December 4, 2025 • 26 mins
Merry Thanksgiving Weekend continues to purr right along, and Christmas at the Catnip Café might just be the cozy little furball of joy we didn’t know we needed. Starring Hallmark favorites Erin Cahill and Paul Campbell, this one whisks us to upstate New York, where Olivia inherits half a cat cafe and immediately starts plotting her escape - err, sale - before the holidays. The only hitch? Her co-owner, Dr. Ben Kane, a community-loving veterinarian who’s not about to let this feline haven go without a hissing fight. As they team up to save the cafe, raise funds, and wrangle a town full of adorable cats, sparks fly, hearts soften, and secrets about Olivia’s great aunt just might be the cat-alyst for a change of plans. Grab your cocoa and your lint roller - let’s dig in.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is a bramble Jam podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm
Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
On today's episode, we are discussing Christmas at the Catnip Cafe,
which originally aired on the Hallmark Channel Sunday, November thirtieth,
and is currently available to stream on Hallmark Plus. Hey friends,
welcome to any new listeners of the podcast. Keep up
with us throughout the year, not just during the holidays.
Don't go away when December is over. We're still making
(00:52):
content all year long, and you can find out what
we're doing over on Instagram where we are Girls Gone Hallmark.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, I mean Hallmark. They didn't actually announce it, but
some other Hallmark accounts recently announced the January movies.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's hidden on Hallmark's website. The information is there. They
just haven't made a big, bold statement, correct.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But we'll be reviewing the January movies, yeah, we will.
Everything else is kind of TBD.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, remains to be seen what else is happening in January,
but there will be plenty to come here on Girls
Gone Hallmark I have an.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Announcement to make. What is that.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This episode drops before our mailback episode?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh okay, never mind, Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm
gonna do it. I'm gonna need your help because I'm like, oh,
my last hanging by a thread.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, listen to tomorrow's mail back episode to figure out
what the heck when he's gonna do?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What are we gonna do? You heard it here first, folks,
I had forgotten that this is coming out before that,
So that's okay, okay, anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Why don't we talk about Christmas at the Catnip Cafe
and start with us up.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Olivia Pearce, a marketing executive, discovers her late Great aunts
Kat Cafe in New York, which she believes will be
a Christmas miracle. She helps plan fundraising events, gaining appreciation
for the feline inhabitants who in the chat, Gpute is writing,
(02:20):
are you I'm for real? I know I sound like
an idiot reading these sometimes because I don't read them
before I actually read them, and I and the thought process.
Can you see the brain? Like? Can you see the
wheels turning in my brain as I'm reading it? I'm
like this doesn't make any This doesn't make any sense.
So lately I have noticed that on Hallmark's websites that
(02:43):
about the movie synopsis is very unlimited to on where
is that even coming from our website? But I don't
have any idea why off the rails over here at
(03:04):
Girls Gone Hallmark? I am the ben Affleck meme right now, guys,
get me a cigarette. Okay, deep breath, let's unpack here.
First of all, I have no idea why my computer
just started playing that audio like that that wouldn't even
touch anything nothing. I don't know why I did that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Do you think what's happening is Hallmark's synopsis is very long.
Whoever's pushing it to IMDb needs it to be shorter,
doesn't want to do the work, runs it through chat, GPT,
copies and paste because they have no idea what the
movies about themselves? Yes, and then we get this word
salad dribble. Yes, that's exactly what I think is happening.
So y'all know if you watch the movie, Olivia's aunt dies,
(03:47):
she is trying to buy a home, needs a bigger
down payment.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Then the Catnip Cafe falls into her lap. As this
financial windfall, potentially potential. She wants to go and sell it,
and then we have our movie. So all this bit
about she helps plan fundraising events and gaining appreciate, I
mean that stuff happens too, but that is not the
synopsis of our movie. Correct, somebody please hire me at Homewark.
(04:17):
I would be happy to write your synopsis for you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Christmas at the Catnip Cafe was directed by a Lucy guest.
This marks Lucy's twentieth directing credit. Her other work includes
An Alpine Holiday, Providence Falls, The Santa Clas Jingle Bell Run,
and Sealed.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
With a List. You know what was funny when I
was writing these notes yesterday. I know, we had just
recently talked about Lucy when we reviewed An Alpine Holiday.
I was looking back through her IMDb Sealed with a
list was a great movie. You're like, we love that,
we love that movie. Every movie she does is so good.
She doesn't miss, she does not miss. She was also
(04:52):
in Holidays. She is an actor, yes, but I think
she's transitioning definitely directing more. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, When you look at a list like that, doesn't
it make you think like, oh, those movies are made
better because of their directing style.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Are those movies made better because they're made by a woman?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well? Sure, But also I think what I have noticed
when I start to look back, when I look at
these IMDb lists of these directors and writers. But I
think directors really interpret what's on the page. I think
the hot take the directors really make a difference in
the final product of the movie.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think so too, it matters. I think so too.
