April 16, 2025 • 25 mins
General manager Joe Schoen speaks to the the media prior to the 2025 NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right. I like to first off start by thanking
my scouting staff along with many people in the building
through these thirty visits, the scouting process, the All Star Games,
the combine. You know, the coaches are heavily involved in
the process. A lot of zooms, they zoomed with a
lot of these prospects. I've been to a lot of dinners,
you know, a lot of meetings in the facility with
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some of the prospects that came through pro days, private
workouts also, whether it's you know, strength and conditioning coaches, uh,
the cafeteria pat beyond, you know, their staff, Lannie, doctor Lannie.
You know, we put these these kids through, you know,
quite a process when they come through the building, and
you know there's a lot of people involved that are
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critical in you know, our decision making. So I want
to thank them for that. With that being said, you know,
we feel like we're in a pretty good spot, you know,
with the draft coming up in eight days and you know,
there's still some work to do and some loose sins
that we're going to tie up meetings with coaches, you know,
some zooms. We can still do zooms with prospects, so
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we're not there yet, but we're getting close, but you know,
feel good about where we are, So that open up
to two questions.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Still work to get that there's you guys are doing
some private workouts with quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Explain why the timing of it to do it's so
late in the process now maybe rather than sometime earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, it's a unique calendar year. I think the draft
is as early as it can be, that Thursday in
April being the twenty fourth, you know, if you're speaking
specifically of Colorado, like their pro day was April fourth,
that was the last one. Two to three weeks after
the draft, we make our calendar for the next year,
and we have we have a process is that that's
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in place that we believe in terms of how many
days we need for our meetings and medical, psychological, some
of the third party vendors that we use in terms
of how the calendar goes. So with the April fourth
pro day of Colorado, we were already in meetings. So
when I left you guys at the owners meetings, we
started that Wednesday, and that's how the calendar is for
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us every year. So it was unique that a pro
day was that late and we had to stop meetings
to go out to Boulder. But these private workouts have
been in place, and what happens Jordan is a lot
of times these prospects won't do privates before their pro days.
So if we could have done a private workout with
Shador before his pro day, we probably would have. But
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the concern there is they also have receivers, and there's
a lot of receivers at Colorado, so you don't want
to be that team that does a private workout with
a prospect and then they pulled a muscle. Or one
year I was in Miami, there was a tight end
at Nebraska Omaha when they had football and he broke
his wrist at the private private workout and the pro
day was the next day, and all the scouts were
pissed off, So you got to be conscious of that.
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You don't want these guys get injured before their pro
day when all thirty two teams can can watch them perform.
So there's nothing unique about this other than the calendar
is what it is this year, and we were in meetings.
Some of these prospects have had thirty visits, so you're
trying to connect the schedules. They're busy. We're busy, and
you know this was you know, the week where you
know we could get out there and you know, do
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some of these other private workouts. And we're not just
doing this with quarterbacks. There's there's a couple of other
positions that we have private workouts that are coming up
as well. So it's just when you're trying to put
the big puzzle together and you know players are coming in,
they're at thirty visits, you know, the off season program.
You know, it takes takes two to be on the
same page, and you know, have openings where you can
get together put especially. Yeah, we have a process in
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place that we've we've had. I mean this dates back
to when Daves and I worked together in Miami. You know,
I remember the Andy Andy Dalton outlet, you know some
of those guys. So it's a pretty thorough process in
place that we believe in and we've seen the results
play out at the position. So I'm not gonna getting
the specifics with that, but it's been tested, it's true,
and you know it's a lot of times it's it's
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panned out, know, whether we liked didn't like a prospect
and how they projected to the next level.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You discussed right from the beginning about the importance of
improving the quarterback position. You've signed a couple of veterans
and Russell Wilson James Winston. How important is it for
the Giants to select a quarterback at some point in
this draft.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
With the signing of those two players, I think we
put our position ourselves in a position where, you know,
I don't think that's mandatory or something that we're our
feet of the fire and we have to do. You know,
I think the two guys we signed have played a
lot of ball, They've got a lot of skins on
the wall, and I do think we've upgraded that room,
you know, compared to where it was a year ago.
I like the two guys that we have, and you know,
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Tommy's still in there, and he's won games for us too,
and he's still developing, you know, So we're happy with
the makeup of the room right now.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
When you look at the league white trends, how much
does that effect or tweet or cause you to tweet
your processes When you look at, you know, some of
the things that the successful teams have last year, maybe
we're able to do in terms.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Of personnel, what trend are you like, for example.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You know, more defensive line rotation or running back emphasis,
you know that sort of thing. Does that you know
what your uh.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Y y yeah, I mean I don't know if it's
a trends, but you look around like you look at
you know, division and your matchups within the division, or
your opponents or or what's coming up, and ultimately you're
trying to build the best team. But I know, again
talking about Miami again with Miami and they had two
really ya New England had two really good tight ends. Well,
how are we gonna match up against these guys? So
if you have a weakness first you know, a certain
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opponent that you gotta play a couple times a year. Y,
you know, you look at that and how you're gonna
build your team because ultimately you wanna win your division.
So not so much trends around the league, but you
know it is a copycat lead. So coaches are looking
at that from from a personnel standpoint. It's really good
collaboration with with the coaching staff and what they're looking
for and what they need in order to put the
best product on the field and win games.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Sure, you go to a draft now obviously going to
the fourth draft that you've had, how much do you
have your current depth chart, your current roster, but also
project two three years down the road as to what
you have in the building, but also what you're going
to be drafting position wise where you look for Can
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it be in two different silos? Is the current over
here and draft separate or you have to mention together.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, we're always looking at that. Are that's that's that's
a good question. And Okay, here's where we are salary
cap wise going into twenty twenty six. Here's our players
that are going to be UFA's. If there's a guy
there in the second round that could maybe a backup
here one, but then we don't have to pay somebody
twenty million dollars. You know, you're looking at it that way.
