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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm Megan,
and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan. I'm Wendy. I'm a
former Hallmark hater. You guys. Today we are joined by
one of our favorite new best friends spoiler alert, you're
our friend now, Robbie Simpson from Finding Mister Christmas Season two. Robbie,
thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm so honored to be here. I'm such a fan
of y'all and your podcast, and so I'm just happy
to be chatting all things Hallmark in front of Mister
Christmas today.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I have to stop, where are you? Where'd you grow up?
Because you dropped the y'all. I'm dying to know y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I know you guys. I feel I've been caught. I haven't.
So I'm actually in Massachusetts right now, which is where
I crew up. I did not grow up in the South,
and now I live in New York City. But I
was making like some cameos the other day and like,
you know, stuff on Instagram, and Kyle, my partner, was like,
why do you keep saying, y'all, you're not from the South,
And I'm like, I don't know, I'm not trying to
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put it on, but it's just been coming out. So
he just like grilled me on it. And now now
I just got so yeah. No, grew up in Massachusetts,
very proud, love it so beautiful Western mass kind of
like the burk Cheers, And now I'm a proud New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You and Derinda? Is that the right person?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Denda?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Do you know who we're talking about from Real Housewives
Bluestone manor isn't that in the Berkshires?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, yes, that's how people know the Berkshiers. But I
mean for me, it's Derenda from The Traders.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Do you know I would you love to be on
that show?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Consider this my campaign Traders. If the Traders is listening,
start I am. I'm ready. I'm ready to go. I'm
ready to be a Trader.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And they need Jonathan to The two of you on
the show would be incredible. And Durinda needs her redemption
story eliminated entirely too soon.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I know, but she's and she's getting it right.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, oh the upcoming season. Yeah. As a full side note,
I heard Bob the Drag Queen on an interview that
the day, and he was like those housewives. The problem
is is they ride hard for each other. The other
shows are competition shows, so they're like, I'll vote you
out tomorrow. But like that, they have a real disadvantage
on Traders because they're just like this natural click, so
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they're just going to come for them.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So which is so funny because on their own show,
like they will fight each other tooth and now. But
it's like sweet that, like I'm the Traders, they like
ride or die.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Do we need to recap the Trainers this season?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, maybe we let's let's you want to you want
to be a special guest on The Trader.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I need I need to weigh in.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, excellent. Back to Robbie, Let's start with the obvious.
How are you doing since the show rapped? Since the
was of your elimination has aired?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Listen, I'm doing great. I'm doing great because here's the thing.
Like I was eliminated from the show back at the
end of April, you know, so like I was shocked
then and so sad, But mostly I was sad because
I loved going to set every day, I loved filming
the show. I loved the guys, I loved never knowing
like what wild and zany challenge Jonathan had dreamed up
for us, So it was so fun. So I guess
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I wanted to win a Hallmark movie. But I actually
think when I left, I was more sad to just
be like leaving the best Christmas party I'd I ever
been to. So that was sad. But since then, like
I had an amazing summer. I went and did like
a dream role in a play. I went to London
and produced a musical. I taught this great class for
Nyu and Stella Adler. So like I've had like a
great time since then. And then now it's just been
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like the wonderful ride of the show, coming out and
doing press and like hanging out with all the guys again.
So it's been so fun. What is hard is like
looking at my friends and family and that's like not
because they don't know about the elimination, And then I
think it was a hard turn from them, going from
the Talent show, which was so exciting and so fun
and getting so much love and not just you know,
also from fans, but looking at my friends and family
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and going next week's going to be a hard week,
you know, so it was harder to kind of watch
their sadness and disappointment than it was for my own
because I knew it was happening. But I have to say, like,
what's being awesome is like, if you have to be
eliminated from a reality TV show, like I would, I
would recommend this is the way to do it. Like
to have Jonathan's support and like to have him come
hug me and say that he's proud of me, and
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then to have that video kind of become like a
little viral on the Internet and having like all of
these fans weigh in has been incredible. And hearing from
so many people in the LGBTQ plus community I didn't
even know watched Hallmark that are saying like they're so
proud to see themselves like represented, and also some like
older folks like saying that they never thought they would
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see this on you know, on Hallmark. Has been like
really incredible. And then this petition started by this sweet fan.
