on the field in phase two and start
doing that and you know, kind of evaluate what we got,
but certainly make adjustments that you need to make that
you think you need to make to be better people.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Believe you guys made personnel visions are going.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Well. I think the run defense is a team a
team stat.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
We gotta do a better job offensively too, so that
people can't just keep turning around and have the football
over and score points offensively. To try to make them
more of a two dimensional team if you will, have
to pass them all more so that if you look
at some of the games that were successful where we
had a number of sacks the offensive points brought. So again,
can we be better on run defense? Certainly tackling run
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fits all those type of things, but to me, that's
also a team stat, you know, so collective, we've.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Got to do a better job with that.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Hey, Brian, you've noticed a shift between athletes of the
supreme and I know you're posted and you feel like
there needs more of a necessity proposes to adapt to players.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Who are more you know, CEOs of their own businesses
come in and have you know, more brand forward and
things like that. Relative to where we are now. Yeah,
I think there's been I was talking about this with
somebody the other day.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You know, when I first started coaching nineteen ninety seven
to now it's it's quite a long time, and there's.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
There's you just go by five year increments.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You can think of things that have changed for each
five years, and you've got to do a good job,
as it helps, of trying to adapt to that, whether
you're a position coach, a coordinator, or in this case,
a head coach, of dealing with you know, the athletes
and the children of today, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And I got some good experience. My daughter's boyfriend is getting.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Ready for the Major League Baseball Draft too, so he's
going through some things, and I get a different perspective
when I talk to him about what.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
He's thinking of some of the things he's going through,
not just on the other end of it.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So, you know, each year, it seems like the kids
are changing, and you need to do a good job
of trying to change with them.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Because it's not going to go the other way, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So I feel, you know, these kids have earned the
opportunity to have some of those opportunities that they're getting
in the nil and money that they're getting and some
of the stuff in their brands, and that's the world
we live in today. So I'm not maybe good with
all that stuff on the computer stuff side of it.
But I certainly appreciate where they're at at this point
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and there in twenty twenty five different than it was,
say two thousand.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
How did you learn to talking on the draft process
like through the eyes of the player?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, I just you know, I feel for these kids,
particularly when they're playing, like they make a mistake, they're like,
oh my gosh, am I going to fall here?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Am I going to do this?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And staying in the moment and being confident and really
so speak, ignoring the outside noise and believing in themselves
and having great confidence and not focusing on where it
might be, but doing the best job that they can
with the good attitude.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And you know, again back to.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Two thousands or twenty twenty five, a guy makes a
mistake two thousand and nineteen ninety seven, you'll maybe be
in the newspaper, but now it's it's everywhere. And I
think there's you know, there's lessons to be learned and
education that needs to take place to help these young
athletes deal with those type of things.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
We talk the film to watch as what he's done,
How does that fifty that you've done?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
How much is you got the chance today.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, Well, I'm always a big believer in you. You
try to run things that the quarterback and you guys
do well. So I'm not I'm not like, hey, we're me.
There's this playbook, learn the playbook. I think the playbook
has to be ever changing, and you have to do things.
Whether it's Russ, whether it's Jamis like, whether I've watched it,
you know, all their tape. You know, it's been a
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long process with the college guys as well. So there's
and you just try to figure out, you know, what
you think they do really well so that you can
have good conversations with them Dan and say, hey, tell
me about what you like and then see if it correlates.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
With what you saw on tape. And if they tell
you something, well, I like this. Well I've watched so
many plays. I haven't seen you run this play one time?
So do we where are we going here with this?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And then develop in that regard to sit there and
just go through what you did the year before the
year before, and this is the play and this.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Is how we run it.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I think, much like dealing with the athlete, you have
to you have to deal with the system, the same way.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I just don't believe it had This is what you do.
This is the playbook. This isn't black and white, This
is not we're going to do it. You have different
players that have different skill sets. Quarterback touches the ball
on every play. It could be a little thing as
a change of a little bit of a cadence, or
how we make an alerc or how we do something
to get back. There's so many things that go into it.
