December 6, 2024 • 31 mins
In this special episode of Give It Your All, I’m joined by Pat, the Diabetic Preventionist—a chef, nutrition educator, and advocate passionate about helping people take control of their health.
Pat shares his journey, blending culinary expertise with nutrition education to teach the importance of managing carbs, avoiding processed foods, and embracing whole, nutrient-dense meals. From practical cooking tips to sustainable lifestyle changes, Pat brings actionable advice and inspiration for anyone looking to prioritize their health and prevent diabetes.
Tune in for an engaging conversation with valuable insights to help you live a healthier, more intentional life—one bite at a time.
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Welcome to give it your all, the podcast where we dive
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deep into life's biggestchallenges and victories through
a biblical lens. I'm your host,Daryl Baptist junior, and I'm
excited to introduce you to theofficial first guest on the
show, my friend, my brother,Pat. Man, it's, it's just an
honor to know this brother. Man,we go back from college days
back in the early 2010s youknow, the early ages. Man, it's
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been cool. You know, we can saythat now, getting a little bit
old. It's been about over 10years now. So we could
definitely say that, but, butright now. Man, Pat is amazing
brother. You know, he's alsoknown as the diabetic
preventionist. You know, he's achef, a nutrition educator and
an advocate dedicated toempowering individuals to make
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healthier food choices,combining culinary skills with a
deep understanding of nutrition.
Pat focuses on teaching theimportance of managing
carbohydrates, avoidingprocessed foods and embracing
whole, nutrient dense mealsthrough workshops, Cookie
demonstrations and communityoutreach. Pat inspires
sustainable lifestyles changesto prevent diabetes and promote
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overall health. So welcome tothe show, Pat. Man, how you
doing today? Iam doing pretty well. Man, that
is a great intro. I appreciatethat, brother. Thank you. Thank
you. Yeah,sir. Man, this is honor. Man,
it's definitely an honor, bro.
So yeah. Man, we going to jumpright into it today. Man, just
again. Thank you for being afirst official guest on the
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show. Man, it's an honor.
Playing on continuing this,being dedicated, being
committed. Man, it justhighlighting people that inspire
me. You definitely one of myinspirations out here. So I just
wanted to introduce the world toyou. You know, hopefully you
could inspire somebody else aswell. Bro, absolutely appreciate
that. Yes, sir. So who has beena significant spiritual
influence and how have theyimpacted your journey?
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I would say my brother, thatwould have to be you,
most definitely, man, that woulddefinitely have to be you. I
always think about thatconversation like you say, we've
been knowing each other forabout 10 years. So that one time
when you came to visit me, whenI was in the A you was with the
wife and everything that thatconversation that we had, man,
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that stuck with me for years. Idon't know if I could say it,
but I would go ahead and say it.
Say it. Man, because, you know,in college, we was believing in
all of that stuff. We was, Icarried on with that, like with
that man, um, believing in theAfrican Egyptology, Thoth, gof
raw and all of that stuff. Sowhen you came down and you
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visited, you was like,you basically gonna go to hell.
I remember the face that yourwife made, the like, like, it's
not even the words, is cool, butthe face that your wife made,
bro, I was like, Man, that'swhat always sat with me. Wow.
Like, after that, like, Istarted seeing all of them
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videos about who are, who arethose people, the Israelites,
right, right now the Israelites,they just started shunning
people on those YouTube videos.
And then that's when we reallystarted getting into that word.
You started taking me up underyour wing, like, hey, Nah, bro,
this high, this high, really golike the Israelites, they own to
something, but that, that hatredthat they got in their heart
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toward people, just shunningpeople, saying, you not going to
go to hell, like, or you goingto hell. They don't have to be
doing that. So that's, that'swhen I really started getting
into the word like, for real,for real. That's, that's the
part that helped me along, or Iwould say, like, how you
impacted my journey, about,like, just getting into this
word bro, like getting onpurpose and standing for
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it. Man, that's, that's amazing.
Man, I'm honored even just to bea part of that journey. Man,
because, you know, it'simportant. I I definitely care
about everybody, and I'm carefulnot to, you know, push my
beliefs down people throats oranything like that. But it is
important to kind of, like,stand on your beliefs, because
you never know how that canimpact somebody to eventually,
even if it's not in that moment,but eventually they can have or
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share that experience that Iknow is true, and that's just
that relationship with, youknow, God, you know at the end
of the day. So no, I thank youfor that, Brad, thank you for
that. Absolutely alright. Sotell us about the moment or time
when God called you to step intoyour purpose, and then how did
you respond to thatman, I would say, along this
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journey with this food, man likeyou have known me for a long
time. Bro, I've been vegan foralmost 10 years, so I was
believing in the narrative aboutthe food instead of actually
doing the research and doing thereading, just the same thing
that I was doing with the Bible,instead of actually doing the
reading and doing the researchand having a true discernment
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about the information formyself, I'm just going off of
what people saying. So I wasdoing that for my diet. It and
with the Bible. So when Iactually started doing that
reading and doing that researchfor myself, like I started
seeing all of the informationthat that I was getting was just
wrong, especially about food andnutrition, how to eat,
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sicknesses and chronic diseasesand where they come from. So
when I start, when I realizedthat that's what. That's when it
hit me. I'm like, wait, let meread this Bible. Let me get the
true information about thisBible too. While I'm getting the
true information or themisinformation about this rule,
let me do both. So that's that'swhen it kind of hit me. I'm
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like, man, okay, let me educatemyself about all of this, about
all of this food, and also letme educate myself about the
Bible, instead of just going offof what people are saying, what
people have to say, what peopleall of the videos, or I don't
believe in this, or I don'tbelieve in that, it's like, it's
the food, the like the videosthat they do with the food, of
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how they say, Oh, you need to beon this certain diet to do this.
It's the same with religion.
