Giants Extra Point | Giants vs. Eagles Recap

John Schmeelk, Tiki Barber and Bob Papa break down the Giants' Week 6 win over the Philadelphia Eagles on Giants Extra Point.

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Football Giants defeat the Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday Night Football.
John Schmelt, Tiki Barber, Bob Papa with you and Tiki,
I want to start with you. Just a great job
by this Giants team. They do not turn it over
in this game, and they score five touchdowns against an
Eagles defense that has been pretty.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Good this year.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
They have been, but they're also flawed. This team, this
Eagles team in general, is flawed. We talked about it
in the pregame, whether it's attrition with offensive linemen out
or you know Jalen Carter, he's out on the defensive
side of the ball. Their secondary got banged up. But
who cares about feeling sorry for the opponent? You want
to take advantage of any weakness that it's available to you,
and the Giants did that, especially defensively in the second

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half with the two turnovers.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Cordell Float's interception was perfectly time.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now it was a fluttered week pass by Jalen Hurts
to the sideline that Flott took advantage of and save
Saquon Barkley saved a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
But ultimately, you give credit to all of.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
These guys for rising to the occasion against an Eagles
team the Giants just have not been.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Able to beat for a decade.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
It feels like, so hats off to a wire to
wire essential win for the New York Giants. And Bob,
you've called all these games the Eagles, to put it plainly,
have on the Giants in recent history.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, man, listen again.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
The Giants with the number one seed in two thousand
and eight looked like they had a chance to go
back to back Super Bowls. Unfortunately they didn't have Plax Skoll,
bars Donod McNabb and the Eagles went into Giants Stadium
and beat them. And counting that day, the Eagles had
beaten the Giants twenty seven out of thirty four times.
And I can't remember, well really anytime that the Giants
have beat the Eagles when it mattered, And now this

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one mattered. This it does Philadelphia. This wasn't one of
these ends of the season. They got him in Andy
Reid's last game in Philly. They got him at the
end of the season in twenty three game didn't mean anything.
This meant something in prime time against an Eagles team
that was coming off a loss. They gave up eighteen
points in the fourth quarter lose to Denver last week.

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This is their get right game. Sake one on the
first two plays of the game, two carries for a
total of thirty one yards, and you're like, oh boy,
it's gonna get right. And the Giants got right and
tightened up their defense.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Just ten for twenty seven the rest of the way
for Barkway.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Philadelphia was one for nine on third downs. They hit
a third and seven early in the game. They failed
on a third and one, failed on a third and three,
failed on a third and six, a third and seven,
a third and eight, and three third and nine pluses.
So the Giants did a really good job of tackling,
rallying to the ball.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Hey Goddard got his Goddard got one hundred yards in
this game.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
But you know what, Smith and aj Brown, didn't you
beat you with deep balls?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And that was important, well fortunate on the one. Then
the Giants had nothing to do with the one.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
But still yeah, but yeah, Theagle Cordell flop busted play
where DeVante Smith was wide openly streaking down the sideline
and Dalen Hurches overthrew it.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Conversely, the Eagles were lucky that THEO Johnson prior to
that dropped the pass, or the Giants would have still
had the ball and maybe scored. So that is kind
of turns out to be a wash in that situation.
But hey, flot makes a heck of a play the
way they rallied to the ball in this football game.
And then what Jackson Dart brings to the table. You know,
you think about a play in the first half, it

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turned out to be incomplete to Wandell Robinson and it
was a scramble kind of drill. But in the past
Giant quarterbacks are just getting sacked there and Dark used
his legs. And I was talking with Mike Quick, great
Philadelphia Eagle and part of their radio broadcast team at
halftime and he's like, this kid's a difference maker.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
He goes he's gonna just get better and better.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
And we kind of talked about the plays that Jackson
Dark kept alive with his legs really were a factor
in this.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Game Giants because of many of those plays.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Eleven of sixteen on third downs themselves, three of three
in the red zone, three touchdowns, and then camp Scatabu
as well, nineteen carries ninety eight yards, three touchdowns and
he kind of pounds the ball on that Giants format
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Speaker 1 (04:41):
Giants quick time out.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
We'll come back, get Brian Dable to podium that a
whole lot more when we return. The Giants defeat the
Philadelphia Eagles thirty four to seventeen.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
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Speaker 5 (05:00):
The second goal of the four with one twenty two
to go in the half, guard out of the gun
this time brings Bellinger in motion.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Handoff, Scataboo runs up Hinder the.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
End zone touchdown Giants, Scataboo's third rushing touchdown of the season.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
How the Giants are back in front with one nineteen
to go in the half.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
That gave the Giants a twenty to seventeen lead, the
first points in a twenty one to zering run that
the Giants closed this game on. That cam Skataboo before
yard touchdown completed a fifteen play sixty seven yard drive
at the end of the second quarter to close out
the half of the Giants and again give them that
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y'all want to go to you on Skataboo, the guy
rarely loses yards. He's always falling four for an extra
one or two on every play.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
He punishes the defense.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
He's just I think he has been a huge reason
the Giants have transformed their red zone offense, which was
terrible the first couple of weeks, and since he's been
playing more, it's been a lot better' And he just
changes the whole tenor of how this offense works.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I look.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I love Tyrone Tracy's rookie season a year ago and
how elusive he felt and the ability to cut back
against the grain and find space and make big plays.
But this Giants team feels like for a couple of years,
is lacked like an like an attitude. It's lacked a
like an I'm in your face. If you're gonna hit
us in the mouth, I'm gonna hit you right back

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in the mouth. And camp Scataboo is exactly that.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
He runs hard, He runs with with purpose, he runs
with vigor and with an attitude which is we saw
at the end of this game in the fourth quarters
there in their four minute drill.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Tap out can often get him in trouble because he
got the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. But you're exactly right, John,
they laid down the sword right. There was time left
in this game, even though the math on possessions probably
meant that it was over after the Eagles gave the
ball back to the Giants, but they quit, they laid down.
It was because they couldn't stop the run. He had

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four plays or four or five plays in a row
to Camp Scataboo, a seventeen yard run, then eleven yard run,
then he had a ten yard run. He picked up
the first down, then he gets another a big run.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Those type of punishing moments are just demoralizing to a team.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Let's go to Brian Dable at the podium downstairs.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
Okay, good team winning. That's a division team on the
road or at home.

Speaker 9 (07:38):
Should I say home crowd was awesome, but we got
to give him a reason to be awesome too. So
another good game by a rookie quarterback, but another good
game from everybody around him. And that's what we need it.
You know, it's not about one guy, it's about a team.
Two turnovers on defense, very good third down execution on offense,

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rand the ball, well, finish the game. You know, it's
good to have a young leader like Dart.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
Yeah, waiting feels good.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
So there are a lot of coaches looking in their
offices this week, and I appreciate about those guys.

Speaker 8 (08:25):
You know, they put a lot into it, like they
do every week. The players put a lot into it.
We had a lot of walkthroughs.

Speaker 9 (08:32):
I'm just happy for those guys that put so much
into it, uh to try to get the outcome we
all desire. Play clean football. It's a good football team
that we just played. So get a little bit of
a couple of days off rest our guys.

Speaker 8 (08:49):
Hopefully we'll get them back.

Speaker 9 (08:50):
We'll be back on Monday. Get ready for our next opponent.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
The scatter will give.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
You work than the yards he gets.

Speaker 10 (09:02):
Is this some kind of an energy that is infectious
with these guys when he's marked to have come.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
To bring down like that?

Speaker 9 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean he's just a good teammate and it
plays with high amount of say energy, toughness.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
Certainly people can feed off that.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
So what do you like best about Dark tonight?

Speaker 11 (09:28):
I don't.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
I've liked everything about Dark since we've got him. So again,
he's it's not perfect. It's not gonna be perfect, you know,
there's gonna be drop a bat.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
Whatever it may be. But got toughness.

Speaker 9 (09:42):
I think he sees the field well, he's got athleticism, vision, leadership,
you know. But here's three games in you know two
and one is starting quarterback, but a lot to work on.

Speaker 8 (09:58):
So and he'll be the first to tell you that.
But he's a leaders the emotions.

Speaker 12 (10:05):
How does he need like when you say good to
have a young leader like dark like how he leads.

Speaker 9 (10:10):
By his play, He leads by his words, he leads
by his emotion, he leads by his loose plays.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
But he's my quarterback, our quarterback. And again he's a rookie.

Speaker 9 (10:25):
So, as one of my mentors once said, let's not,
you know, give him a gold jacket right now, Coach Parcels.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
But he's a good young player to work with.

Speaker 13 (10:39):
His legs make everything.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
How much difference his legs make with everything?

Speaker 8 (10:46):
Yeah? It helps, yea, it helps.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
He just obviously has an uncanny ability to kind of
feel the.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Brush around him.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Is that just a god given thing?

Speaker 13 (10:55):
I mean does that?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
I mean most guys don't have that.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
It keeps his eyes down feel he's got awareness in
the pocket. I mean he had it at all, miss
at least what I watched of it. So again, each
week we'll get tougher. I think you asked that question
the other day as you put more tape. But let's

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let's give credit to the other guys too, as he
would offensive line.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
I don't know. We must have rushed for what two
hundred yards? Dan? Yeah, close to it.

Speaker 14 (11:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
Third down was eleven or sixteen? I think red zone?
What was that? Jordan? You got it? Three or three?
There you go.

Speaker 9 (11:41):
So when you play good situational football, you don't turn
it over. You know, we didn't have any turnovers, right,
help a lot better than five last week. And then
you create turnovers. We'll to play by flot you know,
down there to get it. And you know, we talked
about it last week. He was going back to you know,

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down south. I said, he owed me one because he
was going to get one down there. And what a
big play in a big moment.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
Again.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
I love these guys. They grind. It's not always been easy.
They won't be easy. We'll go back to work on Monday.
Coaches will go back on work tomorrow. I'm sure they're
not happy about that, but.

Speaker 8 (12:21):
It's a good win.

Speaker 13 (12:22):
Do you feel do you feel validated in your decision
to go? You put it on your shoulders. You said,
this is my call. I'm starting im. I want to
start with her. Validated in doing that?

Speaker 8 (12:31):
Yeah, I don't think like that, Connor.

Speaker 9 (12:32):
I'm just happy for the coaches, the players.

Speaker 8 (12:36):
You know, when you get a win.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
So two and one in the last three, got a
tough team coming, We're going there, right, Yeah, I mean,
short week. I'm just happy for our players and our coaches.
They put a lot into it and you know, win some.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
Lose some lose some. It sucks.

Speaker 9 (12:58):
So I feel I feel good for of those guys.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean, at the receiver situation, it's been I was
going to ask you about.

Speaker 10 (13:07):
What was what you see in him in it?

Speaker 9 (13:10):
But he got his stats. Yeah, how about that one
down and double move on the sideline? You know how
I caused the dpi That was huge for us down
there to get it to the one called a couple
of quick ones. But you know, down you know, I'd
say that's another thing that just the next guy stepping up.
We have someone that was on the practice squad. We

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got Jalen Hyatt out there who hasn't played a lot
for us. You know, you're down, Neighbors, you're down Slaton,
no excuses, just go to work and even on a
short week.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
You know, that was somebody that I know.

Speaker 9 (13:41):
Jackson had a lot of confidence and throwing to him
from the preseason. You know, he had a lot of
reps with him, so you know, we talked about that,
you know, and I felt comfortable with it, and he
did a good job.

Speaker 15 (14:00):
Which is scataboo. Obviously last week you had to fumble.
You know, maybe under different circumstances you said them, you
put somebody else in. Maybe you lose faith in a rookie.
What does it say about your confidence in him and
this team's confidence in him, to not only put him
out there tonight, but to just keep giving it to
him and giving it to Yeah.

Speaker 9 (14:17):
Yeah, I'd say I'm confident in all of our players.
That's why they're here. And it certainly hasn't always been
perfect for anybody, but I have confidence.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
In our guys.

Speaker 9 (14:29):
You go through some tough times, sometimes you can get
stronger from it, or sometimes you can fold.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
I like our guys. But we got a lot of
work to do, you know, we are where we're at.

Speaker 9 (14:43):
We got to keep battling still early in the season.
But these young players. I have a lot of confidence
in these young players, these rookies, they got the right mindset.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
They're tough, you know.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
I don't know what the personal follow he got, but
we'll talk about that, you know, on Monday at the
end of the game.

Speaker 12 (15:05):
So, yeah, in the three starts that Dart has had,
you guys have scored touchdowns and those what's different team
wise that versus previously that when it was hard to
get that opening drive for the team.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
We're executing well.

Speaker 9 (15:22):
So he's made plays with his legs, he's made plays
with his arms, we've run the ball, we've executed.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
I think you you know.

Speaker 9 (15:30):
When you have a guy that can make loose plays,
you know, everything doesn't have to be perfect.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
That's a that's a benefit. I've had guys like that before,
and this guy is.

Speaker 9 (15:44):
It's a good guy to have all all. But you know,
young and I'm gonna go through some growing pains, but
I have a tremendous amount of.

Speaker 8 (15:55):
Confidence in Jackson.

Speaker 15 (15:56):
Dart when games when he went to the medical ten.

Speaker 9 (16:01):
Yeah, I mean, you always want to try to score
on your opening drive. We have scored on our what
was it two opening drives or two two in a row?
Three in a row was yes, last week it was
two in a row. So that shit or sorry, you know,
you gotta play the whole game.