I'm a big fan of Lucy Guest. Also, the writing
credit goes to both Tracy Andrene and Alena Valdez. This
marks the second writing credit for Elena Valdez. Her previous
writing credit is for the twenty twenty one Hallmark movie
A Very Bridesmaid One. We've never watched a very Mery Bridesmaid, sorry,
(05:53):
a very Mary Bridesmaid, which is like I saw the
movie poster yesterday when I was putting these notes together.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It has like the the Osmet girl. You know what
I'm talking about, Haley's sister. It might be Haley, Haley's
the boy. Haley's the boyfriend Hailey Joel. He's from Jerry Maguire.
The human headweighs eight pounds.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think that's where my hate of children and movies
might have a couple of Jerry McGuire is one of
my favorite movies of all time. I don't know if
you knew that or not. I didn't know that a
romantic movie.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Can you believe that? It's because it leans heavy the
moneys and comedy?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah? Wait, I need to watch up?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Hailey Joel Osmond? Who's in that movie? He's He's in
the sixth Sense?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Isn't He's not the same?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Whoa? That is not the same? People?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Haley Joel Osmond has a beard, He's a full man.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Google it right now on your computer.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're sitting with each other, but we can't see each
other screens. Hold on, I'm looking to see what else
he's in. He's one hundred and thirty three acting credit.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It came out like thirty years ago. I hope he
is an Okay, Hailey Joel Osmond play little Forest? This
is not the not the guy that was it? Oh?
It's not.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And then he was in the sixth Sense in nineteen
ninety nine and twenty six years ago, and then quite
a few things since then.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Who's in Jerry McGuire? Sorry, Haley Joel Emily Osmond. Yeah,
that's that's not who's in Jerry mcgway. I know, but
that's who's in A very Merry Bridesmaid. Yes, Jonathan Lipniki, Yes, character,
and he is now thirty five years old. Christmas Tree
light's just flashed on and off. That's weird. I'm gonna
(07:38):
plug him. This is a ghost. It's turned the you
have a ghost. It turned the volume on on my
computer and now just search your lights off. Yes, I
feel like this is a Patreon episode. I know. Do
the listeners know my Ireland ghost Story? I don't think so,
because that was an episode on Long Story Short when
(08:00):
we kicked off our podcast originally in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know, if you ask nicely, I'll tell it again.
We are only two credits deep on News and Notes.
Why don't you finish up the writers?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Tracy Andrine has been working overtime this holiday season. This
marks her third movie in the twenty twenty five Countdown
to Christmas lineup. Her other two were A Grand Old
Opry Christmas Chef's Kiss and A Keller Christmas Vacation, also
well liked. She has a total of thirty nine writing credits.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Aaron Cahill stars as Olivia, and this marks her one
hundred and thirty seventh acting credit. For twenty twenty five,
Aaron starred in A Journey to You as well as
had an appearance in A Grand ol Opry Christmas. She
also played Nora Jacobs in the limited series Holidays.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Paul Campbell stars as Ben Kine. This is Paul's second
movie this holiday season. He was not in A Grand
ol Opry Christmas, but he was in Three Wisest Men
a few weeks ago, and this one marks his fifty
ninth acting credit.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Francis Flanagan plays Esther. This movie marks the seven any
first acting credit for Francis. She's appeared in tons of
Hallmark movies like A Reason for the Season, A Maple
Valley Christmas, and The twenty seven Hour Day What Else too?
Because when I wrote her name down, I was like,
and her.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Face is so familiar, familiar. I look back through her IMDb,
I was like, where is it at? Where's the one
movie that I'm like, that's where I know? It didn't
take a box for you, just has one of those faces.
Maybe yep Ian Collins plays frank Ian has forty four
acting credits and appeared Last and Signed, Sealed Delivered, A
(09:33):
Tale of Three Letters and Family Practice Mysteries Coming Home.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Megan Young plays Meredith. She has eighteen acting credits and
appeared as Rachel in all three of the Kissing Booth movies.
This is her first Hallmark movie. You seen the Kissing
Booth movies? The first one, I've never seen the second two.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't think I have either. I liked the first one.
I thought it was cute. I like that. Joey King,
sister of Hunter King. Yeah. Jess Brown plays Victoria. Jess
has twenty six acting credits and has appeared in other
Hallmark movies like An Unexpected Valentine and Santa Tell Me.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Darren Dolanski plays Walter. He has fifty four acting credits,
with appearances in Chesapeake Shores and Christmas Waltz.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Kimberly says that makes a surprise cameo as Merrily White,
her character from the Nine Lives of Christmas movies.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
An original song called Timeless Christmas, performed by Wes Brown
and Jenna Clair Mason, appears in this movie, as well
as Brad Paisley's Santa Claus Is come into Town. Do
you think they just sprinkled Brad Paisley's music in some
of these movies, kind of like last year how Brett
Eldridge was all over the holiday movies.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I don't remember that he was in Jingle Bell Run
and a few others. This movie was not based on
a novel by the same name.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Let's take a quick break and we'll come right back
with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy, what was your first
impression of Christmas at the Catnap Cafe. It's not so
much a first impression, but a thought. There's a certain
glow happening with Paul Campbell this season, and I'm not
(11:04):
exactly sure what it is, but something is translating on screen.