Really good player, eventual starter. You know where you are
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salary cap wise, whose contracts are coming up, So you're
always looking into the future. Hey, this eventual success or
to player X, if we don't get a deal done
or can't extend them, you're always looking into that. Yeah,
for sure. I mean I was talking about the other
day with our secondary Now like geez, like three years
from now, they're all up at the same time, and
Dexter is up at the same time, so I'm already
you know, you're projecting down there a rookie class last
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year if they want a first round or so three
years from now, there's there's a lot of guys core
guys right now that are you know, the contracts are
up at the same time, so you try to prevent
that when you're doing some deals here and there, and
you know, but we're always conscious of that the you know,
the financial aspect of it, and then how are we
going to replace these players?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
You know, a quarterback position different than almost andy when
you look at the draft as far as I mean,
the draft is seven rounds, so you don't take every
guy that you want to be a gold jacket, you know,
Hall of Fame star. You know, there's there's different levels
to you know, depth charts and the way you want
guys do you look at quarterbacks. There's no reason to
take a quarterback anywhere in the draft, and unless you
think he can start for you and be a really
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good player, or you take a guy in a different
round that he can be a he might make our team.
And be a depth guy would be a you know
what I'm saying, I mean, is that different You took
the quarterbacks differently than.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The other spots.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, And it's a little bit ties into arts question.
Just you know, backup quarterbacks are between four and say
ten million dollars, right, you know, I mean, whatever whatever
number you want to throw out. But so yeah, if
you can get a quarterback in the third fourth, whoever
it is, and he can be her backup quarterback, you know,
now you're open up financial resources that you don't have
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to spend on a backup quarterback and he can be
a cost controlled player for four years that's not expensive
compared to what's on the open market. So yeah, like
it doesn't have to be Hey, this guy's got to
be a starter. Like, it'd be nice to have a
if it's a young backup quarterback on a rookie contract too,
because when you look at what we've paid for backup quarterbacks,
whether it was ty Rod Drew to where we're now,
that's now that's money you can spend elsewhere. So yeah,
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and you know, to sign a guy with upside at
that position that can develop and you know, maybe Winnie
Games or maybe they develop into a number one. You know,
you're always looking at those scenarios.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
This year's quarterback class, I.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Mean there's some depth to it. I mean there's there's
good players for various reasons, different ages, different playtime experience.
There's there's there's quarterbacks in this draft that'll that'll go
on and play and be starters in the League of
the future. To speak, yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I know you said you don't think it's mandatory to
get a quarterback indership, but how surprised.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Would you be if you got through the entirety of.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
The drift and didn't have a didn't take a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
How surprised like a percentage or perc.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Going in in your head?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Do you think it's a likelies if you might end.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Up with a quarterback or do you think, yeah, where
do you stand on that?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
At this point?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I don't know whatever else is that you're dealing with,
you know, thirty one other teams and how they see
their boards. So yeah, if the value matches up with
with what we have on a player, and there's an
opportunity to take any position, we'll do it. But I'm
not going to force it if it's not the right value.
And again, if if the board lines up when we're
on the clock and that's the position that that that
we want to go with, we'll go with it. But
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you know, I'm not going to be back into a
corner on that. How do you decide when to play?
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Is worth a risk taking it where you might have
reservations on him, but you know it's worth the gamble
because there's other attributes that maybe he maybe he does hit.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, that's a good question too, And it's that the
issue doesn't change whatever it is depending on what it
is now. It could if it's medical. So if if
this guy has a you know it's coming off a
shoulder surgery, he's not gonna be ready till October, do
you drop that player a little bit since you're not
going to get into a week eight that's going to
get better. If a guy's not very smart or can't
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do something that you're going to ask him to do,
or there's something that's not going to get better that
maybe you're not comfortable with. Maybe it's the kid has
some background issues or something like that. If you drop
them and say, okay, we can't pass on this guy,
the issues are still the issues, So that that's that's
what we we're wrestling with, depending what the issue is
and the support system and ecosystem that we have in
place here with player development and the coaching staff and
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in the locker room, can we handle a player with
maybe an off field issue or maybe they're immature, or
you know, whatever it may be. We're weighing the pros
and cons and you know, can we fix what you
know may cause them to fall? Is the risk worth
the reward? And then you know, is that what we
want to bring in our locker room?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
How comfortable.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Up?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And have you made the decision?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, we haven't. We're gonna we'll probably wait to have
for the draft on that and.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Next week program starts.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Have discussions continue with Evan as falls maybe sliding over
the golf.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I haven't talked to Evan. Again. I'll echo what
I said two weeks ago at the owners meetings, like
he's gonna do whatever he can do, uh to help
the organization and do what's best for the Giants. So
you know, he's motivated, He's had a good off season,
he's been working hard, so you know, we're excited to
get him back in here and he's gonna do whatever
he can to help us.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
Speaking about what.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Have you heard, I guess the most recent update on
where Audol Carter is. Yeah, we have that meeting tomorrow
with with Ronnie and his crew, so we'll have some
more information. We've been in contact with. He was here
on Friday. I think that was pretty well reported. So
it feels good. He's working out, he's running. Didn't even
know he had it, you know, he went to the combine.