Speaker 15 (16:17):
So Daves when he went into the medical ten. When
Jackson went into the medical ten, TV cameras was on
your sidelines if you want to go in find out
what's going on, scatterboy. I think at one point tried
sneaking in there trying to find out what was going on.
Could you just describe the emotions in that moment. I'm
sure you know, yeah, what's going on.

Speaker 9 (16:36):
I mean, look, if you've ever been on an NFL sideline,
there's a lot of emotions.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
I know.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
I was asked about gloves the other day. There's a
lot of emotions. Uh, And I certainly am an emotional guy.
I apologized directly to our team physician. I just wanted
his ass out there if he was okay, but I
wanted to process like we were getting ready to go
for it on potential for down. I would have burned
the time out if he could have came out there.
So I was asking, how long is it gonna take?

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So again, you want your guy out there, not at
risk of anything else. But you know, he came out
and I think he's gonna be good.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
I'm like, is he gonna be good or not?

Speaker 9 (17:10):
I'm gonna call time out on fourth down and go
for the song.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
Bitch urt, you know what I mean. So I love
our doctors and.

Speaker 14 (17:19):
Pat.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
I'm sure you're gonna ask me about that, so I'll
just give you the answer. I apologized I was in
the wrong, but he's all right.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
He gave me a hug.

Speaker 16 (17:31):
Speaking of emotions, yeah, he looked pretty animated when Philly
randos to back to back push Philly push plays.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Did you see something maybe they were doing that wasn't cold?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
There's something you're trying to point out some reps.

Speaker 17 (17:45):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
Yeah, they scored on it, so we gotta do a
better job of it.

Speaker 15 (17:51):
Defense, what did you guys really did a great job defensively.

Speaker 18 (17:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
I try to say this.

Speaker 9 (18:01):
Look, they played well defensively, but you got to play
team football in order to play better defense. You got
to play good offensive football too to get them in
certain spots. So you can do different things. Most games
are going to be tight. You know, we get these
guys in a few weeks. That's a hell of a
football team. They're well coached, with a lot of good players,
and I'll tell you that Nick's done an unbelievable job there.

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They got a lot of vic you know, they have.
They have a lot of good players, and they have
a lot of good coaches on their on their roster,
and we're playing them in a in a few weeks,
so all all due respect, that's I mean, they've been
one of the leaders in the NFL here the last
few years, so and that's credit to coach Sirianni, who
have a good relationship with But it's good to get

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a win at home. So it's two and a row
at home, which we need to play well at home
to get a home field advantage to give our fans
something to be excited about, and hopefully we did that
for him.

Speaker 10 (19:00):
There.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
You shut them out in the second half.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
And also what did you think of where did the
called on all outlets?

Speaker 13 (19:06):
I think you sent seven on the interception of the five?

Speaker 9 (19:09):
Would yeah, be aggressive? I till Shane be aggressive. Don't
hold anything in your holster, go after him.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
But I thought he did a good job of mixing
things up. You disguise and some stuff. Again, that's a
good football team, you know.

Speaker 9 (19:23):
That's that's a damn good football team, and they're going
to make plays.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
This game means to the fans.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
Was there any extragizational speech to the players, that speak,
go to your normalsy trying to get over to home
and beat an Eagle steam.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, it's it's a short week, so.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
You know, you you have I would say for my meetings,
they're quick and to the point, and I'll show some tape,
but I want to give the coaches an opportunity to
go ahead and meet with their position and coordinator to
make sure we got in. So, look, our goal is
to win when we go out there, and our goal

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is to perform well at home. You know, perform well
in a row too, but perform well at home for
these people that come and you know, stick with us
and give them something to be excited about.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
You know, we got we got work to do, but.

Speaker 9 (20:21):
It's good to have this young leader.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
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Speaker 1 (20:29):
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Speaker 2 (20:30):
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Dart and everything else. Brian Table spoke about Giants again
defeat the Philadelphia Eagles thirty four to seventeen.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
They improve their record to two and four. We'll be
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Speaker 2 (20:48):
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Jackson Dart right off the set for Amazon. He's at
the podium.

Speaker 11 (20:54):
I try to talk about it in the week of
just how important it is to start fast, and you know,
it's it's a great tone center of the game and
especially getting the big boys rolling up front, so you know,
that's that's definitely really important to to come out and
score on that drive, you know, and then give the
defense the chance to to go match it.

Speaker 13 (21:13):
So it was big for.

Speaker 16 (21:14):
Us with what you guys are trying to build, going
up against a team like Philly just won the Super
Bowl last year.

Speaker 19 (21:19):
To have this performance today, What type of message do
you guys.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Think you sent.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
Well, you know, first of all, like we can't be
naive to you know, everything, so we we hear what
people say, and uh, definitely like lights of fire in us.
And you know, me and Scott talked about, you know,
like last week we felt like it was kind of
just like on us, you know, losing that game and
we felt like we moved the ball just fine. So
you know, our big emsis was just to you know,

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make sure that we take care of the ball. And
we felt like, you know, if we do that, then
we're going to be able to move the ball up
the field. So I'm just really proud of how the
guys played. And I think that, you know, we're just
trying to set a standard of intensity here each and
every day.

Speaker 13 (21:59):
What do you mean by what people said? You said?

Speaker 11 (22:01):
You said what people say what specifically stood out that
that urged you guys? Well, I just think that, like,
you know, there's like a you know, at times, there's
you know, some negativity that's surrounding here, and you know,
for for us, like you know, some of the new
guys that are coming here, like, you know, we just
got here, so you know, we don't feel like we
were involved in the past. And we got a lot

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of winners on this team and guys who come out
every single day and work their ass off to put
on a good showing on Sundays, and I feel like
we're just connected. And you know, we just had some
games that you know, at times in those moments where
it just hasn't gone our way, and we just feel
like we're you know, we do feel like we're a
really good team.

Speaker 13 (22:40):
We have really good players, so.

Speaker 11 (22:42):
You know, we're just trying to trying to win games.
We're just trying to stay you know, internal and uh
and stay connected each and every day.

Speaker 20 (22:48):
So what does it mean is you cam have the
same kind of response game that you did have the
turnover last week.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You guys actually did learn.

Speaker 11 (22:55):
Yeah, I mean, Scott just have a lot of talks, man,
Like you know, we sit next to each other on
the plane back. So it definitely hurt us last week
a lot, and you know, because we felt like we
should have we absolutely should have won that game. And
so you know, we had talks during the week and
we just kept telling each other like we got each other, like,
you know, we're gonna lay it all on the line
each and every play for each other.

Speaker 13 (23:16):
And you know.

Speaker 11 (23:17):
We try to message that to our teammates as much
as possible. And you know, we we know that, you know,
everybody's gonna rally around each other, you know, the more
that we have performances like this and uh so we
can't get too high, we can't get too low.

Speaker 13 (23:29):
The most important thing is.

Speaker 11 (23:30):
The next play, the next moment, and for us, it's
gonna be this next game.

Speaker 13 (23:34):
Do you think this was a statement. Do you think
this was a statement, not too high, not too low.
But was this a statement against a team like that?

Speaker 11 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean it absolutely is, because you know, you
have to have a lot of respect for that team.
They just come off of winning the super Bowl, they're
the top team in the league, and you know, quite honestly,
like nobody really expected us to put up a performance
like this, And you know, as a locker room, as teammates,
it's like, you know, we felt confident and uh, you.

Speaker 13 (24:02):
Know, we try to play hard for each other.

Speaker 11 (24:04):
We're not trying to make statements like, We're just trying
to play for each other and win games. So you know,
we wanted to find an identity and I felt like
we we did a good job of putting that a
little bit together tonight.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
What would what would that identity be?

Speaker 13 (24:17):
How would you describe it?

Speaker 11 (24:19):
You know, you know, just as a team, like we're
trying to finish, like in everything that we do, like
finish through the whistle, you know, in the fourth quarter,
you know when it's time to you know, see, you
know what teams are about. You know, we want to
finish and we have opportunities to win games. We have
to take advantage of that, you know, shout out to
our defense, like made an amazing play, and I felt

(24:40):
like that was a huge swing for our team. And
so everybody was involved in this, and uh, you know,
we're just trying to We're just trying to be a
tough noose team.

Speaker 12 (24:49):
Time you had a short week as an NFL player,
What was that preparation like going.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
Into the game.

Speaker 11 (24:55):
Well, it was kind of similar to you know, I
played in the egg ball in college, so we had
short weeks, so I kind of compared it to that,
But it was definitely you know, there's a lot more
that goes into the game plan in the NFL, so
it was a loaded week. But you know, I have
a great supporting cast around me, great coaches, great teammates
who really bought into this game plan, and I just
felt like we were did a really good job of

(25:15):
just staying on the same page, and you know, we
felt confident in the game plan and we were able
to go out there and play fast.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Actually think you finished full for four in the red tonight.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
What was the key? What was Why are you so
successful in the red zone tonight?

Speaker 11 (25:30):
I feel like the last three weeks we've gotten better
at it, and I think that we're just trying to
use the whole field, like we're trying to get everybody involved,
and guys are just executing. And you know that starts
with our offensive line, like you have to be able
to run the ball in the red zone, and they've
been able to get really good pushes and and we
lean on those guys, and we got running backs who
run really hard, and uh, you know, we we identified

(25:51):
it as a thing that we struggled on early in
the year.

Speaker 13 (25:53):
So we're just gonna try to stay consistent with that as.

Speaker 20 (25:57):
You're protecting yourself sometimes as opposed to get in the
extra yard And me, is there is there something away
when when you're diving.

Speaker 13 (26:04):
For first down? Definitely answer this question a lot.

Speaker 11 (26:06):
But there's just situations where if it's third down, I'm
going to get the first down, and that's important to me,
that's important to the team.

Speaker 13 (26:16):
We have to keep the drives alive.

Speaker 11 (26:17):
And was there maybe like one or two hits today
where I could have avoided.

Speaker 13 (26:21):
Yes, But.

Speaker 11 (26:23):
You know, in my mind, when I'm running the ball,
you know, I'm trying to you know, get a few
yards and put our team in a really good situation.
So I understand that you know, you got to take
care of your body, and I definitely try to do
my best with that. But in situations where you know
things are important, you know, I'm gonna do my best
to get that done.

Speaker 10 (26:40):
And when you went into the boat the blue tent,
it does seem like an hour and a half for you.

Speaker 13 (26:43):
It felt so long. It felt so long.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
What were.

Speaker 11 (26:49):
Yeah, I had a few guys pop in and uh,
you know, I was just trying to get back to
that out there on the field. I understand they have
a protocol and whatnot, but I was just trying to get.

Speaker 13 (26:58):
Out there fast. I'm tired of it, man, I'm tired
of it. Just two wins you had.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
The defense has really helped you out.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
What does it do for you when you see guys
like Burns getting those third down Safford in that interception.

Speaker 11 (27:10):
Well, we talk about it all the time in our
team meetings, like our defense is you know, you know,
done a great job of keeping us in games, you know,
even the games that we didn't win. And you know,
I feel like as a rookie quarterback, you know, to
have a defense play that hard and to make big
plays like that helps me out a lot.

Speaker 13 (27:28):
That helps our whole team out a lot.

Speaker 11 (27:30):
And I think you could feel like momentum shifts, especially
in that second half with how they played.

Speaker 13 (27:34):
So I love those guys. I love how hard that
they play.

Speaker 11 (27:39):
They played the chip on their shoulder and you know
they're gonna get better each and every week.

Speaker 13 (27:43):
So we have a ton of confidence in those guys.

Speaker 11 (27:45):
But it definitely, you know, helps us out as a
whole team when they're able to play like that.

Speaker 12 (27:50):
You talked about how you know the younger guys have
better the past, so you can't control what happened, But
where do you think the energy is with this team,
especially in the last three weeks what you guys been
to do.

Speaker 11 (28:02):
I just feel like we have a little bit more
like excitement, you know, in the locker room, Like we
feel like anytime we go out there on the field,
anybody that we're playing against, like, you know, we have
a chance to win.

Speaker 13 (28:11):
Like it doesn't matter.

Speaker 11 (28:12):
What Vegas says, it doesn't matter what the spread is.
You know, I was watching the Pat McAfee and they're
talking about the points spread of who's gonna win the game,
and we don't care about that stuff. Like we feel
like we're confident to go out there and put on
goodformance and and win games.

Speaker 21 (28:27):
Jackson.

Speaker 15 (28:27):
Since you and Scataboo and Abdul were drafted that weekend
and obviously the rest of the draft class, this organization
has talked about the attitude that you were gonna bring here.
How does that manifest itself and at night like.

Speaker 11 (28:40):
Tonight, Well, it's a long season, so we have to
bring it every single day. We have to try to
keep that the culture, and we have to stack wins,
Like we can't have performances where we play really good
and then the next game we turn the ball over
five times. Like that stuff can't happen. We have to
try to be consistent. From an attitude perspective, it's it's
it's kind of the energy that we're just trying to

(29:00):
bring here and the intensity of coming to work every
single day. And uh yeah, I think guys are trying
to do that and rally around each other.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
You were talking about that agactivity that you created, you as.

Speaker 13 (29:11):
One of the leaders of the team, how much you're
embracing being someone kind.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Of turn that around.