(27:16):
And I actually have great respect for the players that
have played this game. You know, it's hard to coach
this game. It's hard to play this game. And the
players that have played it, the two guys we've had it,
they have over you know, ten thousand snaps of throwing
the football in the National Football League. And I think
there's got to be a good communication process listening and
then given my thoughts and then have them listen and
(27:37):
give their thoughts and put it together and do what
I think is best for the for the football team, but.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Also best for those guys because they touch it on
every play.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
You there's a big topic of the conversation. It is
and something you guys have run it before. When you're
what you think about the idea of that play.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, I would say, we have a meeting at nine o'clock.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I'll be interested to sit in there and you know,
listen to everybody talk about it again and listen to
the medical experts. So we'll have a meeting here and
in a short time and you know, I'm gonna sit
back and listen to what the medical experts have to
say and arguments to and for what's wrong.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Mat with it?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
What do you what are you talking about to go
into it?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, I just want to sit and listen. I just
want to sit and listen to all the people talk
about it.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Russell handed the NFL Life and Stealers were obviously little
opportunity time to.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
See, you know, any of that field.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
But it's one to you experience, even those seed like
because there's the cliff that a player kind of where
the a individual show handle and there's anything that you
thought of starting with the players really down to.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Fred Well in terms of the cliff until you're with
with players and you're coaching that I'm I'm looking forward
to working with Russ again. I know they started out hot,
you know, he started out and then it's a it's
a team sport. It's the greatest team sport of all time.
So you know, I've I've watched him, I've watched what
(29:08):
I think he can do well. I've watched on stuff
that I think maybe we can help him with, and.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I've watched uff that maybe he can help us with.
And I said the same thing with Jamis.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
So again, we have the two guys that have played
a lot of football, that have seen a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Uh, and I'm looking forward to working with both. Lets
get rand you guys, he was kind of putting that
lead to May playing tight end. Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean again with all the guys, he's a big
he's a big body guy.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
So we'll get him into the program and and we'll
see where he's at.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
But again, with all the additions, which there's been a
number of them, there always is this time of year.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Uh, you know, a few weeks would be good to
get him in a building.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Do you feel like you're a better head coach when
you call plays or when you dealt another word?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Do you feel comfortable on the headset control of that
or yeah? I would say that did do either well enough?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
So but look, I have confidence in our staff, confidence
of Mike, have confidence and offensive guys.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Again, what changes will be made.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I want to go through the off season. I want
to go through ot as there's gonna you're gonna see.
I know last year you saw me with the microphone
right and holding it walkie talking. You see Mike with
the microphone at times this year. You know, we'll go
through that whole process leading up to the preseason games
and see where we're at.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But but to answer your question, Bat, I gotta do
I could do both jobs better. Okay, how do you
balance John saying he maybe wants that for you to
focus on the head coaching. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't
say that though, just I know what he talked about
that that wasn't He didn't say that. That was.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
We had a conversation about a lot of different things
as we have h throughout my time here, which has been,
you know, very productive. Something I actually brought up in
one of those meetings, just just thinking about how we
can get better and the possibility of maybe doing that.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
It wasn't this is what we're gonna do, this is
how we're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It was more kind of a brainstorming, if you will,
that of things that you know, I want to try
to get better at myself.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I get when there is a pressure to win, Well.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
There's pressure to win August, there's pressure to win. The NFL,
there's there's always pressure to win. There's pressure to win
when you have a fourteen and two season, there's pressure
to win with the three and fourteen season. I've been
on both ends of them. There's always pressure win. You
can keep asking go ahead again, ahead, when there's pressure
(31:36):
to win, do you want to lean into what you
feel you beast that? Yeah, And I'd say to answer
that whatever it is that that you know once we
get to that point that I feel is going to
be the best for the football team, you know, whether
it is whether it's not.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Whatever I feel like, Hey, this is, this has been
good in the off.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Season, this I like, how this is when I feel
comfortable here and more like whatever that ends up being
the end product.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
That's That's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
When you wrote a color rise no pro day, you
know you've gone to product in the path.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, I'd say very few of them. I prefer private workouts.
You get to spend a lot of time, particularly for
the quarterbacks. Now you know if there's more than that potentially,
but I prefer private workouts where you can set a
script when you're working out the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
You can put them through the things that you want
to see.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Maybe it's different than what they did for the pro
day that they've practiced a bunch, you can spend a
lot of time with the player in the meeting room
in addition to what you've spent before. You can recap
some of the things that you've taught, you can add
some new things. You can see how they interact with
some of their guys in a kind of an intimate setting.
If you will put them in charge of some things
to take care of for the workouts. So you know,
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I think this would be and we've done a number of.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
These private workouts for the for the Core acquisition. That's
that's what I prefer.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
If