It was news to him. So I don't think there's
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gonna be much room for pause there with with the.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Drafts huner, who has said this week that he wants
to play both positions. When you meet with the player,
just how often do you discuss your fit, how you
want them to fit in with the universus, just kind
of what they envision their fit is.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, the players ask us that all the time. You know,
how do you see me fit with your organization? So
Travis is a unique individual, you know, again Dave said
it at the Owners means you got to watch a
lot of plays on him, So he's he's fun to watch.
It's it's unique that you know the ball skills, the
route ability, and then also the ability to go to
the other side and you know, play corner like you
just don't see that very often. You know, a lot
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of times if these guys can't catch or they can't
play receiver, then they get moved to dB. But you know,
this guy can do it all. So he's also you know,
he's a great kid, so it'd be hard to keep
him off the field. And you know he's motivated to
play both ways. So you know, again you're always worried
about the length of the season. You know, at the
NFL seventeen games and training camp, and you're just if
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he gets hurt doing something that he's not doing full time,
you know, you're going to kick yourself. But he's he's
a unique athlete that I think we'll be able to
do both. What do you do as his primary position? Jeez,
we're in a position. We're in a unique position that
you know, we have three good receivers and you know
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we like our secondary right now, so that'd be our
situation will be unique. So you know, would not be
afraid to play them on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That is, for a player to do it on both
sides full time.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I think it would be difficult, but he's proven that
he can do it and be available, So you know
that's the unique part. But you know, you're always concerned
with these guys. We're looking at the the workloads and
the yardage each day and then you know, to me,
what will what will have to be settled? Is the
mental part of it, because you know, the offense is
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very hard to learn, and then the defense on a
weekly basis, like you're it's not college anymore, where hey,
these are these are basic plays. This is our basic defense.
And we're gonna go play cover three against Kansas, We're
gonna play cover three against Nebraska. There's a lot more
week to week, you know, matchup type stuff that our
coaches are doing. So just how much can you handle
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mentally where you can go out there and execute and
they can trust you to do your job. So physically,
I wouldn't doubt the kid.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
When you look at Trevor, most people around the league
seem to say like he has all world potential a corner.
He also has all world potential at receiver. I mean,
do you share that boat where he can be that
good at both spots?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't doubt the kid.
I mean, he's he's that type of athlete and he's
had that type of I mean, it's it's insane the
amount of Snapsy played, amount of snapsy plays a game,
doesn't sit down, You goes over, gets a drink of water,
and gets back out on the field. So he's got
that type of athleticism, he's got the right mindset. He's
a great kid. So I wouldn't doubt him.
Speaker 9 (15:16):
The future in terms of you know, looking ahead, signing
guys in the salary.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Cap and all of that. When you think about.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Potentially trading assets, you know, to move around in the draft,
do you sort of take the long view as far
as not only what assets you might have in the future,
but but what the drafts might look like long term.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, for sure, Yeah, yeah, we take all that into account.
Usually if you're gonna it depends, so like if you're
looking long term, it's you know, you got to make
sure it's a player that you really like if you're
talking about trading future future assets. But but yeah, we
take all that into account.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Is that you know, set up like he is for
you as to where he might fit in, is you're
such a thing as too many pass rushers in your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I don't think so. I mean everybody watched the Super Bowl, right,
Philly rushed with how many for the whole game? So
that was that's that's one way to do it. So yeah,
I mean if you think about any of these players,
you know that you know may or may not be
in the mix. Uh, you know, as a unique player
like him that played off the ball for two years
and then he's only played one season, you know, off
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off the edge and you know, had a really good season.
You know, then you you got cave on and you
got burns, you got decks inside, you got I mean
there's just he gives you a lot of options, you know,
as a versatile player. He's young, just you know, it's
twenty one years old and you know, exciting player to watch.
But yeah, you can't you can't have enough. You have
have enough pass rushers.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Would you spot for him.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Given that you know primarily he's I think once up
the same spots as.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
The other best.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, we would find a way. You know, we find
it's no different than with Travis Hunter. Like we could
and you got a first round corner and we just
brought in Paulson, and you know, we got three. Like
you figure it out, Like you've got good football players,
you figure out find a way to get them on
get them on the field, and utilize.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Them as the best player available. Line with the most
important player to your organization. Like the need that you have.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Do you have to kind of balance that year? Yeah,
you're always doing that. You're always you're always balancing that.
But again, I've tried to set it up each year
that we can go into the draft and we can
play a game and you know, the hope is that
you're you're better than you were the year before as
of today or you know, next Thursday when we go
to play the game. So if there is a blue
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chip or generational type talent or something you just can't
pass on, even if you maybe already have starters of
that position, you just you don't pass on that type
of player. So you know, again then if if you
go need base, that's when you know, I think sometimes
you know you can make you know, you can make
mistakes at times, So you know, again, I like to
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go in so you're not backed into a corner where
you have to take a certain position and you could
take the best player available.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
I don't expect you to literally he answer this question directly,
But do you have a pretty good idea or do
you know what's going to happen at one and two
at this point or are you still in the information
gathering process waiting to try to figure out what's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, it's still in the information gathering process. I mean, again,
we sell my guys when we look at our board
or free agency or values that we assume everybody sees
it like us, and that's not always the case. So
still gathering information. I mean there's rumors of what what
teams may or may not do. But you know what
we can control is, hey, come up with three players
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we're happy with and rank those guys and if they
don't go in that order, they go in a different order,
knowing who we like best of those three players, and
you know that that's what we can control. But yeah, still,
you know there's still a rumor mill. It's it's that
time of year, it's you know, rumors everywhere. So have
somewhat of a sense that I think will happen, But
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you know, obviously I don't know that for a fact, Like.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I'm sure every year when you guys come together for
your meetings that people have different ideas.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
About one, two, three, four.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
You know, were there a lot more divergent ideas this
time or or was we just kind of walking in the.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Room, say, everybody's got.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Hid number one.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah. So we have the horizontal board, which is you know,
it's a quarterback running back, you know, all the way
across offense versus defense. And then we do a vertical stack.
