August 14, 2025 • 12 mins
Outside linebacker Kayvon Thibodeaux speaks to the media Thursday ahead of this weekend's preseason matchup against the Jets.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just wanted to know from a physicality standpoint. I mean,
obviously everybody always looks at your position and trading analyzes
the speed and the technique, and I'm just curious for you,
over the years, how much how much more physical do
you think guys don't appreciate you have to be in
order to be able to do play the complete game
(00:21):
that you want to play well.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I think, you know, people don't really watch the tape.
People watch the highlights. I think it was a you know,
a kind of a video that Von Miller came out
and talked about as a pass rusher. He's a legend obviously,
but he you know, he talked about how all the
finesse moves and all the pretty stuff. It looks cool
it's on highlights, but most of your sacks actually come
off hard work, and most of the time it's either
(00:43):
some form of power or some form of like a
second effort move.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's why one thing with edge players you see a
lot is motor right, their motors high because most of
the time sacks don't just come off the first move.
They come off of, you know, the second move. And
if you're coming off of a second move, it's probably
because you had to go some form of power. So
for me, not just looking at you know, the past
rush side of it, but also in the run game,
you know, you got to be physical, you got to
be strong to uh set edges and really do your
(01:09):
complete job. So I think in my game specifically, you know,
power is definitely something I lean on just to make
sure that I'm always affecting the quarterback. You know, it
may not be a pretty move, but if I can
put that tackle on the quarterback's lap, you know I
affected the play.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thanks man, appreciate.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Back.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It came are you doing, Bruz?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It came on with Brian Abdul and Dexter. Besides you
do you feel like this will give you an even
greater opportunity to wreck it?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think it'll give us all opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You know, this is one of those things where we'll
have to see how the cards play out, on which
way they slide, which way they you know, chip or
things like that. But I definitely think it's gonna be
a great opportunity for all of us. It's gonna be
a racist quarterback, you know. I was laughing with with
Decks about it, like he's already the fastest guy because
he's the closest, but now you got even faster guy
would have duel in there, and you still got Burns
(02:05):
on the other side. So we're definitely gonna be a
nail biting to see who gets that sack.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Have you set personal goals yourself or do you kind
of let it unfold as it happens.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No, I always have personal goals.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think I start off with just trying to be
the best and trying to break the record. You know,
I'm always going for the league record or straight hands
record when it comes to sacks and tackles and things
like that. So for me, you know, I also just
want to play my best ball, whatever that looks like.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So not only the numbers, but having the film to
match it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So for me right now I'm in this part of
the season, I'm focused on having the film to match
how I want to play.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Thank you, my friend Evan Barnes, how we doing doing great?
Man good?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Brian Burns talked to us recently about how he said
last year he kind of put the switch and things
started to click a little bit more. For you, I'm
curious that if you could make us through that kind
of what changed and how is that carrying over you
think into your preparations.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
For this season. Well, I would say coaching.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, when you go and you watch other than
that first game where we got blown out, I think
if you start with game two and go on until
I was hurt, I had some great not only great rushes,
but some great run game. And I think when you
speak a flipping a switch, you know, good players only
become great quote unquote when they have good coaching. You know,
(03:28):
it's it's not a lot of times you see players
succeed without you know, good coaches around them. So we
definitely Charlie Bolon has been, you know, a great asset
to me and you know the rest of the guys
in the room, and continuing to kind of grow, you know,
not just grow my ability on the field, but know
what what weight I want to play at, know what
(03:50):
you know size, know what what side of the ball
I like, and just figuring out what works for me
and kind of just honing in on it, you know,
using it as my strength.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
And kind of you can elaborate more like what are
specific things that Charlie's kind of taught that you really
think is really you really latched onto. That's kind of
like helped you grow personally.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I don't think it's necessarily a certain technique, but I
think it's the consistency of greatness. You know, it's understanding that, yeah,
you know it, but let's just go over three more times.
I think it's that that ten thousand hour mindset.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Thanks Patti Traina, Hey, Kvon, how are you?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'm doing well?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Good, good, thanks for doing this. Came on just to
piggyback off the goal setting thing. Do you ever find
it by setting goals? You know, and obviously you have
high expectations for yourself, but do you ever find that
you know, it maybe puts a little too much pressure
on yourself as opposed to letting things develop organically. And
if so, how do you kind of manage the balance?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
For me, I kind of look at the opposite. I
feel like, if you don't have any goals, you don't
have any direction. You know, if you don't have any
things set out for what you want to do, it's
hard to figure out what you know you're gonna do.