I was like, you know, being an actor is hard,
like what Craig said in the five elimination, have you
just creeped you know, auditioning on auditioning and auditioning, Like
he's right, and so to like have this kind of
moment of feeling like you're making an impact is like,
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is really incredible. So it's actually been like a really
wonderful last week and a half hearing from people and
talking and doing some press about it, and so I'm good,
it's been it's been a good you know, little ride.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I heard that after your elimination one, Jonathan Bennett called
your partner Kyle and just like touched base with him
about how proud he was of you and what a
great experience it had been working with you, and that
just that really speaks to me about the heart of
the show, about what we're doing here as opposed to
what's happening on some other reality programming like The Traders
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or The Housewives.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
One hundred percent no, that that's exactly what happened. And yeah,
Jonathan facetimed my partner Kyle, and it was really so sweet.
But all of the producers and all of the you
know people behind the scenes making the show happen, from
the heads to the sound people to like you know,
the craft services people were like coming up and we're
so kind, but that's just kind of what this set
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was like. We were not treated like contestants on a show.
We were treated like we were on a show and
making something really beautiful and fun together. And you could
tell because of season one and how much fun people
had doing it, that we were being welcome to this
party and treated so well that every time someone went home,
everyone was sad that they were like leaving the party.
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You know. It was just it was like the best
set environment. And like I've been on, you know, a
bunch of TV and film sets, and it's not always
like that. In fact, it's never like that, So it
was really special. But I think that just is that's
the Hallmark brand, and I'm here to tell you that,
Like honestly, it's not just on the camera and on set,
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it's what's happening behind the scenes too. It's like really sweet.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You mentioned season one going into season two, did you know,
I mean, I could tell that you're a Hallmark fan
and that you were familiar with the show. Did you
feel like you were getting yourself into Did you have
a good grasp of what you were going into when
you arrived.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I did because we were able to watch season one,
which was really helpful, and I liked what I was
seeing and I'm a huge reality TV show fan, so
and so is my partner. But I never really saw
a show that I feel like I could go beyond
or felt like there was like a space for me
there because for a lot of different reasons, but just
like what I'm doing in my life, like mostly I'm
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producing and directing and acting and really wanting to feel
like I'm holding that space just making sure that I'm
making the right decisions, do you know. And so when
this show came up that was Hallmark, that was about acting,
that Jonathan Bennett was the head of it just was
like a no brainer. And so but it was helpful,
you know, looking at season one and also just when
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you're so familiar with the brand and to be able
to tell those stories. It was such an easy yes
for me. Although I'll also say, like I feel like
getting on the show should be its own show in general,
because like getting on the show, the audition and the
amount of people, the amount of calls, self tapes, producer interviews.
Do you know that we did to get on the
show that should be in its own thing? Like I
feel like I won just by being selected as.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
One of the ten guys I would watch that show.
I would absolutely watch that show. And in fact, when
you were talking about it, what was that process? Like
did they come to you? Did you fill something out online?
Like how did how did this all unfold?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It was like eleven pm at night and I got
a DM from the casting director, Lindsay Lyles, Like, shout
out Lindsay. She is an incredible casting director, an incredible human.
And I like said to Kyle's like, look at this
DM I just got and He's like, it's fake. Don't respond.
But then I like looked her up online and looked
at she was legit and looked up the show and
then had a phone conversation with her. The next day,
Kyle and I sat down to watch one episode of
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season one of Finding Mister Christmas. We watched four in
a row. We couldn't get enough of it. We loved
all the guys. The next night we watched the rest
you know, episodes five through eight, and and then from
there on, I was a very last addition to the show.
Like I think I was really like fast tracked towards
the end. Like a lot of the guys, it was
a very long drawn out three month process for them.
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But I was like every day. It was like either
the self tapes, interviews, zooms, phone calls. Do you know?
It happened very It wasn't fast. I mean, I'd still
say it was like about three weeks of a process,
but for some of the guys it was like three months.
So but it was. It was the most intense audition
process i'd ever I had ever gone through. But it
should be like they're really and I think it shows.
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I think all the guys are incredible in so many
different ways, but they are really looking for homemarks, you know,
next leading man, and so I understand that that it
takes a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
They want someone who's going to make good reality TV
and who's going to be someone I can put in
a movie, a movie that you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And that's something that Jonathan talks about and it's actually
something my partner Kyle recently like said to me. He's like,
you know, what you're doing is so hard because you're
being judged as an actor, but they're judging you as
an actor knowing who you are as a person, and
those are really two different things, and you aren't really
doing that, you know, And it's a way, you know,
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we don't have control over a lot, you know, as actors.
