November 20, 2025 • 10 mins
Defensive coordinator Shane Bowen speaks to the media Thursday from the Quest Diagnostics Training Center.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Instead making up plays to win. On Sunday, I felt
like there were some good things. I thought we responded
there after a little bit shaky first half to be
able to close out late, give a two minutes stop
and and just then make enough in the end. Gotta
find ways to put these guys in position, make plays
in the fourth quarter where we can close some of
these games out. And same story right now, and we're
(00:23):
fighting to fighting to fix it, fighting to find solutions
for these guys and just being able to make the
plays when we need the most.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What do you think the challenge this week of the
offense and some of the creativity.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It seems like they do things that maybe nobody else does.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, I think they're they're
really talented across the board. Starts with their quarterback and
then the running game two really good backs. Obviously the
skilled players will them are able to take at the
distance no matter where they catch it. So I mean
it starts there, and they're creative finding ways to get
those playmakers the ball. And again we're gonna have to
(00:58):
be locked in. We've got to make sure we do
our job every single play. Again, you can't really anticipate
when those things are coming, so hopefully were locked in
and we can do our best to do our job
when they do come and be in position how much
you did last week.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You're obviously going in you probably have a plan. You're
thinking Paulson is going to be there, and then you
get to the game and you have to kind of
change on the fly there.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, honestly, it's not a whole lot different than if
it were to happen in the first series, if you
get what I'm saying. But yeah, it was obviously he
couldn't go. They made a decision he couldn't go, and
again we got to adjust. That's our job, and hopefully
those guys are ready to go. They got to prepare
to play and hopefully in that situation or throughout the game,
(01:43):
if something comes up, those guys are ready to play
and we can keep going and make the adjustments we
need to make that.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Change much you can do that is your top corner
back there.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, it's something we definitely look at right how we're playing.
Certain things have to change from things depending on who's
going in that spot, what we're comfortable with. Obviously, something
we always look at based on our personnel.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
What do you think of the season Flats having and
do you think assuming you think it's you know, he's progressed.
Do you think that's because he's settled into one spot
for his first three years here? I know you're only
here for one That was like, is he is.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He a slot? Is he an outside corner? Whatever? You
guys gave him a chance and it seems like he's responded.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. I think he's uh improved dramatically over my time
here and then obviously getting settled in to competing for
that outside job through the spring and through training camp.
I think he's had a really good ear for us
and made some plays. There's some plays I'm sure he'd
like to have back, but consistent every single day, the
same guy comes out here, practices, works at it, and
(02:46):
it shows up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Why did you bench Drew Phillips turning in?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah? Really with Nick? I felt like Nick earned a
right to play a little bit right, He's he's out
here working, He's done a really good job. We got
him in there, felt confident in his ability to go
in there and play, and I would say he earned
the right to play, So get him out there was good.
Seeing him make the big play on third and two
was good. So I kind of see where that goes.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Why didn't you start the game there? Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Because I got confidence and Drew. I got confidence and
Drew to go out there and do all those things
as are starting Nickel, just trying to get him some time,
a rotation, I think week to week, it's just something
we look at and again just felt like Nick or
and the opportunity to go play. So it was more
about Nick than anything else.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Anything different you saw from Dexter Lawrence that I mean
like it seemed like he popped more on tape.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Any reasons for that.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
H.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, I mean I think he took advantage of some
one on ones. I think he was disruptive when we
had him on the move, able to get in the
backfield thinking one of the pressures. He was able to
wrap and and make somebody right and force them out.
So just continuing to be disruptive in there, and when
we when he gets his chances one on one or
on the move, or we can change the math a
(04:03):
little bit for him, take advantage of those opportunities.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Those work for.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Mike has been Kafka has been aggressive. How much has
that been the message to you.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, I mean, don't hold anything back. Put these guys
in positions, make plays. Understand obviously this week's going to
be played aggressively by by their side of the football
as well, just with what they've done on fourth downs.
Understanding that and something we look at every week, just
how we're able to attack, like finding ways to attack
(04:38):
the situations we feel comfortable, attacking, the personnel we're playing with,
playing against all that comes into play, but again, finding
the best ways to put these guys in positions when
it matters most whatever that is to be able to
go effect and change the game.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I don't know how much time you and Mike, you know,
prior to last week, probably had not spent as much
time or maybe as you did doing your own things.