So for me, I like to set the goals so
that I can at least set a standard and say,
am I playing to my standard, and that's why I've
added to not only just having the goals be the goals,
(05:13):
but then also having the film to back it up, right,
because you may not get you know, twenty two sacks,
you may not get one hundred and something tackles, but
if you do get you know, you fall somewhere in
between that, and then you have the film and the
hard work and everything to back that up, then you
know you can be considered, you know, still a top player.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
How much do you collaborate with the coaches and say, hey,
this year, I want to accomplish ABCND, and then how
much feedback do they give you as to as opposed to, well,
you know, we're going to use you this way, and
you know, maybe we refocus what you're what you're aiming for.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, I think when it comes to scheme and situation,
you got to play the scheme that's best fit for
the team. So when it comes to my goals, my
goals are based on my role on the team, So
not necessarily saying that coaches, you know, change the scheme
(06:10):
to help fit certain players' goals. But once you know
I've been in this scheme for a minute, I understand
this team. I understand what I'm asked to do, so
within that I can see how you know I'm able
to you know, succeed or what I'm able to accomplish
within it.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Thank you, Keevon, Thanks for doing this. Whenever I think
of Jets Giants Week, I think of that twenty twenty
two draft and you and Sauce and Garrett and Evan
all being top ten picks. Could you remind me, Kevin?
(06:47):
I don't even know if we've ever asked you this.
Did you think there was a chance you were going
to the Jets? Did you always know what was Giants
for you? Or did the Jets had that fourth pick
and took Sauce. Did you have like a Jets hat
near you? Did you think there was a chance you
were going there instead of here?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well? I think.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Honestly, no, I didn't. I didn't think I was gonna
go to the Jets. And it's funny, I'm gonna share
the story I took that. You know, when you go
on those thirty visits and you do those those tests. Man,
I was so tired, I was jet lagged, and they
had me doing the test and I just like, I
don't know why I couldn't do the test like it
just it was messing one of the tests were just
(07:24):
messing me up, and I just quit it and I
was like, yeah, they might not take me off that.
I'm like, yeah, they might not take me because I
was like, Yo, I'm too tired for this.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'm done. I guess you're pretty confident. Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It was definitely, you know you could have at that time,
at that part of the draft and that timing, I
didn't really know where I was gonna go. You know,
it was in between one, two, three, four or five
to all the way down to eight. So it was like,
you know, me, I was just grateful from wherever I went.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
And then the other thing I wanted to ask you
is what you saw out of Justin Fields this week?
Obviously New York, New York play against him these two days,
and you know, maybe on.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Saturday what you saw.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
He's a guy who's trying to revitalize his career in
this city. What did you see out of him going
against him these last two days?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know, man, it's tough for quarterbacks right now, especially
in practice, you know, especially for us, like we we
got guys like me you know me, Burns decks Chauncey
Nacho like he was under He was under a little
bit of pressure. So I can't really give you a full
analysis on what I think of him as a quarterback
because he did have to run and scramble and do
a lot of things. So yeah, you guys have to
(08:32):
probably take a look at that on your own.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Thanks Kevan, We'll take you two more. Paul Schwartz, Thank Avon.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
A couple of things for you. Have you noticed the
difference in Brian Burns. I mean, you know, he came
to a new team last year. You know, everybody kind
of needs to find their footing. He's talked about just
being a little different, more comfortable, more like himself. Have
you noticed anything this summer that says, oh, that's different
from the guy that I met last summer.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think one of you know, I think Burns is
a guy who's has all the talent, and I think
even though he's a he's a big vet.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
At this point in his.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Career, I felt like he has mastered his process and
from what I personally see, I see a big not
not really a big change, but I see consistency in
his process and how he's going about, you know, just
his whole life. So I think that can can you know,
transcend to the field, and I think he's gonna be
able to, you know, accomplish everything he wants to just
(09:32):
based on him knowing what he needs to do and
doing everything he needs to do, you know, to succeed.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Does his hustle in training camp, you know, roll over
to your hustle in training camp. He's not going to
out hustle me, you know this and then the next guy,
the next guy, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's definitely it's always that right, just being on the field.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Michael Strahan told me when I when I got drafted, like,
it's not about being one of the eleven guys out
on the field, It's about being v one out of
the eleven, you know. So for him, I know he
wants to be the best on the field. I want
to be the best on the field of duel all
the way to Javan, all the way to the corners
with you know, Tay Banks and a debo. But yeah,
it's definitely a competitiveness. But I also think, you know,
(10:14):
everybody is fighting their own battle, and for him, you know,
the sky's the limit, And for me, I love just
kind of feeding off, whether it's his talent, his energy
and vice versa.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Thanks last one, Tom rock Kevon. We talked a lot
about Abdul and you know how he's gonna make everybody better.
