March 5, 2025 • 39 mins
Ever been the only one in the room? The only woman, the only person of color, the only one who doesn’t quite “fit the mold”? It can feel isolating—but what if being the only is actually your greatest strength?
In this powerful episode, I sit down with Angela Chee—media and communication coach, former TV anchor, keynote speaker, and author of The Power of the Only (coming March 2025). Angela shares how to own your space, break through limiting beliefs, and amplify your voice—no matter the room you walk into.
We dive into:
🔥 The 5 key principles to stepping into your power
🔥 Why authenticity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s strategic
🔥 How to navigate environments that don’t always welcome you
🔥 Overcoming imposter syndrome and using fear as fuel
🔥 The science-backed reason you must celebrate your wins
This episode is packed with real talk, research-backed insights, and actionable strategies to help you lead with confidence.
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Have you ever walked into a room and
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realized you're the only onelike you?
The only woman, the only personof color, the only one who
doesn't seem to fit the mold.
That feeling of being the only.
It can be isolating,intimidating, and sometimes it
can be just downrightexhausting.
But what if I told you thatbeing the only one is actually
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your superpower?
Now today I'm joined by AngelaChi, a powerhouse media coach,
former TV anchor and keynotespeaker who has spent decades
breaking barriers.
She's here to share how you canown your only, turn it into your
greatest strength, and stepfully into your power.
No matter the room you walkinto.
You are listening to the GlassCeiling and Sticky Floor
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podcast, the show that's here toempower you to break free from
limiting beliefs.
Ditch toxic behaviors and unlockthe infinite possibilities
waiting for you.
This is your time to live yourbest life unapologetically.
I'm Erika Rooney, your host andbiggest cheerleader, on a
mission to get more women intopositions of power and keep them
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there where they belong.
If you're ready to shatterceilings, crush self doubt, and
build a career and lifeoverflowing with growth and
abundance, you're in the rightplace.
Here's the deal.
We talk about the real stuffhere.
Imposter syndrome,perfectionism, fear, burnout,
you name it, we talk about it.
It's raw, it's honest, and it'sexactly what you need to level
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up.
So grab a seat, pop in thoseearbuds, and let's dive in.
erica_1_01-29-2025_13092 (01:34):
Today, I am thrilled to welcome Angela
Chi, a powerhouse in media andcommunication, to the podcast.
Now, Angela is a media andcommunication coach.
She is award winning former TVanchor and a keynote speaker.
She is also the creator of YouAmplified, which is a
transformative leadershipnetwork and host of the Power of
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the Only podcast.
Angela has decades of experiencein media, hosting shows for
major networks like E!Entertainment, HGTV, and even
launching Entertainment TonightChina.
But beyond her accolades,Angela's mission is clear, to
empower people to own theirstory and lead with
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authenticity.
And she has a book coming out inMarch of 2025 called The Power
of the Only.
So Angela, welcome to the GlassCeiling and Sticky Floor
Podcast.
It's so great to have you here.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (02:27):
Oh, thank you so much, Erica.
We've been waiting for this.
I love
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (02:30):
have been waiting.
And so Angela, for all myfriends who don't know you as
well as I do, give me a littlebackground personally,
professionally, like who isAngela?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (02:40):
Yeah, well, right now I'm a crazy
person in book launch with twoteenagers juggling all that.
But yes, I am a former TV newsanchor and reporter, had a long
journalism career.
You know, imagine this.
Ever since I was little, Iwanted to be like Connie Chung.
So that's kind of how it allstarted.
Imagine, you know, um, an Asianimmigrant child growing up in
the suburbs of Los Angeles and Ifeel like I saw her on TV and I
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was like, something, you know,awoken in me.
And my dad's like, Hey, youcould be like Connie Chung.
And I was like, What really meand I think that planted a seed
and I kind of became that extraoverachiever high schooler You
know that had that set path, butI didn't go into news right away
I kind of took a detour intoentertainment.
So that's like stage one of mycareer, right?
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And then after I had my firstchild, um, I had reached the
pinnacle of Los Angeles.
I was a news anchor in San Diegoas well.
And I just kind of took a stepback and I was like, what do I
really want to create?
And I had been working nonstopwaking up at 2 a.
m.
and 3 a.
m.
all morning.
And I took a step back and Ikind of became, you know, uh,
like step into this motherhoodthing.
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And I raised two kids, but allthroughout that I stepped into,
people started asking me, how doI get on TV?
How do I do this?
And I really had to sit down andgo.
You know, what do I want my lifeto be?
What is that next phase?
So I thought I was just going tohost shows, take care of the
kids, still do some speaking.
And I really sat down withmyself and that's when You
Amplified happened, which is whoare you?
What do you stand for?
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And how do you want to show upin the world?
And so my work for the lastdecade has really been about
helping leaders, entrepreneurs,uh, as well as corporate leaders
really step into who they are,but through communication.
So I'm a communication coach.
I'm like your life coach meetscommunication coach.
And now for this next phase, I'mlaunching the new book.
My kids are teenagers now.
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And so it's always been ajuggle, right?
Your audience, I know they'realways juggling and there's so
many chapters to our life.
So it's hard to summarize all inone piece.
But yes, that's how Itransitioned from a wannabe
reporter to a TV news anchor andnow to a keynote speaker and a
communication coach.
And my goal is to really justawaken that gift in each
individual, because we allstruggle with the similar
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things, but going through thatjourney and peeling back those
layers to get to that youamplified core is really what
I'm here to help people do.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (04:56):
Oh, I love just the whole roadmap of
that,
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (04:59):
Yeah, it's a lot.
I'm sorry.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (05:01):
of people, yeah, would say you got
it.
You made it, you're on news.
Like that's it.
But you're like, no, no, no,that's not it for me.
Like, there's so much more Iwant to do in this world.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (05:11):
Yeah.
And for.
And for news it was the pinnacleand you know news has shifted
and I love and believe injournalism so much I left the
industry because my life wasshifting the chapters of my life
were shifting in the station Ifthey hadn't gone through certain
shifts, I might have stayed alittle longer But you know
circumstances happen just likeyou may love your career But
maybe the the job situation mayshift and so for those of you
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out there maybe in transitionJust know that you know, it
could be the same chapter in adifferent You know company or it
could be a whole new chapter andthat's what's exciting But yeah,
it was you know, i'd reachedthat pinnacle, but it wasn't the
end.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (05:48):
And in your book, The Power of the
Only, right, you talk about theexperience of being the only.
So kind of detail, what do youmean by that?
How were you the only, and thenhow did that shape your life?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (06:02):
Yes And uh, you know growing up as
an asian immigrant child I wasalways the only one in the
neighborhood and it didn'treally bother me You know, I
grew up in los angeles prettydiverse But in my neighborhood
where I was I was the only asiangirl growing up And I struggled
with that a little bit until myteen years and then you know,
obviously in competitiveindustries like entertainment
and uh news I was always Alwaysmostly the only woman and
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sometimes the only Asian womanand as a keynote speaker as you
know many times You know, you'rethe only woman in the room and
I'm sure your audience andlisteners know that you know
You're in room sometimes whereyou're the only one and
sometimes it can be superpowerful, but it's definitely
hard and so what happened for meis that I look through the this
String of my life and all thesestories I was at a mastermind
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conference about six seven yearsago and someone asked me and my
story and I was saying well Iwas the only one in this and the
only one in that and she's likeme too The only one and we
looked at each other and I said,but there's power in being the
only and it was like wow Youknow There was something in me
that like kind of erupted and Iknow certain people can find
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power in it but Because it's sohard navigating certain spaces a
lot of times like the women thatI talk to They don't see the
power in it Like I come up Ispeak and i'll have young girl
young women come up to me andthey go I have imposter syndrome
or I have this how did you dothat?
And I want people to see thatit's not that it's easy and just
be confident and you'll overcomeit It's really that there is
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power right?
That being the only is not aweakness.
It's your greatest strength.
And I spent the last four orfive years interviewing CEOs,
filmmakers, you know, authors,entrepreneurs to really get to
the core.
Why do some people feel thepower of the only And some don't
and then I backed it withresearch So that's really what
the is about is I felt the powerof the only and I did certain
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things to navigate spaces So,how can we own our voices and
thrive in any environment,right?
We don't have to wait for theworld to change to step into our
greatness So that is my gift tothe world is all that research
and my personal belief Backedwith a whole bunch of other
stories to really move thatforward
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (08:07):
I love that.
What were some of the reasonswhy some people do not lean into
the power of the only?
And it.
I guess, is it fear?
I mean, you tell me.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (08:18):
Yeah, well, I broke it down into five
principles and the principlesare pretty vague and they sound
familiar, but it starts withowning your opportunity and
owning your opportunity isn'tjust taking what's available to
you in front of you, not justbreaking through that fear, but
also when someone says it's notpossible.
Right?
We don't do that.
That hasn't been done before.
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You know, all the people I spoketo that stepped into their only,
they owned their opportunity,even when they said that it
wasn't possible.