Speaker 13 (29:15):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 11 (29:17):
I understand that, like the most important thing for everybody's
winning And you know, as competitors. That's that's how we
feel too. And I feel like this city is starving
for that, and you know we are starving for that.

Speaker 8 (29:31):
You know.

Speaker 13 (29:31):
We we hate losing. It's the worst feeling in the world.

Speaker 11 (29:33):
So we try to you know, we just try to
do our best to you know, regardless of what you
know outside noises is. We try to keep you know,
everything internal between us. And you know, I have all
the confidence in the world of every single player in
this on this team, and we just got to try
to do our best to rally and stay consistent.

Speaker 13 (29:52):
Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
That's Jackson Dart.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
The player press conferences are brought to you by a
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Jackson Dart in the game finishes seventeen of twenty five
for one hundred and ninety five yards, one touchdown, no interceptions,
and on the ground thirteen carries for fifty eight yards
along of twenty and a rushing touchdown. We have a
lot to discuss from what Brian Dablon and Jackson Dart said,
We'll do that and a whole lot more quick bonus

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be right back. Giants defeat the Eagles thirty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 5 (30:31):
Dart and shotguns Sat drops back to throw the States.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Now he's gonna rundle it puts in the fifteen to
the ten to the five touchdown.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Giants tacks a dark.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
Twenty yard touchdown ron and for the first time since
two thousand and nine, the Giants have scored a touchdown on.

Speaker 22 (30:49):
The opening drive of the game and three consecutive games.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
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Speaker 1 (31:10):
Uh they spied him, didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
He ran right by the spy for the touchdown again
gave the Giants that early score Thursdray game. As Bob
mentioned as he runs for the touchdown, I did not
catch the do do do do live?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Bob, where did that come from. That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Jackson Dark.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Jackson, my three year old was upset with Davy Shark
for about eighteen months of his life, by probably about
half his life, so I definitely know the do well.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
If you watch the soccer show too, then it was Jamie.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yep, that's right, all right, tiky Jackson Dart.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Let's start with what Dabel said about him. You could
tell fighting the urge to just rave about how much
he loved Jackson Dart.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
He does, yes, but he always every bit.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Of credit for him and and and mock all those
that doubted his his decision.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
But he kept trying to sneak in yes, but he
got help from his teammates.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Good team win this and that, I think, and he
uses the famous parcels on and let's not put a
you know, gold jacket on.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Him yet, but he's a long way from that. But
he can tell he's very excited, so he's he's headed
in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
And the one thing you appreciate most with Jackson Dart
is that last week was very mistake riddled, and it
was everybody. It wasn't just Jackson Dart, but it was
very mistake riddled. And the only way to recover from
that is to have a strong leader who can, as
we just said in the pregame, forget it, dump it away.
It's not it's not relevant to anything that you do

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going forward. And people are gonna talk about it, and
that's what Jackson Dart was alluding to. They're gonna say
all of these things that don't mount to a hill
of beans to what actually is happening on the field.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
And so you give him credit because they flushed.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
It and then came back and put out a solid
performance this afternoon. It gets a really good, albeit flawed
Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Team and Bob Dable. Two things that I want to
point out.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
One how important I think the word that Dabi used
was helpful. The quarterback that can run can be to
an offense. And then he also talked about the ability
to make loose plays where, all right, a guy gets
knocked off a route, somebody's not open, the defense schemes
it up properly, so the route combination doesn't work, somebody
open like you're supposed to, someone on the offensive line

(33:23):
doesn't block somebody. It's his ability, though, to make those
loose plays turn a potential negative into a positive. That really,
to me has been the biggest difference since he's been
named the starter.

Speaker 14 (33:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
I mean there's a numerous plays in the first halter
that would have been sacks if there was another quarterback
in there. And again, it's not a knock on Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson did it for over ten years.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
He did exactly what Jackson Dart's doing now. Correct.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yes, just father time.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Father Time's undefeated and Jackson dark kept plays alive, even
on the incomplete pass to one Bill Robinson where he
scrambled that instead of it being a twelve yard loss
on a sack, you didn't lose any yardage on the play.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
It turned out to be incomplete. And then you know
the run.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
It didn't count officially as a red zone touchdown because
the ball was on the twenty.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yard line, but you know that was third and eight.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yeah, you went from third and eight, you know, maybe
not getting anything and sending out a field goal to
the dude ran it in for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
How many third and like six or seven pluses did
they convert today, Bob, Because they felt like there were
more long ones than usual that the Giants managed to
convert in this game, and I know you keep track
of them.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
That's why I asked.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
They were three for three on third and ones. There
were three for four on between two and four yards.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
They were four for five between five and eight yards,
really good. They hit a third and eight a third
and eight, a third and six a third and five
fell on a third and seven. That was and I
think that was the Theo Johnson drop right and.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Then and he's only two failures on eight yards or
less on third down?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Is that what they did with the math.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
In contrary, the Eagles didn't barely converted any of.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
The third well, they were one for nine. Yes, they
were oh for one on third and one, oh for
one on third and three. They hit a third and
seven fell down a third and six a third and
seven third and eight, And they were zero for three
on nine plus. The Giants were one for four on
nine plus. You really don't count the last one. When
you're taking a knee, you'll more than happy to let
that one go.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
And one of those was the Russell Wilson play.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Correct and then but they hit a third, they hit
their first third and long, they hit a third and twelve,
and you know the fast start thing man, that's real.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
It is.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
You got to go back to two thousand and nine
and how.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
About the fact that they scored more than seven points
in the first quarter. Amazon put that stat up the
second longest streak in NFL history. The Giants had gone
eighty one straight games in the regular season in which
they did.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Not score more than seven points in.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
The first almost five full seasons.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, it's it feels shocking when you say that, but
it's been the reality the Giant fans have lived with
for the last half a decade.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's playing from behind. Then every game, well it's well, they're.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Playing from behind, but it just felt ineptitude with an
offense moving into positive territory much less once you got
into the red zone. And that's all changed because of
some of this youth infusion that they've gotten the last
couple of years. And it's you can't help but feel
a static about it.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Now. They still have a lot of work to do.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
It's still not a team that's gonna be competing perennially
for playoff bers, but you feel excited about where this
team can go, especially getting a big win like this
on a short week at home against a rival who
you have not been able to beat.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
And think about it too, like, I mean, the last
two home games, right, you get off to the fast start.
The fan base, rightfully so has been absolutely battered over
the last five, six, seven, eight nine years at home.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
You give them a reason to get into it, right,
they didn't. I mean, how many years was it? Are
they gonna win a game at home?

Speaker 14 (36:58):
Right?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Are they gonna win a Vision game at home? And
the answer for a lot of that that was no.
But this year feels different and it is different. None field,
the forget feel, forget the emotion of this. This is different.
This team is different. You see the leadership starting to
take shape. And obviously we're focused primarily on Jackson Dart
because we always focus on the golden haired quarterback. But

(37:20):
I gotta tell you, Brian Burns is putting together a
dpoy type of year with his sacks up, his seven sacks,
seven sacks, his influence on this team, his aggressiveness with
which he attacks opposing defenses, and there is an energy
that comes from him.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Now. They don't get home as enough.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
As a lot of people I think would hope, especially
with those three great pass rushers and Dexi in the middle.
But I feel like this defense is also just moments
away from.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Being consistently really good.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
And for two weeks in a row, we've seen them
against the Saints, ben but don't break just to kick,
allow them to kick field goals. And then this week
slow down what should be an explosive offense in the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, and Eagles started fast.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
The first half was not what you wanted it to be,
But then the Eagles had just six first downs in
the second half of this game, So they did a
really nice job slowing down that Eagles offense.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Yeah, and the tackling was so much better in this game. Yeah,
they missed a couple early, but they rallied the ball
in appropriate third down situations. They allowed to pass in
the middle, and then every rallied to the ball forced
to punt. You know, they played, you know, they got
They played good special teams. Other than the missed extra point,
they hadn't they had them pinned a couple times on

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kickoff return.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Jamie Gillen did a good job for the second except
for the first one. But we have to bring this
up because I was surprised last week when Jamie Gillen
was kicking off against the New Orleans Saints. And then
that first kickoff you saw it. Basically it was spinning sideways.
It was the boomerang care it.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Wasn't a traditional kickoff, and what are they doing? And
then you realize that kickoff returners aren't used to catching
balls like that, and so they get flummoxed a little
bit and they end up fumbling him and dropping them around.
There were a couple of them that happened in this
game today up twenty to seventeen was the first one,
and then obviously after the last touchdown. Yeah, basically couldn't

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catch them. You can't catch them, and so he kicks
them right at the sideline. You have to catch it
because if you don't, and it goes into the end zone.
The balls at the twenty because he's kicking them short
of the end zone, and so these guys go to
catch the balls, they fumble them because their eyes are
looking forward trying to go get a return, and they
muff them.

Speaker 18 (39:31):
So.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I don't know whose idea it was to go that route,
and it's one that hasn't been replicated in a lot
of NFL teams right now, but Jamie Gillen has created
something on the kickoff. That has become a weapon. When
you can pin a good offense back inside the ten consistently,
that you're winning. You're winning half the battle of stopping
offenses from getting the scoring position.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
And the coverages have been really good, punt coverage and
kickoff coverage. You know they're winning on special teams. And
when you're playing the champs, and we talked about the
Eagles of block two field goals one return for a
touchdown against the Rams. Against the Bucks, they blocked the
punt early in the game. They went up seven to
nothing on a punt return, block punt return for touchdown.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
So you won special teams tonight. Actually you won in
all three phases.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
No doubt.

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seventeen at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 5 (41:03):
Dark in a shotgun set Skataboo to his right, takes
the snap four man rush steps up, keeps one down
the right side for little Jordan Humphrey.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
Bus up and makes a catch up the twenty one
yard line. Those of fifty to fifty balls playing above
the numbers.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
That's why they brought him up. He just gave him
a chance with that pass.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Bob empty set for Dark, working on a hard account
re receivers flashed out to the White, takes the shotgun
snap back to throw, blinds the pocket.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
He's under pressure. Bounces now to his White.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Throws it to the sideline, hoping he's Robinson cruns out
of a tackle down the right sideline puts its side at.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
The five for the dutchdown.

Speaker 7 (41:47):
Kwandel Robinson working magic for thirty five yards.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
And I wanted to play. Those two players are back
here on Giant's X point. Giants to beat the Eagles
thirty four to seventeen, and Bob I mentioned this takt
happen time, and I wanted to bring it up to you.
Last week we saw the Giants receivers come up small
for their quarterback. But in the first half of this game,
we had two plays. One basically a throw up heave

(42:13):
by Jackson Dart to little Jordan Humphrey that he came
down with on a contested catch to gain thirty plus yards.
And then you had a completion to Onondoll Robinson that
should have been a twelve yard catch first down. Nice throw,
nice you know, creating extra time by Dart and everything
like that for the first down, but he breaks the tackle,
runs an extra twenty something yards, ends up scoring a touchdown.

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That's the ten Brian Dable talked about helping the rookie quarterback.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
That's the type of help.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
You need from your playmakers, who said perfect, No, we
had passes later in the game. You mentioned the theo
Johnson went over the middle. He didn't come up with,
But those are the types of big plays where Dark
got the help from his wide receivers that he needed
to give the Giants some early momentum.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
In this game.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Yeah, I mean it was a jump ball to little
Jordan Humphrey and he's bigger, and you know on he
didn't try to catch it with his body as we've
seen too many times before. He went up and he
went and reached up and grabbed it its highest point
with his hands and secured it. Hey, you heard my
call on the Jandell Robinson. I mean, first of all,

(43:17):
that's a broken play, dark scrambling, flushed out, looking, looking looking,
finds his open guy and again little Jordan Humphrey throws
the key block at the five yard line to enable
Wandell Robinson to get in. I know, he's much beligned.
I'm rooting for him. I thought he was gonna get
his first touchdown tonight. I mean, Jalen Hyatt had three

(43:38):
catches for what twelve yards or whatever it was, but
his first catch of the year was not an easy
kill to catch correct r And by the way, the
one that he didn't catch, I think it wasn't worth challenging.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
But I think he actually caught it.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
It was close and he drew.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
You know, it's like that was a big DEPI he
dr correct It's it's it's hidden yardage right, it's it's
stuff that does not show up on anybody stat Ledger.
But he drew a pass interference. He whipped his guy,
he gave him a he gave him a stutter, and
he went and that guy had to interfere with him
or else it would have been an easy touchdown catch.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
And look Tikey.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
We talked about the last two weeks how this team
would replace my league neighbors. We said they wouldn't be
able to do with one guy, would have to be
a team effort. It was that weight today and the
fact that they were able to take advantage of a
hindered and beat up Eagle secondary I think is a
good sign.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Does that mean they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Go you know, uh, you know rough shot on the
Denver Broncos raft one of the best defenses in football.
Probably he's not gonna go one on one against Patrick
Chuchan Junior all game. But the fact that you can
do that against the team that's missing quitting on Mitchell,
you know, somewhere in the second quarter with Dory Jackson
and Killy Ring go out there.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
That's what you have to do. That's where you start, right,
You start by winning the matchups you're supposed to win.
Then we can see what you can do.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
When you're play an infear and opponent. You don't have
mercy on them, you don't feel sorry for them. You
just you go beat them, and you know, you know,
back to that Jalen Hyatt pass interference call, I mean,
kyllye Ringo is he's a young player who knows what
is his career is ultimately going to be. But he
got beat and and Jalen Hyatt by outracing him basically

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speed out of that little stutter go that forced him
to grab his inside arm yet which drew the pass
interference penalty. Now, was it a little bit tiggy tech maybe? Yeah,
But so was the one on Paulson Adebo and the
non call the push off offensive pass interference what it
should have been on aj Brown a couple of plays
later was was also a bad non call.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
So the calls aren't what they are.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
But the reality is that little Jordan Humphrey, Wandell Robinson
Jalen Hyatt, when given their second chances, obviously because last
week they kind of fell short of that Little Jordan
Hmphrey wasn't even wasn't even active. They lived up to
the moments and an I've been saying this for a
couple of weeks now, and a lot of this comes
from watching the Yankees and the Mets and these guys

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getting in their moments and they're you know, getting ready
in the postseason and either coming through or not.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I'm big on moments. I'm big on.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
A memorable moment is so lasting in people's minds that
it will define you. And I think the one thing
that I love about Jackson Dart is he's crushing every.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
One of these moments.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
One thing I love about Cam Scataboo is that he's
crushing all of these moments, and I think that becomes infectious,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
And so with us.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
When little Jordan Humphrey finally gets his chance after not
being active all season long, he capitalizes on his moment
after false starting and making it third and twelve. So
I love the infectious nature of these young players on
this team.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
And we will get to Scataboo in a little bit,
but we do have Wan Though Robinson audio from downstairs.
He was part of some of those really big plays.
He led the Giants in receiving in this game. By
the way, six catches, eighty four yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Let's listen to one though. Robinson downs.