This reminds me of we recently watched the episode of
Gilmore Girls where Zach is asking Lane for some more
wink winkers nudge.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's all. That's all I had to say about that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
My first impression is who was in charge of casting
the felines?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Those cats were a ten.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Out of ten.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh, you're such a cat girl. Who could not love
those cats? I mean, I thought the cats were cute, Sure, bread,
I thought the cats were cute, which you know, I'm
a former Hallmark hater. Maybe I'm a former cat hater too.
Were you at one point in your life a cat hater?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I just prefer dogs. Yeah yeah, But if I had
a cat that was super into me, I could be
down with that. I just don't want to take a
risk and get a cat who's like I hate you,
Wendy and then is just living free in my home.
What did you like about it?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, you talked about Paul Campbell having a glow about him.
I really like this role for Paul Campbell. I thought
he was nurturing and loving and came across as very
natural on screen. To me, it was giving wedding every
weekend Paul Campbell, and overall this may be one of
(12:22):
my favorite roles of his.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I know he's usually the funny guy, but when he
gets vulnerable it works for me. And I think that
might be because I don't always love the sarcasm as
a defense mechanism that I think is his typical Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I was afraid he was going
to lean too hard into the I'm annoyed and irritated
with you, Olivia. That guy m but he I mean,
there's moments of that, but overall, like watching him soften
was a pleasurable viewing experience for me because I was
(13:00):
expecting him to be this sort of like yeah and
rauch irritation are earned, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Because she's kind of behaving in an irritating way, even
if you agree with her decision making, which I don't,
and we'll talk about it. But he runs this cat
cafe which he's passionate about, and she wants to close it,
and there's.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Nothing he can do about it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Apparently seems like if it wants to be sold, he's
got to go along with it. So I understand his irritation,
can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I was really surprised and laughed out loud at their
like meet cute where she sees him through the window
and like they make eye contact them that she turns
and runs right into that tree. This is just such
a windy move. It was great. I laughed.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I thought it was so funny. I thought it was great.
I thought that was so great, you know. I thought
Paul was warm and sweet. There were some other real
sweet moments in this movie. I really liked the flashback
memory scenes with Olivia and her aunt sa yeah, I
thought they did a nice job bringing that story alive.
Since aunt Esther only exists in memories in this movie,
(14:06):
it does help us understand her role in this story,
the connection that Olivia had with her, and experiencing those
memories along with Olivia helps us.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Understand her trajectory. Yeah, yeah, exactly, because if we can
talk about Olivia for a second, her character is kind
of unlikable. Yeah, I get it. She's motivated to sell
the cafe, like this is something that just falls in
her lap. She has no need for it, she has
need for money. Understand all that as a character. But
(14:40):
then on the flip side, you have Aaron Cahill who's
like so just warm, Yeah, and she threads the needle
nicely of being like, this is what I'm here to do,
but I'm also a nice person, like I'm totally not
a villain here. Well, yeah, that's a good point. I agree.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't think she is a a villain and I
think she's a good human. But Aaron kal so good
And in that breakup scene I'm putting that in air
quote yeah, where he's like you should probably just go.
The look on her face she doesn't sail a whole lot.
She goes, oh, and then she processes it, you see
(15:19):
it visually, and then she says, you know, you're probably right.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It's so good. Yeah, she's great. She's so great. This
character reminded me a little bit of her character in
automat Apple Hill. Like that character not totally likable either,
did some like not so cool shit to her guest.
In the end, she owned, but like, it's hard not
to root for her just because I like Aaron Gahill.
(15:46):
So anyway, what else did you like?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
My gosh, so many things. I thought.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The additional foster Son storyline with Joshi and Molly when
he finally calls her mom thought was real sweet, real softy.
It's Christmas time, Joshi gets a mom. The cat gets
adopted too. I think Jess Brown as Victoria and Meghan
Young as Meredith are ones to watch for me.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I enjoyed both of their characters.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I spy future Hallmark leading lady potential in both of them.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Jess Brennan, who else?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Me?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Meghan Young? Yeah? I was kind of surprised that Megan
Young did not have as many acting credits when I
saw like Kissing Booth one two and three, and not
a whole lot else. I was like, Oh, look, how
cute this girl is on Hallmark.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Cute A few more things. I enjoyed the Kimberly systadad cameo.
I thought it was nice. And when she's like, I
have one at home, Fireman Annagatt, it's cute. Nine lives,
nine kitts of Christmas fans get that little moment they're
still together.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I feel like that's like a cult favorite. So yes,
of course it would work here in this cat movie too.
So you mentioned two songs in the News and Notes
that are in this movie. But the music in this
movie is really good. There's some additional songs that I
was shazaming. There's one by Forrest Black, another by Bob Bradley.
So much that I looked up the music supervisor of
this movie because I was so impressed, and it's a
(16:59):
woman named Biggins. She has worked on over four hundred
and fifty projects.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Wow. I thought it was nice to have all of
this music, like actual songs, not just instrumental. When you
have this storyline of a character who's into music and
has all these records.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a nice tie in.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I thought it was a particularly heartbreaking scene. I talked
about the breakup, but from Ben's perspective, he finally puts
himself first. This whole movie we have like he's putting
everybody first. He's willing to take Christmas cookies as payment
for the vet he's taken on all this extra work,
he needs, all this help. He finally puts himself first.