But it's an interesting show and it's difficult to be on.
And Jonathan says this, I'm so, you know, we're so
brave for doing this and to be doing these scenes
and these challenges. And let me tell you, like when
they say we have fifteen minutes to like memorize the
scene and learn how to ride a horse, we have
fifteen minutes, like that's all, that's all real. And then
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we're doing it in one take in front of you know,
a whole Hallmark audience. So that's difficult, and then you
see your reaction as a human being. It's a difficult
like type rope to walk.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, we were just talking about the recent episode. There
was a bee or a wasp or something that got
into the scene. But I was like, that's so unfair
because if it was a real TV show or a
real movie, it wouldn't be just one take. You would
stop the scene and reset or whatever. So I do
feel sometimes when we're watching the scenes that you guys
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do on the show, so we're like, well, that wouldn't
happen in real life. We need to see them as
an actor, not like how they would react as a
just a regular human.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So very I think I think it is a mixed
bag because I feel like some of the best things
that happen on film can be happy accidents. So like,
you know, the way you deal with the be or
the way you deal with the mistake can sometimes end
up being gold. And it's like, thank God we kept
going with it. And then Jonathan tells this great story
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about the movie that he just did a Curli Christmas
Vacation about they had one take to do one of
those scenes when they're ice skating, and so sometimes you
do sometimes you do have just like a very limited time,
you know, to do it, and you need to be
able to deliver. You need to be able to know
your lines, know what you're doing, and be able to
show up with charm and charisma and all of that
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hallmark leading man energy. So I agree, I agree with
you that like most often, although when I was doing
General Hospital, you do one take and you're moving on,
you know, like all of that, and that's a that's
a very different world. But but yeah, it's it's definitely
it's definitely a mixed bag and and and difficult, especially
when you only get like fifteen minutes to member as
all those lines.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I hope we get it. Last year in the finale
they did actually get to do two takes and they
got feedback from a director and I was like, that's
what we need, that's what they need, Like they need
that feedback. Okay, this is what I want to ask.
Do you get more feedback from Jonathan Melissa people on
set than we see about your scenes?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You don't get it before, No, you really get it
after the fact. You get it. You get it after
the fact because I think that they and I think
this is part of the show, like they really want
to see what you're going to bring to it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But what you're getting that like after your scene, are
they coming to you and saying like, hey, just for future,
like here's the feedback we would give you.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
No, the only feedback you really get is in the
in the emanation like and those you know, we film
those eliminations for a long time and there's a lot
that's discussed and a lot of the time what it's
what you see on it's what you see on the show.
If you're in the bottom, you get some feedback about
why you are in the bottom. But as someone who
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was never in the bottom, until I went home. I
kind of didn't get that feedback. You know. In the
first episode, I was like in the bottom five, but
then Davey and I were safe, so I don't like,
actually consider that the bottom three. But you don't really
get you don't really get that. But what I will
say is like the whole time, Jonathan would always be
like checking in with us, like off camera and being like, hey,
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are you good, Like what do you need? You're doing great?
You know. It's just like a lot of support and positivity,
and that's honestly what we need at that point because
everyone is it's hard to not be comparing yourself to
other people and oh my gosh, I'm here with a
you know, international fitness model do you know? Or this
person that, or it's hard to not compare yourself. So
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just to be getting that encouragement that like you belong
here and like you are enough, which is what we're getting,
you know, from him and all the other you know folks,
that's that's that's important.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You talked about never having been in the bottom three
before your elimination, and I'm sitting here thinking about your elimination.
I'm never gonna stop thinking about it. Because always mad
about it. We're still mad about it. You and Rustin
were not the bottom two based on your acting. You
were based it was based on like onset shenanigans, shall
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we say? And in my mind, I'm like, that's not there,
right Like then there's a part of me it's like, well,
like you don't want to cast someone who's difficult to
work with. But then I'm like, we know that's not
the case, right Like, So I'm like, did you have
any feelings about that being the basis of your elimination?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
For sure? For sure, it was definitely it was definitely
hard to hear, especially because honestly, I get along with
like the guys are amazing, Like we talk all the time,
Like everything that all the other guys stay interviews is true,
Like we have four different group chats, Like it's incredible.