Speaker 23 (47:00):
You know, we just came into work and obviously we
didn't We don't think anybody really believed in us. About us,
so just goes to show we just got to sleep
together and go out there and play football on Sunday.

Speaker 10 (47:09):
Your early touchdown, it was a big one down the sideline,
made a nice move, got.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
A really good block for little Jordan, hopefully two inside
of the five. I know he had to appreciate that.

Speaker 13 (47:18):
Mm hm oh yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
I mean Lja he does everything right.

Speaker 23 (47:21):
Even in the weeks that he wasn't playing, he was
premiering like he had to play, and when he got
his when he got his chance, he made the most
of it. And I'm really decided for Ursay to day.

Speaker 10 (47:30):
And so Fabers was down for a couple of weeks,
Slayton goes down. Everybody's looking at the wide receiver room
and saying, what's up with that?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And you guys answered the bell today?

Speaker 13 (47:38):
How did you do it?

Speaker 23 (47:40):
Like I said, we went into work and came in
with a little bit of a chip on our shoulder.
Nobody believing in us, thinking that we could do anything,
and you know, went to work with Jackson and he
had all the confidence in the world, that all the
competence in the world and must to go out there
and do our job.

Speaker 10 (47:53):
So we only had one job through this week. In practice,
it was a short week. But yet somehow he and
you guys, did you spend extra time together, extra film room,
extra meetings? What was the magic that allowed this.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
To happen today?

Speaker 23 (48:06):
Like I said, we just locked in in those walkthroughs
and all that meeting time and just talking through with
Jackson about everything. And you know, I think he actually
helped Lja and stuff whenever he was working with Jackson
in the summer and stuff like that too, So they
were a little they were already familiar together and for
my sake, it was just making sure that I was
just on the same page with him and Benope.

Speaker 10 (48:25):
All right, finally, what is this offense got going for it?
One scatter group gets that ball rolling downhill and starts
piled it away to the defense.

Speaker 23 (48:33):
I mean, it's it's great whenever we can run the football.
I know, as a receiver sometimes people don't think that
we like to run the football, But I promise it
helps us so much, and I'm glad that it's gott
be out there telling that thing like that.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
So we d thanks for you chiming. Yes, sir, thanks,
that's one of though.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Robinson downstairs and guys again we mentioned Robinson stat line,
Humphrey went four for fifty five and that's what you're
gonna need out of this wide receiver group as you
move forward here and the defenses get a little bit tougher,
and you know, they talk about the short week, and
I'll be honest, going into this week, a short week

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for Jackson Dart not having a real practice, and we
know the personnel of the Eagles on defense.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
There's there's flaws and there's guys that are hurt there
out of full strength.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
They also had a short week off of a tough
loss to the Denver bro For Dark.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
To do this against the defensive coordinator like Vic Fangio,
who might be the best defensive coordinator in football, he
might be, he might be. For him to do that
against him, five touchdowns on a short week, Yeah, that's
very impressible.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Well, I think one of the things that Jackson gives
you is this, you're almost scared to blitz and Dogum,
you're you're you're almost scared to come after it?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Is you open the gaps right?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Well, exactly if you if you take a bad rush
a lay and he's gonna pull it down and run.
But he also it gives you somebody who's man the
man covered somewhere. And so we saw that a couple
of times. It was a I think it was a
third down throw to THEO Johnson where pressure was coming
right in jackson darts face. He didn't shy away from it.
He stepped kind of into it and threw that little

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was a little short out.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, that was a great.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Corner to THEO Johnson, just over the defender who was
kind of stuck in the mud because he had a
two way go on him. THEO had a two way
go on him, and and he made a he ran
a great route and Jackson stood in, took a hit
and put it.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
We're exactly where he wanted to.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
So if I think he's gotten to the point where
he's unafraid of pressure, right, he's unafraid of Oh no,
what the heck do I do if if they bring
an extra man, because he knows that somebody is going
to be open and if not, he has the athleticism
to escape it and create plays off schedule.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Is very, very impressive. All right, let's get the camp Scataboo.
He was downstairs as well. Uh, for the folks that
are listening, maybe there in the car he did.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
There's a lot of people in the car, A lot
of them, I guess, a lot of Eagles fans. Taken
a lot of grief from Giants fans, and it's been
like over a decade, leaving the stadium where Giant fans
can ras him a little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
So obviously they're not being The TV post game on
Amazon Prime tonight they had Bill Jackson, Dart and Cam
Scataboo live on the post game show, and camp Scattaboo
took off his pads to go on the show and
basically ripped his under t shirt off whole Cogan style
flexed for the crowd and did and chest bumped also
a shirtless Ryan Fitzpatrick. I believe if I saw the
video on Instagram correctly, and he did his old you know,

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Rick Flair style woo thing, he was rather excited. And
then he talked to Paul Datino and the rest of
the media in the locker room, so let's listen into
that conversation.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
It was fun.

Speaker 20 (51:31):
I caused myself the penalty that you know, took some
yards away from me that i've seen them broke, broke
the hundred yard mark.

Speaker 13 (51:37):
But we played hard.

Speaker 20 (51:39):
And the effort to the guy or props to the
guys up front for all the effort they gave me.
And you know this team, they battled till the end.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
That's what matters.

Speaker 15 (51:47):
Did you sense this spark you give this team with
your running style and now just your production.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Too, Yeah, I feel it.

Speaker 20 (51:53):
But there's a spark that comes from a lot of
guys too.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
You know, Jackson brings a spark.

Speaker 20 (51:56):
Those guys that in the receiver room that stepped up
today and made some great catch up, some huge catches
on third down, and you know, continuing to build is
what we need to do, and play as a teams
play eleven guys are on the field at once, and
we all have to play together and everyone has some
perfect to execute, So props all of them and great
job today.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
So it's pretty prom for this team offensive.

Speaker 10 (52:17):
But today you guys should really fools jumps to getting
your supper bowlers.

Speaker 20 (52:21):
Yeah, did you do you think it was a problem
last week too, or did we we handed the ball over?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Right?

Speaker 13 (52:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (52:26):
Yeah, So I think that was the big thing we
we fixed. We fixed the red zone a little bit
the last two weeks, and last week we kind of
just handed the ball over.

Speaker 13 (52:33):
So we killed ourselves there and shot ourselves on the foot.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
But you know, this week we was proved that.

Speaker 20 (52:38):
We fixed it a little bit, and you know, we
were gonna continue to do what we can the best
we can at the best point at the you know,
the crucial time in the game.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
What's the feeling being the defending Super Bowl champions?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, it was so convincing. Later, it's been awesome.

Speaker 20 (52:50):
You know, Like I said, it's it's a good team win.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
They were the super Bowl champs last year.

Speaker 20 (52:54):
You know, there's a whole new season this year, so
it's it's hard to win twice in a row. So
props to them. They've they're great football team. You know,
we see them in another week, week and a half
or two weeks. I decided to play them again. But
like I said, you know, this is a season that
we need to keep continuing.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
To build on.

Speaker 20 (53:09):
We're two and four right now, and there's a long
season ahead of us.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Do you you mentioned you didn't get to one hundred?

Speaker 13 (53:13):
You were you are you upset by that? Yeah, I
mean I don't really care.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
You know, we won the game.

Speaker 13 (53:18):
That's what matters the most.

Speaker 20 (53:20):
These guys know, that's what matters the most to us,
To me as a person, as long as we win
the game, that's how That's when I'm happy. I could
have for twenty five yards and zero touchdowns and still
been happy that we won.

Speaker 15 (53:29):
So the touchdown that it was, it was ruled short,
and then, you know, do you think you.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Know I knew I was in.

Speaker 20 (53:35):
Yeah, I knew the first time I reached it and
I was in. I kind of fought extra just in
case they did call me short. But I had a
really good feeling I was, and I kind of turned
and looked and seen that, you know, I was across
the line.

Speaker 10 (53:46):
Kay went talking about how much you energized this offense.
How much does Jackson Dart energize? You ever rested this
offense as well?

Speaker 13 (53:53):
I mean, he does a great job.

Speaker 20 (53:54):
You know, he likes he's a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
It's a very competitive quarterback that knows what to do
with them all in the right times. He can use
his legs.

Speaker 13 (54:02):
He does a great job just you know, being the
general on the field.

Speaker 20 (54:05):
And props to him and props to the guys around
him that, you know, help him, help him be who
he is.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Stick you ahead with the injury tent there.

Speaker 20 (54:14):
I was making sure that Jackson wasn't you know, hurt
anybody in.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
The injury tent. You know, he's he's a he's a
he's a dog. He wants to be back on the field.

Speaker 20 (54:22):
I knew going over there, I needed to cal him
down a little bit because I knew he was gonna
be on fire.

Speaker 10 (54:26):
You know.

Speaker 20 (54:26):
I was trying to go over there before you know,
the drive was over, trying to tell him, you know, relax, relax,
We're good.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
But you know I had to wait.

Speaker 20 (54:32):
And then when I went in there, you know, he
was a little he was a little fired up. But
we know we have to go through protocol and do
all that stuff to make sure we can get back
on the field. So I went in there and kind
of we're good man, we got you, we got.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
You, and uh, that's it, Tiki.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I know you want to comment on the way Cam
might address some of these questions that he might not
agree with.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Because there's an old cliche in sports with teams that
are good teams. And I remember this back when Ronde's
Tampa Bay Buccaneers in two thousand and two had John
Gruden as their head coach. And when I'd call Ronde
and have conversations with him, he like the way he
would be saying things about I don't know their games

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or whatever was happening with the offense or defense.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I'm like, man, this sounds like John Gruden. This doesn't
sound like you.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
And so when you listen to Daves speak after games,
he's often defiant and if you have had doubt, and
then he and the team I don't know succeeds despite
the doubts that.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Are around him. He will mock you, right, he will
call you out.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
And I just heard that with Camp'scatibo, And there's that
old cliche of teams take on the identity of their
head coach. Sometimes it's not a good thing, but in
this case, I think it's I think it is a
good thing because it almost feels like these guys are saying, screw.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
You, right, I don't care, that's what.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah, Like, I don't care what, but you think you're
not one of us. You're not in our locker room, right. Yeah,
we we had red zone trouble. What are you talking about.
We just turned the ball over, right, that's on us.
We fixed that and we score when we get in
the red zone. Now, don't take that old tired ass
narrative from the last five years and projected on this team.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Jackson Dart said the same.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
In the first two weeks it was not good, but
one Scott who got in the next week three and
went away. That was also the starting That was also
Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Jackson Dart has taken over that that the tired narrative
about the Giants has changed, and.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
You hear it and you feel it from the players.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I'm just talking about what there's what they're saying, and
there's a defiance to it, which I think is it's new.
Something I haven't heard from these guys from this team.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Now.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
It's a lot of different guys on this team. But
it's almost refreshing because having done this for as long
is I did it, it was two decades ago. But
the last thing you wanted to do was be defined
by someone who's never put a jackstrap, who's never been
in that locker room who has never fought and failed
and got up and tried again. And I feel like
this team is made of guys that believe that in

(57:17):
each other and they're gonna find a way no matter
what kind of adversity finds them.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
And Bob, I'll just say this too, Jackson Thar wasn't
here when the Giants won seven and twenty seven against
the Eagles, Cam'scadam. It wasn't here when they couldn't win
a division game last year. So they don't know about
any of this stuff. They just want to beat.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
The teams that they're facing.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
It doesn't matter, it's inaccessible to them, it doesn't matter, correct, right, They.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yeah, they don't care that the Giants were three and
twenty one in prime thim since twenty eighteen as far
as they're concerned, right, Like they're own one in prime time.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
And now they're one on one in prime time, exactly right.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
They don't care that they were owing three or that
the Giants had not won on Thursday night football since
Tom Coffin was the head coach in twenty fifteen, eighth
straight Thursday Night five ball losses. They didn't care about that.
This this was their first experience. And you're right because
Jackson Dart maybe in a friendlier way, but.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
He took on the question or two.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Yeah, he's like, no, well, we kind of thought we
fixed moving the ball last week, right, because they did
move the ball up and down the field, but they
were dropping passes, fumbling the football and giving away opportunities.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
But it's not like they warn't.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Let's put it this way, every one of their turnovers
last week was in plus territory.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
It's not like they were turning it over at their
own twelve.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Right after the couple of turnovers in a row, they
get down the fumbles in a row, they're down, they're
only like the fifteen yard line, right, and sat fumble
the eleven.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
So they're down in the red zone down fourteen or
nineteen to fourteen, and they they're about to go in
and score and take the lead, and they fumbled it
away again. So it's not about them not moving the ball.
This is not that team any any longer. And it's
because of the youth infusion that has been i don't know,
just dominant and in ways that we haven't seen from
a Giants offense in a lot of years.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Yeah, and then defensively, the tackling was good. The rallying
to the ball. Give Danane Belton, who takes a lot
of arrows. Dame Belton forced that fumble. I mean, there's
still seven minutes on the game. You're going against the
Super Bowl champions. They're moving it down the field, punches
the ball out, Phillips recovers it. I thought Thibodeau played
a pretty good game sealing the edge. You know, if

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you look at the stat sheet, Abdul Carter, there's no
stats in this game.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
He set the edge a couple of times, really nice, exactly.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
That's why that's why stats in football are very difficult.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Like you have to watch the game. You can't just
look at.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
The stat sheet because lies, damn lies, and statistics correct.
Like Abdull Carter set the edge a bunch of times,
funneling it to his teammates. There was a couple of
pressures that Burns got because Burns was on the inside
of Abdull Carter, and they ran a little game and
somebody had to pick what and that means somebody was loose.