I've been told no so many timesand figured out a way to
navigate around it.
So that's not easy.
Owning your power, knowing thatyou already have it.
It's not your title.
It's not a certain thing.
It's a mindset shift.
Right of knowing that you havethat power But in our society
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women are often told we don'thave that power and we often see
it, too We may be confident butthere's this subconscious thing
that we feel because it lives insociety own your voice Owning
your voice isn't just speakingup.
It's knowing that what you saymatters Right, and I know you
deal with this and talk aboutthis often those inner voices
It's not just the voice that weuse externally But the voice
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that we use internally to talkto ourselves and those that
truly step into their power Knowwhen those voices come up
doesn't mean that we don't havethem But they're able to
overcome it and I have someresearch and exercises in the
book to do that And mostimportantly owning your
communication And that's wheremy communication skills come in.
Owning your communication.
I believe that with AI, with allthe changes, technology, the
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most important thing still ishow do you communicate and
connect with others.
So that is super important.
And owning your future.
Owning your future.
You can't own your future ifyou're in this survival mode and
not thriving.
Right.
So for most of us as women, ifwe're overachievers, if we're
successful, we've been pushing,pushing, pushing.
And my whole thing is what gotme to where I was was great.
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I reached the top, but it's notwhat's going to allow me to
thrive into the future with twoteenagers and a full life ahead
of me.
And so we have to move into anew mode of thriving rather than
survival.
And I talked to so many leadersabout burnout and how the tools
that they have so that we cancontinue to thrive in any
environment.
So I know that's a lot, butthat's kind of how, um, together
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we can focus on each of theseareas and really see where do we
get stuck and then have thetools and the strategies to
navigate around them.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130 (10:41):
Alright, so the five principles are
owning your opportunities,owning your power, own your
voice, own your communication,and own your future.
And I want to dig in on this ownyour power because I believe
that, but I also know that somany people struggle and they
feel as if they're in situationswhere they don't have control.
Right?
And they don't feel like theyhave any power of the situation.
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What would you say to thatperson?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (11:05):
Yes.
You know, this is where in, um,I talk about discernment a
little bit.
Now, you can own your powerinternally, but you're still
going to run into, right, we, wedeal with corporations, titles,
you know, hierarchies, there arecertain cultures that just don't
fit.
And so we can do all that wecan, but it's also recognizing
sometimes the system doesn'twork with us.
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I think in the past there was alot put on women where it was
like, well, if you just do this,then you can own your power.
And it's not as simple as that.
And so that's why in the book Itell stories of not only.
What is on your power?
But why don't we own our power?
Right?
But knowing why we don't own ourpower gives us a little more
leverage.
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And the discernment comes in issometimes you can't, right?
It's like knowing when to, whenis it in your head?
And when is it a reality, right?
And when it's a reality,sometimes there comes a point
where you have to havediscernment.
What do I let in?
What do I let out?
What do I push for?
What do I sit out on?
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Doesn't mean you're weak.
Doesn't mean you don't havepower.
And so I think part of owningyour power is knowing that you
have the power to decide whenyou choose to use your power, to
push against it, or when to sitback or to navigate around it,
Or to create something else.
And so I think That is powerful.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (12:30):
I love that and I think what I
also really love about that andI preach a lot about is people
will say I don't have power overthe situation or I don't have
any control over that and it's,it's, it's like, yes, but.
You always have choice, right?
To stay or to go, right?
You have the power to, if you'rein a toxic like environment at
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work, like you don't have towork there.
You can leave and find anotherjob.
I'm not saying quit your job andgo run away and be
irresponsible.
If you're the breadwinner, yougot a family to take care of,
but you have the choice to say,okay, I'm not going to tolerate
it.
I'm going to start laying thegroundwork for what's next.
Right.
And I think the big thing that Ijust.
want to really express is likesometimes these powerful choices
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take a long time to come tofruition.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (13:19):
and that's why I talk about thrive
in any environment and I'm veryspecific this book.
I was very careful It is aleadership empowerment, you
know, go girl book and you know,it's not just for women But I
also didn't want to dismissactual things.
So you talked about you knowpeople I write about this in the
book.
There's a lot of people who sayburn all the bridges, you know
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So what it's not working go dothis and we have to recognize
that's not the same reality foreveryone Like you said some
people are locked into they havecertain things They need to meet
and then that's where thediscernment comes in and that's
where your power comes in Youget to decide what you need to
do and sometimes you need tounderstand That person may be
able to say you know what burnall the bridges.
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I'm out of here.
I'm doing that And also to honorthat sometimes people move at
different paces for whatevercircumstances are in your life.
And so I have a lot of exercisesfor people to take a look at
their holistic life and get tochoose what do I want to do and
what do I not want to do?
But by looking at your story,not comparing yourself to
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somebody else, it's like, Oh,well, if I want to have power,
then I need to do this.
And it's more about.
Ah, I understand why I I Ipersonally feel like I don't
have power or in this situationHere's why I feel like I don't
have power now.
How do I navigate?
For my individual needs.
How do I navigate for thissituation?
How do I navigate for thiscompany?
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And that may change or navigatefor the stage of your life,
right?
You may live your life one wayin the early part of your career
and at the latter part of yourcareer, you know what I've
changed and that's why I alsotake a deep dive into creating
your new vision and that visionsometimes, you know, I do this
for myself every four or fiveyears because we change as
people and what we value and howwe want to see our lives.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (15:08):
Ooh, create your new vision.
I like that.
I want to go back though.
Do you have, you said you have alot of exercises where people
can really work through thediscernment.
Can you share one of those withus?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (15:20):
Yes.
Um, well, you know, one of theways you talked about fear,
right?
You talked about why, why peopledon't do certain things.
You know, I find it'sinteresting is, um, not really
so much an exercise or we can gothrough the book, but like with
fear, you know, there's a studycalled The Spotlight, spotlight
Effect.
I'm not sure if you're aware ofthat, that we think people, you
know, noted us more than we do.
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So they people think you know,at least there was this
experiment where people werewearing t shirts, right?
And it's like oh if I wear thiscertain t shirt super, you know
with the title on it 50 percentof people will notice Well, it
turns out that 25 percent orless even know what's going on
or remember what you're doingAnd so that kind of takes the
edge off And so what theexercises do is allows us to see
that there's some researcharound Oh, you know, people
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aren't paying attention to me asmuch as I think they are.
But an exercise, you can thinkabout it.
So for my on camera coachingclients or even my communication
clients, they go, I have a fearof this or I have a fear of
that.
And to think about, well, it'snot actually fear.
It's like shifting from fear toenergy.
When you're doing something bigor about to do something, you
feel uncomfortable, right?
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There's those sensations.
People call it the pit in mystomach or, you know, my palms
get all sweaty, but it's yourEnergy activating, right?
So instead of seeing it as fearcoming towards you, it's that
your body is revving up and forto do something big and to be
proud of that and to use thatenergy for you.
An exercise that I do also forpeople who are not feeling in
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their power is we have atendency to forget how much
we've accomplished or who weare.
Especially if we're in a downpoint and you just asked me to
summarize my whole life in likea minute and for anyone that's
feeling in a down point, you'regoing to forget all those things
prior because maybe there'ssomething happening.
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So a tool that I like to havepeople do is to really just sit
down and write down all thethings that you are proud of.
You appreciate about yourself.
It could be an accomplishment.
It could be a trait.
It could be something that youtackled this week.
And I think it's reallyimportant to honor who we are
and to remember because ourbrain likes to forget the good
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things and remember the badthings.
And there's actually researchbehind that as well.
So this is kind of flipping yourcognitive brain and reminding
ourselves of all the good in ourlives.
And it doesn't have to just beaccomplishments, but it could be
traits or things that allow usto generate more positive energy
for us to go, Oh yeah, that didhappen, right?
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How many times has that happenedto you?
You're like, wait, I did dothat.
Wait, I did that too.
Wait, I already, you know, Ialready accomplished that.
Why am I so upset about this?
And so we need reminders.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (17:57):
Well, and I also think, too, as women,
we tend to brush those off.
You know, people will tell me,like, Oh my gosh, that was so
amazing, I can't believe you didthat.
And I'm like, oh, it's no bigdeal.
Move on to the next thing.
And so for me, I struggle to sitin that celebration and really
own it sometimes.
Gosh, so I would add a numbersix, own your wins.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (18:17):
Well, that, you know, you're going to
laugh.
That's one of the chapters,celebrate your wins is part of a
thriving, right?
So in order for us to move intoa thriving mindset, there's
actually research aroundcelebration to celebration
allows it to move from when youhave a recognition of something
and you pause and you focus andyou savor that moment, it
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actually moves it from yourshort term brain to your
longterm brain.
So when we brush things off,you're actually like ignoring it
when you actually take a momentto say thank you and to savor
and then to think about why do Icelebrate this or even mark it
for yourself.
Those little moments are thethings that train your brain in
the long term to move it intothat memory so you don't forget
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it, but it also increases allthose activations of endorphins
and dopamine, serotonin, allthose feel good chemicals.
