October 16, 2025 • 9 mins
Special teams coordinator Michael Ghobrial speaks to the media Thursday from the Quest Diagnostics Training Center.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jude hasn't had a bunch of attempts, but just what
have you seen from him in these three games?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, aside from the one mishit pat that he had
last game, I think he's done a nice job in
the games. With opportunities that he's had, he's been able
to excel in them. And that's something obviously that is
expected from whoever the kicker is out there is whenever
we send you out there, expectation as we come out
with points. So he's shown a level of consistency with
that and in practice had a nice day yesterday and
(00:27):
something that he'll obviously stay connected to with just being
the best version of himself so we can continue to
score points with him.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Is you know you see around the league there's just
these monster legs and you know, sixty Indian.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
And they're taking him and hitting a lot of them.
Is he a guy that you think is just a
guy that's okay right now? Or do you think he's
a wasn't serviceable and you think he can be a weapon. Yeah,
we really like Dan say we haven't seen it. Yeah,
we we have a lot of confidence in Jude.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He does have the lake strength that you're seeing across
the league, and if you see his frame, he's not
built like a small person.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You know, he has some power to him.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He's strong in the weight room, he has good flexibility
to him, and I think that equates to him having
the ability to hit the big ball obviously, like in
the games, will take a common sense approach, you know,
when we send him out there and just we know
that if we need a kick from far distance, he
does have the ability to do so.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Is it different one of the guys I'm proven like him,
when you're setting the line of the game, maybe you're
gonna be a little bit more conservative where it's something
like Graham. You've seen him do it a million times.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, you know, I think at this point having him
kick obviously a game last year in the preseason, and
now obviously kicking on our active roster here these past
couple of games, we have confidence in him, just like
we have confidence in Graham to be able to be
sent out there whenever his opportunity arises.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Have you guys continued the competition with and practice the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, Yeah, that's something that will always stay connected to
and again that that's to me just what the National
Football League. Uh is about his competition and ultimately showing
up every day and being the best version of yourself.
And you know, I truly believe that equates to better
production from all parties involved in that competition.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So we'll continue to work with kop and we'll continue
to work with with.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Jud Yeah, you'll have to ask Dave's on that injury wise,
not sure about that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Is what has Jamie done well?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Then?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
On the kickoff so that what have you seen from
him in that regard? Yeah, his his placement has been elite,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's that's also helps the coverage aspect on both kickoff
and punt. His ability to directionally kick and that's something
again that whenever you have a punter that has the
ability to kick off as well, I think it creates
a lot of game day value for him because again,
you don't know whether you're going to have more kickoffs
than punts, more punts than kickoffs, So the ability to
(02:51):
keep them in the flow of game, the ability to
be able to use them in both regards, I think
is very valuable for us. And I think he's done
an excellent job in terms of the locations on both phases.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean you mentioned a game day responsibilities. I mean
for Jamie right now being the holder and also do
kickoffs and punts. I mean, I you know the value
that he's broad.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Now as a player.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I gotta imagine that you guys look at him and say,
he's one of our most valuable guys to have in
the special teams.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And and I always think that if you want to
have good special teams, it starts with your specialists.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Your specialists have to be able to execute.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And the fact that Jamie does have the versatility to
obviously hold like many punters do, all right, but to
be able to punt like he does at a high
level in these conditions, and then also to be able
to kick off.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
But there is tremendous value in it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And he's a He's I've always thought of him as
a great teammate. He's a guy that studies the game,
and he's a guy that ultimately wants to.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Be the best for this football team.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He's one of the like I said, he's one of
the best teammates that we have, and he thrives with
that type of responsibility and understands the importance of it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We always talk about you know, that sort of backwards
spin the left hip where the punters have the same thing,
go for kicks because.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You still you have to hit the sweet spot more often.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Not. I know you're seeing more dirty kicks across the league,
but whether you're right you're lefty, when you hit those
dirty kicks, they're going to come out oddball regardless. When
you're hitting a traditional kickoff, the rotation of it is
still up and down, So still the goal is almost
to hit the sweet spot and make sure that ball
is in the in the landing zone.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So there's no real difference between left not entirely like.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But but again, like when you look across the league
and you see those dirty kicks, that's when you're like, Okay,
is that because he's a writer?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Is that he's because he's a lefty.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's honestly, that rotation of the ball when people are
trying to hit those dirty kicks is I mean, you
don't know where it's going to go.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You know, whether you're right you're lefty. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
haply good factor his Dane becomes. It seems like he's
become like a force for you guys in regards to
coverage and coverage units. Yeah, Dane is playing at a
Pro Bowl level.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
He is number one in the league in special teams tackles,
and you see all his study habits, all his hard
work this offseason of improving the things that he needed
to show up on game day, and it's infectious.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I mean, the.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Guy has been playing really really well for us, and
you know, I want to make note of the fact
that it's it is elite right now, playing at that
Pro Bowl level, and that consistency to do it from
a game in, game out basis ultimately elevates everybody else,
but really fired up for him the success that he's happened.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
The pros and cons of the rugby kick. Jamie hither
One kind of rolled out to his left right kicked it.
