What does depression really feel like — and how is it different from ordinary sadness?
In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, psychologists Dr. Robert Duff, Dr. Margaret Rutherford, and Dr. Maduka Trivedi help clarify one of the most misunderstood topics in mental health. While sadness is a temporary emotional state, depression is a serious and persistent illness that can impact every part of life.
Through metaphors, expert insights, and lived experience, our guests explain why depression is not a weakness, why positive events don’t always “snap someone out of it,” and what symptoms signal a need for professional help. If you’ve ever wondered whether what you—or someone you love—are experiencing is sadness or depression, this episode offers clarity, validation, and hope.
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Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction: Why sadness and depression are often confused
01:14 – Episode overview and why this distinction matters
02:24 – Dr. Robert Duff on “Big D” vs. “Little d” depression
03:24 – Depression as a recurring uphill battle
04:25 – Metaphors: depression as a “parasite” that feeds on itself
05:09 – Dr. Margaret Rutherford on crossing from sadness into depression
06:55 – Why depression consumes daily life in a way sadness does not
07:07 – Forgetting happiness: why it’s not a choice
07:31 – Depression as a genetic predisposition, not weakness
08:45 – Dr. Maduka Trivedi: the two major signals of depression
09:48 – Why positive events don’t always shift depression’s weight
10:23 – WebMD’s nine symptoms of major depression
11:22 – How to recognize major depressive disorder
11:33 – Treatment options: therapy, medication, and sleep hygiene
11:45 – Closing encouragement for those living with depression
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