They say, Oh, you need tobelieve in this certain religion
and make it I'm like, Okay, it'ssome real it's some real
research and some real reading,some real true discernment, some
real understanding that I needto get to, like, you know, just
kind of shift through all ofthat. Bs, wow, yeah,
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man, that's, that's deep. That'sdeep, man, especially how you
tied it to that, you know, howGod used that. So, you know,
kind of my question to thatwould be, what made you, what
made you, correlated to the foodand the word, it just, was it
timing? Or what what would youattribute that to? When
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I got that continuous glucosemonitor, when I can, when I can
see it for myself, bro, likewhen nobody can tell you
nothing. It's just like when youread in the Bible and and like
you get that true discernmentand that true answer, can't
nobody tell you nothing. Nobodytell you like, Oh, is it he said
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it this way? No, no, no, no, no,you can't tell me that. I read
it for myself. So when I gotthat continuous glucose monitor
and I'm stuck in my face withall of these vegan food,
vegetarian food, making thefalafels, chickpeas heavy on the
carbohydrates, even though theywant to say it's complex carbs
and it gradually spike yourglucose levels, it's still
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spiking rather it's one hour ortwo, like two hours, it's still
going to spike your levels. Ican eat six I can eat six
falafels, bro, and my glucoselevels are spiking damn near on
pre diabetic levels. Once I seenthat information, I'm like, No,
that you Nobody can't tell menothing like I've done the test
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on my own body. No, I don't carewhat vegan influencer, no, they
they haven't done no research.
They ain't done no research onthemselves. They probably don't
even read the real NationalInstitute of Health like they,
they probably don't even readacademic research for
themselves. So that's, that'sanother thing, like, bro, I just
got tired of listening to peoplerather, rather it came to the
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food or or religion, bro. Yougotta get that word for
yourself.
Amen. Amen, to that man. That's,that's, that's powerful, like
how you correlated to, you know,today, once you see it for
yourself, it's like, alright,you can't, you can't play me no
more, you know, it's a, youknow, I see it, I proof. Where's
your proof? You know, is it justwords? Or you got some numbers,
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some data backing stuff up? Andusually it's just words, or they
conveniently leave their datahome, or something, you know,
but it's about just educatingbro, like you got to educate
yourselves. And even when youeducating others, you have to
educate them in a way, so theygo seek the information, not
that you need to,like you're the sole provider.
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Okay, yeah, wow. All right,that's, that's deep man. I like
that. So, you know, we're gonnatransition man that's, that's
deep man that's deep. So whatwould you say your favorite
Bible verse of passage thathelps you stay encouraged during
challenging times? And how doesthat look in action? That's
a perfect transition. I actuallygot a couple of, but the
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transition is Proverbs, three.
Proverbs, three, five. I gotthat on my phone, um, it's, uh,
lean not on your ownunderstanding. I cannot remember
that the whole lean not on,yeah, trust in the Lord with all
your with all your heart andlean not on your own
understanding. That right there.
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Man, that one right there. Ikeep it on my phone, like I
said, I look at it every day, soI keep that one on my phone
because I feel like, that's whatI was doing. Bro, like, that's
what I was doing. Daryl, like,it's, it's something we like we
have to understand, you. Wedon't have all the answers, no
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matter how much study, no matterhow much reading, we don't have
all the answers. True answersgonna come from the Divine. So
it's, it's the to get true, trueanswers from the Divine, you
have to follow divineinstruction. So that's when I
say I had a two up. That firstone is still in Proverbs. I tell
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you about this one all the time.
I'm still sitting with it. DJ,Proverbs, chapter one, yeah,
chapter one. Verse two, to knowwisdom and instruction to the
words of understanding, toreceive the instruction of
wisdom, justice, judgment andequity. Oh, my God,
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man. So like, both of those,like, I just been tying them two
together, like, so don't lean onyour own understanding, because
youyou have to perceive the words
of understanding.
You feel me like you can't leanyou can't if you, if you think
you know it all, how you gonnaperceive understanding from God,
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right? That's deep, that's deep,that's deep.
And then it speak to no wisdomand instruction, like, nice. So
wisdom to me when, like, when Ithink about it is like that
moral guidance. Is that right orwrong? And then the instruction
is the discipline. It's theability to maintain the right
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like that. That's what that'swhat it means to me to to know
wisdom and to know instruction.
Steve, the instruction ofwisdom, justice, judgment,
equity, yeah, those, those tworight there. I'm sitting with
them, bro. I'm sitting with themright now. We Yes, I keep coming
up with, uh, I keep breakingthem down, bro. Every, every
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time I read that, uh, thatprogress I started off, I keep
breaking it down. Wow. That's,that's one for me. That's like,
it's like, when you say, What'sone of my favorite ones right
now, that's one of my favoriteones because it's like, it
transitioned into the nextquestion. Like, when you say I
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when, like, if I'm ever having adoubt, right? Yeah, if I'm ever
having a doubt about somethinglike it, ain't I can't even say
that I'm having a doubt becauseI don't even know, right? That's
how I'm even that's howliterally I'm taking it right
now, right? No, if it's a doubt,let me not even worry about it,
because God said that's, that'smy own understanding, thinking,
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that I have doubt, right? Evenworry about,
yeah, man, that's important, youknow. So for those that know
it's the question is, how do youadvocate moments of doubt or
questioning your relationshipwith God? And you know, you, you
know, in my, in myinterpretation of that you
pretty much answered it. It'slike, whenever it comes up, or
anything of the nature comes up.
You do what the Word says youyou take all thoughts captive
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and make it submissive to theWord of God. And you know, and
it's just a natural response,regardless if you even looked at
it that way or not. That's whatthe you know, Holy Spirit does
within you. You know God. God isthe one who does it all because
our flesh and is not doing godlythings, you know what I mean? So
it's definitely God and us doingthe godly thing. So
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one of the dudes that I love towatch, his name Cliff nectel. I
think I always tell you abouthim, bro, he break it down all
of the time. He says, like, ifyou really have a true doubt and
believing in God, then youshould, you should literally
doubt all history. We wasn'tthere when George Washington
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died, and we wasn't there whenanything you can name back in
the 1800s we wasn't there forbut we believe it. We hold, we
hold strong to it, like us.