What's the every time? So why why do what? What's it?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah? You know that that's something he grew up doing.
You know, he grew up playing rugby and that is
ultimately how he learned to punt. So that was the
first instance in which he started punting a football.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Was like that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then my job as always to try it design
these things to to sorry. My job is to design
whether it plays, whether it be certain techniques to feature
their biggest strengths, and since that is a big strength
of his, that is something that we could obviously stay
(06:19):
connected to. But he's been able to excel in traditional
punting too, so again the versatility with Jamie, that's been
awesome to have.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Guns especially odd. I mean, he seems like a unique character.
He told me yesterday about how you can fire him
up doing games. He loves more people love.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He was even getting at it and say of the sidelines,
how's like, coach, what are you seeing.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
From him as a going on.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
There's a lot of passion with Art Green, and that
passion obviously shows up on game day with the energy,
the enthusiasm. The passion also shows up during the week.
Art truly wants to be the best. And when you
have those aspirations of being the best, it takes uncommon
work ethic. And to me, what's on is studying more
(07:01):
than just the given material, asking questions more than just
the simple questions. And that's something that Art Green has
been able to do. And you know what's cool about
having Nick Jones and Art Green is they kind of
feed off each other and are very competitive with one
another too. So when one person gets a tackle, it's
I got that one, and then the next guy is like, Okay,
I'm gonna get the next one, and it ultimately again competition,
(07:22):
to me, elevates the level of of both those guys.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Always jacked up even in meetings there because he seems
like a guy is always on.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
A high levels.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There is energy with with Art Green, always yeah, and
he doesn't pick and choose when he wants to be
that person, and that, to me is the ultimate sign
of respect is when you're the same guy every day.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So tons of respect for Art.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You surprised that that teams have kicked to Gunner the
last few weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Uh, not necessarily surprised.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I think you know when you have you know, guys
like Take, guys like Motor, guys like Gunner. All those
guys have had success returning the ball for us this year.
So both those guys in that regard or you're like, Okay,
should we kick it a Gunner, should we kick it
at Tay, should we kick it a Motor? Whoever it is,
those guys have taken advantage of those opportunities. So the
(08:10):
production has been equivalent with both those guys and Gunner
did have a few more opportunities last game, and that
was cool to see them have success again because it
kind of felt like teams were favoring away from him.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
When the ball is in his hands because obviously you
guys see the run skill in the production on kickoff
return and on put return, So whenever you can get
the ball in his hand, it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
The altitude in fact to kicking in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
The ball traditionally flies a little bit further went with
higher altitude, and you know, depending on the wind factor
on game day, the wind could play into it as well,
because when the ball is having a little bit more
rise on it, sometimes the wind can play into whether
the ball continues to carry a certain direction, whether versus
whether it doesn't. You know, when you're at sea level
(08:56):
and you're hitting a traditional kick, it's somewhat stays to
what you would think it is. And then obviously at
altso Jude, there is a little bit more rise than
sea level
Jude hasn't had a bunch of attempts, but just what
have you seen from him in these three games?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, aside from the one mishit pat that he had
last game, I think he's done a nice job in
the games. With opportunities that he's had, he's been able
to excel in them. And that's something obviously that is
expected from whoever the kicker is out there is whenever
we send you out there, expectation as we come out
with points. So he's shown a level of consistency with
that and in practice had a nice day yesterday and
(00:27):
something that he'll obviously stay connected to with just being
the best version of himself so we can continue to
score points with him.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Is you know you see around the league there's just
these monster legs and you know, sixty Indian.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
And they're taking him and hitting a lot of them.