And when you feel good, whathappens?
You're more productive.
You.
End up doing more and be able tobreak down those voices that
come up And so it's all thisbiochemical stuff that's coming
to you know, all those things belike celebrate your wins There's
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actually purpose behind it
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (19:22):
Oh my gosh.
Well, I'm a big evidence andscience fact girl, so I love
that you share that.
Because so many people want toskip the fluff.
All the time.
They want to skip the fluff.
And I'm guilty of that too.
I could not tell you, Angela, Itook me years to sit down and
just do my own values exercise
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (19:39):
Oh, yeah, it seems so simple, right?
It's too simple.
It's like, okay, great.
What is writing them down goingto do?
erica_1_01-29-2025_13092 (19:44):
right.
But now I know it, it reallydoes act as my moral compass if
I'm stuck with a decision and myvalues are courage, growth and
health and wellness.
So am I doing the thing acourageous person would do?
Am I doing something that agrowth minded individual would
do?
Is this what a healthy personwould do?
And it varies, It's very blackand white when you put it like
that.
And it helps me keep mydecisions and stay true to
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myself.
But if you don't do the fluffwork, you're not going to get
there.
So
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_100 (20:13):
is that in the last, you know, I
mean this research has beengoing on for ages people just
didn't recognize it It becamelike you said fluff or woo woo
and what happens is what'sinteresting is now that there's
neuroscience has become a studyNeuroscience wasn't even really
a study right before peopleweren't looking at the brain and
how does that affectperformance?
And so what I wanted to do withthis book is yes, I'm like, you
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know, I'm that spiritual go gethim girl Do all those things but
I'm also a journalist and so Ibacked it with stories Evidence
as well as studies because I waslike I celebrate my wins.
But what does that mean for mybrain?
How does that make us better?
and so it's important for us toground it in that especially for
people who are more intotangible evidence, but So more
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and more, there's so muchresearch out on all those things
that we've been taught that weresound kind of good, but you're
like, eh, that doesn't apply tome.
I don't need to do it.
You're literally training yourbrain to be aware of certain
things.
It's the subconsciousprogramming that's so important,
right?
By lining your values, and Ihave my speaking clients do that
too.
Before I have them walk into aroom, I'll give you another
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exercise.
I have them pick four adjectivesof how they want to show up in
their energy.
Because your energy walks inbefore you do right and people
may say oh energy, whatever.
I'm just I memorized my slidesI'm going to walk in I'm gonna
say what I'm going to say as youknow as a speaker as Any type of
and I don't want to callperformer because when you're
speaking you're talking yourtruth from the heart but any
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type of person that isPresenting energy or information
needs to get ready and one ofthe ways to get ready is to
think about how do I want to?
feel And how do I want otherpeople to feel?
And I write down four adjectivesand I almost channel it and
embody those emotions so thatwhen I show up on that stage,
I'm not thinking about, do Iwant to be inspirational,
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centered, energetic.
know, informative.
I just know for this audience,that's how I want to serve them
by writing them down.
It's almost like programming thecomputer and then you let your
body and your energy and yourtrue core take over.
But you're you're programmingyourself.
Yes.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (22:19):
you know what I think is really
powerful about that is Iremember very early in my
speaking career, and this kindof circles back to that
spotlight effect that you weretalking about.
I would be going into it.
Like I want to be seen as this.
I want them to think I am.
You know competent smart a goodspeaker and it's all about what
I want them to think of me Nothow do I want to show up and
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it's just this very subtle shiftBut I think that it is so
powerful because it takes numberone a little bit of the control
back, right?
I can't control how they view meor what they think but I can
control how I show up
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (22:57):
Yes.
And just by feeling it, right?
And how do I want them to feel?
You know, when I speak to agroup of high schoolers, very
different than I speak to, youknow, I do corporate trainings
with just women and I docorporate trainings with men and
women.
The energy shifts.
What I say, my expertise, thetopic I'm talking about, it does
not change.
That is who I am.
I'm not going to, you know,wibble, move back and forth for
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different audiences.
But I do shift my connection foreach audience because I'm
thinking about how can I servethem?
What are they thinking about?
What are they dealing with andwhat a high schooler's thinking
about is different than what amale ceo is thinking about and
so or a female ceo and so weneed to Think ahead as to how
can I serve them withoutchanging who we are?
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (23:44):
And to kind of go a little bit
deeper on that.
I know a lot of the women that Iwork with and speak with have
Attempted to be authentic,right?
But then that authenticitybecause of societal norms is, I
guess, made to be a negative.
So, for example, you're tooaggressive.
You're too much.
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You're too extra.
How does the woman who is beingtold all of those things
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (24:13):
yes,
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (24:14):
but in a, in an effective and
authentic way?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (24:17):
it's a hard balance right because
when they say, you know, I don'tnecessarily say be authentic I'm
like, I'm always like who areyou and how do you connect in
this situation?
And I think if you connect andare strategic about how you
connect in each situation youare being authentic So my goal
for people is to know who theyare.
First of all Right.
And taking those values, takingthe time to look at their
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values, who do they want toembody?
How do I want to be overall andhow do I want to be for the
situation?
And when you know who you areand you're aligned, it kind of
just sits within you, right?
If you do that work beforehand,it is part of who you are.
And then you need to think abouteach room.
How am I going to navigate thissituation in this room?
So I'm not asking people, youdon't need to be your full,
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authentic, full self every time.
That's not being inauthentic.
It's being a good communicator,right?
When you are a good communicatorand a good connector, how am I
serving this audience?
How am I serving my teammembers?
How am I serving this pitch?
How am I serving thisenvironment at this moment?
So I think sometimes people say,Oh, if you're not doing this,
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then you're not authentic.
I think being authentic is.
Just embodying who you are, butyou need to have discernment and
choose when am I going to letthat part show, right?
So it is hard because one of thereasons why people don't show up
fully is because sometimes somerooms aren't safe Right, they
are not Safe, they are not, youare not welcome.
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You can feel it.
You're not welcome.
And it just depends on thesituation Sometimes the feeling
of not being welcome is becauseyou've played into those own
stereotypes and it's internalSometimes it's real and it's
really hard.
It takes I think, you knowworking in corporate knowing how
to read a room properly So Idon't want to tell people to
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read the room and then if theyread it wrong have all you know
sometimes it's that internaltalk track that you are Welcome
in that room.
You've been invited into thatroom.
So act like you are right.
But there are times when maybethere's some, you know, you
already know, kind of, you'regoing to be navigating spaces
that are a little bit moreuncomfortable that your power
maybe isn't appreciated.
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And then you can choose.
Which parts of your authenticityyou want to show, but I really
do feel like it's being, youknow, uh, strategic about it.
And I know that that's a hard,hard answer, but I think in
these days, we've known thatthere are unconscious biases
that show up.
So we really have to understandwho are we talking to, what is
the situation and how are wegoing to show up and meet that?
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (26:47):
Well, I'm glad that we're talking
about this because authenticityis just always the buzzword,
right?
About show up authentically, andI get that, but also I'm an ex
chief human resource officer, solike, please don't, you know?
And, and I say that, like, witha little bit of joke and a
little bit of love, but it'slike, you know, you said, you,
you don't want to bring yourfull authentic self everywhere,
(27:08):
and you're right.
I don't need people seeing how Iam at home in the workplace
sometimes.
That's just not what we're gonnado.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (27:16):
Well, and it doesn't mean you're not
authentic, right?
And it, it's like, I know who Iam.
I know what I represent.
And when you feel that inside,you are authentic.
I come to every situation aswhole as I can be.
But if you're a smartcommunicator navigating certain
spaces, I'm also in tune to whatis the purpose of this meeting?
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What is the purpose of thisexchange?
If I'm hanging out with myfriends, you probably shouldn't
have any.
Guard up.
I mean, that's the whole point.
Why your friends, but if you'rein a workplace trying to achieve
a common goal or work towardssomething or express yourself,
you want to say like, how am Ishowing up fully in my full self
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in a way that serves thissituation?
And so I can save the otherpieces for me later, but it
doesn't mean i'm beinginauthentic It just means i'm
not bringing that to the tableright now.
It's not part of theconversation It's not part of
the situation and it's notnecessary But it is it is a fine
line I don't want to tell peopleyou know It is hard because even
when people bring their fullselves to the table for a
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specific event and are beingdiscerning, there can be
unconscious biases and otherpeople that still affect it and
that is out of your control,which is really hard.
And so you do your best to becentered in who you are, be as
authentic as possible and bringyour full self to the situation
that serves that moment.
And then the rest is part ofthat discernment where You know,
you can't control how otherpeople react to you.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (28:44):
You cannot.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (28:45):
Nope.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (28:46):
Oh my gosh, Angela, I'm going to take
us on a left turn because youbroke so many barriers being the
power of the only, right?
Being the first Asian Americanwoman and in many ways, what's
sticky floors, right?