He asks Olivia to stay. I thought it was really
heartbreaking when she was like, no, no, I have to go.
(17:40):
But then her response is really good walking away from
my life.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's not a small thing to ask. Thank you for
saying that. Yeah, doesn't get said enough. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I like the idea that all these people just hang
out in the cat cafe like this is their central perk.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
They all show up for all these events. Is there
a cat cafe here and we're going to be is?
I've never been?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I want to go, but I also wonder like it
makes me a little nervous, Like a place that serves
like food and drink, where you got cat for everywhere?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
How hard is that to manage? This is a good question.
Are they just roaming and they think so? Does it
smell like a litter box?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I want to go to the cat cafe. My daughter
would go crazy. You'd end up, well, you can't have
a cat. I would have a hard time walking away,
right because are those cats adoptable like they are in
this movie? That's my understanding. Yeah, that would be really hard.
That would be really hard to leave and be like
bye cats that don't have a home. Look, I know
(18:37):
I'm not like you're number one cat gal, but for me,
like I did think that the cats were really cute
and chaotic and endurable and scene stealing. As a director,
I imagine that was probably really hard to work with
these animals, don't you think so? Because I know, like,
(18:57):
of course, are these are these cats? What is that
call where they're like acting cats? Do you know what
I'm talking about? Like is there a name like a
trained cat where you have like a trained dog on set?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There was an animal wrangler credited in this movie.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
There was, I would imagine, so, but like, you know,
good job so Lucy guests or like having these not
they're just there organically. I felt like hmm. Also my
last final like is and you kind of mentioned it
about like oh these people just hanging out this cat
It was very cozy. Yeah, like it was. It had
(19:34):
a nice like energy, like I can imagine myself like
hanging out there.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I would love if there was a cafe on my
walk home from work at the end of the day,
stop and have a drink and then there's a cat's
gonna pop up on my lap and I can pet
a cat. It would just change your mood what it is?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, well, let's talk wishes. I have but one
same and it is I wish that Aaron as Olivia
could have a long stretch of the movie is I
don't care about this cafe? Yes, And I wish maybe
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she would have come around just like a touch sooner.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It seems implausible that she wouldn't have realized why the
cat cafe came to be.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah. My wish is really more about I did not
care about her quest for a condo wasn't something I
was bought into. There's no it's low stakes for the viewer, right,
You're like, Okay, it's nice, goals are great. I'm proud
of you that you've saved this money and that you
are now able to buy this condo if you get
this windfall. But I didn't really care. I wasn't like
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got to get that condo.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Do you think if it was something different, like she
was trying to save her marketing business or whatever, it
is that higher stakes? Yeah, but then we fall into like, uh,
it's a Hallmark trope of like trying to save her
business and now she's gotta choose between that business and
now the cat cafe business. Oh no, but that's my
only wish. Well, let's talk.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Did you see that I have a few one of
them I know you have to have and it really
pertains to you. Oh yeah, I think we have the
same one.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The listeners at home are not going to know this one.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
The name of your dog, Yes, yes, Ben's. There's actually
two that pertain to be in this. Ben's childhood dog
was named George Bailey. My dog Bailey is named for
George Bailey. Yeah, you Wonderful Life.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I was like, I don't know you knew that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, that's who my little Bailey is named for. And
I actually don't like that movie, but I do like
my dog. Yeah, Okay, what was the other? At the
pajama party, someone was wearing my pink gingerbread pajamas that
I wore on the Homewark Christmas Cruise and are still
in my Christmas pajama drawer from Old Navy.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
From Old Navy. Yay, Yeah, I wonder how they got
their hands on some out of seasoned pajamas.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Honestly, that's a good question. Could it be that they said, hey,
background actors come in Christmas, but you Ammas.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Or could it be that a person who costume directs
for a Hallmark movie is like, I'm definitely gonna need
some Christmas pajamas in the future, and they got that
in their bag.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Maybe let us know how that worked. Maybe. When did
you see that? It was just a scene that I
thought was so funny, And it's when Ben and Olivia
are meeting at the cafe and Frank, the barista, comes
up with their drinks and he's like, girl, please it
like walk that way. He gives Ben his drink and
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takes Olivia's. It's so good. I laughed. I thought that
was so funny.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Another funny scene in the first scene, we get in
the vet that the the waiting room is crowded and
someone's sitting holding a fish bowl with a goldfish in
an other do not notice.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That brings their goldfish funny great. Another did you see that?