They're great. One of the people I talked to the
most is Rustin after the show. He's and have always
felt so close to him. So I think that was
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like really hard to hear that that was the feedback
because we what happened was we were you know, we
went back in the house and we were like working
on the scene and then you know, when we came
outside to have everybody jumping in, you know, and you
talked about it in your recap like there was a
lot going on, you know. It just it was very fast,
and it definitely didn't feel that way. I know Rustin
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said it didn't feel that way. That was not my experience.
But also like at the end of the day, like
I trust the judging and I trust what they see
and what they saw. But I think also in the
elimination they backtracked it a little bit. They said, Okay, yeah,
well you're right, but now we just have to judge
based on acting, and Rustin just like pulled it out
like a little bit more so I'm sure, you know,
since then, I'm trying to, you know, I always want
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to like learn from everything that I do and just
become better and take everything with a grain of salt.
And I think when it came down to it, I
don't think anyone it did a poor job. I just
think that Craig and Davy took like a really big swing.
They improve some lines at the beginning that like I
never would have done because sometimes I feel like, and
I said this on a different interview that sometimes for
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television writers it depends on the writer. They don't want
you to, you know, say things that different, and I
do come from the theater world, where it's where it
is more sacred, like you have to say every the
and you know, you have to like get every word perfect.
So it's not my experience that you just want to
kind of go off script like that. And that could
have gone either way for them. You know, we saw
Craig take bigger risks and they didn't pay off it.
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And I just think that they took a big risk
and it really paid off and that put Rustin and
I in the bottom because you know, and so I
don't I think that's in my mind that's like how
it worked out is good for them that they did that,
and I think it was very funny and them throwing
the cookies that got me laughing, and so it just
kind of didn't go my way that day would which
I obviously wish it did, but for me it wasn't
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because of anything that happened with the rest In.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
You're such a good person, because I'm like, I'm mad,
and you have brought a life lesson from it. Well,
I appreciate that about you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Of course, you like go through the stages of grief
because it was, like I said, it was so hard
to leave the Christmas party that was the I love
that you call it the Balsam Hill House of obsessed
with that because it also makes me think of like
the Haunting of Hillhouse, you know, like that's scary, but
it's like Balsam Hill House. It's like the christ House.
And I also love like shout out to cruising mister Christmas.
They call it whenever we're like doing reality by the tree,
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they call it the Christmas Illusions Lounge because that's like
a takeoff of RuPaul's drag Race. So I love all
these like different terms, but you know, there are the
stages of grief. But I have to say, like I
really feel this way that everything happens the way it's
supposed to do. And I also think that like when
you're given an opportunity, and every single one of us
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was given an opportunity, like even the people that go home,
it's like you can decide to make the most of
the opportunity that you're given. And I also feel like
had I not gone home in the way that I did,
and was it not so loved or people have controversial
opinions from the fans that have been reaching out. Would
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I be getting all of this love and attention and
support like it's ended up? You know, I kind of
like I'm actually I'm good. Like I think I won
the most challenges while I was there. I was vulnerable,
I made friends. I got to roast Jonathan Bennett. I
got to like run around in a hamster ball, slide
up and down a Crisco mountain, like fly thirty feet
in the air, be the best that. How about getting
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the firstling shot present in you know, like I got
to do so many awesome things. Right, So I kind
of feel like I feel I was sad to leave,
but I felt like I left with a full heart.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Look, I want to tell you when we watch this,
we like write notes as we watch the show. Right,
and that's the Slingshot episode. I was like, Robbie, I
was like so excited for you, but I was like,
you have no idea like the genuine like excitement for you.
I was rooting so hard. I've like all these little
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wins that you've been having. Oh man, it was so fun.
We talked about the show like we're being paid to
do so we are such genuine fans of the show,
and we saw when we first got the show. We
saw the first two episodes and Wendy was like, who's
your favorite? This is one hundred percent of the truth.
I was like, team Robbie right here, and that we
really didn't know you yet. But that was first impression.
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And then I'm so sad we only got three more episodes.