Is he a guy that you think is just a
guy that's okay right now? Or do you think he's
a wasn't serviceable and you think he can be a weapon. Yeah,
we really like Dan say we haven't seen it. Yeah,
we we have a lot of confidence in Jude.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He does have the lake strength that you're seeing across
the league, and if you see his frame, he's not
built like a small person.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You know, he has some power to him.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He's strong in the weight room, he has good flexibility
to him, and I think that equates to him having
the ability to hit the big ball obviously, like in
the games, will take a common sense approach, you know,
when we send him out there and just we know
that if we need a kick from far distance, he
does have the ability to do so.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Is it different one of the guys I'm proven like him,
when you're setting the line of the game, maybe you're
gonna be a little bit more conservative where it's something
like Graham. You've seen him do it a million times.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, you know, I think at this point having him
kick obviously a game last year in the preseason, and
now obviously kicking on our active roster here these past
couple of games, we have confidence in him, just like
we have confidence in Graham to be able to be
sent out there whenever his opportunity arises.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Have you guys continued the competition with and practice the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, Yeah, that's something that will always stay connected to
and again that that's to me just what the National
Football League. Uh is about his competition and ultimately showing
up every day and being the best version of yourself.
And you know, I truly believe that equates to better
production from all parties involved in that competition.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So we'll continue to work with kop and we'll continue
to work with with.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Jud Yeah, you'll have to ask Dave's on that injury wise,
not sure about that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Is what has Jamie done well?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Then?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
On the kickoff so that what have you seen from
him in that regard? Yeah, his his placement has been elite,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's that's also helps the coverage aspect on both kickoff
and punt. His ability to directionally kick and that's something
again that whenever you have a punter that has the
ability to kick off as well, I think it creates
a lot of game day value for him because again,
you don't know whether you're going to have more kickoffs
than punts, more punts than kickoffs, So the ability to
(02:51):
keep them in the flow of game, the ability to
be able to use them in both regards, I think
is very valuable for us. And I think he's done
an excellent job in terms of the locations on both phases.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean you mentioned a game day responsibilities. I mean
for Jamie right now being the holder and also do
kickoffs and punts. I mean, I you know the value
that he's broad.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Now as a player.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I gotta imagine that you guys look at him and say,
he's one of our most valuable guys to have in
the special teams.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And and I always think that if you want to
have good special teams, it starts with your specialists.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Your specialists have to be able to execute.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And the fact that Jamie does have the versatility to
obviously hold like many punters do, all right, but to
be able to punt like he does at a high
level in these conditions, and then also to be able
to kick off.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
But there is tremendous value in it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And he's a He's I've always thought of him as
a great teammate. He's a guy that studies the game,
and he's a guy that ultimately wants to.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Be the best for this football team.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He's one of the like I said, he's one of
the best teammates that we have, and he thrives with
that type of responsibility and understands the importance of it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We always talk about you know, that sort of backwards
spin the left hip where the punters have the same thing,
go for kicks because.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You still you have to hit the sweet spot more often.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Not. I know you're seeing more dirty kicks across the league,
but whether you're right you're lefty, when you hit those
dirty kicks, they're going to come out oddball regardless. When
you're hitting a traditional kickoff, the rotation of it is
still up and down, So still the goal is almost
to hit the sweet spot and make sure that ball
is in the in the landing zone.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So there's no real difference between left not entirely like.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But but again, like when you look across the league
and you see those dirty kicks, that's when you're like, Okay,
is that because he's a writer?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Is that he's because he's a lefty.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's honestly, that rotation of the ball when people are
trying to hit those dirty kicks is I mean, you
don't know where it's going to go.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You know, whether you're right you're lefty. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
haply good factor his Dane becomes. It seems like he's
become like a force for you guys in regards to
coverage and coverage units. Yeah, Dane is playing at a
Pro Bowl level.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
He is number one in the league in special teams tackles,
and you see all his study habits, all his hard
work this offseason of improving the things that he needed
to show up on game day, and it's infectious.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I mean, the.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Guy has been playing really really well for us, and
you know, I want to make note of the fact
that it's it is elite right now, playing at that
Pro Bowl level, and that consistency to do it from
a game in, game out basis ultimately elevates everybody else,
but really fired up for him the success that he's happened.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
The pros and cons of the rugby kick. Jamie hither
One kind of rolled out to his left right kicked it.