And this is courtesy of Reddit. Somebody said that the
care your names, Olivia, Bin, and Meredith are all named
after Taylor Swift's actual cats. Oh my god, I'm like,
(23:09):
is this another like Taylor Swift? That's crazy? Tracy Andrene
wrote this and the Elena Valdez. I don't know where
the names came from, but I wonder if there's any
connection there. My final did you see that? Is there
was zero product placement in this movie, and I'm telling
you it was prime for the pickin'. I don't know
how this is not.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Parina presents Christmas at the Guy's Pretty Litter.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
There's no litter, robot nothing. You're right, Drew?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Are those those little stick little tubs?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah? Has your FYP been infiltrated by? Well? Now?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What did you rate Christmas at the Catnip Cafe? I
thought it was very enjoyable, very cozy. I gave it
four stars.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I gave it three point seven to five stars.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I gave it more than you. I liked it too,
I did too.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
On today's episode, we are discussing Christmas at the Catnip Cafe,
which originally aired on the Hallmark Channel Sunday, November thirtieth,
and is currently available to stream on Hallmark Plus. Hey friends,
welcome to any new listeners of the podcast. Keep up
with us throughout the year, not just during the holidays.
Don't go away when December is over. We're still making
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content all year long, and you can find out what
we're doing over on Instagram where we are Girls Gone Hallmark.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, I mean Hallmark. They didn't actually announce it, but
some other Hallmark accounts recently announced the January movies.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's hidden on Hallmark's website. The information is there. They
just haven't made a big, bold statement, correct.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But we'll be reviewing the January movies, yeah, we will.
Everything else is kind of TBD.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, remains to be seen what else is happening in January,
but there will be plenty to come here on Girls
Gone Hallmark I have an.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Announcement to make. What is that.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This episode drops before our mailback episode?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh okay, never mind, Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm
gonna do it. I'm gonna need your help because I'm like, oh,
my last hanging by a thread.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, listen to tomorrow's mail back episode to figure out
what the heck when he's gonna do?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What are we gonna do? You heard it here first, folks,
I had forgotten that this is coming out before that,
So that's okay, okay, anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Why don't we talk about Christmas at the Catnip Cafe
and start with us up.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Olivia Pearce, a marketing executive, discovers her late Great aunts
Kat Cafe in New York, which she believes will be
a Christmas miracle. She helps plan fundraising events, gaining appreciation
for the feline inhabitants who in the chat, Gpute is writing,
(02:20):
are you I'm for real? I know I sound like
an idiot reading these sometimes because I don't read them
before I actually read them, and I and the thought process.
Can you see the brain? Like? Can you see the
wheels turning in my brain as I'm reading it? I'm
like this doesn't make any This doesn't make any sense.
So lately I have noticed that on Hallmark's websites that
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about the movie synopsis is very unlimited to on where
is that even coming from our website? But I don't
have any idea why off the rails over here at
(03:04):
Girls Gone Hallmark? I am the ben Affleck meme right now, guys,
get me a cigarette. Okay, deep breath, let's unpack here.
First of all, I have no idea why my computer
just started playing that audio like that that wouldn't even
touch anything nothing. I don't know why I did that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Do you think what's happening is Hallmark's synopsis is very long.
Whoever's pushing it to IMDb needs it to be shorter,
doesn't want to do the work, runs it through chat, GPT,
copies and paste because they have no idea what the
movies about themselves? Yes, and then we get this word
salad dribble. Yes, that's exactly what I think is happening.
So y'all know if you watch the movie, Olivia's aunt dies,
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she is trying to buy a home, needs a bigger
down payment.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Then the Catnip Cafe falls into her lap. As this
financial windfall, potentially potential. She wants to go and sell it,
and then we have our movie. So all this bit
about she helps plan fundraising events and gaining appreciate, I
mean that stuff happens too, but that is not the
synopsis of our movie. Correct, somebody please hire me at Homewark.
(04:17):
I would be happy to write your synopsis for you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Christmas at the Catnip Cafe was directed by a Lucy guest.
This marks Lucy's twentieth directing credit. Her other work includes
An Alpine Holiday, Providence Falls, The Santa Clas Jingle Bell Run,
and Sealed.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
With a List. You know what was funny when I
was writing these notes yesterday. I know, we had just
recently talked about Lucy when we reviewed An Alpine Holiday.
I was looking back through her IMDb Sealed with a
list was a great movie. You're like, we love that,
we love that movie. Every movie she does is so good.
She doesn't miss, she does not miss. She was also
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in Holidays. She is an actor, yes, but I think
she's transitioning definitely directing more. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, When you look at a list like that, doesn't
it make you think like, oh, those movies are made
better because of their directing style.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Are those movies made better because they're made by a woman?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well? Sure, But also I think what I have noticed
when I start to look back, when I look at
these IMDb lists of these directors and writers. But I
think directors really interpret what's on the page. I think
the hot take the directors really make a difference in
the final product of the movie.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think so too, it matters. I think so too.
I'm a big fan of Lucy Guest. Also, the writing
credit goes to both Tracy Andrene and Alena Valdez. This
marks the second writing credit for Elena Valdez. Her previous
writing credit is for the twenty twenty one Hallmark movie
A Very Bridesmaid One. We've never watched a very Mery Bridesmaid, sorry,
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a very Mary Bridesmaid, which is like I saw the
movie poster yesterday when I was putting these notes together.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It has like the the Osmet girl. You know what
I'm talking about, Haley's sister. It might be Haley, Haley's
the boy. Haley's the boyfriend Hailey Joel. He's from Jerry Maguire.