But I do feel like we you know, we got
vulnerable Robbie, We got fun Robbie. You got to be
this like voice of reason. And that scene you have
with Marcus by the fire is so touching. You're talking
about your mom's So I was from Jump a big
fan of yours. So I'm glad for getting to talk
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to you, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
That I mean, that means so much. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You made me laugh and cry watching this reality TV show, Like,
come on, you're such a good human. You talked about
the opportunities you've had after filming, and I needed to
talk about a real housewife run in that you had
because we talked about a little bit off Mike. But
you're flying home from Utah and who's sitting in front
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of you, y'all?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Like the universe is crazy. So I and I'll tell
you exactly what happened. The day after I was eliminated.
You finish up some of the confessional interviews. That's just
how it happens. I actually missed my flight that night
because I was doing some more confessional interviews and talking
about the show, and as you can tell, I love
to talk. And then that night I ended up staying
extra night. And then that night I went out to
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dinner with like a few of the guys and so
like we got to talk and hang out. But then
the next morning, I get on the flight in Salt
Lake City and who's sitting in front of me but
Bronman Newport, who is just like for me, she's it.
She's like reality TV royalty. I think she does it right.
And then like flashback, you know, now we got talking
on the flight and then we were having drinks in
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New York and now she's become an incredibly sweet and
supportive friend, supportive through the reality TV process. But that
never would have happened had I not been eliminated, like
when I was. I don't know, it's just it's kind
of one of those things where you look back on
your life and you're like, oh, I see what was
happening there, Like I see the path and she's incredible,
So like, yeah, it was a pretty sweet experience.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I have been in your damns. I'm like, you know, everyone,
I saw you with Ali Liebert recently, did you know
her before finding Mister Christmas?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I didn't know her. I didn't know her, but you know,
I was just flying back. I was flying to LA
to do some more stuff for press for funding Mister
Christmas and went to the Out one hundred party, which
to go there with Hallmark and be supported by Hallmark
at the Out one hundred party, I was like, what
is my life right now? Like high school Robbie would
have just been freaking out. I was always looking at
those pictures from that event of you know, the most
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influential LGBTQ folks of you know, the and then to
have to be there with you know, Hallmark PR was
like really incredible. So I was out there doing some
press and photo shoots, some podcasts and everything. And then
but that's also when Jonathan was getting his star on
the Palm Springs Walk of Stars, which is just so
cool and like Jonathan has been and I will say
this forever, and I mean it, like so supportive of
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us when we were on set, even when he wasn't
on camera anything, making sure we were okay. And then
since the show we were just texting this morning. Has
been so kind and so supportive, and like the fact
that I'm saying that because he has been so important
to me for so long has been amazing. So like
for me to just show up and support him on
that day, like I would do I would do anything.
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So of course I was there. But then he knew
that I was driving from LA to Palm Springs and
he was like, hey, would you mind bringing my friend Ali?
And so like I just like picked up Ali like
that morning, and we like did a road trip to
Palm Springs together and like, honestly I became like BFFs.
Like she's the best and I love you know. We
talked about the Holiday Sitter right that that that she
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directed that film, which was the first like major gay
kiss on television. And George Chrisso, who plays Jonathan's boyfriend
of that show, is a really good friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So like what you kind of look like him a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's a small world. Hey, I'll take it. I'll take that.
I'll take that. And how about a movie for us together?
About So that was really sweet. So yeah, she just
was you know, you just like connect to those people
right away. She's incredible and she's doing awesome work just
like as a queer woman in media, like acting, directing,
just she's really awesome and a really cool human being.
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So Jonathan Daathan kind of set that friendship up.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
God, look at that, you're just out here doing it.
It's all happening. It's all happening. It's happening. Just wow,
put it out and it's just like we're in a secret.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, yes, well please, Well it honestly means so much
because you know, we didn't know each other before this,
and you know, we didn't really get to talk before this,
and so it's so nice. Like I just feel and
y'all are such fans of Hallmark and the show, and
so I just like I'm like feel honored to even
like be here talking to you all. It's just it's
the same thing as everything else that's been happening. So
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and it's nice to feel like because when you're on
reality TV, you're sharing your story, you're sharing yourself. It's
like so much scarier than like I can play a
part and I can hide behind the part, but like
I'm talking about and I'm opening up about stuff that
i've When I said that on the Talent Show about
the regrets about my mom, I've never said that to
my father, who's downstairs right now. I've never said that
to my aunt, my mom's sister. I had never said
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that to anyone that I had these deep regrets about,
you know, maybe not flying home or not seeing her.