What's the every time? So why why do what? What's it?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah? You know that that's something he grew up doing.
You know, he grew up playing rugby and that is
ultimately how he learned to punt. So that was the
first instance in which he started punting a football.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Was like that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then my job as always to try it design
these things to to sorry. My job is to design
whether it plays, whether it be certain techniques to feature
their biggest strengths, and since that is a big strength
of his, that is something that we could obviously stay
(06:19):
connected to. But he's been able to excel in traditional
punting too, so again the versatility with Jamie, that's been
awesome to have.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Guns especially odd. I mean, he seems like a unique character.
He told me yesterday about how you can fire him
up doing games. He loves more people love.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He was even getting at it and say of the sidelines,
how's like, coach, what are you seeing.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
From him as a going on.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
There's a lot of passion with Art Green, and that
passion obviously shows up on game day with the energy,
the enthusiasm. The passion also shows up during the week.
Art truly wants to be the best. And when you
have those aspirations of being the best, it takes uncommon
work ethic. And to me, what's on is studying more
(07:01):
than just the given material, asking questions more than just
the simple questions. And that's something that Art Green has
been able to do. And you know what's cool about
having Nick Jones and Art Green is they kind of
feed off each other and are very competitive with one
another too. So when one person gets a tackle, it's
I got that one, and then the next guy is like, Okay,
I'm gonna get the next one, and it ultimately again competition,
(07:22):
to me, elevates the level of of both those guys.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Always jacked up even in meetings there because he seems
like a guy is always on.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
A high levels.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There is energy with with Art Green, always yeah, and
he doesn't pick and choose when he wants to be
that person, and that, to me is the ultimate sign
of respect is when you're the same guy every day.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So tons of respect for Art.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You surprised that that teams have kicked to Gunner the
last few weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Uh, not necessarily surprised.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I think you know when you have you know, guys
like Take, guys like Motor, guys like Gunner. All those
guys have had success returning the ball for us this year.
So both those guys in that regard or you're like, Okay,
should we kick it a Gunner, should we kick it
at Tay, should we kick it a Motor? Whoever it is,
those guys have taken advantage of those opportunities. So the
(08:10):
production has been equivalent with both those guys and Gunner
did have a few more opportunities last game, and that
was cool to see them have success again because it
kind of felt like teams were favoring away from him.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So I'm really excited.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
When the ball is in his hands because obviously you
guys see the run skill in the production on kickoff
return and on put return, So whenever you can get
the ball in his hand, it's awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
The altitude in fact to kicking in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
The ball traditionally flies a little bit further went with
higher altitude, and you know, depending on the wind factor
on game day, the wind could play into it as well,
because when the ball is having a little bit more
rise on it, sometimes the wind can play into whether
the ball continues to carry a certain direction, whether versus
whether it doesn't. You know, when you're at sea level
(08:56):
and you're hitting a traditional kick, it's somewhat stays to
what you would think it is. And then obviously at
altso Jude, there is a little bit more rise than
sea level
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