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So the stat sheet will say because I look at
it I'm like he was not credited for a tackle.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
He was not your tackles, well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Not credited for an assist, not credited for anything. It's
like he didn't exist. Well, ask the Philadelphia Eagles if
our duel Carter existed tonight because they saw him out there.
So you gotta be careful with like some of these stats,
especially defensive stats in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, no question about it. Let's take a quick time out.

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Hurts back rost my past, intercepting along the right sideline,
racing off the sideline.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
For the Giants, it's Cornell Flat.

Speaker 7 (01:01:25):
Here's the forty thirty and knock that am out in
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Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Two Hurts brick Cup for the first line this year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Cordell flats the same.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Cordell Flatt stepping in front of a late and not
a throw without a velocity by Jalen Hurts towards the sideline,
jumps a little out on I believe it was a
cover zero snap and brings it back the other way.
He couldn't quite get the touchdown thanks to Saguon Barkley,
but a really big defensive play by Flott. He talked
to the media downstairs in the locker room by the

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welcome back to Giants extra point Giants defeating thirty four
to seventeen. He was corte flop talking about that big
play and probably a lot more.

Speaker 16 (01:02:04):
First inner chapanis thrown all year. Really he doesn't throw interceptions.
What does it mean to get one like that?

Speaker 24 (01:02:10):
And that's a lot just a good quarterback offense. And
you know I came through and the team they need
the most and you got.

Speaker 13 (01:02:16):
Us the dope.

Speaker 20 (01:02:17):
So on the sideline after that, what did Scatter do
say to you?

Speaker 24 (01:02:22):
As he was more than saying something, I felt the
rough of me out and I was just like, all right, Scat,
let me go right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
And then he came through trying to pay you on
the head and exit.

Speaker 24 (01:02:31):
Yeah, Scatt just aggressive, dude, You know hey, just be
doing stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:02:36):
That's just got is the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Energy of the Scatt and Jackson of those two guys.

Speaker 13 (01:02:41):
Does that help this team?

Speaker 24 (01:02:42):
That's different, list contagious. You know, Jackson and Scat like
they two different guys. They don't even feel like rookies
in locker room. You know, we need the energy and
help us all out as a team.

Speaker 16 (01:02:52):
I wonder if that you say they don't feel like rookies,
but they are, which means they haven't been through the
tough times that you guys have, like all the losses
that could wear on you. I'm wondering if there's like
a Naiven pay in that that's refreshing to you guys.

Speaker 24 (01:03:06):
Yeah, it's refreshing us for sure. Well, like I said,
the enage is contagious, like you know what I'm saying,
and that they haven't felt that vibe or the energy
that we be having.

Speaker 13 (01:03:15):
And then the show, So.

Speaker 16 (01:03:18):
Is there anything to you make the biggest play maybe
of your career on the night the Giants give you
the confidence of you're out there every you're out there
every player.

Speaker 13 (01:03:26):
Yeah, coming into the game, you know, I was confident.

Speaker 24 (01:03:29):
I appreciate them forgive me the opportunity, and in my head,
I was just like, I gotta make the most of
you know, to stay out here, improved to my defense,
proved and my whole team and the coaching stuff that
I can do.

Speaker 16 (01:03:37):
That is that the kind of opportunity you've been waiting
for for four years? I mean, I don't want to
exaggerate now you're good, but it is.

Speaker 24 (01:03:43):
It is the opportunity I was waiting for, and I
made most of you knew.

Speaker 13 (01:03:46):
There wasn't gonna be a rotation tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Yeah, when did you find that out?

Speaker 14 (01:03:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Like they put the game they got.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
What's it like?

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Just you know, you've been through a lot of games
where this Giants fans have been leaving the stadium early.

Speaker 13 (01:04:01):
Just what's it like to to hear the different energy
in the stadium a team like that. That's fine that
they leave earlier.

Speaker 24 (01:04:07):
What we know about us that team, we're resilient, that
we're gonna fight to the end, especially the good it's
a good other teams, you know, and that's what we
have to do.

Speaker 16 (01:04:15):
How about the game wrecker Burns was tonight?

Speaker 24 (01:04:17):
Uh, he's always like that. You know, he's missedter relied.
But my eyes, you know, he always bringing that energy.
I'm like, hey, Burns, let's let's work together.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
And that's what we did.

Speaker 16 (01:04:25):
So Uh that on the interception gee, and it looked
like did you did you grasp it right away? Were
you wrestling for it a little bit?

Speaker 24 (01:04:34):
I just that's it out that I had to capitalize
on that moment and I did.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Did you think you were gonna score?

Speaker 13 (01:04:39):
I did, actually faster than I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
But yeah, you played with them? Yeah, I know, I know,
but just ran aside like that.

Speaker 13 (01:04:45):
He actually got wheels, So go for him.

Speaker 24 (01:04:47):
I wish you would let me have It's at.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Least you didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
You didn't get tackled back quarterback like that. I was
gonna do that.

Speaker 14 (01:04:54):
I was gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
You just take us through what what the interception? I
missed that part.

Speaker 24 (01:04:59):
Just take us through ude or something, yo, just football
i Q.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
I was focused.

Speaker 24 (01:05:05):
I was out in when I had that cut split.
I kind of figured that route was coming and I reacted.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
To it at least like.

Speaker 24 (01:05:13):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's that's who we you know, proud
ourselves as as a defense too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
And we came on executed, so so good.

Speaker 25 (01:05:23):
What was on the sideline of course after the interception,
but is there a point where you're like, oh, we
got this so much energy?

Speaker 24 (01:05:29):
Man, it was contagious the offense filter. They came out
to XQ to do the thing, and that's what we
lived for.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
So and guys are really big play by Jack by
Cordell Flott, and it looks seems like he's you know,
figured out or been handed the starting role at corner
after rotating with the Anty Banks. A lot of Banks
just played three snaps in this game. Flop played every
snap but three, and just a huge play to jump
that route.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah, and again they started the season with Cordell Flott
being the starter and Deontay Banks was coming in as
the dime corner when they would have you know, sixty
b's on the field, and now they've they've limited that. Really,
I think they only played a few snaps of dime
and that's also when Banks is on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
But he he made a humongous play.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Now, obviously it was just a bad throw bye by
Jalen Hurts because it was it was a soft throw.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
But there was also a play earlier in the third
quarter where he kind of got Lucky Court a flat.
I'm not positive what the coverage is. It was either
one or cover three and he just busted on it.
It's a single high. His responsibility to be deep on
that side of the field. We're on looking at the
dots right now, I'm looking at the other side and
it feels like it was three. He just he just

(01:06:41):
busted on and DeVante Smith was I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Think it's one look because Phillips is carrying the slot
across the field, So I think that's just cover one
and he'll cover one and he's looking in the backfield.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
He must have thought it was cover two or something
like that. He's playing whatever it was. He was wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Smith was wide open third and six from the from
the Eagles own eleven yard line, and Jalen Hurts sailed him.
If he connects on that, if he underthrows it, it's
a touchdown, or if it's on point. But luckily Jalen
you know, or Jalen Hurts overthrow that, because otherwise he.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Was beat bad. John.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
You know, you said they gave him the job.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
He earned it. I take it back.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
You're right, the job, and and he's been better than Banks.
I mean, it's got to call it what it is.
He's been better than Banks. Just commits too many penalties
and guesses a lot, and he's gonna have to figure
ou way to improve that. And listen, you know this
is also like you're going against DeVante Smith and A. J. Brown,

(01:07:45):
so like for them to feel comfortable enough going with
him full time because Banks, while he had three snaps
on defense, Yeah, in this game. Now you got to
keep it rolling, man, you gotta keep it rolling because
you're gonna have to deal with Courtland, Sutton and Mims
Junior and the receivers that the Broncos have de Troy
Franklin next week. So you know it's never gets easy,

(01:08:05):
but kudos to him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Here's the thing about Flot. I've always liked Flot. The
problem with Flot is when he gets going, can he
stay healthy?

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Correct?

Speaker 18 (01:08:19):
That is?

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
You know he's a small ye see that guy walks.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Put it this way, if he goes into like the
local grocery store, nobody has him as an NFL play.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah, you know you would think he's a shooting guard
or a point guard in basketball, right, He is that
type of body type.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Yeah, so Canny stay healthy because I think he's He's
always shown ability, but health is you know, availability is
a big factor in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
No question about it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
They already got the one end zone a race, I know,
and they're halfway done with the with the midfield logo. Bob,
you're gonna have to you have to go take a
little nap before six am flight here, So just give
me your final thoughts here on the game. You can
if you want to look ahead a little bit to Denver,
you can, and then he and I will keep going
taking your calls.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
It's hard, well, you know, it's hard to look ahead
to Denver because Denver has to play in London on
Sunday morning against the Jets, and injuries are a big
factor in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Obviously, they're a good team, they're well coached.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
They just be Philly last week.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Yeah, scored eighteen points.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Top four defense.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
They got a really good defense, maybe not as good
as they were last year.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Defensively, they don't get to the quarterback as well as
they did last year, but they got good corners.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
They did last week against the Eagles, though they had
six x Yeah against the Eagles. But on the season,
you're right, Bob, it's not the same kind of pressure
that forced teams to break.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
And Bo Knick's not playing as well either.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
They definitely he's definitely changed a little bit, but it's
still showing Peyton led team correct.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
And beware of Sean Payton led teams because he's got
a lot of wins in the NFL. But look, enjoy this.
Giants take a lot of crap. Fans have taken a
lot of heat, and this is one that you gotta
just you gotta cherish it. I mean, the last two
home games. They went wired war against the undefeated Chargers,

(01:10:02):
and they did surrender the lead in this game. But
if you were looking at this as a boxing match,
the Giants controlled the fight, sure right, they controlled the fight,
They controlled the line of scrimmage, and they played a
heck of a game in all three phases.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
And they deserve to take a little bit of a bow.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
I mean, you don't relax, you don't rest on your laurels,
but you don't have to get a weekend off and
some of the noise could stop.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
I mean, you know you're looking at it from his fans.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
Standpoints, like what could have been if you could have
just closed out the Cowboys game in the last twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Turned over five times a Saints when you had the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
You're three and three right now, and you don't feel Wow,
this is a non playoff season.