Constitution, nobody wasn't.
Nobody alive today was therewhen that, when that thing was
written, but that thing is partof the law. That's the law. You
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feel me like that. I have notrouble believing that God, that
God's law. If we believe in theUS Constitution, I have no
problem believing in God's love.
That's a good mindset to haveabout it.
You know, because I believe it'svery easy if you're doing it on
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your own, leaning on your ownunderstanding, to live in doubt
or always have questions aboutwhat God's doing, versus when
you have, when you live off of adecision, that discipline you
were talking earlier, things arekind of clear. You just, you
know, even if you don't knowwhat the end of the day look
like, you know what you'resupposed to do right now. You
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know and and that's that's allthat's important. You do what
you're supposed to do right now,what you're capable of, and
gotta dislike. You there. So,no, that's that's important, but
you just got that mindset aboutthat. And I hope, hope, you
know, others can develop amindset like that as well,
because it's very helpful. It'lltough situations where they come
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up,yeah, and they help you. It help
you.
It help you. Not worry so much,bro, like everything is like, as
long as you doing what yousupposed to do, like you
standing on purpose. Youstanding on purpose. You
studying your Bible, you you inthe Word, you still you living
on what you like. You know, welive in our flesh too, so we
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gotta still work, but we gotthings that, we got things that
align with God's purpose. So ifyou figure out what that is, and
you pursue that, and you have noworries, you have no worries, no
worries. Wow, yeah, nodoubt, yeah,
no doubt. Man, there's no doubt.
Right?
That's awesome. Man, uh, cool.
Man, so um, but you know, life,life still be life. And, you
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know, sometimes, so when lifegoes to life, and how do you
stay calm when balancingeverything?
Man, that's, I still strugglewith that one. I'm, I'm like,
bash ash done. Like stayingcalm. What staying calm?
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Man, like,I don't know, I guess it's still
you go into one of them thingswhere you just gotta take that
deep breath and yourself thatsomebody can always be going
through the worst in you. Wow.
And pray, bro, as pray, I alwayspray. Always keep you grounded
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it, keep it especially like, ifyou praying with meaning, like,
like, if you, if you goingthrough something, you literally
took God out. I need to staycalm. God. I need some help.
Like you, you pray with thatmeaning. I feel like that, that
it balance. It doesn't alwayshelp, because, again, I still
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struggle with staying calm.
Like, when you say stay calm, Ifeel
like it just reminds me of, liketurning the other cheek, like,
imagine getting slapped bysomebody and then trying to stay
calm. I don't know if I'm atthat level yet. I don't know
it's like, even with, even with,like, at my job, I work from
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home, so some of theconversations with people about
about their loans andeverything, it get kind of
jazzy. So sometimes I go there,sometimes I don't. I'm still
struggling, so I'm gettingbetter, though, because, like, I
can I recognize that I'm gettingbetter, but like, I'd be, I feel
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the compassion sometimes I'll belike, Man, I'll be just as
frustrated with them about theseloans, if I didn't notice, and
know all of that. So yeah, man,I would say staying calm is no
seeking that compassion forpeople, prayer and them, deep
breaths that will happen.
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Yeah. Man, that's good. Man,that's good. Hey, I definitely
have my moments too, and Lordalways know how to get me. It
seems likeyou see, like you know just what
to say. Like, oh, you you feelso calm about that you want me
to let you know how I feel aboutyou, and I'll be like, No, not
really, not really right.
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I came a long way. You don'thave to tell me you're right.
You're right.
Why the things on my mindsometimes I can't even because I
might not do what I used to do,but I still do the
stumble is real, yeah,man, my goodness. So Wow. So we
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going to end it with the lastquestion, man, can you share an
example of how God turned afailure or set back into
something good in your life?
That was a good one. I sat onthat one too, like I looked at
that question. I was like anexample of how God turned the
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failure or sent back intosomething good in life,
I would have to say,I would just have to say, Man,
that I'm just glad that I'm backinto that word. I feel like that
was my failure, bro, wow. Like,I feel like that was my failure.
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Man, that's so, yeah, that's Ieven wrote that, like, man, DJ,
I think I even bring this up toyou, like, you got a Caribbean
background, bro, you don't, youwasn't even, like, raised in the
church, or, none of that, right,that you found God. You found
him? Or Eddie with it too?
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Hey, he found me. Man, I wasrunning. Man,
like, when I look at thatquestion, right, first thing I
think about is, raised in thechurch, but from birth to all
the way to like six, six yearsold, seven years old, wake up,
go to church. Make you go tochurch, whatever, every Sunday.
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Then I get old and go all, allof course, from believing in raw
and sun god, what?
Yeah, man, goodtoo, bro. And that's, that's
what I feel like, that lastpart, when he say, when you ask,
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and turned it into somethinggood in your life. That's, I
feel like Tango style issupposed to go through it. But I
just feel like I'm so gratefulthat I'm back into the Word and
reading the Word and digestingit too, the same way I was so
infatuated with all that otherstuff, the Bucha, the Yogis and
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the chip, all of the mythologystuff. I'm just as infatuated
with this Bible now. So that'sright, that's my that was my
failure, that he turned intosomething good. Bro, just
turning away from the faith foranother reason. Bro, it's for no
reason, but just it's doingstuff
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well, you know, I'm gonna takethis time to really kind of
speak on that, if you don'tmind, because I do believe, you
know, I always call myself anoutsider came in. So now I'm
inside the church failed. Andnot every church, of course, but
a lot of churches and a lot ofpeople that that supposedly
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represent God have failed in thesense that I'm and I'm not going
to say everybody was out theredoing wrong, per se, but not
intentionally, doing rightaccording to the word is also
bad, because people are in need,and God's people are equipped
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with gifts, skills, talents,abilities, resources, light,
hope, that is meant to be sharedwith the people that are in need
of those things, and that hasn'tbeen done. Unfortunately, a lot
of people went to church growingup, but they never knew God, and
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I can't blame a person forleaving the church, because
Satan is good at what he does.