And so I was having discussions with my family about
that over Thanksgiving. And if I'm having discussions with my
family about it, I've already gotten dozens of messages from
people that say that they felt that way and they
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never acknowledged it before, or they never felt like they
could say that about that. They have regrets, you know,
greg regrets about something like that. So that's that's the
that's the win for me.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Gondy cry. Yeah, I really connect it. I know, I'm
already like tearing up. I really connected over that. My
mom passed away about ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And I I'm so sorry, thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I have some similar of feelings like yours, of regret
of things I didn't say or I didn't go back
and do or I left, not knowing that would have
been the final time. Uh So I really melted when
you talked about that on the show, and I would
and and you even said, and I'm paraphrasing, but it
was something along the lines of if I can talk
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about it, then that means other people can talk about
it too. I it was something like that, and I
was like, Oh, I've been shouldering this regret or this
feeling like for so long and I've never said it
to anybody. So anyway, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Because talking about it, well, I think, like I don't
remember totally what I said, but it was like, you
never know who it's going to help when you're able,
you know, when you're able to talk about it, do
you know? And it doesn't have to be on the television,
Like it's also like just like sharing your feelings, like
someone else could feel that way and then you'll never
know to the extent of which like it helps them,
you know, or heals them. And one of the guest
judges that day actually shared that, and I think that
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was on television that she also had a similar experience
to what you just talked about. So what we say,
in theater all the time is like when we're building plays,
and also television is like the more specific the story
and the more specific your words are, the more universal
it is. Which is kind of a mind thing because
you go, oh, I want a general story so more
people can relate to it. It's like, actually, the more
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specific you are with your feelings, your thoughts, like what
you want out of a scene, the more the more universal,
and the more touching it's going to be to more people.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So we've talked a lot about the good the positive.
Is there a moment from filming you're like, oh, no,
that's going to be on television that you panicked a
little bit realizing Was there a moment for you or
was it all good?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Not really, I'm trying to think honestly, Like I like
went into the you know, the slip and slide cris
Go Mountain. You know, we weren't allowed to say Chrisco
on camera, but you know, but it.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Was Rubik's cube.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Or Really's cube, right totally, or Rudolph so but but
it was Chrisco, let's be clear. So I wentn't thinking
like I am capable of winning all these things, and
I'm gonna win a third festive face off. I didn't
make it up the hill once. I didn't make it
up the hill once of the candy game, and I
knew there was a shot where I like completely wiped out.
I looked up and there was a camera in my face.
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And I'll also just say, like the beautiful jerk girl
from episode one, I had no idea that I said that.
I had no idea that I said that. No one
brought it up to me. They didn't talk about it
in the elimination. It was like in August, Jonathan like
FaceTime you one day and he was like cracking up
and he's like, I have to know about beautiful jerk girl.
And I was like, what do you talk to you?
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And I was like, I didn't say that. I didn't
say that, and sure enough definitely said it. Definitely said it.
So I wasn't like, you know, maybe I was worried
to hear that, but I was like, I've watched enough
reality TV to know like, you're weird, awkward mistakes sometimes
your greatest gift, and so so many people have written
that it just like made them laugh, and you know,
it was what it was, so and the slipping of
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the sliding also made people laugh, So it was you know,
it's a whitman.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You've talked a lot about your acting career prior to
this what you're doing Now, what was the moment for
you that you were like, Oh, this is what I
meant to do.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I met my dad, so like these are all like
my posters here, like you know, stuff that I've been in.
I don't know, it's been It's been an interesting road.
There wasn't ever one moment that I was like, this
is what I'm going to do with my whole life.
I grew up in the Berkshires in Massachusetts, where there's
like so much arts and culture in theater, so like
I was always seeing theater. My mom was always bringing
me to New York City to like see Broadway shows
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or to Hartford to see the touring show. So like,
I always kind of knew I was going to do it.
But but the thing that is interesting that I'll say
is during it, after the pandemic, I started directing a
lot and produced a lot, and started running this musical
theater program and started teaching for NYU. That all this
wonderful success came in the way of kind of leading producing,
and that made me really happy because I got to
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create the rooms in the spaces too that were healthy
and safe and where people felt comfortable to like come
and do their work. And I love that. But I
kind of got away a little bit from the acting
because auditions and jobs would come up, but I would
have a really big play that I was you know,
directing or something like that. So I kind of got
away from that. But we DMD about this, I think
very quickly. But Mary Kate Morrissey is one of my
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best friends from college. We went to school together, we
lived together, we moved to New York City together, and
she was finishing up her ten year run as Alpha
BA from tour to Broadway to you know, you know,
doing it so many different times, and so I saw her.