Speaker 8 (01:10:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Look, the statistics tell you it's very small, but at
one in four there actually is a chance to make
the playoffs. I doubt it's happening for the New York Giants,
but they don't think that. They're not worried about that.
In your mind, you have you have, you have what
how many games? Twelve games left? You're you're level eleven, yeah,
eleven the games is right, it's week six, eleven games left.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
You're you're trying to win them all. Just go win
the next one, right, that's all these guys. I bet
you have. The guys in lock them didn't even know
they were playing Denver next week. I'm serious. I bet
you they don't.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
They haven't looked at any tape on its fans don't realize, Like, guys,
I think I remember when you were playing. We talked
to you guys in the locker room like, hey, you know,
I know that you got this, but you know you
got next week. Most guys had no idea, no clue,
no idea. They didn't even know where the game was
head unless they were going back to their hometown where.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
They might have that circled or like London or something.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
You wait until the first team meeting, and then your
offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator tells you what's up, and
then you start digging into the the to the team.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Uh, it's ahead of you. But from now until I
will it's different.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
With the long bye week in the off week, they'll
look at it probably tomorrow or and then have the
weekend off, so they won't really start on Denver until Monday.
So it's a it's a it's a different scenario. They
need the break and they got something to be happy
about sitting in the mini bis and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
You know, I'm happy for I'm happy for the fans. Man,
it's been so miserable.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
You get a happy weekend to talk trash to Eagles
fans and it's.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
So miserable coming to games over the last you know,
five years or so for the most part of the
exception of the twenty two season and the last two
times you've come to this stadium. You watch them beat
the undefeated Chargers go wire to wire and you beat
a team that you never beat, and you beat them

(01:12:40):
in a game that matters.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
And it was convincing, and you beat the convincingly convincing,
especially after halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Nothing fluky about this win.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Not a game like at the end of the season
where they're just resting everybody and you're not going to
the You beat them when it mattered, and you beat
them in primetime on national TV for the whole nation.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
This seed absolutely that you are not the team that
they talk.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
About on all those Sports network TV shows every morning
and just railing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
You proved it to everybody. You proved it to other
teams in the league that you're for real. So yeah,
I don't think they're gonna win the Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
But it's really cool for the Giant fans to be
able to walk out of here and not have all
those people in green. And there were a lot of
them here, yes, chanting you know, fly Eagles Fly.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
You didn't get one of those today and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
No, you did not, you did not. Giant fans were
into it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Bobby, enjoy your air mattress and we will talk.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
To Tom with the giant sheets, the giant comforter, the
giant pillows. Got my giant headboard in the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
They look like they're for your eight ten year old.
It is I had that as a kid. And by
the way, New York sports fans needed this one tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
After the Yanks are knocked out of the playoffs, the
way the Jets are playing the Mets not making the playoffs,
New York sports fans needed this one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Give you a little positive for New York sports fan
Rangers four nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
In Buffalo tonight as a check with the Knicks did
in their preseason game against the Timberwolves.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
We're not showing, not Nikki Chuck.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
All right, let's take a quick time out. We'll come back,
close out the network and then we'll open up the
phone lines. We'll be right back. Giants again defeat the
Eagles thirty four to seventeen.

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Giants again defeat the Philadelphia Eagles thirty four to seventeen.
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(01:15:50):
to take your calls. At eight eight eight, eight toa
one zero, one to nine, Pauldatino was levitated up to
the booth.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I think he just took one leap from the field.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
And in his enthusiasm, managed to propel him through the
window and into the chair.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
It was pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I've got springs in my wing tips. Yes, Or was
it Cam Scatty who that just tossed you up here?
After you asking the Redzal question right after he tossed
his shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I got no problem with that. I will take a break.
We'll come back and break it all down. But again,
give us a call.

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Speaker 25 (01:16:28):
This is Brian Burns and you're listening to Giants football
on the fan w f A n and w f
A n f M New York.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Under Pressure's gonna get sacked back of the twenty yard line.

Speaker 7 (01:16:44):
Spiderman Bryan Burns get sacked number six on the season.

Speaker 22 (01:16:48):
Three receivers out to the left, Smith with Brown and
Dotson stacked left. Kerk takes the snat under pressure immediately
grand By Burns.

Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
That suck by Burns back of the thirty eight yard line.
Spider Man get stuff for two tonight at seven on
the season.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Two more sacks for Brian Burns.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
He had now seven this year as Bob pointed out,
welcome back to Giants extra point, John Schmuck, Tiki Barber,
We're joined by Paul Tatino. Giants defeat the Philadelphia Eagles
on Thursday Night Football thirty four to seventeen. Brian Burns
spoke to the media in the locker room. Let's listen in.

Speaker 8 (01:17:32):
Yeah, we came in, made our adjustments. You know.

Speaker 25 (01:17:34):
The first thing was when the guy did everyone got
to establish the run again. Had to make sure we
knocked that out because, like I say, Saguan is done
in the players and pretty much just change the picture
on Jaalen Hurston.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Try to make him process what we're.

Speaker 8 (01:17:45):
Doing, you know, So that was the main thing to do.

Speaker 13 (01:17:47):
Brian, is there, Uh, I'm sorry, No, you're good.

Speaker 16 (01:17:52):
Is there something to the idea that when you're a
veteran in the NFL and you've lost a lot of games,
it can wear on you and scataboo and scatter and
dark habit like they come from college and they just
expect to win. Is there something to that naivete or
innocence that rubs off on guys.

Speaker 25 (01:18:11):
Yeah, you know, the energy is patatious, Uh, scat and dark.
You know that playing fearless, you know, and that's something
I really respect. If you know, as they get older,
they they age well in this in this league, you know,
they'll make more calculated decisions.

Speaker 13 (01:18:25):
But right now, hey man, boss of the wall.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Jackson always a leader.

Speaker 13 (01:18:32):
What is like Kevin a rookie year who don't even
starting the leave a year? Are you guys look at
him as leader already?

Speaker 25 (01:18:37):
He has leading, he has leading qualities. You know he's
gonna be a leader soon, you know. But I like
I like that he's embracing the role. You know, you
know he's taking it. He's taking it with with a
chip on the shoulder, like he's not letting this down
and you know he's not coming at us like a
k cue stuff like Jackson still you know asks the best,
a lot of questions, a lot of guidance.

Speaker 10 (01:18:55):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:18:56):
You know that's something I can respect from jack and said,
you know, someone asked him it was just a statement,
and you said, absolutely is.

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
You know, we deep the defending champions and we're trying
to build something there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
What do you think if someone asked you that, you know,
it's a game. It's a game.

Speaker 25 (01:19:12):
It gets a division a division opponent and at the
end of the day, Like I said, every Sunday is
its own Sunday.

Speaker 8 (01:19:19):
You know a lot of people didn't have us sles
slided the.

Speaker 25 (01:19:22):
Winness you feel me so uh, it's a game that
defending champion stuff is cool, but it's the new year.

Speaker 8 (01:19:28):
You know, we're just trying to build and stack on
this woman and never got so fun.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
You brought that up that you know you weren't expected
to win this game.

Speaker 8 (01:19:34):
He kind of brought that up too. Is that how
much is that something you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Hear you guys that it's inevitable place and motivate you
at all, or to me, the.

Speaker 25 (01:19:43):
Outside knows is inevitable. It's just whether you're going to
allow it to affect your player or not. You're going
to hear, You're going to see it. You can't miss it,
you know what I'm saying. But this is whether you're
gonna allow it to affect what you do in the field,
And today I feel like we allowed it to push
us in a positive way.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
That's Brian Burns downstairs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Let's go to the phones at idiot Ita wait one
zero one nine and start off with NAS and Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Nas, what's going on.

Speaker 14 (01:20:12):
And what's up, guys.

Speaker 26 (01:20:13):
Just wanted to say I really appreciate all the content
you guys put out, you know during the week. Really
makes my drives really easy from work to commute and
appreciate it, you know. Yeah, definitely a Tiki and John.
Really appreciate both of you guys. And then also the
huge win today. But I'm just kind of looking at
just like the bigger picture here, just with this team

(01:20:34):
and just the way it's gelling. And you know, I
really grew up with those mid two thousands, you know,
Giants teams and just the passion in the heart of
guys like a mod Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs, and I
really felt like that was a really key characteristic that
was missing with the Giants and their teams, you know,

(01:20:54):
just in the past few years. And just looking at
Stataboo and looking at you know, Dar obviously and Brian
Burns and just kind of seeing just that attitude come back,
and that's just a characteristic that I think that's really
been missing with the Giants. And I'm really happy today
just with watching the game. Obviously it's enjoyable, but kind
of bringing me back to just what those scenes.

Speaker 17 (01:21:16):
Were and what we hope.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Yeah, you know, nas you know what I feel like
I hear you're saying, because it's because it happened, you know,
with the Tom Coffin the early part of the Tom
Coffin era and those mid two thousands where you just
stopped worrying about the same thing, the same ineptitude occurring,
And really it was because there was a youth makeover

(01:21:38):
there were you know, And just go back to those
last couple of questions, because you heard it in a
previous interview as well. They keep asking about is there
a naive eat naivete to these young kids? And I
don't like that word, because when you say someone is naive,
you're saying that there is there is a situation that
exists that they're not aware of. But what really is
occurring with these young kids Camp's Outaboo and Jackson Dart

(01:22:01):
and Abdul Carter. They're not trapped or constrained by the
institutional ineptitude of this team for the past decade. And
so what necessarily needs to happen for a team to
wash that nonsense away is to get younger, is to
tear down a roster. And we had this conversation a
couple of weeks ago, John one of this.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
One of the worst things that happened to Dave's regime
with Shane is that they had success in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
That was supposed to be a teardown year exactly. And
so you so you have a choice when your team
has been bad for a lot of years, you tear
you try to keep winning right now, or try to
you know, make something out of the carcass of the
dead animal that you're you're sitting on, or you just
throw it away, you rip it down. The Giants had success,

(01:22:51):
and they kind of believe that, hey, we're closer than
we thought we were.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
They decided the freaking times right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Let's try to let's try to build on the dead carcass,
and that that just doesn't you think about in Buffalo,
and a lot of people get upset when people referenced
what happened in Buffalo with Days.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
But that first year they didn't, i mean, had a
little bit of success and they kind of stripped it down. No,
they didn't, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
And then eventually it came back around because of youth,
people not trapped by the institutional ineptitude that I was
just alluding to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
And the Bills got better because you're not saddled with history.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
You're not trying to fight the ghost of teams that
had nothing to do with Cam Scattaboo or Jackson Dart
or Abdul Carter or any of the other Brian Burns,
all of that stuff. It doesn't matter to those guys.
But I keep feeling it keeps getting brought up by media,
it keeps being put front and center. But the reality
is this is a different team, right you feel it.

(01:23:43):
It's a different team. I know the coach is the same,
but the players aren't buying into that nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
And I appreciate that about them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
And I think one thing that I'm starting to hear
from players is they know that people are trying to
tie them to the past, and they're saying, that's not us,
that's not me. That don't try to lump me in
with the last decade of giant failures, because that's not us.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
And look, I think the veterans who are still the
leaders on this team, the Brian Burns is the dexter Lawrences.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Guys like that. They think these guys are just a
breath of fresh air.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Like Jackson Hard and Cam Scattabho are breaths of fresh
air and it's just a new energy. It's something new.
We talked about a tiki. We talked about it in
a week I guess that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Was a week four.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
We're like this, see feels like this is a brand
new season that's starting over, and the first three games
didn't happen. For these other players, they're probably like, for
a guy like Brian Burns, who is here, he's played
what twenty games until that quarterback chains got made, he's
probably like, well, those twenty games don't matter exactly. They're
a whole new guy, you know, that's gonna be quarterback

(01:24:47):
and maybe we can start something new. And look, they
haven't won all their games. There's been some bad games
in there too, like the one against the Saints. But Paul,
you've talked to the guys in the locker room. You've
been in there just like me. It is a bit
of a different feel with these younger guys taking a
much more prominent role on the offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 27 (01:25:05):
Well, you know, John, last year we often played stuff
on the postgame show and heard guys flat out angry, disgusted, furious,
because I think they felt that there was so much
going wrong that they couldn't handle.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
They saw the snowball coming from the outside end, and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
They wouldn't say, Paul, but I think deep within there
was a there was a here we go again mentality.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
And that was hurt, right. There was emotional and mental hurt.
And by the way, it's not fair to those guys,
but you have to move on from them, No.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
You have to.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
You absolutely have to, because as soon as that negativity
of here we go again starts to creep in and
it starts to take over the collective mentality of the team,
you're dead. Like this team doesn't have that because the
leaders are becoming the Brian Burns is the ABDA, Carter's
the young players, Jackson dart Camp's gataboo. So something goes

(01:26:00):
wrong like last week where they've turned them all over
five times in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
It's not oh, here we go again, it's like, how
do we not do that again? Sorry? Well, do you
know why?

Speaker 27 (01:26:11):
It's obvious that things are different because three of the
guys who were breathing more fire than anybody in that
locker room last year where Brian Burns, Dexter, Lawrence and
Darius Slayton every postgame when they lost, those guys literally
literally had flames shooting out of their ears.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
They were so angry at the losses and what was
going on to this team.

Speaker 27 (01:26:36):
And now even with the loss to Dallas, even with
the lost to New Orleans, you've heard Brian Burns on
the postgame, You've heard Dexter Lawrence on the postgame, shows
there is a controlled confidence about. We believe in these guys.
We believe in each other, and you know what, We're
gonna be okay somehow. And that's start. Contrast secifically from

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those two guys shows you the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Difference absolutely right. All right, let's go to Tim and Charleston.
He's up next day?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Tim? Hey, Tim?

Speaker 17 (01:27:08):
Hey John, Teky, Paul? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
What's up?

Speaker 17 (01:27:11):
Out of my outside patio? So I don't want to
talk too loud. I hope to give hear me a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Yeah, Tim, what's up?

Speaker 13 (01:27:17):
All right?

Speaker 17 (01:27:18):
Awesome? So I got a few points. I won't go
to road through quickly, so I'll take up a lot
of time. First of all, you know John, I'm always
run defense. That's what I'm all about. And after we
got gassed by Saint Kwamo for those first two runs.
We allowed under fifty yards of rushing the rest of

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the game.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Something like that.