So that's where we just did it this past weekend
with the scouts. They just left last night or actually
this morning, the scouts left, but we were finished up
our meetings last night. And that's where you get into
the you know, the the hard conversations because if these
two players are there, which is a reality like they
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may be there, who are going to take and why?
So there's a lot of respectful debates in the draft
room when when it comes down to and a lot
of times it's two good players or two players we
really like. That's where there's discrepancies in the room. And
ultimately I'm tasked with making the final decision. But you know,
we'll we'll phone in the coaches and you know, get
their opinion if those guys are there, or if it's
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two positions and we love both players, which which position
you know best helps the New York Giants? Like we
love both players, it's the same value. You know, who's
going to help us the best? So, you know it
is it's a it's a collaborative process. You know, scouts
do a great job. They're on the road one hundred
and fifty days a year and they know these players
inside it out. And then we bring the coaches in
and get their opinion and if if there's discrepancies, which
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that's what this week and early in the next week is,
we'll we'll work through or we'll we'll get the film
and watch it together and okay, let me see if
we can see what you see or you know, we
try to coherse them into you know, seeing them how
how we like them. So it's a good process. It's
a good group of people, a lot of good professionals,
and you know, the collaboration and communication has been is
very good.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is John Marra going to Boulder tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
With you guys? John Mason? What does what.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Does leadership look like to you at the quarterback position?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know, to me, probably one of the best I've
seen is you know I've been around are the ones
that I've been around, or you know, the ability to
to motivate and get people to follow, you know, to
to bring the team up when things are down and
and motivate the rest of the group. And we we
talk about a lot. You know, you're you're the face
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of the franchise, so like people are watching you, all
eyes are on you, and you know your work ethic,
how you approach the game. You know your ability to
interact and connect teammates, and you know, across both sides
of the ball, offense, defense. You know, I think that's
all that's all really important. You know at that position specifically,
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you know, trying to get on.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
The same page.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Is it especially important that the organization that everybody's on
the same page. If you're looking at a quarterback and
if there is a discrepancy, how do you break that
tie or do you just pass on that on that player?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah? Know, ultimately decision falls on me. So you go
through the whole process and there are describing there's there's
been discrepancies in all different rounds, all different positions and
in minia drafts, and ultimately you know, final say typically
goes with the general manager, so you ultimately got if
there's a discrepancy and at the end of the day,
I'm convicted, you know, that's the decision has to be made.
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So that's that's how we do it. Training down, Yeah,
well we'll be open to all options. I mean, those
type of strategy sessions have been ongoing and you know,
talking through different scenarios. So yeah, well we're always going
to be open to you know, either or those scenarios
of interest from teams looking to train up. We we've
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received some calls. Yeah, we've received some calls.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Well, obviously don't want to be three in the future,
but in this position, do you feel you can't miss
on a player at this point? I mean pretty much
a lot of rankings have can't forward. Going one, you
have a quality of to have Travis on Germany. That
seems to be a pretty consensus. One, two, three You
may different with that. I don't know, but I mean
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do you think at number three, if you just sit
there and you say we have top three players rank
whoever is there, you feel like it's almost as.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Much of a campus players is possible in a drift.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We like we like our options. We like who will
be there? Would like who'll be there?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
As is your fourth drift? Right?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You haven't had a chance.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
To put in the car for a quarterback yet? Is that?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Is that an inch?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Is that something that gems you know you want to do?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You want?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah? Where we are? Yeah, I mean it's you would
like to have, you know, a young franchise quarterback. I
think every general manager would be you know, everybody wants that,
you know, so, but the value has to be right
or it's not. It doesn't matter. I mean, you get
that one wrong, you know, you just got to get
that right. So when in a position to get the
right one at the right time, that's when you pull
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the trigger, Joe.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
More lose the ability you want right now? Could that
change the worrow? Could that change on Thursday?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, we're still working again. We're gonna run out the
shot clock here. We have until next Thursday. So we're
going to continue to keep doing our due diligence. And
you know, I think a lot of teams around the
league are doing the same thing we're doing right now.
They're in meetings. So the phone calls usually pick up,
you know, early next week when guys are out of
meetings and you're you're getting close to the draft, and
you know, we'll continue to make our calls to whether
it's college coaches, high school coaches, you know, whatever research
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we need to continue to do. And you again, that's
that's been our process. And you know, uh, what are
good on Thursday?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What's your urgency to find a young franchise quarterback industry?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, like again, everybody wants one of those. You know,
yeah Land won this year. No, I mean if there's
not if there's not one, or you don't perceive there
to be one, or it's not available when you pick,
I mean, that's that's out of your control. So I mean, yeah,
we we would love to have one. If if there's
one available, we will definitely take.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
One's strength of the drafts and defensive line is very strong.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Running back you've used this draft as a whole with
the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Aside for a second.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I think the D line group and the edge
group for us, you know, the outside backers and D
line is a really deep group. I would say running
backs is a deep group. Corners, you know, there's some
depth a corners, So I mean those would be the
ones where you know. I think there's some good depth.