Man, if there's no real biblicalgrounding, Satan can snatch you,
you know, and that's why I'm soheavy into that word, because I
realized most of the people thatrepresent God are not in that
word and but these are therepresentatives you feel me so
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that go back to that. That'sthat. Go back to that question
you asked me like, that's why Isay I I had to do the research
for myself, or we had to, I hadto get out here and read it for
myself, because even in themidst of me, like, you know,
trying my best to come back toit, I'm just looking at videos.
Like I said. I was looking atthe Israelites. I seen, what's
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the, what's the old dude, GinoJennings. I'm looking at looking
they see the TD Jakes now, like,so it's a, it's a lot of stuff
out here that'll be like, man,what am I even trying to wow,
wow. I'm trying to come back tothe faith of these, if these is
your kings, like, if these isthe representatives of heaven,
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like, no way. But that's when Irealized, man, I I'm gonna jump
in this word for myself, becauseI know how that YouTube stuff
work too. People just be onthere trying to get a bag like,
it ain't really. It ain't reallyfor a place of worship, for
real, for real, bro,yeah, yeah, yeah, most
definitely not. It's not. It'snothing biblical about wellness
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is nothing this. There's a lotof things that's not biblical
about most churches and whatthey do, I feel like it don't
necessarily be evil things thatthey're doing. However, it's
still not biblical. So what'sthe point? You know? What? What
are we here for? You know, ifwe're not going to be in this
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Bible, we're we only know theterm Jesus and God because of
this Bible, you know, and churchand all these things praise, all
of these things come from thisbook. So why aren't we not in
this book? We as a body. Sohopefully, you know, I. There's
an awakening amongst God'speople, a revival amongst His
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remnant that has a major impacton the lives of other people and
showing and showing them, youknow, how the word is supposed
to be lived out? You know,because people don't have real
life examples, man, of how Godtell us to live our lives, and
it's unfortunate, then thatgives room for Satan to, you
know, play with your mind. Theysay the idle mind is the devil's
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playground. Yeah, let's put theword. Let's let our minds not be
idle. Let's think of the thingsof the Lord, you know,
like, that's, that's what I'msaying, man, like, that's, I'm
one of those people with thoseidle minds, but not, not
anymore, but that's what it islike. That's when all of those
addictions and afflictions comein, bro, I just, I don't mind
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not knowing what to do with yourtime
exactly. He's the devil going tomake sure you got something, and
he going to make sure you likeit, because he know everything
ain't for everybody. You knowhe's not. He can't, he can't
tempt me with certain things,certain sins. You know, he can
miss me with all that. Butthere's other sins that I need
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the Lord to carry me away from.
Listen, lift me up, Lord, andremove me from this situation.
That's That's what I'm saying.
That's why, bro, that's why I'mstuck on this. This because this
when they say to no wisdom andinstruction, bro, that mean you
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gotta be teachable. That that'slike, I don't, that's what I'm
saying three weeks, bro. It'sbothering me because it's like,
I keep, I keep breaking it downand reducing it I'm like, oh,
yo. To know wisdom andinstruction means you have to be
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teachable. You have, you have tobe in the mindset of, of God's
wisdom, of God's way, like it's,it's not just that, oh, I'm
reading about nah, nah. That'sand then that instruction part,
like discipline, the disciplineto care, to maintain the
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righteousness, bro, like, eventhough we do stumble, like the
small stumbles, counting thatdiscipline that we have, yeah,
yeah,yeah, God, God, It ain't, it
ain't. It's not overlooked,yeah, yeah. It's like, Um, what
else? It's number three, toreceive the instruction of
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wisdom, justice, judgment,equity. When he say to receive
it, that mean that you thatyou've done it right then,
because it say to no wisdom,instruction to perceive the
words of understanding, to toperceive meaning. It's not it's
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almost like a guest, like youperceive meaning you don't have
the full understanding. You justreaching out for this divine
knowledge. Then it says toreceive. So you to perceive the
words of understanding, toreceive the instruction of
wisdom, justice, judgment andequity. That mean you got it
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right. That mean your perceptionwas right. Bro.
Come on. Come on. Talk to him.
The only way you can get yourperception right is if you read
in this book, that'sit, man, we I tell people all
the time, we did not createourselves. There's nothing that
was created,that was created without a
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purpose. So,a car was created to transport
you, you know. A hammer wascreated for the nails, you know.
So we were created for aparticular purpose. And you
know, it's important for us totap in to that word to find out
what our purpose is. Becauseeverybody's purpose of going to
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the word is to give God glory.
Every human being was created togive their life in total
surrenderance to God for Hisglory. However, how we do that
is different for each person,and because, again, it's not
just praise and worship on aSunday morning, you know, a
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wholehouse. And take how many tools
and how many types of tool todo,
right? Right, right? All right.
As it go. It go deep,bro, is this one turning to a
Biblesession? Amen, listen, the Lord
is going to have his way when itcomes to me. You know, I told
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him I will it to be used beforethis. This session started in my
in my prayer time with Him.
Amen. And so now I'm glad, I'mglad that we got a chance to to
preach a little bit. Yes, sir.
But man, that was great. Man, Idefinitely thank you for joining
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the podcast today. Man, again,for being the first person,
first guest on this definitelygoing to have you back in the
future, just to just to see howfar we came. You know what I
mean? You know stuff like that.
But any last words you want togive to the people, any contact,
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anything got going on you wantto just share, or whatever the
Spirit leading you to say,make sure y'all follow me. P
Haynes, 305, make sure youfollow the nonprofit. Change the
tracks. Um, that's change thetracks.org as well. And, uh,
yeah, it's all glad you glory.