I'm wondering if there are any adjustments that you have
to make.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
To playing with somebody like him that his abilities are,
I guess are so unique and where he can line
up and where he come from, and he sort.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Of improvises a lot on the field. But do you
guys have to adjust to him as much as he
has to adjust.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
To I would say when on an individual standpoint, you know,
he fits right into the scheme. Honestly, I think the
adjustment now that we have a great young player on
the team and that is like him being young, is
probably the only adjustment that not necessarily has to be
made with the scheme.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
But you know, we got to take more account.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Burns got to communicate little more, you know, Bobby got
to communicate a little more. I gotta communicate little more.
We got to make sure that he's able to display
all of his talents while being you know, maximized, rather
than you know not. And I'm not saying rather than
because he's he's been amazing. But you can see sometimes
when you have all talented all world player, you know,
(11:33):
it's tough to almost limit your ability because you have
to do what the scheme says, or you have to
do you know, all eleven guys have to work together.
So it's finding that that fine tune balance between you know,
being great and also still doing what the eleven needs
you to do.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do you have to fund do you have to figure
out when he's gonna do those things, what he's gonna improvise?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, I think I think as he keeps I think
as he keeps playing, he's getting smarter now. He's you know,
even from the first three practices to the last three,
like he's been able to gain a lot of understanding
about you know, when when to do certain things, when
to take the inside, when to go high, when to
get you know, when to use certain moves or Yeah,
he's definitely getting smarter. He's he's buying in So I
(12:20):
don't I don't see it actually being anything. I think
it's gonna be great. Honestly, I think this guy's the
limit
Just wanted to know from a physicality standpoint. I mean,
obviously everybody always looks at your position and trading analyzes
the speed and the technique, and I'm just curious for you,
over the years, how much how much more physical do
you think guys don't appreciate you have to be in
order to be able to do play the complete game
(00:21):
that you want to play well.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I think, you know, people don't really watch the tape.
People watch the highlights. I think it was a you know,
a kind of a video that Von Miller came out
and talked about as a pass rusher. He's a legend obviously,
but he you know, he talked about how all the
finesse moves and all the pretty stuff. It looks cool
it's on highlights, but most of your sacks actually come
off hard work, and most of the time it's either
(00:43):
some form of power or some form of like a
second effort move.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's why one thing with edge players you see a
lot is motor right, their motors high because most of
the time sacks don't just come off the first move.
They come off of, you know, the second move. And
if you're coming off of a second move, it's probably
because you had to go some form of power. So
for me, not just looking at you know, the past
rush side of it, but also in the run game,
you know, you got to be physical, you got to
be strong to uh set edges and really do your
(01:09):
complete job. So I think in my game specifically, you know,
power is definitely something I lean on just to make
sure that I'm always affecting the quarterback. You know, it
may not be a pretty move, but if I can
put that tackle on the quarterback's lap, you know I
affected the play.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Thanks man, appreciate.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Back.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It came are you doing, Bruz?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
It came on with Brian Abdul and Dexter. Besides you
do you feel like this will give you an even
greater opportunity to wreck it?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think it'll give us all opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You know, this is one of those things where we'll
have to see how the cards play out, on which
way they slide, which way they you know, chip or
things like that. But I definitely think it's gonna be
a great opportunity for all of us. It's gonna be
a racist quarterback, you know. I was laughing with with
Decks about it, like he's already the fastest guy because
he's the closest, but now you got even faster guy
would have duel in there, and you still got Burns
(02:05):
on the other side. So we're definitely gonna be a
nail biting to see who gets that sack.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Have you set personal goals yourself or do you kind
of let it unfold as it happens.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No, I always have personal goals.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think I start off with just trying to be
the best and trying to break the record. You know,
I'm always going for the league record or straight hands
record when it comes to sacks and tackles and things
like that. So for me, you know, I also just
want to play my best ball, whatever that looks like.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So not only the numbers, but having the film to
match it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So for me right now I'm in this part of
the season, I'm focused on having the film to match
how I want to play.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Thank you, my friend Evan Barnes, how we doing doing great?