But what have you seen in him since he was elevated.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, a lot of the same things I saw when
he was the offense coordinator, just from Afar bringing it
in with the whole team, with the defensive unit involved.
Now the leadership. I think the tension of detail, how
he's adjusted some meetings I think has been good for us,
good for the guys. But he relates with all the
(05:26):
players offense defense. He wants to be involved, he wants
to know what's going on, so he can have those
conversations with our guys as well and be able to
hold them accountable to certain things. So I think he's
doing a really good job and hopefully we can get
some wins here.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
How does he relate with the players?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think by getting to know him, like getting to
know him, understanding what we're doing. I think that all
comes into it. But as a coach, it's about building relationships,
getting to know who they are, letting them in, to
know who you are, Families, what's your reason why? Everything
that kind of goes into this thing. It comes back
to relationships, and I think he's taking the time to
(06:08):
continue to build those relationships a little bit further and
probably what he was able to before as just the
offense coordinator.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, you think Abdul has recommitted himself since being benched
for that series on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I do. I Again, unfortunate situation handle internally, but
he's been locked in this week. He has. He came
in here Tuesday, ready to go, ready to learn, ready
to make the corrections. It was good yesterday. Guy to
continue to kind of stack these days here as we
get through the week, and hopefully we'll be ready to
(06:40):
go Sunday. Be a pro, be a pro keep working,
can't get frustrated with where things are. We got to
find ways to keep improving, take advantage of our opportunities
when they're there. But again, it's it's the consistency day
in and day out with all these guys, especially young players.
(07:01):
Just try to be the same guy every day, try
to work the same way every day and on Sunday,
Hopefully that pays off you guys.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
You guys emphasize takeaways as a priority. Went back to
the spring, Dan will come as much as you would like.
What what do you attribute that to? What do you
see on tab where that's been an issue?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, I think we've dropped some like you go back
Dallas game. We dropped a few against the Bears a
few weeks ago, we dropped one. I think last week
we punched one out weren't able to get it. There
was one that ended up getting overturned too that they
dropped and we were able to get on. I mean,
I think the biggest thing is just continue to emphasize
(07:39):
we can't miss opportunities. When we're in position, second guy in,
third guy in. We got to do a great job
of attacking the football when we got these guys secured,
and then continue to affect the quarterback. Try to find
ways to get out the quarterback. There's a number one
bumblers in the league every single year, So trying to
find ways to get off the quarterback and hopefully we
can make the ones when we do have the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
And I'll off to follow that up. You guys have
gotten a lot of pressure on the quarterback, but the
sacks maybe having come, do you how do you analyze
that to see like what's successful, what hasn't words, or
what has worked.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, obviously you want
you want the negative plays they come with that, But
at the same time, I think the ability to affect
and disrupt and really change the passing game, there's obviously
a huge benefit of that for our secondary and it's
it takes all of it, right, it takes all eleven
Give him to hold the ball and we're able to
(08:31):
get home, or we're able to put pressure on him,
force an air and throw a quick throw. Maybe he's
not ready to throw, So continue to get pressure on
him as best we can and hopefully find ways to
get him down when we have a chance.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Just see idea on a long long pass the thirty
three yard late, you had some one on ones upfront.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And yeah, get through.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
What was your Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I mean we brought five, we were we were tight
back there. Got to find a way to get through
and win somewhere. Burns did late after the chip, he
was able to get through late in position. We got
to do a better job down the field there when
we're chest to chest to being able to play play
through the hands right, Totally different situation than kind of
(09:18):
what Dane had when they're running and he's trying to
look back and his hand got up late where there's
not really momentum building on that throw. We're chest to chest,
Let's make sure we're playing through the hands, seeing the hands,
and again, we gotta find ways to make those plays.
There were two in that drive they made and we
did it.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I mean, Burns blaved. The guys up front said it was.
It was a tough play for flop there. Obviously have
done differently.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
There as a chest to chest. Just making sure I'm
seeing the receiver's hands like that point. I think it's
a different, different situation than when you're running and the
guys is underthrown and you got to try to get
your head around because there is going to be that collision.
