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April 30, 2025 36 mins

In this episode, Sasha Berson sits down with Lisa Zeiderman, managing partner at Miller Zeiderman LLP, a powerhouse family law firm in New York with over 50 employees and more than 20 attorneys.



What makes this firm special isn’t just its size. It’s how they got there. Lisa shares the behind-the-scenes systems, philosophies, and people that helped her build one of the most successful family law firms in the country, and why most law firm owners are doing it backward.


📰 About Lisa Zeiderman:

Lisa is not just a brilliant attorney, she’s a natural rainmaker, team builder, and visionary firm leader. Her success came from a rare blend of skill, instinct, and knowing exactly what to delegate. From her early career in fashion to managing a multimillion-dollar firm with her partner and her husband, Lloyd, Lisa’s story is a blueprint for law firm growth.


👉 Sasha and Lisa explore:

— The real reason most lawyers struggle with hiring and how Lisa learned to build a team.

— How her husband Lloyd became the firm’s “secret weapon”.

— Why rainmaking came easy to her, and how attorneys can learn to be more charismatic.

— The firm’s bold approach to unlimited vacation and work-life harmony.

— How mentoring programs helped them scale from 2 attorneys to over 20.


👉 Main Takeaways from the Episode:

— Hire proactively before you hit capacity, not reactively when you're drowning.

— Define your firm’s culture early, then reinforce it every single day through actions and expectations.

— Teach your attorneys how to rainmake by helping them become more engaging, well-rounded professionals.

— Build a happy, high-performing law firm by leading with purpose, loving the work, and aligning your team to a meaningful mission.


If you enjoyed today’s show, please leave a review and subscribe so you never miss an episode. For more information and links to all of the resources mentioned in today’s episode, visit https://growlaw.co/


📞 Connect with Lisa Zeiderman:

• Website: https://lisazeiderman.com/ 

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisazeiderman/ 

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisazeiderman/ 


📞 Connect with Sasha Berson:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grow-law/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grow_law/

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@growlaw

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/growlaw

• Email: info@growlawfirm.com

• Phone: (312

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