Speaker 17 (01:27:42):
Yeah, the defense, you know, started a little shaky, only
one punt in the first half, and just got better
and better even in the first half, got better and
better and then just just completely dominated in the second half.
The the other thing other thing, man, I mean, I'm

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going to skip the point because I forgot it. But
one thing that we haven't heard about in a long time.
I don't hear it talked about it and it hasn't
been mentioned to night. Something that Bill Parcels used to
always talk about and going back in the day is
field position, field position. How many times did we start,

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you know, at our thirty five forty forty five yard
line that first kickoff, we kept the Eagles pinned down,
pinned down, and that just gives the defense such an edge.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
And we brought it up a little bit earlier, Tim
when we were talking about Jamie Gillen appreciate the call
and how he kicks off like his kickoffs are are
are unique, and I think both this week but also
last week a little bit are struggling with that sideways
like top of the spin and you get they were

(01:28:58):
pinned inside of the ten a couple of times because
of the mishandling of a kickoff.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
I remember when Brad Wing was here as a punter,
he had that boomerang punt and that's what it looks like, right, Well, it's.

Speaker 27 (01:29:07):
That whole Australian surge of kickscots who are doing that
stuff now?

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Now, Jamie, not Australian, just to no, no, but that
is a new trend. That guy should use it correct. Yes,
you know.

Speaker 27 (01:29:18):
We talked about this on Big Blue Kickoff Live during
the week joint against Shameless Plug Monday to Friday, twelve
thirty on Giants dot Com.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I'm Paul, are you with me Tomorrow's I can see
us tomorrow? I think it's John. I think it's me.
You can see us tomorrow. And I remember making a
big deal about a tiki this week.

Speaker 27 (01:29:31):
Did you know the Giants are number one in the
NFL in punt coverage and in the top five in
the NFL in kickoff I did not know that because
field position has been something that they stressed all the
way back in March.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
I was talking to Michael.

Speaker 27 (01:29:46):
Goldbriol, the Special teams coordinator back then, and he said
to me, we focused so much on those little free
agent signings that nobody talked about, and we're going to
make sure that we win special teams every single.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Week the Iron. I've been doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Two of those guys that were supposed to be the
commercial team siding on the field, Chris Bard and the
Beachers flatting.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Fact two of them got hurt. Got hurt. But this
was an emphasis.

Speaker 27 (01:30:10):
They felt that if it's one third of the game,
let's make sure we win that third every single week.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
And they've been doing it every week, you know, getting hurt.
I will choose not to have the not one third
of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
It's not doing I'm not doing it out I know
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
I wonder why the.

Speaker 27 (01:30:27):
Average start of Drive today Giants their own thirty six
and Eagles their own twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
A couple of those were inside the tend I wonder
how they decided on Jamie Gillen being doing the kickoffs, because.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
We actually Gobio talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
He said, in practice he was doing some of these things,
and they experimented with some of these kickoffs and they're like,
I maybe this can work.

Speaker 10 (01:30:49):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Look, I mean anything that you can do to make
a returner uncomfortable is an advantage tea.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
And he's actually putting at the right depth. That's what
he did so well against the Saints. He was putting
the ball right. We want to whether it was right
before the goal line and even put on I think
right inside the twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
That's what you're trying to do now.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
When these kickoffs right, you want to drop it inside
the twenty or right at the goal line, because if
it hits in the in the landing zone and then
goes into the end zone for a touchback, if it
gets down, it's at the twenty. Correct if it goes
if it lands in the end zone in the air,
then it comes out to the thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
And if you do those line drives that go just
inside the twenty, sometimes the returners can't.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Get to them and they skip, especially corass turf, they
skip across the grass and it can go in any way.
It's an it's an oblong ball, so you don't know
the way which way it's gonna better.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Earlier in your career you played some specials.

Speaker 27 (01:31:36):
Absolutely explain to the people the difference between fielding a
lefty kicker, whether it's a pundary kicker. Oh yeah, it's definitely,
and one of those ones that's twisting like these stupid
Australian kickers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
So luckily we didn't have Australian kicker. No you did not,
but you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
But when you it's just it's it's like trying to
catch a ball right handed versus catching a ball left handed.
Like you can probably do it, but you got to
really think about it if you're doing it left handed.
So as a right handed returner catching punts from a
right footed kicker, they're kicking across their body. So the

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ball to me is coming left to right right From
my perspective, it's coming left to right. If it turns over,
it's really easy because it's just like catching a pass,
but it's going left to right, and when I catch it,
it's going to come into my right arm. Right, I'm
going to try to, you know, get my body square
and catch it so that my right arm is my base. Now,
if it's a left handed punter or left footed punter,

(01:32:33):
the ball is spinning the opposite way, so it's coming
from my now right to left, and so to get
positioned in my mind, I always want to catch it
in my right arm because that's where I'm most comfortable,
but you actually have to catch it with your left arm,
and sometimes you just get confused.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Right, It's like, all right, I'm catching those my.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
Right arm, but I'll crap, I didn't get my body
positioned correctly and you end up muffing punts. And so
it is a difference when the ball is moving with
different types of spirals and trajectories based on how some
of these kickers kick.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Now, all right, let's go to Harvey and Dick Shills
before we take our final break.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Harvey, what's going on?

Speaker 18 (01:33:09):
How are you actually? I made that call about two
weeks ago when Gino wasn't ready for the game, and
that I don't understand why punters can kick field goal
and kicker and field goal kickers can punt. I mean,
Gillan was a rugly player.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
That's not what's doing though. Gillen's not kicking field goals
and back at him, he's not punting.

Speaker 18 (01:33:32):
No, yeah, but they should they basically I think they
only do is kick him. Look, I told you I
couldn't kick him football my life to better than on it.
But they should be able to do most. I think
that's better for the team, So you don't want to
talk for that position.

Speaker 27 (01:33:47):
They are completely different skills. They are and they can
involve different muscle groups. And because guys are trained as
specialists in today's game much more than they were years ago.
You're talking about the potential for a kicker or a
punter if they cross kick, they might actually hurt themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Harvey, Harvey, I want to make sure you get your
main point, and you want to think about the red
zone offense and the touch push.

Speaker 24 (01:34:10):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:34:10):
Absolutely, you know, you know last week good I've been
doing this for years. I thought it would be you know,
people wouldn't be interested. I got a couple of calls,
you know, when Comflin called it the green zone and
we call it the red zone. I organize it myself
that I call it the green zone and the blue
zone because the last five yards are completely different, and

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then those in an offensive line have an advantage. But
I think it should be done without the push, toush.
I think it should be a penalty. I think it's
an injury waiting to happen. It's difficult to officiate. I know,
Tiki Barba Tiki, you probably think, you know, because you're
running back, then it might be advantaged. I just thought
I think it should be eliminated in banned.

Speaker 17 (01:34:48):
I really do well.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
I mean, I think at some point the competition committee
will look at the touch push because I mean the
Eagles not only move the ball forward Cam Jurgens every
time before he snapped men false starts, they jump a
quarter of a second before the ball is snapped.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Obviously, that has to be called.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
The injury issue is is significant because of how they're
diving in at the ankles.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
And luckily and look like he's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
He was standing on the sile with this hombut on,
so it looks like so I think at some point
they will ben it. I think you're probably right it
it's innovative, it is unstoppable. It is by the way,
and this is unique. But give the Englos credit because
they they're the one team that can do it all
the time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Well, the other team they do it because every all
five of those guys and really it's seven, because they
do have the tight ends in there as well. They
are they are unbelievably well coached at keeping their heads
down and their asses up and driving with their with
the with the heels of the toes of their feet.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Whereas you watch other teams try to do the push push.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
You'll see one or two guys heads pop up and
jay and that's what and that's where you get that's
where you get beat.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
And Hurts's ability to squat like eight thousand pounds absolutely
part part of that too. I would imagine Paul I
was thinking about you as a ran the fourth straight
toush pushy side the head. I can imagined your head
just being ready to explode as.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Steam coming out of my ears.

Speaker 27 (01:36:17):
And I might add though, Dexter Lawrence and incredibly the
smile on his face in the locker room. Somebody asked
him about the Toush push and all you know, they
got you for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
He goes, Ah, they ran it a bunch of times,
and they didn't get anything on those first three. You know,
they didn't get in and they didn't get in, but
they got the first down on all fourth and one.

Speaker 27 (01:36:37):
Well, yeah they got they got a zero, a two,
a zero, and then the touchdown on the one. But
but he felt like they had actually done a good
job on the first three. Held up, Yes, I thought
they did okay, usually usually hurt skits two yards on it,
usually to be honest. So I mean he was got
their first down, they got their touchdowns that they did,
they succeeded.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
They were trying to get.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Other NFL players and Michael Parsons chimed in on the
on social media. Oh kitty, He said, this is not
a football play. It's not and so you're starting to
get players pushing back on it as well. Now now,
I think that's been the case for a while, but
I mean it's Thursday night, standalone game. Hey look, one
of the outspoken you know players in this league.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
Is hating on that play. Hey look, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
I don't think it's a real football play, but I
just hate to punish a team for doing something better
than everybody else. And that's kind of how I always looked.
But I don't disagree the aesthetics of it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
It's just yucky. I mean, moving the ball and jumping
early has nothing to do with pay legal. Like I said,
you have to call the fall star if you come
in a fall star penalty, no question, And they did
it today. All right, let's uh take a quick time out.
But first remind they're giants.

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will get to you and then we will wrap things
up on Giants extra point. The Giants defeat the Eagles
thirty four to seventeen. We'll be right back.

Speaker 20 (01:38:23):
This is Cameron Scattaboo and you're listening to Giants Football
on the Fan, Wfan and WFA n FM, New York.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
First of goal, Giants out the one with eight O
five to go.

Speaker 22 (01:38:36):
On the third Giants fight three guard over center Scattaboo
the bat hand off Scataboo runch to his right, fighting
for the tern.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Can he break the plane?

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Yes, touchdown Giants.

Speaker 22 (01:38:51):
Hand off Scattaboo into the line to go line no
strangle yet.

Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
And touchdown Giants scottabrew start rushing. Touchdown of the ball game,
Why he doesn't back player?

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
And how the times leave at thirty three.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Seventeen dam Scataboo Paul we talked about when he got
drafted that he was going to be a fan favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
He's that. I've said this multiple times, I'll say it again.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
He's just that right type of crazy you want out
of a running back and a football player.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
And look, he's got a violent running style.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
He's not the biggest guy knocking on wood that he's
able to stay healthy. But man, he's just a fun
football player like he was. Some guys are born to
play football. That dude was born, Yes, to play the
game of football. He brings a lot of the Brandon
Jacob's flavor to the field. He's also got a little
bit of Madison Hedgecock in him because Madison.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Was wound.

Speaker 14 (01:39:55):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
He also has some of mad Bradwaltons because of his size.
He does yeah, he does.

Speaker 27 (01:40:00):
Hey can I just point to I think the most
underrated and overlooked turning point in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
I'd love for you to do that ball.

Speaker 27 (01:40:07):
The Giants score on the Scataboo touchdown to make it
twenty to seventeen with a little bit over a minute
left in the second quarter. How many times have we
seen the Giants movie that's right where they allow the
other team in the two minute drive right before the
half right to come back and score and get.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Points that wind up burning the Giants in the butt.

Speaker 27 (01:40:30):
But this time they've got that three point lead, and
they actually went into the locker room holding that three
point lead because they held the Eagles to I guess
they got to midfield, they had no timeouts, they held
them to midfield, the clock.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
Ran out, they got to their own forty three yard line,
and the Giants were able.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
To hold a three point lead going.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Into the second half.

Speaker 27 (01:40:53):
I thought that was incredibly significant because it controls the
game for him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
By the way, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
They wouldn't have done that if Jamie Gillen kickoff did
not get dropped by Tank Bigsby and the Eagles started
to drive at their own seven yard line on the
three plays to start that drive. The Eagles gamed thirty
eight yards on their first three plays. If they're starting
the ball at the thirty five yard line, this.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Is what they're still in negative. On the negative side of.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
There, in field wore rage if they started at the
thirty or thirty five, but they started at their seven.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
So the thirty eight yards just put the ball to
forty times.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
An underrated effect of Jamie gillenrapts field position, special team,
hewittt and Jones on the tackle after the muff sounds
like a laffer.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
He really does, but it tilted the field and then
the defense diod enough.

Speaker 27 (01:41:41):
I want to give credit to Dane Bilton, who quite
honestly has not had a great first month of the season,
but on that drive he had a very strong one
on one tackle for a nine yard game and then
had a pass defense also during that drive looking for
Dallas Goddard yep, and it kept the Eagles from getting

(01:42:01):
into field goal ranger. We know that Elliott can hit
from fifty five. He done He's Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
In fact, he's hit a sixty against the Giants before.

Speaker 27 (01:42:09):
So underrated drive in the game, but it was critical,
I thought in terms of game flow.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
All right, let us wrap it fire through these final
four calls. We can get out of here and get
a little bit of sleep. Let's go to Carlos in Clifton. Carlos,
what's going on?

Speaker 21 (01:42:24):
Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:42:25):
Guys?

Speaker 17 (01:42:25):
Great win tonight.

Speaker 14 (01:42:27):
I mean.

Speaker 21 (01:42:29):
It just shows how.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
I mean this team.

Speaker 21 (01:42:35):
They said, they said we weren't going to win anything,
and look at this young nucleus. I mean it's incredible.
You have scatterable start. I mean every week he's getting better.
Last year he played a little ish, but tonight he's
in the pocket, he's dancing around the pocket, extending plays,
he's making the right throws. I mean, I've never seen

(01:42:55):
the Giants in all my years. I'm fifty three years old,
have so much talent. It's incredible what the future.