There's some high end guys at other positions, just maybe
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not as much depth
All right. I like to first off start by thanking
my scouting staff along with many people in the building
through these thirty visits, the scouting process, the All Star Games,
the combine. You know, the coaches are heavily involved in
the process. A lot of zooms, they zoomed with a
lot of these prospects. I've been to a lot of dinners,
you know, a lot of meetings in the facility with
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some of the prospects that came through pro days, private
workouts also, whether it's you know, strength and conditioning coaches, uh,
the cafeteria pat beyond, you know, their staff, Lannie, doctor Lannie.
You know, we put these these kids through, you know,
quite a process when they come through the building, and
you know there's a lot of people involved that are
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critical in you know, our decision making. So I want
to thank them for that. With that being said, you know,
we feel like we're in a pretty good spot, you know,
with the draft coming up in eight days and you know,
there's still some work to do and some loose sins
that we're going to tie up meetings with coaches, you know,
some zooms. We can still do zooms with prospects, so
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we're not there yet, but we're getting close, but you know,
feel good about where we are, So that open up
to two questions.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Still work to get that there's you guys are doing
some private workouts with quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Explain why the timing of it to do it's so
late in the process now maybe rather than sometime earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, it's a unique calendar year. I think the draft
is as early as it can be, that Thursday in
April being the twenty fourth, you know, if you're speaking
specifically of Colorado, like their pro day was April fourth,
that was the last one. Two to three weeks after
the draft, we make our calendar for the next year,
and we have we have a process is that that's
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in place that we believe in terms of how many
days we need for our meetings and medical, psychological, some
of the third party vendors that we use in terms
of how the calendar goes. So with the April fourth
pro day of Colorado, we were already in meetings. So
when I left you guys at the owners meetings, we
started that Wednesday, and that's how the calendar is for
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us every year. So it was unique that a pro
day was that late and we had to stop meetings
to go out to Boulder. But these private workouts have
been in place, and what happens Jordan is a lot
of times these prospects won't do privates before their pro days.
So if we could have done a private workout with
Shador before his pro day, we probably would have. But
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the concern there is they also have receivers, and there's
a lot of receivers at Colorado, so you don't want
to be that team that does a private workout with
a prospect and then they pulled a muscle. Or one
year I was in Miami, there was a tight end
at Nebraska Omaha when they had football and he broke
his wrist at the private private workout and the pro
day was the next day, and all the scouts were
pissed off, So you got to be conscious of that.
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You don't want these guys get injured before their pro
day when all thirty two teams can can watch them perform.
So there's nothing unique about this other than the calendar
is what it is this year, and we were in meetings.
Some of these prospects have had thirty visits, so you're
trying to connect the schedules. They're busy. We're busy, and
you know this was you know, the week where you
know we could get out there and you know, do
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some of these other private workouts. And we're not just
doing this with quarterbacks. There's there's a couple of other
positions that we have private workouts that are coming up
as well. So it's just when you're trying to put
the big puzzle together and you know players are coming in,
they're at thirty visits, you know, the off season program.
You know, it takes takes two to be on the
same page, and you know, have openings where you can
get together put especially. Yeah, we have a process in
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place that we've we've had. I mean this dates back
to when Daves and I worked together in Miami. You know,
I remember the Andy Andy Dalton outlet, you know some
of those guys. So it's a pretty thorough process in
place that we believe in and we've seen the results
play out at the position. So I'm not gonna getting
the specifics with that, but it's been tested, it's true,
and you know it's a lot of times it's it's
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panned out, know, whether we liked didn't like a prospect
and how they projected to the next level.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You discussed right from the beginning about the importance of
improving the quarterback position. You've signed a couple of veterans
and Russell Wilson James Winston. How important is it for
the Giants to select a quarterback at some point in
this draft.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
With the signing of those two players, I think we
put our position ourselves in a position where, you know,
I don't think that's mandatory or something that we're our
feet of the fire and we have to do. You know,
I think the two guys we signed have played a
lot of ball, They've got a lot of skins on
the wall, and I do think we've upgraded that room,
you know, compared to where it was a year ago.
I like the two guys that we have, and you know,
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Tommy's still in there, and he's won games for us too,
and he's still developing, you know, So we're happy with
the makeup of the room right now.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
When you look at the league white trends, how much
does that effect or tweet or cause you to tweet
your processes When you look at, you know, some of
the things that the successful teams have last year, maybe
we're able to do in terms.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Of personnel, what trend are you like, for example.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You know, more defensive line rotation or running back emphasis,
you know that sort of thing. Does that you know
what your uh.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Y y yeah, I mean I don't know if it's
a trends, but you look around like you look at
you know, division and your matchups within the division, or
your opponents or or what's coming up, and ultimately you're
trying to build the best team. But I know, again
talking about Miami again with Miami and they had two
really ya New England had two really good tight ends. Well,
how are we gonna match up against these guys? So
if you have a weakness first you know, a certain
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opponent that you gotta play a couple times a year. Y,
you know, you look at that and how you're gonna
build your team because ultimately you wanna win your division.
So not so much trends around the league, but you
know it is a copycat lead. So coaches are looking
at that from from a personnel standpoint. It's really good
collaboration with with the coaching staff and what they're looking
for and what they need in order to put the
best product on the field and win games.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Sure, you go to a draft now obviously going to
the fourth draft that you've had, how much do you
have your current depth chart, your current roster, but also
project two three years down the road as to what
you have in the building, but also what you're going
to be drafting position wise where you look for Can
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it be in two different silos? Is the current over
here and draft separate or you have to mention together.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, we're always looking at that. Are that's that's that's
a good question. And Okay, here's where we are salary
cap wise going into twenty twenty six. Here's our players
that are going to be UFA's. If there's a guy
there in the second round that could maybe a backup
here one, but then we don't have to pay somebody
twenty million dollars. You know, you're looking at it that way.