Right at that point, I think they were pretty much,
for lack of a better term, there wasn't a momentum
(10:02):
taking them down the field, so they were pretty much
just the chest just trying to find a way to
get my hands my hand threw his hands instead of
taking a peek
Instead making up plays to win. On Sunday, I felt
like there were some good things. I thought we responded
there after a little bit shaky first half to be
able to close out late, give a two minutes stop
and and just then make enough in the end. Gotta
find ways to put these guys in position, make plays
in the fourth quarter where we can close some of
these games out. And same story right now, and we're
(00:23):
fighting to fighting to fix it, fighting to find solutions
for these guys and just being able to make the
plays when we need the most.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What do you think the challenge this week of the
offense and some of the creativity.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It seems like they do things that maybe nobody else does.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, I think they're they're
really talented across the board. Starts with their quarterback and
then the running game two really good backs. Obviously the
skilled players will them are able to take at the
distance no matter where they catch it. So I mean
it starts there, and they're creative finding ways to get
those playmakers the ball. And again we're gonna have to
(00:58):
be locked in. We've got to make sure we do
our job every single play. Again, you can't really anticipate
when those things are coming, so hopefully were locked in
and we can do our best to do our job
when they do come and be in position how much
you did last week.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You're obviously going in you probably have a plan. You're
thinking Paulson is going to be there, and then you
get to the game and you have to kind of
change on the fly there.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, honestly, it's not a whole lot different than if
it were to happen in the first series, if you
get what I'm saying. But yeah, it was obviously he
couldn't go. They made a decision he couldn't go, and
again we got to adjust. That's our job, and hopefully
those guys are ready to go. They got to prepare
to play and hopefully in that situation or throughout the game,
(01:43):
if something comes up, those guys are ready to play
and we can keep going and make the adjustments we
need to make that.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Change much you can do that is your top corner
back there.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, it's something we definitely look at right how we're playing.
Certain things have to change from things depending on who's
going in that spot, what we're comfortable with. Obviously, something
we always look at based on our personnel.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
What do you think of the season Flats having and
do you think assuming you think it's you know, he's progressed.
Do you think that's because he's settled into one spot
for his first three years here? I know you're only
here for one That was like, is he is.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He a slot? Is he an outside corner? Whatever? You
guys gave him a chance and it seems like he's responded.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. I think he's uh improved dramatically over my time
here and then obviously getting settled in to competing for
that outside job through the spring and through training camp.
I think he's had a really good ear for us
and made some plays. There's some plays I'm sure he'd
like to have back, but consistent every single day, the
same guy comes out here, practices, works at it, and
(02:46):
it shows up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Why did you bench Drew Phillips turning in?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah? Really with Nick? I felt like Nick earned a
right to play a little bit right, He's he's out
here working, He's done a really good job. We got
him in there, felt confident in his ability to go
in there and play, and I would say he earned
the right to play, So get him out there was good.
Seeing him make the big play on third and two
was good. So I kind of see where that goes.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Why didn't you start the game there? Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Because I got confidence and Drew. I got confidence and
Drew to go out there and do all those things
as are starting Nickel, just trying to get him some time,
a rotation, I think week to week, it's just something
we look at and again just felt like Nick or
and the opportunity to go play. So it was more
about Nick than anything else.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Anything different you saw from Dexter Lawrence that I mean
like it seemed like he popped more on tape.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Any reasons for that.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
H.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, I mean I think he took advantage of some
one on ones. I think he was disruptive when we
had him on the move, able to get in the
backfield thinking one of the pressures. He was able to
wrap and and make somebody right and force them out.
So just continuing to be disruptive in there, and when
we when he gets his chances one on one or
on the move, or we can change the math a
(04:03):
little bit for him, take advantage of those opportunities.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Those work for.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Mike has been Kafka has been aggressive. How much has
that been the message to you.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, I mean, don't hold anything back. Put these guys
in positions, make plays. Understand obviously this week's going to
be played aggressively by by their side of the football
as well, just with what they've done on fourth downs.
Understanding that and something we look at every week, just
how we're able to attack, like finding ways to attack
(04:38):
the situations we feel comfortable, attacking, the personnel we're playing with,
playing against all that comes into play, but again, finding
the best ways to put these guys in positions when
it matters most whatever that is to be able to
go effect and change the game.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I don't know how much time you and Mike, you know,
prior to last week, probably had not spent as much
time or maybe as you did doing your own things.