Speaker 17 (01:43:03):
Is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
How let you guys go, Yeah, I appreciate you're right
about that. It's amazing how the ten Ortigi's much different
today after it was last week. Winning.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Winning means a lot, and it changes how you feel
about things. And but I think winning fixes everything, absolutely
it does. But I think it's more than that. I
think it's if the Giants had somehow whatever lost this
game and say the Eagles just did whatever and scored
I don't know, three extra points and.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
They would a lot of it is how is how
it looks now? You're right about that. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
Last week was frustrating because they gave the game away
and it was all on them, like they should have
won that game, but the turnovers doomed them. This week
it was turnover free football. There were a couple of
sacks in this game or in this uh in this
for Jackson Dart, but I think it was I just
had to look at the stat It was only for
a yard, like two sacks from minus one yard. It

(01:43:53):
wasn't like two sacks for minus fifteen or minus thirty.
So it was never a in a in a in
a compromised position. You never felt like they were in
a compromise position. So yes, it was a big win,
but how it looked was what was most encouraging.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
And again you mentioned that throw that Jackson Dart had.
I thought it was his best one when he had
a rusher in his face. He threw that like thirteen
or fourteen yard out the Theo Johnson with the guy
right in his face in the second half. I thought
that was a really good throw. Brian Dable Paul mentioned
the loose plays again, and look, we're still not seeing
a ton of all right, three or five step job
foot hits, projection, you know, progression one, progression to progression three,

(01:44:30):
ball out. Yeah, you know, we're not seeing those checkdowns
yet to your point, taking, but he's making enough plays
with his legs and the plays that would be sacked
with a less mobile quarterback or either neutral plays or
they're turning into positive plays.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
And that's been the difference. You know, I've had.

Speaker 27 (01:44:46):
Many of offensive coordinators tell me over the years that
you can't teach the instinctive spidery sense in the pocket
about when to feel the pressure, the pocket presence, you know,
the pocket presence right to not only feel it, but
also know what to do when it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
And look, he's got it. And Brian Dables said that
in the postgame press conference.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
He showed that at Old Miss, and when we talked
about in the off season, that was one of the
things that we liked about him when we were doing
the draft stuff before they even picked him.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
That was one of the things that he The thing
about Jackson Dart and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
This was in contrast and this is time I'm just
bringing up because they do opposite things. Should or Sanders
when he felt pressure in college, he would oftentimes run backwards,
Yes and out.

Speaker 17 (01:45:26):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
When Jackson Dart felt pressure in college, he would step
up and through.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
And you're seeing the same thing here. He's stepping up
and through.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
He's not turning his back and running backwards and turning
a four yard loss into a twelve yard loss.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
He's turning it into a positive play. Right, or if
he does get sacked, it's for a yard or two.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:45:47):
Yeah, you know what's interesting, John, We've said a billion
times over the last twenty years doing BBK that there
were quarterbacks who run to run and other quarterbacks who
run to throw. I think I've already seen Jackson Dart
in three weeks show that he's willing to do both.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
He does both.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I think he's still probably a little bit more run
to run than run to throw, but he has had
enough runs to throw where you think as he gets
older and gets more experienced, he might start doing that more.

Speaker 17 (01:46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
He's not quite the Patrick Mahomes level. Whereat correct, he.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
Will run to make you come get him, just to
clear open a guy behind that that's a whole level,
that's another level.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
But he'll get I feel like he'll get there. No,
he could get there. He has that type of mode
artists causing defenses to second guess himself. No, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
And then this is the point that I think it
was Dan Orlovsky, and I think Chase Daniel also made
the point to me when I had them on back
in May on the Giants after the Giants drafted Dart.
What Orlovsky especially liked about Jackson is that when there
was pressure, it was never panic. He was always in control.
It was like ignoring correctnoring it correct. He's able to

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do what he needs do and it doesn't he doesn't
let him bother.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Right, it's not affecting his decision making or his process. Now,
the one thing you worry about that when you see
young players that are that way that they're they're often
not ball secure, right, They're not. They're not aware that
a strip sack could be coming or something of that nature.
But that hasn't really been the issue. And look, Jackson's
been fortunate too.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
He's probably gotten three of the best consecutive games of
offensive line play then we've seen from a Giants offensive
line in four or five years.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Amazing, What a difference that makes. You know, what does
that look like? When the pockets breaks down?

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Three guys are running at him and he gets you know,
absolutely massacred in the pocket, then maybe that's not a strength.
Then maybe, oh no, he's gonna fumble the ball a
billion times like Daniel Jones did in his first or
second year. When remember when Daniel Jorges first started with
the Giants, he was throwing the ball down the field.
He's Danny Dimes, He's holding the ball and then all
of a sudden he gets lit off a bunch in
three or four straight games, like maybe this isn't the

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best way to play. Then everything changes, right, So we'll
have to see how that goes moving forward. But so
far you have to like which see all right, let's
go to David and Flemington. David, what's up?

Speaker 27 (01:48:04):
All right?

Speaker 14 (01:48:04):
Gentlemen, Thank you so much, Tiki. It's an honor to
talk to you. Paul and John, love you guys too.
I am so happy now, Tiki. The first game I
went to was right after Wellington died. You went and
you just ran your ass off against the Red and
it was wonderful. Yeah, it was a great game. I

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am so happy. Finally, I have watched so many bad
weeks of football. I am so happy about this team now. Listen,
I know we're not winning a Super Bowl, but at
the very least, I am a very happy fan over
what I saw tonight, what I also saw against Los Angeles.
We'll forget about the Saints for a minute. It is

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so refreshing, so refreshing to see a team that actually
has fight in them now. I know everyone's saying, oh,
Daniel Jones doing so well in Indy, that guy sucked
with us, But at the end of the day, this team,
I love what they're doing right now. I always thought
Dabel was the guy. I don't know about Shane, but
I thought Dabel was the guy. And I think we

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are going to do very good things in the future.
You give these guys a year or two to develop,
we're gonna be just fine. Teeky.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
It's about building. Appreciate it, man, it's about building.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
It's it's taking the successes that you've uh, that you've
that you started to piece together over the last three games.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
The Jackson Dark Era.

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
We can call it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
As Dave said this press conference at two and one
over their last three and that's what you're worried about,
is how do they keep advancing but also taking care
of the mistakes that they will make. And when I
say their mistakes are going to happen right there. It's
a young team still, but how do you respond from them?
As I think most important?

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
And Paul one sec I'll just say this real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Don't let Daniel Jones' success take away your enjoyment of
what the giants.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Of course, be happy for Daniel, happy for him.

Speaker 27 (01:49:56):
I want to ask both of you guys a question
because I'm starting to feel like it might be happening
this team, this team has, This team has pulled off
two very big, impressive upsets.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
Against top teams.

Speaker 27 (01:50:12):
On the end, the crowd has absolutely been behind them
and given them an awful lot of support. Is it
possible that they are actually starting to resuscitate some.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
Type of.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Without a doubt, Without a doubt, it was crowded here
against the Charges, probably because it was the most beautiful
day of a fall you'll ever have. It was gorgeous outside,
a little bit warm, but whatever, it was nice. It's
Thursday night primetime football. It happens to be a Jewish holiday,
so a lot of people are off tomorrow, so it
kind of lined up perfectly, even though it's a little

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bit chilly, and the fans were.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Here, and hey, look, I think they gave them a
reason to celebrate. We all walked in. There was a
lot of green in the stance.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Of course, there was a lot of green in the stands,
the end zone particular, and behind the Eagles benches.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
There was a lot of green in the stands. But
it's because it's an easy trip.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Wait and look, the Giants are coming off a bed
lost and they're one and four. I don't blame fans
are doing what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
You do what you gotta do. But to the Giants
fans credits, we did not hear those ego fans much
during this game. Fourth corner John, we did not. We
did not get one fly fly, so we got none
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
The Giant fans stood up and they claimed this stadium
back for themselves, even though there was a lot of
green in the stands. Two straight home games now and
I can't remember the last time that happened. And Brian
Dable said a postgame look with the fans did great,
but kudos are the players for earning that support. And
he said that before when you know the media tried to,
you know, ask him, and you know the fans are

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booing you. You know, he goes, well, we didn't give
them a reason to cheer, and he's like, today, we
gave them a reason to cheer.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
So that's what you gotta keep doing. You did it
against the Chargers too.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
Unfortunately, next two games on the road at Denver at Philly,
you will not have any friendly confines there. But then
you come back home and you play the San Francisco
forty nine ers, so we'll see where they are in
three weeks. All right, let's go back to the phones.
Two more guys will try to squeeze him before we
say goodbye. Jack is coming home from the game. Jackie
home yet, buddy, you're still in the car.

Speaker 28 (01:52:07):
We are still in the car five minutes out. Just
wanted to say this about this game. It was more
about the future for me than than about the win itself.
Seeing Dark and Scatterboo play the way they did, the
energy in the building was great. More about the future
than this carring game. You heard more of Bye Eagles
bye than Fly Eagles Fly.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
I like it.

Speaker 16 (01:52:33):
It was a great game to bed Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Appreciate the call man favorite. Next time you calling Jack,
you got to make sure have your radio turned down
in the background so we don't get that echo. But yeah, look,
I mean the future absolutely. And the funny thing I
was looking at this guys, dark still isn't thrown for
more than two hundred and two yards in a game.
The Belie reason he got the two hundred two against
the Saints is because there was garbage time at the
end of the two or three drives.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
So I don't think explosive big number of football is important.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
No it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
But that's my point. Their team victories.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
Yeah, it's winning. It's finding ways to win games. And
Jackson Dart is a winner and you're seeing it. And
again two or two of the three games. How many
rushes that the Giants have in this game?

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Poll?

Speaker 27 (01:53:16):
Total total rushes total rushers thirty nine and only twenty
five passing cheps.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
The two wins they had with Jackson Dart, you had
almost forty rushes in both those games.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
Yeah, and you know I love it. I know you do.
That's why I asked, Hey, how about.

Speaker 10 (01:53:30):
These two numbers because they're more important than Jackson Dart's
passing numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Eleven of sixteen on third down, that has something to
do with passing numbers. So some of it does, and legs,
by the way, a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
Of it was just being in manageable third down situations
and in him making plays.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Are you slowly re embracing the quarterback running pall as
he gets some of these key third down cons It.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Makes me nervous, but okay, And how about three for
three in the red zone. How about that?

Speaker 17 (01:53:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
That is also pretty darn good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
And by the way, if you count the one that
he ran in from the twenty, it would have been
four for four true. And again I think Cam Scataboo's
presence running it in those short yard of situations has
made such a different situational run, especially in goal to
go situations. He's been huge. He always I keep saying
this tike, he keeps falling forwards.

Speaker 4 (01:54:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
He made the point at the end of balls runs
he kind of gets his two feet together and just
launches himself forward to gain.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
Those extra couple of yards. So does a great job.
Where our final call wrap things up is Mike and queens, Mike,
what's going on?

Speaker 14 (01:54:29):
And what's going on?

Speaker 19 (01:54:29):
You know when the Bengals made the Super Bowl a
few years ago, they had literally the worst on line
in NFL history, and they had a confident average defense.
What they had was two superstar receivers and obviously Joe Burrow.
When I'm trying to say is we don't know what
neighbors is. Okay, if the Giants can somehow get Adam
Ny Mitchell from the Colts, who has more talent than neighbors,
they have so many receivers already, they will obviously have

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the quarterback. You have Neighbors under a really good contract,
lookie contracts, they can immediately become super super Bowl conditions
we know they have at least.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
But nobody. Why would they give him up? Why would they.

Speaker 19 (01:55:02):
Get they have Josh so many receivers already. No, you're right,
and I'm just saying when when you look at when
they started testing receivers athletics scores at the combine, nineteen
eighty seven was when they started testing it. He's the
most athletic receiver they've ever tested since nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Mitchell, No, though you're you're you're absolutely appreciated to appreciate
the call, and Ne mitchell I had a late first round.
Great hunhim coming out. He's extremely talented, also a bit
of a knucklehead. There's a reason he is currently their
fourth wide receiver in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Yes, and you're gonna make me rain on.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
Jackson Dart on the final call the show after you
just beat the Philadelphia Eagles. Did you just assume that
he's Joe Burrow? Is that what just happened on that
phone call? Did he just assume that Jackson Darter is
Joe Burrow?

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
Is that what happened? Yeah, well we are. We aren't
getting close to Halloween. He's not there yet.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
He kind of dresses like Joe Burrow when he comes
at it out of the stadium. He has he he
has the Joe Burrow drip, as the kids might say. Yeah,
I just said that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
I know, I think it is. It's a little too late.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
I just used to word drip that I and I
didn't eat water. Guys, good stuff. Enjoy your weekends off, gentlemen.
That could be Yeah, we could have a nice little
weekend with the kids. Watch them on non Giants football
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
I want to keep baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
That's what I want to We don't have nixt one
preseason Foods texted me that the Knicks beat the Timberwls
in preseason best That's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
That'll get you.

Speaker 13 (01:56:29):
That's cool.

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Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
What do we got.

Speaker 14 (01:57:50):
Ah Ce Mac?

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
He's unhappy about the New York Yankees, but he's gonna
be happy about the New York Chiants.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
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