Amen. Amen.
Amen. Man, again, I appreciateyou. Pat man, thank you so much,
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my brother. Thank you.
Appreciateyou much. Love Alright, man, you
have a good you.
Welcome to give it your all, the podcast where we dive
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deep into life's biggestchallenges and victories through
a biblical lens. I'm your host,Daryl Baptist junior, and I'm
excited to introduce you to theofficial first guest on the
show, my friend, my brother,Pat. Man, it's, it's just an
honor to know this brother. Man,we go back from college days
back in the early 2010s youknow, the early ages. Man, it's
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been cool. You know, we can saythat now, getting a little bit
old. It's been about over 10years now. So we could
definitely say that, but, butright now. Man, Pat is amazing
brother. You know, he's alsoknown as the diabetic
preventionist. You know, he's achef, a nutrition educator and
an advocate dedicated toempowering individuals to make
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healthier food choices,combining culinary skills with a
deep understanding of nutrition.
Pat focuses on teaching theimportance of managing
carbohydrates, avoidingprocessed foods and embracing
whole, nutrient dense mealsthrough workshops, Cookie
demonstrations and communityoutreach. Pat inspires
sustainable lifestyles changesto prevent diabetes and promote
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overall health. So welcome tothe show, Pat. Man, how you
doing today? Iam doing pretty well. Man, that
is a great intro. I appreciatethat, brother. Thank you. Thank
you. Yeah,sir. Man, this is honor. Man,
it's definitely an honor, bro.
So yeah. Man, we going to jumpright into it today. Man, just
again. Thank you for being afirst official guest on the
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show. Man, it's an honor.
Playing on continuing this,being dedicated, being
committed. Man, it justhighlighting people that inspire
me. You definitely one of myinspirations out here. So I just
wanted to introduce the world toyou. You know, hopefully you
could inspire somebody else aswell. Bro, absolutely appreciate
that. Yes, sir. So who has beena significant spiritual
influence and how have theyimpacted your journey?
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I would say my brother, thatwould have to be you,
most definitely, man, that woulddefinitely have to be you. I
always think about thatconversation like you say, we've
been knowing each other forabout 10 years. So that one time
when you came to visit me, whenI was in the A you was with the
wife and everything that thatconversation that we had, man,
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that stuck with me for years. Idon't know if I could say it,
but I would go ahead and say it.
Say it. Man, because, you know,in college, we was believing in
all of that stuff. We was, Icarried on with that, like with
that man, um, believing in theAfrican Egyptology, Thoth, gof
raw and all of that stuff. Sowhen you came down and you
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visited, you was like,you basically gonna go to hell.
I remember the face that yourwife made, the like, like, it's
not even the words, is cool, butthe face that your wife made,
bro, I was like, Man, that'swhat always sat with me. Wow.
Like, after that, like, Istarted seeing all of them
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videos about who are, who arethose people, the Israelites,
right, right now the Israelites,they just started shunning
people on those YouTube videos.
And then that's when we reallystarted getting into that word.
You started taking me up underyour wing, like, hey, Nah, bro,
this high, this high, really golike the Israelites, they own to
something, but that, that hatredthat they got in their heart
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toward people, just shunningpeople, saying, you not going to
go to hell, like, or you goingto hell. They don't have to be
doing that. So that's, that'swhen I really started getting
into the word like, for real,for real. That's, that's the
part that helped me along, or Iwould say, like, how you
impacted my journey, about,like, just getting into this
word bro, like getting onpurpose and standing for
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it. Man, that's, that's amazing.
Man, I'm honored even just to bea part of that journey. Man,
because, you know, it'simportant. I I definitely care
about everybody, and I'm carefulnot to, you know, push my
beliefs down people throats oranything like that. But it is
important to kind of, like,stand on your beliefs, because
you never know how that canimpact somebody to eventually,
even if it's not in that moment,but eventually they can have or
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share that experience that Iknow is true, and that's just
that relationship with, youknow, God, you know at the end
of the day. So no, I thank youfor that, Brad, thank you for
that. Absolutely alright. Sotell us about the moment or time
when God called you to step intoyour purpose, and then how did
you respond to thatman, I would say, along this
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journey with this food, man likeyou have known me for a long
time. Bro, I've been vegan foralmost 10 years, so I was
believing in the narrative aboutthe food instead of actually
doing the research and doing thereading, just the same thing
that I was doing with the Bible,instead of actually doing the
reading and doing the researchand having a true discernment
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about the information formyself, I'm just going off of
what people saying. So I wasdoing that for my diet. It and
with the Bible. So when Iactually started doing that
reading and doing that researchfor myself, like I started
seeing all of the informationthat that I was getting was just
wrong, especially about food andnutrition, how to eat,
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sicknesses and chronic diseasesand where they come from. So
when I start, when I realizedthat that's what. That's when it
hit me. I'm like, wait, let meread this Bible. Let me get the
true information about thisBible too. While I'm getting the
true information or themisinformation about this rule,
let me do both. So that's that'swhen it kind of hit me. I'm
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like, man, okay, let me educatemyself about all of this, about
all of this food, and also letme educate myself about the
Bible, instead of just going offof what people are saying, what
people have to say, what peopleall of the videos, or I don't
believe in this, or I don'tbelieve in that, it's like, it's
the food, the like the videosthat they do with the food, of
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how they say, Oh, you need to beon this certain diet to do this.
It's the same with religion.