Any limiting beliefs or toxicbehaviors did you encounter
personally, like in yourjourney, which one kind of
resonates with you or stands outand then what did you do to
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overcome that?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (29:09):
Yes.
Well, it's interesting.
It's an evolution and I want tosee people as seeing themselves
as layers, right?
Who I am as that young, shyAsian girl that got a little
bullied when I was younger witha little bowl cut is different
than I was that overachievinghigh schooler that was like
class president, but I stilldidn't have it all together.
That was all image.
That was all like packing it on.
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Like, oh, I'm this, I'm that.
I'm going to get into college.
I.
Even when I made it to the topof my career at 27 years old, I
made it.
I became a reporter and anchorin Los Angeles.
I still had to peel back thelayers.
So I remember I had a, um, um,voice coach and I wanted to go
to that next level.
I had made it to the top market,but in order to be at the top
market, you really have tothink, Oh, how can I get, you
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know, I'm still only 27 yearsold.
I have so much to learn in awhole career ahead of me.
And I remember I was doing voicelessons and the coach said to
me, he's like, does being awoman.
And an Asian woman holds youback and I looked at him.
I'm like, excuse me.
What do you mean?
Like I'm a TV reporter in LosAngeles.
I've made it What do you meanhold me back and I'd never
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really dealt with race I alwaysjust pushed forward even though
I'm sure it was you know itcolored all of my being, but I
just move forward as much as Icould for myself.
And I looked at him and he'sall, does being an Asian woman
affect your voice?
And then I looked at him and Iwas like, what is he talking
about?
And what he was talking aboutwas those inner voices.
(30:36):
And as I started to dive deeperinto my career, when I was
younger, I blocked everythingout and I just pushed and I
worked hard and I got to thetop.
And then as you go through yourcareer, you're like.
Ah, inner voices, how I wasraised.
I was raised to not rock theboat.
Anytime I would stand out, mymom would scold me.
It's like, don't do that.
Don't say that.
(30:56):
And I fought through all of thatbecause I became a, you know, I
went on television.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (31:00):
I was gonna say, then you became a
news reporter.
It kind of went completelyopposite.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_100 (31:05):
So I broke through all that.
But did I?
Right.
Did I own my space?
Did I?
And so when he was talking aboutfor voice coaching, it was like,
you're talking too fast, Angela,do you own your space?
Why do you have to rush?
I go, I'm not rushing.
And because you don't own yourfull power.
That was like, even though Iowned my voice.
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I didn't fully own my voice.
I was a rookie reporter.
And so by embodying who I was,and I was like, Oh, I do have
that voice still.
Oh, I'm not as good as I thoughtI was, but now I know that it
comes up.
And so it was just somethingthat he wanted me to look at so
that I was more centered, youknow, and I'm a fast talker
normally, you know, and I loveit.
(31:47):
Like me and you converse, butyou know, when you're owning
your space and that's anotherthing you can do.
Do you pause?
Are you okay with silence?
Do you own that room?
Right?
It's so powerful to pause and tobe okay with that space, but you
asked me how I overcame it Sothat's a little side detour But
basically what I was saying is Ihad those voices even when I
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reached the pinnacle of mycareer And then when I became a
new mom and I left my career Italk about this in the book, too
I had to shift my externalstatus For internal status,
because I no longer had thetitle.
I was no longer on TV and thiswill happen to you many times in
your career.
When you do a career change, whoam I?
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What am I?
Especially if you're sosuccessful and everything you
did was your identity may havebeen wrapped around your career.
And I had to create a whole newidentity as a new mom, a whole
new identity.
But that doesn't mean I lost allof that, you know, all those
years I worked and everything Iachieved, but I had to create a
new identity.
But in those down moments, allthose voices came back way
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louder.
And I was like, that's why Itell people to make that list.
Cause I was like, I knownothing.
I'm starting my own business.
I, you know, and I had beenspeaking already and emceeing
events and I'm like, who, who amI?
What am I?
And that's where you amplifiedcame and now moving into as a
mom of teenagers and moving intothat next phase There's always
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layers, right?
So i've overcome I can say thatI do own my power.
I do own my voice You know, Iown my opportunities.
I've But as I was writing thisbook, I had said to myself, I
cannot finish this book becauseI am going through the middle of
the thriving part.
And I'm still am right.
It's layers.
And so it was interesting.
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That's why I think I took fouryears of research.
I'm like, I'm not ready tofinish this book because I'm
still going through it.
And the interesting thing is Ifinished the book.
It's filled with things.
I'm still going to be goingthrough it.
You know, I'm almost going tohave to open each chapter for
myself, but I can say for themost part, I do own my voice.
I do own my power, but that'ssurviving to thriving.
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All of us are going to have tocontinue to unwire that that
part in us, because if we aresuccessful, we did reach the
top.
We create a set of skills thatallowed us to be that.
Right?
And so now it's about, oh, thatgot me here.
But in order for me to continueto thrive without burning out,
some of those skill sets Ilearned aren't as good for me.
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So what do I want now?
And that's where creating thenew vision and rewiring
ourselves matters.
And to do that every severalyears because we change in our
life stages.
So, yeah.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (34:22):
fan of that.
Yes.
I always tell people also newlevel, new devil, right?
Like every new phase of life.
And then with you, your kids aregoing to be out of the house and
in college, and it's going to beyou and your partner.
Then what?
Right?
Like, what does that life phaselook like for you?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (34:37):
But I want people, oh go on, yes.
But I want people to beoptimistic about it.
I don't see it as like, oh mygosh, I conquered that and now I
have to deal with it again.
It's more like, what's next?
And if you're comfortablestaying at the level you are,
that's okay.
But you'll know when you're,it's tugging at you and you're
like, um, there's more, I'mmoving.
And you don't have to do thisAll the time, right?
(34:57):
Maybe you reached the pinnacleand you're like, I'm good, but
you'll know when you're like,um, this isn't working for me
right now.
And it just means there needs tobe a recalibration of our vision
of our values and what our Northstar is, right?
My North star in the day was tobe like Connie Chung and get
that job in LA.
I didn't care about anythingelse.
I didn't care about myboyfriend.
I didn't care about where Ilived.
I was like, this is what I'mdoing.
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And then I got there.
And it was like, oh, what doesthe next phase of my life look
like?
And even now, you know with withthe book launch and my kids I
just want to appreciate thistime because my son's going to
college soon.
We're starting the collegeprocess What can I still achieve
in my personal life withoutshutting it down and waiting
till they're all out of thehouse?
But also still savor that momentthat i'm in I don't want to wish
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it away
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (35:41):
No, because then they're just going
to be old and like, oh my gosh,I think
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (35:46):
It's hard though.
It's really hard for any workingwoman.
Yeah.
Any working woman now knows thatit's like push, pull, push,
pull, and you shouldn't have togive up everything you've worked
for and your own ambitions, butyou also need to honor what life
stage you're at.
because you know, those littlemoments are very, very
important.
It's something I struggle withevery day, but I'm trying, like
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I just told you on, you know, onMonday I spent the whole day
volunteering for this wonderfulthing called challenge days.
It was like personal developmentfor teenagers where they were in
group discussions and I wantedto be like kind of a supportive
group volunteer for that.
And then it was college prep.
And then now I'm, you know, thisweek I'm more focused on work,
but you know, I wanted to dothat because that's the life
stage I'm in.
erica_1_01-29-2025_13092 (36:27):
That's where we're at.
Oh my gosh.
Angela, if you could go back intime to the little girl who's
wishing she was going to beConnie Chung when she grew up,
what piece of advice would yougive her today?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1009 (36:40):
I would give her a big hug and,
and just let her know that allis good and you are seen just
the way you are and it's allokay.
I mean, that's kind of a littlebit of an inner child exercise,
but I actually go visit heroften because I think where most
of us get stuck is.
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All starts from our childhood.
It really does.
As you do more deeper work,leadership work, personal
development work, you're like,what?
From that?
You know, and as even, you know,I'm Midlife woman career.
I've accomplished all my goals,but we still have to go back to
that little girl and just givethem a big hug.
And it's like, it all works out.
You are good just the way youare.
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And I think for a lot of us, notjust little girl, you are
enough, just the way you are.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (37:29):
Oh, that's beautiful.
I know my mother always used tosay it'll always be okay in the
end and if it's not okay, it'snot the end.
And
angela-chee_1_01-29-20 (37:36):
Amazing.
I love
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (37:37):
love that.
Oh my gosh.
Well, Angela, we're going to beable to buy your book on Amazon,
Barnes Noble, all the placeswhere books are sold.
If somebody wants to work withyou, bring you into the
organization, learn more aboutyou, where can they find you?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (37:50):
Yes, I'm at AngelaChi.
com.
The book is atthepoweroftheonly.
com and you can always find meonline at AngelaChiTV on all of
social media.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130 (38:01):
Amazing.
All of that will be linked inthe show notes, but Angela,
thank you so much for thisamazing conversation on the
power of the only, I mean, therewere so many gems in here.
I know my brain was kind of pingpong and all over the place with
all of the just amazing thingsyou shared with us today.