The human headweighs eight pounds.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I think that's where my hate of children and movies
might have a couple of Jerry McGuire is one of
my favorite movies of all time. I don't know if
you knew that or not. I didn't know that a
romantic movie.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Can you believe that? It's because it leans heavy the
moneys and comedy?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah? Wait, I need to watch up?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Hailey Joel Osmond? Who's in that movie? He's He's in
the sixth Sense?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Isn't He's not the same?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Whoa? That is not the same? People?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Haley Joel Osmond has a beard, He's a full man.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Google it right now on your computer.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're sitting with each other, but we can't see each
other screens. Hold on, I'm looking to see what else
he's in. He's one hundred and thirty three acting credit.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It came out like thirty years ago. I hope he
is an Okay, Hailey Joel Osmond play little Forest? This
is not the not the guy that was it? Oh?
It's not.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And then he was in the sixth Sense in nineteen
ninety nine and twenty six years ago, and then quite
a few things since then.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Who's in Jerry McGuire? Sorry, Haley Joel Emily Osmond. Yeah,
that's that's not who's in Jerry mcgway. I know, but
that's who's in A very Merry Bridesmaid. Yes, Jonathan Lipniki, Yes, character,
and he is now thirty five years old. Christmas Tree
light's just flashed on and off. That's weird. I'm gonna
(07:38):
plug him. This is a ghost. It's turned the you
have a ghost. It turned the volume on on my
computer and now just search your lights off. Yes, I
feel like this is a Patreon episode. I know. Do
the listeners know my Ireland ghost Story? I don't think so,
because that was an episode on Long Story Short when
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we kicked off our podcast originally in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know, if you ask nicely, I'll tell it again.
We are only two credits deep on News and Notes.
Why don't you finish up the writers?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Tracy Andrine has been working overtime this holiday season. This
marks her third movie in the twenty twenty five Countdown
to Christmas lineup. Her other two were A Grand Old
Opry Christmas Chef's Kiss and A Keller Christmas Vacation, also
well liked. She has a total of thirty nine writing credits.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Aaron Cahill stars as Olivia, and this marks her one
hundred and thirty seventh acting credit. For twenty twenty five,
Aaron starred in A Journey to You as well as
had an appearance in A Grand ol Opry Christmas. She
also played Nora Jacobs in the limited series Holidays.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Paul Campbell stars as Ben Kine. This is Paul's second
movie this holiday season. He was not in A Grand
ol Opry Christmas, but he was in Three Wisest Men
a few weeks ago, and this one marks his fifty
ninth acting credit.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Francis Flanagan plays Esther. This movie marks the seven any
first acting credit for Francis. She's appeared in tons of
Hallmark movies like A Reason for the Season, A Maple
Valley Christmas, and The twenty seven Hour Day What Else too?
Because when I wrote her name down, I was like,
and her.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Face is so familiar, familiar. I look back through her IMDb,
I was like, where is it at? Where's the one
movie that I'm like, that's where I know? It didn't
take a box for you, just has one of those faces.
Maybe yep Ian Collins plays frank Ian has forty four
acting credits and appeared Last and Signed, Sealed Delivered, A
(09:33):
Tale of Three Letters and Family Practice Mysteries Coming Home.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Megan Young plays Meredith. She has eighteen acting credits and
appeared as Rachel in all three of the Kissing Booth movies.
This is her first Hallmark movie. You seen the Kissing
Booth movies? The first one, I've never seen the second two.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't think I have either. I liked the first one.
I thought it was cute. I like that. Joey King,
sister of Hunter King. Yeah. Jess Brown plays Victoria. Jess
has twenty six acting credits and has appeared in other
Hallmark movies like An Unexpected Valentine and Santa Tell Me.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Darren Dolanski plays Walter. He has fifty four acting credits,
with appearances in Chesapeake Shores and Christmas Waltz.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Kimberly says that makes a surprise cameo as Merrily White,
her character from the Nine Lives of Christmas movies.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
An original song called Timeless Christmas, performed by Wes Brown
and Jenna Clair Mason, appears in this movie, as well
as Brad Paisley's Santa Claus Is come into Town. Do
you think they just sprinkled Brad Paisley's music in some
of these movies, kind of like last year how Brett
Eldridge was all over the holiday movies.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I don't remember that he was in Jingle Bell Run
and a few others. This movie was not based on
a novel by the same name.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Let's take a quick break and we'll come right back
with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy, what was your first
impression of Christmas at the Catnap Cafe. It's not so
much a first impression, but a thought. There's a certain
glow happening with Paul Campbell this season, and I'm not
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exactly sure what it is, but something is translating on screen.
This reminds me of we recently watched the episode of
Gilmore Girls where Zach is asking Lane for some more
wink winkers nudge.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's all. That's all I had to say about that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
My first impression is who was in charge of casting
the felines?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Those cats were a ten.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Out of ten.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh, you're such a cat girl. Who could not love
those cats? I mean, I thought the cats were cute, Sure, bread,
I thought the cats were cute, which you know, I'm
a former Hallmark hater. Maybe I'm a former cat hater too.