I've seen her probably like thirty times, like at least
to play that part. But she was finishing her run
on Broadway in February March, like right when I was
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like auditioning, you know, when the show like popped up,
and I was just watching her do her thing, and
I was like, you know what, like I missed that.
I love that I had done a play that was
like a dream like six months prior and like felt
like awakened. So like right when you're seeing me like
on the show, and I was like really coming back
to acting in a big way, and you know, seeing
Mary Kate inspired me. And then the show happened, so
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it was like a wonderful reunion and back to that.
So I'd feel like maybe that's the moment that I
was like, you know what, I'm not done with this,
and after like the support from the show and some
other stuff that's like happening. That's pretty exciting. I feel
like it's definitely going to be where I'm spending some
time over the next however many.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Years, So I love that that moment existed. Side note
for anybody listening who is a theater fan, Mary Kay's
a great follow on social media because she posts a
lot of like the nitty gritty, the behind the scenes,
her day to day really interesting. That's how one of
the ways I know her. But that's also how you
know Jenna Claire. The two of them toured together and
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then they both did Broadway runes, but never at the
same time as my understanding, but they're friends from the
touring production. How long have you known her?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So before Mary Kate was with her now husband a
wicked has like almost like emotional support money, So like
I would and I would go out to the tour
a lot and visit her like whenever, because like the
role is tough, the schedule is tough. So I would
just go out and we would like spend time like
laying in the hotel, like watching American Horror Story and
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eating ice cream, you know, with with her not talking
and doing vocal rest. And her best friend was Jenna Clair,
so they would always like get an Airbnb together, and
so I would always just hang out with Jenna Claire.
We would always have such a blast together. And Jenna
Claire was taking such good care of Mary Kate on tour,
like behind the scenes, off stage, you know, really like
being a wonderful Glinda on and off stage that I
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would check in with, you know, Jenna Claire. I'd be like,
you know, is everything good? How she doing? You know?
So we got really close because of that. And then
I remember when she got her first Hallmark movie, The
Holiday Spectacular. It was like such a huge win and
we were so excited and she was so good and
I'm so happy that she's continued to be a huge
Hallmark star, and when I started like was getting very
close and I was like, I think I'm gonna be
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on this show. I was so hard to not reach
out to her, to be like, you know, but you know,
we clearly you know, it's not surprise to find out
that we can't tell anybody, you know, and haven't been
able to tell anybody. So but now to like, you know,
kind of be cross pollinating Hallmark with her as like
such a joy because I've known her for I don't know,
like over it well over a decade. Yeah, she's wonderful
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and I'm so proud of everything she's doing at homework.
Her movie is Newport Christmas is so good. If you
haven't seen it and say, like, not every actress could
pull that off, I could have seen that going very differently.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Perfect casting for that role like that when she stumbles
into the future. I was like, there's there's nobody else
who could have done this like this, it's purple Bolder Dash.
Oh my, yeah, she's so good. Honestly, I was just thinking,
I'm like, we're gonna be playing six Degrees of Robbie
Simpson a few years here now, Like you know, everybody
and This is why you're going to be successful is
because you are genuinely interested in people and you like them.
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That's going to be That's going to be the thing, Robbie.
That's why people like you because you're so damn likable.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh my gosh. Well from your lips to like who
versus to whoever's listening to the to the casting team
of the Traders.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh my gosh. And then dancing with the stars, Oh
my gosh, so much dance.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
That would be so much fun. I danced in college,
like in I did a lot of musical theaters in college,
so like it would definitely be like brushing off the
old dance shoes. But I mean, that show has gotten
so much attention, especially this year, and I just love it.
I loved their like wicked episode that they did. It
was like so wonderful and campy. So I don't know,
here's the thing, Like I never thought that I would
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do reality TV, and now that I've done it, I'm like,
oh my god, that's such a blast. But you know,
I also think and I know that homemark and I'm
not just saying this, like took such good care of us.
We were treated so well. Also, all the press afterwards.