So thank you.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (38:16):
Thank you.
I appreciate you so much and I'mso honored to be part of your
conversation with yourcommunity.
MacBook Pro Microphone-1 (38:23):
Oh my gosh, if you don't feel fired up
now, I don't know what to tellyou, but Angela just dropped
some serious wisdom on how toown your space, navigate tough
environments, and redefine poweron your own terms.
Now, if you're ready to stepinto your power and break
through any limiting beliefsholding you back, Make sure that
(38:44):
you check out her book, ThePower of the Only, dropping this
week, March 4th, 2025.
And if you want to learn more,check her out at her website and
follow her on social media.
I'll drop all those links in theshow notes so that you have them
handy.
And if this resonated with you,please take a screenshot, tag
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Make sure you also head over andcheck out Her Collective, the
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and level up.
I'll see you next time.
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erica_1_01-29-2025_13092 (01:34):
Today, I am thrilled to welcome Angela
Chi, a powerhouse in media andcommunication, to the podcast.
Now, Angela is a media andcommunication coach.
She is award winning former TVanchor and a keynote speaker.
She is also the creator of YouAmplified, which is a
transformative leadershipnetwork and host of the Power of
(01:55):
the Only podcast.
Angela has decades of experiencein media, hosting shows for
major networks like E!Entertainment, HGTV, and even
launching Entertainment TonightChina.
But beyond her accolades,Angela's mission is clear, to
empower people to own theirstory and lead with
(02:15):
authenticity.
And she has a book coming out inMarch of 2025 called The Power
of the Only.
So Angela, welcome to the GlassCeiling and Sticky Floor
Podcast.
It's so great to have you here.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (02:27):
Oh, thank you so much, Erica.
We've been waiting for this.
I love
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (02:30):
have been waiting.
And so Angela, for all myfriends who don't know you as
well as I do, give me a littlebackground personally,
professionally, like who isAngela?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (02:40):
Yeah, well, right now I'm a crazy
person in book launch with twoteenagers juggling all that.
But yes, I am a former TV newsanchor and reporter, had a long
journalism career.
You know, imagine this.
Ever since I was little, Iwanted to be like Connie Chung.
So that's kind of how it allstarted.
Imagine, you know, um, an Asianimmigrant child growing up in
the suburbs of Los Angeles and Ifeel like I saw her on TV and I
(03:04):
was like, something, you know,awoken in me.
And my dad's like, Hey, youcould be like Connie Chung.
And I was like, What really meand I think that planted a seed
and I kind of became that extraoverachiever high schooler You
know that had that set path, butI didn't go into news right away
I kind of took a detour intoentertainment.
So that's like stage one of mycareer, right?
(03:24):
And then after I had my firstchild, um, I had reached the
pinnacle of Los Angeles.
I was a news anchor in San Diegoas well.
And I just kind of took a stepback and I was like, what do I
really want to create?
And I had been working nonstopwaking up at 2 a.
m.
and 3 a.
m.
all morning.
And I took a step back and Ikind of became, you know, uh,
like step into this motherhoodthing.
(03:45):
And I raised two kids, but allthroughout that I stepped into,
people started asking me, how doI get on TV?
How do I do this?
And I really had to sit down andgo.
You know, what do I want my lifeto be?
What is that next phase?
So I thought I was just going tohost shows, take care of the
kids, still do some speaking.
And I really sat down withmyself and that's when You
Amplified happened, which is whoare you?
What do you stand for?
(04:06):
And how do you want to show upin the world?
And so my work for the lastdecade has really been about
helping leaders, entrepreneurs,uh, as well as corporate leaders
really step into who they are,but through communication.
So I'm a communication coach.
I'm like your life coach meetscommunication coach.
And now for this next phase, I'mlaunching the new book.
My kids are teenagers now.
(04:26):
And so it's always been ajuggle, right?
Your audience, I know they'realways juggling and there's so
many chapters to our life.
So it's hard to summarize all inone piece.
But yes, that's how Itransitioned from a wannabe
reporter to a TV news anchor andnow to a keynote speaker and a
communication coach.
And my goal is to really justawaken that gift in each
individual, because we allstruggle with the similar
(04:47):
things, but going through thatjourney and peeling back those
layers to get to that youamplified core is really what
I'm here to help people do.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (04:56):
Oh, I love just the whole roadmap of
that,
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (04:59):
Yeah, it's a lot.
I'm sorry.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (05:01):
of people, yeah, would say you got
it.
You made it, you're on news.
Like that's it.
But you're like, no, no, no,that's not it for me.
Like, there's so much more Iwant to do in this world.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (05:11):
Yeah.
And for.
And for news it was the pinnacleand you know news has shifted
and I love and believe injournalism so much I left the
industry because my life wasshifting the chapters of my life
were shifting in the station Ifthey hadn't gone through certain
shifts, I might have stayed alittle longer But you know
circumstances happen just likeyou may love your career But
maybe the the job situation mayshift and so for those of you
(05:33):
out there maybe in transitionJust know that you know, it
could be the same chapter in adifferent You know company or it
could be a whole new chapter andthat's what's exciting But yeah,
it was you know, i'd reachedthat pinnacle, but it wasn't the
end.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (05:48):
And in your book, The Power of the
Only, right, you talk about theexperience of being the only.
So kind of detail, what do youmean by that?
How were you the only, and thenhow did that shape your life?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (06:02):
Yes And uh, you know growing up as
an asian immigrant child I wasalways the only one in the
neighborhood and it didn'treally bother me You know, I
grew up in los angeles prettydiverse But in my neighborhood
where I was I was the only asiangirl growing up And I struggled
with that a little bit until myteen years and then you know,
obviously in competitiveindustries like entertainment
and uh news I was always Alwaysmostly the only woman and
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sometimes the only Asian womanand as a keynote speaker as you
know many times You know, you'rethe only woman in the room and
I'm sure your audience andlisteners know that you know
You're in room sometimes whereyou're the only one and
sometimes it can be superpowerful, but it's definitely
hard and so what happened for meis that I look through the this
String of my life and all thesestories I was at a mastermind
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conference about six seven yearsago and someone asked me and my
story and I was saying well Iwas the only one in this and the
only one in that and she's likeme too The only one and we
looked at each other and I said,but there's power in being the
only and it was like wow Youknow There was something in me
that like kind of erupted and Iknow certain people can find
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power in it but Because it's sohard navigating certain spaces a
lot of times like the women thatI talk to They don't see the
power in it Like I come up Ispeak and i'll have young girl
young women come up to me andthey go I have imposter syndrome
or I have this how did you dothat?
And I want people to see thatit's not that it's easy and just
be confident and you'll overcomeit It's really that there is
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power right?
That being the only is not aweakness.
It's your greatest strength.
And I spent the last four orfive years interviewing CEOs,
filmmakers, you know, authors,entrepreneurs to really get to
the core.
Why do some people feel thepower of the only And some don't
and then I backed it withresearch So that's really what
the is about is I felt the powerof the only and I did certain
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things to navigate spaces So,how can we own our voices and
thrive in any environment,right?
We don't have to wait for theworld to change to step into our
greatness So that is my gift tothe world is all that research
and my personal belief Backedwith a whole bunch of other
stories to really move thatforward
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (08:07):
I love that.
What were some of the reasonswhy some people do not lean into
the power of the only?
And it.
I guess, is it fear?
I mean, you tell me.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (08:18):
Yeah, well, I broke it down into five
principles and the principlesare pretty vague and they sound
familiar, but it starts withowning your opportunity and
owning your opportunity isn'tjust taking what's available to
you in front of you, not justbreaking through that fear, but
also when someone says it's notpossible.
Right?
We don't do that.
That hasn't been done before.
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You know, all the people I spoketo that stepped into their only,
they owned their opportunity,even when they said that it
wasn't possible.
I've been told no so many timesand figured out a way to
navigate around it.
So that's not easy.
Owning your power, knowing thatyou already have it.
It's not your title.
It's not a certain thing.
It's a mindset shift.
Right of knowing that you havethat power But in our society
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women are often told we don'thave that power and we often see
it, too We may be confident butthere's this subconscious thing
that we feel because it lives insociety own your voice Owning
your voice isn't just speakingup.
It's knowing that what you saymatters Right, and I know you
deal with this and talk aboutthis often those inner voices
It's not just the voice that weuse externally But the voice
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that we use internally to talkto ourselves and those that
truly step into their power Knowwhen those voices come up
doesn't mean that we don't havethem But they're able to
overcome it and I have someresearch and exercises in the
book to do that And mostimportantly owning your
communication And that's wheremy communication skills come in.
Owning your communication.
I believe that with AI, with allthe changes, technology, the
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most important thing still ishow do you communicate and
connect with others.
So that is super important.
And owning your future.
Owning your future.
You can't own your future ifyou're in this survival mode and
not thriving.
Right.
So for most of us as women, ifwe're overachievers, if we're
successful, we've been pushing,pushing, pushing.
And my whole thing is what gotme to where I was was great.