Were you at one point in your life a cat hater?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I just prefer dogs. Yeah yeah, But if I had
a cat that was super into me, I could be
down with that. I just don't want to take a
risk and get a cat who's like I hate you,
Wendy and then is just living free in my home.
What did you like about it?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well, you talked about Paul Campbell having a glow about him.
I really like this role for Paul Campbell. I thought
he was nurturing and loving and came across as very
natural on screen. To me, it was giving wedding every
weekend Paul Campbell, and overall this may be one of
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my favorite roles of his.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I know he's usually the funny guy, but when he
gets vulnerable it works for me. And I think that
might be because I don't always love the sarcasm as
a defense mechanism that I think is his typical Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I was afraid he was going
to lean too hard into the I'm annoyed and irritated
with you, Olivia. That guy m but he I mean,
there's moments of that, but overall, like watching him soften
was a pleasurable viewing experience for me because I was
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expecting him to be this sort of like yeah and
rauch irritation are earned, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Because she's kind of behaving in an irritating way, even
if you agree with her decision making, which I don't,
and we'll talk about it. But he runs this cat
cafe which he's passionate about, and she wants to close it,
and there's.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Nothing he can do about it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Apparently seems like if it wants to be sold, he's
got to go along with it. So I understand his irritation,
can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I was really surprised and laughed out loud at their
like meet cute where she sees him through the window
and like they make eye contact them that she turns
and runs right into that tree. This is just such
a windy move. It was great. I laughed.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I thought it was so funny. I thought it was great.
I thought that was so great, you know. I thought
Paul was warm and sweet. There were some other real
sweet moments in this movie. I really liked the flashback
memory scenes with Olivia and her aunt sa yeah, I
thought they did a nice job bringing that story alive.
Since aunt Esther only exists in memories in this movie,
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it does help us understand her role in this story,
the connection that Olivia had with her, and experiencing those
memories along with Olivia helps us.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Understand her trajectory. Yeah, yeah, exactly, because if we can
talk about Olivia for a second, her character is kind
of unlikable. Yeah, I get it. She's motivated to sell
the cafe, like this is something that just falls in
her lap. She has no need for it, she has
need for money. Understand all that as a character. But
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then on the flip side, you have Aaron Cahill who's
like so just warm, Yeah, and she threads the needle
nicely of being like, this is what I'm here to do,
but I'm also a nice person, like I'm totally not
a villain here. Well, yeah, that's a good point. I agree.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't think she is a a villain and I
think she's a good human. But Aaron kal so good
And in that breakup scene I'm putting that in air
quote yeah, where he's like you should probably just go.
The look on her face she doesn't sail a whole lot.
She goes, oh, and then she processes it, you see
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it visually, and then she says, you know, you're probably right.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It's so good. Yeah, she's great. She's so great. This
character reminded me a little bit of her character in
automat Apple Hill. Like that character not totally likable either,
did some like not so cool shit to her guest.
In the end, she owned, but like, it's hard not
to root for her just because I like Aaron Gahill.
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So anyway, what else did you like?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
My gosh, so many things. I thought.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The additional foster Son storyline with Joshi and Molly when
he finally calls her mom thought was real sweet, real softy.
It's Christmas time, Joshi gets a mom. The cat gets
adopted too. I think Jess Brown as Victoria and Meghan
Young as Meredith are ones to watch for me.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I enjoyed both of their characters.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I spy future Hallmark leading lady potential in both of them.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Jess Brennan, who else?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Me?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Meghan Young? Yeah? I was kind of surprised that Megan
Young did not have as many acting credits when I
saw like Kissing Booth one two and three, and not
a whole lot else. I was like, Oh, look, how
cute this girl is on Hallmark.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Cute A few more things. I enjoyed the Kimberly systadad cameo.
I thought it was nice. And when she's like, I
have one at home, Fireman Annagatt, it's cute. Nine lives,
nine kitts of Christmas fans get that little moment they're
still together.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I feel like that's like a cult favorite. So yes,
of course it would work here in this cat movie too.
So you mentioned two songs in the News and Notes
that are in this movie. But the music in this
movie is really good. There's some additional songs that I
was shazaming. There's one by Forrest Black, another by Bob Bradley.
So much that I looked up the music supervisor of
this movie because I was so impressed, and it's a
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woman named Biggins. She has worked on over four hundred
and fifty projects.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Wow. I thought it was nice to have all of
this music, like actual songs, not just instrumental. When you
have this storyline of a character who's into music and
has all these records.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a nice tie in.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I thought it was a particularly heartbreaking scene. I talked
about the breakup, but from Ben's perspective, he finally puts
himself first. This whole movie we have like he's putting
everybody first. He's willing to take Christmas cookies as payment
for the vet he's taken on all this extra work,
he needs, all this help. He finally puts himself first.
He asks Olivia to stay. I thought it was really
heartbreaking when she was like, no, no, I have to go.