I mean, I can't imagine it being any cushier than
than Hallmark. And so that's part of It's like maybe
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I had it so good I don't want to do
it again. But but but it was fun.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, you touched on it briefly at the top of
the episode, but a lovely viewer of by a name
mister Christmas was as upset by your elimination as we
were and took it a step further and started a
petition to get you cast in a Hallmark movie. First
of all, did she reach out? How did you come
to be aware of this petition?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It was the night before Thanksgiving and my partner Kyle
texted me and said, have you seen this petition? That's
how I found out about it, Like what you know,
what's going on? And so I don't know Lindsey. I
don't know her. I didn't know her previously, and I
was like so floored by more so the note that
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she wrote and like pushing the petition on anyone, but
just like like, listen read the listen read the note
that she wrote. Like, as actors, sometimes you feel like,
you know, you want to make a difference, you want
to feel like you're telling stories, you're breeding empathy, like
you're you're here to make your mark on the world.
And like reading that, I was like, yep, this is
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this just feels so fulfilling, or like I'm doing what
I'm supposed to be doing. And you know, we didn't,
we didn't, we didn't know each other. She's just like
and it's not like she has this big influencer, you know,
she writes that, and I just loved for her that
she felt like, I want to use my voice and
she says that that, like that's that's like up. Really,
what was so meaningful to me about it? And and
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like I'm happy for her that it is taken off
and it's gotten all of these you know, attention and
signatures and everything, because it means, you know, her voice matters,
and her voice does matter. And I think Homemark really
listens to their fans. I think that they always have.
They take their fans very seriously, and so I just
really appreciate her her doing that. It was incredibly meaningful.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
We will absolutely we wrote a post about it on
Girls Gone Hamewark, but we will of course share the
links to that petition in the show notes of this
episode and yeah, you should check it out and see
what she wrote. She also called in to a recent
episode of Girls Gone Hallmark Our episode six recap. You
can hear her voicemail that she left for us there.
I just I love the fans activating for their people.
(36:11):
So do I love it? I love it so much.
Speaking of that petition, if this comes to fruition, which
we're all just gonna do everything we can, what's your
dream Hallmark role? Like, what does that look like for you?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Oh? What a good It's such a good question. Well,
I'll tell you, like I always like love mysteries, and
I love like a kind of like a who Done It?
And I love that Hallmark has this whole they do that,
you know, like mistletoe murders, all of that. So maybe
maybe like something maybe something like that would be really
fun to do. But also I just like want to
just like be there, like are.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You thinking what I'm thinking? When did you just got
a look? She's like, I got an idea, I got
an idea. Okay, I'll tell you about it later, but
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
But also just like it's just like existing, like you know,
I'd love to like be Jonathan's like best friend in
a movie or something or you know, like be you know,
Jenna Claire's like, uh, like buddy or like that's what
I want. Me and Jena Claire like in a movie
together and I'm like helping her figure out like how
to get the guy. I'm like, this is like what
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you need to do. And then she's like going to
like try to you know, try to get the guy.
So it's like we're like working together on it. That
would be so fun and you know, like play a
stray character or play or play gay character. But it
doesn't have to be for me like a romance. It's
just like just existing, just like being there, you know,
hanging out. But I you know, for me, what I
do is all about the community and all about the people.
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That's why I got into theater. That's what I love
most about being on set doing funny Mister Christmas. So
I guess that's why I'm like, uh, you know, how
about how about a Christmas movie directed by Ali Liebert
that's like a little bit of a mystery Christmas movie
where Jonathan and I are mischievously, you know, influencing Jenna
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Claire to do something.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
How about that The hijinks right old are going to
write themselves? Yeah, we got who are going to get
to write that?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You know who should write that is Joel Doovev, the
writer of the Cases of Mystery Lane, a canceled Too
Soon mystery franchise. He would be a good time.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, I'll love it.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Go yeah, tell everybody where they can find you to
keep up with what's going on with you, Robbie for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'm most active on Instagram at mister Robbie Simpson. I'm
trying to get more into TikTok as someton as. I
feel like I don't know what I'm doing over there,
but I'm trying to figure it out. That Instagram is
the best, and I love hearing from people like write
me DM me like happy to hear anything that you
want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
It's so lovely. Thank you so much for being here
and sharing all of these thoughts with us. This was
such a good time. I could talk to you forever.
And thank you for listening to this episode of Girls
Gone Hamewark, a Bramble Jam podcast. We'll be back next
time with more Hallmark reviews. Goodbye bye, all right friends.
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