They say, Oh, you need tobelieve in this certain religion
and make it I'm like, Okay, it'ssome real it's some real
research and some real reading,some real true discernment, some
real understanding that I needto get to, like, you know, just
kind of shift through all ofthat. Bs, wow, yeah,
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man, that's, that's deep. That'sdeep, man, especially how you
tied it to that, you know, howGod used that. So, you know,
kind of my question to thatwould be, what made you, what
made you, correlated to the foodand the word, it just, was it
timing? Or what what would youattribute that to? When
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I got that continuous glucosemonitor, when I can, when I can
see it for myself, bro, likewhen nobody can tell you
nothing. It's just like when youread in the Bible and and like
you get that true discernmentand that true answer, can't
nobody tell you nothing. Nobodytell you like, Oh, is it he said
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it this way? No, no, no, no, no,you can't tell me that. I read
it for myself. So when I gotthat continuous glucose monitor
and I'm stuck in my face withall of these vegan food,
vegetarian food, making thefalafels, chickpeas heavy on the
carbohydrates, even though theywant to say it's complex carbs
and it gradually spike yourglucose levels, it's still
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spiking rather it's one hour ortwo, like two hours, it's still
going to spike your levels. Ican eat six I can eat six
falafels, bro, and my glucoselevels are spiking damn near on
pre diabetic levels. Once I seenthat information, I'm like, No,
that you Nobody can't tell menothing like I've done the test
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on my own body. No, I don't carewhat vegan influencer, no, they
they haven't done no research.
They ain't done no research onthemselves. They probably don't
even read the real NationalInstitute of Health like they,
they probably don't even readacademic research for
themselves. So that's, that'sanother thing, like, bro, I just
got tired of listening to peoplerather, rather it came to the
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food or or religion, bro. Yougotta get that word for
yourself.
Amen. Amen, to that man. That's,that's, that's powerful, like
how you correlated to, you know,today, once you see it for
yourself, it's like, alright,you can't, you can't play me no
more, you know, it's a, youknow, I see it, I proof. Where's
your proof? You know, is it justwords? Or you got some numbers,
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some data backing stuff up? Andusually it's just words, or they
conveniently leave their datahome, or something, you know,
but it's about just educatingbro, like you got to educate
yourselves. And even when youeducating others, you have to
educate them in a way, so theygo seek the information, not
that you need to,like you're the sole provider.
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Okay, yeah, wow. All right,that's, that's deep man. I like
that. So, you know, we're gonnatransition man that's, that's
deep man that's deep. So whatwould you say your favorite
Bible verse of passage thathelps you stay encouraged during
challenging times? And how doesthat look in action? That's
a perfect transition. I actuallygot a couple of, but the
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transition is Proverbs, three.
Proverbs, three, five. I gotthat on my phone, um, it's, uh,
lean not on your ownunderstanding. I cannot remember
that the whole lean not on,yeah, trust in the Lord with all
your with all your heart andlean not on your own
understanding. That right there.
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Man, that one right there. Ikeep it on my phone, like I
said, I look at it every day, soI keep that one on my phone
because I feel like, that's whatI was doing. Bro, like, that's
what I was doing. Daryl, like,it's, it's something we like we
have to understand, you. Wedon't have all the answers, no
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matter how much study, no matterhow much reading, we don't have
all the answers. True answersgonna come from the Divine. So
it's, it's the to get true, trueanswers from the Divine, you
have to follow divineinstruction. So that's when I
say I had a two up. That firstone is still in Proverbs. I tell
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you about this one all the time.
I'm still sitting with it. DJ,Proverbs, chapter one, yeah,
chapter one. Verse two, to knowwisdom and instruction to the
words of understanding, toreceive the instruction of
wisdom, justice, judgment andequity. Oh, my God,
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man. So like, both of those,like, I just been tying them two
together, like, so don't lean onyour own understanding, because
youyou have to perceive the words
of understanding.
You feel me like you can't leanyou can't if you, if you think
you know it all, how you gonnaperceive understanding from God,
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right? That's deep, that's deep,that's deep.
And then it speak to no wisdomand instruction, like, nice. So
wisdom to me when, like, when Ithink about it is like that
moral guidance. Is that right orwrong? And then the instruction
is the discipline. It's theability to maintain the right
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like that. That's what that'swhat it means to me to to know
wisdom and to know instruction.
Steve, the instruction ofwisdom, justice, judgment,
equity, yeah, those, those tworight there. I'm sitting with
them, bro. I'm sitting with themright now. We Yes, I keep coming
up with, uh, I keep breakingthem down, bro. Every, every
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time I read that, uh, thatprogress I started off, I keep
breaking it down. Wow. That's,that's one for me. That's like,
it's like, when you say, What'sone of my favorite ones right
now, that's one of my favoriteones because it's like, it
transitioned into the nextquestion. Like, when you say I
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when, like, if I'm ever having adoubt, right? Yeah, if I'm ever
having a doubt about somethinglike it, ain't I can't even say
that I'm having a doubt becauseI don't even know, right? That's
how I'm even that's howliterally I'm taking it right
now, right? No, if it's a doubt,let me not even worry about it,
because God said that's, that'smy own understanding, thinking,
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that I have doubt, right? Evenworry about,
yeah, man, that's important, youknow. So for those that know
it's the question is, how do youadvocate moments of doubt or
questioning your relationshipwith God? And you know, you, you
know, in my, in myinterpretation of that you
pretty much answered it. It'slike, whenever it comes up, or
anything of the nature comes up.
You do what the Word says youyou take all thoughts captive
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and make it submissive to theWord of God. And you know, and
it's just a natural response,regardless if you even looked at
it that way or not. That's whatthe you know, Holy Spirit does
within you. You know God. God isthe one who does it all because
our flesh and is not doing godlythings, you know what I mean? So
it's definitely God and us doingthe godly thing. So
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one of the dudes that I love towatch, his name Cliff nectel. I
think I always tell you abouthim, bro, he break it down all
of the time. He says, like, ifyou really have a true doubt and
believing in God, then youshould, you should literally
doubt all history. We wasn'tthere when George Washington
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died, and we wasn't there whenanything you can name back in
the 1800s we wasn't there forbut we believe it. We hold, we
hold strong to it, like us.
Constitution, nobody wasn't.