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But then her response is really good walking away from
my life.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's not a small thing to ask. Thank you for
saying that. Yeah, doesn't get said enough. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I like the idea that all these people just hang
out in the cat cafe like this is their central perk.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
They all show up for all these events. Is there
a cat cafe here and we're going to be is?
I've never been?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I want to go, but I also wonder like it
makes me a little nervous, Like a place that serves
like food and drink, where you got cat for everywhere?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
How hard is that to manage? This is a good question.
Are they just roaming and they think so? Does it
smell like a litter box?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I want to go to the cat cafe. My daughter
would go crazy. You'd end up, well, you can't have
a cat. I would have a hard time walking away,
right because are those cats adoptable like they are in
this movie? That's my understanding. Yeah, that would be really hard.
That would be really hard to leave and be like
bye cats that don't have a home. Look, I know
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I'm not like you're number one cat gal, but for me,
like I did think that the cats were really cute
and chaotic and endurable and scene stealing. As a director,
I imagine that was probably really hard to work with
these animals, don't you think so? Because I know, like,
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of course, are these are these cats? What is that
call where they're like acting cats? Do you know what
I'm talking about? Like is there a name like a
trained cat where you have like a trained dog on set?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There was an animal wrangler credited in this movie.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
There was, I would imagine, so, but like, you know,
good job so Lucy guests or like having these not
they're just there organically. I felt like hmm. Also my
last final like is and you kind of mentioned it
about like oh these people just hanging out this cat
It was very cozy. Yeah, like it was. It had
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a nice like energy, like I can imagine myself like
hanging out there.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I would love if there was a cafe on my
walk home from work at the end of the day,
stop and have a drink and then there's a cat's
gonna pop up on my lap and I can pet
a cat. It would just change your mood what it is?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, well, let's talk wishes. I have but one
same and it is I wish that Aaron as Olivia
could have a long stretch of the movie is I
don't care about this cafe? Yes, And I wish maybe
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she would have come around just like a touch sooner.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It seems implausible that she wouldn't have realized why the
cat cafe came to be.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah. My wish is really more about I did not
care about her quest for a condo wasn't something I
was bought into. There's no it's low stakes for the viewer, right,
You're like, Okay, it's nice, goals are great. I'm proud
of you that you've saved this money and that you
are now able to buy this condo if you get
this windfall. But I didn't really care. I wasn't like
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got to get that condo.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Do you think if it was something different, like she
was trying to save her marketing business or whatever, it
is that higher stakes? Yeah, but then we fall into like, uh,
it's a Hallmark trope of like trying to save her
business and now she's gotta choose between that business and
now the cat cafe business. Oh no, but that's my
only wish. Well, let's talk.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Did you see that I have a few one of
them I know you have to have and it really
pertains to you. Oh yeah, I think we have the
same one.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The listeners at home are not going to know this one.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
The name of your dog, Yes, yes, Ben's. There's actually
two that pertain to be in this. Ben's childhood dog
was named George Bailey. My dog Bailey is named for
George Bailey. Yeah, you Wonderful Life.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I was like, I don't know you knew that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, that's who my little Bailey is named for. And
I actually don't like that movie, but I do like
my dog. Yeah, Okay, what was the other? At the
pajama party, someone was wearing my pink gingerbread pajamas that
I wore on the Homewark Christmas Cruise and are still
in my Christmas pajama drawer from Old Navy.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
From Old Navy. Yay, Yeah, I wonder how they got
their hands on some out of seasoned pajamas.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Honestly, that's a good question. Could it be that they said, hey,
background actors come in Christmas, but you Ammas.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Or could it be that a person who costume directs
for a Hallmark movie is like, I'm definitely gonna need
some Christmas pajamas in the future, and they got that
in their bag.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Maybe let us know how that worked. Maybe. When did
you see that? It was just a scene that I
thought was so funny, And it's when Ben and Olivia
are meeting at the cafe and Frank, the barista, comes
up with their drinks and he's like, girl, please it
like walk that way. He gives Ben his drink and
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takes Olivia's. It's so good. I laughed. I thought that
was so funny.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Another funny scene in the first scene, we get in
the vet that the the waiting room is crowded and
someone's sitting holding a fish bowl with a goldfish in
an other do not notice.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That brings their goldfish funny great. Another did you see that?
And this is courtesy of Reddit. Somebody said that the
care your names, Olivia, Bin, and Meredith are all named
after Taylor Swift's actual cats. Oh my god, I'm like,
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is this another like Taylor Swift? That's crazy? Tracy Andrene
wrote this and the Elena Valdez. I don't know where
the names came from, but I wonder if there's any
connection there. My final did you see that? Is there
was zero product placement in this movie, and I'm telling
you it was prime for the pickin'. I don't know
how this is not.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Parina presents Christmas at the Guy's Pretty Litter.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
There's no litter, robot nothing. You're right, Drew?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Are those those little stick little tubs?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah? Has your FYP been infiltrated by? Well? Now?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What did you rate Christmas at the Catnip Cafe? I
thought it was very enjoyable, very cozy. I gave it
four stars.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I gave it three point seven to five stars.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I gave it more than you. I liked it too,
I did too.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
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