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I reached the top, but it's notwhat's going to allow me to
thrive into the future with twoteenagers and a full life ahead
of me.
And so we have to move into anew mode of thriving rather than
survival.
And I talked to so many leadersabout burnout and how the tools
that they have so that we cancontinue to thrive in any
environment.
So I know that's a lot, butthat's kind of how, um, together
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we can focus on each of theseareas and really see where do we
get stuck and then have thetools and the strategies to
navigate around them.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130 (10:41):
Alright, so the five principles are
owning your opportunities,owning your power, own your
voice, own your communication,and own your future.
And I want to dig in on this ownyour power because I believe
that, but I also know that somany people struggle and they
feel as if they're in situationswhere they don't have control.
Right?
And they don't feel like theyhave any power of the situation.
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What would you say to thatperson?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (11:05):
Yes.
You know, this is where in, um,I talk about discernment a
little bit.
Now, you can own your powerinternally, but you're still
going to run into, right, we, wedeal with corporations, titles,
you know, hierarchies, there arecertain cultures that just don't
fit.
And so we can do all that wecan, but it's also recognizing
sometimes the system doesn'twork with us.
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I think in the past there was alot put on women where it was
like, well, if you just do this,then you can own your power.
And it's not as simple as that.
And so that's why in the book Itell stories of not only.
What is on your power?
But why don't we own our power?
Right?
But knowing why we don't own ourpower gives us a little more
leverage.
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And the discernment comes in issometimes you can't, right?
It's like knowing when to, whenis it in your head?
And when is it a reality, right?
And when it's a reality,sometimes there comes a point
where you have to havediscernment.
What do I let in?
What do I let out?
What do I push for?
What do I sit out on?
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Doesn't mean you're weak.
Doesn't mean you don't havepower.
And so I think part of owningyour power is knowing that you
have the power to decide whenyou choose to use your power, to
push against it, or when to sitback or to navigate around it,
Or to create something else.
And so I think That is powerful.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (12:30):
I love that and I think what I
also really love about that andI preach a lot about is people
will say I don't have power overthe situation or I don't have
any control over that and it's,it's, it's like, yes, but.
You always have choice, right?
To stay or to go, right?
You have the power to, if you'rein a toxic like environment at
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work, like you don't have towork there.
You can leave and find anotherjob.
I'm not saying quit your job andgo run away and be
irresponsible.
If you're the breadwinner, yougot a family to take care of,
but you have the choice to say,okay, I'm not going to tolerate
it.
I'm going to start laying thegroundwork for what's next.
Right.
And I think the big thing that Ijust.
want to really express is likesometimes these powerful choices
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take a long time to come tofruition.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (13:19):
and that's why I talk about thrive
in any environment and I'm veryspecific this book.
I was very careful It is aleadership empowerment, you
know, go girl book and you know,it's not just for women But I
also didn't want to dismissactual things.
So you talked about you knowpeople I write about this in the
book.
There's a lot of people who sayburn all the bridges, you know
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So what it's not working go dothis and we have to recognize
that's not the same reality foreveryone Like you said some
people are locked into they havecertain things They need to meet
and then that's where thediscernment comes in and that's
where your power comes in Youget to decide what you need to
do and sometimes you need tounderstand That person may be
able to say you know what burnall the bridges.
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I'm out of here.
I'm doing that And also to honorthat sometimes people move at
different paces for whatevercircumstances are in your life.
And so I have a lot of exercisesfor people to take a look at
their holistic life and get tochoose what do I want to do and
what do I not want to do?
But by looking at your story,not comparing yourself to
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somebody else, it's like, Oh,well, if I want to have power,
then I need to do this.
And it's more about.
Ah, I understand why I I Ipersonally feel like I don't
have power or in this situationHere's why I feel like I don't
have power now.
How do I navigate?
For my individual needs.
How do I navigate for thissituation?
How do I navigate for thiscompany?
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And that may change or navigatefor the stage of your life,
right?
You may live your life one wayin the early part of your career
and at the latter part of yourcareer, you know what I've
changed and that's why I alsotake a deep dive into creating
your new vision and that visionsometimes, you know, I do this
for myself every four or fiveyears because we change as
people and what we value and howwe want to see our lives.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (15:08):
Ooh, create your new vision.
I like that.
I want to go back though.
Do you have, you said you have alot of exercises where people
can really work through thediscernment.
Can you share one of those withus?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (15:20):
Yes.
Um, well, you know, one of theways you talked about fear,
right?
You talked about why, why peopledon't do certain things.
You know, I find it'sinteresting is, um, not really
so much an exercise or we can gothrough the book, but like with
fear, you know, there's a studycalled The Spotlight, spotlight
Effect.
I'm not sure if you're aware ofthat, that we think people, you
know, noted us more than we do.
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So they people think you know,at least there was this
experiment where people werewearing t shirts, right?
And it's like oh if I wear thiscertain t shirt super, you know
with the title on it 50 percentof people will notice Well, it
turns out that 25 percent orless even know what's going on
or remember what you're doingAnd so that kind of takes the
edge off And so what theexercises do is allows us to see
that there's some researcharound Oh, you know, people
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aren't paying attention to me asmuch as I think they are.
But an exercise, you can thinkabout it.
So for my on camera coachingclients or even my communication
clients, they go, I have a fearof this or I have a fear of
that.
And to think about, well, it'snot actually fear.
It's like shifting from fear toenergy.
When you're doing something bigor about to do something, you
feel uncomfortable, right?
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There's those sensations.
People call it the pit in mystomach or, you know, my palms
get all sweaty, but it's yourEnergy activating, right?
So instead of seeing it as fearcoming towards you, it's that
your body is revving up and forto do something big and to be
proud of that and to use thatenergy for you.
An exercise that I do also forpeople who are not feeling in
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their power is we have atendency to forget how much
we've accomplished or who weare.
Especially if we're in a downpoint and you just asked me to
summarize my whole life in likea minute and for anyone that's
feeling in a down point, you'regoing to forget all those things
prior because maybe there'ssomething happening.
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So a tool that I like to havepeople do is to really just sit
down and write down all thethings that you are proud of.
You appreciate about yourself.
It could be an accomplishment.
It could be a trait.
It could be something that youtackled this week.
And I think it's reallyimportant to honor who we are
and to remember because ourbrain likes to forget the good
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things and remember the badthings.
And there's actually researchbehind that as well.
So this is kind of flipping yourcognitive brain and reminding
ourselves of all the good in ourlives.
And it doesn't have to just beaccomplishments, but it could be
traits or things that allow usto generate more positive energy
for us to go, Oh yeah, that didhappen, right?
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How many times has that happenedto you?
You're like, wait, I did dothat.
Wait, I did that too.
Wait, I already, you know, Ialready accomplished that.
Why am I so upset about this?
And so we need reminders.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (17:57):
Well, and I also think, too, as women,
we tend to brush those off.
You know, people will tell me,like, Oh my gosh, that was so
amazing, I can't believe you didthat.
And I'm like, oh, it's no bigdeal.
Move on to the next thing.
And so for me, I struggle to sitin that celebration and really
own it sometimes.
Gosh, so I would add a numbersix, own your wins.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (18:17):
Well, that, you know, you're going to
laugh.
That's one of the chapters,celebrate your wins is part of a
thriving, right?
So in order for us to move intoa thriving mindset, there's
actually research aroundcelebration to celebration
allows it to move from when youhave a recognition of something
and you pause and you focus andyou savor that moment, it
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actually moves it from yourshort term brain to your
longterm brain.
So when we brush things off,you're actually like ignoring it
when you actually take a momentto say thank you and to savor
and then to think about why do Icelebrate this or even mark it
for yourself.
Those little moments are thethings that train your brain in
the long term to move it intothat memory so you don't forget
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it, but it also increases allthose activations of endorphins
and dopamine, serotonin, allthose feel good chemicals.
And when you feel good, whathappens?
You're more productive.
You.
End up doing more and be able tobreak down those voices that
come up And so it's all thisbiochemical stuff that's coming
to you know, all those things belike celebrate your wins There's
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actually purpose behind it
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (19:22):
Oh my gosh.
Well, I'm a big evidence andscience fact girl, so I love
that you share that.
Because so many people want toskip the fluff.
All the time.
They want to skip the fluff.
And I'm guilty of that too.
I could not tell you, Angela, Itook me years to sit down and
just do my own values exercise
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (19:39):
Oh, yeah, it seems so simple, right?
It's too simple.
It's like, okay, great.
What is writing them down goingto do?
erica_1_01-29-2025_13092 (19:44):
right.
But now I know it, it reallydoes act as my moral compass if
I'm stuck with a decision and myvalues are courage, growth and
health and wellness.
So am I doing the thing acourageous person would do?
Am I doing something that agrowth minded individual would
do?
Is this what a healthy personwould do?
And it varies, It's very blackand white when you put it like
that.
And it helps me keep mydecisions and stay true to
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myself.
But if you don't do the fluffwork, you're not going to get
there.