Really good player, eventual starter. You know where you are
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salary cap wise, whose contracts are coming up, So you're
always looking into the future. Hey, this eventual success or
to player X, if we don't get a deal done
or can't extend them, you're always looking into that. Yeah,
for sure. I mean I was talking about the other
day with our secondary Now like geez, like three years
from now, they're all up at the same time, and
Dexter is up at the same time, so I'm already
you know, you're projecting down there a rookie class last
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year if they want a first round or so three
years from now, there's there's a lot of guys core
guys right now that are you know, the contracts are
up at the same time, so you try to prevent
that when you're doing some deals here and there, and
you know, but we're always conscious of that the you know,
the financial aspect of it, and then how are we
going to replace these players?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
You know, a quarterback position different than almost andy when
you look at the draft as far as I mean,
the draft is seven rounds, so you don't take every
guy that you want to be a gold jacket, you know,
Hall of Fame star. You know, there's there's different levels
to you know, depth charts and the way you want
guys do you look at quarterbacks. There's no reason to
take a quarterback anywhere in the draft, and unless you
think he can start for you and be a really
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good player, or you take a guy in a different
round that he can be a he might make our team.
And be a depth guy would be a you know
what I'm saying, I mean, is that different You took
the quarterbacks differently than.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The other spots.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, And it's a little bit ties into arts question.
Just you know, backup quarterbacks are between four and say
ten million dollars, right, you know, I mean, whatever whatever
number you want to throw out. But so yeah, if
you can get a quarterback in the third fourth, whoever
it is, and he can be her backup quarterback, you know,
now you're open up financial resources that you don't have
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to spend on a backup quarterback and he can be
a cost controlled player for four years that's not expensive
compared to what's on the open market. So yeah, like
it doesn't have to be Hey, this guy's got to
be a starter. Like, it'd be nice to have a
if it's a young backup quarterback on a rookie contract too,
because when you look at what we've paid for backup quarterbacks,
whether it was ty Rod Drew to where we're now,
that's now that's money you can spend elsewhere. So yeah,
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and you know, to sign a guy with upside at
that position that can develop and you know, maybe Winnie
Games or maybe they develop into a number one. You know,
you're always looking at those scenarios.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
This year's quarterback class, I.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Mean there's some depth to it. I mean there's there's
good players for various reasons, different ages, different playtime experience.
There's there's there's quarterbacks in this draft that'll that'll go
on and play and be starters in the League of
the future. To speak, yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I know you said you don't think it's mandatory to
get a quarterback indership, but how surprised.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Would you be if you got through the entirety of.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
The drift and didn't have a didn't take a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
How surprised like a percentage or perc.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Going in in your head?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Do you think it's a likelies if you might end.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Up with a quarterback or do you think, yeah, where
do you stand on that?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
At this point?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I don't know whatever else is that you're dealing with,
you know, thirty one other teams and how they see
their boards. So yeah, if the value matches up with
with what we have on a player, and there's an
opportunity to take any position, we'll do it. But I'm
not going to force it if it's not the right value.
And again, if if the board lines up when we're
on the clock and that's the position that that that
we want to go with, we'll go with it. But
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you know, I'm not going to be back into a
corner on that. How do you decide when to play?
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Is worth a risk taking it where you might have
reservations on him, but you know it's worth the gamble
because there's other attributes that maybe he maybe he does hit.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, that's a good question too, And it's that the
issue doesn't change whatever it is depending on what it
is now. It could if it's medical. So if if
this guy has a you know it's coming off a
shoulder surgery, he's not gonna be ready till October, do
you drop that player a little bit since you're not
going to get into a week eight that's going to
get better. If a guy's not very smart or can't
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do something that you're going to ask him to do,
or there's something that's not going to get better that
maybe you're not comfortable with. Maybe it's the kid has
some background issues or something like that. If you drop
them and say, okay, we can't pass on this guy,
the issues are still the issues, So that that's that's
what we we're wrestling with, depending what the issue is
and the support system and ecosystem that we have in
place here with player development and the coaching staff and
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in the locker room, can we handle a player with
maybe an off field issue or maybe they're immature, or
you know, whatever it may be. We're weighing the pros
and cons and you know, can we fix what you
know may cause them to fall? Is the risk worth
the reward? And then you know, is that what we
want to bring in our locker room?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
How comfortable.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Up?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And have you made the decision?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, we haven't. We're gonna we'll probably wait to have
for the draft on that and.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Next week program starts.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Have discussions continue with Evan as falls maybe sliding over
the golf.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I haven't talked to Evan. Again. I'll echo what
I said two weeks ago at the owners meetings, like
he's gonna do whatever he can do, uh to help
the organization and do what's best for the Giants. So
you know, he's motivated, He's had a good off season,
he's been working hard, so you know, we're excited to
get him back in here and he's gonna do whatever
he can to help us.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
Speaking about what.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Have you heard, I guess the most recent update on
where Audol Carter is. Yeah, we have that meeting tomorrow
with with Ronnie and his crew, so we'll have some
more information. We've been in contact with. He was here
on Friday. I think that was pretty well reported. So
it feels good. He's working out, he's running. Didn't even
know he had it, you know, he went to the combine.