Man good?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Brian Burns talked to us recently about how he said
last year he kind of put the switch and things
started to click a little bit more. For you, I'm
curious that if you could make us through that kind
of what changed and how is that carrying over you
think into your preparations.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
For this season. Well, I would say coaching.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know, when you go and you watch other than
that first game where we got blown out, I think
if you start with game two and go on until
I was hurt, I had some great not only great rushes,
but some great run game. And I think when you
speak a flipping a switch, you know, good players only
become great quote unquote when they have good coaching. You know,
(03:28):
it's it's not a lot of times you see players
succeed without you know, good coaches around them. So we
definitely Charlie Bolon has been, you know, a great asset
to me and you know the rest of the guys
in the room, and continuing to kind of grow, you know,
not just grow my ability on the field, but know
what what weight I want to play at, know what
(03:50):
you know size, know what what side of the ball
I like, and just figuring out what works for me
and kind of just honing in on it, you know,
using it as my strength.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
And kind of you can elaborate more like what are
specific things that Charlie's kind of taught that you really
think is really you really latched onto. That's kind of
like helped you grow personally.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I don't think it's necessarily a certain technique, but I
think it's the consistency of greatness. You know, it's understanding that, yeah,
you know it, but let's just go over three more times.
I think it's that that ten thousand hour mindset.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Thanks Patti Traina, Hey, Kvon, how are you?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'm doing well?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Good, good, thanks for doing this. Came on just to
piggyback off the goal setting thing. Do you ever find
it by setting goals? You know, and obviously you have
high expectations for yourself, but do you ever find that
you know, it maybe puts a little too much pressure
on yourself as opposed to letting things develop organically. And
if so, how do you kind of manage the balance?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
For me, I kind of look at the opposite. I
feel like, if you don't have any goals, you don't
have any direction. You know, if you don't have any
things set out for what you want to do, it's
hard to figure out what you know you're gonna do.
So for me, I like to set the goals so
that I can at least set a standard and say,
am I playing to my standard, and that's why I've
added to not only just having the goals be the goals,
(05:13):
but then also having the film to back it up, right,
because you may not get you know, twenty two sacks,
you may not get one hundred and something tackles, but
if you do get you know, you fall somewhere in
between that, and then you have the film and the
hard work and everything to back that up, then you
know you can be considered, you know, still a top player.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
How much do you collaborate with the coaches and say, hey,
this year, I want to accomplish ABCND, and then how
much feedback do they give you as to as opposed to, well,
you know, we're going to use you this way, and
you know, maybe we refocus what you're what you're aiming for.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, I think when it comes to scheme and situation,
you got to play the scheme that's best fit for
the team. So when it comes to my goals, my
goals are based on my role on the team, So
not necessarily saying that coaches, you know, change the scheme
(06:10):
to help fit certain players' goals. But once you know
I've been in this scheme for a minute, I understand
this team. I understand what I'm asked to do, so
within that I can see how you know I'm able
to you know, succeed or what I'm able to accomplish
within it.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Thank you, Keevon, Thanks for doing this. Whenever I think
of Jets Giants Week, I think of that twenty twenty
two draft and you and Sauce and Garrett and Evan
all being top ten picks. Could you remind me, Kevin?
(06:47):
I don't even know if we've ever asked you this.
Did you think there was a chance you were going
to the Jets? Did you always know what was Giants
for you? Or did the Jets had that fourth pick
and took Sauce. Did you have like a Jets hat
near you? Did you think there was a chance you
were going there instead of here?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well? I think.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Honestly, no, I didn't. I didn't think I was gonna
go to the Jets. And it's funny, I'm gonna share
the story I took that. You know, when you go
on those thirty visits and you do those those tests. Man,
I was so tired, I was jet lagged, and they
had me doing the test and I just like, I
don't know why I couldn't do the test like it
just it was messing one of the tests were just
(07:24):
messing me up, and I just quit it and I
was like, yeah, they might not take me off that.