Nobody alive today was therewhen that, when that thing was
written, but that thing is partof the law. That's the law. You
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feel me like that. I have notrouble believing that God, that
God's law. If we believe in theUS Constitution, I have no
problem believing in God's love.
That's a good mindset to haveabout it.
You know, because I believe it'svery easy if you're doing it on
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your own, leaning on your ownunderstanding, to live in doubt
or always have questions aboutwhat God's doing, versus when
you have, when you live off of adecision, that discipline you
were talking earlier, things arekind of clear. You just, you
know, even if you don't knowwhat the end of the day look
like, you know what you'resupposed to do right now. You
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know and and that's that's allthat's important. You do what
you're supposed to do right now,what you're capable of, and
gotta dislike. You there. So,no, that's that's important, but
you just got that mindset aboutthat. And I hope, hope, you
know, others can develop amindset like that as well,
because it's very helpful. It'lltough situations where they come
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up,yeah, and they help you. It help
you.
It help you. Not worry so much,bro, like everything is like, as
long as you doing what yousupposed to do, like you
standing on purpose. Youstanding on purpose. You
studying your Bible, you you inthe Word, you still you living
on what you like. You know, welive in our flesh too, so we
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gotta still work, but we gotthings that, we got things that
align with God's purpose. So ifyou figure out what that is, and
you pursue that, and you have noworries, you have no worries, no
worries. Wow, yeah, nodoubt, yeah,
no doubt. Man, there's no doubt.
Right?
That's awesome. Man, uh, cool.
Man, so um, but you know, life,life still be life. And, you
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know, sometimes, so when lifegoes to life, and how do you
stay calm when balancingeverything?
Man, that's, I still strugglewith that one. I'm, I'm like,
bash ash done. Like stayingcalm. What staying calm?
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Man, like,I don't know, I guess it's still
you go into one of them thingswhere you just gotta take that
deep breath and yourself thatsomebody can always be going
through the worst in you. Wow.
And pray, bro, as pray, I alwayspray. Always keep you grounded
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it, keep it especially like, ifyou praying with meaning, like,
like, if you, if you goingthrough something, you literally
took God out. I need to staycalm. God. I need some help.
Like you, you pray with thatmeaning. I feel like that, that
it balance. It doesn't alwayshelp, because, again, I still
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struggle with staying calm.
Like, when you say stay calm, Ifeel
like it just reminds me of, liketurning the other cheek, like,
imagine getting slapped bysomebody and then trying to stay
calm. I don't know if I'm atthat level yet. I don't know
it's like, even with, even with,like, at my job, I work from
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home, so some of theconversations with people about
about their loans andeverything, it get kind of
jazzy. So sometimes I go there,sometimes I don't. I'm still
struggling, so I'm gettingbetter, though, because, like, I
can I recognize that I'm gettingbetter, but like, I'd be, I feel
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the compassion sometimes I'll belike, Man, I'll be just as
frustrated with them about theseloans, if I didn't notice, and
know all of that. So yeah, man,I would say staying calm is no
seeking that compassion forpeople, prayer and them, deep
breaths that will happen.
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Yeah. Man, that's good. Man,that's good. Hey, I definitely
have my moments too, and Lordalways know how to get me. It
seems likeyou see, like you know just what
to say. Like, oh, you you feelso calm about that you want me
to let you know how I feel aboutyou, and I'll be like, No, not
really, not really right.
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I came a long way. You don'thave to tell me you're right.
You're right.
Why the things on my mindsometimes I can't even because I
might not do what I used to do,but I still do the
stumble is real, yeah,man, my goodness. So Wow. So we
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going to end it with the lastquestion, man, can you share an
example of how God turned afailure or set back into
something good in your life?
That was a good one. I sat onthat one too, like I looked at
that question. I was like anexample of how God turned the
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failure or sent back intosomething good in life,
I would have to say,I would just have to say, Man,
that I'm just glad that I'm backinto that word. I feel like that
was my failure, bro, wow. Like,I feel like that was my failure.
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Man, that's so, yeah, that's Ieven wrote that, like, man, DJ,
I think I even bring this up toyou, like, you got a Caribbean
background, bro, you don't, youwasn't even, like, raised in the
church, or, none of that, right,that you found God. You found
him? Or Eddie with it too?
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Hey, he found me. Man, I wasrunning. Man,
like, when I look at thatquestion, right, first thing I
think about is, raised in thechurch, but from birth to all
the way to like six, six yearsold, seven years old, wake up,
go to church. Make you go tochurch, whatever, every Sunday.
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Then I get old and go all, allof course, from believing in raw
and sun god, what?
Yeah, man, goodtoo, bro. And that's, that's
what I feel like, that lastpart, when he say, when you ask,
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and turned it into somethinggood in your life. That's, I
feel like Tango style issupposed to go through it. But I
just feel like I'm so gratefulthat I'm back into the Word and
reading the Word and digestingit too, the same way I was so
infatuated with all that otherstuff, the Bucha, the Yogis and
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the chip, all of the mythologystuff. I'm just as infatuated
with this Bible now. So that'sright, that's my that was my
failure, that he turned intosomething good. Bro, just
turning away from the faith foranother reason. Bro, it's for no
reason, but just it's doingstuff
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well, you know, I'm gonna takethis time to really kind of
speak on that, if you don'tmind, because I do believe, you
know, I always call myself anoutsider came in. So now I'm
inside the church failed. Andnot every church, of course, but
a lot of churches and a lot ofpeople that that supposedly
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represent God have failed in thesense that I'm and I'm not going
to say everybody was out theredoing wrong, per se, but not
intentionally, doing rightaccording to the word is also
bad, because people are in need,and God's people are equipped
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with gifts, skills, talents,abilities, resources, light,
hope, that is meant to be sharedwith the people that are in need
of those things, and that hasn'tbeen done. Unfortunately, a lot
of people went to church growingup, but they never knew God, and
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I can't blame a person forleaving the church, because
Satan is good at what he does.