It was news to him. So I don't think there's
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gonna be much room for pause there with with the.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Drafts huner, who has said this week that he wants
to play both positions. When you meet with the player,
just how often do you discuss your fit, how you
want them to fit in with the universus, just kind
of what they envision their fit is.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, the players ask us that all the time. You know,
how do you see me fit with your organization? So
Travis is a unique individual, you know, again Dave said
it at the Owners means you got to watch a
lot of plays on him, So he's he's fun to watch.
It's it's unique that you know the ball skills, the
route ability, and then also the ability to go to
the other side and you know, play corner like you
just don't see that very often. You know, a lot
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of times if these guys can't catch or they can't
play receiver, then they get moved to dB. But you know,
this guy can do it all. So he's also you know,
he's a great kid, so it'd be hard to keep
him off the field. And you know he's motivated to
play both ways. So you know, again you're always worried
about the length of the season. You know, at the
NFL seventeen games and training camp, and you're just if
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he gets hurt doing something that he's not doing full time,
you know, you're going to kick yourself. But he's he's
a unique athlete that I think we'll be able to
do both. What do you do as his primary position? Jeez,
we're in a position. We're in a unique position that
you know, we have three good receivers and you know
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we like our secondary right now, so that'd be our
situation will be unique. So you know, would not be
afraid to play them on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That is, for a player to do it on both
sides full time.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I think it would be difficult, but he's proven that
he can do it and be available, So you know
that's the unique part. But you know, you're always concerned
with these guys. We're looking at the the workloads and
the yardage each day and then you know, to me,
what will what will have to be settled? Is the
mental part of it, because you know, the offense is
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very hard to learn, and then the defense on a
weekly basis, like you're it's not college anymore, where hey,
these are these are basic plays. This is our basic defense.
And we're gonna go play cover three against Kansas, We're
gonna play cover three against Nebraska. There's a lot more
week to week, you know, matchup type stuff that our
coaches are doing. So just how much can you handle
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mentally where you can go out there and execute and
they can trust you to do your job. So physically,
I wouldn't doubt the kid.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
When you look at Trevor, most people around the league
seem to say like he has all world potential a corner.
He also has all world potential at receiver. I mean,
do you share that boat where he can be that
good at both spots?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't doubt the kid.
I mean, he's he's that type of athlete and he's
had that type of I mean, it's it's insane the
amount of Snapsy played, amount of snapsy plays a game,
doesn't sit down, You goes over, gets a drink of water,
and gets back out on the field. So he's got
that type of athleticism, he's got the right mindset. He's
a great kid. So I wouldn't doubt him.
Speaker 9 (15:16):
The future in terms of you know, looking ahead, signing
guys in the salary.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Cap and all of that. When you think about.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Potentially trading assets, you know, to move around in the draft,
do you sort of take the long view as far
as not only what assets you might have in the future,
but but what the drafts might look like long term.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, for sure, Yeah, yeah, we take all that into account.
Usually if you're gonna it depends, so like if you're
looking long term, it's you know, you got to make
sure it's a player that you really like if you're
talking about trading future future assets. But but yeah, we
take all that into account.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Is that you know, set up like he is for
you as to where he might fit in, is you're
such a thing as too many pass rushers in your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I don't think so. I mean everybody watched the Super Bowl, right,
Philly rushed with how many for the whole game? So
that was that's that's one way to do it. So yeah,
I mean if you think about any of these players,
you know that you know may or may not be
in the mix. Uh, you know, as a unique player
like him that played off the ball for two years
and then he's only played one season, you know, off
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off the edge and you know, had a really good season.
You know, then you you got cave on and you
got burns, you got decks inside, you got I mean
there's just he gives you a lot of options, you know,
as a versatile player. He's young, just you know, it's
twenty one years old and you know, exciting player to watch.
But yeah, you can't you can't have enough. You have
have enough pass rushers.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Would you spot for him.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Given that you know primarily he's I think once up
the same spots as.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
The other best.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, we would find a way. You know, we find
it's no different than with Travis Hunter. Like we could
and you got a first round corner and we just
brought in Paulson, and you know, we got three. Like
you figure it out, Like you've got good football players,
you figure out find a way to get them on
get them on the field, and utilize.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Them as the best player available. Line with the most
important player to your organization. Like the need that you have.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Do you have to kind of balance that year? Yeah,
you're always doing that. You're always you're always balancing that.
But again, I've tried to set it up each year
that we can go into the draft and we can
play a game and you know, the hope is that
you're you're better than you were the year before as
of today or you know, next Thursday when we go
to play the game. So if there is a blue
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chip or generational type talent or something you just can't
pass on, even if you maybe already have starters of
that position, you just you don't pass on that type
of player. So you know, again then if if you
go need base, that's when you know, I think sometimes
you know you can make you know, you can make
mistakes at times, So you know, again, I like to
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go in so you're not backed into a corner where
you have to take a certain position and you could
take the best player available.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
I don't expect you to literally he answer this question directly,
But do you have a pretty good idea or do
you know what's going to happen at one and two
at this point or are you still in the information
gathering process waiting to try to figure out what's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, it's still in the information gathering process. I mean, again,
we sell my guys when we look at our board
or free agency or values that we assume everybody sees
it like us, and that's not always the case. So
still gathering information. I mean there's rumors of what what
teams may or may not do. But you know what
we can control is, hey, come up with three players
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we're happy with and rank those guys and if they
don't go in that order, they go in a different order,
knowing who we like best of those three players, and
you know that that's what we can control. But yeah, still,
you know there's still a rumor mill. It's it's that
time of year, it's you know, rumors everywhere. So have
somewhat of a sense that I think will happen, But
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you know, obviously I don't know that for a fact, Like.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I'm sure every year when you guys come together for
your meetings that people have different ideas.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
About one, two, three, four.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
You know, were there a lot more divergent ideas this
time or or was we just kind of walking in the.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Room, say, everybody's got.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Hid number one.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah. So we have the horizontal board, which is you know,
it's a quarterback running back, you know, all the way
across offense versus defense. And then we do a vertical stack.