I'm like, yeah, they might not take me because I
was like, Yo, I'm too tired for this.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I'm done. I guess you're pretty confident. Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It was definitely, you know you could have at that time,
at that part of the draft and that timing, I
didn't really know where I was gonna go. You know,
it was in between one, two, three, four or five
to all the way down to eight. So it was like,
you know, me, I was just grateful from wherever I went.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
And then the other thing I wanted to ask you
is what you saw out of Justin Fields this week?
Obviously New York, New York play against him these two days,
and you know, maybe on.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Saturday what you saw.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
He's a guy who's trying to revitalize his career in
this city. What did you see out of him going
against him these last two days?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know, man, it's tough for quarterbacks right now, especially
in practice, you know, especially for us, like we we
got guys like me you know me, Burns decks Chauncey
Nacho like he was under He was under a little
bit of pressure. So I can't really give you a full
analysis on what I think of him as a quarterback
because he did have to run and scramble and do
a lot of things. So yeah, you guys have to
(08:32):
probably take a look at that on your own.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Thanks Kevan, We'll take you two more. Paul Schwartz, Thank Avon.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
A couple of things for you. Have you noticed the
difference in Brian Burns. I mean, you know, he came
to a new team last year. You know, everybody kind
of needs to find their footing. He's talked about just
being a little different, more comfortable, more like himself. Have
you noticed anything this summer that says, oh, that's different
from the guy that I met last summer.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think one of you know, I think Burns is
a guy who's has all the talent, and I think
even though he's a he's a big vet.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
At this point in his.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Career, I felt like he has mastered his process and
from what I personally see, I see a big not
not really a big change, but I see consistency in
his process and how he's going about, you know, just
his whole life. So I think that can can you know,
transcend to the field, and I think he's gonna be
able to, you know, accomplish everything he wants to just
(09:32):
based on him knowing what he needs to do and
doing everything he needs to do, you know, to succeed.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Does his hustle in training camp, you know, roll over
to your hustle in training camp. He's not going to
out hustle me, you know this and then the next guy,
the next guy, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's definitely it's always that right, just being on the field.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Michael Strahan told me when I when I got drafted, like,
it's not about being one of the eleven guys out
on the field, It's about being v one out of
the eleven, you know. So for him, I know he
wants to be the best on the field. I want
to be the best on the field of duel all
the way to Javan, all the way to the corners
with you know, Tay Banks and a debo. But yeah,
it's definitely a competitiveness. But I also think, you know,
(10:14):
everybody is fighting their own battle, and for him, you know,
the sky's the limit, And for me, I love just
kind of feeding off, whether it's his talent, his energy
and vice versa.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Thanks last one, Tom rock Kevon. We talked a lot
about Abdul and you know how he's gonna make everybody better.
I'm wondering if there are any adjustments that you have
to make.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
To playing with somebody like him that his abilities are,
I guess are so unique and where he can line
up and where he come from, and he sort.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Of improvises a lot on the field. But do you
guys have to adjust to him as much as he
has to adjust.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
To I would say when on an individual standpoint, you know,
he fits right into the scheme. Honestly, I think the
adjustment now that we have a great young player on
the team and that is like him being young, is
probably the only adjustment that not necessarily has to be
made with the scheme.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
But you know, we got to take more account.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Burns got to communicate little more, you know, Bobby got
to communicate a little more. I gotta communicate little more.
We got to make sure that he's able to display
all of his talents while being you know, maximized, rather
than you know not. And I'm not saying rather than
because he's he's been amazing. But you can see sometimes
when you have all talented all world player, you know,
(11:33):
it's tough to almost limit your ability because you have
to do what the scheme says, or you have to
do you know, all eleven guys have to work together.
So it's finding that that fine tune balance between you know,
being great and also still doing what the eleven needs
you to do.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do you have to fund do you have to figure
out when he's gonna do those things, what he's gonna improvise?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, I think I think as he keeps I think
as he keeps playing, he's getting smarter now. He's you know,
even from the first three practices to the last three,
like he's been able to gain a lot of understanding
about you know, when when to do certain things, when
to take the inside, when to go high, when to
get you know, when to use certain moves or Yeah,
he's definitely getting smarter. He's he's buying in So I
(12:20):
don't I don't see it actually being anything. I think
it's gonna be great. Honestly, I think this guy's the
limit
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