So
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_100 (20:13):
is that in the last, you know, I
mean this research has beengoing on for ages people just
didn't recognize it It becamelike you said fluff or woo woo
and what happens is what'sinteresting is now that there's
neuroscience has become a studyNeuroscience wasn't even really
a study right before peopleweren't looking at the brain and
how does that affectperformance?
And so what I wanted to do withthis book is yes, I'm like, you
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know, I'm that spiritual go gethim girl Do all those things but
I'm also a journalist and so Ibacked it with stories Evidence
as well as studies because I waslike I celebrate my wins.
But what does that mean for mybrain?
How does that make us better?
and so it's important for us toground it in that especially for
people who are more intotangible evidence, but So more
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and more, there's so muchresearch out on all those things
that we've been taught that weresound kind of good, but you're
like, eh, that doesn't apply tome.
I don't need to do it.
You're literally training yourbrain to be aware of certain
things.
It's the subconsciousprogramming that's so important,
right?
By lining your values, and Ihave my speaking clients do that
too.
Before I have them walk into aroom, I'll give you another
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exercise.
I have them pick four adjectivesof how they want to show up in
their energy.
Because your energy walks inbefore you do right and people
may say oh energy, whatever.
I'm just I memorized my slidesI'm going to walk in I'm gonna
say what I'm going to say as youknow as a speaker as Any type of
and I don't want to callperformer because when you're
speaking you're talking yourtruth from the heart but any
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type of person that isPresenting energy or information
needs to get ready and one ofthe ways to get ready is to
think about how do I want to?
feel And how do I want otherpeople to feel?
And I write down four adjectivesand I almost channel it and
embody those emotions so thatwhen I show up on that stage,
I'm not thinking about, do Iwant to be inspirational,
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centered, energetic.
know, informative.
I just know for this audience,that's how I want to serve them
by writing them down.
It's almost like programming thecomputer and then you let your
body and your energy and yourtrue core take over.
But you're you're programmingyourself.
Yes.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (22:19):
you know what I think is really
powerful about that is Iremember very early in my
speaking career, and this kindof circles back to that
spotlight effect that you weretalking about.
I would be going into it.
Like I want to be seen as this.
I want them to think I am.
You know competent smart a goodspeaker and it's all about what
I want them to think of me Nothow do I want to show up and
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it's just this very subtle shiftBut I think that it is so
powerful because it takes numberone a little bit of the control
back, right?
I can't control how they view meor what they think but I can
control how I show up
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (22:57):
Yes.
And just by feeling it, right?
And how do I want them to feel?
You know, when I speak to agroup of high schoolers, very
different than I speak to, youknow, I do corporate trainings
with just women and I docorporate trainings with men and
women.
The energy shifts.
What I say, my expertise, thetopic I'm talking about, it does
not change.
That is who I am.
I'm not going to, you know,wibble, move back and forth for
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different audiences.
But I do shift my connection foreach audience because I'm
thinking about how can I servethem?
What are they thinking about?
What are they dealing with andwhat a high schooler's thinking
about is different than what amale ceo is thinking about and
so or a female ceo and so weneed to Think ahead as to how
can I serve them withoutchanging who we are?
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (23:44):
And to kind of go a little bit
deeper on that.
I know a lot of the women that Iwork with and speak with have
Attempted to be authentic,right?
But then that authenticitybecause of societal norms is, I
guess, made to be a negative.
So, for example, you're tooaggressive.
You're too much.
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You're too extra.
How does the woman who is beingtold all of those things
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (24:13):
yes,
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (24:14):
but in a, in an effective and
authentic way?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (24:17):
it's a hard balance right because
when they say, you know, I don'tnecessarily say be authentic I'm
like, I'm always like who areyou and how do you connect in
this situation?
And I think if you connect andare strategic about how you
connect in each situation youare being authentic So my goal
for people is to know who theyare.
First of all Right.
And taking those values, takingthe time to look at their
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values, who do they want toembody?
How do I want to be overall andhow do I want to be for the
situation?
And when you know who you areand you're aligned, it kind of
just sits within you, right?
If you do that work beforehand,it is part of who you are.
And then you need to think abouteach room.
How am I going to navigate thissituation in this room?
So I'm not asking people, youdon't need to be your full,
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authentic, full self every time.
That's not being inauthentic.
It's being a good communicator,right?
When you are a good communicatorand a good connector, how am I
serving this audience?
How am I serving my teammembers?
How am I serving this pitch?
How am I serving thisenvironment at this moment?
So I think sometimes people say,Oh, if you're not doing this,
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then you're not authentic.
I think being authentic is.
Just embodying who you are, butyou need to have discernment and
choose when am I going to letthat part show, right?
So it is hard because one of thereasons why people don't show up
fully is because sometimes somerooms aren't safe Right, they
are not Safe, they are not, youare not welcome.
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You can feel it.
You're not welcome.
And it just depends on thesituation Sometimes the feeling
of not being welcome is becauseyou've played into those own
stereotypes and it's internalSometimes it's real and it's
really hard.
It takes I think, you knowworking in corporate knowing how
to read a room properly So Idon't want to tell people to
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read the room and then if theyread it wrong have all you know
sometimes it's that internaltalk track that you are Welcome
in that room.
You've been invited into thatroom.
So act like you are right.
But there are times when maybethere's some, you know, you
already know, kind of, you'regoing to be navigating spaces
that are a little bit moreuncomfortable that your power
maybe isn't appreciated.
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And then you can choose.
Which parts of your authenticityyou want to show, but I really
do feel like it's being, youknow, uh, strategic about it.
And I know that that's a hard,hard answer, but I think in
these days, we've known thatthere are unconscious biases
that show up.
So we really have to understandwho are we talking to, what is
the situation and how are wegoing to show up and meet that?
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (26:47):
Well, I'm glad that we're talking
about this because authenticityis just always the buzzword,
right?
About show up authentically, andI get that, but also I'm an ex
chief human resource officer, solike, please don't, you know?
And, and I say that, like, witha little bit of joke and a
little bit of love, but it'slike, you know, you said, you,
you don't want to bring yourfull authentic self everywhere,
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and you're right.
I don't need people seeing how Iam at home in the workplace
sometimes.
That's just not what we're gonnado.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (27:16):
Well, and it doesn't mean you're not
authentic, right?
And it, it's like, I know who Iam.
I know what I represent.
And when you feel that inside,you are authentic.
I come to every situation aswhole as I can be.
But if you're a smartcommunicator navigating certain
spaces, I'm also in tune to whatis the purpose of this meeting?
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What is the purpose of thisexchange?
If I'm hanging out with myfriends, you probably shouldn't
have any.
Guard up.
I mean, that's the whole point.
Why your friends, but if you'rein a workplace trying to achieve
a common goal or work towardssomething or express yourself,
you want to say like, how am Ishowing up fully in my full self
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in a way that serves thissituation?
And so I can save the otherpieces for me later, but it
doesn't mean i'm beinginauthentic It just means i'm
not bringing that to the tableright now.
It's not part of theconversation It's not part of
the situation and it's notnecessary But it is it is a fine
line I don't want to tell peopleyou know It is hard because even
when people bring their fullselves to the table for a
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specific event and are beingdiscerning, there can be
unconscious biases and otherpeople that still affect it and
that is out of your control,which is really hard.
And so you do your best to becentered in who you are, be as
authentic as possible and bringyour full self to the situation
that serves that moment.
And then the rest is part ofthat discernment where You know,
you can't control how otherpeople react to you.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (28:44):
You cannot.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (28:45):
Nope.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (28:46):
Oh my gosh, Angela, I'm going to take
us on a left turn because youbroke so many barriers being the
power of the only, right?
Being the first Asian Americanwoman and in many ways, what's
sticky floors, right?
Any limiting beliefs or toxicbehaviors did you encounter
personally, like in yourjourney, which one kind of
resonates with you or stands outand then what did you do to
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overcome that?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (29:09):
Yes.
Well, it's interesting.
It's an evolution and I want tosee people as seeing themselves
as layers, right?
Who I am as that young, shyAsian girl that got a little
bullied when I was younger witha little bowl cut is different
than I was that overachievinghigh schooler that was like
class president, but I stilldidn't have it all together.
That was all image.
That was all like packing it on.
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Like, oh, I'm this, I'm that.
I'm going to get into college.
I.
Even when I made it to the topof my career at 27 years old, I
made it.
I became a reporter and anchorin Los Angeles.
I still had to peel back thelayers.
So I remember I had a, um, um,voice coach and I wanted to go
to that next level.
I had made it to the top market,but in order to be at the top
market, you really have tothink, Oh, how can I get, you
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know, I'm still only 27 yearsold.
I have so much to learn in awhole career ahead of me.
And I remember I was doing voicelessons and the coach said to
me, he's like, does being awoman.
And an Asian woman holds youback and I looked at him.
I'm like, excuse me.
What do you mean?
Like I'm a TV reporter in LosAngeles.