So that's where we just did it this past weekend
with the scouts. They just left last night or actually
this morning, the scouts left, but we were finished up
our meetings last night. And that's where you get into
the you know, the the hard conversations because if these
two players are there, which is a reality like they
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may be there, who are going to take and why?
So there's a lot of respectful debates in the draft
room when when it comes down to and a lot
of times it's two good players or two players we
really like. That's where there's discrepancies in the room. And
ultimately I'm tasked with making the final decision. But you know,
we'll we'll phone in the coaches and you know, get
their opinion if those guys are there, or if it's
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two positions and we love both players, which which position
you know best helps the New York Giants? Like we
love both players, it's the same value. You know, who's
going to help us the best? So, you know it
is it's a it's a collaborative process. You know, scouts
do a great job. They're on the road one hundred
and fifty days a year and they know these players
inside it out. And then we bring the coaches in
and get their opinion and if if there's discrepancies, which
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that's what this week and early in the next week is,
we'll we'll work through or we'll we'll get the film
and watch it together and okay, let me see if
we can see what you see or you know, we
try to coherse them into you know, seeing them how
how we like them. So it's a good process. It's
a good group of people, a lot of good professionals,
and you know, the collaboration and communication has been is
very good.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is John Marra going to Boulder tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
With you guys? John Mason? What does what.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Does leadership look like to you at the quarterback position?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know, to me, probably one of the best I've
seen is you know I've been around are the ones
that I've been around, or you know, the ability to
to motivate and get people to follow, you know, to
to bring the team up when things are down and
and motivate the rest of the group. And we we
talk about a lot. You know, you're you're the face
(21:19):
of the franchise, so like people are watching you, all
eyes are on you, and you know your work ethic,
how you approach the game. You know your ability to
interact and connect teammates, and you know, across both sides
of the ball, offense, defense. You know, I think that's
all that's all really important. You know at that position specifically,
(21:42):
you know, trying to get on.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
The same page.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Is it especially important that the organization that everybody's on
the same page. If you're looking at a quarterback and
if there is a discrepancy, how do you break that
tie or do you just pass on that on that player?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah? Know, ultimately decision falls on me. So you go
through the whole process and there are describing there's there's
been discrepancies in all different rounds, all different positions and
in minia drafts, and ultimately you know, final say typically
goes with the general manager, so you ultimately got if
there's a discrepancy and at the end of the day,
I'm convicted, you know, that's the decision has to be made.
(22:22):
So that's that's how we do it. Training down, Yeah,
well we'll be open to all options. I mean, those
type of strategy sessions have been ongoing and you know,
talking through different scenarios. So yeah, well we're always going
to be open to you know, either or those scenarios
of interest from teams looking to train up. We we've
(22:43):
received some calls. Yeah, we've received some calls.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Well, obviously don't want to be three in the future,
but in this position, do you feel you can't miss
on a player at this point? I mean pretty much
a lot of rankings have can't forward. Going one, you
have a quality of to have Travis on Germany. That
seems to be a pretty consensus. One, two, three You
may different with that. I don't know, but I mean
(23:07):
do you think at number three, if you just sit
there and you say we have top three players rank
whoever is there, you feel like it's almost as.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Much of a campus players is possible in a drift.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We like we like our options. We like who will
be there? Would like who'll be there?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
As is your fourth drift? Right?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You haven't had a chance.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
To put in the car for a quarterback yet? Is that?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Is that an inch?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Is that something that gems you know you want to do?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You want?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah? Where we are? Yeah, I mean it's you would
like to have, you know, a young franchise quarterback. I
think every general manager would be you know, everybody wants that,
you know, so, but the value has to be right
or it's not. It doesn't matter. I mean, you get
that one wrong, you know, you just got to get
that right. So when in a position to get the
right one at the right time, that's when you pull
(23:51):
the trigger, Joe.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
More lose the ability you want right now? Could that
change the worrow? Could that change on Thursday?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, we're still working again. We're gonna run out the
shot clock here. We have until next Thursday. So we're
going to continue to keep doing our due diligence. And
you know, I think a lot of teams around the
league are doing the same thing we're doing right now.
They're in meetings. So the phone calls usually pick up,
you know, early next week when guys are out of
meetings and you're you're getting close to the draft, and
you know, we'll continue to make our calls to whether
it's college coaches, high school coaches, you know, whatever research
(24:22):
we need to continue to do. And you again, that's
that's been our process. And you know, uh, what are
good on Thursday?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What's your urgency to find a young franchise quarterback industry?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, like again, everybody wants one of those. You know,
yeah Land won this year. No, I mean if there's
not if there's not one, or you don't perceive there
to be one, or it's not available when you pick,
I mean, that's that's out of your control. So I mean, yeah,
we we would love to have one. If if there's
one available, we will definitely take.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
One's strength of the drafts and defensive line is very strong.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Running back you've used this draft as a whole with
the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Aside for a second.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I think the D line group and the edge
group for us, you know, the outside backers and D
line is a really deep group. I would say running
backs is a deep group. Corners, you know, there's some
depth a corners, So I mean those would be the
ones where you know. I think there's some good depth.
There's some high end guys at other positions, just maybe
(25:26):
not as much depth
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