But what have you seen in him since he was elevated.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, a lot of the same things I saw when
he was the offense coordinator, just from Afar bringing it
in with the whole team, with the defensive unit involved.
Now the leadership. I think the tension of detail, how
he's adjusted some meetings I think has been good for us,
good for the guys. But he relates with all the
(05:26):
players offense defense. He wants to be involved, he wants
to know what's going on, so he can have those
conversations with our guys as well and be able to
hold them accountable to certain things. So I think he's
doing a really good job and hopefully we can get
some wins here.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
How does he relate with the players?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think by getting to know him, like getting to
know him, understanding what we're doing. I think that all
comes into it. But as a coach, it's about building relationships,
getting to know who they are, letting them in, to
know who you are, Families, what's your reason why? Everything
that kind of goes into this thing. It comes back
to relationships, and I think he's taking the time to
(06:08):
continue to build those relationships a little bit further and
probably what he was able to before as just the
offense coordinator.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, you think Abdul has recommitted himself since being benched
for that series on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I do. I Again, unfortunate situation handle internally, but
he's been locked in this week. He has. He came
in here Tuesday, ready to go, ready to learn, ready
to make the corrections. It was good yesterday. Guy to
continue to kind of stack these days here as we
get through the week, and hopefully we'll be ready to
(06:40):
go Sunday. Be a pro, be a pro keep working,
can't get frustrated with where things are. We got to
find ways to keep improving, take advantage of our opportunities
when they're there. But again, it's it's the consistency day
in and day out with all these guys, especially young players.
(07:01):
Just try to be the same guy every day, try
to work the same way every day and on Sunday,
Hopefully that pays off you guys.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
You guys emphasize takeaways as a priority. Went back to
the spring, Dan will come as much as you would like.
What what do you attribute that to? What do you
see on tab where that's been an issue?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, I think we've dropped some like you go back
Dallas game. We dropped a few against the Bears a
few weeks ago, we dropped one. I think last week
we punched one out weren't able to get it. There
was one that ended up getting overturned too that they
dropped and we were able to get on. I mean,
I think the biggest thing is just continue to emphasize
(07:39):
we can't miss opportunities. When we're in position, second guy in,
third guy in. We got to do a great job
of attacking the football when we got these guys secured,
and then continue to affect the quarterback. Try to find
ways to get out the quarterback. There's a number one
bumblers in the league every single year, So trying to
find ways to get off the quarterback and hopefully we
can make the ones when we do have the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
And I'll off to follow that up. You guys have
gotten a lot of pressure on the quarterback, but the
sacks maybe having come, do you how do you analyze
that to see like what's successful, what hasn't words, or
what has worked.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, obviously you want
you want the negative plays they come with that, But
at the same time, I think the ability to affect
and disrupt and really change the passing game, there's obviously
a huge benefit of that for our secondary and it's
it takes all of it, right, it takes all eleven
Give him to hold the ball and we're able to
(08:31):
get home, or we're able to put pressure on him,
force an air and throw a quick throw. Maybe he's
not ready to throw, So continue to get pressure on
him as best we can and hopefully find ways to
get him down when we have a chance.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Just see idea on a long long pass the thirty
three yard late, you had some one on ones upfront.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And yeah, get through.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
What was your Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I mean we brought five, we were we were tight
back there. Got to find a way to get through
and win somewhere. Burns did late after the chip, he
was able to get through late in position. We got
to do a better job down the field there when
we're chest to chest to being able to play play
through the hands right, Totally different situation than kind of
(09:18):
what Dane had when they're running and he's trying to
look back and his hand got up late where there's
not really momentum building on that throw. We're chest to chest,
Let's make sure we're playing through the hands, seeing the hands,
and again, we gotta find ways to make those plays.
There were two in that drive they made and we
did it.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I mean, Burns blaved. The guys up front said it was.
It was a tough play for flop there. Obviously have
done differently.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
There as a chest to chest. Just making sure I'm
seeing the receiver's hands like that point. I think it's
a different, different situation than when you're running and the
guys is underthrown and you got to try to get
your head around because there is going to be that collision.
Right at that point, I think they were pretty much,
for lack of a better term, there wasn't a momentum
(10:02):
taking them down the field, so they were pretty much
just the chest just trying to find a way to
get my hands my hand threw his hands instead of
taking a peek
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