I've made it What do you meanhold me back and I'd never
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really dealt with race I alwaysjust pushed forward even though
I'm sure it was you know itcolored all of my being, but I
just move forward as much as Icould for myself.
And I looked at him and he'sall, does being an Asian woman
affect your voice?
And then I looked at him and Iwas like, what is he talking
about?
And what he was talking aboutwas those inner voices.
(30:36):
And as I started to dive deeperinto my career, when I was
younger, I blocked everythingout and I just pushed and I
worked hard and I got to thetop.
And then as you go through yourcareer, you're like.
Ah, inner voices, how I wasraised.
I was raised to not rock theboat.
Anytime I would stand out, mymom would scold me.
It's like, don't do that.
Don't say that.
(30:56):
And I fought through all of thatbecause I became a, you know, I
went on television.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (31:00):
I was gonna say, then you became a
news reporter.
It kind of went completelyopposite.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_100 (31:05):
So I broke through all that.
But did I?
Right.
Did I own my space?
Did I?
And so when he was talking aboutfor voice coaching, it was like,
you're talking too fast, Angela,do you own your space?
Why do you have to rush?
I go, I'm not rushing.
And because you don't own yourfull power.
That was like, even though Iowned my voice.
(31:26):
I didn't fully own my voice.
I was a rookie reporter.
And so by embodying who I was,and I was like, Oh, I do have
that voice still.
Oh, I'm not as good as I thoughtI was, but now I know that it
comes up.
And so it was just somethingthat he wanted me to look at so
that I was more centered, youknow, and I'm a fast talker
normally, you know, and I loveit.
(31:47):
Like me and you converse, butyou know, when you're owning
your space and that's anotherthing you can do.
Do you pause?
Are you okay with silence?
Do you own that room?
Right?
It's so powerful to pause and tobe okay with that space, but you
asked me how I overcame it Sothat's a little side detour But
basically what I was saying is Ihad those voices even when I
(32:08):
reached the pinnacle of mycareer And then when I became a
new mom and I left my career Italk about this in the book, too
I had to shift my externalstatus For internal status,
because I no longer had thetitle.
I was no longer on TV and thiswill happen to you many times in
your career.
When you do a career change, whoam I?
(32:28):
What am I?
Especially if you're sosuccessful and everything you
did was your identity may havebeen wrapped around your career.
And I had to create a whole newidentity as a new mom, a whole
new identity.
But that doesn't mean I lost allof that, you know, all those
years I worked and everything Iachieved, but I had to create a
new identity.
But in those down moments, allthose voices came back way
(32:50):
louder.
And I was like, that's why Itell people to make that list.
Cause I was like, I knownothing.
I'm starting my own business.
I, you know, and I had beenspeaking already and emceeing
events and I'm like, who, who amI?
What am I?
And that's where you amplifiedcame and now moving into as a
mom of teenagers and moving intothat next phase There's always
(33:11):
layers, right?
So i've overcome I can say thatI do own my power.
I do own my voice You know, Iown my opportunities.
I've But as I was writing thisbook, I had said to myself, I
cannot finish this book becauseI am going through the middle of
the thriving part.
And I'm still am right.
It's layers.
And so it was interesting.
(33:31):
That's why I think I took fouryears of research.
I'm like, I'm not ready tofinish this book because I'm
still going through it.
And the interesting thing is Ifinished the book.
It's filled with things.
I'm still going to be goingthrough it.
You know, I'm almost going tohave to open each chapter for
myself, but I can say for themost part, I do own my voice.
I do own my power, but that'ssurviving to thriving.
(33:51):
All of us are going to have tocontinue to unwire that that
part in us, because if we aresuccessful, we did reach the
top.
We create a set of skills thatallowed us to be that.
Right?
And so now it's about, oh, thatgot me here.
But in order for me to continueto thrive without burning out,
some of those skill sets Ilearned aren't as good for me.
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So what do I want now?
And that's where creating thenew vision and rewiring
ourselves matters.
And to do that every severalyears because we change in our
life stages.
So, yeah.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (34:22):
fan of that.
Yes.
I always tell people also newlevel, new devil, right?
Like every new phase of life.
And then with you, your kids aregoing to be out of the house and
in college, and it's going to beyou and your partner.
Then what?
Right?
Like, what does that life phaselook like for you?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_10 (34:37):
But I want people, oh go on, yes.
But I want people to beoptimistic about it.
I don't see it as like, oh mygosh, I conquered that and now I
have to deal with it again.
It's more like, what's next?
And if you're comfortablestaying at the level you are,
that's okay.
But you'll know when you're,it's tugging at you and you're
like, um, there's more, I'mmoving.
And you don't have to do thisAll the time, right?
(34:57):
Maybe you reached the pinnacleand you're like, I'm good, but
you'll know when you're like,um, this isn't working for me
right now.
And it just means there needs tobe a recalibration of our vision
of our values and what our Northstar is, right?
My North star in the day was tobe like Connie Chung and get
that job in LA.
I didn't care about anythingelse.
I didn't care about myboyfriend.
I didn't care about where Ilived.
I was like, this is what I'mdoing.
(35:17):
And then I got there.
And it was like, oh, what doesthe next phase of my life look
like?
And even now, you know with withthe book launch and my kids I
just want to appreciate thistime because my son's going to
college soon.
We're starting the collegeprocess What can I still achieve
in my personal life withoutshutting it down and waiting
till they're all out of thehouse?
But also still savor that momentthat i'm in I don't want to wish
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it away
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (35:41):
No, because then they're just going
to be old and like, oh my gosh,I think
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (35:46):
It's hard though.
It's really hard for any workingwoman.
Yeah.
Any working woman now knows thatit's like push, pull, push,
pull, and you shouldn't have togive up everything you've worked
for and your own ambitions, butyou also need to honor what life
stage you're at.
because you know, those littlemoments are very, very
important.
It's something I struggle withevery day, but I'm trying, like
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I just told you on, you know, onMonday I spent the whole day
volunteering for this wonderfulthing called challenge days.
It was like personal developmentfor teenagers where they were in
group discussions and I wantedto be like kind of a supportive
group volunteer for that.
And then it was college prep.
And then now I'm, you know, thisweek I'm more focused on work,
but you know, I wanted to dothat because that's the life
stage I'm in.
erica_1_01-29-2025_13092 (36:27):
That's where we're at.
Oh my gosh.
Angela, if you could go back intime to the little girl who's
wishing she was going to beConnie Chung when she grew up,
what piece of advice would yougive her today?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1009 (36:40):
I would give her a big hug and,
and just let her know that allis good and you are seen just
the way you are and it's allokay.
I mean, that's kind of a littlebit of an inner child exercise,
but I actually go visit heroften because I think where most
of us get stuck is.
(37:02):
All starts from our childhood.
It really does.
As you do more deeper work,leadership work, personal
development work, you're like,what?
From that?
You know, and as even, you know,I'm Midlife woman career.
I've accomplished all my goals,but we still have to go back to
that little girl and just givethem a big hug.
And it's like, it all works out.
You are good just the way youare.
(37:24):
And I think for a lot of us, notjust little girl, you are
enough, just the way you are.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (37:29):
Oh, that's beautiful.
I know my mother always used tosay it'll always be okay in the
end and if it's not okay, it'snot the end.
And
angela-chee_1_01-29-20 (37:36):
Amazing.
I love
erica_1_01-29-2025_130929 (37:37):
love that.
Oh my gosh.
Well, Angela, we're going to beable to buy your book on Amazon,
Barnes Noble, all the placeswhere books are sold.
If somebody wants to work withyou, bring you into the
organization, learn more aboutyou, where can they find you?
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_1 (37:50):
Yes, I'm at AngelaChi.
com.
The book is atthepoweroftheonly.
com and you can always find meonline at AngelaChiTV on all of
social media.
erica_1_01-29-2025_130 (38:01):
Amazing.
All of that will be linked inthe show notes, but Angela,
thank you so much for thisamazing conversation on the
power of the only, I mean, therewere so many gems in here.
I know my brain was kind of pingpong and all over the place with
all of the just amazing thingsyou shared with us today.
So thank you.
angela-chee_1_01-29-2025_ (38:16):
Thank you.
I appreciate you so much and I'mso honored to be part of your
conversation with yourcommunity.
MacBook Pro Microphone-1 (38:23):
Oh my gosh, if you don't feel fired up
now, I don't know what to tellyou, but Angela just dropped
some serious wisdom on how toown your space, navigate tough
environments, and redefine poweron your own terms.
Now, if you're ready to stepinto your power and break
through any limiting beliefsholding you back, Make sure that
(38:44):
you check out her book, ThePower of the Only, dropping this
week, March 4th, 2025.
And if you want to learn more,check her out at her website and
follow her on social media.
I'll drop all those links in theshow notes so that you have them
handy.
And if this resonated with you,please take a screenshot, tag
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us, and share your biggesttakeaway on Instagram and
LinkedIn.
Make sure you also head over andcheck out Her Collective, the
online community for women whoare looking to grow, connect,
and level up.
I'll see you next time.
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