Man, if there's no real biblicalgrounding, Satan can snatch you,
you know, and that's why I'm soheavy into that word, because I
realized most of the people thatrepresent God are not in that
word and but these are therepresentatives you feel me so
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that go back to that. That'sthat. Go back to that question
you asked me like, that's why Isay I I had to do the research
for myself, or we had to, I hadto get out here and read it for
myself, because even in themidst of me, like, you know,
trying my best to come back toit, I'm just looking at videos.
Like I said. I was looking atthe Israelites. I seen, what's
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the, what's the old dude, GinoJennings. I'm looking at looking
they see the TD Jakes now, like,so it's a, it's a lot of stuff
out here that'll be like, man,what am I even trying to wow,
wow. I'm trying to come back tothe faith of these, if these is
your kings, like, if these isthe representatives of heaven,
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like, no way. But that's when Irealized, man, I I'm gonna jump
in this word for myself, becauseI know how that YouTube stuff
work too. People just be onthere trying to get a bag like,
it ain't really. It ain't reallyfor a place of worship, for
real, for real, bro,yeah, yeah, yeah, most
definitely not. It's not. It'snothing biblical about wellness
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is nothing this. There's a lotof things that's not biblical
about most churches and whatthey do, I feel like it don't
necessarily be evil things thatthey're doing. However, it's
still not biblical. So what'sthe point? You know? What? What
are we here for? You know, ifwe're not going to be in this
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Bible, we're we only know theterm Jesus and God because of
this Bible, you know, and churchand all these things praise, all
of these things come from thisbook. So why aren't we not in
this book? We as a body. Sohopefully, you know, I. There's
an awakening amongst God'speople, a revival amongst His
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remnant that has a major impacton the lives of other people and
showing and showing them, youknow, how the word is supposed
to be lived out? You know,because people don't have real
life examples, man, of how Godtell us to live our lives, and
it's unfortunate, then thatgives room for Satan to, you
know, play with your mind. Theysay the idle mind is the devil's
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playground. Yeah, let's put theword. Let's let our minds not be
idle. Let's think of the thingsof the Lord, you know,
like, that's, that's what I'msaying, man, like, that's, I'm
one of those people with thoseidle minds, but not, not
anymore, but that's what it islike. That's when all of those
addictions and afflictions comein, bro, I just, I don't mind
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not knowing what to do with yourtime
exactly. He's the devil going tomake sure you got something, and
he going to make sure you likeit, because he know everything
ain't for everybody. You knowhe's not. He can't, he can't
tempt me with certain things,certain sins. You know, he can
miss me with all that. Butthere's other sins that I need
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the Lord to carry me away from.
Listen, lift me up, Lord, andremove me from this situation.
That's That's what I'm saying.
That's why, bro, that's why I'mstuck on this. This because this
when they say to no wisdom andinstruction, bro, that mean you
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gotta be teachable. That that'slike, I don't, that's what I'm
saying three weeks, bro. It'sbothering me because it's like,
I keep, I keep breaking it downand reducing it I'm like, oh,
yo. To know wisdom andinstruction means you have to be
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teachable. You have, you have tobe in the mindset of, of God's
wisdom, of God's way, like it's,it's not just that, oh, I'm
reading about nah, nah. That'sand then that instruction part,
like discipline, the disciplineto care, to maintain the
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righteousness, bro, like, eventhough we do stumble, like the
small stumbles, counting thatdiscipline that we have, yeah,
yeah,yeah, God, God, It ain't, it
ain't. It's not overlooked,yeah, yeah. It's like, Um, what
else? It's number three, toreceive the instruction of
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wisdom, justice, judgment,equity. When he say to receive
it, that mean that you thatyou've done it right then,
because it say to no wisdom,instruction to perceive the
words of understanding, to toperceive meaning. It's not it's
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almost like a guest, like youperceive meaning you don't have
the full understanding. You justreaching out for this divine
knowledge. Then it says toreceive. So you to perceive the
words of understanding, toreceive the instruction of
wisdom, justice, judgment andequity. That mean you got it
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right. That mean your perceptionwas right. Bro.
Come on. Come on. Talk to him.
The only way you can get yourperception right is if you read
in this book, that'sit, man, we I tell people all
the time, we did not createourselves. There's nothing that
was created,that was created without a
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purpose. So,a car was created to transport
you, you know. A hammer wascreated for the nails, you know.
So we were created for aparticular purpose. And you
know, it's important for us totap in to that word to find out
what our purpose is. Becauseeverybody's purpose of going to
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the word is to give God glory.
Every human being was created togive their life in total
surrenderance to God for Hisglory. However, how we do that
is different for each person,and because, again, it's not
just praise and worship on aSunday morning, you know, a
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wholehouse. And take how many tools
and how many types of tool todo,
right? Right, right? All right.
As it go. It go deep,bro, is this one turning to a
Biblesession? Amen, listen, the Lord
is going to have his way when itcomes to me. You know, I told
(29:50):
him I will it to be used beforethis. This session started in my
in my prayer time with Him.
Amen. And so now I'm glad, I'mglad that we got a chance to to
preach a little bit. Yes, sir.
But man, that was great. Man, Idefinitely thank you for joining
(30:11):
the podcast today. Man, again,for being the first person,
first guest on this definitelygoing to have you back in the
future, just to just to see howfar we came. You know what I
mean? You know stuff like that.
But any last words you want togive to the people, any contact,
(30:31):
anything got going on you wantto just share, or whatever the
Spirit leading you to say,make sure y'all follow me. P
Haynes, 305, make sure youfollow the nonprofit. Change the
tracks. Um, that's change thetracks.org as well. And, uh,
yeah, it's all glad you glory.
Amen. Amen.
Amen. Man, again, I appreciateyou. Pat man, thank you so much,
(30:54):
my brother. Thank you.
Appreciateyou much. Love Alright, man, you
have a good you.
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